5 Months later, this tutorial still works however because more people are using this method the average drops to around to 15-18 million isk/hour. Great tutorial and I hope for the best!
@@furriass3978 Try using a larger carrying capacity or possibly a much faster ship. Also make sure that you aren't doing some of the products like soil. Those ones have very little profit to be made.
Tested this in amarr space (starting: Amarr, t2 expanded cargo modules in a bestower for 21k cargo) it worked out around 8 mil in an hour, which isn't great. Maybe another region would be better. I know the Caldari Ono corridor you can combi distrubution agents with commodities for good isk.
I used to do this hauling a lot. One downside is, you can't do it infinite times. The buy order will go up and the sell orders will go down, cutting profits. Good thing is that it will reset daily I believe. Anyway, check the buy/sell orders before you buy, because the item can be unprofitable at certain moments. And be careful with going into low-sec. Some items are cheapest there. 2nd thing. Learn the skills that drop the tax you pay with selling/buying, because it adds up over time.
You might be careful though, some goods, slaves for examples are banned in some empires. Customs might confiscate the goods and fine you when entering Minmatar or Galente space with those. I think toxic wastes have similar restraints.
Yes, but it seems to be only a problem for Toxic Waste, Slaves and Small Arms. Vitoc is also outlawed by some null-sec owning NPC empires and that is it. I made a screen with current status of these here i.imgur.com/fARxDLO.png
I think you still be better off dying to know sick and doing PI what will get you a lot more than you are getting here especially that if you can get everything up to fall quickly it takes about two months you’ll be making a lot more than that and if you pick the right side is in the combat zones you can use a battleship all evenly battlecruiser a lot of the small ones, you are easily make 20 million an hour plus what your pi will do that day
Intresting one are runs for low sec minerals/compres ore runs. Sometimes you can get 50mil just for 2 jumps, but risk is greater because of gate camps.
You really should do those starter missions and career agents. That should give you enough capital. If you pay for omega and train tax reduction skills asap then 20 misk is quite possible yet. For alphas not so much since CCP nerfed sales tax on alpha clones a few months after this video was published.
This is great, is there any way to do something similar for BPO/BPC? I spend a lot of time looking for a good blueprint that will provide a good payoff. What are your thoughts?
This is great, thank you. I got both the wreath and the sunesis after watching your videos. I must have a wrong setting in the game because when i use your website to find the best things to haul, the orders dont show up in the market. For example, “vitoc” only appears as a single sell order and there are no buy orders. What am i doing wrong?
@Pterippi Gaming I see "hub to hub" and "hub to region" with the 2 (blue coloured) tools you provide. Maybe a stupid question, but why don't you use "region to region or region to hub" in your tools? Wouldn't that increase the options to find the best trade? 2nd Q. Do you use (giant) secure containers for extra cargo space?
Yes, for you it will be negative. But it is also a question for ganker. If ganker computes that they will make profit you will be ganked. So the values I compute are base on this maximal value of goods you can carry reasonably safely because you are not so valuable target for ganking.
@@PterippiGaming OK so basically, if you carry below that much goods, you can't be profitably ganked? Is that what you're saying? I think profitability depends on not just the good, but also if you use a damage control and inertia stab (for tank and fast align) like me or a zillion cargo expanders. I get the concept there is theshold when you're not a good target anymore, but I still don't entirely understand that column because it depends on both the cargo and the fitting.
I really like this tutorial but i'm struggling to earn the figures per hour that you're talking about. I'm not sure what i'm doing much differently but i'm only pulling in about 6-10 mill isk per hour
There have been a change in level of tax on sales for alpha accounts. Since this tool operates on a very thin margin (10-20% depending on ware) this hit alphas hard. The second option is that if this tool is used actively by other players they use up the offers before they become as lucrative as possible. So this activity has sort of self-regulating reward.
as a noob, can i ask where or how do I even trade with the NPC's? Do i have to go somewhere else? currently im docked in Jita is there a menu i need to bring up somehow?
Do you know how to open the market window? Those NPC orders are located in the same place as the one's posted by players. You can distinct one form the other by duration which is capped at 90 days for players.
Hm. Seems to be working on my machine. Do you still have an issue? Any chance you have issues with your connection to ESI servers? For example try loading this data file from ESI servers esi.evetech.net/latest/markets/10000002/orders/?datasource=tranquility&type_id=45601&page=1 and check if it loads correctly.
Was there some patch or are the yjust low now because a lot of players decided to farm these? The prices naturally get lower for buy and higher for sell orders for some time after a player buys them. Then they gradually return to their default values. So people just decide at which profitability they want to do this. Also with the recent changes in Sell Tax back to 2.5% these should be actually more profitable, then when I made this video.
Well. It is intended as a guide for people who have just started playing and don't want to go P2W path. It was also great starter cash for alpha accounts before the recent tax changes.
