In my opinion it's not twisted. It's to show respect for Paul as a character and importantly as a father which he was till the very end saving Rudy(his son) and zenith(his wife). He deserves being on father's day and I comend the studio RIP PAUL
EXTRA CONTENT: Paul didn't say, "save your mom even if it kills you" out of selfishness or for his own benefit. He said it because his mother died without him being able to do anything, and he deeply regretted it. Furthermore, he was blamed for his mother's death by his father and brother (which led him to cut ties with his family and become an adventurer). Paul said this because he didn't want Rudeus to experience the same regret he did. After all, knowing this hurts!
I feel like this might be another case of “cut content” that is actually just content that they chose to withhold till later, like last week’s episode and episode 20.
@@kytsunee6324 true, I hope they dont just cut that, they need to use that on next eps explaining both Rudeus POV and Paul's intentions, to make it more impactful.
@@kytsunee6324 It's from the Paul Gaiden, a progression reward for the now discontinued mobile game. Even then, only half of it was released before the game was canceled. But the devs released the transcript and it's on the internet now.
In addition to this at the end of the third arc, Paul started noticing how similar Zenith was to his mother. He even told his story to Zenith and how his mother was the only person he ever really loved. And he fell in love with Zenith, who also fell in love with him. So in a way he is presented with an opportunity to save his mother. In some sense he knew he was going to his death for her.
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for those saying that Rudy 'spaced out' at the end... not really; it's more that the Hydra went 'off script' and caught him off guard with something new when down to the final head. It attacked with its neck stumps (you can barely see that in the anime as there's a neck stump slammed into the ground) which caught him off guard; he even had trouble telling what it was doing via foresight until it was too late.
he stood very close to Hydra that limited the field of his view and foresight, one broken neck attached from side as a bait and the final head caught him off guard while he's just stood up.
Paul's last thoughts. --- "Am I dying?" "I want to confirm if Zenith was alive or not, at least." "Not only that, but Norn and Aisha..." "I wanted to see them again." "Are they going to school?" "Have they grown up?" "Lillia - what kind of reaction will she have to this? Even if it's a pain..." "Will she cry?" "Dammit, I'm filled with regrets." "I don't want to die...." "Still... there are.. still... so many things I wanted to do." Rudy: "Father!" "But..... Oh well..." "Its better than seeing Rudy die." "Chin up, my son. Stay positive..." He smiles one final time.
Is this in the light novel? I read all of the web novel and don’t remember this. If it in the light novel than I’m even more disappointed that I haven’t read it yet ☹️
Episode Title: Parents Premiere date: Fathers day Rudy lost his left hand Paul lost his life Zenith is in a vegetative state Father's day is not great for Rudeus
Last episode Geese said that the author of the book only reached the room with the 3 TP circles then retreated. the book shouldn't contain any information about the guardian.
From what I remember in the novel the book owner chose one of the teleportation circles and marked it by putting a stone in front of it before going in, it ended up being a trap so he lost his friends there and stoped exploring, which is why they had to chose between the two circles left.
Just a little answer for one of your questions that no it is not possible to break a person out once the labyrinth holds a person captive until you defeat the boss or clear the dungeon, FUN FACT : even in LN they showed Paul dead on the ground by drawing a panel like manga to give the readers true trauma 💀
@@TheGenreVersethe Twisting of the knife is Zenith. With so many death flag Paul has, we brace our selves for impact. But then Zenith condition is like the Sledgehammer to the brain. Rudy was telling himaelf that at least we save mom, we finishing what we came here to do Rudy was holding out waiting for Zenith to wake up, to share the pain and work it out as family. To grief together. What we rescue, was just a husk of Zenith.
Yeah, one of the illustrations for volume 12 is that bit with Rudeus standing there with his stub arm looking at Pa/ul, and then the chapter ends. The anime actually made it more gruesome since you can very clearly see he's missing his entire lower half.
@@TheGenreVerse To get it in even deeper, there's a drama CD with the hydra fight from Paul's POV. You hear his thoughts as his son's trying to figure out the circles, how he reacts to seeing Zenith, how he panics as he notices his son about to be crushed, and finally realizing he's dying.
@@keribankain8700 because it don't play the opening at the end like mf mappa did with jjk. Im fr gonna piss off so bad if they do that but thanks god they didn't, paul got the respect as he should. Bind studio cooked
This is not the real Turning Point 3 nor is it the true end result to it either, Rudy's choice to go was the real Turning Point 3, this is barely the first of many layers to be shown in the anime from that single choice, I can't reiterate this enough that that choice Rudy made is THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, it just will be a while before we see it come to full fruition
This was Paul's happiest possible ending, seeing his son survive & the crystal trapping his wife shatter right before he lost consciousness Paul's story ultimately has nothing to do with TP3, the result was always guaranteed. Paul dies & Zenith is released, no matter what The meaningful change is that Rudy is there instead of another heroic adventurer
Enjoyed the reaction. They really went hard on this episode.... they couldn't consult the book, as they said last episode the previous party never found the secret entrance stairway, so the book didn't mention the final teleporter or the hydra. Fortunately, as we saw, Roxy had read a different book that did mention hydras, and Rudy remembered his Greek myths and gaming lore....
Poor Rudy. It seems that the relationship with his parents in either world is a mess and I don't believe that his own family life will be easy going for him too. Well, I must wait and see.
I don’t think turn points “ends”, it’s literally a turning point because everything that comes after would be different without it, if there was no turning point 1, the story would be completely different, he’d stay tutoring Eris and who knows what would have happened later, if turning point 2 didn’t happen, Eris would not have dumped him to get stronger and all of the first part of season 2 would have been completely different, if turning point 3 didn’t happen he’d stay at Ranoa, and idk what else would be different, but it probably doesn’t end here.
Now we know why they skipped 1 week, TP3 episode was on mother's day in Japan and they timed this ep to be on father's day. Regardless of the episode, Happy Father's day to you!
5:24 I don’t want to be that guy but Rudy solos her no contest… Well you could make an agreement for Anime only Rudy RN but soon after this no way he’s just too strong. Not to mention he can Cancel out her magic so ya…
Now in the opening, we can see two timelines between his parents. His mom taken away when he was a kid, and his father was taken away just now. People that cooked the opening is vile, spoiled the whole arc in a few seconds, lol. Now comes the controversial part, oh boy.
