CHEAP DIY AIR RIDE SEAT HACK + LANDSCAPE RAKING TRAILS 🚜👌
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Today we're at the property with just the 1025R. This subcompact does NOT provide the comfiest ride with the factory seat, but recently we saw a thread on Green Tractor Talk where someone tried a cheap product to try and provide extra cushion below their seat. We though we'd try it too, and tell you what we thought.
We also pulled out our Dirt Dog landscape rake and take a pass through the woods as well as clear off the debris where we need to till next for the gravel road we're putting in.
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Shouldn’t that bladder go between the seat and that plate? Positive it does.
I just got the 300lb Air shim yesterday to help lift up a fridge! Never thought I'd use it on the tractor... Thanks for the idea
Even though I have a suspension ride seat that is adjustable I still found the same problem after hours of use . My wife picked me up a gel filled seat cushion from a automotive parts supplier . It is about 1-1/2 thick and covers the whole seat and has a tab at the back too hold it too the seat . Well it is never coming off the tractor . It absorbs all shock and I never get a soar back or fatigue in my legs etc . Big difference 👍👍👍 Trails for just side by side cruising on I just bring all that branches and debris with no rocks too center of trail and mulch with the flail . Wood chips make a nice base . 👍
Haha, yet another use for the flail :)
I'm going to have to check out one of these gel filled cushions. I'm surprised they make a noticeable difference. Glad to hear it.
@@GoodWorksTractors while not used on a tractor I've got a gel filled cushion for my Harley for long rides. World of difference.
I could not tell how that seat system works but shouldn’t that bladder go between the seat and that plate with the two rubber snubbers? Seems like that metal pan is solid. Anyway just a question that popped into my head and wondered if I was missing something or did not understand how that seat is set up on the 1025R. Nice video as always. 👍🏼
Gotta publicly brag on y’all at Good Works Tractor. Ordered the 4215 grapple on a Saturday, it shipped on Monday from Michigan, arrived in Arkansas on Wednesday, put it together and was using it on Thursday. I’m very happy with everything on this purchase. Thanks again!!
I really enjoy learning these tips and tricks but also the reminder of the beauty around us outdoors was nice.
Man that Ace Ventura clip was perfect! Although in the woods i think a boxblade would fit "like a glove" with some suitcase weight on it.
I use a disc for my trails. Make a few passes then drag it to smooth out. Works good 👍
Don’t be in a hurry. Just go back and forth and lower the rake a little each time. Those rough spots will even out. Just bought a rake myself (King Kutter) and love it!
I have found putting the landscape rake at the most aggressive angle will move smaller debris into windrows as the tines will pull a path closer to each other. Also I’ve hung some suitcase weights on it when I want more aggressive action.
Go to the Dollar store and buy a swim noodle. Cut the noodle into pieces the same width as the seat base with seat flipped forward. Duct tape the noodle pieces in place. I saw this hack on a tractor forum.
You've helped a lot with my research on which tractor to buy. Bought one. I'm happy with it...but I think I probably appreciate this tune more than any of the great tractor advice. Thanks for that.
Watching you use the rake, I can see the hyd top and side links being very useful.
Most definitely!
My process for clearing up like that is my piranha tooth bar bucket and a box blade usually gets it all cleaned up and my backhoe to get the big rocks out and tree stumps
Yeah, that's a solid approach.
I got the 550 lb but burrito at the Home Depot today.🤑🤑 Works awesome!! 🤩🤩🤩 Did not bottom out once.. and didn't hurt my back. 😍I love it❤ STOP TELLING ME TO BUY THINGS LOL I seem to buy something every 5th video
You are living the Dream!!!
Haha, thanks! I'm blessed.
When you leave your keys inside your car you could slide that between the framed of the window and make an opening to get you car opened it works awesome .
It's sold as part of a lockout kit on Amazon. I had to get one when the battery on my prius died and I discovered that my manual door lock was not functional.
We used to call landscape rakes “York rakes “ by turning the rake slightly you’ll get a little cutting effect
As to your Air ride solution, I bought a child's football and placed it directly under the seat of my 1025 JD. Not only does this cushion the ride immensely it pushes the seat upwards and forwards allowing me to reach the pedals without fatigue. Cheap and efficient it is. Enjoy your program a great deal. Learned a lot from you. Hope this is a little payback for what you have given me.
when it comes to dozer vs excavator, I would choose ex. You already have tractors for pushing/pulling, but a ex would allow you to dig. THe mini ex's are very handy versatile machines.
Very true...I've been leaning that way as well.
I have a couple tennis balls jammed under mine keeps it from bottoming out most the time
I have about 8-10 tennis balls under my seat. 250 lbs. and does not bottom out.
