San Fernando Waterfront Development

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  • What has really happened with Trinidad's San Fernando Waterfront Development Project by UDECOTT since its announcement in 2019. This project promised great things for San Fernando Trinidad with the allure of an economic boost to San Fernando Trinidad. Apart from an area enhancement for the citizens of San Fernando, it touted a tourism benefit with things to see and do for tourists. So what is the status of the San Fernando Waterfront Development Project, where has it reached.
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  • @johnboi42
    @johnboi42 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    The waterfront is happening in 3 phases, with phase one being heavily interrupted by Covid which also coincided with the global drop in both oil and gas prices which severely hampered funding for the project. Another one of the biggest keep backs with the project has been the CECs (certificates of environmental clearance) which were finally approved in dec 2023 I believe. The Thorpe’s Garage next to the Rodriguez building is privately owned at the moment so the government doesn’t have jurisdiction over that, but the San Carlos plaza phase is the final phase of the project. The next major phase is the construction of the coastal sea wall and land reclamation. Phase 1 was the upgrade of the road from the gulf view link road down to the fish market. It hasn’t been fully completed as some more final infrastructure work has to be completed before the roadway can be completed. But if the work done or in progress is to be quantified it would be: road widening, relocation and demolishing of the pts garage, preliminary work on the mixed use condos at the site of the old ptsc garage by a private developer, construction of the parkade at the hospital, relocation of WASA’s water filling facility, relocation and construction of the customs house, construction of the new fishing facility / fish market (ongoing) and the clean up of the old TGR station. Ongoing is the relocation of squatters and residents in the area north of the former PTSC garage.

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you very much for that detailed breakdown of the project phases.

    • @johnboi42
      @johnboi42 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No problem, the thing is there are many necessary moving parts to this project that have to work in sync for speedy execution. You made mention that a resident in the area could show they have been there for 60 years and that is true so they would get an offer by the government to compensate. But there are other people who have been there for less than ten years that will get compulsory acquisition. They may put up a legal challenge, which would then stall the project further. Long story short, Udecott and by extension the government have to proceed cautiously AND correctly or they could face a lot of legal challenges that could stall the project.
      A perfect example would be the new fish market. I was there for the public consultation, and an owner of boats, who does not live in San Fernando more or less promised to stall the project if he did not get his way. Whether politically motivated or personally driven, the shear size of the waterfront project presents lots of opportunities for persons to intervene and hinder progress

    • @johnboi42
      @johnboi42 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Also, with regards to the boardwalk area, the pavement is part of the primary infrastructure. The boardwalk and cycle lane cannot be constructed until the seawall and costal defense system built. This section will go out about 30 meters from the shore to include the footpath three nodes jutting out into the sea and landscaping.
      The green spaces will be in the areas north of the current fish market and the existing fish market along with some of the other buildings in the area will be designated as historic building and listed with the national trust, based on a study that was carried out 6 years prior by the National Trust and an external agency.

    • @matelanmungal9807
      @matelanmungal9807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      U have 2 b d project manager good job

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@johnboi42 Thank you for the additional information.

  • @victordoom7629
    @victordoom7629 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Its very easy to understand my friend. PNM = 0 progress

  • @judy-annmcneill1037
    @judy-annmcneill1037 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I love the optimism with which you approached your journey. Moreover am thankful that you highlighted the plans the Government had or has for this area. Good know your country tour.

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you

  • @YTChiefCritic
    @YTChiefCritic 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Harris Promenade was originally called 'Plaza San Carlos' before being named for Lord Harris who said of Trinidadians, 'their greatest pleasure is in being idle'. An observation that has changed little today.

  • @bushman.22
    @bushman.22 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Nice video & good info also , well done .

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you

  • @camilledwarika8207
    @camilledwarika8207 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video as usual nice seeing you too

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you

  • @victorsooknarine7471
    @victorsooknarine7471 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank You For The Information Dear Sir ..🖖

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@victorsooknarine7471 You are welcome

  • @jeanelaine
    @jeanelaine 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How much luxury housing does tnt need why not affordable housing????

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I wonder the same thing.

  • @shqa574
    @shqa574 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is what you might term, "Very Slow Progress in Motion". Unfortunately, with development, there will be displacement. This sounds like some well-to-do individuals invented the development plan.

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I like that term

    • @matelanmungal9807
      @matelanmungal9807 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      O yeah boy u from carenage,Diego Martin ,pot ah spain maracas curepe ,arima sangre grande,manzanilla,mayaro Rio claro,princesstown,point fortin cedros couva,an tabaquite u is a boss u from all over LOL

  • @matthewtrin
    @matthewtrin 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It [seems to be] that the residents are keeping back the pace of the project substantially. You can also see this with aspects of the project that are nearly done, like the road widening project. There is a house/shop literally on the roadway itself making it impossible for two cars to traverse (this part of the road is closed even).

    • @mrrjonathanh
      @mrrjonathanh 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That has been so since the original plan for the development was rolled out.

