Been a few years since you made this video, but there still isn't much info out there putting these two amps head to head. So thanks! For me, as a blues/rock player looking for a little more headroom, I think I lean towards the non-HRM.
Late to the party, I admit, but thought I would add to the fun. I was in the same camp as J Riggs and finally opted for the HRM 50 since I wanted a little tighter bottom end, closer to a Marshall. However, I had a local tech install a 3-way toggle for: a) Full HRM; b) Half HRM or c) No HRM (a complete bypass of the little HRM tonestack board). Initially, I loved the half-bypass mode, but the last year or so I have found I most prefer a full bypass, i.e. straight OTS 50 tone. Go figure! I paired the head with a Forte 3D 1x12 w/ GWS ET65 and found "the tone" I had been seeking for years. Love this head!
Both sound great but the non has that creamy tone I prefer. A little too much bite to the HRM on this demo but still had that creamy tone underneath it all. I think I've found what I'm looking for. Sorry Mr. Fuchs.
Basic difference is that the HRM has a tone stack situated after the overdrive section. It's inside the chassis and uses trimpots i.e it is "set and forget". there's also a minor difference as to where the clean channel master volume control is situated in regard to the channel switching architecture.
I own a couple of these. I find that the HRM, while I hate to use the amp makers description but it's warranted here, is more "aggressive" and seems to have a more saturated sound at the higher gain levels. The non HRM "Skyline" tone stack, when play played clean to mildly overdriven (applies to having the gain set higher in this video), the Non HRM has more noticeable overdrive. I have the S&M (the non HRM played here but a little brighter) and the HRM Bluesmaster (which is a 6L6 driven amp. Anyway, this is one of the best gear demos on TH-cam, and done the way they should all do it by playing the same thing, same guitar, back to back. I don't know what goes through people's minds when they do a shootout between 2 different products, ESPECIALLY pickups, and they put them in different guitars, and sometimes through different amps, at the least the do it with the amp set to different settings. You can't really compare something like Burstbuckers with Lollar or Fralin PAFs if you have one set in a Les Paul running into a Marshall at the edge of breakup, and the other set in a PRS Custom 24 into the same amp at higher gain with an OD running. Plus this video, this guitar, at this level of gain is about as good as it gets for letting the amps shine for blues players. Its the video I bring up when I'm describing the tone to someone.
@@Ram-zw7qz they're completely different. The S&M is a traditional Skyline high-plate voltage ODS, but voiced much brighter. The BM is it's own thing all together. The other ODS', whether a classic or HRM will all have the same clean channel, it's the overdrive channels that are different. The HRMs require using the Preamp boost when using the overdrive channel to bypass the Skyline tone stack. If you try to use it without the boost, it won't have much gain and won't sound great because the two stacks aren't meant to be used at the same time. The clean channel has its own voicing. Personally I'd go with one of the other models. The BM can be difficult to get right; it's very dependent on the tube and speaker you use. The overdrive channel can get farty. That said, I find the S&M to be too bright. I would go with a regular HRM with the defeat switch. That way you can have the overdrive channel be either HRM or Skyline. Plus you can always put an EQ into the effects loop.
This is the first time I watched a Dumble amp video and was blown away with the tone. This one has a magical quality and would sound awesome with my Gibson M-III. My problem is I love the Soldano HR25 a lot too but only got so much cash for a dream amp!
Are we talking about the overdrive sound? Maybe not perfect. But I can think of few that would get really REALLY close. The EVH 5150 or the JHS AT spring immediately to mind. Or you could just buy the Ceriatone AND the Soldano and an A+B pedal. :D
Life is long. There are many amps. Many. Just slowly work your way through them over the years. That's what I'm doing. In ten years your dream amp will be something else.
Larry Carlton is legend! Jazz guitarist of the year a few years back. He is an older dude like me. Met him in the old days at Valley Arts Guitar in Studio City, California. A real gentleman & knocked out guitarist who can play many different styles. He is who you hear on a lot of the most popular recordings over the past 30 years.
