Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Current Atmosphere in Afghanistan 04:27 The Incompetence of Western Leaders 15:36 What’s Happening to the UK? 19:53 Do Politicians Only Care About London? 33:06 The UK’s Biggest Problems 37:26 Should We Be Worried About Free Speech? 45:37 How Bad is Extreme Poverty in 2024? 51:38 The Pitfalls of Organised Charities 58:02 Why Poverty Hasn’t Improved in Africa 1:03:23 How Effective Altruism Impacted Charity 1:07:23 Where to Find Rory
your guest: I perceive him as a strange chess figure. quite naive, a proponent of mass influx of ideological incompatible people who actually erect a second juridical system; a parallel law system. everyone with 3 braincell can predict what happens to our juridical system as soon the 'other fraction' makes up 50% of society. very disapointing guest you invited and it is also disappointing that you did not challenge him.
oops meant to put this here, '' his analogy of a good school teacher arriving at a badly run school..... lets have a little think about that. he is of course a teacher, and the public are of course his pupils/ the people he is governing. blaiming it all in incompetence and systemic failings is yet another obfuscation. his attitude to us the public are that he is in charge and knows better and can enforce power over us to make us learn what needs to be learnt. i would suggest instead, the system is working perfectly, the incompetence isnt a bug its a feature, we didnt accidentally invade afghanistan and iraq, it wasnt oh oh oh... oops invaded a couple of countries that will be a quagmire for decades, silly me. the people have been spinning and fizzing with anger because even 20 years ago people like myself knew it would be a quagmire. we have to assume any opportunity for our governments to increase their power and control over us will be taken. we arent being governed so much as we are being corraled and coerced and brainwashed into traps that make us beg for more government control. '' crime is bad we need more camera''..... crime is bad we need id cards''.... crime is bad we need facial recognition'' so here we are today, all major news outlets say that peace marches are hate marches. that being humane is supporting terrorism. you can watch a tv thats upside down, if you sit upside down on the sofa, and you will get used to it, and you will blame immigrants that you cant drink tea while watching tv anymore. and the deep flaws in this logic/mindset, will be deemed woke or maga, or sometimes both at the same time until you just give up thinking.
The “humiliation” of the failures in Afghanistan did not cause the public to lose faith in government. Rather, its was the same corruption and incompetence which caused the failure in Afghanistan being seen here at home. The real lesson of Afghanistan is that the same people who were in charge of nation building there for twenty years have been in charge of nation building across the West for even longer. Once you understand that, you understand why everything is a mess and no one trusts the government anymore.
Sick of people who have been deeply involved in politics calling UK/US/NATO operations in places like Iraq and Afghanistan "failures". The billions of dollars went somewhere. They went out of taxpayers' hands to weapons manufacturers, military equipment manufacturers, private security contractors, reconstruction contractors and many more entities. Look at where many US politicians and advisers (and probably UK ones too) who make the decisions to go to war invest their money. You will see that these operations were HUGELY SUCCESSFUL in transferring public funds into private hands. The chaos caused and perpetuated by these so-called "failed" military operations is hugely profitable. We are not all idiots born yesterday.
One of the few intelligent observations on this podcast. Absolutely agree, look AT warmongerer Dick Cheney in the U. S. A. previously in hierarchy of Haliburton weapons manufacturer.
Very good point, very well presented!!! It was NEVER about winning or success and always about having a profitable target to keep people afraid of and demonised and a justification for unlimited wreckless killing and destruction and Money laundering! They dont give a flying f..k about 'success' or winning!!! It's not even a consideration!!!
Of course if a trillion dollars was sucked out of the US it would have collapsed. Yes some of it went into bullets and shells which were sprayed around a desert somewhere, but as you point out, the vast majority returned to the US in terms of servicemen's pay, profits for the weapons producers etc etc.
@@FilipinaVeganaTry asking a question instead of putting words and thoughts in peoples minds and mouths. Give it another go, also Rory was a Conservative MP, so do you know anything about him?
@@FilipinaVegana This man was a Conservative minister. You seem to be completely clueless, please do stay mute and not spread your ignorance. I thank you on behalf of humanity.
Rory, it's not "hatred of Muslims" from the British public. It's a recognition that orthodox, traditional Islam as a set of beliefs are diametrically opposed to many of the fundamental values we have in the west and those beliefs are causing major problems across Europe. As was shown in your interview with Sam Harris, you are completely blind to this demonstrable fact because you know nice people who follow that religion. Well most of us know nice people who follow the religion but that doesn't stop us seeing what's going on with grooming gangs and terror attacks and the desire of large swathes of UK Muslims wanting to live under a sharia tyranny. You are totally disconnected from reality because you live in a rich bubble.
@@stephencusack1675 In 2001 it was 2.7%. That's a rapid expansion. 6% is enough to introduce sectarianism into our political landscape. That is not a good thing.
Rory has lost the plot, he's absolutely out of touch - see how he doesn't understand the riots and the impacts of Globalisation and Mass Immigration on the working class. Lost the plot...
@@JDRacing-j2vNo. He means Rory is out of touch, in regards to the causes and feelings about the issues we have. Which sparked, and may spark further civil unrest.
he understands, he is just paid to confuse medium to llow educated. theres probably a technique were he uses one obscure word to the medium educated every hour versus 5 every hour for low educated, that way he covers the whole picture in respectable confusion. '' well i dont know how we ccould have invaded afghanistan and achieved nothing in 20 years''.... well i do, i think most informed people knew, pretty sure we had marches and everything. 2002 was the year of the phrase... '' not without a UN second resolution .......unless theres an unreasonable veto''
Guys completely disconnected…he understands more about the Afghans problems and the poor Africans than the British people while saying they deserve free money and we should all put up and shut up because we are just lost and angry…meanwhile we kell giving charity to poor African nations who’s population keeps on growing by choice of their parents who keep having children…meanwhile our birth rate is declining and there are huge systemic problems in this country…Guy is a typical case of a good hearted, compassionate, educated person who’s been completely disconnected from normal UK life and just spews liberal agenda whether it is wrong or right…god this country is a joke
the new job of politicians especially the modern cosmopolitan globalist type is to keep the native population off center by creating resentment between groups. they do this by preferring some groups over others completely overtly.
Charitable donations should reach the people that money is intended for. Instead the charities administering money pay out huge sums of money to private companies.Charitable donations can be stolen by so many people when beaurocracy is involved. Giving the money to people in need directly makes more sense.
I'm wondering how he thinks Afghan is safe, after talking about public executions. Europe will end up completely right-wing as the crimes increase, and there will be zero sentiment for any more third-world aid.
@@MargaretDeakin-d6m Everyone knows most charity is syphoned off long before it does any good for the people it's intended for. I knew someone who worked on lottery grant applications, the company applying took half the money, how many more down the line take a slice.
Really in depth conversation. Rory should have been PM instead of Johnson. I’m no Tory. But have always liked his empathy and his enormous reservoir of knowledge on world history and politics. He has vision and a true understanding of what should happen. He was treated badly during that awful Johnson/ Truss era. And I believe he’s a real asset to this country and globally, thankfully many are now listening to him. I find him fascinating especially his early life and Afghan walks. I must watch your channel now that I’ve found it on here. Thank you. Your Stockton days, my partner is from Blackhall Colliery, we live in London. But we have spent time there over the past 25 years, do you get back very often? I love the coastline, but many of those villages have been left and ignored by central government. The levelling promises all failed to materialise.
Afghanistan was a failure? You don't understand anything. Afghanistan was an absolute home run. Generational wealth was created for a handful of defense contractors. That was the goal. And it was a smashing success.
The problem with the UK is that our parliament is totally unrepresentative of the wishes of the people. We've had decades of effective gerrymandering to prevent the people having a direct say on the issues about which we are most concerned. The one time we did get a direct vote (on Brexit - itself an indication of how much the elites are utterly deluded about what the people want) the likes of Rory moved heaven and earth to destroy our negotiating position. The current dysfunction is the result. We are the prime example of what happens to a culture when it is long overdue a revolution
I agree with everything you said, but I fear it's worse than that - Parliament has basically elevated itself above the law (it's own laws) with exceptions, special carve outs etc. they have become a law unto themselves.
There is zero content in this comment. It's just a bunch of buzz words that a Russian AI bot would string together to sow unrest. Even if you are a real person, there's literally no difference between you and an AI bot.
A prisoner in a USSR gulag is asked what he is there for. He says: I was a plumber, got called to fix pipes in Kremlin. I looked at the pipes and I said - the whole system here needs to change. Got 10 years hard labor.
He was an agitator in the rotten Brexit Parliament who threatened a coup on live TV ("I'll walk across to Westminster Hall and set up an alternative parliament"). *He* reminds me of what is most rotten about British Politics today. Too many children larping as grown ups.
Rory is part of the useless elite that runs things in the UK. Eton and Oxford. He's only ever worked for the government. He does not believe in democracy but in rule by technocrats. That is why he loved the EU.
I am British living in the Netherlands for the last 30 years and every time I go back to the uk, I can’t get over with how little has changed. The same roads same trains, a society stuck in a ramshackle house with no money to modernize. A huge contrast to tge Netherlands where infrastructure is continuously improving, companies expanding and improving living standards. Yes there are issues in the NL mostly coming from the EU. Hospitals, restaurants, shops, etc are generally staffed by Dutch people, why isn’t this possible in the uk.
As a European in the UK, my understanding is that the politicians are pretty substandard. They give off nice speeches but they fret doing the job. Don't get me wrong! it's not only the highest echelons of the government, it's everyone from the councils all the way up. The guys who are supposed to represent local communities leech off of them, instead of trying to better things around them. Hence, you never see any major change. They aren't fixing roads, pavements, nor asking for new infrastructure. The guys in the upper office are happy to do less since people aren't asking. To be a good politician you have to be willing to break some eggs and also be ready to do the work - which is usually immense paperwork, so if you are not smart and thorough you can easily say you are doing something but not actually follow through. Independent of being pro or against Brexit, this is what happened there.. the politicians came up with an idea, had people vote on it, when the results came through they showed how massively unprepared they were. And what did they do after? Nothing .. they just let the system crumble. A good idea or a bad idea doesn't matter. This was a significant change that they weren't ready for nor were able to execute ..and of course no one cares because they expect "time to heal all". Look at the state of the NHS! they haven't done a single adjustment to help the system function, they only talk about money..Mr Stewart talked about the issue himself. But look at his attitude..he essentially implied that he is able to make more changes in Africa by giving off money than to fight the system in the UK because "no one does it".. we don't care if no one does it, you should be making the change. Bring the issues forward, be the change. Having a conversation stating the fact doesn't do anything at all. I have nothing against the man, I just find his attitude demoralising.
No Rory those communities in the North didn't lose their mines, your lot took them away. Tories like you shut them and bought imported coal instead. For what? To win an argument from the 1970s with a union.
The Unions took their jobs. If some fat cat union boss, earning 5 times what a Prime Minister does, but because he and his minions keeps stealing from the union members so he keeps demanding more money, you'll eventually get to the point where it's no longer affordable. That's where we got to. Also Rory is no Conservative. He's just another globalist like his podcast chum Alastair Campbell.
Breaking the backs of the unions in that period gave the UK 30 years of prosperity that it would never have had otherwise. The problem with these areas is they expect someone to give them a living. They have a victim mentality
It's terribly sad, but there is no money in coal - when it is cheaper to import coal than mine it yourself then you have no reason to mine coal. We are going through the same nonsense right now - the UK government has paid an Indian company, Tata, £500m to keep the UK steel factories open. This is absolute madness, it's a dead industry and there is no competing with China on this. For context, Brazil which is rich in the Iron ore and has an excellent steel manufacturing industry buys about 50% of it's steel from China - that means it's exporting it's iron ore to China, paying China to manufacture the steel and then importing it back, and it's cheaper!
It's people like Rory that have got us to this position. He pretended to be a conservative which should involve believing in the nation state and borders, supporting free market capitalism and holding sensible traditional views on cultural issues. Like most others in the Conservative party he did nothing to advance those views but supported the same trendy, liberal, internationalist and green worldview as all other parties. Ultimately though we kept voting for people who said they were one thing but acted the opposite, maybe we share in the blame.
Absolutely. Here he is blaming misinformation and the lack of lockdown for causing Jan 6. It's exactly the opposite. The lockdown on these platforms both silenced actual fair dissent (such as Biden corruption with Ukraine) and created the atmosphere where even election results could not be trusted. Silencing dissent on covid, vaccines, government; the situation was completely out of hand with censorship and narratives for control. And now he is here trying to memory hole that.
It is safe but they have to travel accompanied by a man, as per the Taliban’s strict interpretation of Sharia law. It would be highly unusual for a woman to travel unaccompanied.