@@PterippiGaming if you want to make an alpha account guide for how to make isk to plex your account... well that's not it ;) way too low income to make any money - also omega account is not pay to win...
@@xasanth6318 Do you have better suggestions for making money with 0-days old alpha character? If yes, please share. " omega account is not pay to win." I am not talking about paying for omega. If you do just that this guide will be pretty much as valuable for you on day 0 as if you were just playing an alpha character. Even more so, because you can get more IPH with tax reduction skills.
@@PterippiGaming the first day you are playing you have enough to do with career agents and sisters of eve... but if you are still progressing fast you could run a Corax in exotic t9 which gives you 10-20m an hour
@@PterippiGaming if you checked above there are ways to fly abyssal at day 1 if you want to... 10-20m an hour but well how does it on day one anyway... at least not as a new player... you would and should aim for the career agents and sister of eve after that to get to know the game... and what you need for that will be provided anyway - after that you'll end up with a few hundret millions anyway which you can invest into flying abyssal or what ever you prefer
@@PterippiGaming I was talking with a new player just a few days ago in the Eve Online University channel. He was scammed for around 100 mil isk on a transportation contract. I eneded up fronting him a new ship so he woukdnt get discouraged. I myself have been ganked a few times running hauling contracts. I now try to avoid them. Too risky.
@@cardboardempire That is indeed horrible. However, this video is not about hauling contracts from other players. In fact the activity in this video has very little interaction with other players at all.
5 Months later, this tutorial still works however because more people are using this method the average drops to around to 15-18 million isk/hour. Great tutorial and I hope for the best!
whatever, i'm using this stuff and only making 4-5 million isk per hour...I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong
@@furriass3978 Try using a larger carrying capacity or possibly a much faster ship. Also make sure that you aren't doing some of the products like soil. Those ones have very little profit to be made.
Tested this in amarr space (starting: Amarr, t2 expanded cargo modules in a bestower for 21k cargo) it worked out around 8 mil in an hour, which isn't great. Maybe another region would be better. I know the Caldari Ono corridor you can combi distrubution agents with commodities for good isk.
I used to do this hauling a lot. One downside is, you can't do it infinite times. The buy order will go up and the sell orders will go down, cutting profits. Good thing is that it will reset daily I believe. Anyway, check the buy/sell orders before you buy, because the item can be unprofitable at certain moments. And be careful with going into low-sec. Some items are cheapest there.
2nd thing. Learn the skills that drop the tax you pay with selling/buying, because it adds up over time.
Starting in Jita might be the worst spot for this. Literally nothing is worth the isk per jump on the bot from this start point.
Bro can u make a video on hauling for alpha because of new tax it's confusing
You might be careful though, some goods, slaves for examples are banned in some empires. Customs might confiscate the goods and fine you when entering Minmatar or Galente space with those. I think toxic wastes have similar restraints.
Yes, but it seems to be only a problem for Toxic Waste, Slaves and Small Arms. Vitoc is also outlawed by some null-sec owning NPC empires and that is it. I made a screen with current status of these here i.imgur.com/fARxDLO.png
I'm too much of a noob to understand
I think you still be better off dying to know sick and doing PI what will get you a lot more than you are getting here especially that if you can get everything up to fall quickly it takes about two months you’ll be making a lot more than that and if you pick the right side is in the combat zones you can use a battleship all evenly battlecruiser a lot of the small ones, you are easily make 20 million an hour plus what your pi will do that day
Intresting one are runs for low sec minerals/compres ore runs. Sometimes you can get 50mil just for 2 jumps, but risk is greater because of gate camps.
i make it too from time to time ! But how can a NEW Player make 20 mil from day 1 if they Start with 5000 isk? Thats Just bullshit !
You really should do those starter missions and career agents. That should give you enough capital. If you pay for omega and train tax reduction skills asap then 20 misk is quite possible yet. For alphas not so much since CCP nerfed sales tax on alpha clones a few months after this video was published.
This is great, is there any way to do something similar for BPO/BPC? I spend a lot of time looking for a good blueprint that will provide a good payoff. What are your thoughts?
This is great, thank you. I got both the wreath and the sunesis after watching your videos. I must have a wrong setting in the game because when i use your website to find the best things to haul, the orders dont show up in the market. For example, “vitoc” only appears as a single sell order and there are no buy orders. What am i doing wrong?
Hm. A wild guess but maybe you are in a different region or your market filters mess up your orders.
@Pterippi Gaming
I see "hub to hub" and "hub to region" with the 2 (blue coloured) tools you provide. Maybe a stupid question, but why don't you use "region to region or region to hub" in your tools? Wouldn't that increase the options to find the best trade?
2nd Q. Do you use (giant) secure containers for extra cargo space?
20 mill ISK and it took a whole hour can make that much in 16 minutes running low level abyss in a T1 frig
Top 1 way to discourage the desire to play eve
3:50 Column A, row 29. What the heck kind of game did I buy!?
I am surprised that you are surprised.
