Does This NEW Motocross Technique Actually Work!?

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    Over the past few years proper riding technique has taken a new trajectory when it comes to foot placement. More and more top athletes and coaches are practicing keeping their feet on the pegs, through jumps, through whoops, and now through corners.
    In this episode we share our experience conducting a little test and comparing the two techniques. For years motorcycle riders have been pointing their leg through ruts and turns. Is this right or wrong? No one knows!
    There is no right or wrong answer and it's too difficult to say that one technique is better than the other. Especially when considering all the different varieties of terrain. There are simply pros and cons to each. Watch the video to learn more and share your experience in the comments below!
    00:00 - Intro
    01:11 - Pointing Leg
    03:38 - Feet on Pegs
    05:58 - First Impressions
    07:15 - Lap Time Results
    08:30 - LitPro Results
    12:00 - Conclusion
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ความคิดเห็น • 159

  • @robertdensford261
    @robertdensford261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Some ruts in corners on MX tracks are too deep to properly lean the bike over. There literally isn't room for the foot on the inside peg and can cause you to jam your foot into the ground.
    Side note..Rodger Decoster was known for keeping his feet on the pegs in turns back in the 70's.

    • @Ltonice
      @Ltonice ปีที่แล้ว

      Some ruts in corners on MX tracks are too deep to properly lean the bike over. There literally isn't room for the foot on the inside peg and can cause you to jam your foot into the ground. (Corect ) But Not allways Did Roger do this for the verry reason Stated

  • @aMotoheadsGarage
    @aMotoheadsGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a long time MX rider, I did my first CC race last month. When I was going through the trails and passing people, I noticed that most would sit down to take a leg off. It seemed to cost them a bunch of time. Feet on the pegs and standing as much as I could helped me win that race. Now I'm not racing against Pro's and I'm a middle of the pack Vet B rider in MX. I was racing an Open AM class. It had kids and vet riders. Watching the A or Pro classes race, they def look more like MX riders than the B-C riders.

    • @greghamilton637
      @greghamilton637 ปีที่แล้ว

      You running in the woods feet on the pegs and butt off the seat is what it takes for 2 hours plus.

    • @aMotoheadsGarage
      @aMotoheadsGarage ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@greghamilton637 ??? I don’t understand the comment.

  • @Saa45MIV
    @Saa45MIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I think it’s worth keeping the feet on the pegs from a safety standpoint aswell.. less chance of jamming or twisting a knee.

    • @jacobtebrake6734
      @jacobtebrake6734 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But more chance of a wash out and getting stuck under the bike and breaking a fibula or the whole leg.

    • @captainwin6333
      @captainwin6333 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jacobtebrake6734 Only if you're used to waving your leg in the air. It's a mental thing, you don't think you're good enough to keep your feet on the pegs and avoid injury so you wave your leg in the air.
      A rider confident in his skills can keep his feet on the pegs.

    • @jacobtebrake6734
      @jacobtebrake6734 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don’t disagree, but I broke my fibula doing exactly that of keeping the foot on the peg. I am about 9 weeks out and just getting back to walking. I wouldn’t say there is a right or wrong. Just bad consequence either way.

    • @rumpelstiltskin6252
      @rumpelstiltskin6252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacobtebrake6734 ITS COMMON SENSE, no leg u fall on your face

    • @JimJones-gd2jy
      @JimJones-gd2jy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobtebrake6734 - Damn that sucks . . Be careful

  • @2smoking.and.4stroking
    @2smoking.and.4stroking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As always, great video. For 95% of trail riders, flow, momentum, and energy conservation will be faster always. Feet on the pegs, sitting or standing is more energy efficient and is easier to maintain momentum for riders that are not close to the limit of avalible traction. And frankly, if you are trail riding and actually squeezing out the last 5% of traction (like an mx rider), you are probably going to crash hard on the trail. Follow Chris Birch's rule, if it is less than 90 degree turn, stay standing. Actual racers who have hundreds of hours practicing leg pointing mx turn s, the speed value will actually possibly pay off. It take a high amount of practice to shift from standing to sitting forward with keg out WITHOUT disrupting suspension that will actually work again maintaining momentum. Most riders don't fall in this catagory.