In my opinion if rudeus didnt come : 1.Paul woudnt have sacrificed himself 2.Roxy wouldnt have been found 3.The team wouldnt have figured out the way into the 6th stratum. 4.Even if they did they wouldnt be able to defeat the hydra as the integral part in the fight was Rudy Now Because Rudy was there : 1.Paul died but zenith got saved despite being in a vegetative state. 2.Roxy got saved because in the anime we see she literally got saved just before getting killed which wouldnt have happened without Rudy. 3.Rudeus found the secret teleporter to the 6th stratum 4.Rudy helped in defeating Hydra. Now considereing all of these i dont think i will trust the Hitogami for now .
And one thing that anime didn’t made much clear that Paul is actually really strong that even elinalise was struggling to damage the dragon let along cut of its head off, it shows Paul ain’t a normal swordsman, if it weren’t for Rudy he might have lived
I mean, that was perfectly clear given Paul literally did most of the work here. We even see Elinalise tried stabbing it and no visible damage occured. Whereas Paul is cutting off heads left and right and dancing around the dragon without much issue.
@slimshazy2819 Paul isn't that strong, he's not even a Saint in any of the 3 styles (although he could keep up with one just fine) Paul's shorter blade was a legendary blade that cuts better the harder its target is, but can't cut anything soft like bread That's why he can slaughter strong targets effortlessly while Elinalise struggles
This ep is a 10/10 for this kind of chaos production. Direction top tier animation works was well down Q Kawa and his contacts to studio Gear ( chengix huang studio) (chines animation studio) and freelancer did a great job. I hope ther will be back for a session 3 because ther are for session 2 sofar the only one who carries the action
but lets put it in a different perspective: maybe they meant to spend as much time as you can before it's too late and you might regret it like rudeus did...
Fun fact, Turning Point 3 (the one where we got the bad news about Zenith) aired on Mother's Day. After that, they purposely delayed a week to air this episode on Father's Day ... anyway, Happy Father's Day everyone!
this hurts so bad. i know its coming and i cried when reading the novel but sht still stings. i was even not planning to watch this and yet... fffffudge.
The craziest thing about that battle, is that it shows just how strong Paul is. And according to Paul, he’s gotten weaker. And if you wanna really freak out, he said he was never able to beat Ghislaine. But Ghislaine went blow for blow with one of Perugius’s 12 followers. And Perugius isn’t even one of the 7 Great Powers. And technically Orsted is the strongest among the 7. Mushoku Tensei has SO much left to show us.
Just when rudy thought he can reconcile with his father, he lose him. Rudy never got a chance to repay his father at his previous life, he thought he will do it with paul. A cursed for a second life, you will experience a second regret.
What an episode. I've already said it before and I don't want to spoil anything about the future of the plot, but Turning Point 3 was the decision of Rudy whether he choose to go or not. Now that we saw the result of his choice, many people will naturally say he made the wrong decision. However, for a certain outcome I can't spoil now, he'd regret as much as this time even if he stayed. I'm telling this to ease the anime-only community.
9:00 the big crystal is the core of the labyrinth. They need to kill its Guardian (in this case the hydra) to get to it. 9:30 The strategy guide is useless at this point. The author stepped on one of the three circles with his party and was the sole survivor. He didn't know of the hidden circle or of the hydra. 25:40 Nope, Turning Point 3 as an arc still isn't done yet.
Great episode from an LN reader's perspective. This was qkawa's first go at directing an episode, and he absolutely fucking nailed it. There were people complaining that the hydra was CGI after the previews earlier, but I'd say this is the best looking use of it I've ever seen - it doesn't stick out, fits in very well, and there's still 2D shots here and there. The music choice during the fight was also nice - not triumphant or heroic, rather very ominous the whole time (looking back at Turning Point 2, this and the music that plays during the whole Orsted fight actually use pretty much the same instrumentation and sound quite similar). The music choice really drove home that this monster could easily chop someone in half with a single slip-up (and it did).
Some "fun" sidenotes for the ones that care. Sneaking and just taking Zenith doesnt work. They are an S Rank Adventurer Group they know from expierence that releasing the crystal only works by killing its guardian. (It works as a mana source and monster feed off from Mana, explaining e.g. why they keep respawning). Viewers always overestimate Rudeus physical capabilities which isnt their fault. The anime lacks explaining stuff like Battle Aura which Rudeus completely lacks and enhances physical abilities (it also means Paul e.g. covering his sword with mana) and also the reason why high tier physical fighters usually outclass mages. (the water god style can even counter magic) Having to speak spells takes time and also a solid hit to the head usually mean the end to a mage. He is in peak physical condition and has his Eye of Foresight which allows him to do a lot. And even though he is a mage most of his fights in the show are close combat which mages usually avoid. The fact he can fight a Manatite Hydra which is a 100% counter against mages is impressive in itself. Ghislaine even admitted back in the Eris arc that she doesnt think she can win against Rudeus if he was in an open field with enough distance (aka a mages prefered combat space) when he was 7. I do love the teamwork though. Roxy is on healing as she and Rudy both have to say healing spells so it makes sense for him to be on the offensive with Paul while she concentrates on healing. Paul on the attack, Elinalise on defensive. Talhand doesnt get to do much as he lacks healing and his magic is not doing shit to the Hydra. Geese cant help in this fight unfotunately and reports the events in case the party dies (for future adventurers). They also burn bodies since dead bodies can turn into monsters like Wights. Rudy wanted to bring back his remains. Also about talking fast I love how quickly Cliff is casting magic. Remember when Zanoba was crushing his skull and how quickly he spewd the words. Rapper mages would be insane in this world.>< Technically Turning point 3 is not over. Just Like 1 or 2 the full picture isnt available untill later. (TP 1 is still not over and Season 2 expanded on it) Usually a TP has a direct event but consequences that drag into later arcs.
Damn this was a nice ep, theres still 2-3 more major depressing events still to unfold throughout the entire story, if they fully adapt the LN then were in for some juicy times.
Paul is a character that thrives in the face of hardship and danger. In a safe environment, he was a stupidly criminal youth who forced himself on a girl, a playboy who slept with any girl he could, and fell for temptation even after he promised to be loyal in marriage. But as soon as any of his family member is in a precarious or dire situation, he would go off the deep end in order to save them. And through all of his past mistakes, he continued living to make up for it, and he prioritized his 1st wife right to the end of his life. His 2nd wife, whom he wronged in the past, came next. And then his kids (most of all Rudeus) whom he ultimately traded his life to save. As far as a (fictional) father goes, I'm confident to say he made right and deserves to be called a great man at the point of his death.