What is maximum ungankable profit? If you get ganked, isn't your profit on that trip negative?
Yes, for you it will be negative. But it is also a question for ganker. If ganker computes that they will make profit you will be ganked. So the values I compute are base on this maximal value of goods you can carry reasonably safely because you are not so valuable target for ganking.
@@PterippiGaming OK so basically, if you carry below that much goods, you can't be profitably ganked? Is that what you're saying? I think profitability depends on not just the good, but also if you use a damage control and inertia stab (for tank and fast align) like me or a zillion cargo expanders. I get the concept there is theshold when you're not a good target anymore, but I still don't entirely understand that column because it depends on both the cargo and the fitting.
Hello, nice video i think you google sheet need an update also
I really like this tutorial but i'm struggling to earn the figures per hour that you're talking about. I'm not sure what i'm doing much differently but i'm only pulling in about 6-10 mill isk per hour
There have been a change in level of tax on sales for alpha accounts. Since this tool operates on a very thin margin (10-20% depending on ware) this hit alphas hard. The second option is that if this tool is used actively by other players they use up the offers before they become as lucrative as possible. So this activity has sort of self-regulating reward.
as a noob, can i ask where or how do I even trade with the NPC's? Do i have to go somewhere else? currently im docked in Jita is there a menu i need to bring up somehow?
Do you know how to open the market window? Those NPC orders are located in the same place as the one's posted by players. You can distinct one form the other by duration which is capped at 90 days for players.
Dude u r sick, but pro
excellent video, thank you!
Bro taxes increased to 8 % default is 5 its not changing why
Fixed the default rat and set bracket for 0 to 25% range. Thanks for the report!
Super helpful - thank you :-)
Hey Pterippi, Your tool seems stuck trying to get data from ESI. Could be a bug?
Hm. Seems to be working on my machine. Do you still have an issue? Any chance you have issues with your connection to ESI servers? For example try loading this data file from ESI servers esi.evetech.net/latest/markets/10000002/orders/?datasource=tranquility&type_id=45601&page=1 and check if it loads correctly.
all in code
It seems like it´s processing wares for a very long time. Over 15 minutes and still at Processing wares 1 out of 23.
Yes, but is it fun?
Sure. If hauling with larger hauler gets boring you could also give hauling Vitoc with Sunesis a try.
how do you know what your tax rate is?
When you sell items look at the calculations tge game shows to you.
CCP nerfed the prices :D
Was there some patch or are the yjust low now because a lot of players decided to farm these? The prices naturally get lower for buy and higher for sell orders for some time after a player buys them. Then they gradually return to their default values. So people just decide at which profitability they want to do this. Also with the recent changes in Sell Tax back to 2.5% these should be actually more profitable, then when I made this video.
nice video
Good video!
M’AIQ knows much
i can buy from npc but it will not let me sell at all anywhere i go to sell set the price for a buyer and it wont let me sell it what am i doing wrong
Hm. Maybe you need to get to a station where there is a buy order for the item? A screenshot would help clarify the issue.
20 mil is like nothing in eve... Oo I mean it's like over 2 billion to plex your account... so...
Well. It is intended as a guide for people who have just started playing and don't want to go P2W path. It was also great starter cash for alpha accounts before the recent tax changes.
@@PterippiGaming if you want to make an alpha account guide for how to make isk to plex your account... well that's not it ;) way too low income to make any money - also omega account is not pay to win...
@@xasanth6318 Do you have better suggestions for making money with 0-days old alpha character? If yes, please share.
" omega account is not pay to win." I am not talking about paying for omega. If you do just that this guide will be pretty much as valuable for you on day 0 as if you were just playing an alpha character. Even more so, because you can get more IPH with tax reduction skills.
@@PterippiGaming the first day you are playing you have enough to do with career agents and sisters of eve... but if you are still progressing fast you could run a Corax in exotic t9 which gives you 10-20m an hour
@@PterippiGaming if you checked above there are ways to fly abyssal at day 1 if you want to... 10-20m an hour but well how does it on day one anyway... at least not as a new player... you would and should aim for the career agents and sister of eve after that to get to know the game... and what you need for that will be provided anyway - after that you'll end up with a few hundret millions anyway which you can invest into flying abyssal or what ever you prefer
Then you wake up to realize that you wasted your life in a virtual world for nothing... 💥
Well. I learned a lot about people and trading and risk management and opsec in EVE. Definitely not nothing. How real is "real world" anyway?
Quickest way to get ganked or scammed.
Ahem. Why do you think so?
@@PterippiGaming I was talking with a new player just a few days ago in the Eve Online University channel. He was scammed for around 100 mil isk on a transportation contract. I eneded up fronting him a new ship so he woukdnt get discouraged. I myself have been ganked a few times running hauling contracts. I now try to avoid them. Too risky.
@@cardboardempire That is indeed horrible. However, this video is not about hauling contracts from other players. In fact the activity in this video has very little interaction with other players at all.