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- Star Trek · The Next Generation · s04e26 · Redemption
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Star Trek · The Next Generation · s04e26 · Redemption
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‘Redemption’ Clips:
I Have Grown Weary Of Bearing This Dishonour
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I Cannot Expose Their Treachery
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Don’t Feel Bad, I Was Doing This Long Before You Were Born
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Gowron Spits In Your Face
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A Harlot’s Bed Chamber?
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Do Not Tie My Hands Now!
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You Have Manipulated The Circumstances With The Skill Of A Romulan
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Your Blood Will Paint The Way To The Future!
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What About Worf?
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You Are Worf, Son Of Mogh
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I Do Hear The Cry Of The Warrior
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‘Redemption II’ Clips:
Content To Stand By & Watch
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You Drink With Our Enemies?!
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I Understand Your Concerns, Request Denied
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Time To Spread Our Net
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We Are At War
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Why Did I Invite You Here?
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A Firm Hand, A Father Figure
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Crying For Help
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I Was Only Following Orders
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Perhaps, But Not Today
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"If we get involved openly we'll be dragging the Federation into a Klingon civil war. That's why Worf is on that ship: he has enough plot armour to turn this situation around and put Gowron where the Federation wants him."
Worf was there as a tripwire force. Albeit in this case a "force" of one man. Blow up the Bortas, Worf dies, and now the UFP has a casus belli because one of their people has been killed by the Durasites.
@@DarqeDestroyer "It's a great sacrifice, but it's one I'm willing to have you make" -Picard to Worf
Ablative plot armor.
They're probably only hitting his energized sash anyway.
Worf got involved. He made his choices as a Klingon.
Worf heard rumors there were beans on board the Bortas
And on that day, Worf thought to himself: "I wonder if that deep space station is still hiring."
DS9 wasn't DS9 yet. It was still in Cardassian control. Starfleet doesn't gain control of it until season 6 of TNG
😂
Worf: disruptors offline!
Gowron: yeah but we still have my eyeballs!
Worf: Look away now, Gowron is going to give them the Death Look
They can be quite disruptive, yes.
Klingon: They were able to raise their shields in time, minor damage only!!
Gowron: Keep firing assholes!!!!!
thanks for the laugh, needed one today
@@fivestar5897 Happy to oblige!!
Spaceballs reference? I Luv it!
You mean: “Kepping firing then, Pa’Tak!!”
Sorry sir, doing my best (◑‿◐)
As with Eugene Levy’s eyebrows, Gowron’s eyes should get separate billing.
lol. Or Emilia Clarke's eyebrows. I swear those things are alien beings sent to observe humanity from the vantage point of her face... It's amazing to me that she is able to control them when she is acting. That's an impressive skill over and above her other acting talents.
Or David Bowie's package in _Labyrinth._
When Picard stares off into the distance before he gives the command to leave, damn... that's some good acting there. You can feel Picard wanting to help his friend, but sticking to his principles...
It's subtle but so cute how much Riker loves Worf. they align as heavyweights in the series.
"Shouldn't we help him?"
"Of course, but as you well know, ships called Enterprise are extremely weak to Klingon Birds of Prey."
One ship that was badly damaged after the battle of the mutara nebula that Scotty never expected her Captain to take into combat...
@Valiant Wrestling what about NCC-1701-A? She didn't stand a chance until Excelsior arrived
This was all part of Worf's plan. He spoke with Kurn about swooping in right when Gowron was most vulnerable. He probably sabotaged the aft shields.
"What about Worf?" "Never liked him. Ensign."
Worf is really a Klingon. He is certainly more effective as a tactical officer on a Klingon cruiser than on a Starfleet ship.
It only seem that way because if Worf had suggested the manual firing option on the Enterprise Picard would have said "No." Gowron said "ghos," which is amusing because it means "make it so," a favorite saying of Picard, and also words Picard has never uttered to Worf.
He was better than Tasha Yar. What, too soon?
