Why I'm NOT Going to the Woodstock Fruit Festival - I wasn't BANNED
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- John from www.okraw.com/ shares with you why he is NOT going to the Woodstock Fruit Festival in 2016. I apolgize to all my fans that were looking forward to me being there.
In this episode, John shares the story on how his video titled, "Woodstock Fruit Festival Serves Poor Quality Fruit to Attendees ?"
Upset some people and shares the reaction of Michael Arnstein who founded the Woodstock Fruit Festival. Michael Arnstein is responsible for the financial aspects of the event with his money if the event does not cover its cost. Michael Arnstein generously volunteers his time to make the event happen. Basically, Michael Arnstein runs the event, in my opinion.
John will read you the email that he recieved from Michael Arnstein a few days after he posted his last video.
John will then read you an email that he sent to other presenters at the Woodstock Fruit Festival to let them know what is going on and to help get support.
John will then read you the letter he wrote to Michael Arnstein to help correct this big misunderstanding.
Finally, John will read part of the email that he recieved back from Michael Arnstein regarding this situation.
Watch the video that caused this situation at:
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Hey John, don't let this crap get to you. Mike A excommunicated me, too, and I am happy to be out of his loop. I and the other true rawfood pioneers including you put on 3 Rawstock festivals and 2 Raw Passion Jamborees in California 11-16 years ago and they were the best ever with farm-fresh, ripe organic fruits, and you were one of the teachers and that was golden. Keep on telling the RAW TRUTH at every opportunity and don't let petty, immature crap get in your way, brother. TRUTH is STRENGTH. You are a saint! ♥ Dave
Thanks David for standing behind the values that you share with John. Maybe you guys would consider doing an event together with other Raw People that share your values.
Thanks for the words of support, dave. RawStock festivals - Those were the DAYS! What a real fruit festival should be about!
Thanks, Gerhard. Those events are awesome but incredibly time consuming and financially risky. I wanted to do a raw food event here on Maui with lots of fresh durians, but they are hard to get and the turnout too uncertain. Maybe some day! John would be a main speaker. We have been buddies for 20 years and he has been most generous.
Right on, John! ♥
Thanks David, I know what it takes to put on an event. In the end it is the passion and the team that matters. Everything else will show up. Always striving to be part of the solution. For others though that can be seen too as being a part of their problem as they have different values. Looks like WFF has different values??? or they might have changed their values..... ? It was their choice to dispose John.
Ego driven people can't handle constructive criticism. Their loss.
Drama is not worth your precious energy. Start your own event.
That goes for all vegans and nonvegans.
taoist40
Precisely.
Black Sphinx
If you truly believe that, you're incapable of having healthy relationships. Expecting close ones to agree with you all the time and lie when they disagree is not empathetic, it's deceitful.
Black Sphinx, the people you collude with to do videos not only lack empathy, they are actually malicious.
Good idea 🎉 👍💡
John man you're doing really amazing things for humanity, dont ever doubt it, its fuckin inspirational! You are on point with your perspective on reality brother.
And you've helped me learn heaps about gardening!
agreed dude! he's my guru! lol
+HF TL yeah same shit tons he's such a nice guy I love him because he does things to make humanity better and doesn't live just for pleasure he lives for knowledge love and other qualities.
I was only interested in the Woodstock BECAUSE of John Kohler.
John you are an essential person that the world needs. The world doesn't need more settlers who are fine with low nutrient, homogenized, poor quality food. Those people who react aggressively and vengefully still have a lot of work to do on themselves and their toxicity reflects outwardly. You are a bit ahead of your time as far as most peoples understanding of what high quality foods are. Keep pushing the standards for growing the highest quality foods. Try not to focus on those who shoot down what you are doing and remember you have a large support group of people who appreciate what you do, and an even larger group of people who depend on the work you're currently doing to help get us out of the place were in and bring back highly nutrient dense foods.
Thanks Detox Warrior, very well put. I especially like the larger group of people depending on people like John that are not yet aware of what John is doing, but will in the long run benefit from it.
so sorry to hear about this john! we're with you on this!
Don't apologize for that video John and I hope you will make the video public again. You did nothing wrong. I found that video very helpful and informational. It's completely their loss and their snide response to your video is very telling. You're videos and knowledge are invaluable and you did everyone a great service showing people that we need to raise our standards when it comes to the food supply. keep up your terrific activism.