Built my trails with l3901 with box blade and a bobcat mini ex to help level the road (Camber). My land is not flat. Maintain with the rake or box blade depending on storm damage from creek flooding. Angle the rake and make wind rows then turn the rake 180 deg and push. You will be surprised by how much more you can push. Have fun out there it’s great therapy!
I'd love to see a video on the upgraded seat. I've read many discussions on that topic and would love to see some real world experience.
Growing up we would lower the air pressure in rear tires for softer ride. Angling the rake works with rock's they will roll out the side but sticks don't really work like you want.
After a forestry muncher cut my trails, I used the box blade a couple times. Since then I’ve just picked downfall off the trail and mowed a couple times a year. This year has been mowing more often as the poplars are really suckering due to the hot dry conditions.
I bought an Air Shim just to have it on hand for all of it’s uses. I love the ide. Thanks!
When I use my York rake I do not use the top link. I use a piece of chain instead. This way when you're going over rough terrain the your York rake is not digging in and making ruts.Just get 2 pear shaped quick links that your front and rear pins fit through,then you don't need a huge chain. In spots with real hard ground I added a few 25 pound dumbbell weights on top of rake.
I have Ken's upgraded seat springs and they work really well. I almost never feel it bottom out, unless I jump a ditch or go over a big rock. I'm 205 lbs-ish.
As mentioned by others, a child's football or a couple tennis balls do a great job of firming up the ride so it doesn't bottom out.
I've got to say that after years of operating a York rake (but rarely) I've never (intentionally) used one to push debris backward.
I could have left piles and come back at the end with a rotated rake to push them off to the side, but this seemed to do the trick okay.
You shouldn't push backwards unless you rotate the rake. That's the quickest way to bend or break tines.
I use an extra thick kneeling pad, to add height and comfort - to my very low Kubota seat.
Also handy to have, for an off-tractor seat - or even a kneeling pad.
I purchased a set of seat upgrade springs from BoltOnHooks and they worked great. Also purchased the differential lock-up pedal and, of course, a set of hooks. All were quality products and helped immensely.
Upgrade springs were ok for a short term, but after a break-in period, they were no better than the original.
Glad to hear it!
That's a bummer.
I used the grapple to make trails through the woods, followed by back dragging with the landscape rake, then spread clover & rye grass... then the "high speed beef" (deer) had plenty to chew on.
Growing up we used the landscape racks for when we would prepare a new law. after grading we would use the landscape rake on an angle and run it over the graded yard and it would put rocks in windrows to be picked up with a loader or shovel.
I’ve found that the rake is most suited to cleaning up after felling trees. There are some other tractor videos showing use after tilling. That likes like it might work better.
The rake really needs down pressure applied. Old Ford tractor I've used before didn't have the down pressure addition but used a spring assembly on the top link to absorb bumps/hits. This would allow you to put a nice weight on the rake to dig in. You could have the top link set long for pushing it into the ground or short for floating when raking field grass/leaves.
With the pressure you can use it in place of a box blade with the stingers even to dig through grass to level areas and it is great for smoothing out soil this way as well (like a back/box blade even).
Other than the narrow trail use, it's handy having the 1-2ft stick out for angling (you don't loose items to the middle of a path like you did in the video) and essentially sweeping the path from the middle to the sides.
I’m 215 lbs, tried the beefier springs and they didn’t help. I put two 3” inflatable pipe test plugs in my seat, worked well. They go in the same spot as your bladder, one on each side of the seat sense wire. But you do need a pressure source to inflate.
Interesting. I do like the convenience of the hand pump on this bladder.
Sorry, for those unfamiliar with the pipe test plugs, they have a bicycle type fill valve. Fill from your shop compressor and that’s it. No onboard air supply needed.
Trac seat. Direct bolt on to many tractors. I put one on each of my Ventracs. Amazing difference. Under $180 on Amazon
oh yes there is...I had an air ride seat put on my 1025r. I also have a cab installed on it. works great...why does everyone say it doesn't work. I must have the best dealer around I guess....I'll send you pictures if you like. works great!!!!!!!!
I always cleared mine from major brush first with the bush hog. Raked them with the rake, then tilled them, the. Raked them again to smooth out the fluff and the dirt.
I like it, I'm going to give the land plane a shot pretty soon.
You could try taking a couple lbs of air out of your rear tires to soften it up a bit. I feel with my rake when its angled, its more aggressive with how it rakes the ground, because essentially by angling it your taking the spaces between the tines and making them smaller.
