Jiddu Krishnamurti on siddhis and kundalini
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He is 💯 on this from my own personal experience. People should not play with kundalini. I had this happen spontaneously without knowing what it was. It became quite torturous for years following.
Many years later the energy still moves at times. And in my mid 40s it threw me up and onto the ground knocking me out for a few seconds (witnessed). Coming to... the capacities, insights, and level of compassion was indescribable and lasted a couple weeks. BUT.... I was NOT at peace fully. Not awakened. But it was real as it gets. Seductive probably for many but dangerous.
In another talk K mentions it and treated it as garbage. But ended by saying there is this infinite energy BUT it comes when "there is no self". For me this is true. At first it was Me experiencing the energy... then it took over to where there was ONLY this energy. No sense of Me. But I don't try to hold onto or reawaken etc. because of what K said. One must be ready and not desiring of anything.
My 2 cents... great video ty.
For real? No way did u activate kundalini without consciously doing it
@@rotgutthebloated4730 many people have this happen.
A notable one is Gopi Krishna who wrote the book Kundalini. Also the use of high level psychedelics has activated this energy in people.
You're damn right on the risks of trying to awaken it without a total purity of intention.
I literally destroyed myself because I was able to experience it a lot of times but my mind played a very good trick on me to keep me trapped and this ruined my life probably forever.
You're damn right on the risks of trying to awaken it without a total purity of intention.
I literally destroyed myself because I was able to experience it a lot of times but my mind played a very good trick on me to keep me trapped and this ruined my life probably forever.
@@joefalchetto94 hang in there. I hear ya. Try to stay grounded. It can get better.
Leonardo da Vinci said " the greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions " Plato shared with us wisdom he learnt from Egypt, wisdom that was a death sentence in Greece, Rome (Christianity)...Pythagoras, Socrates and later Hypatia of Alexandria. Plato in his dialogue "The Republic " tells the parable of "The Cave " in this parable Plato starts by telling us of prisoners being held in a underground den, let us examine this den via the geometry of Bernhard Riemann and Felix Klein...Klein bottle...3rd and 4th dimensions. Plato tells us that the prisoners are bound up unable to move their heads, let us examine this bondage via the psychology of Erich Fromm...socialisation of consciousness...aware-unaware. Plato tells us that the prisoners mistake shadows for substance, let us examine this mistake via the philosophy of Thales, Hume and Kant...synthetic a priori judgement...not thing in itself. Plato tells us that one of the prisoners is released, let us examine this release via the wisdom of T Lobsang Rampa...stilling the mind and consciousness astral travel...leaving the cave/body. Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. Mathew 23 13 31
Klein bottle cave is a fascinating metaphor. And in in terms of morphogenetic development, literally true.. the center is contiguous with the periphery. “As above, so below” is more “as external, so internal”. Thank you for these illuminating insights!
Mein kya karoon is kitab ka
I dont get it
Listening to this man everytime brings peace.Everytime he talks on a topic he just opens up it fully all dimensions of it being taken care of. I got a logic from him which i cannot get anywhere He is true man of logic who wants to make you your use of intelligence not brainwashing people with heavy talks which is not even in their experience
You are helping the world by cutting this and sharing so that people learn how to drop desire without desiring.
As you can see. Every single person in chat experienced it so it is not special
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🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:02 🧘♂️ Understanding Meditation and Extra Sensory Perception
- Jiddu Krishnamurti discusses meditation and its connection to extrasensory perception.
- Mentions Duke University's experiments and Tibetan/Hindu traditions.
- Talks about certain "cities" or powers that can manifest as one delves deeper into meditation.
02:03 🌟 Dealing with Powers and Capacities in Meditation
- Krishnamurti warns about the potential dangers of getting entangled in the powers and capacities that may arise during deep meditation.
- Emphasizes the importance of treating such abilities as childish toys.
- Discusses how these powers can be used for personal benefit or exploitation.
05:02 🌌 Releasing Energy and Kundalini Awakening
- Krishnamurti explains the concept of awakening the energy known as Kundalini.
