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Regarding the bike finder feature, I'm surprised Vespa didn't include beeping the horn as well as flashing the lights. I would find this particularly helpful when parking in those multi-story garages where you tend to forget the exact location you parked. A tooting horn, can be far more effective than flashing lights, especially if you're one floor off.
Totally weird. But hey... Piaggio are like that. They will still sell boatloads of GTVs, so it's a win-win for them. Imagine buying one then noticing this "little" detail later. A deal-breaker for me.
I agree with you Robot I don’t like keyless we have had keys for years it’s simple😊luckily I bought a 2022 GTS300 which was the last models with a key.
I’m not Robot but this isn’t the first time Vespa came out with a new front suspension only to return to the previous design soon. Was it 2017-18? Remains to be seen if the ‘24 or ‘25 GTS keeps the new ‘23 front end. I’d like to ride the ‘23 GTS sometime.
I wonder why they didn't incorporate the new updated fork suspension on this model ? Perhaps it was to keep the price point down and not compete with the Supertech price point.
GTV 250 here. Pretty consistent 62mpg under 55mph. Noticeably less at higher speeds. The fact is, some motorcycles are more economical on gas while offering greater performance. But I can stay comfortable in 10 degrees cooler weather. Vespa gives great wind protection.
Trying to figure out why this 2024 has 2022 front suspension ? What happened to 2023 re engineered better suspension . Its confusing. I have 2023 GTS 123 and it works well with new updated front susp.
The flyscreen is a bit too modern and reminds me of a Fly E-bike aesthetic, which I don't really like. I prefer classy Vespa curves. The screen and handlebars look great though, and the wheels look great.
Great video, again- Thanks! Sees a change, on the left side above the glove box. On earlier models, it is possible to insert a USB port on the left side - Glovebox door trim (USB). Is this still possible on the 2024 GTV model? Must have this to charge phone/GPS. Or is there a usb socket I haven't seen? Except for the one inside the glove compartment.
I just switched out the stock seat for the GTS HPE SUPERTECH 300 **PLEATED TEXTURED BLACK W/YELLOW STITCHING** 2015-2022 (1B008521) ...Fitted perfectly...I also added the fold down FA rack to which my passenger has been very appreciative of...It gives an added sense of 'I'm not going anywhere'...
Hi, one question regarding the front suspension, do you mean that this GTV doesn’t have the updated suspension design which we find in the 2023 GTS? Thanks
I wrote somewhere else on this subject. If you remember 2017-18 or maybe 19, they did the same thing to the GTS 300. Couple years with something new, then back to the old…until 2023. The GTV is a 2024. Let’s see what the 2024 GTS looks like. Hmmm
Robot, The comments don’t seem favorable to the new GTV. I’ll have to come down and see it for myself soon🤔. Matte finish shows up on a lot of bikes now. Never will “shine up” which I suppose helps hide the dust. Black vs chrome and factory DULL finish…hmm..I’d never clean it. But i never ride in bad weather. Bottom line is I think prospects would be kinder to all Vespas if priced about $2,000 less.
Hi Robot - is there any issue with 'straight piping' a HPE Vespa? In other words, putting an exhaust on with the cat converter removed? Will it damage the engine or anything?
So you spend $10,000 for a 300cc quiet, clean single and turn it into gross polluter that sounds like something made by Briggs&Stratton. Why is this a good idea? Not being disparaging here. Genuine question.
@@Diap842IV I like the deeper sound and the there is a slight increase in performance. There is some novelty to it also, having the scoot roar like a Harley. Sometimes things are just fun! But I agree, stock exhaust is nice and quiet and better suits the daily commute.
Great detailed review Robot ,of course i wouldn't buy mainly because i want a scooter not a PlayStation...too many electronics and that ridiculous Electrical key fob . Give us a simple key and analog speedo and get rid of all the electrical junk reduce the price accordingly by 2000 and im sure Vespa (piaggio)would sell lots of Gts300s .not so many of these though 🤔
Hi Robot, great review as always but, considering the bike finder..."There are too many on the line, I can't find my Vespa"... really? How about to just check the number plates?...I think, this feature is ridiculous...and finally, someone in Piaggio group, if anyone listens, this motor should have at least 28-30 hpe's.... (Previous owner of GT200L, GTS250ie and the MY19 HPE).