This is not a spoiler, just my own opinion of the “regret” thing, based on what happened the last few episodes. I think, regardless of whatever Man God says the regret was, it’s gonna be a lie. Because I think he was lying from the start, or at least was manipulating him with half truths. Because even if he regrets going because of Paul’s death, or whatever, he would’ve regretted *not* going far more. Because I think Paul wouldn’t be the only one to die if Rudy didn’t go. Think about it, Roxy was *SECONDS* away from dying. If Rudy hadn’t come with that book, and then found her himself, they would’ve never made it to her in time to save her and she would’ve died. Because the book sped up their trip down to that stratum, allowing them to make it to her in time. And with Roxy dead, the party would be down a member, which means they wouldn’t stand a chance against the hydra, considering they were barely able to beat it __with_ Roxy, *and* Rudy and Elinalise. Especially since Rudy was the one that came up with the idea of burning the necks after cutting off the heads. Not to mention the fact that Rudy is also the one who figured out there was a hidden staircase, *only* because he went through the teleportation ruins that no one in the party even knew about. So not only would Roxy be dead, but it would’ve taken a whole lot longer to reach the boss room, if they reached it at all(because they likely wouldn’t have found the hidden staircase without Rudy) and the whole party might’ve ended up dead. So based on what we saw the last few episodes alone, Man God is full of 💩.
""Save your mother even if it kills you," he said. This was a father talking to his son. Even if it kills you. That certainly wasn't something a parent should say. At the very least, it would have been better if he's said, "Ill save her even it kills me." Still, I didn't think he was a cruel father for saying it. this was his conviction - his trust in me. Paul intended to do what he said - he would save her even if it cost him his life. And he thought of me as an equal. He believed in me. He saw me as an adult. That was why he said what he did. All that remained was to respond. We were going to save Zenith. To that end, Paul and I would share the same determination."
22:14 this scene got me hard, not even a last word,just a dead body. 19:47 I got spoiled before, that paul will dead. When i read the vol 10, it keeps me anxious. I pray the spoiler is fake, or he will die at later volume. After all it's going so welll for rudy and his team. Then rudy got cocky/careless. After that i stop reading the ln for a while because , my heart can't take it anymore.
man you cant compare Paul to current day actual world husbands. in that world nobles have multiple wives etc. paul did his best to stay faithful to zenith only because of her religion (in millis they dont do polygamy etc) but when zenith was mid way into her pregnancy she couldnt have... sexy time with paul. paul is a man that needs his sexy times and eventually lilia who was provoking him... broke him and he cheated. other than that we've seen paul being a GREAT family man. sacrificing everything for his family trying to find them and bring them all back together. and finally he sacrificed his own life to save his wife and his son in one go.
We did say he is capable of being a good person. It's not just him banging other women, is also stuff like how his first time with Lilia went down... As far as we know from Vol 1 that is.
And they had to incinerate him just because the corpses turn into zombies if you just let them too much time, Norn and Aisha will not be able to say goodbye properly either.. Happy(?) father's day
Turning point 3 happening on mothers where we get the reveal that sylphie is pregnant and the letter for help with zenith and now Paul death on fathers day that is straight up twisted
I think you're asking about Frieren? Maybe trying to make a joke about her not having the ability to use healing magic? Sorry if Google translate didn't do a good job with your comment.
Paul is a good person and a good father and an ok husband. His cheating once was not purely his fault. And considering the outcome of this fight and zeniths condition. It would have been better for Paul to have lived and been there for his kids and grand kids as a fully functional adult. Because zenith will never get better from her condition.
@@TheGenreVerse yes Paul forced himself on Lilia in the past in the training dojo to get back at the other guys in the dojo. He grew and learned from that and regretted it. After the mana incident Paul rescued those he could well trying to find his family. Lilia used that past to blackmail Paul for the job later. And was more confused about why Paul did it Paul did that than she was traumatized. When she tells Rudy later she doesn't break down or say she loathed Paul for it. She simply dealt with it and moved on. It's like bison telling chin li that destroying her home and family was just another Tuesday for him. She actively intentionally seduced him for months into cheating in the anime. Lilia is not the pinnacle of morality by any means.
Rudy's status: We beat the dragon😃 Ar! I lose my arm.😨 Still we beat it only losing my arm😁 Father?😐😦😨 on the way back 😕😕😕😕😕 mather is not awaking🙁🙁🙁 at least she is not dead🙂🙂🙂 she is awakening!🥹🥹🥹 She loses her mind and memory 💔 You know what they said, pull you out of troubles just so they can later push you off the cliff.
Very poignant silent ending. Then the aftermath... Based on what we've seen so far, regrets may be going on a mission that has lost his father and (if Zenith don't recover) his mother and (if he doesn't fix it) his arm. The positive is that he saved Roxy, who would 100% have died if he hadn't shown -- but getting close to Roxy might have its own perils.
I can understand with the common thing Japan aired the show like this during father's day since back in 90s I watched the Japanese movie during 1991 father's day where a scene father sacrifice himself saving his son from get hit by a speed car. Before he died he asked his son to forgive him for being no longer able to see his grandchildren again.. Can't afford to feel offended? Come on, that's how Asian countries airing a drama, movie until Anime for a lesson learned in life about father sacrifice for his children and be grateful for those who have wisdom to understand it
Don't think anyone is feeling offended by it. People are pointing it out because it's just unthinkable for the publisher literally delay the airing schedule just to achieve this feat. For the most part, that's just awe, not offended.
We're not offended by it. Please don't mistake our pointing things out and using humorous indignation about them as literal anger. Releasing on Father's Day is a beautifully morbid thing to do.
@@luksalter8200 I mean, no? That's literally addressed in the episode. They state outright that magic will hit at close range. You clearly see the barrier being something that activates several meters away from the body. It isn't the body that's repelling the magic.
@@TheGenreVerse That uh, "greatly depends on your own point of view." - Obi wan Kenobi Sorry if that makes you sad and/or confused. "Nah man, the bartender got it worse than anybody." - Desperado
"so far"... Did you not see us freaking out a few weeks ago because we are constantly expecting the worst? 😆 This show is for pain what Classroom of the Elite is for suspicion!