Rory angle : Look, women in Afghanistan dont get hurt in traffic accidents anymore, thats really good. Why ? Because they aren't allowed out of the house to drive.
A first world perspective. Average people don't care how the problem is solved they care about that it is solved. Every Government is 3 hot meals away from revolution people don't care as long as they have 3 hots and a cot they really do not question how they got those 3 hots and a cot. We failed in Afghanistan because democracy, human rights etc that does not feed people, keep them sheltered, provides security, you cannot feed people on feelings and ideas.
I feel the same. I wish he could have been more of a conservative voice when with him, instead it feels like he abandoned ship. But then, I don’t think Rory ever was right of centre.. more centrist left leaning these days.
It's kind of funny. Those two together is the epitome of how the upper class live in a completely different world to us mere plebs. I'm sure they believe these two have great, balanced opinions. But for the rest of us they miss the mark completely on many things.
I am pretty sure the Afghans and Iraqi people don't have the $3 trillion! Where did all that money go? Most ended up in the wallets of corporations and shareholders. War is a sly way to tax ordinary citizens and enrich those who profit from the death and destruction of wars. 90% of those who were slaughtered in Iraq and Afghanistan were civilians!!
If you want to understand poverty in sub-Saharan Africa, you need to understand the r/K selection theory. If people are willing to have 20 children that they can’t support, it isn’t my moral duty to forego having two children so I can support theirs.
How many children people have is a direct inverse to their poverty. If they are safe with assured future they will have less children. Nature's way of ensuring the race survives.
what they dont take into account is average IQ levels in africa vs the rest of the world. Theres a reason africa is still in poverty after billions, probably trillions at this point being invested.
Theres is also the fact that many have that many children cause the life expectancy is so low due to disease, sanitation, etc.. familes in that kind of poverty need to have certainty there will be children who grow to adults to end taking care of the old and ensure their survival, the population would likely collapse if they didn't. For the size of the land mass Britain is far more populated then any country sub Saharan Africa
@@nicolavette7605Sub Saharan Africans did have low life expectancy compared to Europeans. Thanks to European technology and assistance, African life expectancy is increasing. The population of Africa has exploded. That’s why they’re all coming to Europe. Europeans (K selected people who have few children but invest heavily in their children) are falling in population while Africans (r selected people who feel no obligation to feed, clothe or educate their offspring before they conceive them) are exploding in population.
@@nicolavette7605Frankly I don’t care - it’s not my problem. I’m pro me and mine and not prepared to sacrifice my country and my people for the sake of ‘diversity’ and 3rd world values.
Nah that's a cover, he's a deep state type who cares about nothing but power. Makes me think of Liz Cheney or Mitt Romney, his "principles" serve those at the top.
@@rustyfeatherstone93 Because he is way more concerned about lives from outside the UK than he is about UK citizens. Whenever someone (especially a politician), focus more on problems they have little or no power over, than problems closer to home they could actually do something about, that rings my alarm bells. He does not talk about things that need fixing locally, because he has no intention to put his force into fixing those problems. He is probably bought and paid for, like the majority of politicians. To myself, he has always come across that way.
Yes. He talks a mixture of sense and condescending rubbish about the lack of education of those who voted Brexit etc. I can't even get any of my woke sisters to read just ONE page of what their own scientists actually say about their so called "climate crisis". They have every excuse in the book to avoid facing reality. Yet I get the impression they all think of themselves as morally and intellectually superior, all the more so if they spent five minutes at Uni. Big deal. A donkey doesn't become a horse when it goes atravellin', as I think the saying goes.
He is not being very realistic. There are plenty of desperate opportunists in the third world that will just take the cash and run and rip off their community. You still need to put in the checks and balances to protect people from corruption. When cash is involved there will always be corruption. Corruption is often built into the culture. Just giving cash is no easy solution
Smart, articulate, well travelled, reasonable, polite, well intentioned, and decent... ... yet wholly wrong on almost everything that's wrong with the UK. He's like a top doctor who's misdiagnosed a malignant tumour as benign.
@@callum1971 he's wrong on almost all of it, immigration too. Why? Because he hasn't put real thought or effort into root cause analysis of any of the issues he describes. Its so surface level. He offers platitudes not plausible solutions. He means well. "We must come together and heal the division". Yes Rory, but why are we so divided? *crickets.
@@callum1971 why? 1. This is a TH-cam comments section, not a thesis. 2. You couldn't care less. No matter what I say it'll never be thoughtful enough for you and it'll be wrong. Let's just cut to the chase... I have no insight into anything, anywhere, ever. There you go, you win 👍🏻
@@basilfawlty123 "C'mon, give Miguel a hug!" I don't think British people are divided, but I think some people feel threatened by 'sudden' large scale immigration into their neighbourhoods. I blame the central and local governments for allowing thousands of non-English speaking migrants to settle in concentrated areas which are never in the leafy suburbs where politicians live! I don't mind having neighbours with different customs or religions, I do mind the lack of planning and additional resources which have not been forthcoming to integrate migrants into the UK. The local police and Council ignore crime that occurs in the ghettos which have formed and that doesn't foster harmony. Rory and others are not aware of the everyday issues which arise from large scale immigration - they only see what's on the surface. And we know the middle-classes always think they know best since they appear to be genetically disposed to manage the rest of us. 😉
I think Nathaniel has an alternative to governments. Something like public tribunals and lots of referendums probably. Or a dictator. What else could he mean?
@@NunTheLass I don’t have the answers, I just complain a lot ;) But I would think that smaller governments can do less harm than larger ones. So if it were up to me I’d opt for smaller localized governance as opposed to the massive systems we have now 🤷♂️
I want to like Rory Stewart, but it is hard to take him seriously when on one side, he appears to deeply care about middle eastern affairs but on the other - he shares a podcast with one of Britains great villains, who was one of the engines behind Britains war campaign into Iraq which was complicit in over 1 million deaths. Is this misunderstood or is Stewart a hypocrite of the highest order?
@@HarryBuxley that doesn’t apply here. We’re talking about someone who pushed war onto a region based on dodgy intelligence that Hussain had WMD’s, later proven to be false. Alistair Campbell could not give a damn. That isn’t being friends with someone with different views, that’s associating yourself with a war criminal who is complicit in the murder of innocent people. Could you be friends with Hitler? Because there isn’t much of a difference there really. Once your actions result in the death of a million people, you’re a monster of the highest ilk.
@@HarryBuxleyIt’s one thing having a different political view, but it’s another thing entirely when Campbell was responsible for the “sexed up dossier” which contained fake information about Iraq having WMDs. Without Campbell and his manipulation with the intelligence agencies, Britain would never have been involved in the war in Iraq. Not to mention that David Kelly, the weapons inspector who testified about Iraq’s nuclear and chemical weapons, committed suicide after he exposed during a BBC interview, that Campbell insisted he include a specific line saying Iraq’s WMDs could be deployed against Britain in “45 minutes”. In short, Campbell is not just a political figure with controversial views. He is a political figure who has been directly involved with some of the darkest and most disastrous policy decisions in British history.
So out of touch. Rory just doesn't see the picture on the ground. 1st he says the working class/ex mining towns are just too complicated for the governments to tackle but then says he went to rural Afghanistan to set up initiative's, with his charity, to help the poor there. Why not try closer to home? That is what you were paid for when you were an MP. Even now there's nothing to stop you setting up a charity to help your fellow UK citizens.
He can get away with a lot of things in Afghanistan that he can't in the UK. Why do you think these rich people from the West love setting up so called charity organisations in 3rd world countries. It's all a facade. They're helping no one, but themselves.
With respect, is there anything stopping you from setting up a charity in the UK to help your fellow citizens? The guy is at least doing something positive and your response is to criticise him
My favourite part of this chat was when Chris described the hopelessness and poverty of north England and Rory starts talking about the aboriginals of Austrailia?? It's totally fascinating to me that a British man as well traveled, as well educated and as well connected as Rory Stewart is less familiar with, less passionate about and less interested in the fate of his own people than that of the Afghanis. And the irony is he's speaking about systemic issues in Britain.... If I don't laugh I'll cry
Privately educated men from the South East of England frequently know very little about vast swathes of England compared with what they know about other countries. The weekend skiing trips to France or Switzerland don't given them any time to travel round their own country.
Not sure you listened to him talking about The north of Uk , the dominace of London etc well before he mentioned any other areas France US , Austrailia etc
How about try the thing the British public have been telling politicians for 2 decades and get immigration under control, we need wage growth, and we don’t get that with an oversupply of cheap labour.
Have you actually read his books or listened to his views on foreign intervention and how he feels about the Iraq war, as a direct result of his own experiences?
@@joannemoore3976he is wrong on many issues here. 100% the best way of bringing people out of extreme poverty is a cheap energy supply but it doesn't fit with the climate change agenda...( Bjorn Lomborg as done a lot of work in this field).... another point...he has seen what the horrors of fundamentalism can bring yet disconnects with the concerns of the indigenous Brits, the middle east is a testimony that democracy doesn't fit with a certain ideology, he knows this but is blinded.... bizarre disconnect. God bless objective truths 🙏
There is no objective truth on either side of the argument, only opinion. Opinions may be based on facts but everyone, you, me, Rory, everyone is slightly selective about the facts and will interpret them differently. So it is a fact that certain factions of Islam have carried out atrocities in the West. But the conclusions people draw from that are different. Like Rory I see that as no reason to attack innocent Muslims.
@@joannemoore3976 you presume there's no objective truths only opinions.....1&1=2, mathematics is the best tool we have for describing reality... objectivity..... and I did stipulate "Fundamentalist ".....please look at the data, look at terror attacks and then the religiosity of those who perpetrate said attacks, ......I only wish all children of Abraham would unite 🙏 and the rest of the world to align 🙏
@@jackteare8292 no I accept there are some objective facts. But as I say even facts can be selected, given more or less weight, interpreted to mean particular things. I am not quite sure what yoi are saying..the original point was about Rory's involvement in wars. I don't think he is in any way denying radical Islam..he is simply saying that in this instance misinformation was used to incite trouble. Yes maybe the environment for that was there- it was a match in a tinder Bix.
Food for thought ... In 1997, the ratio of the median house price to the median income in England was 3.5. Now it is 8.3. (The Economist) Since 1997, the UK population has increased by 10million people. ONS forecasts another 6.6m increase in next 10 years or so.
@@alex434343cash purchases make up a small percentage of house purchases therefore the cost of the loan very much determines how much houses are worth. Low interest rates, manipulation of society to get both partners working and constant QE are the main cause of the increase in property prices.
@@Pezerinno I'm not saying its the only reason, but surely you can understand the logic that more people means more competition for housing, which means that sellers of houses can ask for a higher price? As the original commenter said... its basic supply and demand. Immigration is not the only factor, but it is absolutely one of the most significant factors.
Absolutely. We are not only sidelined but silenced. And by a government who got only 17% of the potential vote. This is an authoritarian banana republic. Rory hasn’t a clue, or maybe he has and is simply pretending like th rest of the ghastly politicians.
Great discussion 👍. Goodness me Rory, you must have traveled extensively to know so much about our world 🌎😊. I left the UK, retired and very, very, tired of struggling to survive. Now happier than I've ever been in rural Egypt 😜 What comes to my mind as you are talking about the disparity between London and the rest of the UK, is the way people who CAN make ends meet, talk about those who are less fortunate. The attitude seems to be one of BLAME! I think this is fundamentally WRONG. I hope and pray for enormous change because it's high time! The people of Britain have run out of 'cake'. Good luck with everything ❤
No. This man is not the edgy, dangerous maverick he portrays himself to be. He was and is very much a part of the machine, intent on spreading 'The Message'.
Rory may seem convincing regarding advocating to give directly to African nations, yet that’s exactly what we’ve been doing for decades. The continent has receives 40x over the entire amount of the ‘Marshal Plan’ - the aid loaned to rebuild Europe post WWII. Yet Africa did not build, they’ve squandered the money via corruption & mismanagement.
@@oliveoil7642The Chinese have had more success because they often build infrastructure instead of giving money. Where Britain gives cash directly to African governments, the Chinese build roads, hospitals, airports and schools as a form of payment. This is a win-win because the African nation gets material benefit via new infrastructure, but it also means no money can be lost via corruption. It also allows the Chinese government to issue construction contracts to major construction companies from China, which creates jobs for Chinese labourers and therefore adds to their economy.
@@XxxULTIMATEZxxX Sounds like their leadership utilizes much more long term thinking . Many politicians in the West are just plain arrogant and inept unfortunately!
