Tractor Too Much for This Mulcher??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2021
- Tractor Time with Tim uses the John Deere 5075E on the Baumalight MP560 brush mulcher. Is this a good combination to clear small trees?
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Somehow it's very relaxing to watch this first thing in the morning. Good Sunday morning .
It's always good to see the progress on this project. I've been following it from day #1. Looking forward to seeing you mow this like a front lawn!
I appreciate all of the time and effort you and Christy put in to the videos.
I enjoyed seeing the big Brush Mulcher at the Tower project. It really does a nice job, and as you pointed out , leaves the soil in good shape for mowing and no debris to mess with. By the way, I continue to be amazed at how well the audio works in that wind. Impressive. Christy did a bang up job of capturing the action. Blessings to you.
Great video. Good demonstration. We have been doing a lot of land clearing ourselves. No easy method. I like what you’re doing.
Good job Tim, you are really getting that site cleaned up.
Tim and Christi, thank you for sharing. My dog and I enjoy our Sunday morning time watching your videos. She like to go out with me and "do some farmin'" around our property. I keep her safe though. Enjoy your day.
Give her a treat, Dale :-)
I sure could use an attachment like that for clearing the over growth bushes and vines along my fence lines. Especially since it mulches everything and I wouldn’t have all the brush to deal with. Thanks for another great video. Stay safe
Wow - that thing is a beast! I certainly understand your point about riding the clutch with an activity like that. Nice demonstration.
Thanks for showing these
Morning Tim.
What you might try with that combination is to use the loader with either the bucket or grapple to push over the saplings, then back into the debris with the mulcher.
Even high flow skid steers can be stalled running a forestry mulcher. It takes a lot of horse power to spin a 1800 pound drum.
Check out the tracked Prime Tech 175, on the small end to the Prime Tech 475 on the eats anything up to 24" in diameter.
Sure would be nice if you had a PTO on the front of the tractor. While you wouldn't have the visibility, you also wouldn't be looking over your shoulder. Still, for what you have, I'd be more than happy to own the Baumalight mulcher. This would be a nice way to create and maintain trails.
Wow, that’s one heck of a verse at the end! Thank you for sharing, and God Bless!
Yep. Tough verse.
Good video TTWT, thank you very much for the video. Much appreciated. Have a good day!
That mulcher is a beast.thank you for sharing
I have really enjoyed these videos great job.
That mulcher is BEAST! Nom-nom-nom... Im looking forward to "How To Tighten a Worn Slip Clutch", next time, on Tractor Time With Tim.
The mulcher does a nice job! I agree it would be a good feature if that bar can be hydraulically angled up and down.
Thanks for the up load . I think that this upload is going to the large side of your inventory.. from a little 1025 taking on the big jobs to now the big boy doing big boy jobs 😀
we have 400hp case 340 magumm the monster tractor with the mulcher
This Video gave me some very good information. Fecon is my nest stop.
I have found that skid steer mounted mulches work better for big jobs like this. Simply because of the agility and the fact you can tilt the mulcher so that like you mentioned that bar pushes down on the brush and feeds through.
Nice video and great setup!
The power reverser transmissions use a wet clutch and they can take allot of abuse so don't worry about riding the clutch while using the mulcher. I would also recommend a hydraulic top link to help draw in debris and get it mulched without plowing the ground.
Always a good job Tim.
Enjoyed the watch, Tim. I sure could use a mulcher like that but not the bucks. My tractor is a 59 hp with a 46 hp @ PTO. I'd be concerned with my clutch as you well mentioned. Have a fine Sunday. 👍🏽🙂
Watching you do this. I think having the bucket on and going forward would be easier! But I honestly don’t know.
Please do a video on that slip clutch. Would like to know how to set them up and tighten. Should the clutch slip before the tractor stalls?
Another good clean up video 👍
Good to see ya' again Tim! Say hi to Jill and AL for me! 😆
These brush mulchers are so impressive. What's the PTO HP requirement for this model vs. The one you used before? Are the extra features available now on the smaller unit? Love your idea on the extra hydraulic feature. Project/attachment like this is what gives me pause for thought on a gear drive vs. HST.
I was thinking the exact same thing that it would be nice to be able to push the brush down with the big bar on top. Maybe it will be an update on a model to come.
I’m just wishing my X739 good luck running that thing with my rear 540 PTO, she won’t lol. but i just got a 42 hydraulic tiller for my machine, and i love it!!
