Israel mod gets updated (v3), Total War Pharaoh Dynasties

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  • @12zxgglol
    @12zxgglol หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    They should start as a stateless faction, and then start conquering the region. It's just really weird that they start with אשקלון which was one of the last Canaanite cities to be conquered

    • @Kendji-the-Great
      @Kendji-the-Great  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you go by the bible yes. See The Land of Canaan in the Late Bronze Age edited by Grabbe for more on the connection between Ashkelon and Israel, p59-72.

  • @Vileurple
    @Vileurple หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dropping a first 10 turns playthrough of this today to help showcase both your great work. Will totally be playing more of this. Nice work!

    • @Kendji-the-Great
      @Kendji-the-Great  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's awsome! Gosh, blushing, thank you! :)

  • @SockAccount111
    @SockAccount111 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    is the mechanic where the US gives them 5 billion dollars free of change each turn implement yet?

    • @kaleidoscope3234
      @kaleidoscope3234 หลายเดือนก่อน

      USA only existed 4000 years later.

    • @davidr.9824
      @davidr.9824 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Open a history book 9head

    • @NotoriusMaximus
      @NotoriusMaximus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No because if there were no Hebrews, no US and the west

    • @renatopereira2315
      @renatopereira2315 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@NotoriusMaximus *Laughs copiously in greek and latin*

    • @psycomutt
      @psycomutt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@NotoriusMaximusLol what? Israel didn't become a thing until the US was already a superpower. The Romans and basically all of medieval Europe got along fine without them to the point that everybody (100s of different states, people and religions across thousands of years) kept throwing them out.

  • @Day_Chap
    @Day_Chap หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Unpopular opinion. The Habiru are the Hebrews/ Israel and they should be made playable with an objective to capture Canaan.

    • @andalusianstockmarket6284
      @andalusianstockmarket6284 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what makes you think that explain

    • @benjaminrobertson2990
      @benjaminrobertson2990 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andalusianstockmarket6284 bad historiography from a history channel show, if i'm guessing his source right

  • @user-xk5gh5pr4i
    @user-xk5gh5pr4i หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Should have made their only deity to be YHWH

    • @euf3444
      @euf3444 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe make it like in imperator, where you choose your favorite patriarchs (such as Abraham, and I know in imperator is prophets, but we don’t have those yet) and they give buffs

  • @HypervoxelRBX
    @HypervoxelRBX หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Israel deserves to be featured in the base game, it’s perfect for Joshua’s invasion of Canaan

    • @user-ew8wq4fj3g
      @user-ew8wq4fj3g หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah, as an israeli i'd not want that. because whatever people would see in game would think that of reality and i think this would be disrespectful

    • @HypervoxelRBX
      @HypervoxelRBX หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@user-ew8wq4fj3g nah Israel deserves to be in the game because it’s an accurate re telling of history plus they’re important in the Bronze Age and beyond the collapse. Why would you not want game play with the tribes of Israel ?

  • @infantryblack
    @infantryblack หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I can not understand how they could put this out with out the Israel people

    • @davehas12
      @davehas12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      CA are racists

  • @Ebenecel
    @Ebenecel หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really appreciate the job done. It would be really cool if they started as a nomadic tribe in Sinai. Like that the conquest would be the main goal of the campaign. The court system could be built around the tribes. The levant is the only major area of the game without one

    • @Kendji-the-Great
      @Kendji-the-Great  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In biblical story telling narrative, yeah. But there are those who research a more historical approach who see a link on the Merneptah Stele and other such, between Ashkelon and Israel being destroyed in the same event.

    • @Ebenecel
      @Ebenecel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kendji-the-Great That's right. It's cool you did it your way. This time period is very mythological

    • @NeedSomeNuance
      @NeedSomeNuance หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just subscribed, super looking forward to getting into it

  • @filipzietek5146
    @filipzietek5146 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fantasy mod

  • @teddyGros
    @teddyGros หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Truth be told the Kingdom of Israel first description seems to have come about 200 years after the events of the game, though you can tell that the Canaanites are the proto Israelites by a few hints. For example the Canaan god of the sea Yam is literally the Hebrew word for sea. The god El is the word for god and used as description for THE god without saying his name.

