@@magic5596 of course I want to hear more. It’s really interesting stuff. Especially if you want to try and survive a nuclear blast. And now I am off to play Defcon computer game. 👍🤣👍 O yeah I am looking at a house tomorrow to buy, if it hasn’t got a nuclear bunker, I won’t be interested.. 🤣👍
@@grahamfisher5436 Thank you ! I watched, and it was very interesting. I also like volcanoes. So it was a double win for me. Thanks for your recommendation. I truly appreciate it. 👍♥️👍🇬🇧♥️
With war looming between the US and Russia. It unfortunately is a necessity to learn as much as possible on how to survive a nuclear attack. May we never have to worry about surviving an attack. May God help us all.
My great grandfather lived in a small village outside Nagasaki, he saw the explosion from far away but it didn't harm him. He went to the city the next day to see the devastation. He later moved to the USA and became an engineer. I still have several artifacts that he recovered from Nagasaki that day, among them is a watch and hands still point to the exact time the explosion happened.
I spent a winter in a nuclear fallout area once, mutated freaky people, no daylight for months on end, fighting in the streets over food and breeding rights, In the summer though, Aberdeen was actually alright
The North Koreans are ready, we are not. We could Have been destroyed last week with a false alarm. Unbelievable inadequate for nuclear war and vaporization is forever! And that’s bad thing..
Many people would feel the same way individually, but when you bring family into it things can change, I'd struggle to stay alive at the cost of other people if it meant keeping my wife and kids safe or at the very least giving them a chance.
Yeah I thought that, he wanted some cheap laughs in his underwhelming Ted Talk: HOW can you explain to 1950's US Schoolkids that in all probability, if there is a nuclear attack you are all dead in terrible ways? The Government knew it wouldn't save them all to make them duck and cover. But it might save SOME, and saving ANYONE is better than doing nothing. Doing Triage is a terrible thing but the other option is abandoning everyone to their fate.
Being under you desk wont protect anyone, period. If a school was serious, they would do drills to get the kids in a basement, of God forbid, the Govt pay for schools to have shelters under them. Your taking the 2 instances of his "duck and cover" comments out of context.
@@jcfra420 Most of the Civil Defense programs at the height of the cold war (Duck and Cover included), were mostly to give the population a false sense of security. This was to keep the population from panicking and all the chaos that would ensue. It simply is not feasible to build and supply enough reinforced shelters for a general population of over 200 million people (over 350 million currently). In all honesty if a nuclear attack had occurred, it is highly doubtful they would have even activated the civilian alert systems at all.
@@djmoo1984 So i guess in conclusion the best defense and preservation of human life is having peace talks and negotiation. Lose that option and the second line of defense is dismal.
Duck and Cover was based on what was learned from japan and nuclear weapons tests (mainly Atomic bombs). They learned there was a survival zone around the point of detonation. Many of the injuries in the zone was NOT from radiation and heat but from the debris caused by the shockwave. Things like flying glass, gravel, wood, and other rubble injured as many as the heat pulse and gamma rays.
The problem I have with most mockery of "duck and cover" or shelter criticism is that most people look at it like you are trying to avoid destruction ay ground zero. Well DUH being under a desk at ground zero does nothing but if you are a few miles from the explosion such shelter protects you from flying glass, thermal effects and debris from the shockwave. Not everyone will be at the hypocenter of a nuke explosion. Some will simply be in areas where you CAN avoid burns or broken glass which, after the event is extremely important because first aid will be a luxury. Avoiding injury that could become infection is very important.
So you survive the blast. Then what? Ever hear of fallout? You are going to stumble around looking for food & clean water. & so will everyone else who survived. It will look like a Mad Max movie. Is that the world you want to live in?
Anyone who shares his two cents worth and includes the word DUH, if that is indeed an acceptable word in the English language, he is telling the world that he has no sense no feeling for his fellow man, nor himself. Have a nice day.
So.. 1) Don't look at blast 2) If still alive, run like a crazy person away from the godawful explosion for half a hour or so. Everyone will be hysterical, but don't be curiose or 'hunt for survivors' unless you want to be a corpse. You need to move! 3) Look for a solid basement or really tall building. 4) Hide and get a radio or something, while getting rid of your cloths and showering like crazy. 5) Hope you don't die of cancer. About right?
Hello friend, I could tell you with some good confidence, that we will see a massive world reset within the next 20 or 30 years, I think we are right up against that change, many people across the globe feel it will be soon. I feel it is important we prepare inside our house and heart, mind, soul to live as though God is in us and guiding us, according to his will
@@herbertharris1663 The younger me would have immediately responded to your post with derisive comments about you wearing a tinfoil hat. However, the older me has seen so many posts like yours over so many decades of life that I have no questions to ask. I wish you all the best in offering the sort of tangible evidence that will be necessary if your goal is to be taken seriously.
I’m a child of the 80s. I remember the hysteria, I remember at the age of 10 and 11 being scared shitless of nuclear war. I remember the made for TV movie, The Day After.
i'm here because of both The Day After and Threads...possibly the most terrifying movies ever made...I just really hope world leaders know about the absurdity of MAD
I was Nuclear Missile launch officer at Whiteman AFB right outside Kansas City and was watching this movie from down in the Launch Control Center while on alert.
9 year old Ted talk on surviving a nuclear attack… 100% relevant in 2022. This video is going to see a revival for sure. The suitcase nuke was a scary reminder.
I just broke my girlfriends new MacBook, coming here for some advice. Just a heads up, estimated time of melt down and explosion is 30 min past Norwegian McDonald’s closing hour.
@Mike Housego It was the first thing i tried, it actually came very natural, no training needed. Method is however flawed as it only works 2 times in the short span of a few seconds.
I was married to a nuclear physicist. Who said none of the "50's suggestions for it are viable anymore. If you go underground now and a nuclear bomb, like they have today, explodes within a certain radius, you'll be melted to the ground and fried in place." He also said that "the energy released in the first 3 seconds of a nuclear warhead exploding today (which was in 2017) is greater than the amount of energy in all the weapons of WW2, including the two atomic bombs that were exploded over Japan in 1945." He said there were "no 'low-yield' nuclear weapons." He was awfully grim about it.
you can't ask anyone to give up their nuclear arsenal. USA : please give up your nuclear weapons and denuclearize. France : Okay, you first. Russia : no. Uk : okay, right after you. China : what? India : i wish it was that simlple but pakistan got nukes Pakistan : wallah, india started first Israel : you should all give up nukes, but we need some for our legitimate defense Commie Korea : we denucrearize when capitarism endsu, or versus billion dollars Germany : Frankreich Nuklear arsenal is the property of das Europeanunion, so nein!
I'm from the UK and it's very quickly becoming a complete police state. Politicians are all corrupt and cowardly. I'm moving to Canada it's that bad, paying taxes in the UK is paying for your own demise, it's completely mental.
The only country to have voluntarily given up nuclear weapons is South Africa. Ukraine might be a close second, but that is technically a different case, as Ukraine was part of the USSR, and the nukes on their territory were Soviet, not Ukranian property. In theory, the Ukranians could have refused to give the Soviet nukes back to Russia, but that wouldn't have ended well for them.
Einstein was not involved in the Manhattan Project. What he did was write a letter in 1939 to President Roosevelt, telling him that Germany was working on atomic projects and may be the first to make an atomic bomb. Hitler, though showed very little interest in the project
He was charismatic, not smart. He was good at getting crowds to listen to him, but when it comes to listening to his military advisors telling him to not do dumb shit (Start a war wit Russia) he was pretty bad at it.
Tawz, let me rephrase that...He was insane, a drug addicted lunatic with syphilis that was untreated. This led to him being perceived as misguided, to say the least. He went a bit off task, wouldn't you agree?
18:50 "hurricane like wind". The larger nukes will also give you a vacuum wave after the pressure wave. You get the flash burn a few seconds before the pressure wave.
The duck and cover thing isn't all that ridiculous when you consider that some victims of Hiroshima/Nagasaki were saved simply because they wore an extra layer of clothing, which blocked more thermal radiation, reducing the severity of burns to their bodies. Where others with thinner layers of clothes had much more severe burns. So simply getting out of the line of sight of the blast can be enough to at least mitigate the thermal damage. And better yet, if you're in a ditch or the like, the pressure wave won't have quite as severe an effect on you as it won't make direct contact.
Of course you can survive a nuclear attack, and the aftermath of fallout. Air burst radiation is minimal, and has a very short half-life (less than a week). A significant number of scientists argue that nuclear winter is overblown, especially since the modern reduction in arsenals. If most of the likely weapons were used, direct blast and thermal damage is a very tiny percentage of the earth's surface area. But it would be prioritized to a our major towns and support systems. Surviving the collapse of society in an all out exchange will be the real challenge. Oddly enough, the reduction in our arsenals has rendered" assured destruction" down to "somewhat survivable", and it appears the world is treating it as such lately!
I was raised just outside of a SAC base, so definitely a target. I'll never forget doing a duck and cover drill when my desk was right next to a wall of window glass. Now that's thinkin'
You are mistaken. Most of the Nevada tests were *underground.* 100 atmospheric, 921 underground. (per Atomic Heritage Foundation website, Nevada Test Site) Still, that is a lot of above ground tests.
