18th Century Welsh Genealogy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ย. 2021
- Have you struggled pushing your Welsh genealogy research back before the 1841 census? In this video I talk about how I do late 18th C. and early 19th C. research, focussing on a Mary Davies of the ancient house of Blaenywern and co-heiress of Tynlofft, Tynrhos, and Drymddu.
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Public Domain Images:
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Jenkins, Dan, and Ap Ceredigion. 1904. Cerddi Cerngoch: Gyda Detholion o Waith ‘Amnon II’ ‘Hywel’ ac ‘Aeronian.’ Lampeter: Caxton Hall.
David Davis, Castellhywel Photo
• hdl.handle.net/10107/4673253
Evan Williams article, p. 189
hdl.handle.net/10107/2826114
Williams, Mary 1844 Bu Farw, p. 236
hdl.handle.net/10107/2822751
Nonconformist Chapels 1915
• hdl.handle.net/10107/5185064
Evans, George Eyre
• hdl.handle.net/10107/5449707
Newspaper Page- Yr Amserau
• newspapers.library.wales/view...
Ancestry Images
For use as necessary for professional family history research.
Map of Cardiganshire. Lewis, Samuel. 1833. Wales Topographical Dictionary + Illustrated Wales. London: S. Lewis & Co. Accessed through Ancestry.
Burial Records
Census Records
Welsh wills (also accessible for free from NLW website)
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National Library of Wales (Building)
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Llanfair Clydogau Church
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• John Lord, 2013, Church of St Mary, Llanfair Clydogau
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Bettws Bledrws Church
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• Dylan Moore, 2008, Parish church: Betws Bledrws
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Wales Relief Map
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• Attribution: Nilfanion, 2011. Relief map of Wales, UK. Ordnance Survey. OpenData
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This video has received some nasty comments about my pronunciation. I just want to be clear that we don't judge others here for their competency in the Welsh language. So many of us were never able or allowed to grow up speaking and learning Welsh because of centuries of structural anti-Welshness. My great grandparents were poor and thought the only way to have a better life was to never speak to my Grampie in Welsh. That was his biggest regret in life and he died never being able to even form a sentence. That's my family's story and that's what twists the Welsh words that come out of my mouth. I am so proud of what I've been able to teach myself thus far and will continue learning. I encourage everyone to engage with the language no matter what level you're at. Pronounce things wrong. Have bad grammar. Speak bad Welsh shamelessly. If we all wait until we reach perfection, the Welsh language will be gone. We need learners and we need Welsh speakers who will encourage and support that learning.
Must admit I did smile at some of your pronunciations, but it was only smile. Amazed you would get any abuse. Some people just got to give it out, yet couldn't contribute positively as you have with this.
As a Welsh speaker your pronouciation of our language is pretty damned good and you are obviously very proud of your Welsh heritage...BENDIGEDIG 🏴👍
I think speaking as a Welsh woman you have pronounced this beautiful language really well . Please do t listen to the trolls xxx I am very interested in what you say . I have only managed to trace my ancestors on my paternal grandmother’s side to the Griffiths of Anglesey xxx
I agree that the comments are cruel and unnecessary. The fact that people understand what you are saying and still feel the need to comment shows that the antiwelsh mindset has seeped into the very culture it objects. As a welsh man I love hearing anybody speak welsh at any level. All this being said I don't think the comments should be deleted I think people need to see how it is to be welsh in an anglicised world. i'r hen iaith barhau!
@@windsorblue4852 Yma o hyd ! 🏴
This was so interesting! Great advice too 😊
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! :)
Fascinating stuff, well done, great advice. Carry on producing, I enjoy your vids very much.
Thanks! :)
Interesting video - thoughtful genealogy!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting , my family are descended from the Vaughans of Trawsgoed in Cardiganshire , the Vaughans descended from Collwyn ap Tango .
Very cool. None of my lines meet up with the pedigreed noble families yet. Just be careful with who they claim to be descended from, because often there's no documentary proof and they made it up just to legitimize their status in the present.
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I do have the family tree , part of the family moved to the welsh marches ,there are memorials to the family in St Laurence 's church Ludlow .
Williams, Davis, Jones, it sounds like half of Alabama
Definitely. I'm not super read up about Welsh migration to the US yet (that'll be a future video), but I'm sure a lot of them ended up in Alabama. I just quickly Googled and turns out Alabama and Appalachia have some old myths about Welsh explorers too.
@@GenealCymru my mother was a Williams from Central Alabama, one of nine kids.The women in the family drove men crazy. The men looked like little gorillas with long arms and huge shoulders. I heard this was the last clan to leave Iberia and land in South Wales. They descended from Roger Wms.
My Davis families settled in Pennsylvania.But I do know my g-grand father spoke Welsh and English.Would love to know where in Wales the family oriented.also he took care of his grandma,Mary Osterday.
Very cool. I had some people end up in Pennsylvania too. I have some client spots open if you want a professional genealogist to do some work on you Davis lines for you. My email is GenealCymru[at]outlook.com. No pressure, just an option. But also, I definitely have a whole bunch of Welsh migration videos on my list and Pennsylvania will be covered eventually.
Ah, the Davies's! There are too many of them. And when you have an 1851 ancester named William Davies (there are lots of them too), it can be difficult to go further with any degree of certainty.
For sure. It often takes something beyond the Census or Baptisms/Marriages/Burials to figure it out. That's why I love the NLW databases
This made me smile! I grew up adopted, with an extremely unique name, and was tortured for it, at one point I begged my dad to change our last name to Miller as he (and I) loved his mom, but he had only negative feelings for his father, who’d died years before. I would never have believed I would one day semi-appreciate that unique name and that Thomas Watkins and Davis would bring me such frustration!! I found my birth name at 28 and hyperventilated for a week at the shock of having been named Jennifer Watkins Davis.
Are you “attending” the RootsTech/Family Search conference that is this weekend? There’s always a lot of British, sometimes Wales-specific, sessions, and thanks to Covid it’s both free and virtual! I think they’re making many? all? sessions available for at least awhile, sometimes a long while.
Also, have you found much old bardic information? My maternal GGgrandfather was a bard but it’s been absurdly hard to find his parents and most of what I’ve found are newspaper documents relating to his singing, conducting or in Eistoddfod from 1860s-1870s. I think his father’s from an old family just east of Ystradgynlais; there’s a very old cemetery there with both Reeses and Watkinses; it’s not on any cemetery site so far, but I don’t know if I’ll get there. Have you ever heard of any publications regarding bards from other areas? His bardic name was Ehedydd Cynlais.
Yep! I've been watching some of the talks. It's been nice so far. I think they're available for 6months after, so it'll give a lot of time to watch. There are a couple Wales-specific ones on my list.
As for bards. Yes, I've looked a lot into the bards, but mostly around Lampeter area. There's a lot of bards in that part of my family. I haven't come across his name before unfortunately. I've found Google Books to be another really useful place to look for information. If he was widely-known, he may have an entry in the old National Biography books.
Also, if you can find a parish history book. There might be one written for the Eisteddfodau on that area.
@@GenealCymru where might I find National Biography books-are these in one place, and are they about individuals, or regional?
I generally just find them through Google Books. If you search his name there, if there's anything in those books they should come up. I've found that Google Books is a really useful place to search for bards.