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I agree
In trying to make this situation right, I temporarily made the video private. (as stated in the letter I read in this video) After hearing his response, I thought it even more important to make the video viewable once again. It can be viewed at:
th-cam.com/video/-vaVHuEBFAc/w-d-xo.html
I encourage everyone to watch it.
terrific. thanks John!
Great, John! Thank you for all your hard work. Just move on...that man is too touchy about the whole matter.
Look man,,, I am a fat guy that got inspired by YOU, I went out and got a tribest juicer because of YOU to save my life which is going to be over if I dont make the change. I as I write this I have started my juice fast. You are saving my life because of your videos and I would like to thank you! By the way I am an aquaponics guy. Thanks man you are a blessing to my life!
How’s it going 4 years later? Have you managed to lose weight?
They seem like elitist d bags, why would you want to be around salty people like that. I feel the tone of that Mike guy was not particularly nice. Just move on with your life, people like that can't be reasoned with.
Though I rarely comment on any of your channels I do watch them but I just had to say something about this. You are one of the people who have inspired to become a vegetarian and gardener. It sounds to me that he is so full of himself that he is not worth your time. I think that he is not an honorable man because he is not honoring his agreement w/you. In the past I have considered going to the fruit festival but now I do not believe I could in good conscience go. I hope that when you buy your farm (hopefully in Florida) you will begin your own fruit festival. I stand with john
Watch the video that caused this situation at:
th-cam.com/video/-vaVHuEBFAc/w-d-xo.html
Please share your honest opinions with me about it.
Video has been removed. :)
"Link does not exist" Was video deleted?
+Danielle HL the video is still on TH-cam
Just a casual observer, but you may be better off without people in your life that are vindictive and prone to backstabbing. If you have to be a yes man and never disagree with Mr. Arnstein to be a part of the festival you are better off not attending.
The response from Mike A. bothered me. It's more like a statement of ego and power versus collaboration as it's more than obvious that you did not intentions to cause any issues but were giving honest analysis of the quality of fruit. Thank you for your courage and vulnerability in the beginning. I appreciate your show of emotions. It really touched me.
John, I watched the near entirety of the brix video, and even witnessed you during the filming of it. When I saw you filming it it I sort of questioned it but never saw you release the video and never thought of it. And then you posted it and while watching it I could see that you did not intend to de-fame the WFF, however I could see it was going to stir up some drama. I am so sorry this all happened. I was, and am, feeling for you. Especially after seeing those tears man. I know you did not intend for this outcome.
I hope that you feel better soon but I know that you are as expected taking this very hard. Please continue making the great videos you have for years. I know you might not feel like doing so for a while but know that people will still want to see what you have to offer.
Once again, sorry to see this all happen.
Regards,
Doubleorganic
thanks for your outside perspective, it means alot to me.
u r an honest man. in this politically correct and corrupt society. ...the world is already sc*** and anything can be misconstrued and twisted. i will tell you the joke of the 2 Brazilian birds to make you laugh but i do not have your contact. u r an inspiration to many people, your garden is beautiful and your example outstanding. do not worry.
I think..
Arnstein is under a LOT of pressure
Much more than any presenter-
And I think he hears about low quality fruit a lot & he probably totally provides the best anyone on earth that Can be done
You can't judge the decisions someone makes, not knowing all the options or restrictions/strings binding them
Having written that, he also over reacted & took out his stress on YOU!
You will get over this, & patch things up (I am certain)
Don't be surprised if later on Arnstein doesn't come to apologize to you
But sorry kiddo... you aren't invited to play with the other kids at arnies slumber party tree house pizza get together this time...
Next year maybe
Don't be bitter about it
It's all just kid shit
Sending healing vibes brother ❤ 😊
Absolutely. I don't know John personally, but I watch his videos & I believe John to be a dear sweet soul only guilty of being passionate about his healthy food lifestyle & wanting to share it (knowledge / information) with the world. The WFF could have took this opportunity to help raise awareness about how challenging it is to get excellent quality fruit. It's not WFF's fault that the companies they bought from produced that fruit (which over all wasn't that bad). If it's challenging for WFF heck it's even more challenging for us. I returned 4 large watermelons today because when I opened them I discovered they were terrible! I'm just not settling & throwing my money away anymore!! Nothing will change until we start demanding better produce. Nevertheless the whole thing could have been handled better by all involved.
