4th Gen Kpop Girl Groups Mega Vocal Ranking (Aespa, Nmixx, Class:y, Ive, Le Sserafim, and more…)

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  • @gwgwap
    @gwgwap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1316

    lily having an Eb5 on her support range is the craziest thing ever.... she is so talented

    • @eNDVi
      @eNDVi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I think it's safe to add e5 now?

    • @albatross.77
      @albatross.77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@eNDVi yes

    • @apworjdjswn7156
      @apworjdjswn7156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@eNDVi nope, although she has supported some E5s, she's still not consistent with E5, in their recent mv (funky glitter xmas) her E5s there weren't supported but only relexed or good placement.

    • @Forever_2424
      @Forever_2424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She has Eb5 in her head voice

    • @gwgwap
      @gwgwap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Forever_2424 I was talking specifically about mixed but that's true too!!

  • @rafaelm6181
    @rafaelm6181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +775

    HaeLy just being the best vocalist of 4th gen!

    • @joy11311
      @joy11311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      i almost thought "hmm who is haely" "when did she debut" "which group is she in" then found out its haewon and lily 😭

    • @Bluemoonnnn
      @Bluemoonnnn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@joy11311 I just realised when reading this 😭

    • @SergeantRyan11
      @SergeantRyan11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@joy11311 I thought Haely was Lily’s real name 💀💀

    • @rafaelm6181
      @rafaelm6181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SergeantRyan11 It's so witty. HAHAHAH. But at least you know the HaeLy was Haewon and Lily

    • @joy11311
      @joy11311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rafaelm6181 write it as HaeLy , many can misunderstand your comment 📌

  • @iyersuhani
    @iyersuhani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    lily set a new standard for fourth generation vocalists, honestly.

  • @Blanka767
    @Blanka767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1262

    Basically
    17 - Everglow
    16 - ITZY (it's ok, they're probably the best dancers among them)
    15 - Ive
    14 - Stayc
    13 - Kepl1er
    12 - GIDLE
    11 - Pixy
    10 - Le Sserafim
    9 - Loona
    8 - Fromis_9
    7 - Weekly
    6 - Lightsum
    5 - Purple Kiss
    4 - Billlie
    3 - Class:y
    2 - Aespa
    1 - Nmixx

    • @leonardoenrico2152
      @leonardoenrico2152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +436

      JYPE really bring all good vocalists to NMIXX and leaving nothing for ITZY

    • @o5679
      @o5679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +237

      @@leonardoenrico2152 they leave the best dancers and performers to itzy

    • @sarathchandra8963
      @sarathchandra8963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      @@o5679 yes because itzy is dance based gg

    • @o5679
      @o5679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@sarathchandra8963 yeah exactly like nmixx focus on the vocals

    • @sarathchandra8963
      @sarathchandra8963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@o5679 sure ...

  • @leedosbf
    @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    DISCLAIMER: This list is not finalized. Changes will, and have, happen as idols progress/regress and as I switch things around in the interchangeable tiers of non vocalist and undeveloped. Things have alr changed and I also plan to add more groups as soon as I learn abt them such as Bvndit, Cherry Bullet, and New Jeans!
    Edit: Jo Yuri, Youha, Choi Yena, Jeon Somi, Kwon Eunbi, and Lee Chaeyeon have been added to the list
    Edit 2: New Jeans and Kang Hyewon have been added to the list
    Edit 3: Tri.Be have been added to the list

    • @twice__drippin_stan4676
      @twice__drippin_stan4676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you check Rocket Punch, please?

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@twice__drippin_stan4676 they’re actually on the list! I’ve heard that Yunkyung can support

    • @rensdenbraber5642
      @rensdenbraber5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can you explain what the term supported range means exactly? Cause i don’t really understand, i have singing classes myself but I never heard about this before.

    • @SelenaaGomezAddict
      @SelenaaGomezAddict 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a quick question (I dunno if I’ve missed it), was Yuqi from (G)I-DLE on the list?

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SelenaaGomezAddict she was 42

  • @edu.8552
    @edu.8552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1297

    NMIXX almost all on top 30 and Aespa no top 20.
    amazing to hear well rounded groups vocally
    edit: I made a typo with Aespa, wrote no instead of on. I'm Brazilian, can speak three languages, it happens. stop being dense.
    also, in the NMIXX part I originally didn't wrote "almost" because I swore I saw Bae at 30th. now please stop fighting. cut the bullsh*t.

    • @shinigagamimi
      @shinigagamimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      bae is placed at 33 tho

    • @CrownPrinceEdvin
      @CrownPrinceEdvin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@shinigagamimiwell bae is d and lia is d-

    • @shinigagamimi
      @shinigagamimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@CrownPrinceEdvin i dont give a shit about lia. Op was talking about how the nmixx members are in the top 30 which isnt true because bae is placed at 33.

    • @CrownPrinceEdvin
      @CrownPrinceEdvin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@shinigagamimi and I’m saying bae is actually d making her in top 30

    • @shinigagamimi
      @shinigagamimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@CrownPrinceEdvin if shes placed at 33 she literally cant be in the top 30 those vocal tiers dont mean anything

  • @ishathakor
    @ishathakor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1231

    honestly it's kind of sad that so many idols are so low in the tiers. tier a for vocalists is very doable with good instruction and consistent practice. average tier is basically when you have decent foundations. these companies must be hiring absolutely terrible voice teachers. tier a level of technique can take as little as a few months to get to and the average training period for idols is literally several years. it's like they just lock trainees in practice rooms and tell them to magically become better singers
    edit: guys there's a difference between there's MORE to an idol than being able to sing well and just having no grasp of vocal technique. i'm not asking for idols to turn into beyonce or whitney houston. if they get any vocal training at all it's ridiculous that only a small fraction of them ever get to the point where they even have basic elementary vocal technique. you can even get that good with NO instruction. it's just the basics. that's like learning someone's job involves math among other things and they don't even know how to do multiplication. it's BASIC technique. it's the point at which you have a good grasp of basic vocal technique. it's not advanced. literally anyone can get there (save medical issues that may affect your ability to develop technique). people can literally get there on their own without any voice lessons and just practicing by themselves for fun.
    i've literally had like two voice lessons and have been practicing on and off for like a few weeks and i've already improved more than some idols in the u and u-w region have in their entire careers. i'm not consistent and i don't have a lot of free time and i'm just doing it as a hobby. i literally even had to take a break for 3 weeks because i had a really bad throat infection. i'm seriously NOT asking for idols to suddenly become vocal gods. i don't even think all of the vocalists in a group need to be in average tier or above. it's just ridiculous to have idols WITH vocalist positions who are literally worse vocalists than random people off the street. these people get YEARS of training. years. it's okay if you don't want to have any standards but don't get mad at those of us who do.