I have a modified one for both. In general what I find is that when I play my Strat or 345 that's loaded with Lollar Imperial low winds, I prefer the HRM, Les Paul; non Hrm
The non-hrm seems to have more body and warmth and a smoother overdrive to my ears,both sound great but I prefer the non-Hrm models tone over the HRM. Thanks for the comparison Marin ! Great playing by the way. Mike
I got the HRM where Nik installed a switch to kill the HRM mod and make it non-HRM. I have to say I like them both, but the non-HRM sounds better to me. It just has that magic.
Nick Knirk I don't, but you should just exchange emails with Nik. He is very helpful. Regarding speaker choice, I got the G12-65 in the cab recommended on the Ceriatone site. Killer.
Great comparison, these really gives people the real-world ears-on low down. The non-HRM is by far the better for the clean-edge tone, the low-notes fart-out too much on the HRM and it doesn't have the subtle clarities that the non-HRM delivers. Shredders would likely pick the Hot Rodded Marshall (HRM), and the Carlton-guys go for the non-HRM.
Kinda sounded like the HRM was a bit more buttery and smooth. Is that your take on it? Personally, I'm looking for that butter tone ... so if you had to suggest, the non-HRM or the HRM model?? Thanks!! Cheers!!
I have a Ceriatone HRM. I play blues, rock classic...And with the hrm I really think you can get a good rock sound and screaming leads. It's a really good amp. I have the OD on say 9-10 o clock for bluesy/dumble tone and kick in a bb-preamp, rc booster among a couple of other pedals to beef up the sound. Those pedals don't color your sound to much either so I can retain that dumbley sound but with more gain.But you don't need pedals beacause the HRM has an extra knob on the back for extra gain.
Is that a Tokai?? I had a Greco years ago. Actually I had 2, one was the year before they started making exact gibson copies; it had a smaller body (somewhat in between the 335 and 339), and the strange slotted bridges that Ibanez used to use. I wish I still had it. I can't remember what the model was, but I know there weren't many. whenever I'd do a Google images search 3 out of 4 that came up were of mine, as in the one I played. I'm thinking of picking up another to modify into a stereo out with a bigsby. If that IS a a Tokai: what's the fretboard width like? Is it narrower than Gibsons? I didn't think it would be an issue, but last winter a customer brought his Epi Lucille, and it had a really narrow nut. I don't think that I could get used to it. It reminded me of my first electric:it was one of those cheap electric guitar packages where they give you a guitar, strap, small 15W solid state Peavey, cable and a Mel Bay guitar book. This was the late 80s, so it was a junk guitar. Kramer Starfighter! Had the Kramer headstock, but that was it. It wasn't a Kramer, the headstock didn't even tilt back. The nut was so narrow thar it felt like a broom stick. if it's like the older Les Paul width i would be good with it, but I thought I saw that they were like 1 5/8. I think the Edwards 335 has a 25 1/2" scale, and that would just be too different. Plus, while having solid maple top and side on its face sounds great, I think it would change the tone significantly. Whether to good or Ill I can't tell, I've never played them. I have a 339 and was able to A/B it against a 336 that came in with solid top and back, but those are much smaller so I can't extrapolate it. I LOVE semi hollows through the OTS.
marinblues I'm looking at picking another one up. I remember turning down A Tokai, but for the life of me, I can't remember why. It was a design thing, not a quality thing I remember that much. Does it have the narrow nut? if so, that might have been why. That wouldn't be an issue this time around. Sounds killer. Stock pickups? I really liked the Greco for playing louder or with higher gain. It had bound F-holes that I wasn't thrilled with when I first took it home, but it was a backup for a Gibson 345. The binding on the F-holes ended up fighting feedback really well. It want as lively as the Gibson, but it was a fair tradeoff IMO. The light OD in this clip is PERFECT, I had a couple of customers that are all gear heads watch it separately, all said those exact words, and all at the very same time on the video.
no, the nut isn't narrow. the neck is fairly wide, not like my goldtop 57, but on the wider side. I changed the pickups to seymour duncan's seth lovers
marinblues Ah ok well that's good to know. I spoke with another luthier who's customer was selling the one I looked at and he reminded me that it had a repaired headstock, which isn't a deal breaker to me in of itself, but he wanted too much $ for a guitar with a repaired headstock. Some of the lawsuit Les Pauls can get to a price where it doesn't make much sense to buy instead of a Gibson, but the Semi hollows are usually MUCH less than used Gibsons. I setup an Edwards for someone that I didn't like at all. The quality was great, but I didn't like the solid maple top and back as much as I thought I would it changed the tone too much. Plus I think it had a Fender 25.5" scale neck. The Seth Lovers are great, I've had them in a LP and SG years ago. once I found the Lollar low winds, I couldn't look back though.