+Josh RawVegan
Arnstein is a businessman..
you would THINK he would have things more contractual... solid in a way, so that if someone ISN'T advocating a raw fruit based diet...
or IF someone makes a video that isn't in the best interest of the festival...
otherwise it just ends up a school yard booger spitball fight between Arnie & the gang versus whomever
contracts are verbal ONLY ?
and does it not defame a "pioneer" to be bastardized?
in the current situation... BOTH parties need to be willing to be forgiving
both acted hastily
I like you. You are not a sellout like 99.99% of the rest out there. You are (one of?) the most transparent. Whistleblowers are getting harshly disciplined all over the US at record rates so there is very few good people left that have any voice.
P.S. One thing that was disturbing and very cringe-worthy was your attitude in your follow-up correspondence. I thought you were more of an "OG." Maybe you slipped up, but it sounds like you were begging him and taking on the role that he was your master and you the minion. I would have just ignored him indefinitely after his first email.
It's shock, and the horrible feeling he has been hit with, he is trying to ease it by profuse apology, no one likes bad feelings, but John, you had your reasons for saying it.Look into that when you steady your ship.This too will pass.All is well.
Mike, if he's not a sellout then why did he sell out with a click bait title that isn't true.
Using clickbait titles is literally being a sellout.
And I'm saying this despite not disagreeing with him entirely, meaning in not on Arnsteins side on this. I think they are bit partially wrong here.
***** I don't get what you're saying or your point. He specifically said that he uses click bait to get more views, just the same reason everyone else does. That's being at least a little bit of a sell out.
I'm personally not a fan of click bait titles, but I also don't really care if someone does it. So I'm not giving John a hard time for it, but let's not play that he's 100% authentic and 100% integrity when he does use the click bait to get views. You can't have it both ways. And again, I have to say, that's not even a criticism or huge criticism of John, but there's some aspect of sell out to that, even if minor.
***** "He even said he's only trying to draw people to see his video. Is that so wrong? That's the point of making videos is it not?"
You're literally defining what a sell out is. People sell out for EXACTLY the reason you just described.
I never said it's wrong, but there's no reason for us to be dishonest about it.
John literally admitted why he does this so you're kind of disagreeing with him at this point.
***** huh?!?! What you wrote doesn't make any sense.
He somewhat sold out so that he could garner more views. He admitted so. It's not a big deal, but there's no reason we should be dishonest about it.
Arnstein should have accepted your genuine apology and solutions and kept his commitment to have you speak. His 'excuse' for stripping you of everything was passive aggressive and unforgiving. Never stop speaking your truth, John. People of character embrace the truth, even when it's uncomfortable.
I would not be half the successful and happy organic gardener that I am today were it not for your videos getting me started 4 years ago! i thank you for all that you do to help people grow and eat healthy! Stay strong and as many have stated, perhaps its time to start your own event!
Is this the same arnstein who got arrested for forging judge signature?
@@karthikjayant arrested for fraud, Moralless.
It is because he's an a****** that's why. You would not believe my experience with him and this stupid festival. I found volunteering for them grueling and unpleasant. They are thankless and lawless, rude and crude. I am sure there are better festivals out there than this and also you can just go and buy a bunch of fruit and hang out with your friends and have much more fun that way!!!
John. Iove you man. I support you with eyes closed. Dont get tangled up with bad energies my friend. Its not worth it. You did a great job in your last vid. If anyone felt bad it is their opinion. You are just letting know the truth. If they cant handle it its their problem. Keep on the good work. You are a great mentor to thousands of growers. I give you a warm embrace my friend. Just let go of all the bad things. Too many good things are coming.
You just let them know the truth. You are always trying to make things better.
+gjoep better for you not to go. That guy is stupid. You are better off without them. We need to learn to be with people that support not damage. You are better off
John so many horrible stories come out of that shit event I was surprised you were still associated with it. This is for the best. FUCK THEM. Sending positive thoughts your way John.
woodstock just lost another potential attende. that's bs they should learn to take criticism and not censor you John.