Rory is now a massive advocate for Give Directly. Precisely because charities and aid organisations usually squander the money. It’s the bureaucracy that swallows the money up. Give directly cuts out the middle man
Saying that people are leaning away from “liberal democracy” and towards “populism” is stupid. If what we’ve had all this time was truly “liberal” or “democratic” then people wouldn’t be looking for something else because a liberal democracy is meant to be populist. People are looking for populism because they need someone who actually listens to them. But as it has been shown, the people in every country in the west has been given the middle finger and a combination of totalitarianism and corporate oligarchy has take root. People have had enough. Governments say they are democratic but ignore the will of the people. That is literally the definition of undemocratic.
You don't know what you're talking about. Liberal democracy and populism are, by definition, incompatible with eachother. Populism says that the will of the people must always prevail. Liberal democracy says the will of the people must prevail as long as people's individual rights are protected. If a populist wins a referendum saying that all ethnic minorities must be deported, they would say that's legitimate, because the people voted for it. A liberal democrat says no, you can't do that, because these people's rights are protected by law.
liberal democracy isn't populism.. I'm not sure who told you they were the same but they're not. Government don't ignore the "Will of the People" for every voter who thinks like you, there is someone else who doesn't.. that generates challenges and slows/stops things from happening.. your problem fundamentally is not that many people agree with you..
Absolutely stunned by the lack of ownership by Rory here. He was the minister in charge of allocation of $20bn per year of UK taxpayers money for international development, admits 80-90% is wasted, and did not take steps to radically change it. So %18bn a year. Act as a leader make the change. Make it simple, 90% is spent on the ground, fire all the consultants and everyone else who is not required to deliver that. Otherwise you obliterate the confidence of the citizens of the country because their tax monies are simply transferred to this “machine” technically delivering the aid - when it is only delivering money into their own pockets. Rory it is theft.
Rory Stewart may not appear bad-ass, but he is properly bad-ass. Walking on foot across Afghanistan and Iran and staying with local families at a time when there were very real risks to Westerners is pretty damn gutsy, in my estimation.
And yet all done for his own 'character development', with no positive downstream benefit for the people of Afghanistan or the UK. He just did it to sound more interesting at dinner parties.
@@goldie-fk6lr You don't think making an effort to understand other cultures is beneficial? How much has Afghanistan suffered from the epistemic arrogance and hubris of Bush, Blair, etc.?
@dant3175 you are right, particularly with regards to what you say about Bush and Blair. However, it isn't pertinent to the question of how 'useful' vs 'useful sounding' Rory Stewart is. I submit that Rory is: satisfied with being the latter, careless of the distinction, and / or self-deluding with regards to the difference between the two.
@@goldie-fk6lr Yet if you listen to him talk about his time in government, his chief complaint is being thwarted in getting things done by a culture of personal ambition and PR, by random cabinet shakeups, and by ill-thought-out regulations. He strikes me as very much a man impatient to get things done, which also tallies quite well with his impressively varied CV; working in the Foreign Office (my guess is he was MI6, fits the profile perfectly), the Army, as an MP, a minister, for NGOs, and now as a university lecturer/podcaster too. Not too shabby, even for someone posh.
Do a little research into his 'Army career', and you will see exactly the superficial CV coloring I am referring to. The sad part is people like him get away with it because there are legions of people like you who get taken in by the glossy veneer and fail to ask further questions. Are you, perchance, the type of person who would think of Bear Grylls as being roughly the same as a 22 SAS veteran, with multiple tours? Just a shot in the dark, but I'd be curious to know.
I spent over a decade in Afghanistan, working with many different NGOs and organisations.. I reached out to Rorys organisation for advice on getting Afghan friends to safety..Never even got a sorry, we cant help reply...His podcast with Campbell I find quite nauseous.
I enjoy conversations with this Chap and read his book about walking across afghanistan. But I only have one shallow comment to make. Rory Stewart looks like the love child of a combination of every member of The Rolling Stones.
Seeing Rory is best friends with top establishment, war criminal himself Alistair Campbell, I won't be listening to a word he has to say about anything in this podcast. One to miss.
Rory Stewart is one of the most lucid and balanced British politicians and thinkers. We can notice, however, that most comments here are negative about him. Most people prefer wrong but simple "solutions" rather than complex and nuanced choices.
"Two percent of the people think. Three percent of the people think that they think. And ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think". SHAW, George Bernard.
Simple slogans and solutions for simple minds... the essence of the appeal of popularism. The trouble is that it is spoke by charlatans who never deliver.
Simple "solutions" are attractive to people, you can see this in the evolution of the political sound bite over the last 20 plus years. There is almost no in depth analysis on free to air and hence people tend to revert to the social medias , which by their very nature and algorithms reinforce already held views, that and people are lazy.
@@duncefunce1513 I don’t think there’s one church. They are however quite westernised compared the rest of the Muslim world. They have to be as tourism is their lifeblood and the oil will eventually run out!
The murders were clearly hate crimes based on race. Yet this guy just says the murderer was a Christian born in England as if that makes everything else irrelevant.
The killer was a Christian born in Wales, UK.... did not mention England. So there was no reason to target a Mosque was there. We still do not know why the killer targetted the Taylor Swift dance class... to my mind it was something based on a mental health reason.
@@shuunyaHis parents were from Africa. Stabbings are commonplace between black youths in London and Africans on the whole. We simply don’t want that happening here in the UK. The truth might hurt some people but tough shit. PS: Yes, a crowd gathered around a Mosque but no larger than the Muslim crowd protesting outside the Manchester police station after one of their own was kicked ( after he broke a policewoman’s nose no less)
religious fundamentalism targets women and free expression. Hence the assumption the attacker was religious. Islam produces the most fundamentalists, being 500 years behind.
Rorys assessment of the riots is missing the key fact a guy turned up at the vigil with a knife, that kicked things off in Southport, spiralled from there
I am being a bit forward here.Rory Stewart is a careful thinker but also a romantic.I would love to listen to Rory Stewart talking to Tommy Robinson.He is also a romantic and has England at his heart .I am not sure some people who deride Tommy actually hear what he says.I think that Tommy Robinson is an honourable man.His only sin is that he does not belong to the right clique.
I had things to do this morning, yes, but then TH-cam algorithm brought this video to my phone and I couldn't stop listening and thinking about what you both said and thought. From start to end it was absolutely fascinating. I couldn't leave it. So now I continue with my life with my brain happier, brighter and more comprehensive. Thank you. Uruguay
Rory: Politicians just sit around and gossip about scandals. Also Rory: Let’s give politicians the power to decide what people can and can’t say online.
This guy is delusional. The reason the Taliban was fighting, during the war, was because we were invading their country. When they defeated us, the fighting stopped and we fled.
Taliban expert eh? If not… You know more about Afghanistan then than a diplomat who’s also walked across Afghanistan as a traveller, worked as a deputy governor in Iraq, set up and ran a charity in Afghanistan for several years and worked as the Secretary of State for International Development in the UK? Not saying this guy is always right, but at least consider his opinion and background before calling him delusional…
The Taliban were built up from orphans by the Pakistani ISI with plentiful funding by the USA government. Aim - regime change of the socialist government in Kabul and bleeding the Russians. So, yet another nice mess from the Washington neocons.
@@tobysimeons Classic example of the Dunning-Kruger... Keyboard warriors who can barely read or write slinging mud at people who are at an advanced stage of evolution to them. The faux outrage and self-righteousness would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. Stewart has been very critical of the neo-con philosophy and was never really a tub-thumper for Dubya, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Blair et al. He was a professional civil servant and an intelligence officer who understands the system more than 99% of the population.
A taxi driver told me a story many years ago off an English lord's opinion of politics - He said the first son always inherits , so no problem there, the second destined for the church - But the third, usually thick as they come, with no particular intelligence was expected to go into politics !!!! Over the years I have realised none of the offspring from a very wide social circle have chose politics , which says a lot about the scarcity of good politicians!!!
"If we didn't left the EU, we would got young Europeans instead of young people from other areas". Yes, keep telling this BS to yourself buddy... (Just look to Germany or France for once...)
@@jammydodgerthefirst It would be an extremely marginal difference. In 2022, only 10% of total migrants into the UK were from EU countries. In Germany in 2023, only 24% of all migrants were from EU countries. There has been a strong general trend across Europe of increased non-EU migration over the last 4 years in particular.
He's a decent enough bloke, but his perspective is that of an old Etonian who lives in a posh part of London. He has never had a normal job or lived in a working class community. These days he's a member of the chattering classes. I think his views on the UK should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The riots …. Rory didn’t address the nuances, just like the msm and the Labour government. Yes, the perpetrator was not born abroad and was not born to Muslim parents. But the random butchery was reminiscent of the massacres in July 2005 and Manchester Arena and London Bridge and Bataclan …. only worse. Three little girls at a dance party, many others scarred for life. He didn’t address the pent up resentment over the grooming rape gangs , the previous massacres, the government disrespect of the natives in allowing so many Muslims both through regular immigration and illegally via the channel. There is HUGE resentment over the creeping Islamisation / Lebanonisation yet Rory touched none of it.
A terrible thing has happened over the last few years. Disability rates have had a massive SPIKE. I have seen many people who are a shell and shadow of what they were before 2021. This happening has decimated lives and this is having and will keep having a massive ripple effect. Our community and society is just an extension of individuals. Evil evil people but no-one can speak the truth. Life will never be the same. I wish it was at least acknowledged and some help was given to those whose lives are ruined.
because its being compared to blm type riots and most of the time people dont know why they are rioting , except an excuse to loot snd have a bit of fun
The British parliamentary system is actually a 5 year dictatorship. Each MP has a mandate from local voters, but after they arrive in parliament, they are ‘wipped” into voting according to the party leader’s policy direction. Therefore they have no real freedom to reflect local opinion. Occasionally a Green, Respect, Reform, independent gets in locally, but they have no policy impact. The current labour government was elected on 33% of those who voted, probably 25% if you count the 7 million who could have voted but didn’t. The system does not reflect the mass of people, and disillusionment or protest emerges.
It was a fraction under 21% of the total electorate including those who didn't vote. It was 20.8% based on the initial data as I calculated it the day after the result, but a couple of constituencies were still to declare. Or to put it another way "none of the above" got double the vote that kier starmer got.
I am in aura of Rory Stuart. Just an enormous pleasure to listen to him. He is a real national treasure. I wish there were more people like him. Thank you!
@@Rendell001 The man literally responded to the British people voting for Brexit by leaving the government whose job it was to enact Brexit. Exposed himself as anti-Democratic.
The question was asked about how direct cash payments can go wrong-well, Afghanistan. We threw around 100s of billions of dollars in cash and most of it was stolen. The Afghan elite were literally flying pallets of cash to UAE and we knew it. In large part, we funded the insurgency against us. The American taxpayer is now suffering greatly now due to such incompetence and yet to this day we are sending 10s of millions of dollars in "humanitarian aid" to the Taliban.
Apart from just empathy for other human beings, we should care out of sheer self-interest. At the end of this century, Africa is projected to have the two most populous mega-cities on the planet: Lagos and Dar es-Salaam, which will be home to around 90 million people each. Africa is a massive, resource-rich continent, and its population is the youngest on average. In other words, it's very much a place of massive potential, a place for the future. And China and Russia are very, very busy amassing influence there. Considering the current effect of poverty there, of instability, and the resulting migrant flows to Europe, NOT caring about fixing Africa is extremely short-sighted.
Watched two interviews today this one and another with TR by Richard Gannon. It seems the problem with the UK is the middle class just do not get or understand the working class. In the past classes in Britain pulled in the same direction with a love for their country, but now the Middle classes are going against the working classes not realising the immigrant classes, though hard working, don't generally have the same love for the country.
Actually in retrospect it becomes obvious the rich see the world in global terms and the poor just have the world around them. Each are disconnected from the other. In bygone years the rich needed the poor, now they are just an inconvenience
You were not elected by the people of China, Sub Saharan Africa or the people of the poorer parts of the EU. You were elected to make life better for your constituents. Not to help others get enough capital together to be able to afford to come to invade our country.
If you can’t convince people in Afghanistan and Irak to become woman-friendly, democracy friendly, why would you succeed when they freely decide to settle in your country and you feel like you’re a good person by letting it happen ?
I was in a conversation with an economics professor, and he was absolute convinced that every immigrant was economically beneficial, would pull their weight in taxes, no risk to public health or safety , even though we know nothing about the people coming across the border.
