Thanks for the post this vid is good at showing some of the Applications of the first section as for some of the Negative comments talk is cheap. Best stick to there keyboards and stay away from the wooden dummy keep up the good work HongKongBan
@ownage4000 There are a heap of options for recovering from "wrong bong" and Lap Sao isnt always the best one. It depends on range and feel etc etc. You cant expect anything in a real fight, the WC needs to become pure feeling and reaction. Over think it, you lose the fight. It has to become instinct. This is what Chi Sao is for AND the dummy. You can learn a lot of Chi Sao concepts from the dummy by remaining in contact with it as much as possible.
I know they were just movies but ever since I started watching ip man movies I fell in love with Wing Chun and I would love to learn it I used to be a boxer but Wing Chun really grabbed my eye
@CMAFlorida Cont. Ofcourse there are better options to recover from a wrong bong sau, like a laap sau with the bong sau hand. Yip Ching also stated that people tend to move unlike dummy's, yet he doesn't let his opponent move like people. When you made made a bong sau, you can expect that your opponent is going to hit you and not let you do a taahn sau first.
@ownage4000 That he is Ip Mans son does mean something. It means he has credibility of lineage (something very important in WC). Ive trained with David Peterson on occasion in Melbourne though my own club was in a different city but affiliated to his. His dummy (in most parts) is almost no different to this. David (and Wong) said "it doesnt matter what order you do the moves on the Dummy in, it just matters that you do them all"
1. BREAKING ACTION (Tan to INSIDE LOP and JUNG SAO behind the jong. 2. BONG SAO LEFT TRANSITIONAL MOVEMENT 3. TAN DA (tan and JA JEUNG 4. GAANG SAO (jum and GAANG. 5. QUAN SAO (Tan and Bong) and 6. TAN DA (tan and side palm) and screw in to center 7.HUEN SAO and JUM SAO and JUNG DA. Midsection hit. 🐉that’s my private lineages way of doing it.
@ownage4000 CONT. The dummy isnt only to learn recovery concepts. It is to teach correct shape and form while moving and angling around an "opponent" as well as condition the limbs for such contact. Once you can perform these moves on a hardwood dummy, the human body is like butter. I can post a vid to prove that if you like, I have my own dummy.
No, he actually wasnt taught until much later. He says this himself. Ip Man also stated many times that he teaches every student differently. That quote from WSL came from Ip Man in the first place "It doesnt matter what order you do the moves in, as long as you do them all" Im not sure why you commented to me, did you mean to reply to my comment or was it meant for someone else?
@CMAFlorida I think it would be better not to. My knowledge about the dummy is far from complete. However there is a man called David Peterson who can tell you everything about the wooden dummy form. When I made that comment I did some logic thinking and criticized every step he made. As I've stated earlier, the biggest mistake he has made is that the taahn da follows the bong. That could occur, but the taahn sau would be on the other arm.
I think he would know more about wing chun then you tbh as his dad IP MAN would have taught him everything about the dummy? and who says this is allhe knows regarding the first section of the form he may be just going over some simple applications for the media. i would think that Ip man would have taught him in detail
@arigato7788 The fact that he's Yip Man's son doesn't mean anything. He has to train hard too. Sadly, Yip Ching has missed the point that the dummy's trying to teach. The dummy is NOT meant to teach you fighting sequences, but is based on concepts that involves recovery. The biggest mistake in the video is that he treats the bong sau and taahn da as one entity instead of 2. I like to believe that the bong is a bong and the taahn da for handling a hook.
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Thanks for the post this vid is good at showing some of the Applications of the first section as for some of the Negative comments talk is cheap. Best stick to there keyboards and stay away from the wooden dummy keep up the good work HongKongBan
Thank you 😊.
Amazing skill and such power.
Rest In Peace Great master Ip Ching, wish I would have met you!
Great videos to understand better. Thank's for sharing.
Wow, so relaxed then quick power bursts, good stuff
R.i.P Ip ching 🙏🙏🙏
when was this filmed? he is hitting the dummy so hard. if i hit it that hard i think i would be crying by the first 10-20 movements.
Good job uncle....