    • @Lafilledlapluie
      @Lafilledlapluie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Appreciate this comment

    • @Bluemoonnnn
      @Bluemoonnnn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Fr

    • @juliaafonso7109
      @juliaafonso7109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      I think k-pop companies are focusing in the wrong things like some focus in stylish but without teaching the idols how to balance that with healthy techniques and a lot of times they focus just in stamina for singing while dancing

    • @Bagel_Luv
      @Bagel_Luv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      They focus more on visuals thats why.... apparently they have to be marketable

    • @greentofuhouse
      @greentofuhouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Actually they don’t focus as much on looks unless you need plastic surgery, for normal kids make up skin care and diet can elevate their look already. What they really emphasize is dance because there’s actually a lot of really good singers in Korea, but they cannot make the cut just because they are lacking in dancing. There are good singers out there too like 2am even jamie park and yerin used to be a group, but vocal group are not the same as idol group, if you really want to listen to good vocals you just have to look elsewhere.

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +123

    For MYs (aespa's fandom):
    20 Karina (D+) 17:28
    16 Giselle (D+) 18:19
    6 Winter (C) 20:31
    3 Ningning (C+) 21:15

    • @husnaarac6401
      @husnaarac6401 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ning vocals is good but not enough

    • @loixuix
      @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@husnaarac6401 dont be mad bro ❤

    • @karinaa_bluu
      @karinaa_bluu ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well I wish ningning was 1 she should've had like at least a B 🙁

    • @sekkai_
      @sekkai_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@karinaa_bluu girl i love her but she's not even deserving of a B yet C+/B- is where i think she is now

    • @Aespa_ty
      @Aespa_ty ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sekkai_ ningning she c+ isn't c+/b-

  • @gwgwap
    @gwgwap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    it's insane to me how yunjin has arguably the best head voice of 4th Gen but her mixed is so underdeveloped and powerless. Especially with the songs she has with lsrfm her placement is very weird? she lacks severe live materials but from the blue flame live at a festival video I saw she seems to struggle even with A4s

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      Same with Haseul. Such strong head voices but awful mixes 😭

    • @my.treat_
      @my.treat_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@leedosbf im no vocal expert but i think its because of their opera training?? its very different from singing from what i heard

    • @nukomars
      @nukomars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@my.treat_ Yunjin did not have opera training! She only did musical theater

    • @my.treat_
      @my.treat_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@nukomars ah okayy, but musical theatre is kinda close to opera since both utilizes head voice, correct me if im wrong im no expert

    • @kamilasantos8081
      @kamilasantos8081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Actually, Lily has the best head voice. Shes more consistent and fuller than Yunjin

  • @sadiafiruj7979
    @sadiafiruj7979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +976

    for nswers:
    33 - Bae
    28 - Jiwoo
    22 - Jinni
    21 - Kyujin
    15 - Sullyoon
    2 - Haewon
    1 - Lily

    • @V3nelope
      @V3nelope 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Honestly thanks I wanted to see what their rankings are but I thought it would take to long

    • @SeunShinje
      @SeunShinje 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      What a hero you are! Thank you King

    • @yungypik4354
      @yungypik4354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      thanks

    • @ploryz
      @ploryz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Putting kyujin below sullyoon invalidates this list. That being said haewon and lily's place is correct

    • @kamson8172
      @kamson8172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@ploryz it's called an improvement

  • @fathonahnadia4140
    @fathonahnadia4140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    I know that winter, ningning, lily and haewon would be in top 5. Their vocals are amazing.

    • @namjoonbestleader6936
      @namjoonbestleader6936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Haely>>>

    • @fathonahnadia4140
      @fathonahnadia4140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@namjoonbestleader6936 lol I don't even talking about comparison, just talking about how amazing they are

    • @namjoonbestleader6936
      @namjoonbestleader6936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Artsyjason just telling the truth

    • @fathonahnadia4140
      @fathonahnadia4140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@namjoonbestleader6936 yeah everyone knows it and that's clearly by the ranking. I don't talk about who's better than who. I just talk about what I thought before I know the top 5 of the best vocalist. And I don't talk shit about winter and ningning are better than lyly and haewon, so why you compare them? Here I'm not talking bout comparison. Think smart
      I think you're an aespa's hatter or toxic nswer, you don't want anyone talking about how good other idols than your bias, or you bothered by reading someone put ningning and winter's name near to your idols. Idk what's your problem but stop it, comparing idols when we don't even talking about comparison is not relatable

    • @yungypik4354
      @yungypik4354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@namjoonbestleader6936 bruh that would stil be top 5

  • @joymariko5
    @joymariko5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    That duo never loses

    • @gaizkanov
      @gaizkanov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      After all of the ranking I’ve seen, they’re always the top 2 😂

    • @uwucioo8932
      @uwucioo8932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      yeah as they should

    • @ereh11
      @ereh11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I mean, who can go against them in the 4th gen? 🤣

    • @yasser2881
      @yasser2881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      AS THEY SHOULD

    • @jisooyalove4842
      @jisooyalove4842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes for real! ❤

  • @grazersgazebos3605
    @grazersgazebos3605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +601

    CLASS:y ✨ they’re so good, and knowing that almost all class:y members are self-taught/trained is just insane

    • @icezwone
      @icezwone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yas

    • @zarib
      @zarib 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      yasss, i hope they quickly get recognition from netizens

    • @selectspray
      @selectspray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Accurate and unbi

    • @flo_o996
      @flo_o996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And the fact that they’re so young!!

    • @zarib
      @zarib 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flo_o996 trueee

  • @americxno
    @americxno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +623

    I always knew gaeul was better than half her group yet they still refuse to give her real vocal lines 😭 also slay nmixx for having all amazing vocalists

    • @Caspian_Xx
      @Caspian_Xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      I mean gauel and rei can be better than Yujin as well , if only the Yujin Stans didn't scream all day long to claim yujin's main vocal position others would finally get appreciated and people should see how much Liz hard carrying the group's vocal .