In the case of the recent British riots we keep getting told that the violent protests were fuelled by misinformation/disinformation stating that a Muslim immigrant from Syria was the perpetrator of the stabbing death of three young girls. That is where the narrative stops, where people like this particular guest, try to set the limits of analysis. The frame of reference for discussion about the recent unrest in Britain is then the underlying currents of racism in the country. What is never pursued is the following question: why were so many people predisposed to believe that such a heinous act must of been committed by a Muslim extremist ? Why was the rumoured identity of the attacker that of a Muslim Syrian refugee rather than a second generation Sikh or recently arrived Nigerian Christian? What is it that has been going on in Britain and virtually every other western nation that makes the native populations so conditioned to believe that such a barbarous act must have been perpetrated by one particular group? The answer MUST be racism rather than the idea that another much more widely held held human trait might of been in play, that of human pattern recognition.
I admire your anti racist stand but the question is simply answered by the facts on the ground, not just in the UK but, also in many European countries, the great majority of knife killings especially those that are abhorrent in nature are committed by Moslem men. And, that is a situation that needs to be discussed openly rather than be hidden under the carpet by police or politicians. And, while on the subject of racism the moslems are more disparaging of their white neighbours than the other way around. Another subject that should be surfaced for discussion. Racism is not a two tier subject and communities, politicians and police need to deal with the realities of racism and the causes openly, rather than the current attitude to let the matter fester in the hope it will go away. I fully support the eradication of all racism and the equal treatment of all citizens but, the current political correctness and shame attached to speaking about the problem is only making it worse and I for one despair at the ignorance and stupidity of pretending this can only be condemned rather than discussed.
@@thorkushari4027open you eyes, this was no doubt another “false flag” to create confusion, division and remove the focus from the atrocities going on in the ME….
Let's be honest, the most that gets done in any UK town/city is a new shopping centre with a different fountain.......year after year- yet your taxes go higher and higher for less and less
@@matthewgriffith2465 yep. And thats WITH the inclusion of London which skews the stats already. Outside of London it is an incredibly poor country, unfortunately
Not quite. The UK is at 47k , the same as Germany, and 17% higher than France at 40k. The state of Mississipi is 39k. Italy is 34k, Spain is 29k, Portugal is at 24k. Americas debt slaves, sorry, her 'Allies' are on their knees.
@@realMaverickBuckley2022 UK GDP per capita: £33.5k, multiply by 1.3 to get dollars. Dunno where you got your 47k from, london per capita? And this isn't taking into account millions of uncounted illegals
Thank you for this interview. It is incredibly sad though that even when someone like Rory Stewart who acutely aware of the deep issues breaking our society/world, would not be able to acquire the power to do anything about it. The lunatics are in full control of the asylum. I think we need to detach ourselves from this horribly failed system - simply ignore it and work on creating something that's actually beneficial to society.
Yes, Afghanistan and Iraq were the most expensive failures in the century so far, but all is not lost for the military industrial complex. They have Ukraine to keep the transfer of wealth from taxpayers to corporate entities going for decades to come.
Exactly - wars are just an underhand scam to transfer taxes to corporations and shareholders. 90% of those slaughtered in Afghanistan and Iraq were innocent civilians sacrificed to enrich the already rich.
You wanna have Russia take over Ukraine? The country that has almost 2/3 of the most fertile soil on the planet and let Russia dictate foodprices in most developing countries and even to parts Europe? Yes you haven't said that, because you don't inform yourself, but that is the consequence if Russia wins.
@11:52 Re Liz Truss. She became prime minister because the Tory Party membership were only permitted a vote when it was a choice between Truss or Sunak. The membership took the decision that Sunak was not to be trusted. The membership was correct. Sunak was so utterly unconservative, so obviously rubbish, he turned an eighty seat Tory majority into a Labour super-majority. You want to talk about incompetence Rory? Well, Sunak is exhibit A.
@@chris379202Sunak did not try to reduce immigration. Sunak had zero intention of reducing immigration. Sunak is a puppet of the billionaires at Davos, as is Starmer. Sunak and Starmer see eye-to-eye on mass, destructive immigration. It's their programme (or more accurately, it's their master's programme) and it's working.
Liz Truss was appalling on every level. Ruined the economy. Poor communicator. Rory's critique of her poor track record in government was correct. She blames everyone else for her failings except herself. I wish her a quiet and permanent retirement from British politics.
@@davegold Sunak was appalling on every level. Poor communicator, oily and disengenuous. Raised mass immigration to country destroying levels. Rory is as dodgy as Sunak. Rory is a member of Le Cercle, something he doesn't mention in his book and something he is uncomfortable being asked about.
Giving money directly to poor people only helps if they're in a position to use that cash effectively. If they're in a society that doesn't respect property rights, it'll get stolen. If they're in a society that doesn't value strong ethics, it'll get embezzled. If they're in a society that doesn't have ready access to the stuff they need, you'll increase the price of that stuff without solving anything. This is why the Marshall plan worked, while throwing money at sub-Saharan Africa has not.
Most of the embezzlement happens long before the people on the ground get the crumbs. Eaten by bad white men in the supply chain, consultants, advisers, etc.
Very true. I've lived in South Africa my whole life. "African Socialism" (i.e. a mediaeval system of chiefdom/patronage) is funded by donors and makes the population weak, dependant, unskilled, uneducated and unimaginative. Everyone's sole priority is to puncture the resource pipe to steal their bit, not to build their skills and abilities. It's a valueless, unproductive system, fully enabled and instrumentalised by donor controllers.
@@willerwin3201 I'll get back to you with data. The data from charity organisations Oxfam, Save the Children, etc., is commonly available. The data for aid through Country to Country donations is a little more difficult to flush out. It may take me a day or two. Incidentally aid through the United Nations, is the most porous.
southport stabber (rwandan parents) was not indigenous british. They have had enough of migration now and they went through a massive islamist rape attack on non-muslims that went on for decades and were told they couldnt complain or they were racists. They have had enough. Changing a country's demographics against the will of the people is evil.
Rory Stewart is one of the few men around who has a grasp on Afghanistan. He walked across the country and even speaks Pashtu. He's the genuine article.
Having been raised in a poor, rural community and having later both deployed to Afghanistan and done international humanitarian aid there, this guest makes great points. Case in point, I helped build a courthouse in Southern AFG. With the salaries of myself, the US/UK engineers, anti-corruption experts, security, safe house staff, procurement specialists, monitoring and evaluation specialists, not to mention the uparmored Hiluxes, sustainment and "life support" we received for that project could have easily built that courthouse ten times over.
@@HarryBuxley to be honest, I didn't know much about this gentleman either. I know the organizations he's worked for, and some of the subject matter he spoke about. I also understand that many of his opinions and positions are formed by experiences that most people will not have, particularly with respect to international development. It's sad, but not unexpected to have folks offer really bad takes on the subject. It's one of those subjects where the dunning-kruger effect seems to make a strong appearance.
Brilliant discussion, I enjoyed listening to that Thank you Gentlemen Love listening to politicians being interviewed on podcasts, much better than main stream media
Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps:
00:00 Current Atmosphere in Afghanistan
04:27 The Incompetence of Western Leaders
15:36 What’s Happening to the UK?
19:53 Do Politicians Only Care About London?
33:06 The UK’s Biggest Problems
37:26 Should We Be Worried About Free Speech?
45:37 How Bad is Extreme Poverty in 2024?
51:38 The Pitfalls of Organised Charities
58:02 Why Poverty Hasn’t Improved in Africa
1:03:23 How Effective Altruism Impacted Charity
1:07:23 Where to Find Rory
your guest: I perceive him as a strange chess figure. quite naive, a proponent of mass influx of ideological incompatible people who actually erect a second juridical system; a parallel law system. everyone with 3 braincell can predict what happens to our juridical system as soon the 'other fraction' makes up 50% of society. very disapointing guest you invited and it is also disappointing that you did not challenge him.
oops meant to put this here, '' his analogy of a good school teacher arriving at a badly run school..... lets have a little think about that. he is of course a teacher, and the public are of course his pupils/ the people he is governing. blaiming it all in incompetence and systemic failings is yet another obfuscation. his attitude to us the public are that he is in charge and knows better and can enforce power over us to make us learn what needs to be learnt. i would suggest instead, the system is working perfectly, the incompetence isnt a bug its a feature, we didnt accidentally invade afghanistan and iraq, it wasnt oh oh oh... oops invaded a couple of countries that will be a quagmire for decades, silly me. the people have been spinning and fizzing with anger because even 20 years ago people like myself knew it would be a quagmire. we have to assume any opportunity for our governments to increase their power and control over us will be taken. we arent being governed so much as we are being corraled and coerced and brainwashed into traps that make us beg for more government control. '' crime is bad we need more camera''..... crime is bad we need id cards''.... crime is bad we need facial recognition'' so here we are today, all major news outlets say that peace marches are hate marches. that being humane is supporting terrorism. you can watch a tv thats upside down, if you sit upside down on the sofa, and you will get used to it, and you will blame immigrants that you cant drink tea while watching tv anymore. and the deep flaws in this logic/mindset, will be deemed woke or maga, or sometimes both at the same time until you just give up thinking.
Maybe your best interview Chris. You're authentic and vulnerable and I really enjoyed this conversation
This bloke is clueless
I love you Chris but this guy is bonkers.
The “humiliation” of the failures in Afghanistan did not cause the public to lose faith in government. Rather, its was the same corruption and incompetence which caused the failure in Afghanistan being seen here at home. The real lesson of Afghanistan is that the same people who were in charge of nation building there for twenty years have been in charge of nation building across the West for even longer. Once you understand that, you understand why everything is a mess and no one trusts the government anymore.
How does nation building help us explain/understand what's really going on?
I served in Afghanis and I was just a trooper , even I could see it was corrupt to the core .
It’s not only ineptness unfortunately many are also corrupted through blackmail and bribery!
@@oliveoil7642 exactly
All roads lead to a corrupt media with an agenda set by the elite . Wake up
Sick of people who have been deeply involved in politics calling UK/US/NATO operations in places like Iraq and Afghanistan "failures". The billions of dollars went somewhere. They went out of taxpayers' hands to weapons manufacturers, military equipment manufacturers, private security contractors, reconstruction contractors and many more entities. Look at where many US politicians and advisers (and probably UK ones too) who make the decisions to go to war invest their money. You will see that these operations were HUGELY SUCCESSFUL in transferring public funds into private hands. The chaos caused and perpetuated by these so-called "failed" military operations is hugely profitable. We are not all idiots born yesterday.
One of the few intelligent observations on this podcast. Absolutely agree, look AT warmongerer Dick Cheney in the U. S. A. previously in hierarchy of Haliburton weapons manufacturer.
Very good point, very well presented!!! It was NEVER about winning or success and always about having a profitable target to keep people afraid of and demonised and a justification for unlimited wreckless killing and destruction and Money laundering! They dont give a flying f..k about 'success' or winning!!! It's not even a consideration!!!
Ukraine contracts have lready been signed
As soon as Russia invaded Ukraine arms stocks went up massively. It is sickening.
Of course if a trillion dollars was sucked out of the US it would have collapsed. Yes some of it went into bullets and shells which were sprayed around a desert somewhere, but as you point out, the vast majority returned to the US in terms of servicemen's pay, profits for the weapons producers etc etc.
If only Rory wasn’t blind to Islamism in the U.K.
But then, he wouldn't be a Silly Socialist Stooge, right?
@@FilipinaVeganaTry asking a question instead of putting words and thoughts in peoples minds and mouths.
Give it another go, also Rory was a Conservative MP, so do you know anything about him?
There is no such thing as a Conservative party in the UK.
@@FilipinaVegana Grow up little child
@@FilipinaVegana This man was a Conservative minister. You seem to be completely clueless, please do stay mute and not spread your ignorance. I thank you on behalf of humanity.
I’m warming to Chris Williamson. A thoughtful and reflective commentator and good interviewer. And who doesn't like Rory Stewart.
Excellent interview
Fabulous podcast.... Rory Stewart is a brilliant interviewee.
Rory, it's not "hatred of Muslims" from the British public. It's a recognition that orthodox, traditional Islam as a set of beliefs are diametrically opposed to many of the fundamental values we have in the west and those beliefs are causing major problems across Europe. As was shown in your interview with Sam Harris, you are completely blind to this demonstrable fact because you know nice people who follow that religion. Well most of us know nice people who follow the religion but that doesn't stop us seeing what's going on with grooming gangs and terror attacks and the desire of large swathes of UK Muslims wanting to live under a sharia tyranny. You are totally disconnected from reality because you live in a rich bubble.
You do know Muslims account for just 6% of the UK?
@@stephencusack1675 Yes I do know that. Why do you ask?
@@stephencusack1675 And yet these politicians pander to them 🤔Why is that?
@@stephencusack1675 What % of the rapes? What % of the 8m a day spent on migrant hotels?
@@stephencusack1675 In 2001 it was 2.7%. That's a rapid expansion. 6% is enough to introduce sectarianism into our political landscape. That is not a good thing.