Damn they purposely released it on fathers day...😢 I think it will be explained in EDIT: waay later episode or season on what happened to zenith... but from what i remember...Spoilers i think..: she has an ability to read minds that developed during her crystalized state... correct me if i'm wrong...telepathy...i dont know how to explain well but, she is somewhat in a dreamlike state, it's like she is talking in her dream but in our perspective, we see and hear her talk like mumbling or gone crazy...its like shes half awake...
@@meliotablet yeah , sry about that... it's been so long and this is the somewhat i remember reading it... i dont even know if its accurate...it is only my understanding...so i might be wrong in explaining...
I understand that you mean no harm, however I suggest editing the original comment you made to "this will be explained WAY later, not in the next episode" since there are people who'd happily read spoilers of upcoming episode but avoid spoilers from literally 2+ seasons away.
To put this episode on Father's Day. The audacity of this show.
Turning Point 3 was on Mother's day too lol.
just sick and twisted
I remember "FATE ZERO"
In my opinion it's not twisted. It's to show respect for Paul as a character and importantly as a father which he was till the very end saving Rudy(his son) and zenith(his wife).
He deserves being on father's day and I comend the studio
RIP PAUL
Brother, I felt the same way! I was like really?! Ya would do it on this day!? No effin way! Top it off, it gets worse for Zenith condition. Wth! 😖😭
EXTRA CONTENT:
Paul didn't say, "save your mom even if it kills you" out of selfishness or for his own benefit. He said it because his mother died without him being able to do anything, and he deeply regretted it. Furthermore, he was blamed for his mother's death by his father and brother (which led him to cut ties with his family and become an adventurer). Paul said this because he didn't want Rudeus to experience the same regret he did. After all, knowing this hurts!
I feel like this might be another case of “cut content” that is actually just content that they chose to withhold till later, like last week’s episode and episode 20.
@@kytsunee6324 true, I hope they dont just cut that, they need to use that on next eps explaining both Rudeus POV and Paul's intentions, to make it more impactful.
This isn't cut content, it's extra content by the MT game. It has never mentioned in the LN.
@@kytsunee6324 It's from the Paul Gaiden, a progression reward for the now discontinued mobile game. Even then, only half of it was released before the game was canceled.
But the devs released the transcript and it's on the internet now.
In addition to this at the end of the third arc, Paul started noticing how similar Zenith was to his mother. He even told his story to Zenith and how his mother was the only person he ever really loved. And he fell in love with Zenith, who also fell in love with him.
So in a way he is presented with an opportunity to save his mother. In some sense he knew he was going to his death for her.
for those saying that Rudy 'spaced out' at the end... not really; it's more that the Hydra went 'off script' and caught him off guard with something new when down to the final head. It attacked with its neck stumps (you can barely see that in the anime as there's a neck stump slammed into the ground) which caught him off guard; he even had trouble telling what it was doing via foresight until it was too late.
We mentioned the Hydra using its stumps... It was a smart villain.
tbf they could have shwon it better that his foresight actually hindered him that time
he stood very close to Hydra that limited the field of his view and foresight, one broken neck attached from side as a bait and the final head caught him off guard while he's just stood up.
Paul's last thoughts.
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"Am I dying?"
"I want to confirm if Zenith was alive or not, at least."
"Not only that, but Norn and Aisha..."
"I wanted to see them again."
"Are they going to school?"
"Have they grown up?"
"Lillia - what kind of reaction will she have to this? Even if it's a pain..."
"Will she cry?"
"Dammit, I'm filled with regrets."
"I don't want to die...."
"Still... there are.. still... so many things I wanted to do."
Rudy: "Father!"
"But..... Oh well..."
"Its better than seeing Rudy die."
"Chin up, my son. Stay positive..."
He smiles one final time.
Is this in the light novel? I read all of the web novel and don’t remember this. If it in the light novel than I’m even more disappointed that I haven’t read it yet ☹️
@@superspicypotatoytt7509 I've been seeing this posted around. Seems like it's from a drama CD and it was not in the WN/LN
@@antisolve1162 theres still a pov of paul in the LN. Its not exactly this but its similar.
I knew the smile was for Rudy...
@@superspicypotatoytt7509 the anime follow LN so yeah, u should read the series again. A lot of new contents
Episode Title: Parents
Premiere date: Fathers day
Rudy lost his left hand
Paul lost his life
Zenith is in a vegetative state
Father's day is not great for Rudeus
It's very, very sad.
Fun fact: Pauls sword gets sharper when the enemy is stronger/Tough.
It is unable to cut soft things like bread but It can cut metal like butter
@@luksalter8200 Thats crazy. Does it have a limit? Could it cut through FG armor?
@@mustafahassan7781 spoilers buddy
@@luksalter8200 its not even that bad 😭
I editted it.
@@mustafahassan7781 yes,Rudy even uses it to It
Paul was an incredible father, even with his flaws, he did what he could for his family
That's why I said he could be a good person. He is/was a complicated character... And a good one at that. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Fun fact in a voiced cd for the ln Paul’s final thoughts were. “I’m so glad it was me , not you Rudy
The CD drama is not related to the LN, the anime adapted Paul's death 1:1 from the source material
@@syo7806 well of course they are related is just another form of the Mushoku Tensei story
@@thesnuggler5941 not related because it's not the source material. In the ln Paul's final thoughts were longer than that
@@shadowx8145it’s written by the author he has many extra works
It’s as much canon as the light novel/web novel
@@TheRoleplayer40k if it isn’t canon it isn’t canon. Doesn’t matter who writes it.
Last episode Geese said that the author of the book only reached the room with the 3 TP circles then retreated. the book shouldn't contain any information about the guardian.
Thanks for the reminder!
From what I remember in the novel the book owner chose one of the teleportation circles and marked it by putting a stone in front of it before going in, it ended up being a trap so he lost his friends there and stoped exploring, which is why they had to chose between the two circles left.
@@ousmaailayoub5727 unfortunately for them that isn't any better since it TPs in random
Just a little answer for one of your questions that no it is not possible to break a person out once the labyrinth holds a person captive until you defeat the boss or clear the dungeon, FUN FACT : even in LN they showed Paul dead on the ground by drawing a panel like manga to give the readers true trauma 💀
Just stick that knife in deeper while twisting... Awesome though... In a morbid way.