The same with most bikes. No. Unless you stay on top with maintenance cleaning or some acf50 helps prevent it. Also washing a motorcycle after a ride in salt will help prevent it.
I have a Cousin in Spain that owns a auto repair shop , he also sells used cars 2-5,000 euros max and is having truble selling those. Average salary is 10,000 euros per year.. IN EUROPE VESPA are status symbols. Just an observation 🍷
Although USA salaries average higher, Vespas still seem to be fashion statements. Not hard to find older ones for sale that were barely ridden. There’s a cute, friendly naïveté to them. But, a newbie might ride a few times around the block to discover it’s really a “motorcycle” after all, then put them away for years. Reminds me of Honda CT90’s.
No kidding. Thought of getting a new one three years ago but bought an ‘07 instead for less than 1/3 and it’s just as good for my needs. Hard to justify trading up.
@@wileecoyote5749 egg prices go up and down. The Vespa price just keeps going up and gets to a point where it's ok the ridiculous doesn't make sense side
That's what I was hoping he was going to address when he first started talking about the headlight. Which location is better to see with while riding and to be seen by oncoming traffic?
So, what’s the rest of the story here? Shipping damage?, Used? When I was shopping a few years ago there was a brand new 2018 GTS 300 for $4,000 a competitor had bought at auction. It was one model year behind, and major dents in the left side body panel. It was ok otherwise but to get a new scooter for four grand, I’d have to live with it as is or spend big money at a body shop. I’d have a low miles bike with body and paint redone, perhaps even a salvage title?
@@sagepirotess6312That makes sense. Context is everything. For some time I’ve wished for commenters to include their general location. 10 comments on a channel like this could be from ten countries with different laws and circumstances. For instance, would I be correct saying a Vespa sold new in a Viet Nam doesn’t meet Euro5 emissions? There may be a number of reasons why it can be sold for less in different markets. And by the way, I’m in Robot’s San Diego area…for context😌
@@Diap842IV my first vespa was California usa. I am American from California. But moved to Asia 2008, all over. Pretty sure vn doesn't have USA or eu standards on emissions and that's fine. The one expensive vespa I seen is the electric one like 7 or 8k.
Has this been a problem? My 2007 has the spring stand. I’ve grown to appreciate it. Get on, straighten up, listen for the clang, start and go. I park on level or facing uphill. So far no issues.
@@bfarm44 I know it’s possible and we hear of this a lot but without context of placement or riding experience. In 60 years of riding I only had a bike roll forward off its side stand once…it was facing slightly downhill. I opened the top box, with unintended forward pressure. My fault. Properly parked level or facing uphill it would seem hard to happen unless pushed.
@@Diap842IVwe’ve repaired a few in our shop Vespas do not have a traditional trans you could leave in gear one fell over on its own that I’m aware of but the others were knocked over. If it were “in gear” or had a dead man brake it wouldn’t happen.
And why hasn’t anyone flogged the engineer who moved the oil check/fill over the exhaust pipe I feel like someone should have their fingers singed weekly for that aberration just an ignorant engineering choice
I simply hate the headlight. Horrible placement. I know, I know. One might say a classic from the past. However, I will say that there was a reason they got rid of it there in the first place.
What is the reason it was down there originally? I have a 2007. Seemed weird at first but I’m used to it. I like the chrome motorcycle type handlebars with mechanical instrumentation too. Hopefully the new speedometer is accurate. The mechanical needle sits on the peg at 5mph. Checked with iPhone GPS and it shows consistently 5mph faster than actual speed.
They look good!! But new Vespa is rubber Belt drive that last Only few thousand km. Old Vespa were chen drive. If you want to hang around garage all time then you buy it. It's Not worth sheet. No video was informing you about that.
hmmmm, around $10,000 out the door vespa, i be think motorcycle or rethink of something else. it is a cute 2 wheeler but it lacking in Ca. roads. a big "10" block to block around town but no way on the hwy of Ca., worst at night road kill.
