@@asianindigs not really. she is still the worst vocalist in nmixx. worst and weakest are interchangeable but still, she's still a really good vocalist
@@eunhqverse worst and weak are both different in terms of adjectives of quality. Worst/Weakest are both superlative but their adjectives that describe the quality of a noun are dissimilar, so it should not rely to be interchanged
Arguably the bottom three in itzy are all interchangeable. Ryujin has the most weight in 3rd octave, legato. Chaer has some smooth mixed notes and Yuna has some bolder moments.
Jieun from Purple Kiss 😿 its so sad she had no screentime in pd48, and when she finally debuted, she was the first to leave the group. I hope she’s doing better
Ok, so everyone was in a good place, except for Purple Kiss members lol 1st.- Dosie DOES support, she is shallow, but she is not that inconsistent and has her good moments. She is around High weak (E+) or low weak to average at her best (D-) but that tier is not safe to give to her. She's somewhere around Chaewon Ireh is at least a underdeveloped since she gets very nasal, but has her moments of support (although, very shallow, but just as other E-/E vocalist, so she deserves the spot) she's over Minnie (and honestly Minnie is a F+, she haven't shown decent support in any recent materials so she doesn't deserves the E-, even IVE's Yujin is supporting more frecuently than her) Jieun is... debatable, bcz of her lack of materials is hard to rank her, so some people rank her in underdeveloped, but with the little materials we had, she can easily be around Weak/ High Weak, even as a low weak to average, but we need more materials from her, but they aren't coming very soon since she left the group. Around Dosie is a safe spot tbh Chaein is better than Swan in my opinion since she gets less unfocused than swan, and has her full supported moments so I really think she is on the low average/C- level, but Swan is shallow sometimes and with heavy tongue issues so ig Chaein>Swan. Either way, Swan is one of the strongests D+ in 4th gen. Chaein is around Sullyoon while Swan is behind both of them. Finally Goeun is debatable, I agree with the position of 'the best mid average' but she could easily get to high average if she starts showing some development around G3 or some C5's (or even head voice)
@@marquersurlalunehe is consistent, but she is shallow, czz of her underwhelming diaphragmatic engagment and muscle development, pretty much the same as most weak or some weak to average vocalists
@@elfy2006 no, this is kinda inaccurate, chaeryoung is definitely higher than ryujin. Search as many videos as you want they all say the same thing (no hate) yuna might be higher it depends but they are both on same level
@@L....F you were right cuz she can support more and she has also hit a high note that ryujin probably couldn’t. As for yuna they are pretty much the same
Karina is High D+, on par with Kyujin, whilst Giselle is D/D+ Karina=Kyujin>Giselle Ningning is still Low C+, she doesn't have the range or quality to be anywhere higher I agree, Winter is High C (maybe Mid-High but who cares?)
Personally id say 1)Lily Mid AA 2)Haewon Low AA 3)NingNing High A 4)Goeun High A 5)Yunjin High A 6)Winter Mid A 7)Sullyoon Low A 8)Chaein High W to A 9)Swan High W to A 10)Karina High W to A 11)Kyujin High W to A 12)Miyeon Mid W to A 13)Jinni Mid W to A 14)Giselle Low W to A 15)Lia Low W to A 16)BAE Low W to A 17)Jiwoo Low W to A 18)Yuqi Low W to A 19)Jieun Low W to A 20)Chaewon High W 21)Dosie High W 22)Yeji Mid W 23)Minnie Mid W 24)Ireh Mid W 25)Eunchae Underdeveloped 26)Soyeon Underdeveloped 27)Chaeryeong Underdeveloped 28)Yuna Underdeveloped 29)Ryujin Underdeveloped 30)Kazuha Underdeveloped 31)Yuki Underdeveloped 32)Shuhua Underdeveloped 33)Sakura Underdeveloped
@@chewieqtpieUnfortunatelly she has some issues with her placement and diaphragmatic engagment in general. She has some really shallow moments around A4/Bb4 in some occasions, for example coachella, nd big part of her best vocal moments arent live unfortunatelly. She often goes for a lighter and softer approach with pretty underwhelming chest coordination and resonance, she is either on the lower side of A to AA or just average, czz there r some high average vocalists like Haram or Goeun who showcased more consistency in their belting and a better grip over their chest voice
All of the top three are still low AA (with ningning catching up) jiwoo has better placement than bae and there's no way in hell sullyoon is average she is still high W/A
Im just thinking if only one of the nmixx member debut in itzy it would be nice, i know lily were suppose to be in itzy but nmixx got two B grade vocalist so it would better haewon in itzy since she is good dancer too@@elfy2006
The best: 1) Lily 2) Swan 3) lee goeun 4) Miyeon 5) Huh yunjin 6) Minnie 7) Yeji 8) Yuqi ______________ These are the most Unique and memorable voices i've ever heard in kpop .... *NingNing / Winter ( they are literally screaming more than singing ) * Lia has a unique but boring tone. * Hyewon/ Chaewon are the same . __________________
I think Kazuha should still be below Ryujin, Yuna, and Chaeryeong because Kazuha's vocals are very unstable, and for me Sakura's position should be ranked 32nd or 31st.