Thinking out in California where I'm at a good sell would be using a land rake during off fire season to help clear underbrush. And a chain saw to buck up the tree limbs a good 15 feet. (Good fire insurance)
When I had my 1025, my back was always sore from the seat bottoming out. I put in a set of those heavy duty springs and it definitely made a difference! I'm not sure why John Deere doesn't put those in as standard equipment. Anyway, I would never use a 1025 again without them! I don't have to worry about that now because I replaced my 1025 with a 3046 with an air ride seat. It was worth the upcharge. And as far as using my landscape rake, I find that angling it works the best for me. Debris builds up, but then slides to the side and forms a windrow. It's almost like dirt coming off an angled back blade. You spend more of your time raking, and not as much clearing the jammed up debris that builds up on the rake. I use it to touch up my driveway, too. It's not as aggressive as a back blade or box blade and works fine for finishing. You're making great progress on your property! Love the videos!
You might try adding some weight to the rake, not alot, just enough to keep it on the ground.
I agree. When the surface is irregular or just too hard for the times to penetrate a couple hundred pounds of weight is a real help.
I take a couple of the 40 lb suitcase weights and put on the rake, helps tremendously with the down pressure.
I’ve got an x485 John Deere and I took the two hard rubber stops out that are rite under the seat between the seat and frame and put an inflatable ring used for butt issues and it works good I think noted quite a bit of improvement on the ride keep up the videos
On my trails …… I usually don’t worry about anything that I can’t drive over. :)
Haha, I may not after I get them in a little better shape to start with. The trails didn't exist a couple of weeks ago. Just want to get anything that could jam up in a CV joint out of the way.
@@GoodWorksTractors great channel …… great videos
Thank you!
One of my big concerns is leaving my equipment out on the property. It looks like you have several implements out there and I assume you also leave your tractor (tractors, lucky dog! lol) out there so do you have any concerns or take any extra steps to protect it from people with sticky fingers?
I've been using the air shim for a few months now and have noticed a better ride with less bottoming out.
I have a very arthritic back and neck. I use a gel pad for a wheelchair (20) and a back brace. Wow what a difference
Seems like a gel or seat pad of some kind is worth looking into!
It’s a work in progress. Keep hacking at it. Looking better already.
Slowly but surely! Thanks Marc :)
On our trails we use a box blade and take off all the top soil. The top soil comes in handy filling holes in the fields
Shouldn’t that bladder go between the seat and that plate?
Yes, anything you find that will help the ride on a 1025R please share with us. I'm a big boy and the seat bottoms out all the time. Hard on the old back. I got a RK rake. Not quick hitch compatible. Took it over to my buddy's, he cut the ends off and added 3 inches to each side. He had to do some other stuff to the top link but it's now quick hitch ready. Cool. Thanks for sharing.
How well do those mirrors work for ya??? Are they nice & solid with no movement??? Can they be seen clearly with your visual eyes with no vibration movement in your background????
Really good job with the root rake.
I tried a 3039R with an air ride seat for a few hours. I didn't think the ride was a good as the two pieces of pool noodles I have under the seat and the gel cushion on my 2038R
There is one advantage to the rake not being QH compatible. I can't rotate mine around 180° when it is mounted on the tractor.
Kens Bolton hooks springs worked really well and what I did was took the old springs Cut about an inch or so off of them from the top and set them right over the rubber bumpers sitting on top of the seat suspension for a double cushion works well
That rake did a great job! You did too Courtney!
Haha we're are quickly approaching hunting season. For years I dressed in camo, stayed as still and quiet as possible while I hung from a tree like nut. Don't get me wrong that works but if you want to see deer get a bush hog. I've have this hawk that has figured out that the food is plentiful behind the bush hog. He'll come down within 40 foot of the tractor and watches every round I make. I had a mockingbird do that with the lawnmower, I enjoy stuff like that.
I take the broken up debris with my grapples top side folded over driving backward and then flip it over and grapple it up and then take it to the burn pile. Your rear rake would work great to rake up into a pile and then grapple it to a burn pile for smaller debris.
Watching what that rake isn't doing I would use my box blade. It would be nice to have a float feature on the hitch. It sure works good on the front end loader.
Just a rake on my trails occasionally. Found it really does the trick after a while. If you find yourself rutting up an area get some free woodchips from a local tree company (or use chipdrop but that is not a guarantee) and add to those areas.
A section from an old farm drag does wonders
The angle works good for any area that has a lot of rocks. It will windrow them. Or if you are spreading gravel or soil, if you keep the rake full of material, it will fill the low areas and will send any excess material from high spots to the side for the next pass
I am curious about your tires. Did they help at all being steel belted vs. the bias tires that would normally come on the tractor?
I have a set of those upgraded springs they really do have quite a bit.
I’d go through with a box blade, fill in the low spots and try to get a slight crown in your trails.