@@TheGenreVersethe Twisting of the knife is Zenith. With so many death flag Paul has, we brace our selves for impact. But then Zenith condition is like the Sledgehammer to the brain.
Rudy was telling himaelf that at least we save mom, we finishing what we came here to do Rudy was holding out waiting for Zenith to wake up, to share the pain and work it out as family. To grief together. What we rescue, was just a husk of Zenith.
Yeah, one of the illustrations for volume 12 is that bit with Rudeus standing there with his stub arm looking at Pa/ul, and then the chapter ends. The anime actually made it more gruesome since you can very clearly see he's missing his entire lower half.
@@TheGenreVerse To get it in even deeper, there's a drama CD with the hydra fight from Paul's POV. You hear his thoughts as his son's trying to figure out the circles, how he reacts to seeing Zenith, how he panics as he notices his son about to be crushed, and finally realizing he's dying.
@@Tounushidamn, is it available online?
Respect for the staff for not making it dramtic
Hush
It was pretty dramatic, but I take your meaning.
why?
@@keribankain8700 because it don't play the opening at the end like mf mappa did with jjk. Im fr gonna piss off so bad if they do that but thanks god they didn't, paul got the respect as he should. Bind studio cooked
Happy father’s day
Thanks!
rudy just has it the worst dad sacrifices himself the save his vegetable wife, went to begarit to save his mom loses both parents in the process
😞
Not both, technically zenith is out there and she will
This is not the real Turning Point 3 nor is it the true end result to it either, Rudy's choice to go was the real Turning Point 3, this is barely the first of many layers to be shown in the anime from that single choice, I can't reiterate this enough that that choice Rudy made is THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, it just will be a while before we see it come to full fruition
yes. Really sorry to Paul but it was 'fated' to happen.
It’s actually end of turning point part-1 and now we see the aftermath of that tragedy but at least for the greyrats finally mana disaster is over
Do you ready manga? And where? I must not know! 😖
@@jitzzy6325 the anime has overtake the story from manga. wn / ln is the complete source for the anime
This was Paul's happiest possible ending, seeing his son survive & the crystal trapping his wife shatter right before he lost consciousness
Paul's story ultimately has nothing to do with TP3, the result was always guaranteed. Paul dies & Zenith is released, no matter what
The meaningful change is that Rudy is there instead of another heroic adventurer
Oh, imagine how sad Norn will be when she knows Paul died.
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On fathers day too 😭
All that effort just for mom to end as a vegetable
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better than being dead imo
That's why hitogami said rudy will regret it
@@maratgazizulin but ther is another reason why hitogamy dont whan rudy to go.
I want to see rudy and elric brother have a conversation/cross over.
What i like is that there's no one last time moment, the show does its best highlighting how realistic battle is. Paul was decapitated brutally
Decapitated at the waist 😆... Would that be bisection? Any butchers in the comments?
@@TheGenreVerse You know you’re right, I didn’t know the word for it but there it is 😂
Enjoyed the reaction. They really went hard on this episode.... they couldn't consult the book, as they said last episode the previous party never found the secret entrance stairway, so the book didn't mention the final teleporter or the hydra. Fortunately, as we saw, Roxy had read a different book that did mention hydras, and Rudy remembered his Greek myths and gaming lore....
The Highlight ep in Production and the staff is full jay1 legend Huang, Q Kawa was director and did lovely animation to
Poor Rudy. It seems that the relationship with his parents in either world is a mess and I don't believe that his own family life will be easy going for him too. Well, I must wait and see.
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I don’t think turn points “ends”, it’s literally a turning point because everything that comes after would be different without it, if there was no turning point 1, the story would be completely different, he’d stay tutoring Eris and who knows what would have happened later, if turning point 2 didn’t happen, Eris would not have dumped him to get stronger and all of the first part of season 2 would have been completely different, if turning point 3 didn’t happen he’d stay at Ranoa, and idk what else would be different, but it probably doesn’t end here.
I get that. It was just a way of phrasing the end of this... "turning point arc". If that makes sense. Just trying to, bookend things?
If he stay in ranoa he will not save roxy and roxy will die.
@@yogi_gs nope)
@@keribankain8700 It appears Hitogami's curse of trust works on the reader too...
The robot arm from the doll theory makes a lot of sense -- I was thinking that as well.
Zaliff
@@luksalter8200 even though this will not make any sense to anime onlies, it's still a spoiler.
Now we know why they skipped 1 week, TP3 episode was on mother's day in Japan and they timed this ep to be on father's day.
Regardless of the episode, Happy Father's day to you!
Thanks!
We saw this coming we save mom and she is now in a vegetable state. And paul went out like a hero
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5:24 I don’t want to be that guy but Rudy solos her no contest…
Well you could make an agreement for Anime only Rudy RN but soon after this no way he’s just too strong.
Not to mention he can Cancel out her magic so ya…
Yeah, Avenger Rudy fully prepped will steam roll Fieren.
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@@nguyendi92 ya after *That Fight* happens Rudy is simply too strong for her.
@@nguyendi92 Prep time greatest power.
Now in the opening, we can see two timelines between his parents. His mom taken away when he was a kid, and his father was taken away just now. People that cooked the opening is vile, spoiled the whole arc in a few seconds, lol. Now comes the controversial part, oh boy.
Thankfully we didn't really watch/remember any of it 😆
In my opinion if rudeus didnt come :
1.Paul woudnt have sacrificed himself
2.Roxy wouldnt have been found
3.The team wouldnt have figured out the way into the 6th stratum.
4.Even if they did they wouldnt be able to defeat the hydra as the integral part in the fight was Rudy
Now Because Rudy was there :
1.Paul died but zenith got saved despite being in a vegetative state.
2.Roxy got saved because in the anime we see she literally got saved just before getting killed which wouldnt have happened without Rudy.
3.Rudeus found the secret teleporter to the 6th stratum
4.Rudy helped in defeating Hydra.
Now considereing all of these i dont think i will trust the Hitogami for now .
If you are curious, Hitogami actually explained later on what would had happen if Rudeus didn't go
@@dielucool9640but I don't trust that guy bro in season 1 as well with that orsted case bro was dodging questions
@@dielucool9640 Trusting Hitogami's words even after reading the novels huh...