Rory has lost the plot, he's absolutely out of touch - see how he doesn't understand the riots and the impacts of Globalisation and Mass Immigration on the working class.
Lost the plot...
Wouldn't expect anything less as a result of his silver spoon upbringing.
i saw the kind of people that rioted, are they the in touch ones?
@@JDRacing-j2vNo. He means Rory is out of touch, in regards to the causes and feelings about the issues we have. Which sparked, and may spark further civil unrest.
Has a podcast with Alistair Campbell. Say no more. Said Douglas Murray should be prosecuted, lol.
he understands, he is just paid to confuse medium to llow educated. theres probably a technique were he uses one obscure word to the medium educated every hour versus 5 every hour for low educated, that way he covers the whole picture in respectable confusion. '' well i dont know how we ccould have invaded afghanistan and achieved nothing in 20 years''.... well i do, i think most informed people knew, pretty sure we had marches and everything. 2002 was the year of the phrase... '' not without a UN second resolution .......unless theres an unreasonable veto''
Guys completely disconnected…he understands more about the Afghans problems and the poor Africans than the British people while saying they deserve free money and we should all put up and shut up because we are just lost and angry…meanwhile we kell giving charity to poor African nations who’s population keeps on growing by choice of their parents who keep having children…meanwhile our birth rate is declining and there are huge systemic problems in this country…Guy is a typical case of a good hearted, compassionate, educated person who’s been completely disconnected from normal UK life and just spews liberal agenda whether it is wrong or right…god this country is a joke
Honestly, I think he's just high on the fumes of his self-assumed intellect and self-importance.
the new job of politicians especially the modern cosmopolitan globalist type is to keep the native population off center by creating resentment between groups. they do this by preferring some groups over others completely overtly.
Charitable donations should reach the people that money is intended for. Instead the charities administering money pay out huge sums of money to private companies.Charitable donations can be stolen by so many people when beaurocracy is involved.
Giving the money to people in need directly makes more sense.
I'm wondering how he thinks Afghan is safe, after talking about public executions. Europe will end up completely right-wing as the crimes increase, and there will be zero sentiment for any more third-world aid.
@@MargaretDeakin-d6m Everyone knows most charity is syphoned off long before it does any good for the people it's intended for. I knew someone who worked on lottery grant applications, the company applying took half the money, how many more down the line take a slice.
Really in depth conversation. Rory should have been PM instead of Johnson. I’m no Tory. But have always liked his empathy and his enormous reservoir of knowledge on world history and politics. He has vision and a true understanding of what should happen. He was treated badly during that awful Johnson/ Truss era. And I believe he’s a real asset to this country and globally, thankfully many are now listening to him. I find him fascinating especially his early life and Afghan walks. I must watch your channel now that I’ve found it on here. Thank you. Your Stockton days, my partner is from Blackhall Colliery, we live in London. But we have spent time there over the past 25 years, do you get back very often? I love the coastline, but many of those villages have been left and ignored by central government. The levelling promises all failed to materialise.
He's another out of touch toff who hasn't worked a day in his life. It's easy to theorise about things that never impact you.
This is super-thanks for the podcast!
Afghanistan was a failure? You don't understand anything. Afghanistan was an absolute home run. Generational wealth was created for a handful of defense contractors. That was the goal. And it was a smashing success.
Exactly
Haha
The problem with the UK is that our parliament is totally unrepresentative of the wishes of the people. We've had decades of effective gerrymandering to prevent the people having a direct say on the issues about which we are most concerned. The one time we did get a direct vote (on Brexit - itself an indication of how much the elites are utterly deluded about what the people want) the likes of Rory moved heaven and earth to destroy our negotiating position. The current dysfunction is the result. We are the prime example of what happens to a culture when it is long overdue a revolution
I agree with everything you said, but I fear it's worse than that - Parliament has basically elevated itself above the law (it's own laws) with exceptions, special carve outs etc. they have become a law unto themselves.
Brexit is the stupidest thing UK has done in last 200 to 300 years.
Which governments around the world do represent the people they are meant to represent?
The amount of people i hear saying ill never vote labour again 😂 to late buttercup, you reap what you sow.
There is zero content in this comment. It's just a bunch of buzz words that a Russian AI bot would string together to sow unrest. Even if you are a real person, there's literally no difference between you and an AI bot.
A prisoner in a USSR gulag is asked what he is there for. He says: I was a plumber, got called to fix pipes in Kremlin. I looked at the pipes and I said - the whole system here needs to change. Got 10 years hard labor.
Makes sense, doesn't it 😂🤣😭
There's always room for humour
Aye, I miss office banter since WFH.. A bit of a joke like this felt good. 😄😄
😂😂😂😂
You’ll get time for your joke.
He was an agitator in the rotten Brexit Parliament who threatened a coup on live TV ("I'll walk across to Westminster Hall and set up an alternative parliament"). *He* reminds me of what is most rotten about British Politics today. Too many children larping as grown ups.
MONARCHY rules (literally).
@@FilipinaVegana- The monarchy are a comparatively unimportant wing of a much larger bird - the Old Money Patrician Nobility of Europe.
The Guelphs-
@@meggysaurusrex, what you wrote has ABSOLUTELY no relevance to my slogan.
Rory is part of the useless elite that runs things in the UK. Eton and Oxford. He's only ever worked for the government. He does not believe in democracy but in rule by technocrats. That is why he loved the EU.
I need more explanation on that OP.
I do not know English politics.
Who?
Why was that so bad?
The beauty of free speech on long form podcasts is people expose who they really are
great fun!
The Lotus Eaters just did a video roasting Rory boy for his half assed election predictions.
I am British living in the Netherlands for the last 30 years and every time I go back to the uk, I can’t get over with how little has changed. The same roads same trains, a society stuck in a ramshackle house with no money to modernize. A huge contrast to tge Netherlands where infrastructure is continuously improving, companies expanding and improving living standards. Yes there are issues in the NL mostly coming from the EU.
Hospitals, restaurants, shops, etc are generally staffed by Dutch people, why isn’t this possible in the uk.
Brian: That is what I wonder. British leadership seems to be totally self-serving.
As a European in the UK, my understanding is that the politicians are pretty substandard. They give off nice speeches but they fret doing the job. Don't get me wrong! it's not only the highest echelons of the government, it's everyone from the councils all the way up. The guys who are supposed to represent local communities leech off of them, instead of trying to better things around them. Hence, you never see any major change. They aren't fixing roads, pavements, nor asking for new infrastructure. The guys in the upper office are happy to do less since people aren't asking.
To be a good politician you have to be willing to break some eggs and also be ready to do the work - which is usually immense paperwork, so if you are not smart and thorough you can easily say you are doing something but not actually follow through. Independent of being pro or against Brexit, this is what happened there.. the politicians came up with an idea, had people vote on it, when the results came through they showed how massively unprepared they were. And what did they do after? Nothing .. they just let the system crumble. A good idea or a bad idea doesn't matter. This was a significant change that they weren't ready for nor were able to execute ..and of course no one cares because they expect "time to heal all". Look at the state of the NHS! they haven't done a single adjustment to help the system function, they only talk about money..Mr Stewart talked about the issue himself. But look at his attitude..he essentially implied that he is able to make more changes in Africa by giving off money than to fight the system in the UK because "no one does it".. we don't care if no one does it, you should be making the change. Bring the issues forward, be the change. Having a conversation stating the fact doesn't do anything at all. I have nothing against the man, I just find his attitude demoralising.
Goodness knows and it was the same for me when I worked in Oman, Saudi, Moscow and when I came back to England it was untouched and exactly the same!
No Rory those communities in the North didn't lose their mines, your lot took them away. Tories like you shut them and bought imported coal instead. For what? To win an argument from the 1970s with a union.
The Unions took their jobs. If some fat cat union boss, earning 5 times what a Prime Minister does, but because he and his minions keeps stealing from the union members so he keeps demanding more money, you'll eventually get to the point where it's no longer affordable.
That's where we got to.
Also Rory is no Conservative. He's just another globalist like his podcast chum Alastair Campbell.
Breaking the backs of the unions in that period gave the UK 30 years of prosperity that it would never have had otherwise. The problem with these areas is they expect someone to give them a living. They have a victim mentality
@@barryyoung No. Mortgaging our future and North sea oil gave us the illusion of 30 years of prosperity.
It's terribly sad, but there is no money in coal - when it is cheaper to import coal than mine it yourself then you have no reason to mine coal.
We are going through the same nonsense right now - the UK government has paid an Indian company, Tata, £500m to keep the UK steel factories open. This is absolute madness, it's a dead industry and there is no competing with China on this.
For context, Brazil which is rich in the Iron ore and has an excellent steel manufacturing industry buys about 50% of it's steel from China - that means it's exporting it's iron ore to China, paying China to manufacture the steel and then importing it back, and it's cheaper!
@@LiamE69 Silly LIam.
It's people like Rory that have got us to this position. He pretended to be a conservative which should involve believing in the nation state and borders, supporting free market capitalism and holding sensible traditional views on cultural issues. Like most others in the Conservative party he did nothing to advance those views but supported the same trendy, liberal, internationalist and green worldview as all other parties. Ultimately though we kept voting for people who said they were one thing but acted the opposite, maybe we share in the blame.
Absolutely. Here he is blaming misinformation and the lack of lockdown for causing Jan 6. It's exactly the opposite. The lockdown on these platforms both silenced actual fair dissent (such as Biden corruption with Ukraine) and created the atmosphere where even election results could not be trusted. Silencing dissent on covid, vaccines, government; the situation was completely out of hand with censorship and narratives for control. And now he is here trying to memory hole that.
I cant imagine it is safe for a woman to travel across Afghanistan
To be fair, he already said the women are restricted to the home.
It is safe but they have to travel accompanied by a man, as per the Taliban’s strict interpretation of Sharia law. It would be highly unusual for a woman to travel unaccompanied.
Check youtube about western women currently doing just that.
Nope are you Mad.
I’ve always liked Rory. He is a sincere, open, very knowledgeable man. He has a talent for connecting people.
Rory angle : Look, women in Afghanistan dont get hurt in traffic accidents anymore, thats really good. Why ? Because they aren't allowed out of the house to drive.
A first world perspective. Average people don't care how the problem is solved they care about that it is solved. Every Government is 3 hot meals away from revolution people don't care as long as they have 3 hots and a cot they really do not question how they got those 3 hots and a cot. We failed in Afghanistan because democracy, human rights etc that does not feed people, keep them sheltered, provides security, you cannot feed people on feelings and ideas.
Too clever!
I find it hard to listen to Rory after the collaboration with the Spin Doctor.
Collaborated with Dr David Kelly's killer.
Yes, he compromised himself by working with the vile Campbell.
I feel the same. I wish he could have been more of a conservative voice when with him, instead it feels like he abandoned ship. But then, I don’t think Rory ever was right of centre.. more centrist left leaning these days.
It's kind of funny. Those two together is the epitome of how the upper class live in a completely different world to us mere plebs. I'm sure they believe these two have great, balanced opinions. But for the rest of us they miss the mark completely on many things.
@@Cos-mogRory is a former card-carrying member of the Labour Party
I am pretty sure the Afghans and Iraqi people don't have the $3 trillion! Where did all that money go? Most ended up in the wallets of corporations and shareholders. War is a sly way to tax ordinary citizens and enrich those who profit from the death and destruction of wars. 90% of those who were slaughtered in Iraq and Afghanistan were civilians!!
Rory is a classic wet Tory. He is more concerned about optics and propriety than the country collapsing.
Yep, people like imaging up half the Tory party are the reason the British right is so useless.
He cares more about poor Africans than his own people. It's so disgusting.
@@StoddardianMy exact thought… charity starts at home…
This is such a braindead take its incredible.
He’s not a Tory at all, he’s practically left wing, big government politician who thinks he’s actually competent and useful.
Brilliant interviw!!!!❤❤❤
He needs to stick to dealing with extreme poverty. He has not got a single sensible thing to say about the problems in the UK!
If you want to understand poverty in sub-Saharan Africa, you need to understand the r/K selection theory. If people are willing to have 20 children that they can’t support, it isn’t my moral duty to forego having two children so I can support theirs.
How many children people have is a direct inverse to their poverty. If they are safe with assured future they will have less children. Nature's way of ensuring the race survives.
what they dont take into account is average IQ levels in africa vs the rest of the world. Theres a reason africa is still in poverty after billions, probably trillions at this point being invested.