@@marysueeasteregg Thanks for the info. I suppose the 100 atmospheric were in Nevada, apparently more were elsewhere in the U.S. : "1,054 tests by official count (involving at least 1,149 devices). 219 were atmospheric tests as defined by the CTBT.' - re atomic testing in the U.S.; Wikipedia. So the U.S. was only hit with 219 nuclear devices.
14:50 That is NOT Alexandr Lebed. The man with the suitcase is former Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA). The man sitting to his right (our left) is former Congressman Dan Burton (R-IN). Weldon made improving relations with post-Soviet Russia a major theme of his tenure in Congress.
My father bought 22.5 heavily wooded acres & built his 1,850 sq ft blast/fallout shelter ,by 1963 he had poured a 12 ft thick basement slab over top the 12 ft thick shelter walls & roof & finished building a basement reinforced so heavily will poured interior walls that the 2,800 SQ ft house cannot collapse into the basement ,he installed a 25kw generator that runs off home fuel oil & drilled a 380 ft deep well that's separate from the main house well ,he put in two 300 gallon fuel oil tanks directly in the basement which was code until the 80s and he built block houses around the tanks to protect them from rubble ,I should note that he had the foresight to build deep enough to create 12 ft high basement ceilings ,he created a septic feild for the shelter will hand cranked fresh water for hygiene and what he called the " sump room ,in the back of the shelter he sunk a septic holding tank beneath the shelter and built basically an outhouse over it ,he stocked powdered lye ,if plumbing went down we would have opened his gasketed toilet seat ,popped and thrown a scoop of lye over our fecees to prevent disease ,he even installed 4 hand cranked air filters in case power went down . I can remember giving the real estate appraisal kid a tour of the family home after both parents passed away & he called the police & turned me in because he was frightened that my father built an armory and stocked it will firearms ,many being pre NFA automatics that his father had bought for peanuts from police force auctions in the 1920s ,I ended up buying the house from the family & we converted the shelter into a functional home theater and mother inlaw apartment ,in 2009 my wife & I spent $35,000 replacing the 30 year old food with various shelf life foods where our 1st 2 years we could feed all 16 family members a gourmet dinner every night with lunches being high quality canned meals ,after 2 years our meals would consist of military MRE's from around the world ,we even have 10 cases of French MRE's which contain extremely high calorie & protien goose liver ,we can live for 5 years before we even have to tap into the beans & rice ,very few people outside the family even know about our shelter ,the millennials we've had over to watch movies in the theater don't even realize they are in a nuclear shelter ,my dad was very inventive ,the 3,100 pound blast door is a pocket door that slides inside an opening in the wall ,once shut from the inside 6 hydrolic arms fold out & are used like a car jack to engage the door tightly to it's outer gasket my dad cleverly made himself using Okem ,as long as I keep the okem oiled it's gasket ability is like new ,I hope we never have to use it but we're located in a manufacturing state Russia is sure to attack .
I was one of those kids ducking for cover in school back in the early 60's. I grew up terrified about this and now I'm not sure people even think about it much but it's just as likely today. We'd rather obsess about people created dramas and short term problems instead of working to remove nuclear weapons from the world. This is the main extinction level problem we face, not comets, not asteroids, not immigration or poltical parties fighting over control. This is highly more likely that everything else in the short term.
@@Jay-vr9ir I was a submariner on a Trident boat (Ohio class) 1999 to 2003. We did not think the monster was dead. We were very much on a nuclear hair trigger and still are. You can't really not be on a hair trigger. Let's say we made it so you have to go through Congress to launch nukes. Well, you only have a few minutes once the other side launches. What if a crazy President like Trump gives the order, you say? The military would refuse to follow the order as Russia and China would not have launched. We are obligated to ignore illegal orders.
I also remember "playing" duck and cover in school under my desk in the early '60s. There was also a poster in the classroom showing enemy jets in attack mode.
My sister was taking the required physical health class in college, and he covered nuclear attack and how to survive it, which was not covered in my class 4 years before. After he went through all the horrors & explains what the world would be like in a MAD world of 1985 he then turns to the class and asked, But would you really want to survive it? Probably not, and you should probably pray that you are within the destruction zone. What a truthful instructor! My sister felt at the time she had no children and was not married, yet I, on the other hand, had said no, we should try to survive and continue civilization, I had no children and was not married yet. Today, my sister will give anything to survive anything, she has 4 children, 2 grandchildren, and they are her world, she would try to survive and hope and pray they do, because she wants to see them have a future, no matter what it is. I would not want to survive, I do not have a family. Wasn't my luck, so I wouldn't be leaving anyone behind and I wouldn't want to see the carnage and destruction. I know my skills would be very important, but then you start to feel guilty. Could be of service, I know my husbands skills would be of service, do we have a right to choose that we would not want to survive, could we choose that we don't go somewhere safe, you won't know until something happens, that's the whole key to it, just like those people on the Poseidon adventure, I'm sure some people didn't want to try and make it through. But they tried anyway, and found they were of service in some way in getting the others out even if they didn't make it. You don't know how important you are to the scheme of life until you're needed. Let's just hope none of us are called to find out.
I am so happy I am childfree, I can't imagine how would I handle this entire shitshow if I had kids. My heart goes out to all parents, trying to keep it totgether for their little ones.
i am a Health Physics (radiation safety) tech,and have worked at over 75 refuelings outages. We spent a lot of time discussing this topic.What will kill you after a nuclear attack is #1 breakdown of the infrastructure #2 other very desperate survivor's . Have 60 days supplies, ina good shelter....you will survive. Have 2 years of seed,and you'll be a hero.
@@Kif_Lee I'm child free too!I have a beautiful great niece of 18 months and i'm very worried for her future.Some of my friends were always telling me that i'll regret for not having children.I didn't regret and as the time goes by i think i made the right desition.The world of today is in deep serious problems!
He doesn't explain the 2 different basic harms from a nuclear blast very well: Gamma radiation is the initial wave and it goes through basically everything except heavy lead panels (but it is lessened by layers of "stuff" between you and the blast). Those who can shield their bodies totally with lead (Xray Lab tech?) or can get 3-4 feet of earth between you and the blast will be safest. But it's so fast that largely there is little to be done about the gamma rays, unless you have prior warning. It is pretty instantaneous I believe. The next to contend with is the fallout, and that is where the major life saving measures really come into play that he's talking about here.
Ken this is my question...let's say you are 20 or 30 or 50 miles away from the blast....far enough away that the gamma rays would not hurt you, but you need to stay safe from the fallout. Nothing to be done about the blast unless you have special materials or an underground shelter...or plenty of forewarning. But plenty to be done about avoiding the fallout!
I don't know if he's crazy or im Mr Negative but the odds that you will survive the explosion, the heat, radiation and fallout, with rogue masses of people pillaging. How are you going to eat, don't forget you'll probably be sick to your stomach from the beginning of radiation sickness? I think I'll go with the few seconds it takes to be vaporized.
Duck and cover is actually fairly rational. Sure, the odds of surviving a low yield tactical weapon detonated nearby are negligible, but the odds of surviving a Hydrogen bomb kilometers away are not. And they are much better if you are away from windows which could burn you or shatter and slice you, and under a desk which can prevent falling debris from being lethal.
johnny30806 True. .unless a citizen has one ..or if you know were a old shelter is from the 1950s to 80s ,then is it stocked up and still able to survive the blast and fallout..
Actually, find someone that has lived in your area since 60's or 70's.They probably will remember where they are. I am in my 40's and know where a bunch are in my area.
Just trying to help the guy out. I have plans for most scenarios. If it one of them high yeild Kiloton bastards, just gonna stand outside and kiss my ass good bye...lol Im surrounded by 5 military instalations. Gauranteed target
unless the megaton bomb is drop right on top of your head, why wouldnt be possible to survive explosion/attack in megaton magnitude? are you talking about short term or long term (month and more)?
I bartended for a long time and one bar I worked at I had a couple of special forces guys that were regulars both were really great guys and great tippers, one day while they were there I had 2 other customers that were talking about how much ammo and food they had for a disaster and after a while one of the special forces guys leans over and tells them “don’t forget to save the last bullet for yourself” in meaning that in case of something like a nuclear attack, if you survive; the fallout and other people are going to be just as dangerous and you might find yourself in a situation where the most humane thing to do for yourself is to just end it
It is worth noting that before 1963 there were over 500 atmospheric tests of nuclear weapons in the world. I know it is not the primary focus of this talk, but there is little discussion of what actually happened in the late 1980s to 1990s to “lessen” the likelihood of an all-out civilization-ending nuclear war. It is still a remarkable threat 30 years later. It should also be noted that “all-out nuclear warfare” involves the simultaneous launching of literally thousands of warheads using a command and control system that does not allow an order to return or cease to take place. The “civilization ends” over a period of time when the inevitable resulting firestorms deposit billions of tons of sunlight-blocking soot and fallout particles in the upper atmosphere where they are at an altitude that makes them too high to be washed out by rainfall. “Nuclear winter” takes place and mankind cannot grow enough food to survive. Therefore “all-out nuclear war” is STILL the most devastating “Sword of Damocles” hanging over mankind…although we rarely discuss it as a country. Perhaps this will change as a result of the Ukraine war.
Civil Defense plans were hardly ridiculous. If you're outside that 1-2 mile radius, getting under the desk or in the shelter will probably save your life. This is especially true in the 1950s in a time when bombs were low-yield and had to be dropped by planes and not missiles.