I agree with BluesRocker52. I've been trying to get an idea of these amps thru TH-cam clips and virtually every one is in the same jazzy Larry Carlton style. CAN you use these amps for anything else?
I was torn....Nik....who I trust....advised the HRM....but for some reason I got the 50 watt non-HRM. Since I dont have a HRM here to compare at home side by side....I dont know what I'm missing if anything I can say this....I luv the one I have.
ermmm, i was loving the tone till you mentioned the axe fx bit.... how much of that very expensive peice of kit did you use? because im pretty sure you could have plugged an axe fx into a tv input and the tv woulda sounded amazing
Thanks again for your videos!! A request- could you perhaps do a side by side comparison video (like this one) featuring the clean channels of both? Or, if you've sold the OTS then just the HRM. Thanks again!!
If you had to choose one amp for a jazz/pop/rock fusion type of music, which would you choose. the OTS or HRM? By the way, outstanding playing!!! You free for some studio work?
Better??? Don`t know if that`s the word I would use. The HRM is Fat beyond belief. The non is a solid amp but I believe I will stick with the HRM. Basically, it`s like having a souped up Twin and a JCM 900 in one amp. Superb clean tone and headroom for ever and many variations of dirty, from nice smooth and mild to raunchy nasty. HRM, hands down in my opinion. Especially with a Mercury Output Transformer and a few other tweeks.
Great playing! Thanks for the demo...weird tho'...I've been listening to that Johnny Guitar Watson track for the last few weeks on TH-cam (I Want To Ta-Ta You Baby)..and then the first OTS demo I watch has it as a backing track...where did you get that from? Love that track..
Please , could you tell me where can I get the backing track name... great playing, great tone, you can really play ...beyond the amp... cheers from Argentina...
I absolutely LOVE this video, I can't count how many times I watch it. I wince with joy every time you hit that first lick. Question, if you don't mind: Do you feel like the HRM gives up anything to the OTS? In this video it seems to have a touch more bite, and less "smoothness" (less Fendery) but could easily be adjusted to be similar. Do you find that's the case? Just curious, and thanks again!
More harmonics with the HMR but still bright, I prefer the warmer tones without the HMR if you had a control that you could blend the two. Larry Carlton vibe, Lov the tones..
HRM is the better obviously. If you like the non HRM sound for some of the things you play get the mod or tweek the gain and eq...duuhh. anyway, I've heard them both and its a no brainer for anyone who wants that Dumble tone, not to mention the clean headroom of the OD HRM. It's like having a Twin on one side and Dumble on the other. Best amp ever made
Great demo. But that little burst of white noise every now and then is annoying. Still, awesome sounding amps, both. But like others I prefer the Non-HRM, though the HRM may be more versatile. I've got other amps for versatility.
Not really suited for Hard "Crunchy" Rock. Classic Rock maybe. They don't crunch and compress like a Marshall or a Mesa Boogie which are far better choices if you're gonna be playing a lot of Rock power chords. Great for fat fluid leads popular in Jazz Fusion. If you run a compressor it helps a little but still not the best. I know, I have a OTS HRM.
Very very close to the Ford tone. If it was Ford doing the playing it would be there. Certainly not that there's anything wrong at all with this fellow's playing.
I love the tones in this video ... this literaly started my dumble ODS obsession 12 years ago !
Been a few years since you made this video, but there still isn't much info out there putting these two amps head to head. So thanks! For me, as a blues/rock player looking for a little more headroom, I think I lean towards the non-HRM.
I've watched this a million times and I still can't decide what I want. First World problems
+furiouswanga Get the HRM with a defeat switch. You get both for about $20 extra.
What is a defeat switch?