  • @fredovchinnikoff210
    @fredovchinnikoff210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I ride nw. Woods n track, I noticed I flow faster with feet on pegs n standing thru turns compared to when I'm tired n sitting. A good set of aftermarket pegs will insure legs will stay more planted knees holding bike, so when u hit a rock root or run u can steer bike with knees and counter what bike wants to do. Good vid man.

    • @ridewiththeknights
      @ridewiththeknights  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video! Our next test should be which technique is faster over the course of 30 minutes or 1 hour. It's hard to tell how big of a difference it truly makes just from one or two lap times, however over the course of an entire off-road race it could add up to be a significant difference.

    • @fredovchinnikoff210
      @fredovchinnikoff210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like your videos, short n to the point, try riding without sitting, I ride a cr500 so my back wheel always hunting for traction so riding in the attack position seems to help until I get tired...that's when the mistakes seem to happen

  • @FastCoachToby
    @FastCoachToby ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I usually teach beginners riding with the leg out - and then later do as me, keeping the feet on the pegs in all easy turns ☝ but I still put the leg out in tricky turns, sweepers, and ruts (like most pros) where you foot could get pulled off or squashed by the track 👍

    • @mikeyp9894
      @mikeyp9894 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same

  • @backyardportageegomez4061
    @backyardportageegomez4061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I’m just a fire trail guy in nor cal but for years now I’ve tried to keep it feets up. I believe it’s because in my head that takes more skill/touch and it makes you have more skills

  • @nyhusdieter4086
    @nyhusdieter4086 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video , thanks for that input I'm gonna try this out .... keep racing

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in the first 25 hrs. of operation on a new 450, and I've noticed myself riding faster and more confidently now that the bike is dialed in for the terrain. I've been focusing on using the throttle to steer through corners more often, and keep my feet on the pegs. It's definitely given me confidence and I'm carrying more speed everywhere. If the bike is set up poorly, it's much harder to use this technique because it won't put the power down smoothly. Balance is soo important, and a bike that won't stay under you when pushed causes fatigue way faster.

  • @NorthWestMotos
    @NorthWestMotos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a newer rider I appreciate this content. Most of what I've have been seeing is people say to keep your foot on the pegs, but most of these folks are also talking about motocross tracks. I do try to keep my feet on the pegs as much as possible but it's nice to not feel so bad if I point my leg out in the turn in case traction gets weird. Thanks

    • @ridewiththeknights
      @ridewiththeknights  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have spent a lot of time practicing this technique and thinking about how it applies to off-road terrain. While riding a controlled environment and repeating the same lap over and over again, like on a motocross track, it is much easier to implement this technique. When riding slippery, hard packed off-road terrain that is highly unpredictable and your also interpreting the terrain for the first time while riding, it can be much more difficult to consistently keep your feet on the pegs.

  • @jasoncree4262
    @jasoncree4262 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it depends on the time and place, been through rutted corners with both feet off the pegs

  • @rebekahfrench5747
    @rebekahfrench5747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We all ride at diffrent levels and as ruts get deeper it can be a challenge to keep foot on inside peg.. but bike control and confidence is paramount.. as we grow older we find the ground gets harder and we dont bounce quite as well..

  • @oscarwanth9024
    @oscarwanth9024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanation, thank you

  • @steve_____K307
    @steve_____K307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe one consideration too is keeping your foot/leg safe through the corner. Many years ago I was helping with the Idaho City ISDE grass track and was observing on a particular corner and I watched a guy ride into the rutted corner with feet on the pegs. Part way in the wall of the rut caught the guy’s toe and in the course of ripping his foot off the peg it twisted and busted his lower leg. I just happened to see the whole thing as it unfolded.

    • @ridewiththeknights
      @ridewiththeknights  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, safety is always a big factor when considering both of these techniques. There are pros and cons to both techniques. Some would argue that by keeping your feet on the pegs you are less likely to catch your foot and twist your knee. Others debate that keeping your feet on the pegs can increase the risk of being caught. My opinion is that you always will run an inherent risk with pointing your leg through turns, but there are many times where I use my leg to catch myself from falling completely over. Yes I run the risk of injuring my knee, on the flip side you reduce the risk of injuring your shoulder/arm from a bigger tip over. No right answer, just different opinions. I think it's best to practice both techniques depending on how conducive the terrain is.