Your rake looks like my Frontier 2072. I try to use it on my neighbor and I's beach. I have even added gage wheels. Once the rake starts down in the soft sand I can't get stopped or rake up before a hole is created. Thinking about a shorter and or hydraulic top link. I have a gen2 2025R.
I bottom out my seat springs when I sit down. I have seen air bags at Menards. Never entered my mind to use them in the seat.
I use a 72 land plane to keep things clean and rut free...😎😉
I keep my elec grapple on the front to move the debris ...😉😉😎
Haha, yeah, that will be my maintenance tool as well once dialed in. Need to get this debris out of the way first before grading :)
I’m not sure if it would fit but maybe the John Deere Optional Air-Ride Suspension Seat - BUC10601 that’s for the X700 series would work 🤷🏼♂️, pricey option compared to your burrito 😂😂🙋🏼♂️👍🏻
Angling the rake will winrow rocks very well. Not as good with brush and debris, but will do ok.
We just use sandy fill or wood chips get in contact with a local tree service you might be able to get tons of them for free or very cheap
that air bag seems like i good idea to help soften the ride. was wonder how well it held up ? got me thinking that after some use it just might start to wear and leak air
I think it’s looking good it’ll take time because you haven’t done it before so lots to clean off the roads
LOL. I have never seen those rakes do anything. Better off pulling an old piece of chain link fence.
Wonderful music Thank you
Do you have any drawings/sketches of how you plan to layout the property and what is your timing to build there?
I don’t know if you are trying to level it with the landscape rake but I had a thought. If you turn around the rake and make it a push rather then a pull. Might make a difference. Don’t know if it will work or not
I know this isn’t a cheap option but I put a x700 series air ride seat on my 1025r same seat mount and everything
I like the suggestion of the air bag modified seat. From your attempt to add it, it look like your location was incorrect. But getting it to stay in place will take some retainer, if above the area u put the bag. Thanks
Right now it's exactly where the springs are. You're thinking it should sit on top of the plate it's below?
@@GoodWorksTractors I needed to watch again from my computer. it was hard to tell if the air bag was pushing the plait up, to give more movement (travel).
One thing i noticed with a rake though is if u angle it it will kinda cut with the tooth edges and act like a sort of tiller with the top 1/4” of dirt and will build up and roll out the trailing side. I have become very attached to my rake for final grading.
Harley rake it after the debris is off. Then it’s flat and easy to maintain. Did it on my mile of trails.
Well a trail is a trail not a highway. I get same results as you did with the rake but did improve when I added some weight( log) on the rake. It was more aggressive and cleaned better. Left roots as they were since it is a trail!! However stumps were dug out with the excavator.
Wanna love the seat on your 1025 more? Spend time on a 1023e
Dummy me cheaped out and got the 1023E. I feel your pain.
Problem tow behind. Front of tractor goes up, the tow behind goes down. Rear wheels of tractor goes up, tow behind raises. If tractor is wallowing, the tow behind wallows. Best to have blade on front leveling ground for the tractor. Like maybe lowering the bucket to smooth it out as you go. Not dig, but level. Bucket fill in holes and take off high spots before the tractor tires get there.
As far as what to do on the trail..... if you have the money get a soil conditioner/pulverizer to make a few passes. I'm thinking an FAE or similar.
You can get a nice replacement seat even if you have to make your own brackets. A very nice suspension seat. Spring, hydraulic, or air. All of those will be available in that size most likely.
Like what seat ?
As a west coaster, the fuel load in there is disaster waiting to kappen. I would rent a skidsteer mulcher and grind all that debris a few inches into the dirt and smooth that in where the road was going thru. The rest of it would get broken down enough to at least keep any fire on the ground for a fair distance from the road.
Rocks will roll right out of the rake. If you're doing a rocky area, angle it so that all the rocks roll out to one side, then you don't have 2 trails behind you, just the one you can pick up on the next run
Put an air ride seat on that 1025r!!
If you could find a good suspension seat for the under 40 HP tractors, you couldn't keep them in stock I bet. Wish I could find a good option for my Kubota B3200 because after 2 hours of bush hogging, my back is killing me.
Have you ever tried the Pats Category 1 Premium 3 Point Quick Change Hitch with Bar? So far it has been working out great on my 1025R
If you’d throw that quick hitch away and get the Pats easy change you could be working and not sweating.
Just ordered a 500 lb shim to try out this idea
Do you like the tooth bar or the piranha, which should I buy ???
Personally I have been thinking about this for awhile. I have a sore Mountain Bike Shock that I am going to hook up. I am still working out the details but that was how I planned to control my seat and give myself a cushioned ride. Once I get it up and running I will post a Vid.
A box blade !
I wonder if a hydraulic top link would make it more effective?