He makes a few good points but I found it highly inaccurate the way he used an air burst model to show a simulation of a ground-based detonation in New York. The two blasts are extremely different in effects. In terms of fallout, it will be a fair bit heavier locally with a ground based detonation than with an air burst as more material and top soil would be carried up by the mushroom cloud to rain down as toxic death later but in a ground blast, half of the blast is absorbed by the ground underneath it at the time of detonation and the rest dissipates as the blast wave travels horizontally and encounters structures and the part of the wave that travels straight up just dissipates in the air thus the radius of the blast is significantly smaller and for those further away and shielded by intervening structures and terrain, 90% of the initial high-intensity gamma burst will be also absorbed before it reaches them. In an air burst, the gamma rays come directly down and thus hit everything not under the cover of a significant amount of material the same way sun rays get you unless you have something directly over your head. An air burst also creates a secondary blast wave as part of the blast bubble travels straight down, reflects from the surface and travels outwards along the path of primary. The spot where these two blast waves meet is known as a mach stem. Its essentially a double wave traveling together. More energy and damage for the same amount of power. Optimum detonation height for the size of bomb a terrorist would use is likely to be around 1000ft.
Agreed. A ground blast within the confines of sky scrapers would be relatively contained. Assuming that whomever built the device was rudimentary, it would be a very low yield high radiation mess. :-|
Sly Fox please educate me, I watch too much tv. I thought there was an instant EMP that takes out cars and the power grid? can you list effects and time frame of EMP and any other overlooked issues?
I heard that in some nuclear reactor, a few feet of concrete stops the radiation released very well, so the concrete in skyscrapers can probably absorb a lot of the deadly radiation.
Let's see. Move over a mile away in ~20 minutes. This after experiencing the concussion of a nearby nuclear blast. So you're already disoriented. Now add that the roads are likely covered with the debris flung out from the blast, with many roads and bridges damaged or destroyed, it's not likely many would traverse that distance in that short a period of time.
Ducking and covering is free, easy to learn and very effective. Its critics assume you will be exactly at ground zero; you probably won't be. Its critics assume the US and Russia will fire 10 000 warheads each; that's not true, most are not assembled or ready to go and many are in various states of decommisioning and many will not launch as silos are destroyed. It's critics assume that most nukes are multi-megaton weapons, most are 100-200 kT. Its critics don't understand the effects of nuclear weapons. Ducking makes you a much smaller target for shrapnel such as broken glass windows and the velocity of the blast wind needs to be 4 times higher to toss you. Burns reduce survival chances and use valuable resources and care; reducing the extent of burns is important. The majority in a nuclear attack is not at ground zero
one thing you don't want to get in an environment with radioactive dust is second or third degree burns. That would end really badly in terms of infection and radioactive particles in your bloodstream.
duck and cover is usefull because the blast streem is significantly stronger a few feet above the ground. but it doesnt help if the light shines through your skull. thats really uncomfortable.
I actually have that experience. In the building somewhere in northern Europe I think, in a dream, I was walking down around hallway. It was not pleasant it just kept getting more and more bright and more and more white and more and more painful or intense.The next day the movie "the day after" was on television. It could've been a premonition which technically would have change the future so it might have prevented it from happening.
My ex-husband had a Ph.D in Nuclear physics. He also told me that if you start reading about the 2 key ingredients in making nuclear weapons "you'll spark the interest of ppl who make it their business to check you out. They're not especially nice people," he said "and you won't soon forget them if they pay you a visit." He worked at Los Alamos Laboratories.
When the Cold War was at its height, I used to get nightmares f craning my neck up, up up, as a mushroom cloud rose over the village in which I lived, with the sick awareness that my world was about to end. However, I soon felt actual comfort from the fact that RAF Chicksands, a UK/US elint (electronic intelligence) listening station is located just 8 miles from the sleepy little village of Ickleford, where I live. Surely I would be vaporised in the first wave. Because I really wouldn't want to survive a nuclear exchange, because I don't see how the cork could ever be put back in the bottle once popped.
Looks like TH-cam has picked him for their darling. It will not get off my recommended list, maybe now that I've acted like I am watching it it'll go away?? No clue why I am seeing this video Fed to me.
One of his conclusions: “Nuclear war is much less likely than before, but by no means out of the question.” Given the current circumstances, this no longer entirely rings true.
i remember going in to make up a test for chemistry and my teacher said "this school has enough chemicals to wipe out our town" and I was like "....oh"
But, does the school have plutonium? Probably not, because you can't just buy plutonium in any store. If they have it, they must have ripped it off from the Lybians. You need something with a little more kick to generate 1.21 Gigawats.
Thorium could in principle get rid of both the nuclear weapons and climate change problem: With a molten salt reactor (which is way safer than traditional reactors) we can use nuclear warheads as fuel for the reactors, downgrade the current nuclear waste, and reduce greenhouse gases emissions...
you would still need to decrease the enrichment percentage homogenously to avoid parts of your fuel going supercritical, and I'm not sure if it's as easy as enriching.
I absolutely believe 100% in God and I absolutely believe 100% that he doesn’t and never will intervene in what we do to ourselves. That’s the blessing and the curse we were given. Complete self determination and the consequences thereof.
Not happy about the USA withdrawing from the INF treaty. Not happy about elements of the USA actively provoking Russia rather than co-operating with them.
Thank Hillary's projection of her collusion with Russia onto the Trump candidacy and Trump administration. Hillary produced a legendary display of hubris and diplomatic recklessness for selfish political gain.
@@michaelmagyar5734 Indeed, the Boltonites and Clintonites are acting outside the law, and against the interests of the American public. I'd agree that they're co-ordinating with foreign oligarchs and other rogue governments for anti-competitive, anti-democratic havoc and war-profiteering. They're expert gaslighters. th-cam.com/video/jl9s09LMp10/w-d-xo.html
Trump and Putin withdraw from the treaty and Hillary gets blamed. Maybe it's time for the whole shithouse to go up in flames. I'd just feel sorry for the children. They don't deserve to perish for the sins of the fathers.
@@vecchiosilvi And Russia withdrew after blatant violations of agreements regarding 'missile shields' that have been put up around Russia. The West is the Aggressor in the New Cold War and such aggression was ordained by the Obama Administration despite Hillary Clinton and her 'Russia Reset' as Foreign Sectary. Yeah. Amma blame Hillary alright. PS "time for the whole shithouse to go up in flames" stop being a defeatist brah. You're better than that.
Contrary to popular opinion, "Duck and Cover" was and still is reasonable and helpful advice. In the event of a nuclear strike you will probably not know how powerful or distant it will be. You may very well be outside of the fireball and high pressure blast and thus have a chance of survival. At the edge of the blast wave there will be a large area where structures are still standing but windows are blown in. This glass and debris can cause serious injuries that may be avoided by duck and cover under a desk or other protection. The odds of survival in this situation are greatly reduced if you suffer burns or lacerations because radioactive particles can get in the wounds. But if you avoid such injuries and enter a fallout shelter at that point your odds of survival are pretty good. Duck and Cover is useful for protecting against cuts and associated increased risks from radiation sickness. It should not be interpreted to suggest that you could survive a fireball or high pressure wave strong enough to knock down buildings. Nevertheless, it is useful advice.
True. It's like Stop Drop and Roll when catching fire. If you have Napalm on your body, that won't work, but for many fires it would work. Duck and Cover will protect your eyes and internal organs from debris damage. Of course, a direct hit over your neighborhood or a few miles above and away, that won't help, but outside the initial blast, you will have a better chance of survival. It's not like you know for certain when and where the bomb will hit.
I would have to agree with boats. Going underground seriously limits your options if things get any worse (for one reason or another). I would say that boats can be a slow process, of course depending on the type of boat. 15 minutes is such a short amount of time. Getting unanchored etc would have to be a speedboat and just pin it. If anyone has a speedboat I'm your new bestie.
Bob Swartz - - Bob, I was hearing what he was saying, and thinking the same thing. Shouldn’t it be: get UPWIND of the origin of the fallout cloud or crossways of it. Did we miss the meaning of his explanation?
I didn't understand it either. Even double checked the meaning of "downwind" as I'm not a native English speaker. If someone can clarify, would be much appreciated, as first thought would be go upwind, away from the fallout...
I was a very active member of the Maryland Nuclear Weapons Freeze Campaign. We had a saying " In the event of an all out nuclear attack, the living will ENVY the DEAD! " 🤯🤯🤯
They weren't wrong in the old "Duck n Cover" cartoons: it will save some people and improves the chance of surviving, should they all have just kept writing their multiplication tables?
It was a way to keep hysteria from the masses during a dark time. That was it. There is no protection from a blast if you are in the area of effect under your desk. If you are outside the blast range, just staying in the building would do as much as hiding under the desk. I really don't understand people that actually thing being under a desk would even save anyone if in area of effect blast.
@HMSBlackPrince If you can survive a couple of months in a fallout shelter until food and water runs out, your chances of survival after that were pretty good. Life after a global thermonuclear war would be farming, hunting, and gathering with relatively short life expectancies. But humans survived for hundreds of thousands of years under similar harsh conditions and could eventually rebuild civilization.
I do get annoyed when people mock the 'duck and cover' type practices. The idea was to allow kids to avoid being burned and blinded in the initial atomic flash detonation or cut to pieces by flying window glass so they could at least get home and die with their families. NOBODY presented it as a final solution or anything like that and nobody thought so, but adults had just lived through a world war and knew exactly what a bomb explosion could do if you took no action whatsoever.
