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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- I’ve heard lots of reviews and comments online about how the ROG Ally can be used as a desktop gaming PC, “just attach a mouse and keyboard and monitor and you have a gaming PC”, they say. And I’m skeptical, ya know. I know it IS a PC, but when you are sitting at a monitor with a mouse and keyboard ready to game, things that FEEL sorta okay on a tiny 7” screen that you’re playing in the bathtub might not translate to the full desktop gaming PC experience. So I wanted to know - can you use this thing as a legit desktop gaming PC?
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I just replaced my desktop with the Ally. While I had a top end pc I just don’t have the time to sit at a desk anymore with kids. The ally works good enough and the portability is amazing I can sit on my porch watch the kids and game in handheld. While I wish it had a little more punch but I’m happy and we’re trending in that direction!
If you need more frames you can get an egpu and use it on an ally and actually play 4k games with 60 plus fps obv depending on the egpu
Wat were the specs on your desktop gaming PC?
@@AliAzar203 5800X3D and a 3090 I actually just sold the Ally and bought a G14 with a 4080 which better suits my needs.
@@AliAzar203 why does tha matter for him he said he didn't have time so that's why he replaced it lol
Please tell us how was it? I wanna purchase between Desktop build and an hand held pc like Ally. I wanna know how good or bad it is
We're getting at a point where we could use something this small for both work and play :3
Only bottlenecks I can think of are storage over the years and possible issues with graphics and performance with newer titles coming out like Jedi and star field
eGPU + eHDD?
@@culo9999starfield will use much cpu performance from what i heard. egpu wont help with that
Steam deck works just fine for work and play lol
@@emanuelarriaza3710 idk how well Linux works with productivity apps and I’m sure there isn’t MS office on Linux
Thank you for making this. It's the one thing that not many people talk about or review about it well.
I have a 3080ti tower and I find myself playing more now on my ally than my gaming setup. Indie games and games like Spyro reignited trilogy is where the Ally truly shines. Also the way save games work on steam and xbox on PC makes switching between my Devices seamless. PC gaming with these handheld devices coming out is way better than the experience a console can provide.
I'm so glad you made this video I didn't even realize that we had these portable monitors. I want on Amazon and man they got all kinds and really good prices thank you so much. yeah it wasn't the OED but they did have a IPS monitor for like 70 bucks with a coupon
I really wish more content creators would make videos like this, showing the portable devices in desktop or big screen mode. It's especially true for the smaller retro emulation handhelds that have HDMI-out. Most reviews simply gloss over that functionality or completely ignore it, which is really disappointing to me.
I appreciate you saying so. I try to at least touch on it once anytime I review a device that can do this.
Yo, this is what I was looking for. Thanks! 😁
I've been building my own Gaming PC's for a while now. Once these handheld gaming pc's become powerful enough, i could see them replacing my main PC.
the ally is basically my 1650 pc which is why i want the ally its basically my pc in a switch form factor which is what makes it appealing to me
I got sober a few years ago and the switch pretty much kept me sane early on. Made me fall in love with gaming again in my 30s. Just got an ally. Super paranoid cuz of so many problems reported but im loving it so far. Switch and series s has kept me humble as i keep everything as low as possible to keep my temps DOWN and when i discovered can play mw2 maxed out at 720 p on that screen at over 100 fps at 18 w and 60c. GAME CHANGING. Nothing is perfect but now i got a pc in my hands while the kids are doing their thing or im bored at work. Whether you got a deck..a go..or a whatever. What a time to be alive.
Well said.
@@TechDweeb thank you! Loved your video. Gaming has made me find and respect (and laugh at some) so many content creators I'd never know about otherwise. Love all your stuff you make me laugh.
Both the Ally and especially the Deck are great value for a gaming PC. Then we get things like eGpu devices. Desktop feature was 80/20 reason why I purchased this.
Wow, this kinda blows my mind. I never would have guessed.
I did skip com parts so I'm not sure if you mentioned wattage settings. I use my ally like this pairing with a 15" 1440 monitor and I play Diablo IV in medium settings on around 50-60 fps. CIV 6 at around 100fps setting wattage high on manual mode.
Also, this Jsaux dock won't fully juice up the Ally at 65w. With that said, I believe you can squeeze more performance out of the Ally.
For 1080p gaming, the new RDNA based iGPU handhelds seem to give full size desktops a run for their money. Future of gaming desktops is pretty much on deathwatch I think medium term to long term.