Arnstein is a crybaby. I saw the video and you were just trying to educate us more on how important it is to eat ripe fruit when on a raw food diet and to be on the look out for that at the festival. I think you should go to the festival because so many of us would like to meet you in person because you have been invaluable to us that are embarking on the raw food diet. We love you John, you have integrity and you are the real deal!
bout to start my migrogreens in my apartment :)
I just grew my first batch of wheat grass and it is so long and shaggy it looks like a Beatles haircut
Never a dull moment in the vegan community.
never!
Most of the fruit festival attendees are not even vegan.
+WizardofRaw Or raw. Michael eats cooked food all the time.
lol
Astral Purpose I have never been attracted to this festival, Mikes wife has to be one of the most ignorant people I have come across online as well. Its a festival of hypocrites but I know there are good quality people that attend, but the event does nothing for the advancement of veganism or healing of the world.
As someone who has witnessed first hand the amount of time, energy and thought that goes into this event, particularly the buying of produce, I thought John's initial video wasn't made out of good intention. If he had good intentions, he wouldn't have gone at the situation in the way he did. He would have emailed the admins with the intent to make things better, not create a public video to his 79,000 subscribers with a click-bait title ONE WEEK before the festival started. It was so obviously done with mal-intent.
I don't blame Michael for being upset with the situation. I wouldn't want to pay someone to come to Woodstock after they did what John did, either. It's not like John is Banned or anything of the sort. He is just no longer being paid to come to the festival. Someone ALWAYS tries to get views from drama surrounding Woodstock. John, I think you're a good guy and I'm pretty surprised that you made such a video at the time you did.
I have been with Mike for the last 2 weeks and am EXHAUSTED by the amount of work that goes into this event, and frankly everything in Mike's life. To imply that the festival could do better, without doing anything to actually help, and on the contrary... make drama is just clearly done with poor intent.
Everyone, please remember that last year was nearly the last, and so it's to be expected that the best of everything wasn't an option, but this year is bigger than ever and the fruit definitely reflects that extra influx of money, and I've seen that first hand because I've been up since 4 in the morning at 2 different fruit and veg dist. centers getting TONS (literally) of exotic tropical fruit.
So, John, please come. Let's all hug it out and eat some jack fruit.
+james1081cc Please don't disregard everything I said with the intent of perpetuating drama.
Hmm it looks like the last half of my initial comment was cut off. We're just not getting in the trucks to ship the food up so I'll have to finish later, but I'll say that the last thing I said was that nobody doesn't want john at the festival, he's welcome and we should all just eat jackfruit and hug it out.
I think your making way too big a deal out of nothing. He had no malice intent with that video and to say that is pretty sad on your part. Who cares how much time and effort goes into the festival, they decided to start it, nobody forces Mike to make an event. Quit making John out to be evil, nobody cares about the fruit click festival with shit fruit.
***** ITs all about EGO, Woodstock Fruit Festival = Gathering of Egos
RawKingKong is spot on. That is how I also perceived John's video, no malice just genuine concern about the quality of produce in general and the festival happened to be serving what is available on the market. The core message of that video to me was: GROW YOUR OWN.
I've watched the video and I can see why he was upset. The things you suggest sound like a massive amount of extra work - who is going to do that? Maybe you could have offered your time to do this and helped to organise purchasing the fruit for the festival? I remember watching a video of yours in the past and you responded to someone who was critical in the comments about your production quality, that you just did this as a service to people and you didn't have the time or the money to take on board the advice for professional quality productions (the quality is great now by the way, and I was happy with it back then). Well, I'm sure Michael is feeling the same way about this. He invests a lot of his time and money in the fruit festival only to find himself publicly criticised about it not being good enough. I've never been to the fruit festival, but I do know what it's like to be criticised for not being good enough when you're already giving sacrificially of your time, energy and money. Although you said the original title was just click bait and designed to get views, you actually were very critical of the quality of the fruit and of the way the event was run - such as not composting and the low fat recipes. A kinder way of dealing with this would have been to approach them privately and offering to help them get these issues sorted. When the issues were sorted then you could have done a video on how you guaranteed the fruit would be high quality at the fruit festival.