  • @Anthony-un3vy
    @Anthony-un3vy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The PoS Coach I took was headed from San Fernando to Erin for a day return trip. Everything looks the same at the bus terminal. The plans for that small beach to accommodate high rise condo owners...Oh well...looks like Westmoorings without shopping area potential or rec area to offset no beach access

  • @teddeonarine6281
    @teddeonarine6281 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember an article in the newspaper with a guy living on the waterfront who had a Date Palm tree growing on "his" property. I believe that is the article you spoke about.

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Correct, that was the article

    • @anthonymohammed5014
      @anthonymohammed5014 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That was the article sir date palm trees

    • @mrrjonathanh
      @mrrjonathanh 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is there a link to the article? My uncle planted that tree when he was with Forestry.

  • @terrysookhoo2528
    @terrysookhoo2528 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Everything in tnt will fade away jus lik d trains we had

    • @Rman775
      @Rman775 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The 'trains' in T&T were old and inefficient ones from the 1800's that had no place in a modern state.

  • @kevangildharry3884
    @kevangildharry3884 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I really wanted to see a boardwalk but it looks like they not doing that.

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It certainly looks that way.

    • @mauricehalfhide3982
      @mauricehalfhide3982 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They don't want the boardwalk activity to bother the luxury people.

    • @ricko2301
      @ricko2301 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mauricehalfhide3982 y'all just making up all kind of stupid talk. The boardwalk will be built

    • @mauricehalfhide3982
      @mauricehalfhide3982 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ricko2301 k dude

  • @packagepally8233
    @packagepally8233 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the update on this project,..!👏🏿It does seem like it's taking a long time... Hope progress speeds up as time goes along. Great job 🥰

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you

  • @marciagibbons3981
    @marciagibbons3981 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be a positive mode and progression for the people in the area. Hopefully the displaced individuals will be compensated or moved to an area where they can cont thriving.

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know that the movement of the people is one of the things that is moving slowly as the people are not happy with what is offered.

  • @michaelboodansingh1773
    @michaelboodansingh1773 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    those fish vendors is some menace during the morning period, literally vending on the left lane causing a bottle neck

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can imagine the traffic it causes.

  • @allisonchevalier3656
    @allisonchevalier3656 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Left south 34 years ago, I see no change.

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There has been little change in that area.

    • @olivewilson6636
      @olivewilson6636 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You should make a trip because I'm much younger and ive seen soo much change. I think people get use to the now that they forget what was. I stayed north for 7 years and south seemed so different. Im not saying some stuff isn't the same but to say it's completely the same would be wrong. There are many stalled pieces of the waterfront but there has been slow progress on it. I'm not sure exactly why but it seems the road has stalled out and it's unclear if its because the owners don't want to move or not.

    • @magikindian
      @magikindian 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@olivewilson6636 that's absolute rubbish. You are impressed by a few new buildings and a ton of new facades? Please dude.

  • @FIRSTWORLDSTATUSBY
    @FIRSTWORLDSTATUSBY 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    we should never build any waterfront in Sando... for the simple reason that we have to BORROW money for this... and all this government is doing is borrowing and borrowing for our fcking children and grandchildren to pay... if they had to take out money from their pockets they ain't doing shit.... we only going deeper and deeper into debt... and people should start to question these planned projects.... we simply DON'T HAVE THE MONEY to waste on stuff like this until we can do it without borrowing....

    • @ricko2301
      @ricko2301 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Everything done by governments is with borrowed money sir

    • @FIRSTWORLDSTATUSBY
      @FIRSTWORLDSTATUSBY 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ricko2301 and you are good with that? - no wonder we are a shithole.....

    • @raw0001
      @raw0001 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You have a point FIRST, but so does ricko.
      Governments simply have to borrow, to invest. It's a matter of monitoring and insisting that they ain't investing in themselves. But instead on infrastructure, healthcare, energy/water supply, housing, even such projects as this.
      But we also depend on the government to foster and promote a national and cultural evolution, to engineer a civilised' society/social identity.
      The question is what are WE doing to encourage and ensure that they are doing what is effective and beneficial in achieving that evolved, civilised society that is productive and beneficial to US ALL..

    • @FIRSTWORLDSTATUSBY
      @FIRSTWORLDSTATUSBY 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@raw0001 you have to understand that when you don’t have money and you need to do a hundred things, you have to PRIORITIZE using urgency and necessity and other parameters to determine what needs to be done first and foremost- just look at the state of our water supply and road conditions- clearly you are a supporter of the current government - i just hope you are not up to your throat in debt !!!

    • @raw0001
      @raw0001 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@FIRSTWORLDSTATUSBY.. clearly you're not very bright, if, having read my response, that is what you address me with. Instead of simply acquiescing to reason. You seem to simply want to argue/insult instead of promoting understanding and accord.
      I acknowledged your point, what point did you think, but suggested that government borrowing was an economic inevitability, that should be protected from corruption and urgently prioritised necessary expenditure for the collective benefit of the nation, and we concur with some of those national priorities. We are in accord here.
      I am not your average follower, to be led by the machinations of corrupt, incompetent deceivers .. the only government I'll support is the government that fulfills the requirements as previously stipulated. Because I also stated that good governance of a notion also included facilitating a valid national identity and a civilised society that works for all..
      You could of been much supportive of that notion, or you could of made a valid argument in disagreement. Thus we forward our understanding. So that we can simply accept that government is not like a household on a budget, but like any household on a budget, it has to borrow to provide some of the urgent necessities that cost beyond the monthly budget, like a house/car or a new dam/railway/coastal development. What do you not understand/disagree with..!!?
      Thus we further understanding and accord.. if we continue to argue, even when in accord, that's the recipe for misunderstanding and chaos.
      REPENT..!!!

