How to Batten a wall the easy way
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Batten a wall the easy way with some tips and tricks that I cover in the video, also try this method when you next try to do a batten out job on a wall, it makes it super easy
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Robin, between you and a select few TH-camrs you’ve taught me to build 2 entire additional storeys onto my bungalow. Every video you do is used to help me. I had no experience prior to this and I’m not fully watertight and battening out walls !!! Thank you
And I bet you the quality in your work beats many out there doing it for a living
@@tw8633 haha your right. That’s what’s made me realise I couldn’t do it for a living ! The balance between care and time taken must be almost impossible to achieve. One has to give over the other ? Thanks though mate I’ll take that as a compliment!
I work on sites mate the standard of work is terrible @@tw8633
Love what robin does but that wall could off been dot and dabded/ dry lined within 15 min labour and at less cost. Just needs a bit of plasterboard adhesive mixed up board cut to size etc etc etc. for the end consumer ie your client doing it robins way is going to be more labour intensive and not as cost effective . I know he says why it’s not dot and dabbed but its only a meter section of wall 🤦🏻♂️ dot and dab also wouldn’t lose as much of the internal floor space.
@@stillloading2702 yes but it’s not for and dab because there’s a kitchen going against that wall so it’s need to be strong and straight. Then you can also screw OSB to make the wall solid for fixings :)
I’m ex-military, have done a city and guilds carpentry course. These videos are invaluable! Kind of like a TH-cam apprenticeship.
Hi Fraser, glad you like the videos mate and thank you for your service
It’s an absolute joy watching a pro like you at work Robin 👍👍
My first thought also was I’d just dot and dab the brickwork section but got to admit that’s a much nicer job 👍🏻
Had to pause the video just to say thanks for being an awesome TH-camr! Well explained and I see myself being as skilled as you one day!
I appreciate that!
lol. Just about to tackle an identical situation in own home, this couldn’t have came at a better time. Now I’ll keep this to myself and my mates will think I’m a genius 😊
Thanks Robin, another Glaswegian here
You are such a gentleman sharing your knowledge with us, I just wish you could have put this video out a couple of years ago 😂 I really struggled to get my wall and ceiling straight level and plumb by one batten at a time 🤬 brilliant video 👍
The time absolutely flies by watching this type of content! I picked up so much from this vid - thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Robin people like you are blessings. Definitely made my job easy. Great work and many thanks for such videos.
Your welcome mate
Honestly this may look simple but the levelling is so awkward the way you've done it is awesome , Thankyou for sharing your knowledge it's priceless
My pleasure 😊
That was a real pleasure to watch. How nice to have so much space to work in too.
If I was going to do a carpentry apprenticeship it would have to be with you because your processes are simple your quality excellent and your knowledge is 100%. Keep up the great work
Thoroughly enjoyed watching that, and filed away those processes for later use. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Robin, for months of milling about over what to do in my own house. I totally overlooked this idea. Legend, thanks again.
Thank you Robin, watching your videos is always a pleasure because of your way of presenting and for all the incidental little bits of hard won experience you share!!
You are so welcome!
Great to see this - it all seems so obvious when you explain it! Thanks for sharing all those tips. I'm framing a wall before putting up plasterboard, so really helpful 😁
Glad it was helpful!
Love watching RD working and thinking a head to make life simpler. Lots of little tips as well.
I'm very much a novice at this stuff but have bought a Fixer-Upper and have got to learn! This channel might be just what I need! Thank you. I really enjoyed watching this☺️
Welcome aboard!
Robbin you just keep getting better, your like the UK equivalent to the US 'Essential Carpenter' 🙂
That is such a nice compliment!! He's a legend!!
Great video Robin, makes so much sense and simplifies the process of trying to pack individual battens, just done something similar 👍
👍👌👏 The only trouble with working off the floor is that, wherever you go, they always put the floor so low down! 🙄😖🤣
Not when you are Robin’s height he is half way there….. 😅
I am more Ed’s height and I thought that is along way away…..