These accent colors they are using is just horrible, Orange, fluorescent green. Why can't Vespa have a custom spray booth, you order the color you want, they paint it and then put it back on the assembly line to be finished. So they charge a small extra fee, I would think their sales would increase because the only thing stopping me from buying a Vespa are these horrid colors.
I know I am in the minority, but I hate the flyscreen. It reminds me of an old Bajaj headset or something. It just looks really ugly to me. Again, I am sure I'm in the minority.
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That mirror shot with the zoom is what sold me.
I love how the new GTV looks! A stunning scooter! Especially the display!
Thanks again for awesome videos Mr. Robot 🤖
That’s a good looking Vespa.
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Very surprised by the lack of turn signal pods. It is nice to see the European style turn signals. Great video! Thanks.
Thanks Robot, very good presentation.
Really great overview piece. Thanks for posting!
Thank you for the comprehensive video, I've been drawn to the styling of the GTV, and it's nice to have this as a reference.
I wish Vespa would do some retro vespers like the old PX and PE , I would seriously be interested in that.
Really would be very happy to add this to the stable has been one of my favorite designs since the green one came out.
Regarding the bike finder feature, I'm surprised Vespa didn't include beeping the horn as well as flashing the lights. I would find this particularly helpful when parking in those multi-story garages where you tend to forget the exact location you parked. A tooting horn, can be far more effective than flashing lights, especially if you're one floor off.
Brilliant Robot 🤖!
Awesome!
Great walkthrough - impressive amount of facts this man has (hmmm….I sound like Yoda! 😏)
Great review Robot. Thank you!
Robot u r as cool as it gets
Wait, I think we just glossed over one very important subject; which is why the heck did they go back to the old (2022) front suspension?!?!
Totally weird. But hey... Piaggio are like that. They will still sell boatloads of GTVs, so it's a win-win for them. Imagine buying one then noticing this "little" detail later. A deal-breaker for me.
I agree with you Robot I don’t like keyless we have had keys for years it’s simple😊luckily I bought a 2022 GTS300 which was the last models with a key.
Hi robot, id love to hear your comments on GTV 2023 front suspension vs the new suspension on GTS 2023. Thanks
I’m not Robot but this isn’t the first time Vespa came out with a new front suspension only to return to the previous design soon. Was it 2017-18? Remains to be seen if the ‘24 or ‘25 GTS keeps the new ‘23 front end. I’d like to ride the ‘23 GTS sometime.
Headlight looks all wrong down there. Plus doesnt it cause the light to bounce like crazy?
Also I think the color is classic matte Puke!
Loving it
Ciao ROBOT good video. ITALY
That's the coolest GTV to date. On the bug screen, why is it vented on one side? Is there a function for those three vents or just style?
Isn’t ‘everything’ about a Vespa just for style? 😉
Great detailed review Robot! Now I'm really interested in getting the black GTV 👍😃
I wonder why they didn't incorporate the new updated fork suspension on this model ? Perhaps it was to keep the price point down and not compete with the Supertech price point.
Or they had some old set up lying around they wanted get rid of and still get good revenue....
23 GTS300 SS rider, shame about the brakes and front fork set up. Looks great though.
Yup. I wonder why they don’t put the 2023 GTS new front suspension design onto the 2023 GTV, but putting the old one on it
@@JLD4time will tell. They retrograded once before but did anyone know why?
Love it
I would have expected better mpg. My BMW r1200 gets 50mpg (US). Perhaps it improves once it's run in?
GTV 250 here. Pretty consistent 62mpg under 55mph. Noticeably less at higher speeds. The fact is, some motorcycles are more economical on gas while offering greater performance. But I can stay comfortable in 10 degrees cooler weather. Vespa gives great wind protection.
Trying to figure out why this 2024 has 2022 front suspension ? What happened to 2023 re engineered better suspension . Its confusing. I have 2023 GTS 123 and it works well with new updated front susp.
Very nice.
Oh that's sick
ITS HORRILE MATE PX FOR ME EVERY TIME
The flyscreen is a bit too modern and reminds me of a Fly E-bike aesthetic, which I don't really like. I prefer classy Vespa curves. The screen and handlebars look great though, and the wheels look great.