@@elfy2006 Hm, sorry if that seems "rude" to you, I tend to use "but why the hell" normally LOL But anyway, there is no reason to make a video about the best vocalists of an entire generation with the excuse of being just a group that you are stan... That's what I meant!!!
@@elfy2006 i just feel soyeon have a stronger voice and unique tone. I just watched both yuqi and soyeon lion solo and felt soyeon did better. Idk about singing techniques.
I'm sorry, I listen a lot to aespa, but... Why is Hiselle overranked? She is good, but in no universe will she ever be above any main vocals~ except for a few.
It's amazing how y'all overhyped kyujin vocal just because of that pre-debut cover, literally no one would rate her if people only heard her sing after debut.
@@elfy2006 okay first of all sorry if that sounded disrespectful🫶but but how is Giselle in the top ten above miyeon, Yeji, lia, Karina, all of gidle members literally soyeon is a better vocalist than her still no hate I love them all including Giselle but most vocalists on this list are better than her 😭
@@m363k4 you don't sound disrespectful, don't worry :) The fact is that Giselle vocals are really underrated. She is above Karina because she is less throaty
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the fact that bae is the ''worst'' vocalist in nmixx but is still more than halfway up this list says a lot
"Worst" is such a strong and drastic word ,it should be "weak"
@@asianindigs not really. she is still the worst vocalist in nmixx. worst and weakest are interchangeable but still, she's still a really good vocalist
@@eunhqverse worst and weak are both different in terms of adjectives of quality. Worst/Weakest are both superlative but their adjectives that describe the quality of a noun are dissimilar, so it should not rely to be interchanged
@@asianindigs but for this worst and weakest serve the same purpose
@@eunhqverse the "same purpose" but NOT the same objective so
lily is literally the 4th gen wendy
Arguably the bottom three in itzy are all interchangeable. Ryujin has the most weight in 3rd octave, legato. Chaer has some smooth mixed notes and Yuna has some bolder moments.
Lily and pitch accuracy are best friends
Yess
Goeun is so underrated. I thought that she is better vocalist but I always hear something like: “No, Swan is the best vocalist in PK”
I think people think that because of swan voice, bit technically Goeun is better :)
Goeun is some of the best vocalist of 4th gen.
Jieun from Purple Kiss 😿 its so sad she had no screentime in pd48, and when she finally debuted, she was the first to leave the group. I hope she’s doing better
Yes, she left because of anxiety issues, but she still in RBW so maybe she will comeback one day ...