@@amberscion1513 I always thought Gowron's response was "of course"
As much as I'd enjoy Klingon Civil War battle scene here, wait until DS9 and you see the mass battle between the Klingon, Federation and the Dominion over there!
Gowron was cunning. Articulate. Scheming. Underhanded. Honorable. Aggressive. Wise. Fair. Merciful.
And he was a suicidally crazy bug-eyed madman.
A fitting leader for the Empire.
3:14 Somehow that bird of prey's shields still functioned while it was cloaked!!! No wonder the duras were winning the war with their advanced technology!!!!!!
Technically, shields should be usable while cloaked. It will just give their position away, hence making the cloak useless and wasting energy doing nothing. Shields drop when they go into cloak is probably an automatic function facilitated by their computer to ensure that they can cloak and conceal their emissions and energy outputs effectively. Cloaking manually probably allows for a ship to keep their shields up longer so they can slip away safely, but likely has very little room for error.
@@gerble36 So just to be clear, you're saying that the cloak can still function while the shields are online, but the emissions they output (in different, perhaps non-visible electromagnetic frequencies) negate any advantage that the cloak itself might create?
@@gerble36 The cloak is supposed to use the shield system so it seems unlikely the system and make a cloak and shield at the same time.
@@yaltschuler They *did* continue to fire and hit the cloaked ship, which does lend credence to that theory.
@@anlumo1 I am not sure, I thought the other ship was firing where they thought the ship was most likely to be! I do not think they hit the ship, if they had, the cloak would probably have failed or there would have been some damage!
I like how they reused those special FX scenes over and over! Especially the scene with the Bird of Prey flying through the flames and the closeup of the torpedo launcher firing.
And this is proof that Worf is a great tactical officer
What a boneheaded move Picard made. The Klingons were allies, the terms of the alliance bound them to act to preserve it.
It was an internal dispute not an external attack. If they entered on Gowron side in combat that would have legitimized the Duras sisters and given the Romulans an excuse to back them openly. Which could have led to open war between Romulus and the Federation which neither side wanted.
Man, TNG had some solid mix of CG, in camera, and miniature effects.
I've always liked that shot of the Enterprise reversing course.
Best shot of the whole series.
0:27
That Klingon shot was a nasty rising 4 Seamer bottom of the strike zone.
Data: "The Bortas has lost her port shields sir. It is unlikely they will withstand another hit in that quarter"
The immediate next shot: The Bortas takes at least another 4 hits to port, and not only survives this, but the hits illuminate the shields which still appear very much to be up.
Consistency, what's that?
If you divide a circular shield into 4 quarters (treating the bow as 0/360 degrees), then the fore shields would be 315-45 degrees, while the port side would be 225-315. While they were hitting portside of the bow, the attacking ships looked to be too far in front to be hitting below a 315 degree angle.
No, *their* port, not *yours!*
@@ozzy2039 I always wondered how much angle matters on photons and I'm thinking the angle of the hit matters less than the angle of approach now due to shields being spherical
Presumably Data is reporting what’s happened from the ships subspace sensor array which operates at superluminal speeds whereas the viewscreen is a purely visual device operating at light speed. Depending on range the events on the viewscreen could be 10-15 seconds removed from what’s happening on sensors. I’d say it’s reasonable to assume that a full assault like is shown on the viewscreen is what preceded the loss of the port shields.
@@ozzy2039I will never debate you on shield technology.
0:43 It seems as though the Klingon Empire uses the same contractor for their control panels. Wasn't anyone at all curious about the name of the company being Exploding Control Consoles, Inc™?
Apparently the Klingons use the same exploding consoles the Federation does.
Like in "Armageddon" from the cosmonaut (paraphrased): "Russian electronics, American electronics: They're all made in [CORRECTED] Taiwan."
Taiwan I think
@@yourstruly4817 This is how we fix things, on Klingon Battlecruiser! *beats with hyperspanner*
@@BulletMagnet83 That's why I told you "touch nothing" but you're a bunch of cowboys
@@yourstruly4817 I stand corrected!