Oh? You think this tech will replace big beefy gaming PCs with dedicated GPUs? I can see it replacing budget PCs with low end GPUs (APUs basically have at this point, let's be real), but I have a hard time picturing gamers giving up 4k ultra settings so they can play at 1080p on a mini PC or whatever.
doubt that will happen. too much compromises. if someone just has interest in low-middle end gaming sure, but there are so many more ways to use a proper pc than a handheld like this.
i think the sweet spot is building on the RoG Flow Z13 and not the Ally
All these years of 4k/60 being rammed down our necks and now everyone is happy with 27fps medium/low settings at 1080p. Its a funny old hobby is gaming.
lmao idk how you guys get such low fps lol my setting always on medium and i get 70 to 100 easily
@@coryvallad7578 Plague Tale Requiem? I bet you are.
i want it for 8-bit games 😂
Nice screen TD, you gots the best toys.
I've been debating this exact setup vs getting a laptop. Light productivity, moderate gaming high portability.
I was looking to get a laptop and an Xbox forever for the few exclusives and bought this as an impulse buy without looking much into it. And as someone who's never had PC this was amazing, I've been gaming primarily on playstation so my whole Library is on my ps5 but now I have access to steam and even game pass! And the few exclusives I was looking to get for Xbox I can play or stream it on the ally without having to fork over the cash for a laptop and an xbox. Ofc you aren't getting the best quality in some games if you're buying graphically demanding experiences but that's the sacrifice for portability but for my purposes it's great, I'm mainly buying some steam games that weren't available on console, mainly indies/ps3 era games and Xbox exclusives on game pass, the most demanding game I have is rdr2 and with some tweaks I got it too look good at 1080 running 37-47 fps in heavy areas and running 50-60 fps indoors and more smaller areas in general at 60°-65° on the 15w performance mode. anything that's too heavy for it I'll just play on PS5.
If u need nore power you can always get an egpu
For more frames etc
I'll actually use my tablet as a monitor for my steamdeck for office work. Paying extra for a monitor when I already have tablet doesn't make sense to me.
*bows*
Sensi, you taught us that adding a monitor, keyboard, and a mouse, is not a terrible stain on the device, although it appears so.
It is nice to see those principles in action. It is also nice to see something other than a $5,000 PC run games.
Thank you.
*bows*
Wow my old 2015 gaming laptop with 8 gigs gtx 980m runs shadow of the tomb raider on 1080p medium 40-47 fps & this rog is reaching close to this performance is amazing
i actually just did the same exact set up lol.
the z1 extreme finally beats out my old i5 6600k desktop and [as you can tell] by being fine with a processor from 2015...i am not the biggest "graphics" guy.
honestly it's hilarious to me that 30 fps is "bad" nowadays.
the ally is a decent price & i don't need to build a whole new rig so i'm pretty happy with it. not really going to miss the space a desktop brings and i haven't really needed a desktop for ages.
also happy with the steam deck & keeping that as well. the ally is def more of a laptop in a handheld body than a "gaming console" to me.
Yeah I totally agree with you
You are fair, sir. Thank you kindly.
Months of stress review please!! We need to know how was it during months and months of using it as a desktop
Planning to Buy please enlighten us
One thing to note is you’re not meeting the battery’s full performance potential because only the Rog docking charger will provide 60+ watts which will increase fps when using the external monitor
Huh. I thought I was in turbo because I tested it more than once, in the dock vs plugged in directly to the charger, and there was literally no difference. And you can see in the Afterburner overlay that the APU is using 30w. I should have checked in the Command center overlay :/
I have the 7 in 1 JSAUX for the HDMI & DP OUT. But I'm only hitting 30w, not the 50w it can hit 🤔
Maybe there is a tutorial video that can debloat and weed out unnecessary wimdows elements to squeeze out every drop of performance for the rog ally an windows based systems in the future??
I was planning to get one of these pc handheld but dont really like windows or pc gaming in general since it overall works when it wants too
You can charge the ROG while outputng USB-C to HDMI at the same time using that single USB-C port?
I find myself playing more indie games, so I was wondering if this would be a better upgrade than my old 8 gb laptop with a 10 year old video card. I may play games like FFXIV and Street fighter 6 from time to time as well and I'm not really interested in 4k. My current monitors from my home desktop are at 1080p.
I actually ordered a dock that support an extra hard drive.
My plan is to have games better suited for desctop gaming in the hardware dock like strategy games and play them from that one.
I've been debating on getting a steam deck or this, thanks to this review, i think i know what I'm going to get. Thanks for this!
Don't leave us hanging, which did you choose?
I had the steam deck and although you can run windows on it it's a pain in the arse and doesn't work well at all. Get either the Ally or the onexplayer 2 👍🏻
@@TechDweeb haha sorry for the late reply, but got the ROG and by the beard of Zeus....this thing slaps! Been playing Starship Troopers: Extermination and its a game changer.
Great video gave some great ideas could you tell what external hard drive you are using and also are you powering your dock with 100 watts if so where did you get the power supply thanks and keep up the great work very helpfull
Thanks! HDD was a WD_Black 4tb drive, and the dock is powered by the Ally's included charger.
@@TechDweeb And is enough for ally's most powerful mode?!!
