Man..... I was expecting another terrible explanation on breaking in subs. You on the other hand explained it great. I'm running skar right now but I'm getting ready to install a sundown u12 on a sfb-2000 and I'm understanding how I got to do this. Thanks man.
Yes the voice coils need to break in, and seat into the magnete, then the spider surround needs to flex alot to loosen up, just like the stiff surrounds ! Speaker break in is true heres how I know 100 percent ! I bought 2 sets of the Pioneer fs52s their cheap and sound amazing for price point, i used a set for a year on my home theater and kepted the other set put up for a year. once i brought the set out that was put up for a year I had both sets hooked to my Pioneer elite SX-N30 older ones on speaker A newer ones on speaker B and wow what a difference the broken in ones sounded much better !
My friend told me about this years ago & I finally said, "time to investigate" glad I did. I will no longer just jam out new speaker. After doing this, is it a good idea to do the same for the life of a speaker; Play low and after 5 min of driving get your desired volume.
Great video ... perfect for today as I just got in one SVS-PB1000. Plan to get another one next week but I was just wondering about this and boom - here is your vid :). sweet box!
Just got my 2 12 in h evl in the skar box. Been bumping a 12 evl and 1 12inch L7. I'm currently.using kicker 1800.1 class d mono amp, but I have the skar 4500 mono amp in the box new ready to be hooked up once it gets little warmer out.
It originally had carpet on it, I took it completely off obviously and sanded it lightly, spray painted it white then use painted tape to cover the entire box, drew my name and TH-cam logo over top of the painters tape and then used a box cuter to trace out the drawing then spray painted it black. Then took the paint and just splattered black everywhere
When i dont break them in…and ive been through about 8 different sub setups with 4 different boxes….i fry em everytime…break in is 100% necessary. When i dont they just lock up on me. My beginner days were rough😮💨
I dont understand why this is even a question. Either 1) speakers do need to break in because they change, in which case speaker and driver designers will know quantitative details because they will need to be considered at the design process, or 2) somehow you have to believe that speakers break in and designers do not consider this and somehow it always manages to make things sound better (which means they were not designed optimally in the first place), or 3) speakers dont need to be broken in. Id suggest 2 is unacceptable as an answer, so its 1 or 3. If 1, then why dont they just make it public and put this to rest?
You just need some music or test tones that wont bother you and let the speakers play. It needs to be loud enough to get the speakers moving so if you're not actually listening to something I recommend just playing a test tone under 20hz that will get your speakers moving but you cant actually hear it
Quick question: how do you play a test tone through your subs in a car without blowing up your door speakers? Because your using it off your head unit right?
You should have your crossovers set correctly that no bass that low is going to your doors. You can also just lower the volume of the doors or raise the sub
I just got some speaker and I didn't know that you jave to break them in and I blasted some really hard bass music at loudest for like an hour and then something started to smell what do you think it is
Typically, in car audio there is a bit of a burning glue smell. Not so much home audio. If you smell anything in home audio chances are you're frying something!
@@Kpaceguy thanks much! That's what I was looking for. I began burning in my woofers for a component set in my car, before install. After about a couple minute at 80 hertz, I started to smell some burning, I figured it was glue on the voicecoil or the thin varnish they coat the wire with. I just wanted to be certain. Appreciated!
20hz break in is dumb... 2 reasons.. they will never reproduce this frequencty.... 2 thats generating allot of hrat and using allot of power to do this.... might work for a few short intervals.. best idea is just play what you listen to with transitions
Just my opinion but I think break in is not something audible. at least in all the speakers I've ever owned. Maybe it's more relevant in car audio, with woofers with large spider surrounds, and extremely large xmax and qts numbers. My 2216nd drivers in my JBL are tight as a drum and barely move even at 100db SPL at 30hz. Your skar subs, whats their specs anyway?
@@Kpaceguy I'm sure they can get that loud around 30-50hz for sure. at one foot away :P loudest I ever put my JBL 4367 was a 118dB peak during the opening of day after tomorrow, the bass gets very low and loud at the beginning of that movie. car audio is a different beast from traditional home hifi audio for sure tho. my new mcintosh amp which is on the way, hopefully will be here soon... it has peak output of 1.8kW at which point it will be demanding 70amperes! kind of nuts!!! Will I ever own a speaker that would actually require that much power, probably not haha.