    • @steve_____K307
      @steve_____K307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @igot2wheelissues ... yes, it could be that his toes were pointed down too much, but it could also be that he started to bobble in the corner and his natural reaction was to start taking his foot off the peg and along the way got snagged. Not sure. It was probably just a fluke injury. Most of them are.

  • @ivyhillmxtraining1304
    @ivyhillmxtraining1304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad you did this video. All you gotta do is watch your favorite pro rider at a race - All of them WILL have a foot out in at least 80% of the corners around the track. The sharper and slower the corner is the more you need the inside foot out if you're leaning (Ruts or not). Next time you try this test, notice how your upper body loses counterbalancing ability. No doubt it's beneficial but there's a time and place for it.

    • @mikeyp9894
      @mikeyp9894 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Completely agree!

  • @vetb882
    @vetb882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like you.👍🏻🥰😎 Very good analysis of the new normal. Most of us, I'm 61 born in 61, grew up with the toe point turning technique.
    But, there was a 4x World Champion MX racer named Harry Everts who was of the pioneering generation of moto when bikes had 4 to 6 inches of travel who stood up most of the time to save their spine, he taught his son Stefan who became a 10x World Champion the same technique. I never gave the feet up a moments notice until the TV broadcasts started hilighting Eli Tomac and Chase Sexton using the feet up style.
    Watching this video, Stefan came to mind. He knew something a decade ago about feet up on the MX tracks.. TH-cam some of his racing videos and you'll see what I mean.
    You're correct in that a mx track is more consistent plus it's a closed loop, you off road heroes are racing wide open wild terrain and trying to consciously keep feet in the pegs IMHO is recipe for disaster.
    I go back to my Gary Semics, Tony D School teaching, "STAND for balance, sit for TRACTION."
    BRAAAP on, brothers.
    💪🏻🇺🇸🥰💖😎🇯🇲💪🏾

  • @MadeiraMotard
    @MadeiraMotard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very good vídeo. I'm re-learning to ride a dirt bike, so I can get rid of some bad habits, and this vídeo helped me realize that I have to keep my feet on the pegs, unless I feel unsafe. good vídeo, great info. cheers

    • @rideyourbike
      @rideyourbike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yap. Except when it's wise to pointing your leg through ruts and turns (eg: enduro/cross training). IMHO there's not one technic that fits all.
      Cheers mate (e um abraço de Lisboa).

    • @ridewiththeknights
      @ridewiththeknights  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @staneverts2372
    @staneverts2372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It worked for Stephen Everts and he was rather handy on a bike

  • @raymondharold5973
    @raymondharold5973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a hot topic for MX our grandsons are racing now (3rd generation) and have been applying it a lot the 9 yr old is really good at it and feels comfy with both wheels drifting and doesn’t panic when it happens on his 65 the middle one 7 yrs is good at it but a this point it costs him some corner speed, but he’s really fast on his KTM 50 in the heat of a challenging moto the faster rut’s have revert to foot up for confidence.

  • @Mostviews111
    @Mostviews111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've caught my foot on so many things especially off road riding I always want to stick it out and catch myself.

  • @katieshacks8149
    @katieshacks8149 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta try these when I learn to ride soon 😎

  • @threeheavensmusic
    @threeheavensmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like your riding a Sherco se 300 r ? Nice to see someone good driving a motocross course.

  • @bikerdude6119
    @bikerdude6119 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive always rode my bike on both pegs, my friends asked me if i ever feel like ima tip over , but on those sections i do put my foot out

  • @wildsideindia
    @wildsideindia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video. I recently participated in Rally Of Himalayas 2023...nd I ran a goood 550 km of off-roading from sissu to kaza and return. Mostly i keppt my feet on the pegs with all terrain tyres and not the knobby ones...while worrying that other riders will be way ahead of me. In reality, I was having a good speed and hardly i had to put my feet strangelling in dirt for no reason. Do check my Kaza POV n crash and let me know what u think about it. 🦉

  • @mikeyp9894
    @mikeyp9894 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So one thing I learned from a pro instructor was that pointing your leg out also adds much needed extra weight (from your leg) to help the front tire stick in the corner. I like both techniques and have done both but I find that foot out is far better just because of the weight up front and when in deep ruts.

