Wheel Of Time || 5 Things You Didn’t Know
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- The wheel of time is one of the most expansive fantasy series in existence. I dug through a lot of articles online to find 5 things you (MIGHT) not know. ENJOY!
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Rhys alThor has his work cut out for him going against Sa’Khan!
Haven't watched the video yet but if one of these facts isn't that tar valon is shaped like a vulva I'm gonna flip
@@henryc6632 Boy do I have news for you...
I know you go all in on the Star Trek thing, but my head canon is that Sa'Khan is actually a reborn Shere Khan and there's nothing you can do about it.
It's probably pronounced Reece , like the Welsh name ?
@@fearghalburke6104 it is the Welsh name.
WOT and WAP in one sentence gives me a mixture of joy and fear.
But mostly fear
WAP is a better song.
"Sorry, we cannot play "Baby it's cold outside" because it's sexist, Anywhere here's Wet Ass Pussy by someone who admitted to drugging and stealing from men"
Wet Ass Time, Wheel of Pussy
Both sound very uncomfortable but also intriguing
@@block4562 only one sounds uncomfortable, and that only depends what you're into
Fun fact about Dannil Lewin: In AMOL we see him pondering about how different his life would've been if he'd joined the Emond's Field Five. Brandon learned of Dannil's original arc from Jordan's notes and this was his subtle nod to what could have been
Is this a spoiler to AMOL? i havent got there yet.
@@THX-bz8bi Depends on how strict your definition of a spoiler is. This easter egg is completely inconsequential to the plot or any character's arc or development, so personally I don't think of it as a spoiler
It was a good scene, showing how an outsider could both want and not want to be in the Ta'verens' position. Noting that while they are wild and amazing and awesome... the shit they had to go through to harden themselves from young boys into these legends wasn't something anyone should want to go through. Fantastic dual purpose scene of giving you perspective and also honoring Dannil's original character before Robert Jordan changed it.
@@THX-bz8bi no, it isn't. Unless knowing Dannil lives is a spoiler. I don't think he is mentioned again. The line is specifically meant to reference Dannil not making the cut, so it's more of an easter egg for the sake of a neat reference and not a plot point.
The real juicy tidbits in the comments as always :)
These just became the only 5 things I know about Wheel of Time.
Here's a few more. It has super powerful magic, but based on rules. The books get a bit too slow and complicated later on. But it then has one hell of a finale.
Remedy that. You won't be disappointed... at least for a few months.
I've to reread them all about once a year. It isn't really based on rules, though. There is a lot of
"Somehow, he (insert thing that saved everyone)"
There are a few books that I read because its like watching an awesome movie scene. Chaos Rising, Winter's Heart, Fires of Heaven, and the last 3 (mainly the first of them) which are the equivalent of watching Neo get shot, die, then wreck the agents after seeing in code.
@@CNNBlackmailSupport you re read them once a year? Damn dude how fast are you?
@@seanassociateproductions1691 I don't sleep unless I read until I pass out, so I do an hour or so a night. It isn't that tough with 7x56 hours and then whatever at lunch or on days off and such.
Bringing Dannil along, building him up, and then killing him of at the eye of the world would really have raised the stakes from book one. Giving the feeling that, "shit! Anyone can die here"
Ahh I love that idea
But then the rest of the series would need to live up to that, otherwise it would just be a cheap trick.
I think the introduction of Shara at the end still makes more sense than leaving them out entirely. It’s a massive land area with tons of potential channelers, so it’s silly to think the being trying to destroy the world wouldn’t pay any attention to such a vast resource.
Started the series a couple months back because of you and I’m nearly through with book 13. Thanks bro!
I'm right there also. 🤯😱 chapter 33. Crazy stuff...
Geeze thats fast! Back in my heyday I couldn't even go through the audiobooks that fast.
Took me good 14 months to read it all :D
@@Dogbehu I started on 20th of February and now I'm finishing book 13. Probably done by new year
Your threats of spoilers do not scare me! For I have finally finished the Wheel of Time!!!