You should try an Xreal Air with the ally. It's amazing
I would love to!
Man, have portable monitors come down in price. I have the 2021 version of this monitor from Iccocn and I paid DOUBLE that price for it. (I do love it, though). That being said, it's also amazing to have a portable computer for travelling! I took it with me and hooked it up in the hotel. BAM! A working PC that was a cinch to set up, and I could just plop it in my bag.
Hey Dweeb, I wanted to ask if you had any plans of updating your Mini UI video now that the Miyoo Mini + is out?
Also, can you update us and let us know if the Miyoo Mini + has become your new favorite thing?
Definitely! And the Mini + is my new 'daily driver', but that's because I don't want to risk carrying my Mini around because I can't replace it. I do prefer the Mini, but the Mini + is a good replacement. Plus it has Wifi and I've been really enjoying achievement hunting on it.
windows store has a forza 4 demo and it has a nice benchmark in it as well
What is the static contrast ratio? You stated the contrast ratio is 100,000:1, which sounds like the dynamic contrast ratio.
Hello Tech I’m back, can I ask a question? After I flashed the image of the miyoo cfw on my v90 can I just use my iPhone to add games to the sd card using an external adapter? Or I still need my pc?
Possibly? I'm not sure how iphones handle the file system but it's worth a try!
You're the best Tech Dweeb!
Im basic when it comes to games. I had a $300 monitor from walmart it was 144hz and i had a desktop gaming pc that had 1650 super nvida and a ryzen 5. The graphics was "ok" but all i played was overwatch and COD warzone or mw2. Those r the games i play. My question is i dont have a pc but i have $800 and still have all my components except my desktop. Should i buy this and use it as a daily desktop gaming pc? Until i save $1500 for a 3060ti ryzen 7 a year or 2 from now? Thank you!!!!
how can I get more than 144hz on this when i connect to a monitor? is it possible?
Have you ran this with the new driver???
Very nice video as always
if you have a monitor in office and home than this rog ally will be the perfect laptop replacement choice
this is all ossible with the support of windows 11
like its cheap with high performance with small in size
This thing literally shelved my nitro gaming laptop because its so easy to bring and use compare to the damn laptop its huge and cumbersome.
same here.
Earned a like just for the Steam Controller alone 😅
Hey man this monitor needs hes own power adapter or ia geting power from the Ally?
This video is really interesting. nice T.D.!!!!!!!!!!!
First! Great video btw!
Thanky!
can the ROG ally's screen be kept on and used as a 2nd monitor like this? (totally not asking for emulation purposes)
Yup!
Hi, I wonder if you had this knowledge when testing the rog on a jsaux dock, I had a concern about jsaux dock and I ask them directly. Im not going to paraphrase, just going to copy and paste their response.
"Our docking station is generally compatible with ROG Ally devices, but we cannot guarantee that using the docking station will enable the 30W turbo mode on the ROG Ally. Currently, the ROG Ally driver may prevent third-party docking stations from activating the 30W turbo mode. The ROG team is actively investigating this issue, and we need to wait for future updates from ROG Ally to address this."
"Additionally, we have also found that certain chargers with power output exceeding 100W can enable the 30W turbo mode when used with the docking station. However, the final compatibility depends on the specific charger you are using"
So, did you use a 100 watts or 100 w + charger when doing this test?
Did you had 30 w turbo enable?
I can confirm it was fulling pull 'turbo mode' watts
JSAUX 7in 1 with the factory rog 65w charger gets 30w in turbo, but I have not had it go above to the 50w. Was going to buy a 100w charger to max out the JSAUX hub and see if that helps? Also might try manually setting the limit to maximum, and to try to pull more power.
You didn’t use the official dock which would give an extra wattage mode ? But great vid
Nope, full wattage through this dock, as you can see in the on-screen overlay the GPU is pulling 40w.
I got one to dock and play loaded emulation hard drives
Hey TechDweeb, the Rog Ally comes bundled with 3 months of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, which includes Forza Horizon 5, so you can play that on your Ally 😅
Stuttering is the only issue, other than that, its a beast.
It's the PC version of Nintendo switch and I love it.
Refresh rate of the monitor? 😊
How much fps would a game like apex get at lowest settings?