@ConservativeAtheist NO, he is correct. UPWIND is the direction a wind is coming from. In this situation, the wind is originating from the blast area, the place where radiation would be concentrated. You do NOT want to travel upwind in this situation! You want to go downwind -- away from the where the wind is coming -- or (probably ideal) perpendicular to the wind.
Yes, go DOWNWIND. Upwind is the direction a wind is coming from. The wind will be originating from the blast site, where the radiation will be most concentrated. You want to get as far away from the blast site as possible. Yes, radiation will be flowing your way even going downwind, but it will be less and less concentrated the further you get away from the blast site.
@ConservativeAtheist We're agreed: YES, upwind does mean traveling away from the direction the wind will be blowing! Which is exactly what you do NOT want to do. You are describing traveling *into the wind* -- toward the wind's origin -- rather than traveling in the direction the wind is blowing (downwind), with the wind on your back. Traveling upwind after a nuclear blast -- traveling into the wind, rather than downwind, in the same direction the wind is blowing -- will bring you closer to the source of the radiation, and toward the source of firestorms. Mirriam-Webster online: Definition of upwind: in the direction from which the wind is blowing dictionary.com: upwind (adverb): toward or against the wind or the direction from which it is blowing Cambridge Dictionary online: upwind: in the direction from which the wind is blowing quoted from theweatherprediction.com: "In meteorology, a wind direction is the direction the wind is coming from. For example, a Northwest wind is a wind flowing from Northwest toward Southeast. Upwind is the direction the wind is coming from. If the wind is blowing from the Northwest (blowing toward the Southeast) then the upwind direction is toward the Northwest and the downwind direction is toward the Southeast. In other words, if a person is moving upwind then they are moving against the wind and if a person is moving downwind they are moving with the wind." As the speaker said: you want to move downwind, not upwind toward the blast site.
“Chapter two of the nuclear threat era starts in 1991, when the Soviet union broke up we effectively lost that adversary as a potential attacker of the United States for the most part.” Looks like we are onto chapter three, folks!
After the Soviet nuclear targets were released, it turns out that one of the targets was an industrial city that my family happened to live 5 miles from. My entire family and the rest of my area would’ve been obliterated and I wouldn’t even exist.
If you read the accounts of the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you would understand that 'Duck and Cover' would have saved many lives, as many of these atomic survivors were horrifically cut up by flying glass from the blast overpressure. To mock Civil Defense planners in the 50's and 60's for coming up with Bert the Turtle, to protect school children, by having them crawl under their desk and protect their face and torso, shows how little you people really understand about this.
In 1st and 2nd grade 1955 we were having drills where we ducked and covered under our school desks. They stopped in the 3rd grade because hiding under a school desk gave no protection what so ever.
I got out of Brooklyn years ago. My family and I live on 20 remote acres up against the National Forest in Wyoming, with 2 years of supplies and fuel stored on site. But I'm just a crazy prepper, right?
It’s 2022, THIS GUY NEEDS TO COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER VIDEO !
@@magic5596 of course I want to hear more. It’s really interesting stuff. Especially if you want to try and survive a nuclear blast. And now I am off to play Defcon computer game. 👍🤣👍 O yeah I am looking at a house tomorrow to buy, if it hasn’t got a nuclear bunker, I won’t be interested.. 🤣👍
@@TheoriginalANGEK439 TH-cam
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@@grahamfisher5436 Thank you ! I watched, and it was very interesting. I also like volcanoes. So it was a double win for me. Thanks for your recommendation. I truly appreciate it.
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@Roger Vieira 👍♥👍
He needs to come back.
Nuclear bomb, get under desk.
Earthquake, get under desk.
Lava, get on top of desk!
What should I do if a croc attacks?
@@radtech21 offer it a smoke and a COLD beer.
@@brenton2561 steak would be better
Smack it with your thongs
@@radtech21 Flip over desk!
Desk technology has come really far to be the pinnacle of life preservation.
With war looming between the US and Russia. It unfortunately is a necessity to learn as much as possible on how to survive a nuclear attack. May we never have to worry about surviving an attack. May God help us all.
I'm with you on that one
😂😂😂 your not the only one !! I'm also trying to survive a nuclear bomb !!! I don't know whats going on Putin mind these days !
im latin american and im scared af right now. lol wtf happens with the presidents lol.
@@danawhite7361 i have no idea ! It sounds like putin is about to doe and he wants to take the whole world with him
@@danawhite7361 how is being Latin American even relevant in this situation?
My great grandfather lived in a small village outside Nagasaki, he saw the explosion from far away but it didn't harm him. He went to the city the next day to see the devastation. He later moved to the USA and became an engineer. I still have several artifacts that he recovered from Nagasaki that day, among them is a watch and hands still point to the exact time the explosion happened.
Godzilla
Fallout?
Nuclear bomb fallout takes about 24 hours to disapate aslong as its not withing 4 football feilds ish of range of the original blast
@@spicygoomba4048 u don’t know what u r talking about
@@watcher805 Atomic bomb, not nuclear ☢️.
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+Geoff Dick I feel allot of suppressed childhood anger here dick. It must be hard to see with one eye.
ROFL... Oh mighty Glow wash us in your warm splender ;)
+devilsmessanger Prepaaaaared for the future!
War, war never changes
*Vault-Tec
I spent a winter in a nuclear fallout area once, mutated freaky people, no daylight for months on end, fighting in the streets over food and breeding rights,
In the summer though, Aberdeen was actually alright
😂
Poor Aberdeen, no wonder Kurt blew his brains out.
Mutated people ? Care to elaborate on your made up lies ?
@@mokujin29 it's a fallout joke........jeeezzz
@@savoy69 ah
Step 1: Tuck head between knees.
Step 2: Kiss your ass goodbye.
step 3: profit
While the head is down there, you might as well give yourself the Heather Brooke send off..
bring the joint & rum
The North Koreans are ready, we are not. We could Have been destroyed last week with a false alarm. Unbelievable inadequate for nuclear war and vaporization is forever! And that’s bad thing..
Any survival is only temporary. Radiation sickness will eventually kill you!!!
The most interesting thing about surviving a nuclear apocalypse, is that I have no interest in surviving a nuclear apocalypse.
Apocalypse no, incident yes.
Many people would feel the same way individually, but when you bring family into it things can change, I'd struggle to stay alive at the cost of other people if it meant keeping my wife and kids safe or at the very least giving them a chance.
Go there and watch it. You only have the chance to see it once in your life.
I'd want to survive long enough to appreciate not having to go to work.
@@BlckCloud73 you go from a cushy job and civilized life to eeking out an existence amongst ruins and leather clad bezerkers.
Funny seeing everyone here, goodluck gentlemen.
'The only winning move is not to play'. - WOPR in War Games.
Actually, that was Joshua.
“In the nuclear world, the only true enemy is war itself”
-Capt. Hunter
USS Alabama
How about a nice game of chess ?
That! Clap Clap Clap!
It would require nobody plays
Funny how in the beginning he laughs about "duck and cover"-stuff and fifteen minutes later recommends exactly the same thing.
Yeah I thought that, he wanted some cheap laughs in his underwhelming Ted Talk: HOW can you explain to 1950's US Schoolkids that in all probability, if there is a nuclear attack you are all dead in terrible ways? The Government knew it wouldn't save them all to make them duck and cover. But it might save SOME, and saving ANYONE is better than doing nothing. Doing Triage is a terrible thing but the other option is abandoning everyone to their fate.
you only duck and cover if its a truck bomb, If its a suitcase bomb then you just duck.
Being under you desk wont protect anyone, period. If a school was serious, they would do drills to get the kids in a basement, of God forbid, the Govt pay for schools to have shelters under them. Your taking the 2 instances of his "duck and cover" comments out of context.
@@jcfra420 Most of the Civil Defense programs at the height of the cold war (Duck and Cover included), were mostly to give the population a false sense of security. This was to keep the population from panicking and all the chaos that would ensue. It simply is not feasible to build and supply enough reinforced shelters for a general population of over 200 million people (over 350 million currently). In all honesty if a nuclear attack had occurred, it is highly doubtful they would have even activated the civilian alert systems at all.
@@djmoo1984 So i guess in conclusion the best defense and preservation of human life is having peace talks and negotiation. Lose that option and the second line of defense is dismal.
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it" - George Carlin
Loved George.
Ted talks certainly have deteriorated.
Not saying much. Most weren't that great in the firrst place.
You just get in a vintage refrigerator, right?
or Ghoul kids..
Oh yeh I remember that movie.. that stuck with me thru the years .. that little scared girl getting in the fridge... what was the name of that movie?
Some people will. The survivors will get fenced in. It has already happened. I cannot believe we are censored and conditioned to think.
Thanks youtube algorithm, absolutely perfect time to recommend this! *anxiety intensifies
Duck and Cover was based on what was learned from japan and nuclear weapons tests (mainly Atomic bombs). They learned there was a survival zone around the point of detonation. Many of the injuries in the zone was NOT from radiation and heat but from the debris caused by the shockwave. Things like flying glass, gravel, wood, and other rubble injured as many as the heat pulse and gamma rays.