And one thing that anime didn’t made much clear that Paul is actually really strong that even elinalise was struggling to damage the dragon let along cut of its head off, it shows Paul ain’t a normal swordsman, if it weren’t for Rudy he might have lived
Pretty sure that was because of his magic sword
paul had a sword that was more powerful the stronger the enemy was
I mean, that was perfectly clear given Paul literally did most of the work here. We even see Elinalise tried stabbing it and no visible damage occured. Whereas Paul is cutting off heads left and right and dancing around the dragon without much issue.
@@DrewBrewer but that's for armors
@slimshazy2819 Paul isn't that strong, he's not even a Saint in any of the 3 styles (although he could keep up with one just fine)
Paul's shorter blade was a legendary blade that cuts better the harder its target is, but can't cut anything soft like bread
That's why he can slaughter strong targets effortlessly while Elinalise struggles
This ep is a 10/10 for this kind of chaos production. Direction top tier animation works was well down Q Kawa and his contacts to studio Gear ( chengix huang studio) (chines animation studio) and freelancer did a great job. I hope ther will be back for a session 3 because ther are for session 2 sofar the only one who carries the action
It was awesome!
That time my mom got turned into a vegetable
this is dark... too soon^^. But yes, at firct clance it look like zenith had a stroke or somethig.
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Lol, and people call this "just a power fantasy"
@@user-db2uj9vc7s ngl this dark is nothing compared to what’s yet to come
@@thesnuggler5941oh yea ofc you have guts picture profile 😅
Man I need it to be next week already, very excited from the fallout.. Also man what we have coming in S3/4 😳😲😲😳.
the fact that this was the way to say "happy father's day" by this show is crazy dang
but lets put it in a different perspective: maybe they meant to spend as much time as you can before it's too late and you might regret it like rudeus did...
Very good point.
Fun fact, Turning Point 3 (the one where we got the bad news about Zenith) aired on Mother's Day. After that, they purposely delayed a week to air this episode on Father's Day ... anyway, Happy Father's Day everyone!
this hurts so bad. i know its coming and i cried when reading the novel but sht still stings. i was even not planning to watch this and yet... fffffudge.
this is wild! to do this on fathers day.. Mushoku Tensei is brutalomatico! ._.
9:31 the thing is, the last chapter we knew that the 3 portals where the last thing writen in the Book
Yeah we forgot about that...
The craziest thing about that battle, is that it shows just how strong Paul is. And according to Paul, he’s gotten weaker. And if you wanna really freak out, he said he was never able to beat Ghislaine. But Ghislaine went blow for blow with one of Perugius’s 12 followers. And Perugius isn’t even one of the 7 Great Powers. And technically Orsted is the strongest among the 7. Mushoku Tensei has SO much left to show us.
Just when rudy thought he can reconcile with his father, he lose him.
Rudy never got a chance to repay his father at his previous life, he thought he will do it with paul.
A cursed for a second life, you will experience a second regret.
What an episode. I've already said it before and I don't want to spoil anything about the future of the plot, but Turning Point 3 was the decision of Rudy whether he choose to go or not. Now that we saw the result of his choice, many people will naturally say he made the wrong decision. However, for a certain outcome I can't spoil now, he'd regret as much as this time even if he stayed. I'm telling this to ease the anime-only community.
Rudy going there to save Roxy will make the future very different
20:34 “he probably lost an arm”
He probably lost a dad
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9:00 the big crystal is the core of the labyrinth. They need to kill its Guardian (in this case the hydra) to get to it.
9:30 The strategy guide is useless at this point. The author stepped on one of the three circles with his party and was the sole survivor. He didn't know of the hidden circle or of the hydra.
25:40 Nope, Turning Point 3 as an arc still isn't done yet.
You gonna love the next episode.
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Great episode from an LN reader's perspective. This was qkawa's first go at directing an episode, and he absolutely fucking nailed it. There were people complaining that the hydra was CGI after the previews earlier, but I'd say this is the best looking use of it I've ever seen - it doesn't stick out, fits in very well, and there's still 2D shots here and there. The music choice during the fight was also nice - not triumphant or heroic, rather very ominous the whole time (looking back at Turning Point 2, this and the music that plays during the whole Orsted fight actually use pretty much the same instrumentation and sound quite similar). The music choice really drove home that this monster could easily chop someone in half with a single slip-up (and it did).
26:45 that's literally exactly what i was thinking of when i saw her speak , gave me flashbacks of berserk 😭
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This Episode.... holy... threw a rock at me.
Y’all should check Paul CD drama next eposide so you can hear Paul thoughts while he was dying it’s very sad
Someone shared the text in the comments. I figured that smile was for Rudy...
This makes me wanna read the LNs, love the direction.
“Happy Father’s Day!”
*[Rudy’s father dies]*
Not having a very good Father’s Day, huh Rudy?
Nope!
"Happy Father's Day!"
Yeabouthat.
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Every part of the creature is serrated, even touching it cause a wound as you can see lifting its head it can cut down rudy arm.
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he lost an arm, his father and his mom is in a vegetive state and to think that's not even the most fucked up thing that is going to happen...
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Releasing this EP on fathers day is crazzy!
We know! 😭
Some "fun" sidenotes for the ones that care.
Sneaking and just taking Zenith doesnt work. They are an S Rank Adventurer Group they know from expierence that releasing the crystal only works by killing its guardian. (It works as a mana source and monster feed off from Mana, explaining e.g. why they keep respawning).
Viewers always overestimate Rudeus physical capabilities which isnt their fault. The anime lacks explaining stuff like Battle Aura which Rudeus completely lacks and enhances physical abilities (it also means Paul e.g. covering his sword with mana) and also the reason why high tier physical fighters usually outclass mages.
(the water god style can even counter magic)
Having to speak spells takes time and also a solid hit to the head usually mean the end to a mage.
He is in peak physical condition and has his Eye of Foresight which allows him to do a lot. And even though he is a mage most of his fights in the show are close combat which mages usually avoid. The fact he can fight a Manatite Hydra which is a 100% counter against mages is impressive in itself.
Ghislaine even admitted back in the Eris arc that she doesnt think she can win against Rudeus if he was in an open field with enough distance (aka a mages prefered combat space) when he was 7.