Captain Picard: the line has to be drawn here, here, and no further!
Pretty sure that cloaking bird of prey shouldn't have had shields still up while cloaking but meh , what are you going to do .
I believe that was the old BoP. The new ones fixed that issue. It was mentioned in ST: Generation.
@@Oyamada13 it might have been one of the tng books that clarified newer cloaks could maintain shields until its fully engaged, it wasn't stated in any of the series or movies (except Nemesis but that was a unique cloak)
@@Oyamada13 that was defective plasma coils that where tied in the the ships cloaking device.
Cloaked ships in tos tng ds9, voyager couldn't raise shields or fire weapons.
Only changs bop was able to fire when cloak and Shinzon's warbird could maintain shields and fire while cloaked.
@@ValiantWrestling and Chang's Prototype in star trek 6 which could fire but had no shields
It must have been nice for Worf to be on a ship where people listen to him.
That Bird of Pray that got away was the one that destroyed the Enterprise D in Generations years later... They had torpedo's locked on the D but seen that it wasn't the right time or place....lol
All because they got shield frequencies from Geordi's visor. Sue to lack of security protocol after getting him back from his abduction...
0:21 How can you not help them, Picard???? They're just like you, after all, the way how they absorb tons of weapon fire whilst opening hailing frequencies, demanding to know why they've opened fire!!!! Don't you feel any brotherhood towards them???/
He cannot drag the federation into a klingon civil war t would go against starfleet protocol its sad but picard does the correct decision here.
It was the right move. In fact, if the Enterprise intervened it may have likely made the situation more difficult for Gowron as it reinforced the point that Federation interests were behind Gowron's motives. That may have alienated his own forces to move towards the Duras faction.
1:11 Very unstarfleet of you to ignore a distress signal, captain!!!!!1
Not at all. He is doing the very Starfleet thing, the thing that he has been trained to do. Avoid being dragged into a Klingon civil war. Picard's job is to keep the peace. He even knew the Cardies were rearming for war, but turned a blind eye to it, because his job was to keep the peace.
Worf was just happy not to be be shut down with his suggestion for once. 😅
...waitaminute, that Duras-faction Bird of Prey showed shield impacts AFTER it cloaked...
Wasn't the whole point of Yesterday's Enterprise that avoiding this kind of fight could destroy the Federation-Klingon alliance? You can't just watch the assassination of an allied leader and run.
One of the points they keep hitting in this episode is that the civil war is an internal political matter. In Yesterday's Enterprise, it was the Romulans attacking, so I could see the Federation getting involved as being as valid for them as if it was the Borg. A power attacking from without, not within.
As much as it sucks, I can see how the Prime Directive is applied more clearly here; intervening would actually count as interfering in the Klingon state. It's the same thing that Picard lectured Worf on earlier: using his power as a Starfleet officer to effect political change in the Empire.
@@fryfry377 I understand the point, but they're watching the leader of the Klingon Empire be assassinated. When you're there to witness it, it's not a purely internal matter. If French security agents watched people trying to stab the president to death and said "welp, not our problem," that would cause serious diplomatic difficulties down the road.
@@emperornortoni2871 what if it was a French diplomat who was watching instead? Security have a duty to perform, however the Enterprise is not security. They're more like a heavily armed diplomat.
@@Avenger-K Well, granted, tricky situation. Diplomats are very rarely armed with photon torpedoes though.
@@emperornortoni2871 But see, you're trying to make an analogy between some "people" stabbing the President (of the U.S. I assume) in an undefined location, and two recognized political affiliations within a nation you're allied to fighting in an internal conflict within the borders of that nation... I'd say that the Enterprise certainly can stand by and watch this happen, especially given their non-interference policy. If they DID interfere, there's no telling how deeply involved in the conflict the Federation would get, given their precedent.