Thank you for sharing your knowledge Robin Many people give up on DIY after getting frustrated when things do not work out Your procedure's Make it easier for people to learn,Check , Plumb and square as i was taught Well done Regards from NZ
Good video and interesting technique. I would’ve dot and dabbed the brick wall and made sure the PB extended well over to the stud wall so I’d install a couple of sheets landscape to avoid cracks appearing.
Would never have thought of doing it that way. Great job man.
Thank you kind sir for sharing your skills
Your welcome Shaun
Thanks for the detailed explanation Robin. I wish you built my house. 👍
I’ve packed out plenty of batten walls, never done it this way… but will now - cheers Robin
Thank you Robin, I'm about to build a soundproof wall in my home studio and needed this exact information. You've presented it in a clear and easy to follow way. Can't wait to get started now, cheers!
Your welcome Matt!!
Simply lovely how you share your skills with us, very helpful Robin. Cheers, Bert.
Such a nice result, well done Robin
Yes, ear defenders take it from one who has Tinnitus 24 / 7 just to re-iterate it never goes from industrial noise over several years.
Just a constant F# at a very high pitch.
Awesome work at speed! Wish I could find a carpenter like you who sees the bigger picture and does structural solutions and doesn’t just want to make a fast buck with mdf cupboards
I love these videos, I’ve learned a lot from them and would like to thank you for taking the time to make them. Anyone just starting out in the trade this Chanel can help you a a lot and is invaluable in its knowledge, I fully recommend 👍🏽
Thanks mate
Quick tip I only buy packer sizes 1mm 2mm 5mm and 10mm as they can make up all the widths needed. Cheers keep up the good work .
So glad I watched this before starting my drylining project, am convinced this is the best way to go about it - many thanks for another excellent video.
Thanks Julian!!
Just like that !....you make it look so easy lol
I did this for weeks and weeks many years ago. It almost made me change careers.
Hi Robin , another simple video to follow👍👍😃😃, I find those brick/concrete screws a pain they damage the brick or wall to easy, I use framing Rawl plug and screw all in one , just a masonry bit for hole into wall, hit the Rawl plug into wall with hammer no messing around with different drill bits to fix ,what ever size your fixing is the size drill bit, and just unscrew with a Pozi driver .
Having lovely plumb, flat, true walls makes a kitchen install soooo much easier and, in fact, longer-lasting.
Great video Robin showing us great tips. Another great educational teaching points.
Great video content as always. Never thought about drilling from one side for a pilot, then screw from the other side to make sure it lines up right. Awesome tip there. Thanks 😊
Brilliant video. Feel confident now to get my project underway. Thank so much for sharing
Interesting video, along with the longest spirit level I've ever seen. Looks like you install the plasterboard vertically over there. Here in Australia, we usually install it horizontally.
Love watching you work you are a genius with wood
Thank you so much 😀
Nicely done Robin. Great solution to an out of plumb wall. 👍👍
The only person I trust who uses screws for framing
Thank I was looking for a video like this. This is full of knowledge.
Glad it was helpful!
There are still a couple of issues you need to take into consideration. First is, you will always get flex at the point of joining so plasterboard should never butt up at a joint between brickwork and studwork. The other issue I found out the hard way is sound proofing is impossible with dot and dab and on framed plasterboard, you need to ensure there are zero voids and fill with something like rockwool slabs.
I used this technique today, with a slight twist. I am battening a bathroom wall (DIY), but there isn't enough floor space to build on the floor like this - so I cut all the pieces first and assembled it up against the wall, without attaching to the wall. Then, with the perimeter assembled, I packed, drilled and screwed to the wall. I reasoned that the essential benefit of this technique is really that the assembled frame holds all the pieces in the right place, like a load of extra hands, making it dead easy to get the fixings in without having to hold the battens yourself. It was really easy, and perfectly flat at the end!