I do think his response to you was harsh though - most probably because he was hurt.
I completely agree with you Sue. It is so easy to deal harshly with others and feel perfectly justified because “I put so much into this. Who do you think you are?!” However, when you are the one who thought you were generously sharing helpful information it’s is easy to suddenly be crushed and not understand why they took offense and became angry with you. Too many people are happy to disregard how their actions effect others’ feelings but they demand that people be considerate of theirs. If he can’t see that he will never grow.
You were in the right, sorry this happened to you. Everyone has the right to an opinion without getting punished for it.
That treatment you got was not deserved. You've got nothing to apologise for. MA's response to your letter shows him up to be seriously lacking in rational thinking. You're the world's foremost guru and gold standard in the field and shunning you was a very bad move on his part.
Michael Arnstein can't respond to criticism.
John, I first saw your video's when I was on a trip to Maui back in April 2016. I became entranced with your ethics and the possibility that the lifestyle I was living did not have to be what it was. The idea of being much more sustainable lit a fire under me. Soon after seeing your videos, I started to research land for sale in Hawaii that I might be able to afford. Well as luck would have it, I found and purchased a lightly wooded 3 acre lot on the Big Island in July. The plan is to transform this lot into a small off-grid organic permaculture food forest. Your honest enthusiasm is what convinced me that not only was this new lifestyle possible, but it also would be a lot of fun. I was very much attracted to the "ethics" of permaculture. 1. Earth Care 2. People Care ( "If it's not caring for people, if it's making life hard for people or if it's enslaving people or it's creating hardships, it cant be permaculture" - Geoff Lawton ) 3. Return of Surplus. You videos are an invaluable guide for what tropical trees and plants I should get. Keep on the good path and make your dreams real! - Kenn from Las Vegas
Deb Justme
Mahalo!
I, too, have land on the Big Island of Freedom, and I believe I know the subdivision you bought in because I, too, have a 3 acre lot. I can't wait to break ground! Mahaloha!
Really nice area on north shore. I'm a Puna gal.
pipgal
Puna is my new home. :)
It's a little like the Wild, Wild West, but I like it that way :)
Poor quality fruit seems to be the norm everywhere these days because junk food (beet sugar & corn farmers) are highly subsidized but not organic farmers. From the last vid I actually kind of saw this coming sorry to say. I'm sad you were misunderstood as you did have good intentions. =(
Are you serious? I will NEVER be attending the Woodstock Fruit Festival. Such negativity.
WOW!!!! people are really childish!!!!! John I think everyone of your videos are AWESOME!!! YOU are the reason I went Raw vegan 5 years ago, You are the reason I started a garden for the 1st time!!! You are the NICEST and KINDEST person on TH-cam. You are always positive in all your videos and soooooo much GREAT information. I have been watching your channel for over 5 years now and I hope to watch it for many more years!!!! Don't let people get you down! I hope you all the best and have a great weekend!!!
Truth always wins. But, you should have first shared the video privately with WS and given them a fair chance to change. If no change, then go public. The tone of the WS director's email was very defensive. He didn't acknowledge any truth and sounds like an arrogant jerk. His loss in losing you. Not your loss. I admire your courage, John. I bought a Brix Meter today. 😃
I think that John did not first ask Mike & co for permission to post the video cause it didn't even occur to him that it could be taken so badly and totally the wrong way!! After spending years of attending and promoting the WFF.....he didn't think WFF peeps/ board members could or would misunderstand him to such an extent!
No, this is not a fascist state. John has the rights to express his opinion, and if you had watched other videos by other creators, they have talked about the same issues in their videos! I know about the fruit issues at WFF thru other people's videos discussing it! A normal, intelligent person would have had a panel at the festival to discuss it, instead of have a temper tantrum and lash out.
Awesome sauce, PJ!!
Most people have feelings and relationships matter. On both sides. If John didn't care about his relationship with the WS management team, then he did the right thing. Only he knows. If I was WS mgmt and wasn't given a fair chance to change before a video like that was released, I'd be pissed too.
gmcmillan100. Dude. Where did you get the idea "truth always wins"? Maybe you should read Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent.