When a Kligon shop cloaks its shields drop and yet that Bird of prey was completely cloaked and yet its shields was absorbing hits from Kurns ship...
Mikey dorn deserves a cookie for saying keli-cams with a straight face
Here he comes to save the day...KURN!
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0:26 Picard: _Its B-gun._
Warbird: _zzzzzz-pew_
1:00 Data: _The Bortas lost her port shield, sir. It is unlikely they will withstand another hit in that quarter._
Bortas: _(takes multiple front- and port-side shield bubble hits)_
Picard is worried helping Gowron would drag the Federation into the civial war.
Well, Gowron surely won't like the Enterprise 'chickening out' right there, despite a distress call.
But then again, without Picard he wouldn't be chancellor. Now he's gotta show he can handle the responsibility. And Gowron seems to take it that way. Would look bad to get outside help.
Worf: "No. ... Don't you see?" - Worf was very daring there with his confrontational wording. Could indicate his displeasure with Gowron's refusal to restore his name, albeit for a reason. But generally this could be seen as a habitual not-quite-respecting his chancellor-level competence but establishing his own skills and advertising them. - That is straightforward - courageous.
Also, are they telling us the attackers cannot detect whether their weapons are online or not? Or that they think just because the auto-aim is offline, they won't be using them against a sitting duck target at almost point blank range?
It's as cool as I remember!
I came first, again?
Where are you guys?
2:40.
Scene from "Yesterday's Enterprise".
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Can also be seen at 2:30
Good reuse of footage in my opinion. I think they also used it in DS9
The close-up of the torpedo firing is from the movies too, reused so many times when a Bird of Prey fires.
Riker: What About Worf?
Picard: F*k him.
tough call for the captain. but his duty was clear and the rules of engagement well defined. I'm not sure I make that call tho.
Gowron needs to get his thyroid checked asap.
Those Eyes 👀
3:24 I swore that said "Def Leppard" when i first saw it. And I'm not convinced that isn't what it is trying to resemble :)
Looks like they took a couple more hits to the port side after losing port shields...
KLIGNON VESSELS HAVE ARMOUR IN ADDITION TO SHIELDS. FEDERATION STARSHIPS DON'T PRIORITIZE COMBAT.
@@aznsbd Data said they would not withstand another hit there...
@@jonathanakehurst4489 So I guess the showrunners don't know what the difference is between port and starboard.
@@aznsbd That might be true, a mixup, or having to use canned footage and forgetting to flip is. But this shows how the attackers kept focusing on the intact shield faces. Apparently they were not content with destroying the ship, but wanted to board it. For some reason. (Maybe their tactical officer told the captain that it would be pointless to try since the Borta had suddenly energized an ablative plot armor.)
I just want to listen to them say "kellykams" over and over...
DS9 did Gowron dirty.
In the future control consoles will be made of MyPillow.
The difference between Sisko and Picard is, Sisko would have fired on their asses and came to the aid of Gowron. And dispite his help of Gowron, he still would have been able to keep the Federation out of the war. No, seriously, watch DS9, the amount of times something like this has happened to Sisko is crazy.
Sisko infiltrated because he thought there was a changeling involved and that Gowron was a changeling but it turned out to be Martok. He actually started a war with the Klingons before that when he rescued Dukat from a Klingon attack. By time we get to the assassination of Gowron, the Federation was taking desperate measures as they were on the verge of defeat.
@@ironfist7789 I'm confused are you arguing with my point or agreeing with it?
@@jessetellez3924 I don't think he would have helped Gowron because he never did in the show (on an internal matter). The changeling infiltrators were not an internal matter. By time we get to Worf's assassination, then maybe he would because they were getting desperate. So I guess I'm disagreeing until we reach the mid to end of the Dominion war.
But I agree that Sisko had more of a tendency to fire on people's asses in general.
did anyone notice the ship that attacked Gawron’s ship still had shield up after it cloaked to escape at the end?
cloaking only completly works when there is no emission from weapons, shields or other components, so the bird of prey did raised the cloak but technically they were not invisible to sensors bc of their shield.