    • @americxno
      @americxno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@Caspian_Xx agreed Liz is such a slay she carries fr

    • @iyainorangsakitjiwa1803
      @iyainorangsakitjiwa1803 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Caspian_Xx hating Yujin everywhere what a pathetic circus🎪🤡
      Gauel? Loz? Lmao can’t even write properly get a brain

    • @pinklamborghini6446
      @pinklamborghini6446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@Caspian_Xx totally agree, yujin is overhyped as a vocalist, when gaeul and rei have a healthier (it's correct to say that? lol) tecnique

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@pinklamborghini6446 I would say they're more relaxed than Yujin who's gutteral

  • @chaetime2023
    @chaetime2023 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Every group sorted out:
    PIXY
    119. Rinji
    95. Lola
    85. Satbyeol
    84. Sua
    50. Dia
    43. Dajeong
    24. Ella
    EVERGLOW
    118. Yiren
    104. Onda
    80. Aisha
    71. E:U
    56. Mia
    37. Sihyeong
    PURPLE KISS
    117. Yuki
    88. Ireh
    53. Park Jieun
    47. Dosie
    19. Chaein
    18. Swan
    7. Goeun
    ITZY
    116. Ryujin
    82. Yuna
    81. Chaeryeong
    54. Yeji
    35. Lia
    LOONA
    115. Vivi
    114. Go Won
    112. Olivia Hye
    102. Yeojin
    74. Choerry
    73. Hyunjin
    63. Jinsoul
    48. Haseul
    46. Kim Lip
    32. Chuu
    30. Heejin
    14. Yves
    Kep1er
    113. Hikaru
    108. Yeseo
    101. Xiaoting
    89. Yujin
    66. Bahiyyih
    65. Mashiro
    60. Dayeon
    55. Youngeun
    12. Chaehyun
    LE SSERAFIM
    111. Sakura
    93. Kazuha
    58. Garam
    57. Eunchae
    39. Chaewon
    9. Yunjin
    LIGHTSUM
    110. Hina
    97. Sangah
    96. Jian
    92. Huiyeon
    62. Chowon
    49. Yujeong
    38. Juhyeon
    10. Na young
    (G)I-DLE
    109. Shuhua
    83. Soyeon
    79. Soojin
    67. Minnie
    42. Yuqi
    27. Miyeon
    STAYC
    107. J
    87. Seeun
    69. Sumin
    51. Yoon
    45. Isa
    44. Sieun
    IVE
    106. Wonyoung
    105. Leeseo
    76. Rei
    75. Gaeul
    68. Yujin
    29. Liz
    fromis_9
    103. Jiheon
    98. Saerom
    94. Jisun
    72. Nagyung
    64. Chaeyoung
    61. Seoyeon
    36. Gyuri
    34. Hayoung
    8. Jiwon
    Weeekly
    100. Zoa
    99. Jaehee
    86. Soojin
    59. Jiyoon
    40. Jihan
    25. Soeun
    4. Monday
    Billlie
    91. Haruna
    78. Tsuki
    77. Siyoon
    52. Sheon
    26. Moon Sua
    11. Suhyeon
    5. Haram
    CLASS:Y
    90. Hyeju
    70. Riwon
    41. Seonyu
    31. Hyungseo
    23. Jimin
    17. Boeun
    13. Chaewon
    NMIXX
    33. Bae
    28. Jiwoo
    22. Jinni
    21. Kyujin
    15. SULLYOON
    2. Haewon
    1. Lily
    ÆSPA
    20. Karina
    16. Giselle
    6. Winter
    3. Ningning
    PS: soeun from weeekly is accidentally shown as a class:y member in the video. I don’t think it’s on purpose though, everyone can make mistakes.

    • @goldyd144
      @goldyd144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! 😊

  • @jisooyalove4842
    @jisooyalove4842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Haewon and Lily are setting the standard as they should, they’re my favorite duo!❤❤❤

  • @lhemy5435
    @lhemy5435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    For fearnot’s:
    1:19 #111 Sakura
    3:53 #93 Kazuha
    9:41 #58 Garam
    9:53 #57 Eunchae
    13:19 #39 Chaewon
    19:48 #9 Yunjin

    • @ploryz
      @ploryz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Only fear bots would be proud of #111😂

    • @jerdhonandador7749
      @jerdhonandador7749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@ploryz stop bringing other groups down, worry about your own faves

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@ploryz yes, I'm proud of her for coming back to the industry stronger than ever, got a problem?

    • @gina-pj5sm
      @gina-pj5sm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ploryzsakura bigger than nmixx put together so now what?

    • @fatimariaz1401
      @fatimariaz1401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ploryz At least their are one of the best performers and their one of the leading 4th gen K-pop groups. Now??

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +79

    For Belllie'ves (Billlie's fandom):
    91 Haruna (F) 4:07
    78 Tsuki (F+) 6:07
    77 Siyoon (F+) 6:17
    52 Sheon (E) 10:42
    26 Moon Sua (D+) 15:54
    11 Suhyeon (C-) 19:16
    5 Haram (C) 20:47

    • @Random_ratinNewYork
      @Random_ratinNewYork ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Moon Sua, the main rapper who can out-rap 95% of 4th gen is better than so many lead vocalists. The power she holds my god.

  • @twice__drippin_stan4676
    @twice__drippin_stan4676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Lily, Haewon and Jiwon (Fromis_9) are all jype trainees and all of them are in top 10

    • @silverdiangelo8117
      @silverdiangelo8117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      it's such a revelation that jyp can produce above average vocalists like them. i wonder what happened to their other groups, did they have different vocal trainers or just weren't told to prioritize singing as much

    • @gwgwap
      @gwgwap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@silverdiangelo8117 jype has different divisions for each of their group. For example Stray Kids are under Dive 2, while Itzy are at Dive 4 and Twice is at dive 3. Nmixx are under a different division, which explains the difference in vocals. Dive 2 and Dive 3 are the divisions that are more focused with a simple vocal line such as one average main vocal (Jihyo, Woojin) and two or more lead vocals weak to average ( Nayeon, Jeongyeon, Seungmin, Jeongin, Han). Dive 4 was created solely for itzy, so this is why their vocals are so below the rest of jype groups, it was a completely different division.

    • @hyunjinie_lixie_chanie4514
      @hyunjinie_lixie_chanie4514 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gwgwapstraykids are in Division 1,said it multiple times, thanks to them at award shows and Chan always mentions them in his lives.

    • @Anjan_-
      @Anjan_- ปีที่แล้ว

      It's so nice to see

  • @YEOUN_channel
    @YEOUN_channel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Goeun is pretty much more grounded in her mid range to B4 and her lows are G♯3/A3.
    Swan is definitely above Giselle, Swan is ain't that inconsistent it's just her tongue placement that makes her sounds "stuck". Pretty much she has better control at the engagement than Giselle.

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +63

    For Flovers (Fromis_9's fandom):
    103 Jiheon (F) 2:36
    98 Saerom (F) 3:13
    94 Jisun (F) 3:45
    72 Nagyung (F+) 7:18
    64 Chaeyoung (F+) 8:41
    61 Seoyeon (F+) 9:14
    36 Gyuri (E+) 13:55
    34 Hayoung (D-) 14:14
    8 Jiwon (C) 20:03

    • @hyosthesia
      @hyosthesia ปีที่แล้ว

      THANK YOU FLOVER

  • @winter_gaeul_fan1207
    @winter_gaeul_fan1207 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    For DIVEs (IVE's fandom)
    2:00 106. Wonyoung
    2:12 105. Leeseo
    6:25 76. Rei
    6:36 75. Gaeul
    8:04 68. Yujin
    15:09 29. Liz

    • @jjuaassol
      @jjuaassol 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Liz is too underrated, IMHO.