You are the like the Fruits and Veg guru investigative reporter! Thanks for doing that work and research, it means a lot to many! Seems like they are really not wanting transparency! They were inflammatory in the message. Looks like Michael is not about free speech or differing opinions! Check into Permaculture gardening... if you haven't. It's organic gardening more aligned with nature. I have learned so much from you.
The fruit never looked good from the photos of the festival anyway.
The WFF should have taken your video in context. All that you do- your transparency, and dedication to healthy living, and involvement with the WFF should have been considered. The organizer's knee jerk reaction, cold and passive aggressive response, shows how easily he feels threatened. If his organization and personal character were strong and integrated, he would have called you and spoken his concerns directly. Based on his representation of the WFF it sounds like an event I will never attend. John, whenever something like this comes up, look deep within and ask yourself if you have knowingly or unknowingly done something harmful. If the answer is yes then apologize and do what you can to repair the damage, and move forward. If the answer is no, then understand the problem lies with the misunderstanding of your accuser(s), drop your concern, and move forward not losing any sleep over it. In this case you have done nothing wrong. It pains me to see you justifying yourself, overly apologizing, and begging WWF FOR clemency. Let WFF stew in their negative juices. This simply indicates that WFF is no longer a suitable platform for your passionate voice. Don't be angry or saddened by this. Hold your head up and move forward. You inspire and empower so many people, and are loved. Thanks for all that you do.
Thanks Lama, with you 100%
well said. completely agree
spot on
Dictatorships never work, and some of the others, such as an LA one coming up, have the same problems. Except people are getting hurt badly by that one!
I agree with Lama's statement 100%.
Awe! Don't cry John!! Everyone here values you!
John, I guess not everyone is as idealistic or as conscientious as you. It seems to me that the bigger these events get -the more compromises are made. Combine that with stress and big egos -and this is what you get. Granted the title of your video could have been handled better but with said, the way they choose to handle the situation was just wrong -especially given all you have done to promote the festival over the years and the number of people who may have been looking forward to meeting you and hearing your talks.
Yeah and the last minute cancellation/forfeiture of the agreement, th over the top hostile reaction; way off putting and unwarranted showing no understanding or appreciation of where John Kohler is coming from, after knowing him for years??? What's so scary about constructive critiicism?
To little to late. A misunderstanding? Seriously how could he not know? The minute I saw it I knew he was in deep doo -doo. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner because he's made shitty comments before about or toward other things and people. Looks like John will have to head over to the island of misfit fruities .RAW TIL 4 Thai fruit festival lmao!!
Such a shame. I watched that video and did not think you were dissing WFF in any way. If anything, seeing that video reminded me that I wanted to go to WFF even more!! You have so much great information to offer and especially to WFF!! They really messed up here, and it's so unfortunate don't feel bad, you should never have had to explain yourself. Whatever happens, I have a feeling good things will come of this, John.
OMG - John Kohler, YOU one of my favorite people on the planet (that I have never met - not yet anyway).
John, even though I don't know you personally, you have helped my life and the life of my family in many ways. You have inspired us to change our lifestyle and eating habits and, as a result, we have felt better and been excited enough to share our experience with others.
Please know how positively you have influenced us and that we support you, respect you and love what you do and how you do it for the well-being of all.
Thank you!
I've seen your Woodstock video relating to poor quality foods available in today's market. I took it for what it was. It was you trying to bring light and attention to low quality foods available everywhere .
As to Woodstock director banning you speaking at this festival I simply say this.
He did not even try to provide the best quality foods. He simply bought what Places like Wall Mart sell. Then promoted the festival as a much as he could. I don't see a problem with what he did! I don't see a problem with what you did. I see the truth being exposed.
"The food quality should be better. "
Why people can't handle the truth is a mystery to me!
John, this is an obvious sign for you to break ties with WFF and start making your own festival. I know you can do it. Think about it and do it better. Okay?
I think the simple thing we can learn from this is 'DONT USE CLICKBAIT TITLES" on your videos.
Frankly I am so sick of woodstock. REALLY? This is so stupid and frustrating. I can't even talk. You are a great guy and your information is valuable to all of us. I am really sad and upset.
weren't you one of the main players in getting harley and freelee banned from wff? karma has no expiry date bro!