  • @kylelangworthy9641
    @kylelangworthy9641 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool comparison I'm an older guy race Motocross when I was younger always was pointing leg. Got back into riding and now I'm trying to do feet on the pegs. I do believe with practice it's faster I believe you can get more traction to the rear wheel that way and in turn be able to put more power to the ground

  • @curtislee5801
    @curtislee5801 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can visually see how much smoother your lap with feet on the pegs was compared to taking your foot off. I personally like to ride with feet on the pegs as much as I can, especially off road. I just feel like I have more control over the bike and myself that way.

  • @isaacpaulsen1158
    @isaacpaulsen1158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems if you lose front or rear traction in a steep bank turn you potentially pin your inside leg if you go down, with the foot out you can push yourself back up or ditch if you have to.

  • @Lee-70ish
    @Lee-70ish ปีที่แล้ว

    Good comparison.
    Foot forward originatses from speed way .
    The old speedway riders did leg trailing but in the 60s found foot foward was way more effective for higher drifting speeds
    Scrambling(later called MotoX )took it up specially when was really muddy .
    Which is very common here in the UK and Europe.
    The only place leg trailing is still used is ice speedway

  • @bobwelch6473
    @bobwelch6473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone who was fortunate enough to see Bob Hannah race during the 70's would notice that his feet never came off the pegs

  • @writehandman2833
    @writehandman2833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look at old photos of Marty Smith and Roger DeCoster and you normally see the leg extended way out and the upper body leaning forward. This transfers a lot of weight to the front wheel for traction. Many riders today extend the leg while the body leans back. Feet on the pegs allows the upper body to lean forward as needed while keeping the legs out of harms way. And on todays tracks you see much deeper ruts than forty years ago too. Feet up lets the foot get swept back and not jammed into terra firma.

  • @masterbastard7521
    @masterbastard7521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should do a sitting/standing lap time comparison.

  • @pikkunokki
    @pikkunokki ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video and well edited but I would like to point couple things about reading the data. When analysing recorded data you should compare times and maybe min/max speeds on some section of a track. Lets say from start of a corner to start of a next corner. If you just look that map you get false conclusion because slower you go, smaller the gap seems to be even tho the gap is same 0,3sec. And also when you compare speeds @ 9:51 you get again false conclusion because feet on pegs data is couple meters ahead, which means that you had little more time to accelerate. You should compare speeds at the same spot at the track. If we look data "correctly", pointing leg has speed 28.7mph compared to 28.1mph @feet on pegs in that particular spot. :)

  • @slayer6936
    @slayer6936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am 61 been riding since i was 12 and never put my leg out due to the time I did it i jamed my knee! If ya do it all the time it is second nature you do not think about it!! When you ride with your feet on the pag you take the corner a little wider keeping your speed consistent!!

  • @brandonbloomquist3267
    @brandonbloomquist3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you traded intensity for intention on the corner exits, possibly because of how new and different this was for you. You had more focus on getting a good exit. Pair the focus with a better ability to force weight through your feet and I'm not surprised to see the speed delta.

  • @roostfezza7563
    @roostfezza7563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well its really a sitting or standing thing. You cant hang the leg out when you are standing! Euro riders have always preferred standing in turns, look at Stephan Everts or the bullet. In my case i cant stay standing for long, i am too unfit. So im not sure that feet up for me will help!

  • @wbvw0774
    @wbvw0774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At watching your vid, it looked to me that with the feet on the pegs you got less wheelspin/roost. I would call it a better drive out of a corner.
    Now I 'm thinking how the same test will turn out on a 4 stroke, where there is less wheelspin compared to a 2 stroke??
    I am feeling a lot for the feet on the pegs on my 4 stroke, except slippery situations. This vid makes it undeniable clear why feet on the pegs! Thanks for this.

    • @ridewiththeknights
      @ridewiththeknights  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I would agree that by keeping feet on the pegs you increase your traction on corner exits and decrease wheel spin. One of the advantages of eliminating a movement from the cornering process. If executed properly it can be faster.