nmixx and aespa's lowest being in the upper half that's queens
Ok, so everyone was in a good place, except for Purple Kiss members lol
1st.- Dosie DOES support, she is shallow, but she is not that inconsistent and has her good moments. She is around High weak (E+) or low weak to average at her best (D-) but that tier is not safe to give to her. She's somewhere around Chaewon
Ireh is at least a underdeveloped since she gets very nasal, but has her moments of support (although, very shallow, but just as other E-/E vocalist, so she deserves the spot) she's over Minnie (and honestly Minnie is a F+, she haven't shown decent support in any recent materials so she doesn't deserves the E-, even IVE's Yujin is supporting more frecuently than her)
Jieun is... debatable, bcz of her lack of materials is hard to rank her, so some people rank her in underdeveloped, but with the little materials we had, she can easily be around Weak/ High Weak, even as a low weak to average, but we need more materials from her, but they aren't coming very soon since she left the group. Around Dosie is a safe spot tbh
Chaein is better than Swan in my opinion since she gets less unfocused than swan, and has her full supported moments so I really think she is on the low average/C- level, but Swan is shallow sometimes and with heavy tongue issues so ig Chaein>Swan. Either way, Swan is one of the strongests D+ in 4th gen. Chaein is around Sullyoon while Swan is behind both of them. Finally Goeun is debatable, I agree with the position of 'the best mid average' but she could easily get to high average if she starts showing some development around G3 or some C5's (or even head voice)
I never thought that Yunjin has shown potential of producing resonance in her head voice
Yunjin has one of the best head voices of the 4th gen :)
But I never wrote that she produced resonance
What was the interest of your comment ? Being toxic ?
@@elfy2006 I guess no? I think they're just explaining smth on yunjin's head voice(?)
@@le4689 do you know this ktuber ?
And the only 4th gen female idol that I know who can produce resonance is nayul
I was confused why NMIXX members were out of /6 instead of /7 and what I realized, it hit hard.
Yes 😢
Jinni was my bias 😢
@@elfy2006 I dind.t see kazuha from lee sserafim
@@ghitaaitbellah543926. Kazuha
@@ghitaaitbellah5439 she's 26 on the list
Chaeryeong is F+, Yuna y Ryunjin son F-. Lia es D
Lily (B)
Haewon (B-)
Ningning (C+)
Winter (^C)
Goeun (^C)
Yunjin (C)
Sullyoon (C-)
Giselle (^D+)
Kyujin (^D+)
Karina (^D+)
Swan (D+)
Chaein (D+)
Jinni (D+)
Miyeon (^D)
Jiwoo (^D)
Bae (D)
Lia (E+)
Chaewon (E+)
Dosie (E+)
Yuqi (E+)
Yeji (E)
Eunchae (E)
Garam (^E-)
Jieun (E-)
Minnie (F+)
Yuna (F+)
Ireh (F+)
Chaeryeong (F)
Kazuha (F)
Soojin (F)
Soyeon (F)
Yuki (F)
Shuhua (F)
Sakura (F)
Ryujin (F)
Dont use letters its rather pointless and inaccurate
@@liftedb9591 Letters are basically a simplification of the simplification of tiers like proficient, weak, etc.
Sullyoon es D+/C-, Chaeryeong es F+
@@kpop9018 No
Técnicamente si
Vocal ranking (updated/ corrected) based on kva:
(Btw I don't know or stan Purple Kiss so I'll substitute them with IVE)
1. Lily (High AA/ B-)
2. Haewon (Low-Mid AA/ B-)
3. NingNing (Low A-AA/ C+)
4. Winter ((Mid-)High A/ C)
5. Yunjin (Mid A/ C)
6. Sullyoon (High W-A/ D+)
7. Karina (High W-A/ D+)
8. Kyujin (Mid-High W-A/ D~D+)
9. Giselle (Mid-High W-A/ D~D+)
10-12. Miyeon (Mid W-A/ D)
10-12. Liz (Mid W-A/ D)
10-12. Jiwoo (Mid W-A/ D)
13. Bae (Low W-A/ D-)
14. Chaewon (High W/ E+)
15. Lia (High W/ E+)
16. Yuqi (High W/ E+)
17. Yeji (Mid-High W/ E+)
18. Minnie (Underedeveloped / E-~E)
19. Yujin (Underdeveloped/ E-)
20. Eunchae (Underdeveloped?/ E-?)
I'm not gonna go down the rabbit hole of all F+ & F tiers since they're all interchangeable.
Dosie of purple kiss can support, she is Bb3/B3-G4/G#4
Oh really ? I saw an analysis saying that she can't but that she still of of the best F+
That's inconsistent I think so it doesn't really count.