Congratulations, how long did it take?
Bryan Wegner I read the first 3 books the summer of 2019, then took a break because of work. With the pandemic, I was really able to dive into reading. I read the remaining 12 Wheel of Time books in about 6 months, after which I started and have gotten though quite a few Cosmere Books and other series’ as well.
@@172Mojohero did you pick up the latest stormlight archive book
Christopher Yoder Yes I did, beautiful book! I am making my way through the series currently! Will get to Rhythm this month, I am very excited!
I’m only on book 1 but it’s all good I’m likely to forget any spoilers i hear 😂😂
I think Rhys is pronounced "Reece" but could be wrong
It is, more or less. It's Welsh, so the pronunciation will be different, but it's better than Daniel's attempt.
Lol there a professional MLB player named Rhys Hoskins that's the only reason I said that
@@michaelpantalone171 I grew up in Wales, so I knew a number of people named Rhys lol.
I'm just happy Jordan didn't include much in the way of Welsh lettering, or Daniel would have been really in trouble. "Ch" and "ll" are fun to watch people try and pronounce.
@@CantStopTheMadness thats awesome. I spent 5 weeks in the UK a little over a year ago. Loved Wales. Went to Cardiff, Newport, Caerphilly, and another place I can't remember. Seriously can't wait to go back
Was gonna say this
Imagine Nynaeve trying to heal that original gentling. Talk about a tug!
This came out at perfect timing! I'm about 200 pages into Eye of the World, and REALLY enjoying It. Wish me luck with this massive beast of a series.
I’m about halfway through The Shadow Rising, and I am completely hooked
yo waddup me too
BE WARNED! Some people give up around book 9 - 10 (due to some plot lines stretching out too long) but they are definitely worth it when you start hitting books 11-14. Brandon Sanderson did an awesome job finishing the series.
The series does get a bit long winded for a couple books, then it's all awesome. But even the slow books have some awesome stuff happen. Sometimes in my rereads, it goes to some side characters, and I'm annoyed; trying to figure out who these people are, and wondering if I really should care.
I found Crown or swords to Crossroads of Twilight tough reading, but mainly because the narrative shifts to some bullshit right when the one you are reading (that WAS the bullshit 200 pages ago) gets good.
My favorite scenes from that entire section are of Perrin going HAM for Faile, which isn't a spoiler so much as a character trait.
Wtf im exactly halfway as of today
I actually always assumed Seanchan was massive, to the point where when I finally saw the map for it my reaction was more of a "huh, it's smaller than I imagined." Also, despite being a fan for 25+ years, you actually got me on a few of these facts, great job and thanks for the info!
In an old interview with Robert Jordan he was once asked why Rand gets 3 to have partners. Jordan's response was "if I a simple author can date two women, then the savior of the world can have three"
Ew.
awesome answer
Have you ever looked at the influence of the Arthurian legends on WOT?
Main protagonist/hero - Rand Al’Thor (Arthur)
Sword of power - Callandor (Excalibur)
Wise wizard - Moraine (Merlin)
Lan (Lancelot)
Egwene Al’vere (Guinevere)
Nynaeve (Nimue)
Caemlyn (Camelot)
Gawyn (Gawain)
Galad (Galahad) Damodred (Mordred)
Gareth Bryne (Sir Gareth)
Artur Paendrag (Uther Pendragon)
Tar Valon (Avalon)
Rand drawing callandor has many similarities to the sword in the stone.
The story of Sir Percival retrieving Excalibur from a clan of mysterious faery creatures has strong comparisons to Mat getting his ashanderai, and Arthurian legends say that Excalibur’s scabbard had magical properties that stopped the wearer being touched, like Mat’s amulet.
The great hunt for the horn could be compared to the hunt for the grail.
yeah, also he gets the swors from "the stone" lul.
I always thought merlin was more a mix of moraine and thom merillin. This also fits with the repeating circle, they have our stories as legends, but we have their story as a legend too
"Rhys" is pronounced "Reece" (or "Riss" sometimes)
You are correct. Here in Wales, there are loads of people called Rhys.