Nice demonstration I wonder how this would work where the ground is not flat ? Ditches and banks ? It's quite bv a machine
That mulcher would be the perfect tool to tackle this bush honeysuckle we have here in S. Illinois. Nice machine!👍🏻👍🏻
The autum olive and woody honeysuckle around my place near Carbondale is really thick in some places. I wade into it with my Stihl pole saw and try to reclaim the pasture . Invasive species are a problem.
@@marclauzon1882 I have removed hundreds of acres for people on two separate farms with a chainsaw. It’s a constant battle that never ends
Good video Tim thanks
Love this videos and I have a suggestion for new video ideas this summer. Idk if y’all could but it would be cool to see some hay equipment on the channel.
We plan to do so.
Did you see our hay episodes last year?
Playlist is named ‘Making Hay’
I purchased a new John Deere 5045e for my grading, resloping clearing business. It was a beast of a Tractor and I loved it but transporting that Tractor and maneuvering it on residential ground was way too much. I sold it with less than 100 hours on it and bought an LS MT 240e. In my opinion a very nice Tractor. I’m wondering if you used a heavy duty cutter with this beast of a Tractor you might be better off? Nice video Tim Thanks for sharing.
Even with the compromise of the clutch it still looks like a very good tool to clear an unused or overgrown area.
Interesting! I am thinking best use of the tractor if you where wanting to do a decent amount of this would be the front loader mounted with PTO driven pump I don't like the clutch slipping bad wear point. I do recall you using one but not sure where on the time line it falls lol. Good video
I was thinking about making a comment that the push bar should be hydraulic as well just before you said it. Especially in this application. Great video guys. You two are very much in sync with what you are saying and Christy picking up on it with the camera work.
We were in a phone call :-)
Thanks Christy and Tim, those really are the "tall cedars of Lebanon".
Yes they are!!
Tim, every time that smoke rolled I died a little! The mechanic in me is screaming at you now! Tighten that clutch!
Baumalight also makes a rotary cutter called a Baumalight CP572. It will cut 4” and larger trees. They recently announced an option for a tailwheel which bolts on if needed. This makes it a formidable tool and a little more versatile. I like the finished cut of this unit, nice and smooth, no stubs. If you have a tractor, the 572 gives you a rotary cutter for mowing and a brush cutter for land clearing. Are you dtill using this or was it a demo? My neck is sore for two days after looking backwards all day. Thanks for the fun and informative videos.
Nice video Tim! I am curious if you have tried lifting the mulcher after you back into the pile and it stops the tractor? Then, after lifting, back in a little more and slowly lower your implement mulching downward and I think it would keep the ends lined up so as you continue to back up, it will continue to eat and suck those branches in. Love watching tractors in action!!
when tractor gets bogged down, there is no more 'lifting'.
I think you would find that lowering the angle of that arm would induce several problems, one being that your implement would wind up being "lifted" by brush you are trying to mulch, which would cause undue strain on your attachment points and also lift the tractor off the ground causing loss of traction and possibly tipover. I am pretty certain the engineers put the rake on that guard at maximum safe angle to avoid such occurrences.
As you were saying, take it slow, use multiple "bites" - go in high until you get pushback, then go low on second bite. Hydro trans would be better for that than having to clutch and shift F&R so much.
Also, might need a "BaumaHeavy" for such thick stuff.😉
Great channel.
Nice to see the 5E again.:)
You should try a 5R I was in on the other day that transmission is awesome
Great video Tim 🚜
Tim you should try a forestry tiller/mulcher
I like the idea in theory because you could eliminate haul away entirely for certain projects. I’d like to see the feasibility of that
Hey Tim. I think it its supposed to be opened while backing into the pile then closed going forward to fine mulch. Im not an expert but I think that's the way I've seen it done...
That looks like fun.
This was worth the wait since last year. I think you showed a huge benefit to the hydrostatic transmission. It's just amazing to see what this mulcher can do along with it's smaller counterpart. Think Baumalight will take you up on your suggestion to have the push bar hydraulically controlled?
How much does this Mulcher cost?
My neck aches from sleeping wrong...not sure I could do this for 5 minutes.
that thing is awesome!!!!!
This looks great. Thinking about this mulcher for ou 4066r. Weve got power beyond for the backhoe but do you need to add a rear control valve to operate the door?