This aged well...9 years ago people came here for the giggles...2022 people taking notes studying
The problem I have with most mockery of "duck and cover" or shelter criticism is that most people look at it like you are trying to avoid destruction ay ground zero. Well DUH being under a desk at ground zero does nothing but if you are a few miles from the explosion such shelter protects you from flying glass, thermal effects and debris from the shockwave. Not everyone will be at the hypocenter of a nuke explosion. Some will simply be in areas where you CAN avoid burns or broken glass which, after the event is extremely important because first aid will be a luxury. Avoiding injury that could become infection is very important.
So you survive the blast. Then what? Ever hear of fallout? You are going to stumble around looking for food & clean water. & so will everyone else who survived. It will look like a Mad Max movie. Is that the world you want to live in?
@@gregoryhagen8801 if it were a mad max apocalypse I would make you my pet Greg, do not worry!
Anyone who shares his two cents worth and includes the word DUH, if that is indeed an acceptable word in the English language, he is telling the world that he has no sense no feeling for his fellow man, nor himself. Have a nice day.
@@estherk7484 Well we can't all be as polite as you.
@@gregoryhagen8801 fallout shelter
So..
1) Don't look at blast
2) If still alive, run like a crazy person away from the godawful explosion for half a hour or so. Everyone will be hysterical, but don't be curiose or 'hunt for survivors' unless you want to be a corpse. You need to move!
3) Look for a solid basement or really tall building.
4) Hide and get a radio or something, while getting rid of your cloths and showering like crazy.
5) Hope you don't die of cancer.
About right?
Ummm... Really tall buildings fall too. It means lots more rubble to dig yourself out of.
YES, dead man walking aka Zombies. (which Hollyweird would have you shoot, instead of shelter (but Hollyweird is full of juice )YMMV
Cancer is a long term problem. Short term radiation sickness is your immediate problem with fallout
Cancer is a long term problem. Short term radiation sickness is your immediate problem with fallout
Up wind!!!!
Well this aged like a fine wine.
Did it though?
The rent-a-truck strategy was used in the TV show Jericho, they were 20 kiloton devices used in major US cities.
@Anuel Jackson in true lies they had a stolen Soviet warhead.
Sad I'm trying to learn something from this because of how close we are to nuclear war.
Hello friend,
I could tell you with some good confidence, that we will see a massive world reset within the next 20 or 30 years, I think we are right up against that change, many people across the globe feel it will be soon. I feel it is important we prepare inside our house and heart, mind, soul to live as though God is in us and guiding us, according to his will
We are no closer to a nuclear war now than we were six weeks ago.
@@herbertharris1663 The younger me would have immediately responded to your post with derisive comments about you wearing a tinfoil hat. However, the older me has seen so many posts like yours over so many decades of life that I have no questions to ask. I wish you all the best in offering the sort of tangible evidence that will be necessary if your goal is to be taken seriously.
TH-cam
ON THE 8TH DAY.
May sense and sensibility lead and prevail.
Good we all need to Di££££££££
I’m a child of the 80s. I remember the hysteria, I remember at the age of 10 and 11 being scared shitless of nuclear war. I remember the made for TV movie, The Day After.
David E Capps aka the starving artist Steve Gutenberg being serious hahaha
i'm here because of both The Day After and Threads...possibly the most terrifying movies ever made...I just really hope world leaders know about the absurdity of MAD
@Floyd1504
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@@minakomel
ON THE 8TH DAY.
I was Nuclear Missile launch officer at Whiteman AFB right outside Kansas City and was watching this movie from down in the Launch Control Center while on alert.
9 year old Ted talk on surviving a nuclear attack… 100% relevant in 2022.
This video is going to see a revival for sure.
The suitcase nuke was a scary reminder.
I just broke my girlfriends new MacBook, coming here for some advice. Just a heads up, estimated time of melt down and explosion is 30 min past Norwegian McDonald’s closing hour.
Did you survive?
@@thorrollosson i am working on it, the fallout is pretty severe.
@Mike Housego It was the first thing i tried, it actually came very natural, no training needed. Method is however flawed as it only works 2 times in the short span of a few seconds.
john johnesn You could always dump her and run.
Ha!
Hope you survived tho bro.
I was married to a nuclear physicist. Who said none of the "50's suggestions for it are viable anymore. If you go underground now and a nuclear bomb, like they have today, explodes within a certain radius, you'll be melted to the ground and fried in place."
He also said that "the energy released in the first 3 seconds of a nuclear warhead exploding today (which was in 2017) is greater than the amount of energy in all the weapons of WW2, including the two atomic bombs that were exploded over Japan in 1945."
He said there were "no 'low-yield' nuclear weapons."
He was awfully grim about it.
He's right. The kiloton loads we use now are non survivable.
@Joe Sawyer Me? He left me.
that's true, but he was rather talking about nuclear terrorists assuming they wouldn't have 'state of the art' nuclear bomb
@@VickiBee his loss then
I'm revisiting because of the current situation with Rus. Who else 🙋🏽♀️
It's not a situation, and they say it's a war, it's an invasion of a democratic country by a fascist dictator
you can't ask anyone to give up their nuclear arsenal.
USA : please give up your nuclear weapons and denuclearize.
France : Okay, you first.
Russia : no.
Uk : okay, right after you.
China : what?
India : i wish it was that simlple but pakistan got nukes
Pakistan : wallah, india started first
Israel : you should all give up nukes, but we need some for our legitimate defense
Commie Korea : we denucrearize when capitarism endsu, or versus billion dollars
Germany : Frankreich Nuklear arsenal is the property of das Europeanunion, so nein!
France & UK would never say that
@HarryMonmouth As they have done over the Brexit
I'm from the UK and it's very quickly becoming a complete police state. Politicians are all corrupt and cowardly.
I'm moving to Canada it's that bad, paying taxes in the UK is paying for your own demise, it's completely mental.
The only country to have voluntarily given up nuclear weapons is South Africa. Ukraine might be a close second, but that is technically a different case, as Ukraine was part of the USSR, and the nukes on their territory were Soviet, not Ukranian property. In theory, the Ukranians could have refused to give the Soviet nukes back to Russia, but that wouldn't have ended well for them.
@@argeltal9187 Canada is worse.
I’m British so if we had the 4 minute warning we wouldn’t have enough time for one last bloody cup of tea 😂
The most English thing I’ve read today
Funny😅
hey guys welcome back
"I know not with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones"
Albert Einstein said that ironic for the man who played a hand in the manhattan project, don't you think?
Einstein was not involved in the Manhattan Project. What he did was write a letter in 1939 to President Roosevelt, telling him that Germany was working on atomic projects and may be the first to make an atomic bomb. Hitler, though showed very little interest in the project
wrong again Albert !
He was charismatic, not smart. He was good at getting crowds to listen to him, but when it comes to listening to his military advisors telling him to not do dumb shit (Start a war wit Russia) he was pretty bad at it.
Tawz, let me rephrase that...He was insane, a drug addicted lunatic with syphilis that was untreated. This led to him being perceived as misguided, to say the least. He went a bit off task, wouldn't you agree?
18:50 "hurricane like wind". The larger nukes will also give you a vacuum wave after the pressure wave. You get the flash burn a few seconds before the pressure wave.
The presenter ridiculed the Civil Defense training of the 60s and then literally said exactly what the civil defense training of the 60s taught.
The duck and cover thing isn't all that ridiculous when you consider that some victims of Hiroshima/Nagasaki were saved simply because they wore an extra layer of clothing, which blocked more thermal radiation, reducing the severity of burns to their bodies. Where others with thinner layers of clothes had much more severe burns. So simply getting out of the line of sight of the blast can be enough to at least mitigate the thermal damage. And better yet, if you're in a ditch or the like, the pressure wave won't have quite as severe an effect on you as it won't make direct contact.
Of course you can survive a nuclear attack, and the aftermath of fallout. Air burst radiation is minimal, and has a very short half-life (less than a week). A significant number of scientists argue that nuclear winter is overblown, especially since the modern reduction in arsenals. If most of the likely weapons were used, direct blast and thermal damage is a very tiny percentage of the earth's surface area. But it would be prioritized to a our major towns and support systems. Surviving the collapse of society in an all out exchange will be the real challenge. Oddly enough, the reduction in our arsenals has rendered" assured destruction" down to "somewhat survivable", and it appears the world is treating it as such lately!
I was raised just outside of a SAC base, so definitely a target. I'll never forget doing a duck and cover drill when my desk was right next to a wall of window glass. Now that's thinkin'
We ducked and covered in the hallway for our disaster drills in the 80's.
@@Santa-614 Boil in the bag ( body)
Actually, the U.S.A. has been hit with around 900 nuclear weapons. Exploded above ground in Nevada in the 1950's and 60's. Nevada survived.
What
You are mistaken. Most of the Nevada tests were *underground.* 100 atmospheric, 921 underground. (per Atomic Heritage Foundation website, Nevada Test Site)
Still, that is a lot of above ground tests.
@@marysueeasteregg Thanks for the info. I suppose the 100 atmospheric were in Nevada, apparently more were elsewhere in the U.S. : "1,054 tests by official count (involving at least 1,149 devices). 219 were atmospheric tests as defined by the CTBT.' - re atomic testing in the U.S.; Wikipedia. So the U.S. was only hit with 219 nuclear devices.
14:50 That is NOT Alexandr Lebed. The man with the suitcase is former Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA). The man sitting to his right (our left) is former Congressman Dan Burton (R-IN). Weldon made improving relations with post-Soviet Russia a major theme of his tenure in Congress.
Sooner or later, they must abandon that dream....like now?.