@@bluesmanfromWales lovely welsh name 💕
It pops up in Discworld too, but I understand thr difficulty in seeing it for a first time without knowing the pronunciation. Like ALL wheel of time names it seems sometimes.
Love to see some Welsh viewers in here! Part of my family heritage is Welsh so double yay ;]
I was searching for what to read next, after I finished the Grisha series, when I first came across your channel and after watching your fantasy series tier list video ( where you put WoT in the top tier) decided to give WoT a go. This was somewhere during the last week of April, and I finished the whole 14 book series just yesterday on June 25 and just wanted to share it here and thank you making such awesome content
….. BEST SERIES EVER!
Asmodeons death always felt cheap to me would of loved to see that character develope more
But it also shows how vonurable even the Forsaken are and how they interact with each other.
@@weleho yeah true but that trade off, for me at least, didnt outweigh Asmodeon's potential he could of had to the overall story. There was so much jordan could have done with Asmodeon. He could betrayed rand when he was getting his powers back, he could of turned good, or sacrificed himself, or turned crazy and done some damage...hell he could of replaced masma as rands crazed prophet and perrin could have fought him i mean the possibilities were endless
I wanted him to come back in differnet body like other forshakens did.. with him going back to light with redemption arc that he already might have been ..
@@mr_noob5931 yeah def lots of potential for that character in my opinion that were wasted for a "whos done it"
@@michaelperillo9316 i like to believe that robert jordan just forgot the character...
Another quick fact, shi'tan is the Islamic devil and al'thor is arabic for "the bull".
Also the word shaitan in hindi means rogue or scoundrel, probably a loan word from Arabic that arrived when mughals invaded India?
On a similar note, Satan is a swedish word for the devil, and el toro is spanish for the bull. Linguistics is fun kids.
Also, also, alsooo, Ishamael comes from the Talmudic figure Samael an archangel, known to be 'the seducer' and 'the destroyer' - thought to be Ha-Satan, the opposer, or the adversary. A figure that is not necessarily evil, but one that plays the opposition (in a judicial context) to God.
Obviously there's also the the link to Ishmael the first son of Abraham
(Ha-Satan appears in the story of Job)
Yeah, Shaitan means DEVIL in hindi too
@@psykedude Yep, spanish has many loan words from Arabic due to it's longstanding occupation by the early Islamic Caliphates
Damn, I never saw the vagina island until now! Can't unsee it.. lol
I wish the books had leaned more towards sci-fi though, the Dark One being an alien would have been awesome!
I did get the feeling, when reading the books, that Jordan kind of wanted to go this way when he included the dreams/memories of the world with skyscrapers and airplanes, etc. It's almost like he wanted to include this "world", but didn't want to drift away from the fantasy aspect of the series.
I was also disappointed that none of the "inventions" ever had a big part to play in the series, or were never advanced even more, like the steam powered vehicles.
And that we never really got to see/read about the lands in the east.
But maybe that was half the fun of it, leaving so much stuff for the reader to imagine for themselves afterwards.
I agree more Sci-fi would have been cool. After a while fantasy books get repetitive and are too similar to one another. Sci-fi never gets old to me.
@@totallysick88able Yea, I swap between reading sci-fi and fantasy every few months, or when I finish a series.
But I'm reading Dune at the moment and I don't really know what it is!
It's kind of both, but also neither..
I thought paris...
This video made me re-read the entire series, just finished it again. Thankyou Daniel 😁
Halfway through the series and loving it ;)
And I’m just past the halfway point of Sandman 😁 also loving it
Dark One: My name is Sa'Kahn
Rand: What's Sa'Kahn?
SA'KAHN THESE NUTS HAHAHAHAHAH *unravels pattern*
So, Dannil Lewin was the once to Wheel of Time what Fatty Bolger was once to Lord of the Rings.
As someone who is going to start with the wheel of time in 2021, this was a refreshing video to watch.