- Emphasizes the need for righteous behavior and a lack of selfishness before attempting to awaken Kundalini.
- Discusses how sleep plays a role in renewing the body's energy.
09:08 👁️ The Dangers of Gifts and Capacities
- Warns about the dangers of individuals with special gifts or capacities thinking they are superior.
- Discusses the antisocial, individualistic, and self-centered tendencies that gifted people may exhibit.
- Emphasizes the importance of being aware of the implications and dangers of having special gifts.
11:40 🐍 Kundalini and Energy Centers in the Body
- Discusses Kundalini as a form of awakening or releasing energy through various centers in the body.
- Describes the physical centers Kundalini passes through, including the solar plexus, thorax, and the top of the head.
- Differentiates between the energy of truth and the energy of reality in Kundalini.
14:13 🌍 Kundalini as a Side Issue to Truth
- Krishnamurti suggests that Kundalini is a more limited, physio-psychological energy compared to the global concept of truth.
- Acknowledges that Kundalini may be helpful but emphasizes its limitations.
- Highlights the contrast between Kundalini and the broader idea of truth.
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in the beginning where he said all energy starts/lives here - which part of the body/chakra was he referencing do you know?
@@PsychicZyaOn your mooladhara chakra.. On the base of your spine in perinium area.. Energy is abundant but dormant there
@@TheJyothy ty
About 25 years ago I had a spontaneous awakening of Kundalini. I was not trying to awaken it - it just happened after a deep realisation. Fortunately, I had no negative experiences, only the most profound bliss and love that lasted for several weeks. It is mostly dormant now apart from some occasional movement as Michael mentions.
It was not kundalini ;)
@@Oppositethink it was.
@@davidmundy5520 how you know?
@@Oppositethink How do you know? How does anyone know? Let the man share his experience 💐
Hahaha
I think the idea that "good" yogis/gurus try to communicate about the powers are that although they seem incredible, they are still part of the illusion of this world... and that the goal should be to fully awaken from the illusion... primarily, the ego. So what most "good" enlightened teachers wish for their students is for them to be free of Maya, and thus they discourage playing with powers as the powers are still within the dream field of Maya.
Excellent - Here's a verse from Bhagavad Gita
दैवी ह्येषा गुणमयी मम माया दुरत्यया |
मामेव ये प्रपद्यन्ते मायामेतां तरन्ति ते ||
Sri Krishna - "My divine energy Maya, consisting of the three modes of nature, is very difficult to overcome. But those who surrender unto Me cross over it easily."
This is unique....
it is Indeed I think
thank God it crossed my recommendations
like he said himself "we shouldn't talk about it"
... and I imagine it's hard to come by such topics coming from him
Respect love and gratitude. Pushing forward, time is now.
thank you for this upload
Thankyou for sharing this one . Have you more videos on Mr Krishnamurthy and DR David bohm ? Thanks
I haven't tried anything like this but believe there's great powers some people are capable of. I wish it would bring peace to the world.
I wouldn't know how to do this kundalini.
you may not need to 'go through all this business' but many people are going through it!
Keep in Mind_ Truth is Global. Kundalini Energy is limited. You don't need to go through kundalini to realize the truth.🕊️
OH WOW WE BELLIEVE YOU. You feel better now?
Fascinating ...many thanks.
Krishnamurti had a high degree of integrity although I do feel he was a bit timid at times. Better to err on the side of meekness though I suppose, as the greatest adepts have always exhibited.
The nature of kundlalini and the opening of the third eye is not something that should be forced. People do harm to themselves and the collective in pursuit of "specialness or personal gain". And especially if one is dark. As Jesus said, "But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness." He was not speaking of the natural eye.
Wisdom without compassion FOR ALL is not wisdom at all but witchcraft. So when the divine is awakened the fire is first to purify and burn off the dross within ONESELF. If one simply seeks arcane or occult knowledge this is not enough. Knowledge becomes wisdom when the ground is cleared, the earth is tilled and the roots can spread.