My father bought 22.5 heavily wooded acres & built his 1,850 sq ft blast/fallout shelter ,by 1963 he had poured a 12 ft thick basement slab over top the 12 ft thick shelter walls & roof & finished building a basement reinforced so heavily will poured interior walls that the 2,800 SQ ft house cannot collapse into the basement ,he installed a 25kw generator that runs off home fuel oil & drilled a 380 ft deep well that's separate from the main house well ,he put in two 300 gallon fuel oil tanks directly in the basement which was code until the 80s and he built block houses around the tanks to protect them from rubble ,I should note that he had the foresight to build deep enough to create 12 ft high basement ceilings ,he created a septic feild for the shelter will hand cranked fresh water for hygiene and what he called the " sump room ,in the back of the shelter he sunk a septic holding tank beneath the shelter and built basically an outhouse over it ,he stocked powdered lye ,if plumbing went down we would have opened his gasketed toilet seat ,popped and thrown a scoop of lye over our fecees to prevent disease ,he even installed 4 hand cranked air filters in case power went down .
I can remember giving the real estate appraisal kid a tour of the family home after both parents passed away & he called the police & turned me in because he was frightened that my father built an armory and stocked it will firearms ,many being pre NFA automatics that his father had bought for peanuts from police force auctions in the 1920s ,I ended up buying the house from the family & we converted the shelter into a functional home theater and mother inlaw apartment ,in 2009 my wife & I spent $35,000 replacing the 30 year old food with various shelf life foods where our 1st 2 years we could feed all 16 family members a gourmet dinner every night with lunches being high quality canned meals ,after 2 years our meals would consist of military MRE's from around the world ,we even have 10 cases of French MRE's which contain extremely high calorie & protien goose liver ,we can live for 5 years before we even have to tap into the beans & rice ,very few people outside the family even know about our shelter ,the millennials we've had over to watch movies in the theater don't even realize they are in a nuclear shelter ,my dad was very inventive ,the 3,100 pound blast door is a pocket door that slides inside an opening in the wall ,once shut from the inside 6 hydrolic arms fold out & are used like a car jack to engage the door tightly to it's outer gasket my dad cleverly made himself using Okem ,as long as I keep the okem oiled it's gasket ability is like new ,I hope we never have to use it but we're located in a manufacturing state Russia is sure to attack .
Wow. Much more than I ever dreamed of doing.
On the 8th day
I hope this is true. If so, you are a wise and fortunate person.
Weird.
...is youtube algorithm telling me something?
I was one of those kids ducking for cover in school back in the early 60's. I grew up terrified about this and now I'm not sure people even think about it much but it's just as likely today. We'd rather obsess about people created dramas and short term problems instead of working to remove nuclear weapons from the world. This is the main extinction level problem we face, not comets, not asteroids, not immigration or poltical parties fighting over control. This is highly more likely that everything else in the short term.
PUTIN , is bringing back the monster , many thought the monster was dead .
@@Jay-vr9ir I was a submariner on a Trident boat (Ohio class) 1999 to 2003. We did not think the monster was dead. We were very much on a nuclear hair trigger and still are.
You can't really not be on a hair trigger. Let's say we made it so you have to go through Congress to launch nukes. Well, you only have a few minutes once the other side launches. What if a crazy President like Trump gives the order, you say? The military would refuse to follow the order as Russia and China would not have launched. We are obligated to ignore illegal orders.
"remove nuclear weapons from the world"
Just ask Vlad Putin nicely, and point out how it's good for humanity, I'm sure he'll agree...
I also remember "playing" duck and cover in school under my desk in the early '60s. There was also a poster in the classroom showing enemy jets in attack mode.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
Plato(?)
No Plato did say it
Men tire of wine, women,and song but never war-Homer
_war what is it good for, absolutely nothin_ edwin starr
My sister was taking the required physical health class in college, and he covered nuclear attack and how to survive it, which was not covered in my class 4 years before. After he went through all the horrors & explains what the world would be like in a MAD world of 1985 he then turns to the class and asked, But would you really want to survive it? Probably not, and you should probably pray that you are within the destruction zone. What a truthful instructor! My sister felt at the time she had no children and was not married, yet I, on the other hand, had said no, we should try to survive and continue civilization, I had no children and was not married yet. Today, my sister will give anything to survive anything, she has 4 children, 2 grandchildren, and they are her world, she would try to survive and hope and pray they do, because she wants to see them have a future, no matter what it is. I would not want to survive, I do not have a family. Wasn't my luck, so I wouldn't be leaving anyone behind and I wouldn't want to see the carnage and destruction. I know my skills would be very important, but then you start to feel guilty. Could be of service, I know my husbands skills would be of service, do we have a right to choose that we would not want to survive, could we choose that we don't go somewhere safe, you won't know until something happens, that's the whole key to it, just like those people on the Poseidon adventure, I'm sure some people didn't want to try and make it through. But they tried anyway, and found they were of service in some way in getting the others out even if they didn't make it. You don't know how important you are to the scheme of life until you're needed. Let's just hope none of us are called to find out.
Who's wants to die of radiation ☢️ sickness. Plus living in the Stone Age. No law and order. Go out with the blast 💥.
I am so happy I am childfree, I can't imagine how would I handle this entire shitshow if I had kids. My heart goes out to all parents, trying to keep it totgether for their little ones.
@@Kif_Lee You would most likely be dead. Wouldn't put too much thought 💭 on it.
i am a Health Physics (radiation safety) tech,and have worked at over 75 refuelings outages. We spent a lot of time discussing this topic.What will kill you after a nuclear attack is #1 breakdown of the infrastructure #2 other very desperate survivor's . Have 60 days supplies, ina good shelter....you will survive. Have 2 years of seed,and you'll be a hero.
@@Kif_Lee I'm child free too!I have a beautiful great niece of 18 months and i'm very worried for her future.Some of my friends were always telling me that i'll regret for not having children.I didn't regret and as the time goes by i think i made the right desition.The world of today is in deep serious problems!
“Humans had always been better at killing than any other living thing.”
― Dmitry Glukhovsky, Metro 2033
BLAIR M Schirmer that’s not nearly long enough of a time to say we are in a peaceful time we are merely in a time in between inevitable clashes
that's a terrible quote. In other news water is wet.
@@NOUSERNAMESLEFTFUUCK duly noted~
microbes?
@@genericwhitemale6089 even from them cause.. anti-microbes are made by humans
It’s not a matter of if but when it’ll happen.
Always keep a small folding desk with you. Good for any situation.
Yes, move downwind in the direction of where the radioactive particles are travelling...well done comrade.
Plainly Mr. Redlener misspoke. We all can infer from his statement's context that moving upwind or cross wind is the objective.
He doesn't explain the 2 different basic harms from a nuclear blast very well: Gamma radiation is the initial wave and it goes through basically everything except heavy lead panels (but it is lessened by layers of "stuff" between you and the blast). Those who can shield their bodies totally with lead (Xray Lab tech?) or can get 3-4 feet of earth between you and the blast will be safest. But it's so fast that largely there is little to be done about the gamma rays, unless you have prior warning. It is pretty instantaneous I believe. The next to contend with is the fallout, and that is where the major life saving measures really come into play that he's talking about here.
+Liora P very little can be done to help someone who is absorbing 50 rads per hour.
Ken this is my question...let's say you are 20 or 30 or 50 miles away from the blast....far enough away that the gamma rays would not hurt you, but you need to stay safe from the fallout. Nothing to be done about the blast unless you have special materials or an underground shelter...or plenty of forewarning. But plenty to be done about avoiding the fallout!
You are right Ken at 50 rads per hour a person would have a lethal dose in 2 hrs.
Liora P this seminar is for lay people, not experts, I think it’s dumbed down on purpose
Kinda. The Energy Scale rates the numbers and amount of damage. Fallout lasts longest, but the energy and Overpressure are the main purpose for use.
He needs to do another one for today
He may be too late.😢
I don't know if he's crazy or im Mr Negative but the odds that you will survive the explosion, the heat, radiation and fallout, with rogue masses of people pillaging. How are you going to eat, don't forget you'll probably be sick to your stomach from the beginning of radiation sickness? I think I'll go with the few seconds it takes to be vaporized.
Duck and cover is actually fairly rational. Sure, the odds of surviving a low yield tactical weapon detonated nearby are negligible, but the odds of surviving a Hydrogen bomb kilometers away are not. And they are much better if you are away from windows which could burn you or shatter and slice you, and under a desk which can prevent falling debris from being lethal.
It's October of 2016 and America does not have Fall out shelters accessible by the public anywhere.
johnny30806 True. .unless a citizen has one ..or if you know were a old shelter is from the 1950s to 80s ,then is it stocked up and still able to survive the blast and fallout..
Actually, find someone that has lived in your area since 60's or 70's.They probably will remember where they are. I am in my 40's and know where a bunch are in my area.
+AKillerTuna - True, but the point of the video is surviving SIMPLE nuclear weapons like ISIS could make. Those megaton motherfuckers are not simple.
Just trying to help the guy out. I have plans for most scenarios. If it one of them high yeild Kiloton bastards, just gonna stand outside and kiss my ass good bye...lol Im surrounded by 5 military instalations. Gauranteed target
unless the megaton bomb is drop right on top of your head, why wouldnt be possible to survive explosion/attack in megaton magnitude? are you talking about short term or long term (month and more)?