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Mine is Awesome. I pulled the orange stickers off.
Any special technique to pull the stickers off? I’m worried about leaving sicker marks
@@JLD4use a heat gun. They come off then just wash where they've been
Those stickers are effin ugly ! Like somebody woke up and said put an orange strip somewere
Wait so which model do I want if I want the updated front suspension design?
Great video, again- Thanks! Sees a change, on the left side above the glove box. On earlier models, it is possible to insert a USB port on the left side - Glovebox door trim (USB). Is this still possible on the 2024 GTV model? Must have this to charge phone/GPS. Or is there a usb socket I haven't seen? Except for the one inside the glove compartment.
What seat would you recommend for carrying a passenger
I just switched out the stock seat for the GTS HPE SUPERTECH 300
**PLEATED TEXTURED BLACK W/YELLOW STITCHING** 2015-2022 (1B008521) ...Fitted perfectly...I also added the fold down FA rack to which my passenger has been very appreciative of...It gives an added sense of 'I'm not going anywhere'...
Hey Mr. Robot, i really like your videos! Can you please tell how to get rid off the service wrench - how to reset the service icon? Thanks!!
figured it out 👍🏻
Hi, one question regarding the front suspension, do you mean that this GTV doesn’t have the updated suspension design which we find in the 2023 GTS? Thanks
Correct
That’s a very sad news then . Can’t understand why Vespa would do that to the GTV . Putting old parts on it
I wrote somewhere else on this subject. If you remember 2017-18 or maybe 19, they did the same thing to the GTS 300. Couple years with something new, then back to the old…until 2023.
The GTV is a 2024. Let’s see what the 2024 GTS looks like. Hmmm
Robot, The comments don’t seem favorable to the new GTV. I’ll have to come down and see it for myself soon🤔. Matte finish shows up on a lot of bikes now. Never will “shine up” which I suppose helps hide the dust. Black vs chrome and factory DULL finish…hmm..I’d never clean it. But i never ride in bad weather. Bottom line is I think prospects would be kinder to all Vespas if priced about $2,000 less.
Hey, what's that mat you put the center stand on? .. I need one to protect my granite Garage floor.
Get a rubber mat at any Home Depot
Will this export to the Philippines let me know thanks
In some European countries was already available 2023.
So we get a new gtv lacking the new suspension and brake..awesone
Hi Robot. Great, very helpful videos. On this '24 GTV, do you know if the clock can be placed in AM/PM mode, or is it only military time? Thanks.
Yes, it can be changed to am/pm mode.
Hi Robot - is there any issue with 'straight piping' a HPE Vespa? In other words, putting an exhaust on with the cat converter removed? Will it damage the engine or anything?
So you spend $10,000 for a 300cc quiet, clean single and turn it into gross polluter that sounds like something made by Briggs&Stratton. Why is this a good idea? Not being disparaging here. Genuine question.
@@Diap842IVStraight-piping it should give it a little boost in performance
@@Diap842IV I like the deeper sound and the there is a slight increase in performance. There is some novelty to it also, having the scoot roar like a Harley. Sometimes things are just fun! But I agree, stock exhaust is nice and quiet and better suits the daily commute.
@Diap842IV it's to annoy the green environment folk who want everything quiet and boring ...
It'll be fine. Just upgrade the air filter. Mine runs lean but since upgrading the filter has made it run better.
Just got my GTV, is it normal if the ABS lights blinking.. only have 129 km on it? Assistance is greatly appreciated..
Great detailed review Robot ,of course i wouldn't buy mainly because i want a scooter not a PlayStation...too many electronics and that ridiculous Electrical key fob . Give us a simple key and analog speedo and get rid of all the electrical junk reduce the price accordingly by 2000 and im sure Vespa (piaggio)would sell lots of Gts300s .not so many of these though 🤔
Hi Robot, great review as always but, considering the bike finder..."There are too many on the line, I can't find my Vespa"... really? How about to just check the number plates?...I think, this feature is ridiculous...and finally, someone in Piaggio group, if anyone listens, this motor should have at least 28-30 hpe's....