Theres is also the fact that many have that many children cause the life expectancy is so low due to disease, sanitation, etc.. familes in that kind of poverty need to have certainty there will be children who grow to adults to end taking care of the old and ensure their survival, the population would likely collapse if they didn't. For the size of the land mass Britain is far more populated then any country sub Saharan Africa
@@nicolavette7605Sub Saharan Africans did have low life expectancy compared to Europeans. Thanks to European technology and assistance, African life expectancy is increasing. The population of Africa has exploded. That’s why they’re all coming to Europe. Europeans (K selected people who have few children but invest heavily in their children) are falling in population while Africans (r selected people who feel no obligation to feed, clothe or educate their offspring before they conceive them) are exploding in population.
@@nicolavette7605Frankly I don’t care - it’s not my problem. I’m pro me and mine and not prepared to sacrifice my country and my people for the sake of ‘diversity’ and 3rd world values.
Rory is a well meaning idealist who's ideas and philosophy never align with reality.
I am not convinced he is well meaning, but if he is, he is extremely misguided.
Nah that's a cover, he's a deep state type who cares about nothing but power.
Makes me think of Liz Cheney or Mitt Romney, his "principles" serve those at the top.
Hmm... Well-meaning idealist. Born in the colonies, then Eton, Oxford and straight into government. Above all, he was chair of Le Cercle 2013-14.
@@cbdp what makes you say that?
@@rustyfeatherstone93 Because he is way more concerned about lives from outside the UK than he is about UK citizens. Whenever someone (especially a politician), focus more on problems they have little or no power over, than problems closer to home they could actually do something about, that rings my alarm bells. He does not talk about things that need fixing locally, because he has no intention to put his force into fixing those problems. He is probably bought and paid for, like the majority of politicians. To myself, he has always come across that way.
Wow
This guy is self-righteous.
It overshadows whatever good he might have to say.
Yes. He talks a mixture of sense and condescending rubbish about the lack of education of those who voted Brexit etc. I can't even get any of my woke sisters to read just ONE page of what their own scientists actually say about their so called "climate crisis". They have every excuse in the book to avoid facing reality. Yet I get the impression they all think of themselves as morally and intellectually superior, all the more so if they spent five minutes at Uni. Big deal. A donkey doesn't become a horse when it goes atravellin', as I think the saying goes.
He is not being very realistic. There are plenty of desperate opportunists in the third world that will just take the cash and run and rip off their community. You still need to put in the checks and balances to protect people from corruption. When cash is involved there will always be corruption. Corruption is often built into the culture. Just giving cash is no easy solution
Wow! I came to a very different conclusion. I concluded that this guy is right and everything he says brings light into the world.
@@patrickquinlanyou mean a victim?
@@saregama-r8td Do yourself a big favour and buy a dictionary.
This conversation was a great advert for Give Directly. Thank you.
Smart, articulate, well travelled, reasonable, polite, well intentioned, and decent...
... yet wholly wrong on almost everything that's wrong with the UK.
He's like a top doctor who's misdiagnosed a malignant tumour as benign.
Hes not wrong about everything he highlighted. You just don't like his view on immigration.
@@callum1971 he's wrong on almost all of it, immigration too. Why? Because he hasn't put real thought or effort into root cause analysis of any of the issues he describes. Its so surface level. He offers platitudes not plausible solutions.
He means well. "We must come together and heal the division". Yes Rory, but why are we so divided? *crickets.
@@basilfawlty123 please give us your thoughtful analysis
@@callum1971 why? 1. This is a TH-cam comments section, not a thesis. 2. You couldn't care less. No matter what I say it'll never be thoughtful enough for you and it'll be wrong. Let's just cut to the chase...
I have no insight into anything, anywhere, ever. There you go, you win 👍🏻
@@basilfawlty123 "C'mon, give Miguel a hug!" I don't think British people are divided, but I think some people feel threatened by 'sudden' large scale immigration into their neighbourhoods. I blame the central and local governments for allowing thousands of non-English speaking migrants to settle in concentrated areas which are never in the leafy suburbs where politicians live! I don't mind having neighbours with different customs or religions, I do mind the lack of planning and additional resources which have not been forthcoming to integrate migrants into the UK. The local police and Council ignore crime that occurs in the ghettos which have formed and that doesn't foster harmony. Rory and others are not aware of the everyday issues which arise from large scale immigration - they only see what's on the surface. And we know the middle-classes always think they know best since they appear to be genetically disposed to manage the rest of us. 😉
Typical politician… describes problems created by government, then believes government is the solution…
what? But he IS a politician.
I think Nathaniel has an alternative to governments. Something like public tribunals and lots of referendums probably. Or a dictator. What else could he mean?
@@NunTheLass I don’t have the answers, I just complain a lot ;) But I would think that smaller governments can do less harm than larger ones. So if it were up to me I’d opt for smaller localized governance as opposed to the massive systems we have now 🤷♂️
he says money is the solution instead of pointless wars costing trillions to trash the country just to hand it back to them
@@squeesmyth9025 That’s a fair point 👍🏼
I want to like Rory Stewart, but it is hard to take him seriously when on one side, he appears to deeply care about middle eastern affairs but on the other - he shares a podcast with one of Britains great villains, who was one of the engines behind Britains war campaign into Iraq which was complicit in over 1 million deaths. Is this misunderstood or is Stewart a hypocrite of the highest order?
He was a deputy regional governor of an Iraqi province during the occupation lol, he's totally complicit.
@@HarryBuxleybut the left don’t agree! Moral purity must be maintained. If you disagree you are evil and beneath contempt.
@@HarryBuxley that doesn’t apply here. We’re talking about someone who pushed war onto a region based on dodgy intelligence that Hussain had WMD’s, later proven to be false.
Alistair Campbell could not give a damn. That isn’t being friends with someone with different views, that’s associating yourself with a war criminal who is complicit in the murder of innocent people.
Could you be friends with Hitler? Because there isn’t much of a difference there really. Once your actions result in the death of a million people, you’re a monster of the highest ilk.
@@bigmac786 he cares more for the Middle East than the UK, he hasn't spent time with the English working class...
@@HarryBuxleyIt’s one thing having a different political view, but it’s another thing entirely when Campbell was responsible for the “sexed up dossier” which contained fake information about Iraq having WMDs. Without Campbell and his manipulation with the intelligence agencies, Britain would never have been involved in the war in Iraq. Not to mention that David Kelly, the weapons inspector who testified about Iraq’s nuclear and chemical weapons, committed suicide after he exposed during a BBC interview, that Campbell insisted he include a specific line saying Iraq’s WMDs could be deployed against Britain in “45 minutes”.
In short, Campbell is not just a political figure with controversial views. He is a political figure who has been directly involved with some of the darkest and most disastrous policy decisions in British history.
So out of touch. Rory just doesn't see the picture on the ground. 1st he says the working class/ex mining towns are just too complicated for the governments to tackle but then says he went to rural Afghanistan to set up initiative's, with his charity, to help the poor there. Why not try closer to home? That is what you were paid for when you were an MP. Even now there's nothing to stop you setting up a charity to help your fellow UK citizens.
He can get away with a lot of things in Afghanistan that he can't in the UK. Why do you think these rich people from the West love setting up so called charity organisations in 3rd world countries. It's all a facade. They're helping no one, but themselves.
Exactly my thought…
With respect, is there anything stopping you from setting up a charity in the UK to help your fellow citizens? The guy is at least doing something positive and your response is to criticise him
@@Ken-pi7qk I have done voluntary work for various groups for the last 40 years in the UK.
@@Ken-pi7qk Charity begins at home.
Rory Stuart is one of the good politicians he always talks sence
My favourite part of this chat was when Chris described the hopelessness and poverty of north England and Rory starts talking about the aboriginals of Austrailia?? It's totally fascinating to me that a British man as well traveled, as well educated and as well connected as Rory Stewart is less familiar with, less passionate about and less interested in the fate of his own people than that of the Afghanis. And the irony is he's speaking about systemic issues in Britain.... If I don't laugh I'll cry
Privately educated men from the South East of England frequently know very little about vast swathes of England compared with what they know about other countries. The weekend skiing trips to France or Switzerland don't given them any time to travel round their own country.
There are good charities and bad same goes for NGO'S There are a lot of bad stories about NGO'S.
Not sure you listened to him talking about The north of Uk , the dominace of London etc well before he mentioned any other areas France US , Austrailia etc
@@deasybamford1833 He didn’t mention that, Chris did…
Someone shud build them a few factories to export goods to china and mk a big come back.
How about try the thing the British public have been telling politicians for 2 decades and get immigration under control, we need wage growth, and we don’t get that with an oversupply of cheap labour.
As an Economist, you made exzellent Point. Well done.
The irony of a man involved in 2 murderous wars windbagging about mean tweets is beyond belief
Have you actually read his books or listened to his views on foreign intervention and how he feels about the Iraq war, as a direct result of his own experiences?
@@joannemoore3976he is wrong on many issues here. 100% the best way of bringing people out of extreme poverty is a cheap energy supply but it doesn't fit with the climate change agenda...( Bjorn Lomborg as done a lot of work in this field).... another point...he has seen what the horrors of fundamentalism can bring yet disconnects with the concerns of the indigenous Brits, the middle east is a testimony that democracy doesn't fit with a certain ideology, he knows this but is blinded.... bizarre disconnect. God bless objective truths 🙏
There is no objective truth on either side of the argument, only opinion. Opinions may be based on facts but everyone, you, me, Rory, everyone is slightly selective about the facts and will interpret them differently. So it is a fact that certain factions of Islam have carried out atrocities in the West. But the conclusions people draw from that are different. Like Rory I see that as no reason to attack innocent Muslims.
@@joannemoore3976 you presume there's no objective truths only opinions.....1&1=2, mathematics is the best tool we have for describing reality... objectivity..... and I did stipulate
"Fundamentalist ".....please look at the data, look at terror attacks and then the religiosity of those who perpetrate said attacks, ......I only wish all children of Abraham would unite 🙏 and the rest of the world to align 🙏
@@jackteare8292 no I accept there are some objective facts. But as I say even facts can be selected, given more or less weight, interpreted to mean particular things. I am not quite sure what yoi are saying..the original point was about Rory's involvement in wars. I don't think he is in any way denying radical Islam..he is simply saying that in this instance misinformation was used to incite trouble. Yes maybe the environment for that was there- it was a match in a tinder Bix.
Food for thought ...
In 1997, the ratio of the median house price to the median income in England was 3.5. Now it is 8.3. (The Economist)
Since 1997, the UK population has increased by 10million people.
ONS forecasts another 6.6m increase in next 10 years or so.
House prices are predominantly set by lending criteria, not population.
@@Pezerinno It's supply and demand, actually. Lending criteria just changes the cost of a loan, not of the houses themselves.
@@alex434343cash purchases make up a small percentage of house purchases therefore the cost of the loan very much determines how much houses are worth.
Low interest rates, manipulation of society to get both partners working and constant QE are the main cause of the increase in property prices.
Just to add I'm not pro immigration nor am I pro high asset prices but I don't think the two issues are linked.
@@Pezerinno I'm not saying its the only reason, but surely you can understand the logic that more people means more competition for housing, which means that sellers of houses can ask for a higher price? As the original commenter said... its basic supply and demand.
Immigration is not the only factor, but it is absolutely one of the most significant factors.
What about us Rory? What about the ordinary folk in the UK?
Absolutely. We are not only sidelined but silenced. And by a government who got only 17% of the potential vote. This is an authoritarian banana republic. Rory hasn’t a clue, or maybe he has and is simply pretending like th rest of the ghastly politicians.
@@pamelagaull3928we haven't got the climate to grow bananas
Great discussion 👍. Goodness me Rory, you must have traveled extensively to know so much about our world 🌎😊.
I left the UK, retired and very, very, tired of struggling to survive. Now happier than I've ever been in rural Egypt 😜
What comes to my mind as you are talking about the disparity between London and the rest of the UK, is the way people who CAN make ends meet, talk about those who are less fortunate. The attitude seems to be one of BLAME! I think this is fundamentally WRONG.
I hope and pray for enormous change because it's high time! The people of Britain have run out of 'cake'.
Good luck with everything ❤
No. This man is not the edgy, dangerous maverick he portrays himself to be. He was and is very much a part of the machine, intent on spreading 'The Message'.
Dear God grow up, how old are you, 5?
@@oliverpage8852 yes! He thinks he's edgy and thinks outside the box, it is funny really, he's Establishment Uniparty Elite
Rory may seem convincing regarding advocating to give directly to African nations, yet that’s exactly what we’ve been doing for decades.
The continent has receives 40x over the entire amount of the ‘Marshal Plan’ - the aid loaned to rebuild Europe post WWII. Yet Africa did not build, they’ve squandered the money via corruption & mismanagement.
Not true, most of the money never reaches the country for them to squander it.