I bartended for a long time and one bar I worked at I had a couple of special forces guys that were regulars both were really great guys and great tippers, one day while they were there I had 2 other customers that were talking about how much ammo and food they had for a disaster and after a while one of the special forces guys leans over and tells them “don’t forget to save the last bullet for yourself” in meaning that in case of something like a nuclear attack, if you survive; the fallout and other people are going to be just as dangerous and you might find yourself in a situation where the most humane thing to do for yourself is to just end it
Which is what M.A
D. POINTS OUT .NUKE WAR IS SUACIDE
Well, that's one way of lowering the cost of living in Manhattan.
“Living”
That Saturn 1 in the background is awesome!
It is worth noting that before 1963 there were over 500 atmospheric tests of nuclear weapons in the world.
I know it is not the primary focus of this talk, but there is little discussion of what actually happened in the late 1980s to 1990s to “lessen” the likelihood of an all-out civilization-ending nuclear war. It is still a remarkable threat 30 years later. It should also be noted that “all-out nuclear warfare” involves the simultaneous launching of literally thousands of warheads using a command and control system that does not allow an order to return or cease to take place. The “civilization ends” over a period of time when the inevitable resulting firestorms deposit billions of tons of sunlight-blocking soot and fallout particles in the upper atmosphere where they are at an altitude that makes them too high to be washed out by rainfall. “Nuclear winter” takes place and mankind cannot grow enough food to survive.
Therefore “all-out nuclear war” is STILL the most devastating “Sword of Damocles” hanging over mankind…although we rarely discuss it as a country. Perhaps this will change as a result of the Ukraine war.
Civil Defense plans were hardly ridiculous. If you're outside that 1-2 mile radius, getting under the desk or in the shelter will probably save your life. This is especially true in the 1950s in a time when bombs were low-yield and had to be dropped by planes and not missiles.
He makes a few good points but I found it highly inaccurate the way he used an air burst model to show a simulation of a ground-based detonation in New York. The two blasts are extremely different in effects. In terms of fallout, it will be a fair bit heavier locally with a ground based detonation than with an air burst as more material and top soil would be carried up by the mushroom cloud to rain down as toxic death later but in a ground blast, half of the blast is absorbed by the ground underneath it at the time of detonation and the rest dissipates as the blast wave travels horizontally and encounters structures and the part of the wave that travels straight up just dissipates in the air thus the radius of the blast is significantly smaller and for those further away and shielded by intervening structures and terrain, 90% of the initial high-intensity gamma burst will be also absorbed before it reaches them. In an air burst, the gamma rays come directly down and thus hit everything not under the cover of a significant amount of material the same way sun rays get you unless you have something directly over your head. An air burst also creates a secondary blast wave as part of the blast bubble travels straight down, reflects from the surface and travels outwards along the path of primary. The spot where these two blast waves meet is known as a mach stem. Its essentially a double wave traveling together. More energy and damage for the same amount of power. Optimum detonation height for the size of bomb a terrorist would use is likely to be around 1000ft.
Agreed. A ground blast within the confines of sky scrapers would be relatively contained. Assuming that whomever built the device was rudimentary, it would be a very low yield high radiation mess. :-|
Sly Fox please educate me, I watch too much tv.
I thought there was an instant EMP that takes out cars and the power grid? can you list effects and time frame of EMP and any other overlooked issues?
thanks
thanks
I heard that in some nuclear reactor, a few feet of concrete stops the radiation released very well, so the concrete in skyscrapers can probably absorb a lot of the deadly radiation.
TH-cam recommending this to me during the Ukraine v. Russia conflict is both astounding and terrifying.
Let's see. Move over a mile away in ~20 minutes. This after experiencing the concussion of a nearby nuclear blast. So you're already disoriented. Now add that the roads are likely covered with the debris flung out from the blast, with many roads and bridges damaged or destroyed, it's not likely many would traverse that distance in that short a period of time.
@HMSBlackPrince Will it be a plasma rifle on top of a bio energetic stool type of death?
Ducking and covering is free, easy to learn and very effective. Its critics assume you will be exactly at ground zero; you probably won't be. Its critics assume the US and Russia will fire 10 000 warheads each; that's not true, most are not assembled or ready to go and many are in various states of decommisioning and many will not launch as silos are destroyed. It's critics assume that most nukes are multi-megaton weapons, most are 100-200 kT. Its critics don't understand the effects of nuclear weapons.
Ducking makes you a much smaller target for shrapnel such as broken glass windows and the velocity of the blast wind needs to be 4 times higher to toss you. Burns reduce survival chances and use valuable resources and care; reducing the extent of burns is important. The majority in a nuclear attack is not at ground zero
You are 100% correct. This guy makes fun of duck and cover and then near the end he says to get down and seek cover.
Blindness due to staring at the blast.
@@mikecimerian6913 Duck and Cover also helps prevent blindness which in turn increases survival odds.
It also prevents the pressure change from causing your lungs to explode.
one thing you don't want to get in an environment with radioactive dust is second or third degree burns. That would end really badly in terms of infection and radioactive particles in your bloodstream.
Aaand here we are in 2022 feeling like 1962
duck and cover is usefull because the blast streem is significantly stronger a few feet above the ground.
but it doesnt help if the light shines through your skull. thats really uncomfortable.
"but it doesnt help if the light shines through your skull" That's one helluva sentence good sir.
I actually have that experience. In the building somewhere in northern Europe I think, in a dream, I was walking down around hallway. It was not pleasant it just kept getting more and more bright and more and more white and more and more painful or intense.The next day the movie "the day after" was on television. It could've been a premonition which technically would have change the future so it might have prevented it from happening.
My ex-husband had a Ph.D in Nuclear physics. He also told me that if you start reading about the 2 key ingredients in making nuclear weapons "you'll spark the interest of ppl who make it their business to check you out. They're not especially nice people," he said "and you won't soon forget them if they pay you a visit."
He worked at Los Alamos Laboratories.
When the Cold War was at its height, I used to get nightmares f craning my neck up, up up, as a mushroom cloud rose over the village in which I lived, with the sick awareness that my world was about to end. However, I soon felt actual comfort from the fact that RAF Chicksands, a UK/US elint (electronic intelligence) listening station is located just 8 miles from the sleepy little village of Ickleford, where I live. Surely I would be vaporised in the first wave. Because I really wouldn't want to survive a nuclear exchange, because I don't see how the cork could ever be put back in the bottle once popped.
8 miles distance is right at a range where you would likely get badly hurt, but not killed in a 1 MT blast.
How to survive a nuclear attack:
*Don't start a nuclear war..... Simple*
Global Thermonuclear war, an interesting game, the only way to win is not to play. -Wargames computer.
*WHO ELSE IS HERE DURING the Ukrainian/Russian War?*
Can you come back and do an updated version of this if necessary.
This guy seemed to survive a nuclear apocalypse and is alive to give tutorials on how to survive them 💀💀
exactly.
no idea. at all
I was raised by pragmatists in Los Angeles. Knowing we would not survive the first wave was a blessing.
Depending on how far from center city. You are one of the 21 cities to be nuked but could survive.
@@buddymccloskey2809 TH-cam
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so sorry 😞
I wouldn't want to honestly.
I started planning in my mind.
Nature being destroyed is enough for me.
That's my happy place
Welp. Here we are 9 years later still dealing with this risk...
wtf WHY did this show up as a recommended video after I binged dozens of The Onion classics from 2008-2013...
TH-cam Algorithm. Whatever topic or subject you like the most, TH-cam tries to recommend you more of the content in your suggestions feed.
Looks like TH-cam has picked him for their darling. It will not get off my recommended list, maybe now that I've acted like I am watching it it'll go away?? No clue why I am seeing this video Fed to me.
Finally happening. Yasss!
One of his conclusions: “Nuclear war is much less likely than before, but by no means out of the question.” Given the current circumstances, this no longer entirely rings true.
Yes thank you youtube recommendations, this could not have come at a more opportune time
i remember going in to make up a test for chemistry and my teacher said "this school has enough chemicals to wipe out our town" and I was like "....oh"
But, does the school have plutonium? Probably not, because you can't just buy plutonium in any store. If they have it, they must have ripped it off from the Lybians. You need something with a little more kick to generate 1.21 Gigawats.
Probably for improvized nerve agents.
Step 1: Live close to city center
Step 2: Wait for nuke to go off
Step 3: "Guess I'll die"
As a parent I have to ask myself: "what was I thinking bringing kids into this world?"
When you have to deal with ww3 while taking care of kids😂
It has to be lead lined though.
That's why I won't have any kids
i think nukes will be obsolete in tze future seeing how air defense is improving
This is what people with an agenda want you to do. Look at Western birth rates
Thorium could in principle get rid of both the nuclear weapons and climate change problem: With a molten salt reactor (which is way safer than traditional reactors) we can use nuclear warheads as fuel for the reactors, downgrade the current nuclear waste, and reduce greenhouse gases emissions...
you would still need to decrease the enrichment percentage homogenously to avoid parts of your fuel going supercritical, and I'm not sure if it's as easy as enriching.
@@jackvernian7779 Surely is easier than dealing with climate change and terrorist threads...
This is what the Bible is referring in EZ 38
@@buddymccloskey2809 Say whaaaat!
Modern nuclear reactors are pretty much *the* safest method of power generation that we have. Even their waste is less damaging than fossil fuels.