(Previous owner of GT200L, GTS250ie and the MY19 HPE).
Have they addressed the rust issues. It’s a deal breaker for me if not.
The same with most bikes. No. Unless you stay on top with maintenance cleaning or some acf50 helps prevent it. Also washing a motorcycle after a ride in salt will help prevent it.
Yeah,don't ride when salt on road
I can see water getting in those vents and rusting it out.
Please,How to turn off and on ASR?
I have a Cousin in Spain that owns a auto repair shop , he also sells used cars 2-5,000 euros max and is having truble selling those. Average salary is 10,000 euros per year.. IN EUROPE VESPA are status symbols. Just an observation 🍷
Although USA salaries average higher, Vespas still seem to be fashion statements. Not hard to find older ones for sale that were barely ridden. There’s a cute, friendly naïveté to them. But, a newbie might ride a few times around the block to discover it’s really a “motorcycle” after all, then put them away for years. Reminds me of Honda CT90’s.
Is it possible to remove the orange stripes?
Thank you in advance
Paint them black
Does the replacement headlight trim with the visor that’s currently available fit this year model as well?
I got a 2023 super and the brake levers are the only silver item?? 😢
Man these are getting too expensive
No kidding. Thought of getting a new one three years ago but bought an ‘07 instead for less than 1/3 and it’s just as good for my needs. Hard to justify trading up.
So is dozen eggs
@@wileecoyote5749 egg prices go up and down. The Vespa price just keeps going up and gets to a point where it's ok the ridiculous doesn't make sense side
Is the low front head light a safety issue?
Thank you
No. I have a '23 300 HPE2 and the higher headlight is useless at night. The light being that low on front fender lights up the road
That's what I was hoping he was going to address when he first started talking about the headlight. Which location is better to see with while riding and to be seen by oncoming traffic?
Does the seat can be swap to accommodate a second rider?
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I personally think the light on the fender thing is ugly ….
Agree, but that’s its main retro feature referring to the old models, alongside the stripped-down handlebars. I prefer the GTS models anytime.
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8400 usd to 10k? I bought it 2 montha ago the 2023 for 3500. Usd
So, what’s the rest of the story here? Shipping damage?, Used? When I was shopping a few years ago there was a brand new 2018 GTS 300 for $4,000 a competitor had bought at auction. It was one model year behind, and major dents in the left side body panel. It was ok otherwise but to get a new scooter for four grand, I’d have to live with it as is or spend big money at a body shop. I’d have a low miles bike with body and paint redone, perhaps even a salvage title?
@@Diap842IV no real story, just the average price for vespas in Vietnam. Yes even new.
@@sagepirotess6312That makes sense. Context is everything. For some time I’ve wished for commenters to include their general location. 10 comments on a channel like this could be from ten countries with different laws and circumstances. For instance, would I be correct saying a Vespa sold new in a Viet Nam doesn’t meet Euro5 emissions? There may be a number of reasons why it can be sold for less in different markets. And by the way, I’m in Robot’s San Diego area…for context😌
@@Diap842IV my first vespa was California usa. I am American from California. But moved to Asia 2008, all over. Pretty sure vn doesn't have USA or eu standards on emissions and that's fine. The one expensive vespa I seen is the electric one like 7 or 8k.
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And why hasn’t Vespa integrated a dead man brake cable for the side stand so they can’t roll and fall over. First thing I remove is that side stand
Has this been a problem? My 2007 has the spring stand. I’ve grown to appreciate it. Get on, straighten up, listen for the clang, start and go. I park on level or facing uphill. So far no issues.
@@Diap842IVthey can easily be knocked over or fall over and it makes a hell of a dent in the left rear side cover. Doesn’t take much at all.
@@bfarm44
I know it’s possible and we hear of this a lot but without context of placement or riding experience. In 60 years of riding I only had a bike roll forward off its side stand once…it was facing slightly downhill. I opened the top box, with unintended forward pressure. My fault.
Properly parked level or facing uphill it would seem hard to happen unless pushed.
@@Diap842IVwe’ve repaired a few in our shop Vespas do not have a traditional trans you could leave in gear one fell over on its own that I’m aware of but the others were knocked over. If it were “in gear” or had a dead man brake it wouldn’t happen.