Late to the party, I admit, but thought I would add to the fun. I was in the same camp as J Riggs and finally opted for the HRM 50 since I wanted a little tighter bottom end, closer to a Marshall. However, I had a local tech install a 3-way toggle for: a) Full HRM; b) Half HRM or c) No HRM (a complete bypass of the little HRM tonestack board). Initially, I loved the half-bypass mode, but the last year or so I have found I most prefer a full bypass, i.e. straight OTS 50 tone. Go figure! I paired the head with a Forte 3D 1x12 w/ GWS ET65 and found "the tone" I had been seeking for years. Love this head!
Did u get that installed by a 3rd party?
the hrm version with the boosts turned on sounded amazing
Man in both cases this is an AWESOME tone. Also due to an awesome player. Thank you very much for the demo.
Both sound great but the non has that creamy tone I prefer. A little too much bite to the HRM on this demo but still had that creamy tone underneath it all. I think I've found what I'm looking for. Sorry Mr. Fuchs.
Mr.Fucks?
@@cazziebb1707 Fuch's is a Fender clone builder, more expensive by 2 times than Ceriatone clones.
Basic difference is that the HRM has a tone stack situated after the overdrive section. It's inside the chassis and uses trimpots i.e it is "set and forget".
there's also a minor difference as to where the clean channel master volume control is situated in regard to the channel switching architecture.
Both are amazingly tasty..... I dig the brighter HRM sound..
Thanks for this video!
Man, great playing. Such finite control and both amps are delicious. Nice work
Cool comparison! Both sound awesome! I would pick the Non HRM version...
I own a couple of these. I find that the HRM, while I hate to use the amp makers description but it's warranted here, is more "aggressive" and seems to have a more saturated sound at the higher gain levels. The non HRM "Skyline" tone stack, when play played clean to mildly overdriven (applies to having the gain set higher in this video), the Non HRM has more noticeable overdrive.
I have the S&M (the non HRM played here but a little brighter) and the HRM Bluesmaster (which is a 6L6 driven amp. Anyway, this is one of the best gear demos on TH-cam, and done the way they should all do it by playing the same thing, same guitar, back to back. I don't know what goes through people's minds when they do a shootout between 2 different products, ESPECIALLY pickups, and they put them in different guitars, and sometimes through different amps, at the least the do it with the amp set to different settings. You can't really compare something like Burstbuckers with Lollar or Fralin PAFs if you have one set in a Les Paul running into a Marshall at the edge of breakup, and the other set in a PRS Custom 24 into the same amp at higher gain with an OD running. Plus this video, this guitar, at this level of gain is about as good as it gets for letting the amps shine for blues players. Its the video I bring up when I'm describing the tone to someone.
Thinking of getting the HRM BM. How does this compare to the S&M. Which do you prefer and why? Thanks
@@Ram-zw7qz they're completely different. The S&M is a traditional Skyline high-plate voltage ODS, but voiced much brighter. The BM is it's own thing all together. The other ODS', whether a classic or HRM will all have the same clean channel, it's the overdrive channels that are different. The HRMs require using the Preamp boost when using the overdrive channel to bypass the Skyline tone stack. If you try to use it without the boost, it won't have much gain and won't sound great because the two stacks aren't meant to be used at the same time. The clean channel has its own voicing.
Personally I'd go with one of the other models. The BM can be difficult to get right; it's very dependent on the tube and speaker you use. The overdrive channel can get farty. That said, I find the S&M to be too bright.
I would go with a regular HRM with the defeat switch. That way you can have the overdrive channel be either HRM or Skyline. Plus you can always put an EQ into the effects loop.
This is the first time I watched a Dumble amp video and was blown away with the tone. This one has a magical quality and would sound awesome with my Gibson M-III. My problem is I love the Soldano HR25 a lot too but only got so much cash for a dream amp!
I have an easy solution. Buy this amp and then buy a pedal that nails the Soldano high gain sound. WIN! :D
MeTuLHeD
There is no pedal that nails the Soldano ht25.
Are we talking about the overdrive sound? Maybe not perfect. But I can think of few that would get really REALLY close. The EVH 5150 or the JHS AT spring immediately to mind.
Or you could just buy the Ceriatone AND the Soldano and an A+B pedal. :D
MeTuLHeD
Thx, I'm looking at a solution for the tones I'm going after and will look at the set ups you are suggesting here :))
Life is long. There are many amps. Many. Just slowly work your way through them over the years. That's what I'm doing. In ten years your dream amp will be something else.