    • @kyloquokka863
      @kyloquokka863 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jjuaassol agreed, even tho her parts are mostly short her voice is like water in those runs

    • @buddies6389
      @buddies6389 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jjuaassoly’all really are going to have to stop lying to yourself at some point

  • @Jim-mw8xw
    @Jim-mw8xw ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Jype really went from being made fun of weak vocals to having one of the best vocalist ever 😭 i can’t wait to see how much lily will grow, like i genuinely find her to be the strongest rookie vocalist like no one has been as strong as she is on DEBUT. not a single voice crack, belting like crazy, having such solid technique and her breath control is insane 😭

    • @cyj7n
      @cyj7n ปีที่แล้ว +24

      They were never really that bad tho. They usually get main vocalists who are average or around C tier or around the level of Yunjin/Nayoung/Winter/Haram/Goeun/Suhyeon. It's really only with ITZY and maybe Miss A where JYP didn't do like usual in terms of debuting groups with average main vocalists

    • @sekkai_
      @sekkai_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cyj7n well miss a and itzy are visual (no shade) and performance based groups so i get it

    • @fearnotmyinsomniaonce4579
      @fearnotmyinsomniaonce4579 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      None of the main vocalists or lead vocalists in previous JYP groups were bad though. The company also had Jamie and Baek Yerin (two of some of the best solo vocalists) under their company, but people just ignore them.

    • @sekkai_
      @sekkai_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fearnotmyinsomniaonce4579 baek yerin is very popular domestically her music is staple in korea

  • @vitorgabriel8354
    @vitorgabriel8354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Yujin and minnie really shook me

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Same the way Minnie was my first Bias and every told me her vocals were ass hurt me deep down 😭💥🔫

  • @aenlightiz1435
    @aenlightiz1435 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    CLASSY MEMBERS:
    90 - 4:17 HONG HYEJU 2003
    70 - 7:35 KIM RIWON 2007
    41 - 12:49 KIM SEONYOU 2008
    31 - 14:50 MYUNG HYUNGSEO 2001
    23 - 16:38 WON JIMIN 2007
    17 - 18:02 PARK BOEUN 2008
    13 - 18:53 YOON CHAEWON 2003

  • @syarifafatimaha
    @syarifafatimaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Aren't anyone gonna talk about Classy Maknae line? Cause DAMN, they are so young yet THAT good

    • @anaavila9326
      @anaavila9326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      and they are pretty much self-trained before debuting too lol

    • @stzrq
      @stzrq ปีที่แล้ว

      When they are that young they are in puberty, which can give them ever better vocals when they’ve grown up

  • @salt5711
    @salt5711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    nmixx really killing the vocal game in 4th gen

  • @CrownPrinceEdvin
    @CrownPrinceEdvin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I swear classy nmixx and aespa have all vocalists

    • @amylinh0309
      @amylinh0309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah I'm so happy they included Class:y like Chaewon is such a good vocalis with Boeun and Jimin !

    • @btsismyoxyjin2013
      @btsismyoxyjin2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts 🔥

    • @CrownPrinceEdvin
      @CrownPrinceEdvin ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@amylinh0309 agreed. Tbh 6/7 members support in classy

    • @nswer_co.
      @nswer_co. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrownPrinceEdvin Riwon and Hyeju don't support

    • @CrownPrinceEdvin
      @CrownPrinceEdvin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nswer_co. riwon does

  • @garrettc95
    @garrettc95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I’m glad to see fromis_9 jiwon in the top 10 because JYP himself said that she was their best trainer vocalist at the time TWICE was being formed…

    • @joshdaze9631
      @joshdaze9631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always disagree with survival shows like that, like what happened to Jiwon she was very nervous to appear in front of the public and in front of JYP and other judges and it made his singing messy, I mean it's natural for him to be nervous compared to appearing in front of fans who cheer her up

    • @miam_k
      @miam_k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      she’s at the same level as jihyo, so she was the best vocalist-with jihyo (and i’m not too sure about minyoung tbh)

    • @joshdaze9631
      @joshdaze9631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@miam_k Minyoung is really good at composing songs

    • @miam_k
      @miam_k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshdaze9631 I meant her vocal level

  • @minorisudzuki2393
    @minorisudzuki2393 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thanks for adding Billlie! They have amazing vocals, I really hope they get more recognition in the future :3

  • @shrutidubey4945
    @shrutidubey4945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Nmixx Aespa Billie and Classy are probably the most vocal talented group among 4th generation

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +41

    For Orbits (LOONA's fandom):
    115 Vivi (F) 0:43
    114 Go Won (F) 0:50
    112 Olivia Hye (F) 1:10
    102 Yeojin (F) 2:45
    74 Choerry (F+) 6:48
    73 Hyunjin (F+) 7:09
    63 Jinsoul (F+) 8:50
    48 Haseul (E+) 11:29
    46 Kim Lip (E+) 12:00
    32 Chuu (D) 14:40
    30 Heejin (D) 14:59
    14 Yves (D+) 18:47

    • @a.vjr1945
      @a.vjr1945 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yves is alr Low Average

    • @Adorslye
      @Adorslye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@a.vjr1945yves is the best vocalist in loona ot12

    • @SkyFWWO
      @SkyFWWO ปีที่แล้ว

      Gowon is now C+ btw, there is a new vocal analysis and she has a vocal range of A3 - G5

    • @Adorslye
      @Adorslye ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkyFWWO vocal tiers are made up and she’s not better than yves or heejin

  • @clara-rq9my
    @clara-rq9my 2 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    billlie having a main rapper rank 26 is insane

    • @seonyul.5198
      @seonyul.5198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      well the 12 years training paid off

    • @nattiebee
      @nattiebee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      She’s also the lead vocalist

    • @jovenaceron5849
      @jovenaceron5849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Exactly. Even Giselle is at 16!!!

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Moon Sua, Jiwoo, and Giselle, the main rapper who are also decent vocalist trinity

    • @Anjan_-
      @Anjan_- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Moon sua gissele jiwooslay

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +31

    For Daileees (Weeekly's fandom):
    100 Zoa (F) 3:01
    99 Jaehee (F) 3:08
    86 Soojin (F) 4:48
    59 Jiyoon (F+) 9:30
    40 Jihan (E+) 13:08
    25 Soeun (D+) 16:09
    4 Monday (C+) 21:01

  • @jlolxd
    @jlolxd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    ningning having being able to produce a supported eb3 is insane to me like talk abt dynamics...