You do need a rear control valve.
Different from Power Beyond.
Hello Tim, I used the front end loader on my Kubota 3301L to dig up all the brush (primarily juniper and sage) on my 5.5 acres, piled it up and then burnt it. The ashes are good for the soil as well versus mulching that will take several years to decay to the point where plants can actually use it. Just a thought. The mulcher was interesting though. Cheers
You would be surprised. The areas we mulched last year don’t show much wood on the ground at all. The grass has overtaken it.
A cylinder in place of your top link would kind of give you that control to tilt the brush bar down. Not exactly the functionality what you want, but close.
Would a hydraulic top link help push that top bar over if not equiped with hydraulics to move it individually?
Tim Christi that machine eats brush like mowing a lawn wish we were there to see and hear it in action
God Bless All
PaK
Tim you really put that to the test
All the baumalight equipment look like top quality super heavy duty stuff...
Great video tim ur weak spot is the tractor u need a cvx transmision at ease for that in forestry here in ireland we use valtra tractors mostly because u can get rear steer on them and on the high end mulchers u can move the big bar down to feed the scrub in but thats not a bad mulcher you have just not the rite tractor
Hi Friends Blessed Sunday love from TEXAS
Always appreciate your comments, Tina! Thanks for watching!
The idea of the door on the mulcher is leave it open when backing up to the brush to allow it to feed and move it through the head so it doesnt stall, then when you are finished the pass you close it to mulch the downed debris...its a similar technique for the ones that go on the excavators.
Tim if you got a hydraulic top link for he tractor you could have the same effect of pushing stuff over
You mentioned having the arm hydraulically controlled but from the units I have seen most are attached by skid steer mounts, so with the solid arm and the bucket tilt function, that takes care of all the arm movements needed and would seem stronger than a hydraulic lever actuated arm because you now have the weight of the implement helping lower the tall brush. Pity about the slip clutch acting up but waaaaaay better than a shear pin. But great test of the implement, definitely put it to the test!
...but this is on a tractor :-).
Yep, totally understand and for that, you need a hydraulically controlled arm. Soooo, you were right, I was... less right. 😆😆🤣🤣🤣
Like how that tooth bar works Kinda wish they offered that tooth set up, door & chains in the smaller one.
I might be interested
i asked about that when we first got the larger one. They said that these changes would raise the price of the smaller one up to nearly the same as the larger one. Those carbide teeth are expensive!
Great video
Tim, Would it be possible to change the black push bar mounts where it attaches to the sides so it's forward more, or maybe bolt on a bar that sticks out farther ?
Funny how I could smell that clutch ship
I had a 3pt blower on a NH TT60A for a season. It took a ton of life off the clutch to be slipping at rated RPMs to go slower backwards. If I can’t run clutch out fully on an implement now, I get a different tractor. They just need more rear gear speeds on utility tractors.
Watching and listening to what you thought would work better, and it looks like this kind of mulcher would be better served on a front mounted skid steer , you could even raise the mulcher higher when going into the brush and then lowering it onto the stump to further grind it ,and that black bar is probably not for pushing but so the tree doesn't come back on your machine , Great mulcher though ,enjoyed you insight and commentary .
i'm not sure what brand it was, but i have seen brush cutters simular to yours with hydraulics on that upper push bar, but this has been awhile ago, and the machine may have been larger than your, but that would make a good TTWT video "modification of the brush cutter"
I would love to see more videos with this tool. Also overall witch do you think is more useful the big one or the small one
We have LOTS of episodes with the smaller one. I think one other episode with this larger one.
Does a good job but I'd wake up in the morning with a creak in my neck from constantly looking back.
The gates for if you want to shoot your chips out or keep it all contained. On other mulcher heads that bar does come down. Check out vbelt and SON on you tube in northern California. They do logging and mulching.
Looks like fun! Can you attack the trees with the mulcher raised up fully for the first pass? I’m assuming that it can be raised more than you were doing during the video.
I was nervous about the angle of the PTO shaft when fully raised.
I wondered if that was the issue.
@@TractorTimewithTim hard to believe the pump will keep up with that mulcher 🤔
@@bustersmith5569 I don’t think there is a pump. It is direct driven by the PTO not hydraulic.
Love the destruction videos!
I like it 👍
Morning Tim
I think the 4066R would be perfect with that chopper !!