Rip Grandmaster
@ownage4000 There are a heap of options for recovering from "wrong bong" and Lap Sao isnt always the best one. It depends on range and feel etc etc. You cant expect anything in a real fight, the WC needs to become pure feeling and reaction. Over think it, you lose the fight. It has to become instinct. This is what Chi Sao is for AND the dummy. You can learn a lot of Chi Sao concepts from the dummy by remaining in contact with it as much as possible.
I know they were just movies but ever since I started watching ip man movies I fell in love with Wing Chun and I would love to learn it I used to be a boxer but Wing Chun really grabbed my eye
HOLY CRAP! thanks!
@CMAFlorida Cont. Ofcourse there are better options to recover from a wrong bong sau, like a laap sau with the bong sau hand. Yip Ching also stated that people tend to move unlike dummy's, yet he doesn't let his opponent move like people. When you made made a bong sau, you can expect that your opponent is going to hit you and not let you do a taahn sau first.
You can see his stick is really strong
@ownage4000 That he is Ip Mans son does mean something. It means he has credibility of lineage (something very important in WC). Ive trained with David Peterson on occasion in Melbourne though my own club was in a different city but affiliated to his. His dummy (in most parts) is almost no different to this. David (and Wong) said "it doesnt matter what order you do the moves on the Dummy in, it just matters that you do them all"
Grandmaster Yip Ching wingchun martial arts association Grandmaster wingchun martial arts Yip Man son
R.I.P
1. BREAKING ACTION (Tan to INSIDE LOP and JUNG SAO behind the jong. 2. BONG SAO LEFT TRANSITIONAL MOVEMENT 3. TAN DA (tan and JA JEUNG 4. GAANG SAO (jum and GAANG. 5. QUAN SAO (Tan and Bong) and 6. TAN DA (tan and side palm) and screw in to center 7.HUEN SAO and JUM SAO and JUNG DA. Midsection hit. 🐉that’s my private lineages way of doing it.
@ownage4000 CONT.
The dummy isnt only to learn recovery concepts. It is to teach correct shape and form while moving and angling around an "opponent" as well as condition the limbs for such contact. Once you can perform these moves on a hardwood dummy, the human body is like butter. I can post a vid to prove that if you like, I have my own dummy.
@ownage4000 Maybe you can post your dummy video and enlighten us all on your mastery
Each one master has a different analysis , are right or left hand finally ?
RIP
Looks like the dummy is in pain!
Ip Ching is younger than Ip Chun.Ip Ching is probably about 70 odd?
hes 78, ip chun is 90
ip man died age 79 from cancer in 1972, a few months before bruce lee, ip man would be 121 years old now
No, he actually wasnt taught until much later. He says this himself. Ip Man also stated many times that he teaches every student differently. That quote from WSL came from Ip Man in the first place "It doesnt matter what order you do the moves in, as long as you do them all"
Im not sure why you commented to me, did you mean to reply to my comment or was it meant for someone else?
ahh, i thought so. the comment seemed confusing as a response to my comment.
Could have done without the music tho
@CMAFlorida I think it would be better not to. My knowledge about the dummy is far from complete. However there is a man called David Peterson who can tell you everything about the wooden dummy form. When I made that comment I did some logic thinking and criticized every step he made. As I've stated earlier, the biggest mistake he has made is that the taahn da follows the bong. That could occur, but the taahn sau would be on the other arm.
I think he would know more about wing chun then you tbh
as his dad IP MAN would have taught him everything about the dummy?
and who says this is allhe knows regarding the first section of the form
he may be just going over some simple applications for the media.
i would think that Ip man would have taught him in detail
ooops i wasnt suppose to comment to you actually hahah
meant for ownage
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@arigato7788 The fact that he's Yip Man's son doesn't mean anything. He has to train hard too. Sadly, Yip Ching has missed the point that the dummy's trying to teach. The dummy is NOT meant to teach you fighting sequences, but is based on concepts that involves recovery. The biggest mistake in the video is that he treats the bong sau and taahn da as one entity instead of 2. I like to believe that the bong is a bong and the taahn da for handling a hook.