I do love the teamwork though. Roxy is on healing as she and Rudy both have to say healing spells so it makes sense for him to be on the offensive with Paul while she concentrates on healing. Paul on the attack, Elinalise on defensive. Talhand doesnt get to do much as he lacks healing and his magic is not doing shit to the Hydra. Geese cant help in this fight unfotunately and reports the events in case the party dies (for future adventurers).
They also burn bodies since dead bodies can turn into monsters like Wights. Rudy wanted to bring back his remains.
Also about talking fast I love how quickly Cliff is casting magic. Remember when Zanoba was crushing his skull and how quickly he spewd the words.
Rapper mages would be insane in this world.><
Technically Turning point 3 is not over. Just Like 1 or 2 the full picture isnt available untill later. (TP 1 is still not over and Season 2 expanded on it)
Usually a TP has a direct event but consequences that drag into later arcs.
Fun fact, fate/zero plane episode aired on mother's day
I think someone told us that when we did that reaction. Thanks for the reminder!
Damn this was a nice ep, theres still 2-3 more major depressing events still to unfold throughout the entire story, if they fully adapt the LN then were in for some juicy times.
The hydra isn’t in the book. Remember, the room where they found the hidden staircase is as far as the book went.
We forgot about that. Really too wrapped into the events on screen to remember before 😆
@@TheGenreVerse Very understandable. A lot happened.
Paul make a lot of mistakes but he never run away and you can respect that.
Absolutely
Paul is a character that thrives in the face of hardship and danger.
In a safe environment, he was a stupidly criminal youth who forced himself on a girl, a playboy who slept with any girl he could, and fell for temptation even after he promised to be loyal in marriage.
But as soon as any of his family member is in a precarious or dire situation, he would go off the deep end in order to save them.
And through all of his past mistakes, he continued living to make up for it, and he prioritized his 1st wife right to the end of his life. His 2nd wife, whom he wronged in the past, came next. And then his kids (most of all Rudeus) whom he ultimately traded his life to save.
As far as a (fictional) father goes, I'm confident to say he made right and deserves to be called a great man at the point of his death.
watching vinland saga s1 and this ep on a fathers day is crazy work you guys
You ain't lyin'!!!
The devastation i had was tremendous even tho knew it
This is not a spoiler, just my own opinion of the “regret” thing, based on what happened the last few episodes. I think, regardless of whatever Man God says the regret was, it’s gonna be a lie. Because I think he was lying from the start, or at least was manipulating him with half truths. Because even if he regrets going because of Paul’s death, or whatever, he would’ve regretted *not* going far more. Because I think Paul wouldn’t be the only one to die if Rudy didn’t go. Think about it, Roxy was *SECONDS* away from dying. If Rudy hadn’t come with that book, and then found her himself, they would’ve never made it to her in time to save her and she would’ve died. Because the book sped up their trip down to that stratum, allowing them to make it to her in time. And with Roxy dead, the party would be down a member, which means they wouldn’t stand a chance against the hydra, considering they were barely able to beat it __with_ Roxy, *and* Rudy and Elinalise. Especially since Rudy was the one that came up with the idea of burning the necks after cutting off the heads. Not to mention the fact that Rudy is also the one who figured out there was a hidden staircase, *only* because he went through the teleportation ruins that no one in the party even knew about. So not only would Roxy be dead, but it would’ve taken a whole lot longer to reach the boss room, if they reached it at all(because they likely wouldn’t have found the hidden staircase without Rudy) and the whole party might’ve ended up dead. So based on what we saw the last few episodes alone, Man God is full of 💩.
As soon as Orsted's theme kicked in I knew something horrible was about to happen 😭
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""Save your mother even if it kills you," he said.
This was a father talking to his son. Even if it kills you.
That certainly wasn't something a parent should say. At the very least, it would have been better if he's said, "Ill save her even it kills me."
Still, I didn't think he was a cruel father for saying it. this was his conviction - his trust in me. Paul intended to do what he said - he would save her even if it cost him his life. And he thought of me as an equal. He believed in me. He saw me as an adult. That was why he said what he did. All that remained was to respond.
We were going to save Zenith. To that end, Paul and I would share the same determination."
this labyrinth devoured 1 Greyrat and gave birth to another Greyrat.
22:14 this scene got me hard, not even a last word,just a dead body.
19:47 I got spoiled before, that paul will dead.
When i read the vol 10, it keeps me anxious.
I pray the spoiler is fake, or he will die at later volume.
After all it's going so welll for rudy and his team.
Then rudy got cocky/careless.
After that i stop reading the ln for a while because , my heart can't take it anymore.
Happy fathers day to paul ❤
man you cant compare Paul to current day actual world husbands.
in that world nobles have multiple wives etc.
paul did his best to stay faithful to zenith only because of her religion (in millis they dont do polygamy etc) but when zenith was mid way into her pregnancy she couldnt have... sexy time with paul. paul is a man that needs his sexy times and eventually lilia who was provoking him... broke him and he cheated.
other than that we've seen paul being a GREAT family man. sacrificing everything for his family trying to find them and bring them all back together.
and finally he sacrificed his own life to save his wife and his son in one go.
We did say he is capable of being a good person. It's not just him banging other women, is also stuff like how his first time with Lilia went down... As far as we know from Vol 1 that is.
And they had to incinerate him just because the corpses turn into zombies if you just let them too much time, Norn and Aisha will not be able to say goodbye properly either.. Happy(?) father's day
Sigh... Thanks!
A short summary how Frieren vs Rudeus would go: Rudeus casts Disturb Magic,. Then, Rudeus cast Stone Cannon.
That´s it folks, see you next week.
Maybe.
Funny part is Rudy would beat frieren
I was gonna say "no you are insane" but then I remembered about disturb magic... Yeah frieren is not flying anywere
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@@metatempolol7743 and without Spoilers he gets a LOT stronger in the upcoming arcs…
Turning point 3 happening on mothers where we get the reveal that sylphie is pregnant and the letter for help with zenith and now Paul death on fathers day that is straight up twisted
😢
I am 80% certain that they skipped one week of airing so that they could align this episode with fathers day.
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一回フリーレンで癒されに行くか
I think you're asking about Frieren? Maybe trying to make a joke about her not having the ability to use healing magic? Sorry if Google translate didn't do a good job with your comment.
i hope next arc will be eris fokus, i miss my red hair
On a seperate note: Happy fathers day! ♥
Thanks!