Perfect video for the Wot Wednesday 😊 I am so excited to see what they are gonna show or announce on twitter today...
There are still elements that demonstrate that the world of WoT is our world. The legend of Lem travelling to the moon. During the Apollo mission the craft that actually landed on the moon was called the Lunar Excursion Module, usually refereed to as the LEM. Plus all of the Odin symbology surrounding Mat.
I hope I am not the only one of your subscribers to admit to this: I am working to finish WoT largely due to your continued endorsement of the series as well as the upcoming Amazon WoT TV adaptation (I prefer to have read the source material before viewing any kind of TV or movie adaptation), but I have to honestly confess that I am having trouble consuming Mr. Jordan's text. I have not had any trouble with the fantasy genre in the past (classic or modern), but for some reason there is real difficulty in finding a foothold with WoT. As always, thank you for all the wonderful content.
In the same boat here. I am now 100 pages in The Dragon Reborn, where I read the other two over the past year in between other books. At the end of each of the previous two books I was hyped for the next one, only for that hype to die out quickly into the next book.
I guess I am just waiting for anyone to actually do anything, rather than have circumstance thrust them into action, especially with a concept like ta'veren. For example, Rand meeting Morgase only happens because Rand decided to go out and then climb that wall. However, most other events are just our protagonists being forced to head in a certain direction, be it through enemies, allies or vague writings, only to deal with whatever they find there.
I didn't catch Tar Vagon for like 15 years but learned about it a few years ago in a WoT group.
Only one I didn't really know before this post was the extra sci-fi angle. Glad it didn't turn out that way.
How could I never see that Tar Valon was a huge vagina? I mean I immediately got the Dragonmount part of it, but that's one glaring oversight. I am quite ashamed that I didn't catch up on that even though I read it throughout puberty. I should have gotten that.
At this point I just wanna finish the Wheel of Time so I can watch all your spoiler videos completely
Just do it definitely worth it
Started reading the series because of you! Just finished the first book and I'm loving it so far
This was very timely. Just finished my first ever read through. Was not feeling it most of the way but somewhere around the halfway point I became very invested and after seeing the conclusion I have come to really appreciate it as a whole.
I also started the series because of you. I am reading one of your favourites, The Shadow Rising. It’s amazing
I haven't read the series since the last book came out, but now with the TV series coming out I'm starting to dive back into the fandom. And when people start spitting out names, I'm just like "ah, yes. I totally remember that person. They did the stuff... with the thing! Right?"
Great to see this. Been waiting for some more Daniel B. Greene Wheel of Time content.
Seanchan is massive in the maps. And unlike the Westlands, they seem to be more stable and more populous. It seems more plausible when you consider that Seanchan is based off of Imperial China, an empire that absolutely and regularly had populations in the millions since the early Medieval period, iirc.
Very China inspired even if it is actually the remnants of North America post Breaking
the fourth ta'veren should have been egwene, completely unbiased opinion
No she got her way enough without help. She would be too broken if she was taver' en
@@mattbinkowski2095 Being Ta'veren would help explain some of that though. Egwene being Ta'veren would also fit with a huge motif of the story, Balance.
completely biased opinion: i agree
@@DudeWheresMyJo-Car True, but I think the idea of Egwene going through her arc off her own merits and development gives a lot more weight to her story.
It would also be a plot complication to have a Ta'veren in such a high position of power as she attains, as that might be a moral contradiction to the values she promotes when she's fighting in the White Tower. Where the 3 boys are sort of village folk who stumble along in the beginning and the Ta'veren-ness is used to add mystery and tie everything together, I think if Egwene was Ta'veren, here character would try to utilize it more as a tool more often which I think would damage the gravity and struggle of her story.
@@Echidna23Gaming I understand that you feel giving Egwene the Ta'veren luck mode cheat code would undermine her accomplishments. Normally, I would agree that plot armor gives less weight to a character's choices and actions, but I think WoT is different because this is already baked into the way the WoT world works. Since I don't discount Rand, Mat, Perrin, or Lews Therin's accolades for being Ta'veren, then I couldn't discount Egwene her accomplishments had she been Ta'veren too.
