As a South Tyrolian living abroad, this will save me so many headaches trying to explain our history, heritage and why it's not 'that simple'. Thank you guys, this is massive!
I'm a native South Tyrolean, so I *might be biased. If it sounds good, it is simply because it is good. 🤩Most of us natives (i.e. from families who have lived here since at least the time of the K.u.K.) do indeed speak all three languages. The Italians who moved here after WWII of course have some difficulties speaking either German or Ladin (but the same can be said about the Germans who moved here, who might have difficulties speaking either Italian or Ladin). Yes, from a legal perspective the "declaration of ethnicity" still exists (one has to decide whether one is "pure" German, Italian, or Ladin), but this usually affects more """"newcomers"""" than us natives. Some schools are still segregated on the basis of ethnicity, but in practice, most of us switch languages multiple times during any random conversation with friends & families.
I am currently travelling in South Tyrol and so it brings me to this video as I find the place very impressive in terms of infrastructures, quality of accommodations and food. Most of all, the beauty of its nature is top notch. It is so inspiring that this place has so much history and became one of the prosperous regions of Europe. Thanks South Tyrol and South Tyroleans for making our honeymoon a memory of a lifetime!
The best arrangement found given the circumstances. It shouldn't have been given to Italy back 100 years ago but once it happened people have to come to terms with new realities and learn to live together in peace and harmony. So, congratulations to the Italians that were flexible and compassionate with the Germans and Ladin groups and didn't smash their culture completely and created a system for all to flourish together.
Progress in civilisation looks pretty much in favour for a European unity that respects more autonomy for all of its regions while enjoying more international relevance through their mutuality.
This video has the feel of europropaganda developed by bureaucrats to paper over realities. I'm not from the region, so maybe things are as harmonious as the video claims. It would be great to hear from the ethnic German and Ladin peoples on their perspective.
Im from Austria and I know the region. Not in a single sentence they talked about the fact that many want to join Austria or that many are unhappy with the absolute state of Italian politics.
I'm from South-Tyrol and this video summarizes it well. Of course it isn't perfect but I and many friends of mine see themselfs more european than italian/austrian. I think with our autonomy we have it way better in italy than in austria. But we had to fight for it. I feel more connected to Trentino(the italian speaking region that was part of austria) than to the rest of austria.
@@woulkin6595Where did you get that from? We have it better in italy with our autonomy. There is a political party who wants to "reunite" with austria but it is far from the most powerful one, even if we only consider the german speaking population
independence is unlikely given the town's small size, but autonomy to develop it's language, culture and economy would be a good thing. South Africa would do well to entrench federalism and power sharing rather than the highly centralized model. A plural executive as found in Switzerland with parties represented by proportion of votes would be beneficial to SA.
I'm a native South Tyrolean. If it sounds good, it is simply because it is good. 🤩Most of us natives (i.e. from families who have lived here since the time of the K.u.K.) do indeed speak all three languages. The Italians who moved here after WWII of course have some difficulties speaking either German or Ladin (but the same can be said about the Germans who moved here, who might have difficulties speaking either Italian or Ladin). Yes, from a legal perspective the "declaration of ethnicity" still exists (one has to decide whether one is "pure" German, Italian, or Ladin, but this usually affects more """"newcomers"""" than us natives. Some schools are still segregated on the basis of ethnicity, but in practice, most of us switch languages multiple times during any random conversation with friends & families.
@@didonegiuliano3547 you see the fact is that south tyroleans are not immigrants, they were taken by force and forcing them to give up their culture would be no better than france invading italy and forcing french culture on them. That's what fascists do. Maybe italy should intagrate into south tyrol instead ;)
What happened to Prussia, czech germans, polish germans, volga germans if you think Mussolini was nasty. And the Hapsburgs moved south. Bit of ethnic cleansing there. Not ever part of Austria. Ladin is not germanic. My dna is made up of german, nth italian/furlan and slovene. My name is a dolomite name that is hundreds of years old. Note. The Italians have always had a presence on the Istrian/dalmatian coast from the Roman Empire to the Venetians.
As a South Tyrolian living abroad, this will save me so many headaches trying to explain our history, heritage and why it's not 'that simple'. Thank you guys, this is massive!
I'm a native South Tyrolean, so I *might be biased. If it sounds good, it is simply because it is good. 🤩Most of us natives (i.e. from families who have lived here since at least the time of the K.u.K.) do indeed speak all three languages. The Italians who moved here after WWII of course have some difficulties speaking either German or Ladin (but the same can be said about the Germans who moved here, who might have difficulties speaking either Italian or Ladin). Yes, from a legal perspective the "declaration of ethnicity" still exists (one has to decide whether one is "pure" German, Italian, or Ladin), but this usually affects more """"newcomers"""" than us natives. Some schools are still segregated on the basis of ethnicity, but in practice, most of us switch languages multiple times during any random conversation with friends & families.