9:07 that was so unfair wtf 😭😭
if you play it as a hand held, reduce the reolution to 720p, and use fsr, the thing runs amazing, u didnt mention, does that moniter have freesync or adaptive sync? because the native display on the unit does, so ( if you modify the freesync paramaters, i believe you can make freesync usable from 30 fps up ) , also were you gaming at the standard 15 watts? you never mentioned it in the video, but in docked, or in desktop mode, you should have all the tdp settings maxed, and im sure you would have seen much better performance . i get it tho, you demonstrated, as someone who just plugs it in and uses it. i dont think what you showed reflects the systems true performance tho, unless before hand you did max out the tdp's and just never said anything. it takes like 3 seconds to access the performance overlay, and max the tdp settings , its a pretty significant boost , on battery in hand held, u want a low tdp for battery life, but plugged in as a desktop, im pretty sure you were missing out on alot of extra performance capability. you can easily get 10 to 15 more fps on average, and if that display is freesync, without adjusting its ranges, as long as your 40 fps, freesync should be working, and it makes the game run like butter. you missed out on alot for a propper review, but i understand your context. in other words, if u just plug it in and use it, your missing out on alot of what it offers. i think you should make one more video, crank the tdp, use it with a freesync display , and then tell us how you feel.
This is 30w turbo mode, maxed TDP (you can see the GPU power on the overlay, and you can see that it's boosting to 35+ watts). This is the maximum performance. No the monitor wasn't freesync, and I know that the the freesync on the display of the ally is a selling point. Also this isn't a proper review, it's just a desktop gaming PC test (I did do a proper review here: th-cam.com/video/l6Xx18hIQSs/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUSdGVjaGR3ZWViIHJvZyBhbGx5).
Can you plug it in tv as the monitor? using your set up? Or are you gonna need the rog ally dock?
Yup you can. No you don't need the ROG dock, any USB-C to HDMI adapter will work.
im already subscribed :)
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what's the software you're using to see your PC proformace in the little window on ht top left of the screen?
MSI Afterburner. I made a vid about it!
th-cam.com/video/2yocf3uKqE0/w-d-xo.html
let me guess that dock wont allow turbo
u forgot on what watts the ally was on while gaming
Can it charge while dock on desktop mode?
Do u have z1 or extreme
Apex? How does it run?
(UXbox E4-18inch 1080p 120Hz Monitor Gaming For XBox Series X / S) OR (UAlly K7-2560x1440 Monitor 17.3inch HDR Gaming 144Hz IPS Display)
Plz upgrade hp8200 tower upgrade graphics card gtx 1660s and case in 320w psu
If you add the GPU accessory apparently it does really well. But then again you have 3 choices 3080, 3090, 4090
Yeah, I think the Legion go is the best value for a handheld that can transform into a pc. Bc it can use about any EGPU.
Then what is bang for the buck this days? Cause I've been planning on buying Ally and just putting it in dock mode most of the time
If you're gonna leave it docked a prebuilt with a GTX 1650 or a 1650 laptop could be found for about $100 cheaper. Or if you want to spend a bit more you could get an RTX 3050 laptop that would outperform the Ally.
just letting ya know, on fortnite, you should use "performance mode" on all low settings and see the fps then, I'd appreciate it if ya did
For the same price what PC can I get that would be better ? Please tell me recommend
Look on amazon or newegg for a prebuilt or bundle with a GTX 1650 (or better) and 16gb ram and 512gb hdd (or above). You should be able to find one for $100-$200 cheaper than the ally.
@@TechDweebthanks would it be better performing ?
Was this running on battery or was it on mains power?
Power
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If your planning to dock it you mine as well buy a external GPU.
Plug in an XG mobile and it's immediately high end
can it play roblox max settings
If it’s docked you need to turn it up to 40w on gpu power and get a lot more power
a lot of docks wont allow you to
Take it this is not the Z1 Extreme? getting over 100FPS on most games mid to high settings
am I missing the link to the rog ally?
Doh!
www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-ally-7-120hz-fhd-1080p-gaming-handheld-amd-ryzen-z1-extreme-processor-512gb-white/6542964.p?skuId=6542964
Just got mine yesterday and i can say it its p decent as a gaming pc laptop whatever i paid in all 890$ for the z1 extreme and a keyboard n mouse and hdmi and a multiport block thing all in all its p decent runs tarkov alright it aint the best buh its ok and it runs project zomboid great
bro you sound like a young Hans Moleman 🤣
Guten Tag. 👋
I wonder how the console plays Resident Evil. 😎👍
Struggles with re4 remake
Easy
I will say this, the OLED screen surely beats the bathtub by a mile...
No... Not for fucking 300 dollars. That's a damn 240hz monitor on the high end price. That thing isn't a good monitor for gaming at all.
I'm typing this with the rog ally lol but get the original DOCK so you can get the full experience the rest of the docks won't get you a good fps.
Is this your real voice or a voice mod,
You made good content but I have to turn the volume down 😔😔😔
❤
But 350 for the monitor is crazy
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It is using the rog ally battery?
Nope, plugged in
i get more than fps with used power and fan
Ok but 699,- for gaming on low settings 😶
What's with the voice?
rog ally + xg mobile 👍
your voice is osm
Hear me out... go and pair it with the ASUS ROG XG Mobile...
Hi bro
Hey!
Nah the refresh rate of the monitor is only 60hz, not for gaming! lol