    • @dermadizinmann6576
      @dermadizinmann6576 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ridewiththeknights an additional you are more gently with the throttle because you dont have your leg as safety when you are to aggressiv...

  • @brettfowkes9911
    @brettfowkes9911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s not new. Both are applicable depending on the conditions. Feet on the pegs is best for high speed corners unless your flat tracking. A deep berm requires you to get your leg up and out of the way plus added weight to the front wheel.

  • @sokugi8872
    @sokugi8872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff! Feet on both pegs as much as possible equates to more efficient riding overall. Racing is always a bit different t story though.
    I know that because we are stuck with a shifter on one side and rear brake on the other we r forced to be out of balance left to right when corneri g hard uphill or down etc. (Bicycle feet stay up more,we have total brake and acceleration control thru both turns) on a motorbike we either lose our ability to trailbrake while turning right or give up shifting g speed to the left, and any muscle pull/push to get that foot back on its peg requires time/energy and shouldn't upset the balance of the bike or your line, which again both require time/energy lost by the rider. Yes its all very small amounts but over time and distance and corners it does add up. It requires a different t line in most corners at speed, more like on snow or ice, bit more upright and more body movement fore/after to make up for the leg that's not swinging down to the I side and hopefully back in nice and clean.

  • @ashwinramadasan2964
    @ashwinramadasan2964 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah.. it may differs according to the situation..? when other rider is very near my arcing area can we change the legs to the situations.. can you explain how to handle such situations.. as a beginner having doubts in this video...

  • @paulhope3401
    @paulhope3401 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inside foot forward always seemed to help give me a bit more stability and confidence with the front end..
    Perhaps it could make a small difference on bikes with slightly more rear weight bias?
    ...or maybe its purely a psychological nothing. I still dont know... it just feels like it helps and any confidence given is never a bad thing.

  • @crabbiboi5528
    @crabbiboi5528 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you like that gear? I just bought the same set gonna tedt it out tomorrow. Seems to be the most minimalist comfortable pants I have ever worn.

  • @anthonypeterson3685
    @anthonypeterson3685 ปีที่แล้ว

    A video about steering stabilizer and not having one?

  • @SeanHillaker
    @SeanHillaker ปีที่แล้ว

    What is this shot on? Gopro 10?

  • @bobriley000444
    @bobriley000444 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder how physical and mental energy excursion comes into play and which one wears you out sooner

  • @throttlebuff
    @throttlebuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how you like that sherco? i dig em

  • @Synic08
    @Synic08 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say for speed, on the track, you keep your feet on.. i take my feet off and point like that on flat loose gravel, i dont know why either...? I guess i felt like i was putting weight on the front tire more?

  • @cartaun5276
    @cartaun5276 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kind of new into dirt. What is the purpose o pointing your foot out?

  • @cintroberts6614
    @cintroberts6614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't over think it. Just do what feels right but obviously get your feet on the pegs as soon as possible so you can soak up the terrain with your legs.

  • @bones6173
    @bones6173 ปีที่แล้ว

    Foot out is a comfortable feeling it's a counter balance but lose of traction like both techniques r most good

  • @thewizardoftech5075
    @thewizardoftech5075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i point my leg because even if i lose a second here or there doing it. i saves me from losing 10 seconds from an unexpected fall . my leg has popped me back up so many times . i even seen pros that almost go down and that leg saves them

  • @elijahbrown7692
    @elijahbrown7692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not new my dad taught me this in the early 90's. but some ruts are too deep to keep feet on, thats the only time to take a foot off, and if your in that deep of a rut, you should have picked a different line...