Couldn’t have put it any better
@@claudiopeli2774 Thank you! 😀
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I am currently travelling in South Tyrol and so it brings me to this video as I find the place very impressive in terms of infrastructures, quality of accommodations and food. Most of all, the beauty of its nature is top notch. It is so inspiring that this place has so much history and became one of the prosperous regions of Europe. Thanks South Tyrol and South Tyroleans for making our honeymoon a memory of a lifetime!
Thanks for this feedback!
The administrative process and power sharing sound very similar to Switzerland... German, French, Italian.
There might be some similarities, yes.
Meanwhile in Elsass and Lothringen... oups, I mean Alsace-Lorraine
Nationalism and its consequences have been a disaster for the European Space.
Elsass and Lothringen are beautiful names, they sound very fairytale and elvishlike. They should revive those names.
The best arrangement found given the circumstances. It shouldn't have been given to Italy back 100 years ago but once it happened people have to come to terms with new realities and learn to live together in peace and harmony. So, congratulations to the Italians that were flexible and compassionate with the Germans and Ladin groups and didn't smash their culture completely and created a system for all to flourish together.
Progress in civilisation looks pretty much in favour for a European unity that respects more autonomy for all of its regions while enjoying more international relevance through their mutuality.
This is a very good film, thank you. I will be making a short documentary about South Tirol, how can I get in touch with you?
Thank you! Just write us an email: info@autonomyexperience.org
This video deserves more views
Good until the Arabic part
Sounds like a promotional film, but I hope it is all accurate.
As a Southtyrolean, I can confirm it is accurate. Off course we have some problems, but that has nothing to do with us being in italy or not.
Nice little video.
Interesting
This video has the feel of europropaganda developed by bureaucrats to paper over realities. I'm not from the region, so maybe things are as harmonious as the video claims. It would be great to hear from the ethnic German and Ladin peoples on their perspective.
Im from Austria and I know the region. Not in a single sentence they talked about the fact that many want to join Austria or that many are unhappy with the absolute state of Italian politics.
I'm from South-Tyrol and this video summarizes it well. Of course it isn't perfect but I and many friends of mine see themselfs more european than italian/austrian.
I think with our autonomy we have it way better in italy than in austria. But we had to fight for it.
I feel more connected to Trentino(the italian speaking region that was part of austria) than to the rest of austria.
@@woulkin6595Where did you get that from? We have it better in italy with our autonomy.
There is a political party who wants to "reunite" with austria but it is far from the most powerful one, even if we only consider the german speaking population
Das fantastique bellisimo
Love this film, I'm from South Africa, I hope Orania will get independence one day.
Never heard of that little place
independence is unlikely given the town's small size, but autonomy to develop it's language, culture and economy would be a good thing. South Africa would do well to entrench federalism and power sharing rather than the highly centralized model. A plural executive as found in Switzerland with parties represented by proportion of votes would be beneficial to SA.
Sounds like state propoganda. Sounds too good. Have the Italian immigrants integrated and learnt the native language. That for me is the real test.
7:36 It explicitly states schools teach two languages to students.
Their children will be bilingual, or sometimes even trilingual.
It’s Italy now, they should integrate into the italian culture
I'm a native South Tyrolean. If it sounds good, it is simply because it is good. 🤩Most of us natives (i.e. from families who have lived here since the time of the K.u.K.) do indeed speak all three languages. The Italians who moved here after WWII of course have some difficulties speaking either German or Ladin (but the same can be said about the Germans who moved here, who might have difficulties speaking either Italian or Ladin). Yes, from a legal perspective the "declaration of ethnicity" still exists (one has to decide whether one is "pure" German, Italian, or Ladin, but this usually affects more """"newcomers"""" than us natives. Some schools are still segregated on the basis of ethnicity, but in practice, most of us switch languages multiple times during any random conversation with friends & families.
@@didonegiuliano3547 you see the fact is that south tyroleans are not immigrants, they were taken by force and forcing them to give up their culture would be no better than france invading italy and forcing french culture on them. That's what fascists do.
Maybe italy should intagrate into south tyrol instead ;)
My family was from here
We left because are schools forced use to speak Italian
Good!
@@colors6692 Erasing ones culture is not "good" and there's a word for that...
What happened to Prussia, czech germans, polish germans, volga germans if you think Mussolini was nasty. And the Hapsburgs moved south. Bit of ethnic cleansing there.
Not ever part of Austria. Ladin is not germanic. My dna is made up of german, nth italian/furlan and slovene. My name is a dolomite name that is hundreds of years old. Note. The Italians have always had a presence on the Istrian/dalmatian coast from the Roman Empire to the Venetians.
South Tyrol is not Italy.
Cry about it
Trentino is not South Tyrol.
cope harder
south tyrol is europe
Nicht Italien
Doch
interesting propaganda.
why propaganda?