    • @NotoriusMaximus
      @NotoriusMaximus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its the same language because Hebrews are from Caanan, same culture different religion and tribes

    • @andalusianstockmarket6284
      @andalusianstockmarket6284 หลายเดือนก่อน

      False kaananites are hamites african in origin and Israelis are Semites , they are 2 different people.

    • @user-pi6oc4st4f
      @user-pi6oc4st4f หลายเดือนก่อน

      Game set is in 12 century? Israel already exists, Stella of Merneptah

  • @NeedSomeNuance
    @NeedSomeNuance หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is the mod on the workshop yet? What’s it called?

  • @user-ew8wq4fj3g
    @user-ew8wq4fj3g หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, I'm Jewish and I know a lot about Jewish and Hebrew history, culture, and more. I can help you with a lot of stuff like transliteration from Hebrew. like the names of the units and etc, weapons that were used at every certain period by the Hebrews/Israelites

    • @user-ew8wq4fj3g
      @user-ew8wq4fj3g หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd like to chat in discord or something

  • @andalusianstockmarket6284
    @andalusianstockmarket6284 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a Muslim I can only play the game with Israel so huge thanks. I cannot play with the idol gods , as its strictly forbidden to honor other gods.
    But I can happily play with Israel as they honored and worshiped the God of Abraham. Moses Yoshua and David were also my favourite Prophets and historical figures besides Abraham Christ and Mohamed. Huge thanks.

    • @euf3444
      @euf3444 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, same from a Christian, I don’t really like building shrines for false gods, even if it’s just a game, so if they could introduce the actual Lord that would be awesome,

    • @andalusianstockmarket6284
      @andalusianstockmarket6284 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@euf3444 lol , what I used to do in Rome II is I build temples for Zeus who was the supreme God of Heaven according to the Greeks and is still called Theus today when they talk about God , and I imagined Greece being a ancient God believing nation , or I skipped the temples alltogether and still won on legendary.

    • @euf3444
      @euf3444 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andalusianstockmarket6284 legendary + no temples seems tough as fuck ngl

    • @renatopereira2315
      @renatopereira2315 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andalusianstockmarket6284 you think building a temple to a god in a game matters ? Bro the shit people put themselves through because of imaginary men in the sky

  • @Silverhand9
    @Silverhand9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Israel founded in 1948

    • @Alkron1
      @Alkron1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Israel was a nation during this time 💀

    • @Wrzerq
      @Wrzerq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Climb back onto your camel and get lost.

    • @Robin-sf3gk
      @Robin-sf3gk หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Germany is founded in 1949 yet the germans are multiple milenias old and the german idea since the early medeival era. The republic of China is also from 1949 yet the chinese are from bronce age just like Israel

    • @karstenkunneman5219
      @karstenkunneman5219 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The modern state, yes. But the Jews were a real ancient tribe

    • @davehas12
      @davehas12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh ffs
      Merneptah recorded a campaign against “ISRAEL”
      There’s a 3m block of granite in the Cairo Museum !!

  • @janos82
    @janos82 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Israwhat?

  • @serek_heterogenizowany
    @serek_heterogenizowany หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meh.

  • @IceBreaker.22
    @IceBreaker.22 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need the "liar and thief" trait for the jews.

  • @Whatsuppbuddies
    @Whatsuppbuddies หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the point of this, isnt there already El?

    • @Kendji-the-Great
      @Kendji-the-Great  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you watch enough you'll see El is taken into account ;)

    • @davehas12
      @davehas12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      El is the generic Amorite word for god.
      Sometime they employed it for their Chief Deity

  • @AbdullahAburob24
    @AbdullahAburob24 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They had to mod it cos it didnt exist in real life 🤣

    • @Byz_enjoyer
      @Byz_enjoyer หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      someones in denail

    • @AbdullahAburob24
      @AbdullahAburob24 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Byz_enjoyer go study history

    • @Byz_enjoyer
      @Byz_enjoyer หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AbdullahAburob24 i think you need to, youve been blinded too much by islamic propaganda

    • @user-pi6oc4st4f
      @user-pi6oc4st4f หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read your trash Quran and you will see name Israel. In fact Muslim scam you have name Izrail taken from Jews.