  • @bones6173
    @bones6173 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been told never put foot weight on inside of bike on turns you will slide foot on outside of bike butt off the seat or get bucked the tires are turning that is what u need to feel thats floating with the bike if it's sand I'm gonna put Any inside leg out started 1978 going on 52 age love how strong you young guys are love the video it's complicated but body English is key

  • @johnnya390
    @johnnya390 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you got the balance but most will eventually wash out. Carmichael was talking at i think redbud how much balance it takes to stay on the pegs

  • @davesmulders3931
    @davesmulders3931 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your assesment at 11:00 When both laps slow down, the gap in terms of distance will always reduce, as the gap in time stays the same, but you travel slower, so it equals less distance.
    Then when you power out of the corner, the gap will grow again in terms of distance because the speed is higher and the same time difference equals more length.
    As you reduce your speed by about a factor 3, the gap will also diminish then grow by a factor 3.
    If you want to actually compare the laps you need to look at the speeds on a perpendicular line to the track.....or, you need to look at the time difference of the two laps. Not the speed, and not the distance alone. The time difference is calculated by dividing the distance by the speed between the two laps. (m divided by m/s = s ... or ft divided by ft/s = s)

  • @spaceaddict5484
    @spaceaddict5484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks to me you have better drive out of the corners when you have feet on pegs. Although at that last very tight turn you did with feet on pegs right before the last two tables, it appeared you didn't fly into the corner as fast because you braked early knowing you couldn't take your foot off. In that scenario I think you would have been faster if you took it off. That's why I think there should be a mix of both. Compromise which turns are wide enough to stay on pegs and get big drive, and which turns you should take a foot off so you can fly into the corner faster.

  • @wouterbeckers5202
    @wouterbeckers5202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is this guy, stefan everts...who did this 30 years ago😀

  • @thecyclemedic8424
    @thecyclemedic8424 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, but I believe this technique is a four stroke specific technique. The theory behind it has everything to to with four stroke engine braking and the transfer of weight to the front end from the engine braking during deceleration. With a two stroke your weight transfer with your leg weights the front end to increase front wheel traction. Two strokes don’t have much engine braking.

  • @lyledubois8969
    @lyledubois8969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid , like that you use speed comparisons , completely disect the observed facts. Maybe if you used lines more suited for feet up , you would likely find it faster yet , and on 4 stroke with typically heavier front bias , more traction and engine braking would likely even be faster. One of the fastest local riders often can be seen standing on the bike under full power after apex , drifting both wheels from inside to out , maximizing corner speed at apex . Definitely feet up is not a technique for squaring off corners imo .

  • @eric6rock
    @eric6rock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feet on the pegs is more efficient can be applied anywhere however, there is time's when there is almost a flat track turn sometimes you need a foot out to balance but only applied in certain turns, obstacles, terrain. with feet on the pegs, elbows up, hip unlocked, standing makes for more efficiency and safety also with that technique your allowing more traction and stability for yourself and the bike. I have learned this technique way early thanks to the Likes of AJ Catanzaro, MX Factory, and Ryan Hughes. The Rider that we always think of with this technique is Eli Tomac. With his fitness combined, experience, and perfected the technique gave him the accolades he is credited to and currently in the lead for a championship.
    Feet on the pegs is a natural progression back to the roots of how we maneuver bicycles and it is a bulletproof technique.

  • @MiklaDfar
    @MiklaDfar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vid! Is that data available? Corner speed and exit speed...corner speed and exit speed. FAR more important than any speed you have going into the corner. Just watch Jett and see how incredibly fast his corner and exit speed is.

  • @Jaundyy
    @Jaundyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “new motocross technique” woods guys: am i a joke to you?😂

  • @jcrash1436
    @jcrash1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should be measuring time difference on lit rather than distance. Because as you slow down distance will shrink but the lead time will stay the same.

  • @adrenalinetube7545
    @adrenalinetube7545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like it def depends on skill level... A newbie would NOT be able to ride any rut without their leg out... I would argue keeping your turning foot on the peg would result in a faster turn but there's so many variables... Also depends on whether you're hitting the outside berm or inside rut.

  • @fjp3305
    @fjp3305 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think taking the corners with the leg out is mental: it gives you some sense of security.

  • @bsr2930
    @bsr2930 ปีที่แล้ว

    What track is this?