Picard's reasoning about not answering a general distress signal is flawed. He still has a duty to not ignore an ally's distress signal. As for the aspect of non-interference, that reasoning is also flawed as at the moment it is an insurgency and he has a duty, if not a responsibility to come to an ally's aid in a time of crisis. His argument only stands up to scrutiny if it was the leader of the insurgency asking for aid and not the legitimate leader of the Empire. The Khitomer Accords are pretty much a roadmap to which side the Federation is on, the side of the legitimate ruler of the Klingon Empire. During these type of hostilities, you act in the best interests of preserving life, especially given the immediate necessity. After the fact you can follow whatever directive the Federation Council orders, but up until that time a lone ships Captain does not have the authority to decide what is in the best interests of an entire Federation. His duty is to act to preserve life against an attack.
The general distress call + the ambush nature of the attack + the fact the target of said attack is the *rightful leadership* = Picard should step in and give assistance *that one time*
If it weren't for the fact that there was someone within range to give aid, Picard may as well have attacked the ship himself.
Of course, this may be speculation, but I'm pretty sure Picard *did* know there was already a nearby ship ready to help and all the standing around is just for posterity.
@@InfernosReaper , I'm not so sure, Kurn's ship was cloaked and arrived late enough that Gowron's ship would have been destroyed, if it wasn't for Worf's manual control of the blasters that destroyed the one attacking Bird of Prey, buying them a little time. The writers on this show were usually pretty good at recognizing protocols and rules of engagement, but really messed this one up in my opinion or just got lazy in the quest for a little drama.
@@InfernosReaper The whole context is relevant, and Picard mentioned it. He didn't want it to look like Gowron was lifted in the seat by the Federation. He had already done all he can. The act of helping, despite technically legitimate, would have looked really bad.
And you see Gowron doesn't mind, because he probably also doesn't want to look like he is being pampered by the Federation. - Picard allowed those 'true klingons' to act accordingly.
This does beg the question: how would other captains have responded.
Kirk: Meh F**** em all. I hope the kill each other.
Sisko: Defend Galron at all costs.
Janeway: ????
Pike: Pop some popcorn i wanna see how this s*** turns out!
Why would the enemy ships want to board Gowron's ship? They want him dead, right? What additional value would they gain by taking him alive?
Is that Candyman?
These are like the one Kirk stole and used to get whales, right?
That was a B'rel, these are K'vorts. Basically bigger B'rel with fixed wings.
@@CaptPatrick01 So the old ones could knock seven b'rells out of the enemy, and the new ones are for k'vorting around the quadrant.
These are larger and more advanced. K'Vorts instead of B'Rels
Klingons liked keeping certain designs in service to keep the fear of that ship alive. The Bird Of Prey, while on the outside seems identical to previous versions when in fact they were rebuilt from the ground up over time. Same with the D7 ship design.
Picard dropped Worf like a clingy ex.
Interesting how throughout this battle, the birds of prey had their wings straight out to the sides in cruise mode, rather than downward in attack mode, like they should've been!!!!!!
Sometime after filming Star Trek III the wings on the model broke and they couldn't be lowered anymore. That's when they gave up on the different modes.
Also when gowron ship destroys one of the the enemy vessels it's the same scene that was used in yesterday enterprise same with the one on the view screen same scene slightly different but pretty much same scene from yesterday enterprise as well.
The 'come about' scene was also used in Season 3 episode 'The Defector' only difference is in that episode the Enterprise didn't keep going forward as they were blocked by 2 Warbirds.
frijoles
3:07 I don't get why that attacking bird of prey broke off its attack!!!!! After all, they knew it was the bortas they were attacking, and they probably more than likely knew Gowron was on board the ship, so if they'd kept attacking, and succeeded in destroying it, they would've really dealt a hefty blow to Gowron's side in the civil war, before it even really got started!!!! And if the klingon attackers got destroyed, they'd at least die thinking they'd have songs sung in their honour for their role in the civil war!!!!!