  • @jeanelaine
    @jeanelaine 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hopefully these historic bldgs will be preserved and restored and not torn down!

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I really hope so.

  • @darthmanymen
    @darthmanymen 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i live in San Fernando and i didnt know this beach was there

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I am glad I was able to show it to you.

    • @tropics8407
      @tropics8407 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeh boy. Me too. 🧐😳 That could be a beautiful and functional beach. Squatters have claimed the entire place though. 🫤
      What is further south from there ? Mangrove ?

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tropics8407 Unfortunately I do not know.

  • @matelanmungal9807
    @matelanmungal9807 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What fish market u talk bout boy in meh dream

  • @matelanmungal9807
    @matelanmungal9807 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Boy Alice in wonderland project u might cry and flood out sando

  • @darthmanymen
    @darthmanymen 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    do a video on farallon rock

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@darthmanymen That is a good idea

  • @burtonsankeralli5445
    @burtonsankeralli5445 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Its hard in PNM country.

  • @Donvey
    @Donvey 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I also want to know what happened to the Tobago bridge that Rowley promised so much😂😂 These politicians are stupid

    • @magikindian
      @magikindian 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are not politicians. Trini people will fall for any scam

  • @musfazahosein7463
    @musfazahosein7463 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My friend you appear to be a stranger to the politics of the pnm. When they announce a project, don't expect to see it in your lifetime. If it is started, it usually takes forever to complete with over-runs and delays, and plenty people getting rich. So you have to live long enough to see the completion of such. Check the age of the Point Fortin highway. pnm highjacked that project and is now spending three times more to finish it in 2045, even though it was almost finished under the previous government.. So good luck my friend, if you live long enough you may see it halfway finished before you pass on.

    • @magikindian
      @magikindian 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We love the PNM. When you ride with those boys, you get rich fast. But when you ride with the UNC people, you are playing with your life.

    • @Ach1mW
      @Ach1mW 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Forget the political party thing but it is true, they have been advertising that for a minimum of 1 decade now. I know and remember because I saw the billboard almost every day on my way home, not to mention they did talk about it way back then but if the people are still looking forward to the type of development they expect.....then they have no clue.

  • @1rockfantic
    @1rockfantic 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good video. And by the way... everything you mentioned as being what you expected to see on the waterfront , boardwalk, etc., are actually part of the waterfront development....

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you liked the video. I know they said they would be putting in these hings but I had hoped to see more progress.

  • @matelanmungal9807
    @matelanmungal9807 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dong deh go b ah small Wes mooring

  • @anderson8601
    @anderson8601 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The PNM San Fernando waterfront project 2050.

  • @matelanmungal9807
    @matelanmungal9807 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    U from pat ah spain

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Actually I am from all over Trinidad. I have lived in Rio Claro, Tableland, San Fernando, Penal, Point Fortin and Port of Spain. I went to primary school in San Fernando and Point Fortin and secondary school in San Fernando. So I am truly from all over.

  • @jackedup2007
    @jackedup2007 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    At this rate, the PNM will have completed this in 2045. Thankfully we will have an election soon and finally get this project finished or at least redesigned and completed by the new NTA/UNC government.

  • @scotts5886
    @scotts5886 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    its a good idea but these guys cant really implement it without spending 4 to 5 times what it should really cost...

  • @nphipps9406
    @nphipps9406 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    everything takes a long time in most places

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very true

    • @Kimmy_95
      @Kimmy_95 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most places.....in Trinidad & Tobago

    • @nphipps9406
      @nphipps9406 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kimmy_95 😅😅😅

  • @burtonsankeralli5445
    @burtonsankeralli5445 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The idiots mash up what they had there I know the area.

  • @ricko2301
    @ricko2301 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You talking as if things can just be spoken into existence, things take time

    • @pointboy12
      @pointboy12  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I agree. It is just that I thought some of the developments would be further along.

    • @vadecheddie9880
      @vadecheddie9880 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, it takes time like 100 years

  • @ianbynoe6515
    @ianbynoe6515 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Trinidad broke, buddy. They ain't got money for big projects. A big board walk will cost a lot of money. 😅😂😢😅

  • @Ach1mW
    @Ach1mW 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Promises, promises and distractions as the world gets worse every month, its not going to happen, and if it does folks wont be enjoying it.....

  • @vidninjah
    @vidninjah 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    wishful thinking!

  • @ricko2301
    @ricko2301 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You don't even know what's going on, you're just running your mouth. Create your own project the way you want na

  • @peanutbutterjellyjam2179
    @peanutbutterjellyjam2179 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like somebody already left with the bulk of money, so the project wouldn't get going for a while.