  • @bikersoncall
    @bikersoncall ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing as the 'lap-times' could potentially be the
    same, I think 'on the pegs' is much safer , seems to be
    a tendency with all riders to 'correct' with a little dab here
    and there, which can break an ankle, knee, or leg, especially
    at speed. I've understood the leg-out to be a means of weighting
    the front, though after seeing another video on this issue, it
    seems that lately many have a different view of why the 'leg out front'
    in turns. I like using leg out front but consciously try to avoid any dabbing,
    and like to stand at times to avoid even thinking about it. lol

  • @Yoda-em5mt
    @Yoda-em5mt ปีที่แล้ว

    Feet on the pegs for me stand up almost everywere the fastest thing about pointing leg out is how quick you will need knee surgery just ask Shane Watts how many knee rebuilds he,s had not good . You can be faster feet up i find standing works for me . Interesting vid . 👍

  • @AUSTIN_RIDES
    @AUSTIN_RIDES 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I pretty much always ride feet on the pegs but there is times where foot out is faster, really tight corners with a skinny deep rut seems to help get the bike turned faster or if the ruts are really deep like folding a foot peg deep. I think the biggest issue I see is people that are just sticking a leg out as a habit or think they are suppose to usually newer riders, compared to in this video he does it at the correct time and uses it to shift his weight, just dangling it out there really is just useless.

  • @boyborit-sinagol8486
    @boyborit-sinagol8486 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feet on pegs and standing in turns was mastered by Stephan Evertz.

  • @mryamaha221
    @mryamaha221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if you are just isolating whether or not the leg comes upon the corner… you’re not going to see much of a difference. There’s a lot more than keeping your feet on the pegs as much as possible.
    There’s also an emphasis on riding on the balls of your feet, essentially shifting your lower body further over the rear wheel, break at the hips vs knees, unlocking at the hips and avoiding butt-tuck when sitting, maintaining upper-body integrity/stability and not letting the bike throw you around, etc.
    The leg still comes up in corners, but the emphasis is really only for the minimum amount of time possible. It’s all about controlling the rear of the bike as much as possible, and that’s best when your feet are on the pegs.

  • @kerryday1792
    @kerryday1792 ปีที่แล้ว

    RON TURNER rode feet on the pegs most of the time ! So did TRIPES

  • @joracer1
    @joracer1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only in some corners, if you're not dragging a peg in a rutted 180 then you're not going fast enough. Plus you're limiting your weigh transfer by keeping feet on. A 2 lap comparison is not one. Watch fast 125 or 85 riders they carry more corner speed. True test run tight to mid figure 8's in soft ruts get you laps times for 30 laps, then you will see. Very little to no difference on open tracks, the difference comes on tight rutted tracks.

  • @basedlord88
    @basedlord88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah but the leg out looks way cooler

  • @fabulousbrad
    @fabulousbrad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that if you put your foot out in the corners it definitely throws off the balance of your bike but it also gives you a little bit more comfort as far as stability some Riders wouldn't feel as comfortable leaving their foot on the pegs if you watch some of the older professional Riders such as James Bubba Stewart or Ryan Villopoto you'll see that that some of their cornering speeds they don't take their foot off at all and they're extremely fast when I raced I always used to stick my foot out in the corner and it definitely slowed me down after I noticed that I was doing it I tried to correct myself and it definitely made a difference it is a little bit more uncomfortable because you don't have the sense of stability because you're going slow and it just feels more natural to take your foot off to stick it out try not to because it'll slow you down a little bit

  • @tbird475tjk4
    @tbird475tjk4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really feel like it was line that made a difference, I'm a leg out rider unless it's chop in the corner then stand up but I don't like the look of that leg straight locked out like that, keep them knees bent fellas

  • @clintk4691
    @clintk4691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No clue why I was recommended this video as I don't ride. Still an interesting video though! Maybe someone can add a little insight for me, coming into the video I was under impression that keeping your feet on the pegs would allow you to use your knees a bit like a shock absorber allowing you to keep your centre of mass more stable. Also sticking your leg out just seems like a good way to bust an ankle or knee if you hit a rut wrong, though I do understand how it would be beneficial at lower speeds off road to keep the bike up right at times.

    • @tajjson
      @tajjson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its indeed safer to keep both feets on the pegs. Many riders have learned this the hard way and destroyed knees and ankles…

  • @redneckracing556
    @redneckracing556 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learn if you mix the two i works best for me

  • @reedgalbraith6508
    @reedgalbraith6508 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best rider in the country rides with feet on pegs..