Yeah, but they're backing a treacherous faction, remember. The sisters would typically attract the worst for their cause.
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Grown-up Jake Sisko: "Yeah, whattaya want?"
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What about the Borg attack on the Wookiees?
Exploding consoles again 😂😂😂
Isn't Worf challenging Gowrons authority, Kurn and Gowron don't know how there to be treated in Ds9 😭😔😔
I'm a little confused about the Klingon ships design.
One Vor'cha class destroyer vs two Birds of Prey. The BoP are smaller, tactical fighters whereas the Vor'cha is comparable to the Federation Galaxy class. The reason the BoP had the upper hand is it was a surprise attack from cloak.
@@uncahay But they are K'Vorts, not basic Bird of Preys
@@yourstruly4817 Ahh, I didn't know that. Makes it even more believable that two could take on a Vor'cha.
Kiss Army in Space
hated that show...
To everything, Kurn, Kurn, Kurn
There is a season, Kurn, Kurn, Kurn
And a time to every purpose under Sto-Vo-Kor
"And be sure to tell the Enterprise that we have plenty of beans for them." 😆
1:36 Not really!!! You could just say you were a ship in the area, responding to a distress signal, just like the Enterprise C did!! By your logic, Captain Garrett of the Enterprise C could've ignored the distress signal she received, saying she didn't want to risk starfleet's treaty with the romulans in order to save a planet belonging to their enemies, the klingons!!!!
its a delicate situation. they're on the brink of civil war, it doesnt matter whether or not it was legitimate, the political enemies will spin it to look like foreign interference in sovereign affairs. you live in this day and age you know how it is with america's toxic nature. the safest, cleanest way to not allow them to spin this as fake news is to absolutely not engage. its a heap of straw ready to be set on fire, with even the slightest flame
Garrett responded to an attack on a civilian target. Plus the Klingons were allies and the Romulans were not
@@stars9084 --- I thought Worf said they attacked the Klingons when they were supposed to be our allies.
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@@JamesJ30t I meant the Klingons were allies of the Federation and the Romulans were not
@@StopFlaggingVideos I'd say less if the klingons were a pre-warp civilisation, and starfleet didn't want to get involved in their civil war in order to artificially shape the development of the society, but the klingons were allies, and powerful enough that their allegiance could've drastically changed the balance of power in the alpha/beta quadrants!!! I feel like if the official klingon leaders wanted help from their allies, then their allies should've given it!!!!
A Vor'cha class cruiser nearly brought down by a couple of BoPs. Gowron really did suck as a commander.
Tbh, what Worf suggests is like…super dishonorable from a Klingon pov, is it not. Tactically brilliant, but playing dead isn’t honorable, is it?
In war, victory is all that matters.
They call it shrewd battle tactic.
They have cloaking and see it as predator prowling.
"Honor" is a highly bullshit-loaded term, very malleable.
@@LordTalaxvictory is life!
Wait…
This is why Kirk is far superior to Picard. Kirk would never have left a member of the crew behind. He also would have aided Federation allies regardless of the political consequences.
Kirk was a moral officer, who did what was right.
Picard was a by-the-book officer, who followed the rules regardless of the morality of the situation.
Except when the plot said not to for Picard, like with Insurrection and a few episodes.
So dumb. No orbital defense
Captain Jean-Luc Picard Should Have Given Military Support For Leader Garon's Ship For What It's Worth !!! Afterall Gawron Won His Claim !!! This Would Have Greater Standing & Support From The Klingon Government & Gawron As Leader Then As Well !!! Just My Opinion, I Would Have If It's Me !!! Thank You 🙏!!!
THIS is Star Trek!!! So much Picard, So much Worf, So much other Beans. This IS Star Trek!!!!
Discovery SUCKS!!! All hail Lower Decks!!!!
The most overused shot in Star Trek is...