Through meditation, stilling of the mind AND WHEN ALL SENSES are stilled and as ONE, with purity of intent and compassion and love for all, it will arise naturally when one is ready.
you don't know that, all you are doing is concluding from the little knowledge you have gained by reading what other people have said, whose truth you don't know, and since you don't know it as a fact, all you are doing is belief which can only exist in ignorance and hence its simply stupid.
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another INSANE comment reaching top people are demented for my money u can all agonize to death.
don't search for kubdalini. extra senses. deal with yr mind. yrself. childshih shit.
Can you explain me,i am so
confused. Isnt the self realisation only way
to go? I mean when realization happens,
when I see through the illusion of self and
when I see that there is only pure awerness
and not seperate self, why is then this
kundalini awekaning needed, what is this
oppening chakras" "kundalini awekaning"
thing? Why someone needs that? Why should someone do that? People even say it is dangerous. I dont undertsand, it is confuing, can someone please explain is to me? Is this kundalini thing neccesary and why and why not? I mean so many people didnt ever hear about it
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It happens spontaneously but of course one wants it since it us a fully realized joyful and blissful human being and it is the essence of our being. "I came that they may have life and have it more abundantly".
Remarkable!! Where is this talk from?
Thank you for sharing 🙏
I had never heard such records of Jiddu, may i have the source of it.
maybe the links mentioned in the description?
@@gabrielr8642 Hmm, maybe…
right, he avoids such topics. But he really did confirm its existence here, need the video. If you get it please share.
@@allahkabaap6421 perhaps its in the description, it was a talk with the scientist under the name of David Bohm
Wow your on a first name basis.....
The kundalini energy when you are self realised is Shakti, The Holy Spirit which is wholly spiritual. You don’t ever consider using it for anything other than Truth, Goodness and Love.
i feel like i know what you speak about when you say Holy Spirit ... something which can't be conceived of to use it for bad ... But i have no clue what this kundalini business is ,is it similar ? is it more physical ?
Can someone explain me,iam so
confused. Isnt the self realisation only way
to go? I mean when realization happens,
when I see through the illusion of self and
when I see that there is only pure awerness
and not seperate self, why is then this
kundalini awekaning needed when
everything is already perfect, what is this
oppening chakras" "kundalini awekaning"
thing? Why someone needs that? Why should someone do that? People even say it is dangerous. I dont undertsand, it is confuing, can someone please explain is to me? Is this kundalini thing neccesary and why and why not?
Dont have name, shakti bla bla bla. Enty mind no name. Shatki bakti is bussness
Thanks for sharing the audio. Wondering if someone can post the video. I want to know where the energy is? He said here is the energy. That means he pointed but can't see it. Can someone let me know that? Thanks 🙏 with love for love by love
good comment thank God what a shit hole
i cannot really confirm of course and I'm sorry in replying to you
... a couple of days ago I've heard about this energy being stored and I cannot recall where I've heard it
... perhaps mitak Chua (is this his name?!)
i guess this is one of them synchronictities u know...
with that said. I'd bet big money he is "pointing" around or below the belly bottom.
if u ask me, it's the sexual energy.
I was just wondering too! Is the energy from a specific chakra or the Universal energy that surrounds us all?
at the base of the spine
The one foam of energys which leads to thoughts foam and perception then duality modalities itself starts people who aren't capable at these centres they practice their energies to they practice themselves in to different individual pathways in that kundalini is one way it means you're calling your energies.
You really had to go edit the audio? Its not even...
Jiddu always said that all this r psychosomatic acrobatics and nonsensical....very simple very true....
Well. K, was sometimes, an impatient character.
@@jonber9411 thank you for that precious knowledge....
@@anishbhattacharya460 Thank you for your fruitless sarcasm
@@jonber9411 again
@@jonber9411 again thank-you for your extraordinary conclusion....
Where's the full video link?
Great Great master
Thank you!!!