Willie Davis mine are -6dB at 30hz HOWEVER, JBL keeps things honest and lists anechoic measurements. My speakers are actually more like -3dB at 30hz. For a full range system that is all in one, that is amazing numbers. I don’t have the space for subs so this works out perfect for me. I will be sending kpsacwguy some detailed info and pics of my system at some point, currently just waiting for my new rack to get in from timbernation before I show my stuff off. In the mean time If you want to see pretty blue meters dancing check out my channel. I’ve also uploaded videos of previous gear I’ve owned in the past.
I just bought 2 EVL-12 4’s from SKAR , and I’m just having problems with them. They’re not banging as loud as I thought they would be, I have them wired to a 1 OHM final impedance and my amp is a HIFONICS ZRX3216.1D 3,200w so that’s around 1,600w per sub, those subs are capable of pushing that power. But I just can’t get any good bass from them... do you have a wiring diagram or something that can help me?!!! Or should I just let them “break in” because I’m just giving up at this point. I feel like the amp is broken or something
I had the same problem, the more I did research. I found out the EVL need to get broken in. I was ready to sell mine!! It’s been 3 days now and it’s 100 times better
Sorry. First time I have ever disagreed with you. I've been into to stereos for over 50 yrs. and this is just another theory that seems to be taking hold with the younger generation. I have owned probably 30 sets of speakers. Never broke them in. If they didn't sound good when I hooked them up - then I was looking for new speakers! BUT - I never bought speakers with out auditioning them in the show room. "Break in" wasn't even a term - even for the manufacturers! The term didn't even exist!!
One does seem to push while the other pulls, playing one tone through both subs, the should really be moving in unison. On camera one does look out of phase, but not all the time. Quite a strange one.
Man..... I was expecting another terrible explanation on breaking in subs. You on the other hand explained it great. I'm running skar right now but I'm getting ready to install a sundown u12 on a sfb-2000 and I'm understanding how I got to do this. Thanks man.
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching
Yes the voice coils need to break in, and seat into the magnete, then the spider surround needs to flex alot to loosen up, just like the stiff surrounds ! Speaker break in is true heres how I know 100 percent ! I bought 2 sets of the Pioneer fs52s their cheap and sound amazing for price point, i used a set for a year on my home theater and kepted the other set put up for a year. once i brought the set out that was put up for a year I had both sets hooked to my Pioneer elite SX-N30 older ones on speaker A newer ones on speaker B and wow what a difference the broken in ones sounded much better !
25yrs of car audio and home audio i definitely feel its best to run-in (break-in) the speakers at least for 2 weeks at first of regular use.
My friend told me about this years ago & I finally said, "time to investigate" glad I did. I will no longer just jam out new speaker. After doing this, is it a good idea to do the same for the life of a speaker; Play low and after 5 min of driving get your desired volume.
This is spot on for subs.another great video my friend.
I appreciate it
I’m actually getting my first set of speakers since my stock door speakers blew and wanted to know what I needed to do for my new ones the video helps
I got the skar tx65s
Great video ... perfect for today as I just got in one SVS-PB1000. Plan to get another one next week but I was just wondering about this and boom - here is your vid :). sweet box!
Thank you sir! Enjoy your new sub
Just got my 2 12 in h evl in the skar box. Been bumping a 12 evl and 1 12inch L7. I'm currently.using kicker 1800.1 class d mono amp, but I have the skar 4500 mono amp in the box new ready to be hooked up once it gets little warmer out.
thanks great clear concise video
Is it only me the two drivers are like vibrating out of phase.
the dude at the store turned up one of the speakers I was going to buy really loud and now one is louder than the other
So one is blown it sounds like
That sub box is very cool! How did you do that?