@@marquersurlalunehe is consistent, but she is shallow, czz of her underwhelming diaphragmatic engagment and muscle development, pretty much the same as most weak or some weak to average vocalists
Nmixx - the Vocal Oueen❤
0:15 What? Chaeryeong isn't it better than Ryujin and Yuna? I thought she was the 3rd best vocalist in the group...
No, technically she is the weakest
But for me, she still sounds better than Yuna
The three don't support but yuna and Ryujin are a little better
@@elfy2006 👍
@@elfy2006 no, this is kinda inaccurate, chaeryoung is definitely higher than ryujin. Search as many videos as you want they all say the same thing (no hate) yuna might be higher it depends but they are both on same level
@@L....F you were right cuz she can support more and she has also hit a high note that ryujin probably couldn’t. As for yuna they are pretty much the same
@@sunshxne4you Ryujin showed improvements. I'm based on @hopeflakes analysis, if you know her, you know that she is unbiased
Lily is the best vocalist in Kpop industry ❤❤❤
not in the industry but in the 4th gen for sure !
@@elfy2006 yeah maybe I’m a too big fan of her, sure she’s not the best vocalist 😅 sorry ^_^
@@newjeans_bunny2207 no problem ! She is really an excellent vocalist and a good person ❤️
Nah Wendy, Solar, Hyolyn and Taeyeon are better.
@@vixxexo6855 it was just my opinion of course there is better vocalist than her but she is very talented anyway
Ningning has the best low notes in 4th generation ✨
Aespa has so good vocals 😭 like Giselle and Karina are better than some main vocalists 😭
@@elfy2006 ikr
Karina and Giselle are D+/C- and they both are better than Kyujin
And Ningning is low B-
Winter high C
Karina is High D+, on par with Kyujin, whilst Giselle is D/D+
Karina=Kyujin>Giselle
Ningning is still Low C+, she doesn't have the range or quality to be anywhere higher
I agree, Winter is High C (maybe Mid-High but who cares?)
Personally id say
1)Lily
Mid AA
2)Haewon
Low AA
3)NingNing
High A
4)Goeun
High A
5)Yunjin
High A
6)Winter
Mid A
7)Sullyoon
Low A
8)Chaein
High W to A
9)Swan
High W to A
10)Karina
High W to A
11)Kyujin
High W to A
12)Miyeon
Mid W to A
13)Jinni
Mid W to A
14)Giselle
Low W to A
15)Lia
Low W to A
16)BAE
Low W to A
17)Jiwoo
Low W to A
18)Yuqi
Low W to A
19)Jieun
Low W to A
20)Chaewon
High W
21)Dosie
High W
22)Yeji
Mid W
23)Minnie
Mid W
24)Ireh
Mid W
25)Eunchae
Underdeveloped
26)Soyeon
Underdeveloped
27)Chaeryeong
Underdeveloped
28)Yuna
Underdeveloped
29)Ryujin
Underdeveloped
30)Kazuha
Underdeveloped
31)Yuki
Underdeveloped
32)Shuhua
Underdeveloped
33)Sakura
Underdeveloped
Ningning has C5 how would she only be high A?
@@chewieqtpieUnfortunatelly she has some issues with her placement and diaphragmatic engagment in general. She has some really shallow moments around A4/Bb4 in some occasions, for example coachella, nd big part of her best vocal moments arent live unfortunatelly. She often goes for a lighter and softer approach with pretty underwhelming chest coordination and resonance, she is either on the lower side of A to AA or just average, czz there r some high average vocalists like Haram or Goeun who showcased more consistency in their belting and a better grip over their chest voice
lily is high aa though, and haewon is mid aa
Ningning is definitely A_AA
All of the top three are still low AA (with ningning catching up) jiwoo has better placement than bae and there's no way in hell sullyoon is average she is still high W/A
MENNIE LILY SULLYOON NINGNING YANA AND GOEUN😍😍😍
Nmixx forever! 🎉
Lia's pic reminds me of DREN from SPLICE
do you live in the Latata era? Minnie’s vocals haven’t been F+/E- for a long time now..