These enlightened masters are all alike and they are so top and we are so bottom, we will never grap what they are saying
Neurologist's study the brain all day long and yes they have learned several things about but at the same time they say we really don't understand it fully and what that says is the Brain is smarter than us and it's in us at the same time. 🤔
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Hey please share the link of discussion between jk and david
Which talk is this??
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Kundalini is a dangerous power that has to be left alone
It's harnessed sexual energy.
Wow 🙏( i)love (you) JK 🌸🌹
The ‘arc' of the covenant, like the welder's rod is the bridge between masculine and feminine, positive and negative. Only a fool would attempt to jumpstart his battery from the Mother of all batteries at the heart of creation. Disaster awaits the spiritually ambitious and power hungry occultist and therein lies protection for all of us
What do you mean by the src of the covenant
Can you please elaborate in more literal words?
@Ed O'Brien
I'm hearing about Kundalini just recently. Is it something beyond the absence of ego? For example one can experience the absence of ego during a psychedelic experience but not some unusually great energy of Kundalini.
@Ed O
Thank you for the interesting explanation. My question is still about the differences of Kundalini state and psychedelic state. In my experience of high dose psychedelics (with a lot of spiritual background) was that I experienced that ultimate insight; I could see the whole history of mankind, past and future, all the suffering... The only difference that I see with your experience was that there I didn't have that feeling of power, even though I felt being god (as the one, when there's no separation) but from "insight" point of view.
@@oliverkalali Kundalini is the life force rolled up at the base of our spine. Through meditation, pranayama, accidents or spontaneously this life force can shoot up along the spine through the head. When you're not prepared for it, it can cause Kundalini syndrome. If all goes fine, the chakra's and Nadis in your body get activated and cleansed. It's a step in your spiritual evolution.
He clearly mentioned it that it should not be mentioned, then why?
Is this really a Krishnamurti's voice not AI?
My feeling is AI because something is off by his standpoints I know from his lectures.
A video for this? ??
first rule of siddhis, you never talk about siddhis.
9:56 Consciousness is not personal, then what to be proud of? And those who take it personal are ignorant.
i would like to listen the source material of this one. somebody has it?
Whitout understanding yourself and the natural silence and vacuity of joy in the brain, people in comment should not even talk about kundalini. What you awakened it's not Kundalini.
If it's an experience, it is something like you wake up you're sick, you wake up you have good mod, you wake up you feel something new. But don't take these things for kundalini. The energy of kundalini is not an experience. It is a state of not being where there is no experiencer or experience. I live since 10 years in this, Thanks to JK. Don't you people, never question this guy, he is the only legit on this subject.
Spiritual conditioning destroys your brains. Impossible to go far if you're conditioned, which means deeply stupid. So don't deceive yourselves and others.
@Oppositethink thank you for sharing your words of wisdom, I am still feeling early on in my life spiritual journey and I appreciate hearing it is possible. I know we are individually on our own paths yet interconnected. I wish I started waking up sooner but I'm very grateful. I'm trying to imagine what this evolved state of being would feel like or not feel like, I endeavor to reverse engineer my mind and body and truly be my Spirit
@@UnicornUniverse333 An unshakable feeling of joy, fruit of understanding what is, which comes by understanding oneself.
@@UnicornUniverse333Hey, if you are seriously interested in both understanding and experiencing the ultimate reality, I would more than happy to give you a little bit help in this regard.
Which is this talk??plz full talk🙏
Send me too
Does anyone know if it is real or fake. It doesn't seem like Krishnamurthy will speak these kind of things.
I dnt know maybe it is, it is a stable pic
Which talk is this from?
Maybe it is an AI generated.
JK should have shown levitation on video since the technology was available. Now it’s just words from scriptures. This is not the best way to spread ideas- “trust me bro”
Why tf he don't let him speak?
I am regretting it now ...i can't control it therefore am lost
Can you please elaborate? What has happened to you?