Larry Carlton is legend! Jazz guitarist of the year a few years back. He is an older dude like me. Met him in the old days at Valley Arts Guitar in Studio City, California. A real gentleman & knocked out guitarist who can play many different styles. He is who you hear on a lot of the most popular recordings over the past 30 years.
I have a modified one for both. In general what I find is that when I play my Strat or 345 that's loaded with Lollar Imperial low winds, I prefer the HRM, Les Paul; non Hrm
both sounded very good. it is as good as any other boutique amps out there.
The non-hrm seems to have more body and warmth and a smoother overdrive to my ears,both sound great but I prefer the non-Hrm models tone over the HRM. Thanks for the comparison Marin ! Great playing by the way. Mike
still the best tone ive heard, ever!!!!
Dang, these amps are THE BIZNUSS!
I got the HRM where Nik installed a switch to kill the HRM mod and make it non-HRM. I have to say I like them both, but the non-HRM sounds better to me. It just has that magic.
I have an HRM with a three way HRM defeat on the way. Any recommendations on speaker(s)? Thanks.
I have a Celestion G12-65 in a 1x12 Fender HR deluxe cab and freaking love it. I just love this amp.
On the Ceriatone website there are 10 different non-HRM Overtone Special Series amps. Do you know which one this is? It sounds great.
Nick Knirk I don't, but you should just exchange emails with Nik. He is very helpful. Regarding speaker choice, I got the G12-65 in the cab recommended on the Ceriatone site. Killer.
Great comparison, these really gives people the real-world ears-on low down. The non-HRM is by far the better for the clean-edge tone, the low-notes fart-out too much on the HRM and it doesn't have the subtle clarities that the non-HRM delivers. Shredders would likely pick the Hot Rodded Marshall (HRM), and the Carlton-guys go for the non-HRM.
I the feeling you produce in your plenty. Sweet!
Kinda sounded like the HRM was a bit more buttery and smooth. Is that your take on it? Personally, I'm looking for that butter tone ... so if you had to suggest, the non-HRM or the HRM model?? Thanks!! Cheers!!
I have a Ceriatone HRM. I play blues, rock classic...And with the hrm I really think you can get a good rock sound and screaming leads. It's a really good amp. I have the OD on say 9-10 o clock for bluesy/dumble tone and kick in a bb-preamp, rc booster among a couple of other pedals to beef up the sound. Those pedals don't color your sound to much either so I can retain that dumbley sound but with more gain.But you don't need pedals beacause the HRM has an extra knob on the back for extra gain.
Are those pickups seymour duncan seth lovers ?? Great playing and great sound !
yes. Seth Lovers!
Is that a Tokai?? I had a Greco years ago. Actually I had 2, one was the year before they started making exact gibson copies; it had a smaller body (somewhat in between the 335 and 339), and the strange slotted bridges that Ibanez used to use. I wish I still had it. I can't remember what the model was, but I know there weren't many. whenever I'd do a Google images search 3 out of 4 that came up were of mine, as in the one I played.
I'm thinking of picking up another to modify into a stereo out with a bigsby.
If that IS a a Tokai: what's the fretboard width like? Is it narrower than Gibsons? I didn't think it would be an issue, but last winter a customer brought his Epi Lucille, and it had a really narrow nut. I don't think that I could get used to it. It reminded me of my first electric:it was one of those cheap electric guitar packages where they give you a guitar, strap, small 15W solid state Peavey, cable and a Mel Bay guitar book. This was the late 80s, so it was a junk guitar. Kramer Starfighter! Had the Kramer headstock, but that was it. It wasn't a Kramer, the headstock didn't even tilt back. The nut was so narrow thar it felt like a broom stick.
if it's like the older Les Paul width i would be good with it, but I thought I saw that they were like 1 5/8.
I think the Edwards 335 has a 25 1/2" scale, and that would just be too different. Plus, while having solid maple top and side on its face sounds great, I think it would change the tone significantly. Whether to good or Ill I can't tell, I've never played them. I have a 339 and was able to A/B it against a 336 that came in with solid top and back, but those are much smaller so I can't extrapolate it.
I LOVE semi hollows through the OTS.