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's not dynamics lol, it's just about how good your foundations are, but yeah, Ningning never fail to amaze me with her lows, most female vocalists can go high but that girl has amazing lows, best in 4th gen I'd say

    • @yoonjungie
      @yoonjungie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      uhh dynamics is about volume control lol

  • @velmuelsmith8998
    @velmuelsmith8998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    moral of this video: most kpop vocalists are extremely undeveloped and untrained. they rely of unique vocal color, their natural range, and high notes to get through their careers. most of these idols have such good voices to start out with, if only companies invested in them. they would have the technique to back their talent up. 😢

    • @starkschonundelegant9383
      @starkschonundelegant9383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Moral of this video: don't listen random people from youtube. Vocal coach....phahahaha.

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Moral of the video:never listen to non vocal normies like the person above me, because at least if you're not a vocal coach, you're vocally knowledgeable

    • @starkschonundelegant9383
      @starkschonundelegant9383 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062Well, if you have shit in your ears, that's not my problem, plebeian.

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@starkschonundelegant9383 and if you can't say anything factual, that's your problem, not mine, also, insulting someone without giving any facts when you're in a fact showdown is already a sign you're taking the L 🤣🤣

  • @dakotamwee
    @dakotamwee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Yves being the highest ranked member of LOONA is definitely not something I expected.
    Also I really hope Ella/Mirae finds a group she can be successful in bc its a shame her vocals are being wasted like this.

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +41

    For Neverland's ((G)-IDLE's fandom):
    109 Shuhua (F) 1:31
    83 Soyeon (F) 5:17
    79 Soojin (F+) 5:58
    67 Minnie (F+) 8:17
    42 Yuqi (E+) 12:38
    27 Miyeon (D) 15:38

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +25

    For CLIKE:ys (CLASS:y's fandom):
    90 Hyeju (F) 4:17
    70 Riwon (F+) 7:37
    41 Seonyu (E+) 12:48
    31 Hyungseo (D) 14:50
    23 Jimin (D+) 16:38
    17 Boeun (D+) 18:03
    13 Chaewon (D+) 18:53

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +31

    For Kep1ans (Kep1er's fandom):
    113 Hikaru (F) 0:58
    108 Yeseo (F) 1:41
    101 Xiaoting (F) 2:53
    89 Yujin (F) 4:24
    66 Bahiyyih (F+) 8:27
    65 Mashiro (F+) 8:34
    60 Dayeon (F+) 9:22
    55 Youngeun (E+) 10:14
    12 Chaehyun (C-) 19:05

    • @SkyFWWO
      @SkyFWWO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This group got 6 really good dancers (Everyone else) 1 average dancer (Mashiro), 2 stiff dancers (Bahiyyih & Chaehyun) and 7 really horrible vocalists, a normal vocalist and 1 really good vocalist 💀💀💀

    • @FrostyPlayzYT
      @FrostyPlayzYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SkyFWWO pls stop spreading toxicity with a bubbly choerry pfp of all ppl 😭

  • @tomtamjimjams
    @tomtamjimjams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    TOTALLY EXPECTED PURKISS, NMIXX, CLASSY IN THE TOP20 YASSSS

  • @ifancyyouofficial9697
    @ifancyyouofficial9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Garam was such a gem of Le Sserafim.. she really caught my attention because of her vocals

    • @harmonyh5225
      @harmonyh5225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      honestly she has such a nice voice

    • @ifancyyouofficial9697
      @ifancyyouofficial9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@harmonyh5225 yeahh her voice is like a cotton candy to my ears

  • @traverse_danikuuu
    @traverse_danikuuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    So non vocalists can sing, just not to a vocalist level.
    Also glad Garam was still included, even with her 100 seconds of lines ✨

    • @mihanni2214
      @mihanni2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, it's also still more than a lot of people on this list who have had multiple comebacks or been active for years

    • @my.treat_
      @my.treat_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      still more than vivi lmao

    • @o_rumor_mio7312
      @o_rumor_mio7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@my.treat_ really? 💀

    • @cyj7n
      @cyj7n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yesss. They can sing. Just not necessarily with the right technique

    • @notmyname3556
      @notmyname3556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100 second is impressive, for not even a one year old group, and a non-vocalist.

  • @user-3259
    @user-3259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    please do 3rd generation too! This was actually so informative

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +28

    For plorys (Purple Kiss's fandom):
    117 Yuki (F) 0:19
    88 Ireh (F) 4:30
    53 Park Jieun (E-) 10:33
    47 Dosie (E+) 11:44
    19 Chaein (D+) 17:42
    18 Swan (D+) 17:51
    7 Na Goeun (C) 20:19

  • @gelaita0092
    @gelaita0092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    To determine the group from the strongest to the weakest we must add the results of the groups. For example Aespa, Karina was in place 20, Giselle in 16, Winter in 6 and Ning Ning in 3, we add 20, 16, 6 and 3 and divide it between the total number of members in this case Aespa has 4, so it is divided times 4 and gives 11.25, the smaller the number is, the higher it will be on the list.
    The ranking will be:
    1. Aespa (11.25)
    2. Nmixx (17.43)
    3. Classy (38.75)
    4. Billlie (48.57)
    5. Purple Kiss (49.86)
    6. Le sserafim (61.17)
    7. Fromis 9 (63.33)
    8. Weekly (64.67)
    9. Stayc (67.17)
    10. Gidle (67.83)
    11. Loona (68.58)
    12. Lightsum (69.25)
    13. Pixy (71.42)
    14. Itzy (73.60)
    15. Kep1er (74.33)
    16. Ive (76.50)
    17. Everglow (77.67)
    Basically the strongest vocal line is Aespa.

    • @anemojin4384
      @anemojin4384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Aespa's Vocal Line is Karina/Winter/Ningning Only
      nmixx's vocal line is Lily/Haewon/Sullyoon.
      We know which ones stronger

    • @lonesomewillyhandful8897
      @lonesomewillyhandful8897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      @@anemojin4384 I think we're talking about the GROUP as a whole.. not JUST the "vocal" line

    • @mira-sz8nm
      @mira-sz8nm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Aespa on top perioddd

    • @mira-sz8nm
      @mira-sz8nm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@anemojin4384 group as a whole not just vocal line

    • @gelaita0092
      @gelaita0092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@anemojin4384 is about the group in general

  • @MsForeverpotter
    @MsForeverpotter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Watch out for all rounder classy they are so young & self taught most of the member didnt have agency so it's so impressive !

