Great explanation, but it ok if you have a nice big bathroom, most domestic bathrooms are less than 2mts , not big enough to swing a cat in not that I would swing a cat . Fantastic video Marcos as always.👍👍👍❤️
I had a nightmare with a new bathroom (same layout as the old bathroom)a few years ago over zones. Plumber and electrician v British Gas over a boiler in a full height cupboard as they believed it was possible to stand in the bath and access the boiler. We stood in the bath and could get nowhere close… even an orangutang could not have reached! A third party electrician said put a lock on the door and tell them it’s now an enclosure exempted from zoning, just like the bath panel. BG were less than happy even when the on site guide page number was offered, but eventually they agreed!
Where do people get "13A socket outlets" from? They are actually rated at 20A. The main reason being, not too sure about this, but it makes sense in my opinion. Is that it takes 21A+ for a 13A bs1361 fuse wire to pop.
I'm British and I can tell you: The UK's rules are stupid. I do things myself and ignore them. Europe has full voltage, normally fused 16 amp sockets right next to their basins and it's fine. Just put one in with it's own RCD. Europe doesn't have copper saving 32 amp ring circuits like UK and Ireland does, or fused plugs, but I don't care. Charging toothbrushes and shavers in a different room is ridiculous.
Are all the zones only relative to baths? Can you put a fused spur under a toilet cistern (for like those macerators), surely that's a lot of water if it starts leaking? What about if you don't have a fixed shower head, you could take it off and spray water above you onto extractor fans etc
Amazing how hard it is to find a correct diagram on the internet for bathroom zones - almost every single one has a zone around the taps incorrectly. No idea where that particular urban myth appeared from but it's prevalent on pretty much every plumbing site and a lot of "DIY" ones, as well as some electrical ones that should know better. (Some of the better ones at least state that it's "good practise" rather than requirement, but the diagram is still wrong). Lets not even get started on the whole "you can't have a light switch inside a bathroom" that is also ingrained into almost everyone for no apparent reason.
You're right they all get it wrong. It comes from the guild for lighting installers who at some point recommended for good practice that a sink should be treated as having an area around it classed as zone 2, which then subsequently got corrupted and misquoted.
I never could understand why we can’t have a 13amp socket in a bathroom if it is less than 3mts now 2.5mts from the edge of the bath or shower tray , yet it is acceptable to have one 300mm from the edge of the sink in a kitchen. Defies logic.but who am I to argue i’am just a humble spark who’s opinion means nothing.
because paternalism and safetyism are now worse than ever. In the old days we used to just let people suffer the consequences when they did stupid things.
@@robertwilliams7222 don’t be a prat , it’s to do with electricity and water , correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t a washing machine and dishwasher use water ? And if the intake pipe or drain off pipe burst wile those machines are on they will spay water over the plug and socket witch is behind those machines. Secondly you don’t know me or anything about me so don’t question me about weather or not I’am an electrician. And if you can’t respect other peoples opinion’s Then don’t reply to there comments. Also I think you’ll find kitchen’s are deemed special locations at least they are by the building regulations .
Very educational. I'm not an electrician but it's nice to educate myself 😊
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Great explanation, but it ok if you have a nice big bathroom, most domestic bathrooms are less than 2mts , not big enough to swing a cat in not that I would swing a cat .
Fantastic video Marcos as always.👍👍👍❤️
Great video. Can you do a video discussing the safety issues that are considered by the design folk that decide these zones
simple explain with area. easy to understand
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Excellent easy to understand nice one 👍👍 looking forward to the video on supplementary bonding 👌👌
Great work gsh
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I had a nightmare with a new bathroom (same layout as the old bathroom)a few years ago over zones. Plumber and electrician v British Gas over a boiler in a full height cupboard as they believed it was possible to stand in the bath and access the boiler. We stood in the bath and could get nowhere close… even an orangutang could not have reached! A third party electrician said put a lock on the door and tell them it’s now an enclosure exempted from zoning, just like the bath panel. BG were less than happy even when the on site guide page number was offered, but eventually they agreed!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and your detailed message 👍🏻
Where do people get "13A socket outlets" from? They are actually rated at 20A.
The main reason being, not too sure about this, but it makes sense in my opinion. Is that it takes 21A+ for a 13A bs1361 fuse wire to pop.
I'm British and I can tell you: The UK's rules are stupid. I do things myself and ignore them. Europe has full voltage, normally fused 16 amp sockets right next to their basins and it's fine. Just put one in with it's own RCD. Europe doesn't have copper saving 32 amp ring circuits like UK and Ireland does, or fused plugs, but I don't care. Charging toothbrushes and shavers in a different room is ridiculous.
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Thank you buddy
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Do you do underwater plug sockets....so I can dry my hair whilst having a bath???
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can i put a rcd socket in a large airincubard 2 meters away from bath
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Great explanation 👍👍always an issue
Thanks for watching and commenting John
What about a wetroom? Where does zone 1 end here?
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@@GSHElectrical nice. With the IP system - can I hard wire ipx5 stuff right in the shower area. Like if I wanted to watch the *cough* news.
What about in a large wetroom without a curtain?
We will get to wet rooms soon 👍🏻
Why not put the shower on full and the limit of the spray is outside zone ,eh?
Are all the zones only relative to baths?
Can you put a fused spur under a toilet cistern (for like those macerators), surely that's a lot of water if it starts leaking?
What about if you don't have a fixed shower head, you could take it off and spray water above you onto extractor fans etc
Baths or shower trays. Basically anywhere you can stand in water.
Who is going to put a socket 2.5mtrs away from a bath ?
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Amazing how hard it is to find a correct diagram on the internet for bathroom zones - almost every single one has a zone around the taps incorrectly. No idea where that particular urban myth appeared from but it's prevalent on pretty much every plumbing site and a lot of "DIY" ones, as well as some electrical ones that should know better. (Some of the better ones at least state that it's "good practise" rather than requirement, but the diagram is still wrong).
Lets not even get started on the whole "you can't have a light switch inside a bathroom" that is also ingrained into almost everyone for no apparent reason.
You're right they all get it wrong. It comes from the guild for lighting installers who at some point recommended for good practice that a sink should be treated as having an area around it classed as zone 2, which then subsequently got corrupted and misquoted.
I never could understand why we can’t have a 13amp socket in a bathroom if it is less than 3mts now 2.5mts from the edge of the bath or shower tray , yet it is acceptable to have one 300mm from the edge of the sink in a kitchen.
Defies logic.but who am I to argue i’am just a humble spark who’s opinion means nothing.
because paternalism and safetyism are now worse than ever. In the old days we used to just let people suffer the consequences when they did stupid things.
Yeah but your not standing in your kitchen sink with bare feet. Zones only refer to bathtubs and shower trays.
@@robertwilliams7222 yet it’s ok to put a socket behind the cooker and behind a washing machine and or dishwasher.
@@seandempsey7351 what has the kitchen got to do with this video? Or bathroom zones! It’s not a special location!! You say your an electrician!! 🤦♂️
@@robertwilliams7222 don’t be a prat , it’s to do with electricity and water , correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t a washing machine and dishwasher use water ? And if the intake pipe or drain off pipe burst wile those machines are on they will spay water over the plug and socket witch is behind those machines. Secondly you don’t know me or anything about me so don’t question me about weather or not I’am an electrician. And if you can’t respect other peoples opinion’s
Then don’t reply to there comments. Also I think you’ll find kitchen’s are deemed special locations at least they are by the building regulations .