Paul is a good person and a good father and an ok husband. His cheating once was not purely his fault. And considering the outcome of this fight and zeniths condition.
It would have been better for Paul to have lived and been there for his kids and grand kids as a fully functional adult. Because zenith will never get better from her condition.
Paul is capable of being a good person. He also forced himself on Lilia adjusting to Vol 1 of the LN, which is the only one I've read so far 😆
@@TheGenreVerse yes Paul forced himself on Lilia in the past in the training dojo to get back at the other guys in the dojo. He grew and learned from that and regretted it. After the mana incident Paul rescued those he could well trying to find his family.
Lilia used that past to blackmail Paul for the job later. And was more confused about why Paul did it Paul did that than she was traumatized.
When she tells Rudy later she doesn't break down or say she loathed Paul for it. She simply dealt with it and moved on. It's like bison telling chin li that destroying her home and family was just another Tuesday for him.
She actively intentionally seduced him for months into cheating in the anime. Lilia is not the pinnacle of morality by any means.
Probably my favorite episode of Mushoku Tensei. Honestly, Paul wasn’t the best father or character but I love him.
Glad you enjoyed it!
9:30 They DO have the book, but the author only made it to the floor above this one. It is no longer helpful.
Yeah, we forgot about the lack of info for the end.
Happy Father's day folks.
Indeed! Thanks too!
Paul❌
Satorou Paul✅
Uhhhh
Rudy's status:
We beat the dragon😃
Ar! I lose my arm.😨
Still we beat it only losing my arm😁
Father?😐😦😨
on the way back 😕😕😕😕😕
mather is not awaking🙁🙁🙁
at least she is not dead🙂🙂🙂
she is awakening!🥹🥹🥹
She loses her mind and memory 💔
You know what they said, pull you out of troubles just so they can later push you off the cliff.
Very poignant silent ending. Then the aftermath... Based on what we've seen so far, regrets may be going on a mission that has lost his father and (if Zenith don't recover) his mother and (if he doesn't fix it) his arm. The positive is that he saved Roxy, who would 100% have died if he hadn't shown -- but getting close to Roxy might have its own perils.
6:00 LEEEEEROOOY JEEEEEENKIIIIIINS!
At least he has chicken.
😂
Look what they did to my boy 😭😭😭😭
He is getting flamed by norm after he goes home it's gonna happen
For a different reason that you might think, but yeah
Bro lost his dad and his mom isn’t functioning 💔💔💔
I can understand with the common thing Japan aired the show like this during father's day since back in 90s I watched the Japanese movie during 1991 father's day where a scene father sacrifice himself saving his son from get hit by a speed car. Before he died he asked his son to forgive him for being no longer able to see his grandchildren again..
Can't afford to feel offended? Come on, that's how Asian countries airing a drama, movie until Anime for a lesson learned in life about father sacrifice for his children and be grateful for those who have wisdom to understand it
Don't think anyone is feeling offended by it.
People are pointing it out because it's just unthinkable for the publisher literally delay the airing schedule just to achieve this feat. For the most part, that's just awe, not offended.
We're not offended by it. Please don't mistake our pointing things out and using humorous indignation about them as literal anger. Releasing on Father's Day is a beautifully morbid thing to do.
Rudy made a mistake not picking up Frieren on the way. She'd have deep-fried that Hydra with Mana to spare.
The Hydra is anti-magic
@@luksalter8200
Not up close it ain't.
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@hian not at all,the only reason Rudy was able to hit Hydra was because the cut neck didnt have the scales
@@luksalter8200
I mean, no? That's literally addressed in the episode. They state outright that magic will hit at close range.
You clearly see the barrier being something that activates several meters away from the body. It isn't the body that's repelling the magic.
Happy fathers day 😢
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The man god said he would regret it, and there were some positives here... :(
There one positive so far... Roxy is alive...
@@TheGenreVerse That uh, "greatly depends on your own point of view." - Obi wan Kenobi
Sorry if that makes you sad and/or confused.
"Nah man, the bartender got it worse than anybody." - Desperado
"so far"... Did you not see us freaking out a few weeks ago because we are constantly expecting the worst? 😆
This show is for pain what Classroom of the Elite is for suspicion!
(Just a joke ok) Freiren could solo or duo this hydra 😆
RIP Paul.. U were a Father who fought for the family till the end ❤
Frieren and Stark clear it in under 2min. Any takers? 😆
@@TheGenreVerse I agree 😆👍 she has lots n lots of battle experience and is so cunning n planned when it comes to fighting..
Rudy could probably do it too if he had 1000+ years to train and learn spells 😂
Excuses, excuses...
Damn they purposely released it on fathers day...😢
I think it will be explained in EDIT: waay later episode or season on what happened to zenith... but from what i remember...Spoilers i think..:
she has an ability to read minds that developed during her crystalized state... correct me if i'm wrong...telepathy...i dont know how to explain well but, she is somewhat in a dreamlike state, it's like she is talking in her dream but in our perspective, we see and hear her talk like mumbling or gone crazy...its like shes half awake...
Thanks for marking spoilers!
Fyi, the spoiler you wrote is revealed a lot later, not in the next episode. Just leaving this comment for future readers.
@@meliotablet yeah , sry about that... it's been so long and this is the somewhat i remember reading it... i dont even know if its accurate...it is only my understanding...so i might be wrong in explaining...
I understand that you mean no harm, however I suggest editing the original comment you made to "this will be explained WAY later, not in the next episode"
since there are people who'd happily read spoilers of upcoming episode but avoid spoilers from literally 2+ seasons away.
There is a chance they will skip this info too.
A lot of world building is skipped this season.
happy fathers day
Thanks
Happy Father's Day I guess 😢
😢 thank... you...
Guys have you watched cyberpunk edgerunners?
A chunk of it. Gotta finish it. Gonna actually restart it because it's been a long time.
@@TheGenreVerse maybe a react series?
man god told him he should not go
yeah... but for other reasons.
Yeah... But then Roxy may be the one dead instead.
I don't like that Zenith was naked. They should have just kept her clothes on. It's beautiful, but it does not match what occurred.
Sorry that it wasn't your thing...
You know... maybe staying home and make the cat girl your wife wasnt a bad idea after all...
Except then Roxy dies
Damn.... I mean....