Well done Andy!! You smashed it today!! I feel super happy when I get a message like yours, you mention the fact that you are a Diy'er but.. that does not mean that you don't have great ability, common sense and good hand eye coordination that is what you need to become skilled at this kind of task!! I would love to see a picture of your result maybe pop one over to me on Insta!! Well done
Thanks Robin, it's really kind of you to give me such an encouraging reply! I will post some pics once I'm a bit further along - when one of my TH-cam "heroes" asks to see my efforts, I'm going to make sure I've got something good to show :D
Use the same method. Sometimes I’ll clamp the level/straight edge to the stud work to save holding it whilst packing the batten. I’m not personally a huge fan of those fixings. Plugs can be a faff but they’re far stronger in my opinion. Especially into softer substrates. Great video as always.
Good timing! I'm doing a batten wall next week!
Same
Very neat job. Best part of the day, having the sable Cocker Spaniel come and check on your well-being. A good day 😁
The first potential solution (plastering) is always a bad idea anyway because no matter how well you think you join it, there will always be a likely vertical crack where the materials meet.
Why not just put a board over the join? On side dabbed the other side fixed
@@ninety1464 I think here because the wall was not plumb.
@stepbackandthink doesnt matter, you can dab a board square if the masonry is 2 inches out of plumb or more. And as he described you'd just build your studwork using the outermost point of the masonry wall as the datum
I’m not disagreeing with you.
He doesn’t trust the plasterers (wise)
Great video Robin, I hope to build my own house soon so will be checking out more videos!!! 🙂
Thanks Rob. I need to board the inside of my outbuilding and this will be ideal! Just need to learn about what membrane and insulation to use now!
Jaysus mate I've a job there Tommorow at work big 5 metre span wall to be battened out and it's like a fiddlers elbow gonna give this a try and see how I get on 👍
Thanks Robin & Ed, very handy lesson, one for the files as it will come in handy one day. Cheers guys.
Great video, but I would still dot and dab that wall as I think it's faster. I'd install the plasterboard horizontal, so the sheet landed on the studs and the masonry so there was no vertical join between the substrates. Doing this also gives you the stud wall to tap off, guaranteeing it stays plumb and flat
The thing I notice on all your videos is you still love doing the job. Good on ya mate 👍🏻
Yep I really enjoy my work!!
So good. So so good. Thx man from Ireland
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very good Robin, I would say when I first started the only thing available was a Rawl Drill that was hammered into the brick then carve the plug from a piece of wood with a knife hahaha So yes this is much easier.
One other point, was the screw that you almost caught you head on at 31:16 left there as a cup holder of coat hook haha.
Always good to watch your vids. My wife said, "I wonder where Ed is" and you said, "here's Ed" as though you heard hahaha
Love your videos! You are my go to for carpentry. I'm off to batten a wall as opposed to dob and dab. 😃
Well done good to see a good Chippie
i so wish i would have seen this about six months ago when i was trying to straighten a Victorian brick loft wall. So simple
I've never thought of building a frame when battening a wall with lath. It's a no brainer when you see it done.
Very good system.. nice tools too
Should be done by Christmas mate😁😁😅😂
Coming along nice Darren 👌
Fantastic video Robin!
Great video mate. Very helpful 👍
Love your videos as always robin! You’re a big inspiration to me thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you so much!
Good info here I do get good results but I do individual battens the pre build is better cheers
no ear defenders with a masonry drill, naughty robin.
I liked the brickwork.
Lovely dog. 😍
Robin, have you ever worked with metal studwork? I had never really thought about it before, but discovered it is actually the norm in residential properties in France to completely build them out of metal, and it kind of baffles me that we don't use it more here. Metal never warps, never bows, is always true (these points are especially important as someone dealing with an old house - it makes me hate wood!) and it doesn't rot or decay (also great for a rainy climate like ours). About the main con I can think of, it is that it is absolutely terrible for insulation, transferring heat about 400x more than wood. But if you're building a metal framed house from scratch, you could account for that with external insulation and a warm roof.
I suppose you could also add on that the quality of wood in recent years is becoming utter crap, something you don't need to worry about with steel.
Fantastic video as always. On the video you have created a framing for that specific space. If you are doing a full room what size frames would you use? Assuming there is a maximum size.
Thanks
Top job again Robin
Great video Robin
spot on. The plastic folding wedge packers speed this up even more but they're a bit pricier.