  • @underhill488
    @underhill488 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    NO FUCKING WAY IS EUNCHAE BETTER THAN GARAM 😅

  • @LilyJin_MorrowDe_NMIXX
    @LilyJin_MorrowDe_NMIXX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I'm absolutely NMIXX fans but Billie deserve more respect for their vocal 🤌

  • @ndnfclsjflunishc
    @ndnfclsjflunishc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Excited for the day Eunchae sings with support in her voice. She's almost there

  • @San_BestHannista
    @San_BestHannista 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Updates on some of the girls on this list:
    1- Jinsoul now supports (E/E+)
    2- Eunchae & Garam have support (E-/E)
    3- Ryujin is now F+
    4- Wonyoung & Yujin are now (F+/E-)
    5- Lily is now B
    6- Bae is now D
    7- Isa is now D-
    8- Yujin & Dayeon now support (E-)
    9- Seeun is now F+
    10- Yves is C-/D+
    11- Soyeon is F+
    12- Lesseo improved alot,but im not sure if shes F+ now
    13- Yeji is now E
    14- Yuqi is now D-
    15- Kyujin & Sullyoon are now (C-/D+)
    16- Karina & Giselle are now (C-/D+)

    • @adjkshdj-mc7tw
      @adjkshdj-mc7tw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eunchae is inconsistent
      Wonyoung F+ Yujin E+ (Low Weak)
      Lily B- (Mid-High AA)
      Bae D- (Low W-A near Mid)
      Isa E+
      Yves C-
      Yeji E+ (Mid Weak)
      Yuqi E+ (High Weak)
      Kyujin D (Mid W-A) and Sullyoon D+ (High W-A) (She used to be C-/Low Average but she regressed)
      Karina and Giselle between D and D+

  • @emilianerocha3598
    @emilianerocha3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    for flover:
    103. Jiheon
    98. Saerom
    94. Jisun
    72. Nagyung
    64. Chaeyoung
    61. Seoyeon
    36. Gyuri
    34. Hayoung
    8. Jiwon

    • @breeadtuwu
      @breeadtuwu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tysm!!!

    • @NoixDeCocoSplit
      @NoixDeCocoSplit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Chaeyoung vocals are underrated IMO, she is a good sub-vocalist and she did well in Stay This Way considering she did more challenging vocal parts. I knew she was the best subvocalist in Fromis_9

    • @btsismyoxyjin2013
      @btsismyoxyjin2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please tell me the song name in 20:12

    • @-suamae
      @-suamae ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@btsismyoxyjin2013 it's DM

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +20

    For Midzy's (Itzy's fandom):
    116 Ryujin (F) 0:26
    82 Yuna (F+) 5:26
    81 Chaeryeong (F+) 5:35
    54 Yeji (E-) 10:22
    35 Lia (E+) 14:03

    • @husnaarac6401
      @husnaarac6401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think itzy better this list

  • @Kpop-c5o
    @Kpop-c5o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Some of these girls just need more materials to determine their vocals skills especially those who just debuted this year.

  • @wasilkhan8818
    @wasilkhan8818 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Yujin have less vocal range then eunchae while yujin can sing and support her vocals and eunchae can't lol 😂

    • @LJPPKGGFS-C
      @LJPPKGGFS-C 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This was a year ago..

  • @Aelinash
    @Aelinash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I always get surprised by how good Goeun vocals are

    • @dindapurki
      @dindapurki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      listen to her event horizon cover, she sounds more good than ever here!
      th-cam.com/video/4DrT-K8244k/w-d-xo.html

    • @user-um8wi5ym4y
      @user-um8wi5ym4y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      She's a balanced idol: Good vocals, good dancing, pretty visuals.

    • @goldyd144
      @goldyd144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      When she was on Produce48, the battle of who would be Main Vocal was between her, Chowon and Yuri, so it makes sense.
      Would add Yunjin too (and she was actually the best vocalist on the show, at the time), but she got voted out too early to be a candidate, unfortunately.

    • @cocoapuff_x
      @cocoapuff_x ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goldyd144 you're forgetting chowon

    • @goldyd144
      @goldyd144 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cocoapuff_x Her too!

  • @tallulahsubliminals
    @tallulahsubliminals ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow! I'm so proud of everybody in this video especially Lily and Haewon!

  • @benjaminelizalde5100
    @benjaminelizalde5100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    it’s so sad to see all the girlies that can’t sing 😭😭

    • @akio1489
      @akio1489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      They not can't sing but can't sing healthily

    • @amani9724
      @amani9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@akio1489 but its still many of them can't

    • @whitepuppy8886
      @whitepuppy8886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@amani9724 he means like that they can sing but not like comfortably

    • @joshdaze9631
      @joshdaze9631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@amani9724 they may not be good at singing but in other aspects they are better than those who can sing

    • @amani9724
      @amani9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joshdaze9631 not all of them 🤔🤔 maybe kepler itzy yes they're better in dance...but nmixx can sing and dance plus a good stage presence even their rap is good....purple kiss can sing and dance...aespa sing and rap....alsi billlie...those are the best in vocals and they're also good in some of other categories especially nmixx .

  • @ayaourahhou1752
    @ayaourahhou1752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    the fact that all aespa members are in top 20 ! ❤️

  • @zy5699
    @zy5699 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    crazy how ranks from top 10 (7-10) were girls that didn't make the group from survival shows, love seeing them shine with their own groups!!

  • @klauslovesrv
    @klauslovesrv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    my stayc girls are improving 😭

  • @jdbf2879
    @jdbf2879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    It's crazy to me that only hyugseo have a vocal training prior to mtg then debuting in class:y basically 6/7 are still improving boeun jimin and chaewon being the tip 3 vocalist of class:y just proves how talented these girls are not receiving any training yet ranking high also i would like to point out that seonyu is practically only interested in dancing before joining capteen then auditioning in mtg

  • @SeunShinje
    @SeunShinje 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Can't argue that most of NMIXX members are on top specially HaeLy. These girls crave to sing live despite their heavy choreo

  • @everyday_plory
    @everyday_plory ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Purple kiss
    0:17 117 Yuki
    4:30 88 Ireh
    10:33 53 Jieun (former member)
    11:48 47 Dosie
    17:40 19 Chaein
    17:53 18 Swan
    20:19 7 Goeun

  • @MspufCio
    @MspufCio ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the effort put into this video is magnificent. thanks for this i found a lot of groups to listen to! they are all talented on their own ways even if they lack vocal skills so please don't bring anyone down

  • @WonJiminSaranghae
    @WonJiminSaranghae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    CLASS:y definitely deserves more recognization, their vocals are amazing

  • @freedomdive1881
    @freedomdive1881 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This chart needs update