Hearing you pronounce all these names is making my head hurt. I've only just finished the series recently and haven't delved deeply into the fandom. But I absolutely loved the books.
My introduction to WOT was in high school with the elusive YA remakes of The Eye of the World. I read through the first 5 books like an addict. Fell out of the series for some reason and never went back to it but have been wanting to restart for a long time now. Your WOT content has gotten me so excited to finally restart from book 1 and finally finish the series.
These were some fantastic fun facts!
spoilers below --->
Also, I love that Robert Jordan was still willing to write the story HE wanted. As the author he saw an alternate theory and he wrote with it. I personally enjoy that Graendal killed Asmodean. This allowed Brando to make her such a dangerous and well written villain in the later books rather than Lanfear Lite.
Something that may or may not be know to some of you- At Dumai's Wells, the "Kneel or you will be knelt" line is said by Taim, not Rand. I always thought it was Rand that said it, but a kind fellow on twitter taught me otherwise
I love the Chronicles of Amber almost as much as Daniel loves The Wheel of Time.
Fun stuff! I wish those books had continued. I would have really loved a prequel series to see how that universe came to be.
I really wish that the mystery of Asmodean's death had never been solved. Most entertaining cliff hanger in fantasy history IMO.
Sanderson also said the thing with WoT being in the future on stream.
He should have kept Taim as Demandred, kept Shara out, and also, I think it would have been interesting to have an Asmodean redemption arc, one where he dies of course, gotta pay for those past crimes after all.
Hopefully they do that for the tv-series
I agree
Eh, Shara was out of left field, but Taim as Demandred is literally the first thing anyone who reads it will think. It is so obvious it would be stupid to stick with. I mean, they are the same fucking guy, down to the looks and jaw clench.
Taim earned his rank, and Demandred was the practical effects version of the man Taim was only a pencil sketch of. The part where Taim realizes Demandred is nuts is awesome, because it parallels historical warfare. Taim is essentially the Ghengis Khan, to Demandred's Darius/Alexander. Both incredibly dangerous powers, but one maintains the veneer of honor while fielding a completely dominant army, while the other one could not care less about honor because he is all about winning.
To understand what Taim represents...
Imagine, if you will, a soldier in a city guard that has spent countless hours perfecting his battle skills in preparation for an attacker of roughly the same type of force. He is faster than anyone with his sword, spear, and shield. He is bigger and stronger than everyone else. He can fight for hours without rest... and then Khan rolls up with some fuckers shooting arrows from horses. Can't beat the range of the bow, and even if you could, EVERY TARGET is moving, and horses are too fast to catch with melee weapons. Imagine the realization that occurs when you are staring at the business end of a lost arms race. He doesn't have a chance to even fight back a little. Complete domination from the start.
Taim brings the single most deadly force on the evil side, with most of the Black Tower and almost half of the white tower. He is, however, a one trick pony.
Macedonia became a power because of weapon technology as well, but in a different way. Traditional battle units and formations were used, with a single devastating modification. The Macedonians used 3-5 feet of wood to become unstoppable in a bid for one of the single most impactful "duh... why didn't I think of that" moments in history. The 3 to 5 feet of wood was placed between the head of a spear and the person holding it, extending the spear's range. Thats right. Their big idea was basically "what if we had longer spears than the other guys?" The answer, as it turns out, is "We can kill them before they can kill us."
Despite their incredibly effective spear modification, they still saw battles like a boxing match. Two opponents step into the ring and fight like men until one is knocked out. Sure, it was the equivalent of a 300lb body builder against a blind junkie, but it was an honest battle. If the junkie chooses to get in the ring, they should know what to expect.