I make my own tapered timber shims from scrap 4"x2" approximately 8" long on a table saw with a jig, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪
I have done it this way and just dot dabbed over which is much quicker.
Looks like the floor is newly laid to raise level so probably above doc level so need to add more under battens
Try putting a pouch on the right hand side of your Diamond Back rig Robin. That way you can holster your 12v impact or drill/driver. I do most of my drilling and driving with a Bosch 12V impact and Bosch 12v drill/driver. I usually have one of them holstered like a side arm on my right hand side. It's always there when i need it, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪
I need to adjust my rig to enable that, I had a belt clip on the M12 Milwaukee but It fell of and that was great as it hooked on the pouch!!!!
@@ukconstruction Indeed, if you switched over to the post type battery Rather than the platform type. The 12v impact and drill/driver's fit better that way. To be clear I'm not telling you what to do, just thinking out loud, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪
I like it! Any tips on screwing a batten through multifoil? 😥
perfection, thank you for making these videos so enjoyable and informative
Glad you like them!
One other question - let's say the wall you were battening on to was old Victorian plaster, so you couldn't see the brick coursing. Would you havk off all the plaster so you could see the bricks and centre your fixings, or leave the plaster on and take your chances?
Use expanding foam down back wood makes super strong
Very vert smart and intelligent 👍👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏
Gypline lad and expansion joint where 2 substrates meet ,other way ,6a on roof 6a on floor place top hat @ 400 centers pack behind and with packers bonding or expandion foam ,
This is good but time consuming,
Loads of ways to do the same job,
100 % for effort,
Keep it up
Thank you
Brilliant, so informative as always. I get that your work all seems to be for customers with absolute bag fulls of money so price isnt ever an issue, and you dont bother with small jobs, but there often seems to be an element of economy and ways not to waste money to you clips, and thats great.
Ever considered teaching in a college etc Rob? (I dont recommend it by the way 😂)
My customers are normal people and I still have to compete for the projects and often I am not the most expensive, in some cases I lose a job to another contractor and then I hear that the client had an awful experience and paid way more than the contractor estimated!!! I will teach when I am finished on the tools hopefully in my own college!!
@@ukconstructiongood to hear that...do you think pricing has got a little out of control since Covid?, it seems that everyone and their dog has become a tradesman. i despise the cowboys/rip of merchants, mainly because they make it so hard for the rest of us to make an honest and fair living. That said, the chancers always get sussed out in the end. Passing on your skills and obvious passion for the game is brilliant, I hope apprentices tune in, and good luck with future projects when you hang your tool belt up.
Have you tried expanding foam grab adhesive instead of packers? Squirt the foam then tighten screw down until battern is level then nip up when foam is solid. Ok if you have other jobs to while waiting.
I use it all the time.. brilliant stuff
John Johnstone bricklayer from Glasgow says hello Robin 😂
Brilliant thank you
Love you videos, You have so many tools by different manufacturers how do you decide which ones you will be using?
you missed one screw on 2nd stud knee level...half job jonny ....haha only kidding
QUESTION: I have 200+ year old 700mm sandstone walls. To improve moisture management in the walls can you put vents in the plasterboard into the void?
Great job, just wondering if you ever discovered that screw sticking out you missed?
Very similar to the method I’ve been using. Reassuring to know that a professional such as yourself is doing a similar thing. Though I suspect you may be a tad quicker 🤔😃
Thank you, 30 mins just flew by. Really insightful and so useful to help bridge what I learnt in college with real life on site situations. Is the short corner brace in the bottom left of the main stud frame there for strength or to help plumb the frame?
What's your view on clearing dust out of the hole before driving the concrete screws in? I always clear it in case the screw spins.
With any injected fixing like chemical resin I would always clear the hole. with the masonry screws the dust binds it all together and probably makes it stronger!!!
As usual another great video. Question: Would those battens have enough depth to accommodate a back box deeper than 25mm?
we can use a 38mm back box as the batten is 25mm and we will have 15mm plaster board and skim and the back box will finish just back from the skimmed surface, if we need to put a deeper box in we would chase some of the masonry out