And why hasn’t anyone flogged the engineer who moved the oil check/fill over the exhaust pipe I feel like someone should have their fingers singed weekly for that aberration just an ignorant engineering choice
Even though Vespa is the best scooter out there, the headlight on the fender isn't my favorite part of the design.
It's actually better than the headlight on handlebar
Well, so long as there's more than a candle in front of me I feel OK!
Why is it every scooter review they talk about vertically challenged people but never how taller riders fit?
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I don’t like it that much , my 2011 have a more sophisticated style .
Who was designer
Small mistake but effect on sales
Robot .. why are you called, 'Robot'?
Don’t like the paint and HATE the headlight on the fender.
Matt colours and black trims are terrible on a classic style scooters
Why they call you robot?
Looks like a step backwards.
I simply hate the headlight. Horrible placement. I know, I know. One might say a classic from the past. However, I will say that there was a reason they got rid of it there in the first place.
What is the reason it was down there originally? I have a 2007. Seemed weird at first but I’m used to it. I like the chrome motorcycle type handlebars with mechanical instrumentation too. Hopefully the new speedometer is accurate. The mechanical needle sits on the peg at 5mph. Checked with iPhone GPS and it shows consistently 5mph faster than actual speed.
Believe me,it's better there than on handlebar.
@@wileecoyote5749
I’ve never had another scooter to compare but the lighting on the fender does work quite well.!
Why does Robot call this the 2024 model when the video was made in 2023? Can he time travel?
You do realize new models come out the year before (few months) right?
They look good!! But new Vespa is rubber Belt drive that last Only few thousand km. Old Vespa were chen drive. If you want to hang around garage all time then you buy it. It's Not worth sheet. No video was informing you about that.
Small Honda chain will need changing way before the belts. I’m just going to adjust mine and reckon the Vespa belt will last 3-4 times longer…
The matte paint makes the Vespa look like a plastic toy. I don't like it.
I wholeheartedly agree
Agree completely.
Modern vespas look more and more like plastic, and this matte paint worsens it.
I also agree but it seems like we're seeing more and more of it, even automobile manufacturers are using it more often. To each their own, I guess.
@@solcastro9180plastic at the cost of titanium
It is a plastic toy 😂.
hmmmm, around $10,000 out the door vespa, i be think motorcycle or rethink of something else. it is a cute 2 wheeler but it lacking in Ca. roads. a big "10" block to block around town but no way on the hwy of Ca., worst at night road kill.
This GTV seem to be a very ugly duck. Describing this colour as nice seem to be really odd. It us just ugly! Just my opinion 🤓
The headlight on the mudguard looks stupid ,ugly looking scooter
The heck? Where’s the windshield? Ugly as heck compared go the old one.
Windshields are additional. None come with one
Whoever thought beige is a good color should be fired...
To me the green is best one. But yeah,their color choices are ehh at best
Reminds me of 70s interior design where beige and orange were the thing
They should have better color match...no chrome... More fancy dark colors. Brown red blue matt black purple...this "color" is horrible.
These accent colors they are using is just horrible, Orange, fluorescent green.
Why can't Vespa have a custom spray booth, you order the color you want, they paint it and then put it back on the assembly line to be finished. So they charge a small extra fee, I would think their sales would increase because the only thing stopping me from buying a Vespa are these horrid colors.
It looks like the light fell off bro. No, no, it don't look right.
You could see they don't know what else to do with it.
Vespa keeps trying to re define themselves
I know I am in the minority, but I hate the flyscreen. It reminds me of an old Bajaj headset or something. It just looks really ugly to me. Again, I am sure I'm in the minority.
Headlight on fender. New, but from the looks of it…quite ugly.
bum seat for 2
headlight fender is ugly
That has to be the ugliest Vespa ever. The Yacht Club Vespa is my favorite
I agree…the white/blue trim appealed to me. I was headed that way in 2019 before I decided to get a used GTV for 1/3 $.
Looks weird
HPE2? What it means? Nothing about engine..
Awful
Ugly scooter. 10k. Please