Yes, it's a Tokai. Beautiful.
marinblues I'm looking at picking another one up. I remember turning down A Tokai, but for the life of me, I can't remember why. It was a design thing, not a quality thing I remember that much. Does it have the narrow nut? if so, that might have been why. That wouldn't be an issue this time around. Sounds killer. Stock pickups? I really liked the Greco for playing louder or with higher gain. It had bound F-holes that I wasn't thrilled with when I first took it home, but it was a backup for a Gibson 345. The binding on the F-holes ended up fighting feedback really well. It want as lively as the Gibson, but it was a fair tradeoff IMO.
The light OD in this clip is PERFECT, I had a couple of customers that are all gear heads watch it separately, all said those exact words, and all at the very same time on the video.
no, the nut isn't narrow. the neck is fairly wide, not like my goldtop 57, but on the wider side. I changed the pickups to seymour duncan's seth lovers
marinblues Ah ok well that's good to know. I spoke with another luthier who's customer was selling the one I looked at and he reminded me that it had a repaired headstock, which isn't a deal breaker to me in of itself, but he wanted too much $ for a guitar with a repaired headstock.
Some of the lawsuit Les Pauls can get to a price where it doesn't make much sense to buy instead of a Gibson, but the Semi hollows are usually MUCH less than used Gibsons.
I setup an Edwards for someone that I didn't like at all. The quality was great, but I didn't like the solid maple top and back as much as I thought I would it changed the tone too much. Plus I think it had a Fender 25.5" scale neck.
The Seth Lovers are great, I've had them in a LP and SG years ago. once I found the Lollar low winds, I couldn't look back though.
Excellent tones and playing
What was the backing track on this? I'm in the non-HRM camp. Think I'll build one. Much appreciation for all your great videos; a very cool Cat.
I agree with BluesRocker52. I've been trying to get an idea of these amps thru TH-cam clips and virtually every one is in the same jazzy Larry Carlton style.
CAN you use these amps for anything else?
can i ask what that songs is your playing? your own? backtrack? thx. I like the non hrm in this video.
I was torn....Nik....who I trust....advised the HRM....but for some reason I got the 50 watt non-HRM. Since I dont have a HRM here to compare at home side by side....I dont know what I'm missing if anything I can say this....I luv the one I have.
I'd probably go for the HRM. It covers a wider spectrum, although the OTS has a tone to die for.
ermmm, i was loving the tone till you mentioned the axe fx bit.... how much of that very expensive peice of kit did you use? because im pretty sure you could have plugged an axe fx into a tv input and the tv woulda sounded amazing
Thanks again for your videos!! A request- could you perhaps do a side by side comparison video (like this one) featuring the clean channels of both? Or, if you've sold the OTS then just the HRM. Thanks again!!
If you had to choose one amp for a jazz/pop/rock fusion type of music, which would you choose. the OTS or HRM? By the way, outstanding playing!!! You free for some studio work?
That sounds Great! Wow!~
Is he going straight in with the delay at post production?
OR did he just go FX>Ceriatone?
amazing tone!!! both of them!!!
Marin, can you tell us what the main difference between the amps is as far as the internals?
Thanks, Colly.
Better??? Don`t know if that`s the word I would use. The HRM is Fat beyond belief. The non is a solid amp but I believe I will stick with the HRM. Basically, it`s like having a souped up Twin and a JCM 900 in one amp. Superb clean tone and headroom for ever and many variations of dirty, from nice smooth and mild to raunchy nasty. HRM, hands down in my opinion. Especially with a Mercury Output Transformer and a few other tweeks.
Great playing! Thanks for the demo...weird tho'...I've been listening to that Johnny Guitar Watson track for the last few weeks on TH-cam (I Want To Ta-Ta You Baby)..and then the first OTS demo I watch has it as a backing track...where did you get that from? Love that track..
So marinblues....having played both HRM and original Overtones which one do you like the best?
Please , could you tell me where can I get the backing track name... great playing, great tone, you can really play ...beyond the amp... cheers from Argentina...
It's Johnny Guitar Watson's "I Wanna Ta Ta You Baby". Not sure where to get it though.
I absolutely LOVE this video, I can't count how many times I watch it. I wince with joy every time you hit that first lick. Question, if you don't mind: Do you feel like the HRM gives up anything to the OTS? In this video it seems to have a touch more bite, and less "smoothness" (less Fendery) but could easily be adjusted to be similar. Do you find that's the case? Just curious, and thanks again!