She hasn't support .... Because of her artistic choices (that I love !) She can't be higher
My ults are (G) I-DLE...
idk what JYP was thinking with Itzy, they really needed at least one decent vocalist
Yes, and then there is Nmixx lol
@@elfy2006 JYP overcompensated with Nmixx.
Im just thinking if only one of the nmixx member debut in itzy it would be nice, i know lily were suppose to be in itzy but nmixx got two B grade vocalist so it would better haewon in itzy since she is good dancer too@@elfy2006
Yuqi>>Chaewon>=Lia> Yeji
Chaewon is better than all of them she has the most consistency with A4s
whats wrong with you putting minnie so low when her voice is so beautiful lmao
Her voice is def one of my fav but this is about technique
The best:
1) Lily
2) Swan
3) lee goeun
4) Miyeon
5) Huh yunjin
6) Minnie
7) Yeji
8) Yuqi
______________
These are the most Unique and memorable voices i've ever heard in kpop .... *NingNing / Winter
( they are literally screaming more than singing )
* Lia has a unique but boring tone.
* Hyewon/ Chaewon are the same .
__________________
So you're speaking about your favourite vocalists, not the best
*Haewon has left the chat*
Kid 😂
Can you give me links about Ireh showed support ?
BTW Dosie can support
I'm based on @srynotsorry analysis, look at the community onglet, there is a big ranking with explanations and some links in comments
th-cam.com/video/Ma3SKWrVlp8/w-d-xo.html
there are more, Ill make a purki ranking video soon where I will show other moments.
@@srynotsorry4628 looking forward to it, there are a lot of new vocal contents from them in this cabin fever era both on yt and twitter
Will eunchae be able to support soon
If she got some vocal training, this is possible, but she is actually too inconsistent
What do these tiers mean?
This is according to your support range
Quick question, if Monday was included where would she be placed?
I don't know her vocal range with precision, but I think she will be at Ningning level
@@elfy2006 ok thanks
She'd be 4th
@@nswer_co. okay thanks
Below Haewon, above NingNing
I think Kazuha should still be below Ryujin, Yuna, and Chaeryeong because Kazuha's vocals are very unstable, and for me Sakura's position should be ranked 32nd or 31st.
Eunchae is E-
chaer yuna>>>ryujin
No technically
nope, yuna >= ryujin > chaer
Ningning queen of vocal
aespa: the younger=the better😎🤟🏻
maknae line slayy
@@elfy2006 maknea+vocalist=vocanea❤️🔥🫦
But why the hell do you always forget about Pink Fantasy? Yechan and SeeA would easily be in the top 5
But why are you rude ? I put groups that I stan and that I know !
@@elfy2006 Hm, sorry if that seems "rude" to you, I tend to use "but why the hell" normally LOL
But anyway, there is no reason to make a video about the best vocalists of an entire generation with the excuse of being just a group that you are stan... That's what I meant!!!
@@m.a2345 This is not a video about the best vocalists. Read the title.
Shuhua is last?
Yes, since she has a weak technic, pitch issue and weak live singing
Do haewon and lily have resonance?
I don't think no, the only 4th gen female idol that I know who can produce resonance is nayul.
But maybe one day, they are really excellent vocalists
Haewon is very very close
@@horus7416 yes, maybe one day both will have resonance
@@elfy2006what the heck nayul is not even 4th gen bro 🤧
@@elfy2006They have resonznt qualities but that's it
Solji : A
who is she ?
@@elfy2006 LOL. One of the best singers in KPop. You’re so ignorant about KPop.
@@NonstopFFriday did I said I know everything? Why being that rude ? This is about 4th gen girl groups that I stan, not every kpop idols.
@@elfy2006 You must be 92 years old. Get out of here old man.
Chaein should be above swan imo
Above swan ?!?!
@@elfy2006 yeah- their pretty much equal chaeins lows r better than swans
Lia is D-
No she is E+
@@elfy2006 her supported range is a3-bb4.. her d3s and d4s are also shallow and close to support sometimes.. check your info
@@befrr5 Check yourself, you can ask to @hopeflakes. Maybe she had recent improvements but I never heard about that so...