It originally had carpet on it, I took it completely off obviously and sanded it lightly, spray painted it white then use painted tape to cover the entire box, drew my name and TH-cam logo over top of the painters tape and then used a box cuter to trace out the drawing then spray painted it black. Then took the paint and just splattered black everywhere
When i dont break them in…and ive been through about 8 different sub setups with 4 different boxes….i fry em everytime…break in is 100% necessary. When i dont they just lock up on me. My beginner days were rough😮💨
I dont understand why this is even a question. Either 1) speakers do need to break in because they change, in which case speaker and driver designers will know quantitative details because they will need to be considered at the design process, or 2) somehow you have to believe that speakers break in and designers do not consider this and somehow it always manages to make things sound better (which means they were not designed optimally in the first place), or 3) speakers dont need to be broken in. Id suggest 2 is unacceptable as an answer, so its 1 or 3. If 1, then why dont they just make it public and put this to rest?
Some companies do mention it, like Klipsch or Arendal. Does that make it an undisputable fact? Who knows...
Klipsch says to play them louder than you’d normally play them during the break in period.
Seriously, that's what I read from their site. It makes sense to do what you said and play them lower, but that's what they said
Gradually increase and stay there when you have reached 'above listening levels'. Best of both worlds
Thanks man you really know your stuff it really helped me i appreciate it man i hope you doing well
Thank you my friend
Im breaking in my subs now I think its so the right thing to after spending 450.00 a sub
I believe in breaking in subwoofers and speakers it is definitely worth it
Facts
Is the Taramps smart 3 amplifier (3000w) to strong for 1 VXF 12 in a ported box ???
Not by much. Id be careful but it'll be fine
Larry R naww it isn’t to strong but don’t send it anymore than that and make sure you sending it an clean signal
How do you run a tone generator through a home theater subwoofer?
An app via Bluetooth or plug rca cables from phone to sub
So I can just play some drop bass type stuff at low volume right for hours like on 2 or 3
You just need some music or test tones that wont bother you and let the speakers play. It needs to be loud enough to get the speakers moving so if you're not actually listening to something I recommend just playing a test tone under 20hz that will get your speakers moving but you cant actually hear it
Great stuff, I recommend the same for mid range speakers for all the chuchero guys. Break Them in.
Quick question: how do you play a test tone through your subs in a car without blowing up your door speakers? Because your using it off your head unit right?
You should have your crossovers set correctly that no bass that low is going to your doors. You can also just lower the volume of the doors or raise the sub
@@Kpaceguy so I would be fine If i played a 40hz test tone to set the gains on the amp?
@@jeremyvillegas572 correct
I just got some speaker and I didn't know that you jave to break them in and I blasted some really hard bass music at loudest for like an hour and then something started to smell what do you think it is
Could be the glue . Or you could of burned the coil
@@Kpaceguy can i ask, what is the cool
Sorry I meant coil
@@Kpaceguy oh ok so lets hope its the glue, thx btw
@@gk-de5gb what was it
I see you got another rp2000 cool I have the one in got from you very nice amp Im running 2 dc audio level 4 12s soooo nice man
Will there be a slight burning smell from the speaker?
Typically, in car audio there is a bit of a burning glue smell. Not so much home audio. If you smell anything in home audio chances are you're frying something!
@@Kpaceguy thanks much! That's what I was looking for. I began burning in my woofers for a component set in my car, before install. After about a couple minute at 80 hertz, I started to smell some burning, I figured it was glue on the voicecoil or the thin varnish they coat the wire with. I just wanted to be certain. Appreciated!
How long do you think it would take for a single 12 inch Memphis powered sub take
24 listening hrs
20hz break in is dumb... 2 reasons.. they will never reproduce this frequencty.... 2 thats generating allot of hrat and using allot of power to do this.... might work for a few short intervals.. best idea is just play what you listen to with transitions
Just my opinion but I think break in is not something audible. at least in all the speakers I've ever owned. Maybe it's more relevant in car audio, with woofers with large spider surrounds, and extremely large xmax and qts numbers. My 2216nd drivers in my JBL are tight as a drum and barely move even at 100db SPL at 30hz. Your skar subs, whats their specs anyway?