Demandred has no problem using his entire army against forces that never had a chance of winning. To him, a larger and more powerful army is just proper planning and preparation. It isn't his fault if you didn't prepare, so he isn't going to show any mercy. He uses tactics and formations that put both armies into pitched melee battles, because it favors his army of monsters and Sharan's. He wants to dominate the battlefield more than he wants to kill specific people. Killing Rand isn't good enough. He needs to annihilate and break Rand's forces to prove he is better in some way. Three personal duels and dueling armies wouldn't work without Demandred having a massive advantage. The Sharans are the massive advantage.
Just started EotW again for probably the 5th time to get ready for the show (whenever that comes out). This video's release was a funny coincidence as I was just noting how much new detail I pick up on in subsequent re-reads. Awesome video! I definitely fell into the "huh?...huh...oooooh" camp with Tar Valon lol
I really appreciate the clarity on spoilers, as someone who got stuck in the slog and has started over from the beginning. I love wheel of time content, but it's really hard to consume it sometimes because I'm not sure if there are spoilers in there beyond about the middle of book 9
I'm just starting this series. Very excited about what's to come, after watching so many of your videos!
I always thought Tar Valon shared similarities with early Paris and L'Ile De France, but yeah... WAP is a better description. :D
Usually, X Things You Didn't Know type of vids/articles are things that yeah, being a major fan of something, I do know of at least a couple, if not all of the items. But this really was five things I had no clue about.
A WOTaholic here. Wot found you for me, great show with Alan dean foster. Keep the WOT stuff coming as part of your content and I’ll continue to learn from you and your channel.
Revelation at 2:50 is so awesome knowing this distinguished veteran with a degree in physics, studied in military academy, flew rescue choppers in Vietnam and writes so immersive for me and descriptively was going to write the WoT in a particular genre. A lived-in badass in same vein as Tolkien in the best, in my experience, sort of library fantasy genre descendant, followed by a worthy literary inheritor to complete the epic story. I'm losing my words.
I love WoT, but it would have been so interesting ifthe Taim/Demandred story hadn't changed. The Shara part in Memory of Light is just so jarring , but I still love it. Daniel, great content again!
I read the series many times, yet missed many facts too. Plus different perspectives too, which is quite interesting 🤔 informative. Entertaining.
This makes me want to re-read wheel of time AGAIN. Would love to see you read and review more of the red rising series by pierce brown in preparation for the final book, it takes OFF after the first book.
In 1990, that same year EotW hit the shelves, a not so well received sequel in the Sega series, Phantasy Star III, Generations of Doom was released.
I mention this because the main character at the start was named Rhys and it is later found in the story that they are on a space ship with 7 connected worlds, or biodomes. 7 eyes of the world so to speak, which is literally what I imagine when I read the EotW. They're also fighting an evil entity known as Dark Force, which corrupts the countryside and returns every 1000 years to be defeated again and again.
when you’re reading and it’s just another Faile chapter😰
It do be like that sometimes 😔
Me who liked them 🤔
Try the audio books. They're great but my god the way Perrin says FAILE!! FAILE!! is just so awful.
Audio books help me get through Faile and Elayne
@@1776PonySoldier sounds like a fail
Been a fan of the series 20+ years and I am embarrassed to say I had not realised your first revelation. Now I cannot unsee it. 😂
I just finished The Eye of the World and I have to say that the attention given to both male and female characters is one of the reasons I enjoyed it as much as I did and why I was intrigued by this series. I often feel incredibly alienated by adult fantasy written by men because of the way women are treated but I was incredibly impressed by how the women felt like actual human characters and I am incredibly excited to see how they grow and develop further into the series
VERIETY my friend Daniel is the spice of life and You seem to have a bag full of this precious material.
Here's a thank you for that.
Still can't believe I didn't notice the Tar Valon symbolism...not even subtle!
Just wanted to say- Rhys is a traditional Welsh name. Pronounced similar to Reece. Made me smile that was referenced as sci-fi leaning when it is ancient. Not that it's a critique at all, can't imagine that spelling is that common in the US?
Apologies that soooooo many people have already said this. Keep up the good work Daniel. 👍🏻
Awesome!! Long-time fan of the books and didn't know any of these.