Well now the Chinese are taking a stab at it! 🤔
@@oliveoil7642The Chinese have had more success because they often build infrastructure instead of giving money. Where Britain gives cash directly to African governments, the Chinese build roads, hospitals, airports and schools as a form of payment. This is a win-win because the African nation gets material benefit via new infrastructure, but it also means no money can be lost via corruption. It also allows the Chinese government to issue construction contracts to major construction companies from China, which creates jobs for Chinese labourers and therefore adds to their economy.
@@XxxULTIMATEZxxX Sounds like their leadership utilizes much more long term thinking . Many politicians in the West are just plain arrogant and inept unfortunately!
Rory is now a massive advocate for Give Directly. Precisely because charities and aid organisations usually squander the money.
It’s the bureaucracy that swallows the money up.
Give directly cuts out the middle man
Saying that people are leaning away from “liberal democracy” and towards “populism” is stupid.
If what we’ve had all this time was truly “liberal” or “democratic” then people wouldn’t be looking for something else because a liberal democracy is meant to be populist. People are looking for populism because they need someone who actually listens to them. But as it has been shown, the people in every country in the west has been given the middle finger and a combination of totalitarianism and corporate oligarchy has take root. People have had enough. Governments say they are democratic but ignore the will of the people. That is literally the definition of undemocratic.
You don't know what you're talking about. Liberal democracy and populism are, by definition, incompatible with eachother. Populism says that the will of the people must always prevail. Liberal democracy says the will of the people must prevail as long as people's individual rights are protected. If a populist wins a referendum saying that all ethnic minorities must be deported, they would say that's legitimate, because the people voted for it. A liberal democrat says no, you can't do that, because these people's rights are protected by law.
'Western' governments are self serving oligarchys.
liberal democracy isn't populism.. I'm not sure who told you they were the same but they're not.
Government don't ignore the "Will of the People" for every voter who thinks like you, there is someone else who doesn't.. that generates challenges and slows/stops things from happening..
your problem fundamentally is not that many people agree with you..
Absolutely stunned by the lack of ownership by Rory here. He was the minister in charge of allocation of $20bn per year of UK taxpayers money for international development, admits 80-90% is wasted, and did not take steps to radically change it. So %18bn a year. Act as a leader make the change. Make it simple, 90% is spent on the ground, fire all the consultants and everyone else who is not required to deliver that. Otherwise you obliterate the confidence of the citizens of the country because their tax monies are simply transferred to this “machine” technically delivering the aid - when it is only delivering money into their own pockets. Rory it is theft.
Not to justify anything but he was in government for less than 2 months.
Rory Stewart may not appear bad-ass, but he is properly bad-ass.
Walking on foot across Afghanistan and Iran and staying with local families at a time when there were very real risks to Westerners is pretty damn gutsy, in my estimation.
And yet all done for his own 'character development', with no positive downstream benefit for the people of Afghanistan or the UK. He just did it to sound more interesting at dinner parties.
@@goldie-fk6lr You don't think making an effort to understand other cultures is beneficial? How much has Afghanistan suffered from the epistemic arrogance and hubris of Bush, Blair, etc.?
@dant3175 you are right, particularly with regards to what you say about Bush and Blair. However, it isn't pertinent to the question of how 'useful' vs 'useful sounding' Rory Stewart is.
I submit that Rory is: satisfied with being the latter, careless of the distinction, and / or self-deluding with regards to the difference between the two.
@@goldie-fk6lr Yet if you listen to him talk about his time in government, his chief complaint is being thwarted in getting things done by a culture of personal ambition and PR, by random cabinet shakeups, and by ill-thought-out regulations. He strikes me as very much a man impatient to get things done, which also tallies quite well with his impressively varied CV; working in the Foreign Office (my guess is he was MI6, fits the profile perfectly), the Army, as an MP, a minister, for NGOs, and now as a university lecturer/podcaster too. Not too shabby, even for someone posh.
Do a little research into his 'Army career', and you will see exactly the superficial CV coloring I am referring to.
The sad part is people like him get away with it because there are legions of people like you who get taken in by the glossy veneer and fail to ask further questions.
Are you, perchance, the type of person who would think of Bear Grylls as being roughly the same as a 22 SAS veteran, with multiple tours? Just a shot in the dark, but I'd be curious to know.
I spent over a decade in Afghanistan, working with many different NGOs and organisations.. I reached out to Rorys organisation for advice on getting Afghan friends to safety..Never even got a sorry, we cant help reply...His podcast with Campbell I find quite nauseous.
So, you suffered one narcissistic hurt and you rubbish both of 'em, eh? Truly one fragile ego.
@TrevorBarre I think Mr Campbells ego is a tad more fragile than my own sir.
I enjoy conversations with this Chap and read his book about walking across afghanistan. But I only have one shallow comment to make. Rory Stewart looks like the love child of a combination of every member of The Rolling Stones.
What a brilliant description
Seeing Rory is best friends with top establishment, war criminal himself Alistair Campbell, I won't be listening to a word he has to say about anything in this podcast. One to miss.
Exacttly this!!
The man who bullied a Dr to self end. A true mental health champion.
I bet Rory is quaking in his boots at the idea of losing you.
@@TrevorBarre your sarcasm is blunted by the fact they are both probably psychopaths, so probably lack fear. In the way you insinuate it, anyway.
This interview was mich better than anything I have seen on "The Rest is Politics". Rory is one of the best public intelectuals the UK ever had.
Rory Stewart is one of the most lucid and balanced British politicians and thinkers.
We can notice, however, that most comments here are negative about him.
Most people prefer wrong but simple "solutions" rather than complex and nuanced choices.
"Two percent of the people think. Three percent of the people think that they think. And ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think". SHAW, George Bernard.
@@Molloy1951The sad thing is human nature hasn't changed in thousands of years
'Lucid and balanced British politicians and thinkers'. Please explain how he's anything more than vapid and sanctimonious?
Simple slogans and solutions for simple minds... the essence of the appeal of popularism. The trouble is that it is spoke by charlatans who never deliver.
Simple "solutions" are attractive to people, you can see this in the evolution of the political sound bite over the last 20 plus years. There is almost no in depth analysis on free to air and hence people tend to revert to the social medias , which by their very nature and algorithms reinforce already held views, that and people are lazy.
Can Rory name one islamic state where there is a non-islamic religion that is thriving?
I can. The UAE. Don't ask me how.
@@duncefunce1513Very difficult to become an emirate citizen. You can work there but can never become a local.
@@Craig-ls6rv fair doos, I know little about it. But I gather there is a large Christian demographic.
@@duncefunce1513 I don’t think there’s one church. They are however quite westernised compared the rest of the Muslim world. They have to be as tourism is their lifeblood and the oil will eventually run out!
Iran's Jews do well and won't move to Isreal
The murders were clearly hate crimes based on race. Yet this guy just says the murderer was a Christian born in England as if that makes everything else irrelevant.
The killer was a Christian born in Wales, UK.... did not mention England. So there was no reason to target a Mosque was there. We still do not know why the killer targetted the Taylor Swift dance class... to my mind it was something based on a mental health reason.
@@shuunyaHis parents were from Africa. Stabbings are commonplace between black youths in London and Africans on the whole. We simply don’t want that happening here in the UK. The truth might hurt some people but tough shit.
PS: Yes, a crowd gathered around a Mosque but no larger than the Muslim crowd protesting outside the Manchester police station after one of their own was kicked ( after he broke a policewoman’s nose no less)
religious fundamentalism targets women and free expression.
Hence the assumption the attacker was religious.
Islam produces the most fundamentalists, being 500 years behind.
Rorys assessment of the riots is missing the key fact a guy turned up at the vigil with a knife, that kicked things off in Southport, spiralled from there
I am being a bit forward here.Rory Stewart is a careful thinker but also a romantic.I would love to listen to Rory Stewart talking to Tommy Robinson.He is also a romantic and has England at his heart .I am not sure some people who deride Tommy actually hear what he says.I think that Tommy Robinson is an honourable man.His only sin is that he does not belong to the right clique.
NAH, he's just a populist and a criminal making money off the grave train.
I had things to do this morning, yes, but then TH-cam algorithm brought this video to my phone and I couldn't stop listening and thinking about what you both said and thought. From start to end it was absolutely fascinating. I couldn't leave it.
So now I continue with my life with my brain happier, brighter and more comprehensive.
Thank you.
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Rory: Politicians just sit around and gossip about scandals.
Also Rory: Let’s give politicians the power to decide what people can and can’t say online.
British politicians are the most overpaid and indolent people on the planet!
Everything Rory said about Elon Musk is wrong. We should be careful about putting trust in someone who so profoundly misunderstands another person.
This guy is delusional. The reason the Taliban was fighting, during the war, was because we were invading their country. When they defeated us, the fighting stopped and we fled.
Yep, awful little neocon, glad he's outed himself as no longer a conservative.
Taliban expert eh?
If not… You know more about Afghanistan then than a diplomat who’s also walked across Afghanistan as a traveller, worked as a deputy governor in Iraq, set up and ran a charity in Afghanistan for several years and worked as the Secretary of State for International Development in the UK?
Not saying this guy is always right, but at least consider his opinion and background before calling him delusional…
The Taliban were built up from orphans by the Pakistani ISI with plentiful funding by the USA government. Aim - regime change of the socialist government in Kabul and bleeding the Russians.
So, yet another nice mess from the Washington neocons.
No one has ever won a war in Afghanistan, look back through history.
@@tobysimeons Classic example of the Dunning-Kruger... Keyboard warriors who can barely read or write slinging mud at people who are at an advanced stage of evolution to them. The faux outrage and self-righteousness would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. Stewart has been very critical of the neo-con philosophy and was never really a tub-thumper for Dubya, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Blair et al. He was a professional civil servant and an intelligence officer who understands the system more than 99% of the population.
Very enjoyable discussion, interesting questions, interesting conversation.
A taxi driver told me a story many years ago off an English lord's opinion of politics - He said the first son always inherits , so no problem there, the second destined for the church - But the third, usually thick as they come, with no particular intelligence was expected to go into politics !!!! Over the years I have realised none of the offspring from a very wide social circle have chose politics , which says a lot about the scarcity of good politicians!!!
"If we didn't left the EU, we would got young Europeans instead of young people from other areas".
Yes, keep telling this BS to yourself buddy...
(Just look to Germany or France for once...)
We would have both.
@@Applepie409Anyone but British people doing British jobs.
@@XxxULTIMATEZxxX Blame business reliance on cheap labour.
well clearly we would have gotten a higher ratio of Europeans compared to what we do now, that's completely obvious. you don't think that's true!?
@@jammydodgerthefirst It would be an extremely marginal difference. In 2022, only 10% of total migrants into the UK were from EU countries. In Germany in 2023, only 24% of all migrants were from EU countries. There has been a strong general trend across Europe of increased non-EU migration over the last 4 years in particular.
Can Rory put his mind to helping / solving crime in London . Who cares about these other places in the world ?????
who cares about london
He's a decent enough bloke, but his perspective is that of an old Etonian who lives in a posh part of London. He has never had a normal job or lived in a working class community. These days he's a member of the chattering classes. I think his views on the UK should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Snobbery is a universal privilege ;)
I think he lived in his Carlisle constituency for a long time.
The riots …. Rory didn’t address the nuances, just like the msm and the Labour government.
Yes, the perpetrator was not born abroad and was not born to Muslim parents. But the random butchery was reminiscent of the massacres in July 2005 and Manchester Arena and London Bridge and Bataclan …. only worse. Three little girls at a dance party, many others scarred for life.
He didn’t address the pent up resentment over the grooming rape gangs , the previous massacres, the government disrespect of the natives in allowing so many Muslims both through regular immigration and illegally via the channel. There is HUGE resentment over the creeping Islamisation / Lebanonisation yet Rory touched none of it.
A terrible thing has happened over the last few years. Disability rates have had a massive SPIKE. I have seen many people who are a shell and shadow of what they were before 2021. This happening has decimated lives and this is having and will keep having a massive ripple effect. Our community and society is just an extension of individuals. Evil evil people but no-one can speak the truth. Life will never be the same. I wish it was at least acknowledged and some help was given to those whose lives are ruined.
Chris almost said it when he said ' the bababa'
From what I can tell as an American, this guy sounds like the problem.
an american giving an opinion on politics anywhere especially within their own country isnt the greatest idea
He is definitely part of the problem. Unfortunately the intellectual deficiency of parts of the UK electorate exacerbated the problem.
He is the enemy within.
@@squeesmyth9025Why? You don’t know anything about this American.
As a European from the continent I agree.