With such a heavy tractor, I wonder if it would be easier to knock the trees down with a front end attachment and mulch that from the ground. especially since you can't really lift the mulcher as high, like on a skid steer or an excavator mulcher.
I own a seppi m offset mulcher. It can tackle up to 4inches in diameter. The huge advantage is you can rase it and turn it 90 degree off the ground. It chew the small branches then you lay it flat to the ground and tackle the trunk. Also. You drive forward with it... you should try one of them. Flail hammer style.
I wonder how that differs from the offset flail mower Tim has?
@@paulkleinschmit9871 it’s basically the same machine. But the flail hammers allow to chew much bigger trunks. Also it need to be driven by at least 60hp
Yep is old farmers could get the work done just gotta use your head and the equipment you have I been cleaning up about 5 acres of raspberries and cottonwood trees and all I got is a small chainsaw and a old jd 4200 with a loader and my 2 hands with couple hundred tree stumps now rotting away soon to have a nice new area all cleaned up
Tim, would it be possible to mount that on the front of your tractor? Are there attachments that would make that possible. Love the vids. My back hurts just watching.
One would have to buy a hydraulic power pack driven by the rear PTO...and route hoses all the way to the front of the machine.
Good video as always. Tim what about front mounted 3 point hitches. I know they are not as popular in the states as maybe Germany. Where yall visited. I just wonder if it would be as good or even better than in the rear. Just a thought and was wondering if you have an opinion about that.
Nearly impossible to get here..and crazy expensive.
@@TractorTimewithTim I was wondering that. Well that's good to know then. Thank you.
Does that 5057e have the option of setting your raise and lower hitch height like larger tractors seem to have?
That way you could set the raise height so you aren't worried about driveline damage and your lower height so the mulcher in on the ground or just off of the ground and just toggle between the two settings when working.
To Tim 👍🇺🇲 Why not have on front of the tractor that you would have dual system set up just an idea could a system work as I have mentioned?
Peter from Australia 👍🇦🇺
No way to power it without external (expensive) power pack
Ok thank you Tim 👍🇺🇲 for your Quick reply absolutely like the program thank you 👍🇦🇺
could you try this one on a 4052R thank you
Good Morning Tractor Time with Tim. Would you ever try the skid steer one in the future.
Yes, but have not had the opportunity.
So i am curious tim. Would that size mulcher work on a 42hp cat1 hitch with a hydrostatic transmission? Or would you have to stick with the 348 or 360 models?
Use the 348.
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Just received my first samples today. But yes, I suspect they are right.
Hi Tim, Mulcher from FAE and Tractor with Power 300 plus, varios gear, ... anything else as you told is playground
Whatever.
Seems like I’m getting both job done.
Good Morning Tim, Just out of curiosity would a 4066M or 4066R be enough tractor for the larger mulcher? The hydrostatic transmission would definitely be better, just wasn't sure if it would have enough horsepower. Have a great day!
The problem is 3pt hitch size. 4R and 4M have cat 1 3 pt. 4M HD has cat 2.
This mulcher needs cat 2.
I can see what you mean about the arm would help to knock stuff down. I can also see the potential for bent cylinders in doing so
What kind of a drone do you have for video? That last shot looks like it handled the wind fairly well.
Magic pro 2
I think you need to lift the cutter about a foot or two above the ground, then let it down as you back up it to the large stuff. I think the cutter would be better able to handle the brush as your moving from small diameter to larger size.
To lcd monitors would work good with two rear facing cameras
At any point was it considered to drive over the stuff with the loader and either mulch it then and there or back over it later?
Too big to drive over.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you for the clarification.
Need some spy glasses with the mirrors in them so you can just look forward. Haha
How do you think the MP560 would work on grinding pine stumps in the 8"-10" range to 1" below grade with a 75 HP John Deere 5075E? I am having 3 acres of pine forest timbered. I was wondering if I cut the pine stumps with my chain saw to ground level, would the MP560 be able to grind the remaining stump to 1" below ground level?
It works. However, the gear drive aspect of the 5075e is not good. A hydrostatic tractor is much more effective.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you! Do you think the Power Reverser transmission would be effective?
@@marclambert2936 yes, you’ll do a lot of reverse and forward ..but the 12/12 (which I have) is just too fast, even in low gear. Remember, you need to run wide open throttle.
@@TractorTimewithTim Very helpful! Thank you.