"Certifying it as a wap" i almost spit my drink on my work monitor.
Videos like this are getting me hyped to start a re-read of the series!
Well given that the archetypal power of female genitalia is used as a symbol even in the most classy Christian art, it does not surprise me that a book taking place in another world's Renaissance would have some similar symbolism built into nature.
I’m perturbed by how accurately you depicted my reaction to that map... well done.
Have you read Warrior of Altaii? It gives a really interesting glimpse into what the WoT might have been if RJ wrote it earlier in his career.
I feel like some of the grimdark and brutal elements really compliment the more family-friendly aspects. Like Perrin’s brutality and almost downright insanity when trying to get Faile back, or Ituralde’s POV from Maradon. That last is downright horrifying, especially with the effect on him later on.
I have been with you ever since you were pretty much all WOT. Its been fun!
In the article he showed “The Genesis of the Wheel of Time” it mentions the original cover art that had Dannil on it, and then I realized I had a copy that has that scrapped cover art on the inside of the cover
Even though I found and then ignored the Wikipedia article for The Wheel of Time long, long ago, this was the first video I ever watched that talked about the series.
Thus, the first thing I learned about WoT is that there's a vagina city and is very, very important.
Can we please get a shirt with the Tar Valon map and "WoTCertifiedWAP!" underneath it?
10/10 suggestion. Would buy, then never wear for fear of thoroughly embarrassing my wife.
Was the vagina thing definitely intentional? I know Jordan was aware of it and joked about it later on but I was never sure if he actually did it on purpose or just went 'oh....whoops' :D
there is no way several people looked at that through the design process and no one mentioned it.
@@DanielGreeneReviews True and he was definitely happy to run with it but I got the impression he hadn't *intended* it when he came up with the idea. I could be wrong though :D
@@DanielGreeneReviews I remembered reading somewhere that Harriet saw the map and knew what her husband intended lol.
I mean, if he didn't make the maps himself (did he?) but just described it to someone, I could easily see how he'd miss it until he was presented with a drawing, at which point it would be fun to just run with the joke.
@@thehoogard True, but the description from the text was pretty dead on with the map.
So yeah.... on his map has a dick next to a vag.
Looking at your map I'm wondering if the Seanchen aren't from today's British Isles. The Wetlands are Europe with the Waste maybe The Urals? I always wondered what happened to the America's, Africa and SE Asia during the breaking. I see Australia, New Zealand and all the Pacfic islands broken and submerged. Along with the Caribbean islands.. Obviously there was no communications with these areas during and after the breaking
I just finished A Memory Of Light yesterday! Thanks for convincing me to read the series I loved it
Have you ever heard of the "The Prince of Nothing" series from R. Scott Bakker? After watching a few of your videos, Ive noticed that you like the kind of dark stuff. TPON is kind of fucked up and very very dark but it is very philosophical and good! The only thing that sucks are the names of the characters... The rest is pretty awesome. Would love to see you make a review video on it :)
I've done 2 re-reads now I'm doing my 2nd listen through. I love Michael Kramer and Kate "Reading".
Ofc you decide to post this just as I start the fourth WOT book lol. Thank.
So glad I found your channel and got into the WoT, currently on the Fires of heaven and loving it.Speaking of sci-fy would love to see your take on Gene wolfe's "The Book of The New Sun" there's not many youtubers discussing it
Lol, I knew all of these...except the first one! So strange, I've been reading (and rereading) WoT for 20 years and never noticed Tar Valon's design.
Theory: The show will want to streamline things so they'll go back to Taimondred and get rid of Shara. I'd certainly be down for that!
I really hope that
I can't agree. The appearance of Demandred with Sakarnen, the Sharans *and* a full ring of 72 brought the whole idea of the last battle to an entirely new level! Tarmon Gai'don made the war in Lord of the Rings look like a border scirmish, and I've always been a big Tolkien fan. The last book must be a whole season of it's own or don't bother.