    • @WulfAlpha
      @WulfAlpha 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AbdullahAburob24 Yeah? show us your historical resources please, ABDOOOOOOOL. :)

  • @WarHell22
    @WarHell22 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Palestine

    • @Alkron1
      @Alkron1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Palestine was a name created by the Romans as a way to govern,

    • @tuatara2418
      @tuatara2418 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How could it be Palestine? The Romans renamed it from Judea much later.

    • @freezeurbuns99
      @freezeurbuns99 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arabstine. They have enough countries. They also come from the ARABian Peninsula, not Canaan and certainly not from Israel, Canaan, Palestine, or whatever you feel like calling it to try to steal another slice of land from another ethnic minority.

    • @Alkron1
      @Alkron1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tuatara2418 cause, it’s how they think, you can’t argue with them

    • @renatopereira2315
      @renatopereira2315 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tuatara2418 Im sorry what ? You are familiar with Herodotus yes ? He wrote in the 5th century BC and called the region in his book "The Histories" as "Palaestina".
      The greeks have always referred to that land as Palestine, the Romans merely took the name over later. We are talking about a 500+ year difference between the first attested mentions of Palestine in greek texts to the Romans conquering and renaming it to Palestine. So no the romans didnt invent the term

  • @hmada1222000
    @hmada1222000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Israel didn't exist during the Bronze edge Canaans owned the regios and they are the insistent of Palestinians, there is a reason why they don't exist in the Vanilla version

    • @robevans8629
      @robevans8629 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From what I researched a few months ago from what I remember there is a Stele in Sudan which mentions the Jews in some way by a well known pharoah like 200 years before the game starts.

    • @freezeurbuns99
      @freezeurbuns99 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Palestinians are Arabs, Arabs came from the ARABian Peninsula.

    • @davehas12
      @davehas12 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is factually false.
      Merneptah recorded a campaign against the Yaweh worshipping Hebrew / Habiru he called “ISRAEL”. There’s a 3m granite stela in the Cairo Museum !!

    • @robevans8629
      @robevans8629 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davehas12 truthfully I believe they were left out of the game by CA on purpose, I don't know maybe religious reasons? They would of had to add a mechanic which allows only one single faction to only allow 1 God.

    • @hmada1222000
      @hmada1222000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davehas12 Dude making up history doesn't make it real the Jews don't show up until the iron age and for very short period otherwise the region was dominated by Canaans.
      Lies don't create history enforcing false data will not make them real.
      Free Palestine

  • @davehas12
    @davehas12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I greatly admire your efforts .. but no one should be buying the game / supporting CA’s racist agenda
    Modding the game to make it less racist isn’t the solution.
    Boycott CA

    • @renatopereira2315
      @renatopereira2315 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      more like boycott Israel !
      And also the game is historically correct, no modern nationalist fan fiction needed

    • @psycomutt
      @psycomutt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Israel would be a small tribe in this time period though? They wouldn't be a major player in the region until much later.

    • @davehas12
      @davehas12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@psycomutt The Yaweh worshipping Hebrews caused major problems from the mid 14th C BCE in Canaan.
      Seti I, Amenhotep III and Merneptah all had campaigns against them.
      By 1140 BCE, Israel came to completely dominate Canaan (Dr Eric Cline, “After 1177”)

    • @davehas12
      @davehas12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@renatopereira2315 Sir, there is a huge 3m high bloke of granite in the Cairo Museum that states Pharoah Merneptah fought the Yaweh worshipping Hebrews he called “ISRAEL” .. in the game period / 1207 BCE.
      It’s got nothing to do with modern politics but if you’re religious, the Quran records Israel’s ancient existence over 600 times

    • @renatopereira2315
      @renatopereira2315 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davehas12 Bro just quoted the quran as historical proof