More harmonics with the HMR but still bright, I prefer the warmer tones without the HMR if you had a control that you could blend the two. Larry Carlton vibe, Lov the tones..
HRM is the better obviously. If you like the non HRM sound for some of the things you play get the mod or tweek the gain and eq...duuhh. anyway, I've heard them both and its a no brainer for anyone who wants that Dumble tone, not to mention the clean headroom of the OD HRM. It's like having a Twin on one side and Dumble on the other. Best amp ever made
do you use effects in the loop? no sound problem? or you're use a buffer ?
If I remember well, I had delay in the loop. At low volumes, I didn't need the buffer.
thanks mate. Check out the new clip of the HRM, the tone is fatter and smoother there.
Sounds like the HRM version might be better for rock? What do you all think?
nice amp&guitar&playing！！
Does Marinblues imply from Marin County California ? I'm from there, mill valley and novato.
So which exact model are you playing?...So many choices and mods
Is there any difference in the clean sound between the two??
sounds great, what speakers do you use?
sounds like LC style.
Wich cab did you use?
Really amazing tone!!
fantastic, my kind of tune and my kind of tone!!!
Great demo. But that little burst of white noise every now and then is annoying. Still, awesome sounding amps, both. But like others I prefer the Non-HRM, though the HRM may be more versatile. I've got other amps for versatility.
I'd like to hear it with a Les Paul Junior, wonder if it'll effortlessly give up the Intro tone ala Steve Hunter.
What s HRM?
Nice and usefull video (and great playing as allways)
Greets
Steven
is that an es-335 copy you're playing? What make?
I vote for the HRM version.
can you tell where you got that backing track?
great playing. As always, my friend.
Anyway, if I may:
1. Speakers?
2. 50/100 Watts?
3. Added FX?
Humm? ;o))
what cab speakers do you use?
What kinda cab are you using?
What 335 copy are you using?
@BluesRocker52 I agree...
I'd like to hear if I can get a John Mayer type sound...
clean and lead as well
HRM all day!
@olalator His Royal Majesty. (the original is called the OverTone Special). Go to ceriatoneDOTcom to see all of the amps.
what's that back ground music
forgot: Cab? Open-Closed? 1/2/4 x 12?
Great tone but did you film this with the a Sony Walkman?
Special has a Fender flavor, while the HRM has the Marshall flavor.
I'm not the expert on this. Perhaps you should drop a mail to Nik from Ceriatone.
Can this be bought built?....Are they still in business?
Richard B Yep I bought a Plexi Super Lead off them a few months ago, it's is the most awesome amp I have ever owned
non for me, but great!
@WuTangBoneThugs Looks like a Tokai maybe?
Not really suited for Hard "Crunchy" Rock. Classic Rock maybe. They don't crunch and compress like a Marshall or a Mesa Boogie which are far better choices if you're gonna be playing a lot of Rock power chords. Great for fat fluid leads popular in Jazz Fusion. If you run a compressor it helps a little but still not the best. I know, I have a OTS HRM.
i like non hrm more. but studio guy would choose hrm, i think) WHAT IS HRM???
olalator hot rodded marshall
Very very close to the Ford tone. If it was Ford doing the playing it would be there. Certainly not that there's anything wrong at all with this fellow's playing.
what guitar is this?
I believe it is a Sakai semi hollow guitar (ES-335 type)
John Adams Tokai. Seth Lover pickups.
hrm for me ，but both great
what is HRM?)
olalator hot rodded marshall
There are many models ceriatone dumble type.
What is that sound more like the dumble? There are S & M? HRM? 183? fm?
Them more like?
the non hrm version is much smoother sounding.
The HRM version sounds slightly 'farty' esp on the pick attack .. I vote NoN.
Sounds similar to the tone of Robben Ford.
axe-fx
non - hrm
Non Hrm
Not to HRM
no HRM
period
playing a Dumble clone with a Gibson clone...
Its no longer a champagne and caviar cost.. Power to the people and this guy has it in his fingers.. Nothing wrong with that!!!!
Non
goss1961
Check my answer
Everything you record sounds the same.