I just watched the "WFF bashing video". Your perspective is always so enlightening. To be completely honest, I assumed Brix testing had been done by them. You can't charge people $1,500 and not have the best products. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF THE FESTIVAL IS TO HAVE THE BEST NUTRIENTS IN YOUR BODY, right? Otherwise, they're just saying to eat a lot of fruit and veggies, no matter where it comes from. The real problem was that you pointed out a fault in how the festival is run, and it hit a nerve and made the man in power throw a tantrum like a 3 year old. But you can bet they'll change their testing process going forward (whether they admit it or not). What you did was necessary and honest, and I truly thank you for being one of the good guys.
You did nothing wrong and seemed to have handled the situation perfectly. You clearly had no negative intentions. That other guy Michael I'm sure has so much responsibility but did not handle that well at all. From his offensive response, I believe the reason why he didn't ban u was for his own reputation since that would have made him look bad.
He either has issues or maybe just responded poorly and showed such bad character out of stress.
I do hope that he gets over his bitterness so that you both will find peace with each other. Whether u should go or not.. Just depends on how ur heart feels. Understandable either way.
I don't normally leave comments but leaving this one of my thoughts for u since you asked and wanted to show u some support :)
Wow. This is what happens when you surround yourself with people who only tell you what you want to hear. The truth just becomes too much to handle. If Mike was interested in making his event the best ever than he himself would have done an in depth fruit quality check on all the fruit coming through the event or at the very least, he should have been grateful that someone else took the time to diligently do it for him. I mean there's an entire year to prepare this event.
Your absolutely right John. I'm a Holistic Nutrition student and im disgusted by our food industry and the quality of our food! Unless its Organic its acidic to our body and feeding not fighting an illness. Unless the Woodstock food fest served all organic food...its not worth eating!
John, first, I LOVE all that you have done. I've loved your videos, your honesty, everything you have to teach, etc. I've told many people about your youtubes. BUT, your video was a mistake. I've done the same thing & got fired, so, I understand.
This is a job for u. U were working for them & they were paying you. Like any job, anyone publicly bad-mouthing the company they work for, &, in public, typically could get fired, &, that's exactly what happened. But, they nicely offered that you could attend this event. My consequences were I could not even volunteer at this organization I loved.
I agree w/Mike Arnstein that they work very hard to produce a great event, &, were publicly criticized by someone they were paying/their employee.
I do like much of what u said here. Something to consider...how would u feel if someone had done a similar video about you?
This is a lesson on your journey, &, I'm looking forward to all the wonderful video's that I know you will continue doing. Thank you so much for your great video's & all that you do.
Who would go to John Kohler's "Greenstock Fruit Festival"? !! I know I would!
Man you got a RAW deal ! And that's not OK . You are one of the best inspirations and teachers on YT. Don't grovel to the Arnstiens what they did to you is terrible and humiliating . After turning there backs on DR and Freelee I still stayed impartial even though I thought it showed a total lack of friendship or an ounce of loyalty but now I say fk them and will be un subscribing to them Also I didn't watch the supposed terrible video yet but absolutely knew it would be click bait when it popped up on my screen and not at all knocking the fest just because I always knew how you felt about the fest( as you put it on a pedestal for years) . A great thing about your vids is they are always in depth helpful and truthful no matter the subject. Even WFF. Wow that guys an elitist asshole IMO patting himself on back constantly and really made a mountain out of absolutely nothing . I would never grovel like you are right now .Keep up with the awesome tips and vids . WALK ON .
man you changed my life! i'm gonna thank you in person at the Costa Rica Festival!
I look to meeting you and attending the Costa Rica Fruit Festival, held on a permaculture farm with local and organic produce who will compost all food waste.
+okraw oh yeah you already know man this is Costa Rica ! Pita Vida!
Is using the word "Woodstock" in their title supposed to mean something?, The word "Woodstock" makes me think of a drug fueled music fest back in the 60's and nothing to do with living a healthy life style.
John you're a huge inspiration for me. Ive been watching you ever since ive gone vegan 13 years ago. Your channel is sooooo valuable thank you so much for all your beautiful words and service to educate all of us on what you know.