Why should the people calm down?
because its being compared to blm type riots and most of the time people dont know why they are rioting , except an excuse to loot snd have a bit of fun
The British parliamentary system is actually a 5 year dictatorship. Each MP has a mandate from local voters, but after they arrive in parliament, they are ‘wipped” into voting according to the party leader’s policy direction. Therefore they have no real freedom to reflect local opinion. Occasionally a Green, Respect, Reform, independent gets in locally, but they have no policy impact. The current labour government was elected on 33% of those who voted, probably 25% if you count the 7 million who could have voted but didn’t. The system does not reflect the mass of people, and disillusionment or protest emerges.
It was a fraction under 21% of the total electorate including those who didn't vote. It was 20.8% based on the initial data as I calculated it the day after the result, but a couple of constituencies were still to declare.
Or to put it another way "none of the above" got double the vote that kier starmer got.
@@daveharrison61 thanks very much for that info. I’ll quote that from now on. 👍
So one in five of those eligible to vote handed Labour a two thirds majority - what does that say about democracy?
I am in aura of Rory Stuart. Just an enormous pleasure to listen to him. He is a real national treasure. I wish there were more people like him. Thank you!
If Stewart's answer doesn't begin with "It's the fault of people like myself", there's no value in the rest
That's a great way to write off anything you don't wnt to listen to - if it doesn't confirm your existing views then don't engage with it. Brilliant!
@@Rendell001 The man literally responded to the British people voting for Brexit by leaving the government whose job it was to enact Brexit.
Exposed himself as anti-Democratic.
The question was asked about how direct cash payments can go wrong-well, Afghanistan. We threw around 100s of billions of dollars in cash and most of it was stolen. The Afghan elite were literally flying pallets of cash to UAE and we knew it. In large part, we funded the insurgency against us. The American taxpayer is now suffering greatly now due to such incompetence and yet to this day we are sending 10s of millions of dollars in "humanitarian aid" to the Taliban.
Why does he care so deeply about fixing Africa? Since when is it the responsibility of Europeans?
They kicked European elites out of Africa in the 1950s and 1960s
true. what connection europe even has with africa, right? the times of greedy looting is long gone, it is time to relax.
Apart from just empathy for other human beings, we should care out of sheer self-interest.
At the end of this century, Africa is projected to have the two most populous mega-cities on the planet: Lagos and Dar es-Salaam, which will be home to around 90 million people each.
Africa is a massive, resource-rich continent, and its population is the youngest on average.
In other words, it's very much a place of massive potential, a place for the future.
And China and Russia are very, very busy amassing influence there.
Considering the current effect of poverty there, of instability, and the resulting migrant flows to Europe, NOT caring about fixing Africa is extremely short-sighted.
@@dant3175 No one asked you to save them. They are not helpless babies without you
@@MarchonWestminster Lots of people there live in abject poverty and die preventable deaths.
Watched two interviews today this one and another with TR by Richard Gannon. It seems the problem with the UK is the middle class just do not get or understand the working class. In the past classes in Britain pulled in the same direction with a love for their country, but now the Middle classes are going against the working classes not realising the immigrant classes, though hard working, don't generally have the same love for the country.
Actually in retrospect it becomes obvious the rich see the world in global terms and the poor just have the world around them. Each are disconnected from the other. In bygone years the rich needed the poor, now they are just an inconvenience
As someone who has worked in delivery of assistance to poor areas he is spot on,so much waste in delivery of assistance.
You were not elected by the people of China, Sub Saharan Africa or the people of the poorer parts of the EU. You were elected to make life better for your constituents. Not to help others get enough capital together to be able to afford to come to invade our country.
Dominic Cummings > Rory
It's a good job he stayed in frontline politics where he can make a real difference....oh...wait
Yeah, dumped his wife got an American one and joined the CIA funded think tank gravy train.
If you can’t convince people in Afghanistan and Irak to become woman-friendly, democracy friendly, why would you succeed when they freely decide to settle in your country and you feel like you’re a good person by letting it happen ?
Great Job. Thought provoking podcast
I was in a conversation with an economics professor, and he was absolute convinced that every immigrant was economically beneficial, would pull their weight in taxes, no risk to public health or safety , even though we know nothing about the people coming across the border.
We saw this with Covid: the epidemiologists had no clue about basic economics, and it sounds like your Prof friend has no clue about Islamic theology.
In the case of the recent British riots we keep getting told that the violent protests were fuelled by misinformation/disinformation stating that a Muslim immigrant from Syria was the perpetrator of the stabbing death of three young girls.
That is where the narrative stops, where people like this particular guest, try to set the limits of analysis.
The frame of reference for discussion about the recent unrest in Britain is then the underlying currents of racism in the country.
What is never pursued is the following question: why were so many people predisposed to believe that such a heinous act must of been committed by a Muslim extremist ?
Why was the rumoured identity of the attacker that of a Muslim Syrian refugee rather than a second generation Sikh or recently arrived Nigerian Christian?
What is it that has been going on in Britain and virtually every other western nation that makes the native populations so conditioned to believe that such a barbarous act must have been perpetrated by one particular group?
The answer MUST be racism rather than the idea that another much more widely held held human trait might of been in play, that of human pattern recognition.
I admire your anti racist stand but the question is simply answered by the facts on the ground, not just in the UK but, also in many European countries, the great majority of knife killings especially those that are abhorrent in nature are committed by Moslem men. And, that is a situation that needs to be discussed openly rather than be hidden under the carpet by police or politicians. And, while on the subject of racism the moslems are more disparaging of their white neighbours than the other way around. Another subject that should be surfaced for discussion. Racism is not a two tier subject and communities, politicians and police need to deal with the realities of racism and the causes openly, rather than the current attitude to let the matter fester in the hope it will go away. I fully support the eradication of all racism and the equal treatment of all citizens but, the current political correctness and shame attached to speaking about the problem is only making it worse and I for one despair at the ignorance and stupidity of pretending this can only be condemned rather than discussed.
No news for weeks on what motivated the 17 year old murderer in Southport. Why?
@@thorkushari4027 Radicalised in Newport? If not they would be telling us something
@@thorkushari4027open you eyes, this was no doubt another “false flag” to create confusion, division and remove the focus from the atrocities going on in the ME….
Social media trolls. Duh.
Let's be honest, the most that gets done in any UK town/city is a new shopping centre with a different fountain.......year after year- yet your taxes go higher and higher for less and less
The GDP per capita in the UK is lower than the state of Mississippi. Think about that for a minute
Really?? My word
@@matthewgriffith2465 yep. And thats WITH the inclusion of London which skews the stats already. Outside of London it is an incredibly poor country, unfortunately
Not quite. The UK is at 47k , the same as Germany, and 17% higher than France at 40k.
The state of Mississipi is 39k.
Italy is 34k, Spain is 29k, Portugal is at 24k.
Americas debt slaves, sorry, her 'Allies' are on their knees.
@@realMaverickBuckley do any other countries have debt slaves?
@@realMaverickBuckley2022 UK GDP per capita: £33.5k, multiply by 1.3 to get dollars. Dunno where you got your 47k from, london per capita?
And this isn't taking into account millions of uncounted illegals
Rory’s heart’s in the right place. That’s more than you can say for most politicians.
1000%.
Thank you for this interview. It is incredibly sad though that even when someone like Rory Stewart who acutely aware of the deep issues breaking our society/world, would not be able to acquire the power to do anything about it. The lunatics are in full control of the asylum. I think we need to detach ourselves from this horribly failed system - simply ignore it and work on creating something that's actually beneficial to society.
The issue... I would say it is an ethnic issue. That is my polite way, and safe way, to say it. But, of course, these days no one will say the truth.
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Oh they accomplished exactly what they wanted to get accomplished over there. It’s just that what they told us was the goal, wasn’t the real goal.
Please elaborate. Be specific. Tired of this vague Carlsonesque "THEY don't care about you" bullshit.
Yes, Afghanistan and Iraq were the most expensive failures in the century so far, but all is not lost for the military industrial complex. They have Ukraine to keep the transfer of wealth from taxpayers to corporate entities going for decades to come.
Exactly - wars are just an underhand scam to transfer taxes to corporations and shareholders. 90% of those slaughtered in Afghanistan and Iraq were innocent civilians sacrificed to enrich the already rich.
You wanna have Russia take over Ukraine? The country that has almost 2/3 of the most fertile soil on the planet and let Russia dictate foodprices in most developing countries and even to parts Europe?
Yes you haven't said that, because you don't inform yourself, but that is the consequence if Russia wins.
Israel says 'hello' too.
Excellent conversation! Lovely to hear charity giving directly rather than organisations taking it all
What a wonderful guest! I learned so much!
@11:52 Re Liz Truss. She became prime minister because the Tory Party membership were only permitted a vote when it was a choice between Truss or Sunak. The membership took the decision that Sunak was not to be trusted. The membership was correct.
Sunak was so utterly unconservative, so obviously rubbish, he turned an eighty seat Tory majority into a Labour super-majority.
You want to talk about incompetence Rory? Well, Sunak is exhibit A.
He failed on immigration but did try but labour would block every avenue knowing theyd get in if he failed. Just my opinion.
@@chris379202Sunak did not try to reduce immigration. Sunak had zero intention of reducing immigration. Sunak is a puppet of the billionaires at Davos, as is Starmer. Sunak and Starmer see eye-to-eye on mass, destructive immigration. It's their programme (or more accurately, it's their master's programme) and it's working.
But, but but, he might be called racasisst if he admitted that
Liz Truss was appalling on every level. Ruined the economy. Poor communicator. Rory's critique of her poor track record in government was correct. She blames everyone else for her failings except herself. I wish her a quiet and permanent retirement from British politics.
@@davegold Sunak was appalling on every level. Poor communicator, oily and disengenuous. Raised mass immigration to country destroying levels. Rory is as dodgy as Sunak. Rory is a member of Le Cercle, something he doesn't mention in his book and something he is uncomfortable being asked about.
Florence of Belgravia has accepted the Gramscian cultural revolution. So he simply isn’t a conservative.
Giving money directly to poor people only helps if they're in a position to use that cash effectively. If they're in a society that doesn't respect property rights, it'll get stolen. If they're in a society that doesn't value strong ethics, it'll get embezzled. If they're in a society that doesn't have ready access to the stuff they need, you'll increase the price of that stuff without solving anything.
This is why the Marshall plan worked, while throwing money at sub-Saharan Africa has not.
Most of the embezzlement happens long before the people on the ground get the crumbs. Eaten by bad white men in the supply chain, consultants, advisers, etc.
Very true. I've lived in South Africa my whole life. "African Socialism" (i.e. a mediaeval system of chiefdom/patronage) is funded by donors and makes the population weak, dependant, unskilled, uneducated and unimaginative. Everyone's sole priority is to puncture the resource pipe to steal their bit, not to build their skills and abilities. It's a valueless, unproductive system, fully enabled and instrumentalised by donor controllers.
@@mk3kxc4u That may well be true; I'd be interested to see some data on it.
@@willerwin3201 I'll get back to you with data. The data from charity organisations Oxfam, Save the Children, etc., is commonly available. The data for aid through Country to Country donations is a little more difficult to flush out. It may take me a day or two. Incidentally aid through the United Nations, is the most porous.
worked in india and china
southport stabber (rwandan parents) was not indigenous british. They have had enough of migration now and they went through a massive islamist rape attack on non-muslims that went on for decades and were told they couldnt complain or they were racists. They have had enough. Changing a country's demographics against the will of the people is evil.
Rory Stewart is one of the few men around who has a grasp on Afghanistan. He walked across the country and even speaks Pashtu. He's the genuine article.
Having been raised in a poor, rural community and having later both deployed to Afghanistan and done international humanitarian aid there, this guest makes great points.
Case in point, I helped build a courthouse in Southern AFG. With the salaries of myself, the US/UK engineers, anti-corruption experts, security, safe house staff, procurement specialists, monitoring and evaluation specialists, not to mention the uparmored Hiluxes, sustainment and "life support" we received for that project could have easily built that courthouse ten times over.
@@HarryBuxley you might be surprised to find out many comments here are written by foreign adversaries.
@@HarryBuxley to be honest, I didn't know much about this gentleman either. I know the organizations he's worked for, and some of the subject matter he spoke about. I also understand that many of his opinions and positions are formed by experiences that most people will not have, particularly with respect to international development. It's sad, but not unexpected to have folks offer really bad takes on the subject. It's one of those subjects where the dunning-kruger effect seems to make a strong appearance.
And that isn't even counting the money we poured into the Afganistan project when the Soviets were in there!
And now all those false promises of security for assistance are arriving by boat
This guy thinks he is Lawrence of Arabia they used him, and they will use him.
More like we used them and now they're arriving by boat because they were promised security and safety
Rory is/was MI6 ( common knowledge among London media class)
-that’s why he walked across Afghanistan
Brilliant discussion, I enjoyed listening to that
Thank you Gentlemen
Love listening to politicians being interviewed on podcasts, much better than main stream media