There is a 2020 book out in the library "Rethinking Readiness", in which the introduction is by Irwin Redlener
I'm 65y/o, retired, asking questions, and wondering what happened to our world.
We need Gods help, all of us need Him!
I absolutely believe 100% in God and I absolutely believe 100% that he doesn’t and never will intervene in what we do to ourselves. That’s the blessing and the curse we were given. Complete self determination and the consequences thereof.
Did you vote Biden? Be honest?
@@ca6360 Because Trump would have stopped Putin? Or helped him?
Not happy about the USA withdrawing from the INF treaty.
Not happy about elements of the USA actively provoking Russia rather than co-operating with them.
Thank Hillary's projection of her collusion with Russia onto the Trump candidacy and Trump administration. Hillary produced a legendary display of hubris and diplomatic recklessness for selfish political gain.
@@michaelmagyar5734 Indeed, the Boltonites and Clintonites are acting outside the law, and against the interests of the American public. I'd agree that they're co-ordinating with foreign oligarchs and other rogue governments for anti-competitive, anti-democratic havoc and war-profiteering. They're expert gaslighters. th-cam.com/video/jl9s09LMp10/w-d-xo.html
@J G She did literally start the Russia rhetoric. Reality much?
Trump and Putin withdraw from the treaty and Hillary gets blamed. Maybe it's time for the whole shithouse to go up in flames. I'd just feel sorry for the children. They don't deserve to perish for the sins of the fathers.
@@vecchiosilvi And Russia withdrew after blatant violations of agreements regarding 'missile shields' that have been put up around Russia. The West is the Aggressor in the New Cold War and such aggression was ordained by the Obama Administration despite Hillary Clinton and her 'Russia Reset' as Foreign Sectary.
Yeah. Amma blame Hillary alright.
PS "time for the whole shithouse to go up in flames" stop being a defeatist brah. You're better than that.
Typographical Correction Needed:
At 4:33, you need a period after the "D" in the acronym "M.A.D.".
Hey thanks. I always wonder if you're supposed to add that period or if it was superfluous.
Contrary to popular opinion, "Duck and Cover" was and still is reasonable and helpful advice. In the event of a nuclear strike you will probably not know how powerful or distant it will be. You may very well be outside of the fireball and high pressure blast and thus have a chance of survival. At the edge of the blast wave there will be a large area where structures are still standing but windows are blown in. This glass and debris can cause serious injuries that may be avoided by duck and cover under a desk or other protection. The odds of survival in this situation are greatly reduced if you suffer burns or lacerations because radioactive particles can get in the wounds. But if you avoid such injuries and enter a fallout shelter at that point your odds of survival are pretty good. Duck and Cover is useful for protecting against cuts and associated increased risks from radiation sickness. It should not be interpreted to suggest that you could survive a fireball or high pressure wave strong enough to knock down buildings. Nevertheless, it is useful advice.
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True. It's like Stop Drop and Roll when catching fire. If you have Napalm on your body, that won't work, but for many fires it would work. Duck and Cover will protect your eyes and internal organs from debris damage. Of course, a direct hit over your neighborhood or a few miles above and away, that won't help, but outside the initial blast, you will have a better chance of survival. It's not like you know for certain when and where the bomb will hit.
I submit that you are way behind the science on this
No way could anyone get out of the financial district in 15 mins after a nuclear blast. What a mess it would be...
I would go deep into the subway system before I tried to get out of lower Manhattan.
Boats are the only option
@@BaronSaturday66 there would likely be no subway services after a ground level detonation
I would have to agree with boats. Going underground seriously limits your options if things get any worse (for one reason or another).
I would say that boats can be a slow process, of course depending on the type of boat. 15 minutes is such a short amount of time. Getting unanchored etc would have to be a speedboat and just pin it.
If anyone has a speedboat I'm your new bestie.
I@@victorymansions I'm going to buy a personal mini-sub with lots of cans of SPAM onhand
South Africa was also a member of the club until 94 when they became the first country to disarm voluntarily
A convenient and useful fact, the number of earthly nuclear detonations reached a total of 1989, by the year 1989
Doesn’t he mean upwind? Why run downwind and into the descending cloud?
Bob Swartz - - Bob, I was hearing what he was saying, and thinking the same thing. Shouldn’t it be: get UPWIND of the origin of the fallout cloud or crossways of it. Did we miss the meaning of his explanation?
I didn't understand it either. Even double checked the meaning of "downwind" as I'm not a native English speaker. If someone can clarify, would be much appreciated, as first thought would be go upwind, away from the fallout...
Just goes to show that this lecture is worthless as is the one giving it. The lecturer likes to hear the sound of his own voice, that's all.
I was a very active member of the Maryland Nuclear Weapons Freeze Campaign. We had a saying " In the event of an all out nuclear attack, the living will ENVY the DEAD! " 🤯🤯🤯
They weren't wrong in the old "Duck n Cover" cartoons: it will save some people and improves the chance of surviving, should they all have just kept writing their multiplication tables?
It was a way to keep hysteria from the masses during a dark time. That was it. There is no protection from a blast if you are in the area of effect under your desk. If you are outside the blast range, just staying in the building would do as much as hiding under the desk. I really don't understand people that actually thing being under a desk would even save anyone if in area of effect blast.
@HMSBlackPrince If you can survive a couple of months in a fallout shelter until food and water runs out, your chances of survival after that were pretty good. Life after a global thermonuclear war would be farming, hunting, and gathering with relatively short life expectancies. But humans survived for hundreds of thousands of years under similar harsh conditions and could eventually rebuild civilization.
I do get annoyed when people mock the 'duck and cover' type practices. The idea was to allow kids to avoid being burned and blinded in the initial atomic flash detonation or cut to pieces by flying window glass so they could at least get home and die with their families. NOBODY presented it as a final solution or anything like that and nobody thought so, but adults had just lived through a world war and knew exactly what a bomb explosion could do if you took no action whatsoever.
I have no desire whatsoever to survive any sort of nuclear war.
I'm confused. Go downwind? Doesn't that mean the radiation dust will flow your way?
@ConservativeAtheist NO, he is correct. UPWIND is the direction a wind is coming from. In this situation, the wind is originating from the blast area, the place where radiation would be concentrated. You do NOT want to travel upwind in this situation! You want to go downwind -- away from the where the wind is coming -- or (probably ideal) perpendicular to the wind.
Yes, go DOWNWIND. Upwind is the direction a wind is coming from. The wind will be originating from the blast site, where the radiation will be most concentrated.
You want to get as far away from the blast site as possible. Yes, radiation will be flowing your way even going downwind, but it will be less and less concentrated the further you get away from the blast site.
@ConservativeAtheist
We're agreed: YES, upwind does mean traveling away from the direction the wind will be blowing! Which is exactly what you do NOT want to do. You are describing traveling *into the wind* -- toward the wind's origin -- rather than traveling in the direction the wind is blowing (downwind), with the wind on your back. Traveling upwind after a nuclear blast -- traveling into the wind, rather than downwind, in the same direction the wind is blowing -- will bring you closer to the source of the radiation, and toward the source of firestorms.
Mirriam-Webster online: Definition of upwind: in the direction from which the wind is blowing
dictionary.com: upwind (adverb): toward or against the wind or the direction from which it is blowing
Cambridge Dictionary online: upwind: in the direction from which the wind is blowing
quoted from theweatherprediction.com:
"In meteorology, a wind direction is the direction the wind is coming from. For example, a Northwest wind is a wind flowing from Northwest toward Southeast. Upwind is the direction the wind is coming from. If the wind is blowing from the Northwest (blowing toward the Southeast) then the upwind direction is toward the Northwest and the downwind direction is toward the Southeast. In other words, if a person is moving upwind then they are moving against the wind and if a person is moving downwind they are moving with the wind."
As the speaker said: you want to move downwind, not upwind toward the blast site.
@ConservativeAtheist Sigh: I agree, you don't travel towards it. Perpendicular is ideal. (20:21)
“Chapter two of the nuclear threat era starts in 1991, when the Soviet union broke up we effectively lost that adversary as a potential attacker of the United States for the most part.” Looks like we are onto chapter three, folks!
Who in their right mind would want to survive what is to come, not me. I want out. Nothing will be worth trying to live for.
After the Soviet nuclear targets were released, it turns out that one of the targets was an industrial city that my family happened to live 5 miles from. My entire family and the rest of my area would’ve been obliterated and I wouldn’t even exist.
If you read the accounts of the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you would understand that 'Duck and Cover' would have saved many lives, as many of these atomic survivors were horrifically cut up by flying glass from the blast overpressure. To mock Civil Defense planners in the 50's and 60's for coming up with Bert the Turtle, to protect school children, by having them crawl under their desk and protect their face and torso, shows how little you people really understand about this.
In 1st and 2nd grade 1955 we were having drills where we ducked and covered under our school desks. They stopped in the 3rd grade because hiding under a school desk gave no protection what so ever.
The first Ted talk to NOT teach me anything.
Come on man!
And just where will you take that shower? Over in Patterson? Where will you get a new set of clothing? Walmart?
Whos watching this in 2022....
I got out of Brooklyn years ago. My family and I live on 20 remote acres up against the National Forest in Wyoming, with 2 years of supplies and fuel stored on site.
But I'm just a crazy prepper, right?
I think I'll just sip a Nuka Cola and soak up some alphas. Save the caps, though.
lol fallout.
lemme get some rad resist ill be ok its 640+ radiation resistance