  • @renrinosuu
    @renrinosuu ปีที่แล้ว +33

    for orbits:
    115 - Vivi
    114 - Gowon
    112 - Olivia Hye
    102 - Yeojin
    74 - Choerry
    73 - Hyunjin
    63 - Jinsoul
    48 - Haseul
    46 - Kim Lip
    32 - Chuu
    30 - Heejin
    14 - Yves
    ^^

    • @ulamme
      @ulamme ปีที่แล้ว +4

      they put yves above heejin and chuu??? i am so confused

    • @hellofuture8191
      @hellofuture8191 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ulamme cause yves it’s underrated. She has the best technique in the group, still gets barely any lines (top 5). She is the unique lower average in her group, pretty solid support

    • @hyunjinily8572
      @hyunjinily8572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heartbrokenn they really should get better vocal trainers in the future

  • @mohamadhusaini1974
    @mohamadhusaini1974 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    aespa Best Vocal Group
    All aespa members in Top 20
    3. Ningning (main vocalist)
    6. Winter (lead vocalist)
    16. Giselle (main rapper)
    20. Karina (lead rapper)

  • @zarib
    @zarib 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    NMIXX completely broke netizen speculation that JYPE only focuses on dance and Stage presence. if you rank for 4th gg, nmixx will be top 3 in all categories

    • @zarib
      @zarib 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      maybe for all Girl Group

    • @SeunShinje
      @SeunShinje 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zarib Kinda feel bad for Itzy tho

    • @notmyname3556
      @notmyname3556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tbh, jyp has always had decent if not good vocalists. Suzy, Jia, Sunye, Jamie, Baek Yerin. I think the reputation got weaker during 3rd and 4th gen, until nmixx debut.
      Ngl, all of these idols here actually are those who don't have strong quality of jyp's 'half-air' method. Especially for Jamie and Baek Yerin. They're definitely the best vocalists among jyp vocalists.

    • @rurimasruroh5581
      @rurimasruroh5581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think after twice incident they start to focus more on their vocal training. The improvement vocal skill from itzy to nmixx is hug. But even twice improve alot in their live singing they still ge a lot of hate

  • @zarib
    @zarib 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It was surprising that Eunchae was ranked higher than Sakura, Garam and Kazuha, but got the least line distribution in le sserafim

  • @loixuix
    @loixuix ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For Fearnots (Le Sserafim's fandom):
    111 Sakura (F) 1:19
    93 Kazuha (F) 3:53
    58 Garam (F+) 9:40
    57 Eunchae (F+) 9:53
    39 Chaewon (E+) 13:19
    9 Yunjin (C) 19:47

  • @Serene_Fandom
    @Serene_Fandom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    9:47 Isn't Garam a better vocalist than eunchae

  • @mimi_imfat
    @mimi_imfat ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is 119 idols on the list and up to the 56th they’re all either F or F+… and from those 63 idols only like 4-5 at best are actually good/decent rappers. I know it’s kpop but still kinda crazy to me how you can not have any decent talent in vocals nor rapping and still debut in a musical industry.

  • @dindapurki
    @dindapurki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Purple Kiss 5/7 supported
    117 Yuki (non vocalist but main rapper) check her self-written rap verse on purple kiss discographies
    88 Ireh (non vocalist but main dancer) check her boygroup covers on youtube
    53 Jieun (underdeveloped E-)
    47 Dosie (weak E+)
    19 Chaein (Weak to average D+)
    18 Swan (Weak to average D+)
    7 Goeun (Average C)

  • @hyeooni
    @hyeooni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For Clike:y
    13 - Chaewon
    17 - Boeun
    23 - Jimin
    31 - Hyungseo
    41 - Seonyou
    70 - Riwon
    90 - Hyeju
    Also secret CLASS:y member
    16:17

  • @jv_YTch
    @jv_YTch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Liz has definitely the capabilities but the opportunity isn't given to her. This is why everyone was so mad at the fact the she wasn't given one of the chorus parts for After LIKE.

  • @cynkosmicwitch
    @cynkosmicwitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    LILY VOCAL QUEEN 👑

  • @chaesflavor
    @chaesflavor ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Moonsua being tier 3 rapper and D+ Vocalist
    12 years training isn't wasted

  • @bluemoon8065
    @bluemoon8065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good ranking. It’s accurate. I’ve been saying that best vocalist doesn’t mean main vocalist in many groups, but there are people that think that position of the group represent the talent of them.
    I think in 3rd gen basically all main vocalist are the best in their group (only Dreamcatcher maybe being the exception) but it’s quite common in 4rd gen the best vocalist isn’t the main vocalist.

    • @Aetumn12
      @Aetumn12 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who's the best vocalist in dreamcatcher then?Jiu or Yoohyeon? Although i think Yoohyeon is also main vocalist alongside Siyeon

    • @tjsquibbofficial
      @tjsquibbofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aetumn12 The Dreamcatcher vocal ranking is:
      1. Siyeon
      2. Yoohyeon
      3. SuA (controversial I know)
      4. JiU
      5. Handong
      6. Gahyeon
      7. Dam

    • @marcy_marcy2895
      @marcy_marcy2895 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Aetumn12 it's yoohyeon

  • @skzsmenuiscd3721
    @skzsmenuiscd3721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You could've included agility, stamina, dynamics and not just the support range. Vocal is more than that.

    • @culturedswine4003
      @culturedswine4003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      You can’t be good at any of that without support. Nobody on this list has standout potential in agility besides Ning Ning and haewon (who are both ranked high). Kpop in general has almost zero focus on agility so it wouldn’t make sense to have that as a factor in analyzing the idols’ techniques
      What do you mean by stamina? Do you mean vocal stamina? Stamina will come with well developed chords and support

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I used all of those in my ranking. That’s why Miyeon (who has only supports at best to Bb4) is higher than ppl like Jiwoo and Liz (who have supported B4s) bcuz she has better head voice, quality, and dynamics. Ik what I’m talking abt

  • @sugarcere
    @sugarcere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    gaeul is really high can someone explain why and how she’s a better vocalist than wonyoung , leeseo and REI?!?!😟

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      She manages to stay more relaxed and has a better approach than all of them. She rarely ever strains (but that could just be her lack of lines).

    • @CheShiny
      @CheShiny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@leedosbf that last sentence hurt 🥲

    • @lillycamp8892
      @lillycamp8892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@leedosbf I severely disagree with you,,, gaeul is just speak singing and there isn’t any artistry happening with her tone

    • @MinatozakiMiyawaki
      @MinatozakiMiyawaki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@lillycamp8892 That's why this support theory isn't just the basis for a good vocalist. Well ig it provides a solid ground for vocalists, but some of them definitely don't have that control with their voice. Gaeul is pretty much their weakest vocalist, imo.