Dont lie pls
100% correct.
so he admits this is real.. but in his other videos he completely denies all of this
Where is the vedio on voodoism
Kundapooni
This is AI. Not Krishnmurti!!! Welcome to sad Future
I think so. Krishnamurti, never talk like that.
Please check the description. Its original.
@@VictorPlama He is a great teacher. He knew a lot and had a great understanding of life. He showed us a easy and effective way. A simple human way to understand ourselves and the world.
He was a mystic. Do you have not read his biography? Do you not have read about his experiences? The levitation one is hard to believe though. Gotta research more about it
@@B-SharpBenchmarks Krishnamurti is turning in his grave after your comment. He was "nobody", not a mystic.
I have yet to be convinced that he is anything but a lightweight. Blavatsky and Besant both were jealous of Vivekananda, and put out pamphlets slandering him. There are numerous spiritual prodigies in India; like there are violin player prodigies in the West. It sounds like he never experienced kundalini, which is the essence of awakening. "The energy of truth is completely different from the reactive"--pretty good.
He experienced it, he talks about it in one of the video
You'd think these self-proclaimed self-realized enlightened beings would have better things to do than argue spiritual superiority in the TH-cam comments field.
@@perprerp It beats conspiracy nut theories.
@@johnd7435 I only reply to personal insults.
I have a friend wich was friend of JK. Yes,he was the real deal.
inner Pilgrimages .adi shankara says climbing kedarnath not any pilgrimage let modi go there
look adi shankara quotes in todays Toi
He who has made the pilgrimage of his own Self a pilgrimage not concerned with situation place or time which is everywhere which procures a lasting felicity and a final deliverance from all disturbance from all disturbances such a one is actionless he knoweth all things and he attaineth Eternal bliss .
nitish kumar said yesterday let us oust modi then we will make Nalanda university
he n his govt agencies big nusance in india .look china again tried to enter but IB no prior knowledge .
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I was convinced by a kundalini instructor to do kundalini exercises and it destroyed my life.
The kundalini caused all kinds of pain, side effects, loss of good sleep at night, tiredness during the day, anger, loss of memory, loss of ability to conversate, loss of friends, destruction of ALL my relationships, destruction of everything I am involved with.
How are you now?
Was half way stable for years but got much worse a couple of months ago when my friends forced me to try weed with peer pressure.
The weed gummy bear ignited the already-activated kundalini even more. I got into even worse hell.
I can’t sleep well at night and am very tired in the day time - so tired that my aura drains energy from others and nobody wants to be around me. My already-hampered conversational ability went to zero. I lost what little friends I had.
I am in an even worse dream state. Can’t perform 1/4th as well as I used to at work.
Start eating meat only with high fat and do 24 hr fast 1-3 times a month. Body will heal and the mind will rest.
@@mr.objective6936 my life is very similar to what you are describing, but I know that it's not the kundalini, if anything it is our resistance to it, to what is happening. That and the pain that we are carrying, but again we shouldn't blame the pain or how our life was, by bringing it to the surface is how we are able to deal with it, to resolve it and heal.
Parmatama ko janane ke liye jab man utsuk hota h to ussi ko kundalini awakening kahte h 😁
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@@minzs007 it's true .
Kundalini is true but your sentence is not.
Parmatama ki sakti anubhav hoti h jab kundalini ka awakening hota h .aur jab guru kirpa se saktipat hota h tab .kyonki parmtma ko anubhav wahi kundalini sakti hi krati h .sans ke bina jivan ki kalpana nhi waise hi kundalini sakti ke bina spiritual journey nhi .
@@prakritisharma8278 kundalini is just mixture of material and some other dimension it is not anywhere par on the level of truth
He n his very knwoledges are/were nothing in presence of Osho the great the Master
How can he believe on levitation!!!
there are some pretty wild stuff people can do that sounds exactly like magic, JK once said that he can read minds of other people but prefer not to.
Sound of the tree and levitation, I can't buy both.
how can you believe you know all the possibilities of nature!
@@manumaster1990 Lol. This isn't right interpretation of what I implied.
He doesn't believe, he saw it happen.