Besides, Demandred could be shown having dealings in the Westlands, leading people to speculate that he is Taim, only to find out otherwise when Taim is presented as a new Dreadlord in his own right and Demandred's arrival would confirm it. They could even make Demandred Asmodean's killer it the show. It would be a good tease for the book readers who think they know the answer.
Problem is, who then kills Taimondred?
@@Ayeshteni I'm not sure, but I think you misread my comment. Demandred and Taim would remain separate people, but people could be led to *think* that they are the same person. We would still have Egwene vs Taim and Lan vs Demandred, and I really want to see both.
I think losing either one would be a very serious loss to both book fans and tv viewers . Egwene needs to be shown as the hero she becomes and we need to see that Lan is truely the best, not only because of his skill, but his willingness to do whatever it takes to get the job done.
@@haplozetetic9519 I was replying to the original poster Perry Fox who wanted a single forsaken 'Taimondred'. :)
You do a good job with these videos, dude. Keep it up.
I didn’t notice the big V until my second read years later 😂 it cracked me up for a full day.
I thought for sure that Taim was Demandred up until he was made chosen by Morriden with Demandred in the room.
I am reading New Spring and despite the over explaining I am loving it so far
I think I got the Tar Valon crescent vagina thing, but didn’t know if it was super conscious. But the Dragonmount changes that. Chalice and Phalice imagery isn’t new to me, I just hadn’t considered it so *geographically* before.
My head cannon has always been that Seanchan was Asia big or bigger. Like a huge vast nation. I had the impression that there was just so much more that never crossed the Aryth.
So I was thinking, expand on the Seanchan, show us the divide that happened on Seanchan homeland and put demandred/taim at the center of it!. Eventually shut off communication from Seanchan just like in the books and then instead of Shara being brought to the final battle, demandred brings Seanchan.
Yes Daniel talking about the WoT has been very missed.
Seanchan is still possibly three times the size of the Westlands after it was down graded in size (as noted in wert's article) so it is believable that they could field such a large army.
Who's the NB character in WoT? Aran'gar? She clearly identified as a woman upon resurrection. Maybe the DO or shaidar haran? Please I'd like to know because I never actually spotted anything like that
Correct, there are 2 charachters who endure gender reassignment as punishment. A lot of readers criticize the binary cosmology of WoT but fail to recognize that it is a symptom of a broken world that The Pattern is working to heal through the ages & it's agents of change namely the Ta'veren.
@@bwil1000 2? whos the other one?
This is why I subscribed! Thanks Daniel!
where i live, Sacaan is a brand of sliced bread, now that you mention it, it makes for a great fantasy book character name
Technically, Tar Valon would be a vulva
Lol I must be the "other half" because his impression of my reaction was spot on 🤣🤣
I believe the name Rhys is welsh, and it's pronounced 'Reese'.
At least thats how the Rhys i know pronounced it.
I just finished it and it was truly amazing
Who was the Agender character in Wheel of time? For the life of me I can't think of who it could be
Same!
Halima, maybe? I don't remember whether s/he had POVs
None of them, really. Halima/Ar'agnar/Belial was a dude's soul in a woman's body, but they still had a gender. You cant even call them trans, because the body is what changes the mind, starkly opposite of what trans is.
The closest thing to agender would be the Gholam, which was neither male nor female, but shaped in a male or female way when created. 5 of each, if I remember right.
@@CNNBlackmailSupport Yeah I guess Gholam but I don't think they got any PoVs? I definitely don't count Halima as Agender.
@@lotus1896 I wish I had an answer for you.. I can't think of anyone else that fits the bill other than Belial/Halima/Ar'angar.
Now I am trying to remember who the Non-Binary characters are and who (or what) the NA refer to...
Asan'gar is the Non-Binary
@@Shiva182Katarina I thought the books were very clear about how he identified himself (not writing it out because of potential spoilers), unless I am misremembering. Going over the list of POV characters, the Gholam might have been the more likely answer perhaps? (Although I do recognize sexless, genderless and non-binary are three separate things)
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