@@befrr5 Lia has many decent A4, but I really don't think that she supports Bb4
@@elfy2006 why, don't you have your own info??? If I need to ask her, then I would watch her videos only.. why would I watch your video then???
Ningning C+/B-
Not again but I think she is really close
Not yet
Chaeryeong is closer to support than Yuna and Ryujin.
None of them are close
Lia d/d+
No she doesn't have support above A4 and again
I think Yuqi is a D- now. (Correct me if im wrong)
Do u forget all the chaeryeong's high notes?
No. But they were all unsupported.
all strained
Imo,i think sullyoon is a better vocalist than winter.
Isn't soyeon better? She's really good. And not sure but miyeon not better than Giselle?
This is mainly about support range but if it wasn't she would be higher, she has better live vocals or range than some higher here
@@elfy2006沒錯，是關於支援範圍，然後應該是音域穩定度的支援範圍！
@@Hsupingyuanlovekpop could you make an effort and speak english....
yuqi > yeji
chae is not last in itzy, dosie is E, she’s better than ireh and minnie. chaein and kyujin would switch positions
check out my update ranking
Dosie is better than Jieun & Ireh, she's Purple Kiss 4th best vocalist (E+)
Dosie can support
Kazhuha is F-/F
since i saw that chaeryeong (itzy) was at 29 i knew that this ranking was kinda bad
It's that she doesn't have a good technic
I am surprised yuqi is rank higher than her leader...
Are you serious ?
@@elfy2006 i just feel soyeon have a stronger voice and unique tone. I just watched both yuqi and soyeon lion solo and felt soyeon did better. Idk about singing techniques.
@@harukenb4406 well this ranking is about technique and Yuqi is obviously better
Ok thanks. I genuinely thought soyeon is better previously... Lol guess we learn something everyday.
Lily is literally an A- wdym
So you think she is better than Wendy ?!
No Wendy's literal -A
@@elfy2006 Wendy is the vocal queen ofc
She( Lily ) ain't better but she is the gen4 wendy
@@MaxTheRealatable I'm agree with you, but she is not A-
@@MaxTheRealatable she is high AA
Chaeryeong its better than ryujin lol and are on the same level than yuna
No, Ryujin and Yuna are F+ and more relaxed, and Chaeryeong is F
@@elfy2006 Ryujin is not relaxed. She is still shaky and airy in her lower register so she is still below Chaeryeong
@@dylantoo6347 nope, she showed improvements recently
@@dylantoo6347 still above chae
@@elfy2006 And what is that mister "improvements"
Nope chaeryeong is an F+ gaining support and is 3/5 vocals In her group
I'm sorry, I listen a lot to aespa, but... Why is Hiselle overranked? She is good, but in no universe will she ever be above any main vocals~ except for a few.
Shuhua and Chaeryeong are better than Yuna and Ryujin
Nope, and clearly not shuhua.
Chae and shuhua are F, Ryujin and Yuna are F+
@@elfy2006
ranking Itzy & Gidle
- Miyeon
- Lia
- Yuqi
- Yeji
- Minnie
- Soyeon
- Yuna
- Chaeryeong
- Shuhua
- Ryujin
@@jrkln27 ryujin is at yuna level but the rest is right
@@jrkln27 Ryujin is much better than Shuhua.
No
It's amazing how y'all overhyped kyujin vocal just because of that pre-debut cover, literally no one would rate her if people only heard her sing after debut.
Wdym ? Kyujin could be main vocalist in some groups
Correct✅✔
No hate but this is so baised
How ? This is based on vocal tier
@@elfy2006 okay first of all sorry if that sounded disrespectful🫶but but how is Giselle in the top ten above miyeon, Yeji, lia, Karina, all of gidle members literally soyeon is a better vocalist than her still no hate I love them all including Giselle but most vocalists on this list are better than her 😭
@@m363k4 you don't sound disrespectful, don't worry :)
The fact is that Giselle vocals are really underrated. She is above Karina because she is less throaty
@@m363k4 nobody in Gidle is better than Giselle
@@jenniekimstolemymoney4208 in what category are we talking because I have a lot to say ☠️
Facke
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