With the few days I've had them they're giving something in the 140s db at RIDICULOUS lows. Its pretty legit
@@Kpaceguy I'm sure they can get that loud around 30-50hz for sure. at one foot away :P loudest I ever put my JBL 4367 was a 118dB peak during the opening of day after tomorrow, the bass gets very low and loud at the beginning of that movie. car audio is a different beast from traditional home hifi audio for sure tho.
my new mcintosh amp which is on the way, hopefully will be here soon... it has peak output of 1.8kW at which point it will be demanding 70amperes! kind of nuts!!! Will I ever own a speaker that would actually require that much power, probably not haha.
Specs on the subs ?
Willie Davis mine are -6dB at 30hz HOWEVER, JBL keeps things honest and lists anechoic measurements. My speakers are actually more like -3dB at 30hz. For a full range system that is all in one, that is amazing numbers. I don’t have the space for subs so this works out perfect for me. I will be sending kpsacwguy some detailed info and pics of my system at some point, currently just waiting for my new rack to get in from timbernation before I show my stuff off. In the mean time If you want to see pretty blue meters dancing check out my channel. I’ve also uploaded videos of previous gear I’ve owned in the past.
why wouldnt you listen to them while driving it sounds sooothing
i thought subs like that go lower than 20hz
Does it apply to studio monitor speakers as well?
Every speaker
@@Kpaceguy Alright! Thanks for responding
Hey bro.. how can i get the sound you using to Break In my Speakers.. where can I download it from or what is the name of the sound ????
You can download a frequency generator on your phone and Bluetooth it to your receiver
@@Kpaceguy Okay I will check it out now
I just bought 2 EVL-12 4’s from SKAR , and I’m just having problems with them. They’re not banging as loud as I thought they would be, I have them wired to a 1 OHM final impedance and my amp is a HIFONICS ZRX3216.1D 3,200w so that’s around 1,600w per sub, those subs are capable of pushing that power. But I just can’t get any good bass from them... do you have a wiring diagram or something that can help me?!!! Or should I just let them “break in” because I’m just giving up at this point. I feel like the amp is broken or something
What box?
Kpaceguy uhmm it’s kind of like the SKAR audio box they have, it’s just a big box that’s ported with the audio port in the middle
Kpaceguy I just uploaded a video on the problem, can you take a look at it and possibly tell me what’s wrong?
I had the same problem, the more I did research. I found out the EVL need to get broken in. I was ready to sell mine!! It’s been 3 days now and it’s 100 times better
Breaking in speakers pshhhh turn that shit up
Whut is better sounding for movies Polk s55 ore paradigm 6000f
Hard to say. Prob the s55 with their overall frequency response. Paradigm probably the better overall speaker
So the paradigm then?
I game a lot to and listen to hip hop
@@thomassiegers3007 definitely polks
Why Polk Whut make it better
Sorry. First time I have ever disagreed with you. I've been into to stereos for over 50 yrs. and this is just another theory that seems to be taking hold with the younger generation. I have owned probably 30 sets of speakers. Never broke them in. If they didn't sound good when I hooked them up - then I was looking for new speakers! BUT - I never bought speakers with out auditioning them in the show room. "Break in" wasn't even a term - even for the manufacturers!
The term didn't even exist!!
That's pretty interesting! I know it definitely exists in car audio. I found out first hand with the evls
@@Kpaceguy Maybe car subs. But I don't think it affects home speakers.
@@lesmatthews459 it may or may not. It really becomes apparent for me at high volume levels which most people don't reach
Well in this new generation there are some crazy 5000watt rms subs lol. Not like the old days with pioneer 125 watt 12s
@@jeremyvillegas572 Ya -guess you're right.
This guy literally said the same thing over and over and over and over again 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some people need it to stick
Uuuuu wiiiiii you got the new subs on can you feel the difference
Bro at the same volume and power level it's a huge difference already
@@Kpaceguy yeah I bet they look nice and beefier so how much you sold your old ones for
@@betotheboss8469 selling them both for 175 plus shipping
Those two speakers appear to be out of phase.
Naww they not
It did look like it on camera when I was watching but everything was set right after I checked
@@bassbrother101 Take a closer look -- assuming you know what being in or out of phase means.
One does seem to push while the other pulls, playing one tone through both subs, the should really be moving in unison. On camera one does look out of phase, but not all the time. Quite a strange one.
It's rubbish