    • @lillycamp8892
      @lillycamp8892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MinatozakiMiyawaki exactly, like I definitely understand support theory and it does make sense somewhat, if you have good breath support and are using your diaphragm and ab muscles to sing, then everything else should be easier to control, but a lot of these people with “support” barely do anything else other than that

  • @reallslimshadyy
    @reallslimshadyy ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for including Soojin, Garam, Jinni, Ireh, and Jiyoon 💜

    • @ploryz
      @ploryz ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ireh is still in purple kiss

    • @reagansandidge8839
      @reagansandidge8839 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s Jieun who left purple kiss

  • @ReddFGC
    @ReddFGC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    For Bellie've
    1. Haram (5th)
    2.Suhyeon (11th)
    3.Moon Sua (26th)
    4.Sheon (52th)
    5.Siyoon (77th)
    6.Tsuki (78th)
    7.Haruna (91st)

    • @foodlover8708
      @foodlover8708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finally a belllie've 😭😭😭

  • @olivia-nx8xf
    @olivia-nx8xf ปีที่แล้ว +6

    finally haram getting the recognition she deserves as one of 4th gens best vocalists

  • @hezelia
    @hezelia ปีที่แล้ว +13

    SM seems to really value vocal abilities in their idols. From SNSD (Taeyeon) to RV (Wendy) to Aespa (NingNing). I can’t wait to see NingNing grow into a better vocalist, reaching Taeyeon’s rank.

    • @KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
      @KoALa_tOo_BAsIc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not with her light approach

    • @rakransangma4520
      @rakransangma4520 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah she needs more bolder or chesty approach

  • @minerliton2481
    @minerliton2481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Finally, someone appreciating Giselle's vocals

  • @a1dart
    @a1dart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    haseul being the only e tier vocalist with supported head voice 😍😍😍

  • @dumbdumbo7984
    @dumbdumbo7984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I didnt expect some classy girls like boeun, jimin and hyungseo to be in top 30 ngl

  • @Skyhasbeenleft
    @Skyhasbeenleft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    BAE: 14:26
    Jiwoo: 15:23
    Jinni: 17:03
    Kyujin: 17:26
    Sullyoon: 18:49
    my bias (Haewon) 21:30
    Lily: 21:53

    • @_daisy_chae
      @_daisy_chae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haewon is my bias too

    • @Skyhasbeenleft
      @Skyhasbeenleft 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_daisy_chae that means we are almost identical

    • @marcoshedrikson4422
      @marcoshedrikson4422 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are talking about Goddess Haewon, yes she is my bias too!!

  • @steakoncearmyengene9326
    @steakoncearmyengene9326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Knowing Nmixx is from JYP makes me prouder!

    • @Anjan_-
      @Anjan_- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then u must be proud to know jiwon is from jyp too

    • @steakoncearmyengene9326
      @steakoncearmyengene9326 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Anjan_- yep of course!!! Jiwon has such a beautiful vocals!!!! I've been stanning her since sixteen!!! 😭😭😭😭💕💕💕💕💕💕💕

  • @jv_YTch
    @jv_YTch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Amazed at the fact that Eunchae is just a place higher than Garam, despite me liking Garam's voice a bit more than Eunchae...

    • @choerryknif3191
      @choerryknif3191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      well, we could not even see the potential garam had and she lacks material, same to eunchae

  • @inzaghiscornsalad7034
    @inzaghiscornsalad7034 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    15:44 had NO idea miyeon sounded like that wtf i need to listen to them again

  • @Kpopsta_n
    @Kpopsta_n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    4th generations vocal trinity is Haewon, Lily, and Ningning.
    Why?
    Lily, best in Upper register.
    Haewon, boldest in mix register.
    Ningning, best in low register.

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention they all have supported hv

    • @aamorlu
      @aamorlu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062ningning does not have a supported hv

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aamorlu at her best she does, even the vocal community agrees, she just needs more materials

  • @CrownPrinceEdvin
    @CrownPrinceEdvin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    How the fuck is boeun d+ at age 13/14 incredible

    • @anaavila9326
      @anaavila9326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and she is self-taught too along 6/7 members of class:y :)

    • @CrownPrinceEdvin
      @CrownPrinceEdvin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gugsu kyujin is 16 though

    • @marigold4135
      @marigold4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it’s actually not that hard to get to C/C- so D+ isn’t hard just kpop idols don’t know how to train.

    • @CrownPrinceEdvin
      @CrownPrinceEdvin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marigold4135 girls 13 and trained for a few months this

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anaavila9326 I've seen some idols who self taught themselves how to sing, Swan of Craxy managed to achieve A-AA and she's also self taught, so seeing Boeun being able to achieve weak to average at a young age really impresses me, though I wish she can get formal training too, she'll sky rocket especially since she's young

  • @diyachaudhari9520
    @diyachaudhari9520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Everglow's members:-
    118)Yiren
    104)Onda
    80)Aisha
    71)E:U
    56)Mia
    37)Sihyeon

    • @kestdrain1446
      @kestdrain1446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      sihyeon deserves the main vocal position

    • @Caspian_Xx
      @Caspian_Xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kestdrain1446 fr , the company is so biased .

    • @darao.4907
      @darao.4907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EU being 3rd really surprised me

    • @btsismyoxyjin2013
      @btsismyoxyjin2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kestdrain1446 yesss

    • @mjgoat2366
      @mjgoat2366 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kestdrain1446 she isn’t stable live tho as much as Mia who is easily most stable

  • @sceltinho
    @sceltinho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    yunjin deserves to be higher idk... girlie has an amazing head voice and and i believe there has been some improvement in her chest/belting voice since she trained at hybe recently... like chaewon sounds less strained than before so i think yunjin maybe improved too but we need more material to make a conclusion

  • @princelime5676
    @princelime5676 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i dont believe how yunjin got so high after coachella IJBOL

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      well this ranking is very old lol, she’s definitely been moved down as of recently

  • @Popkpoph
    @Popkpoph ปีที่แล้ว +2

    19:26 this girl bring me to heaven 🪄🦋

  • @DA_Ald
    @DA_Ald 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    NMIXX devoured this list❤

    • @leedosbf
      @leedosbf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And to think this is them with their very minimal amount of materials. They all WILL be higher on this with more stuff. Rlly hoping for Bae is mid-high W-A, Jinni+Sully+Kyujin in low Average, and Lily to low AA-P

    • @alenanela1743
      @alenanela1743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@leedosbf I’m not sure if you’ve seen the v live of their karaoke, but it’s basically 2 hours of materials to judge them one! Granted, they’re having fun and messing around, but their vocals are INSANELY good in it. You can find the video on youtube

    • @namjoonbestleader6936
      @namjoonbestleader6936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alenanela1743 yup exactly