  • @shura4136
    @shura4136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Short answers yes it's works because it helps with balancing and when you are about to fall you kick the ground to bring yourself back up

  • @charliebrown2265
    @charliebrown2265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why are most public tracks like this one? 90% of jumps are tabletops' no rhythm sections with whoops, doubles or triples-- nothing requiring any rhythm. its like the owner told the guy over-seeing the track construction " i dont care what you do as long as people can catch some air without any skills required to go fast enough to do so"

  • @tradefortrump1357
    @tradefortrump1357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone knows that dragging your toe is fastest ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

  • @ericmiles1852
    @ericmiles1852 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason this technique is an advantage now is pretty simple. The tracks and bikes have changed. Its always been an advantage to ride feet on the pegs standing up as much as possible. I been riding since 1984 and nothings changed in that aspect.. but the tracks are way more open than what they used to be. And then the smooth arcing turn of the 4stroke has made this more prevailant.. when you had sharper turns with peg dragging ruts and the 2strokes were more cut and thrust this technique was rarely an option without getting your feet ripped off the pegs. Even when riding on your toes. I would like to thinl my knowledge matters and is good because i have raced and been riding for almost 40 years. Alot of stuff i see are not new or ground breaking. Its just changes in tracks, machines, and other changes in the sport. Not that its something thats groundbreaking and new. It reminds me of the airforks.. i new it was a bad idea. I had them on a bike in the early 80's.
    I see alot of techniques brushed aside over the years. And they are still the best. Finger on the brake, finger on the clutch at all times. Elbows up . Head over the clamps. Techniques taught by gary bailey and gary semics all the way back. They still hold true today. "FEET ON THE PEGS".. I learned the hardway. Foot dragging and ruts equal "F'd up knees".

  • @brendtoconnell6119
    @brendtoconnell6119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's two different corner turns being displayed. Both foot placements work. When you need more weight to the front wheel from loosing traction from slipping out of the groove, extending your leg out adds more weight to the front end and to prevent that loss of front end control.

  • @tx300courter4
    @tx300courter4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been riding motorcycles for 42 year total and feet on pegs is best way to control your bike with least energy output to performance and gained performance

  • @kerryday1792
    @kerryday1792 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seemed like Jeremy McGrath and Ricky Carmichael didn't stick there feet as straight out as the Old School Riders ! I wish I would have ridden feet up because I blew up my left knee and I think I could have kept racing had I used a different technique !

  • @jimbo4203
    @jimbo4203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing new here ,but ya keep your feet on the pegs as much as you can

  • @pumkinbreath
    @pumkinbreath 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ask Everts

  • @asdqwe9988
    @asdqwe9988 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you need short sector for comparison, not full lap.

    • @asdqwe9988
      @asdqwe9988 ปีที่แล้ว

      And after watching this video till the end, you have done it))

  • @christopherking2128
    @christopherking2128 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only lift a foot off the pegs in emergencys . to ensure max weight on the off side . Dirt & road bikes

  • @MAsWorld1
    @MAsWorld1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not nearly enough data, each turn could vary for many other human reasons. Leg forward puts more weight in the front end for turning traction, and easily recovery in a washout too

  • @yellowveedub
    @yellowveedub ปีที่แล้ว

    Feet on standing up, feet on pegs sitting down. Pointing toe. Imo depends on corner.

  • @skidplate1969
    @skidplate1969 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's much faster to stand in turns. Riding a husqvarna tx 300 makes it even easier

  • @nickv3085
    @nickv3085 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First slo mo why would you ever stay seated and on the pegs? If you’re staying on the pegs shouldn’t you always be standing?

  • @WarmPudgy
    @WarmPudgy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For what it's worth, I noticed you shift your body further forward while pointing your leg.

  • @franciscolinera7618
    @franciscolinera7618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bent Aberg raced with his feet on the pegs...... 1967/1978

  • @Nathan.Guizar
    @Nathan.Guizar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you do put your leg out you should be pointing your toe inward as well. 😅

  • @pauldavis509
    @pauldavis509 ปีที่แล้ว

    It works better with four strokes . Less shifting

  • @bustertaco
    @bustertaco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not "new" Ake Jonsson 'keep feet on pegs' late 60's early 70s.Not a new motocross technique.

  • @axiom671
    @axiom671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New? JMB was doing this 20 yrs ago!