I think you outlined well your reasons for being on TH-cam. I love your channels they have helped me so much! Your channel is so much more important and far reaching than that dumbass fruit festival that most people cannot attend anyway. Keep doing what you are doing and relax. So what if they don't like what you say? If it's the truth....eff them. They are not worth your time AND they don't deserve your time in my opinion if they are that thin skinned. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs John, love ya, and sorry you are so hurt. Try to eat something. Some food will help you feel a little better
I can see how your previous video can be perceived as offensive and insulting. You said something along the lines of 'they shouldn't serve the cheapest crap to their attendees'.
I appreciate you sharing the message of getting the best quality fruit and can see that your intentions are good, but I can also see that MA wouldn't want to pay your expenses after you making an hour long video sharing how they serve 'average food to high quality people'.
That doesn't mean you are wrong or that your message is wrong. Just means that you were not 100% supportive of the WFF (and a bit too honest maybe in their eyes) and that apparently had consequences.
All the best to you and the WFF as well.
Michael Arnstein's use of sarcasm in his messages shows his lack of professionalism. Considering your video was not intended to harm, it would have been reasonable for Arnstein to discuss ways you could have clarified your message to your listening public. On another note, I think this is a good lesson about the "click-bait" titles -- something, I think most viewers would agree, we have all seen enough of.
It's a great thing you brought to light the truth...those who hide from the what's real are going to hate you saying this if it bursts their bubble! Those are the kind of people to disregard! Stay strong
Ok so a few points. When you want to be a part of a community you need to follow some rules of togetherness. When you critique places/ people/ things individually, it can backfire as it can hurt someone or something in the community. Unless you are sitting together and throwing around ideas together it can become a target game. That is why the vegan community has become so toxic.
There is one thing to remember, at the end- You always have to stand on your own. If they don't want you. Walk away, don't crawl and beg. You have a good thing going for you anyway.
Next time, get a bunch of fruit - regular and organic and do a comparison at home. I love your videos :-) Keep up the good work. People don't have to go to the festival, they have good info right here on your channel - for free, with organic fruit to snack on whilst watching. Chin up
This is just another reason I will never go to there event! I constantly hear how poorly Michael treats people if he dosen't like what they have to say. It's their loss, not yours!
John, Thank you for speaking your truth. Sometimes people get into their martyr complex. I am sorry Michael feels so threatened. It feels to me that there was not due process. I have been having conversations with people about the fact that peace is the willingness to hold space and listen across difference. Sadly for whatever reason Michael sounds stressed and is not able to hold the peaceful space of embracing difference and as a result has slipped into drama on the slippery slope of judgement. I pray that you may recover from your stomach upset and start eating once more. This drama is Michael's projection. I pray for his ability to apologize for the poor process and misunderstanding. We are all human and uneven. Clearly Michael is going through a rough patch.
John as a cool guy here in California forget NY, focus on open minded, grounded folk who appreciate the science and fun your channel, talks and writings have to offer to millions of people. Far more than attend the Woodstock Fruit Festival.
lol he sounds like a Sandy snatch to me 😂 you already told him they should improve fruit quality and as the time goes by you make a video publicly... he can't take constructive criticism and wanna act like a diva!? prolly cause the fruits he eats don't have the enough nutrients for him to man or level up
I'm going to give a 100% unbiased assessment. I've never been to WFF, but I'm an okraw fan and I've generally been a Michael Arnstein fan. Especially when many have attacked him or the WFF, I've generally been on his side most of the time.
BOTH of you are wrong, and both have some valid points.
First point I want to make, is that I totally understand why Arnstein is majorly on the defensive given the stuff that's happened in recent years with drama and accusation. So while he's overreacting and harshly reacting, I at least get why he's doing so.
That being said, he should know John/okraw by now, and know that he's NOT like the rest. He's not trying to cause drama and hate against WFF even if he was a poor choice. In fact, I'd be shocked if there was a single person on earth that cared more about the WFF more than John/okraw, including even Arnstein himself!
I think John was wrong with that title. And I do think that John was wrong to email everybody before sending that apology email to Arnstein. For Michael, I understand why he would be extra angry that John called out him and his letter to everyone as a public embarrassment. Now, maybe it was deserved, but why didn't John send that long apology note to Michael BEFORE mass-emailing everyone about the situation. If he reversed those two steps, it would be completely different. And I also wonder if Michael MIGHT have changed his mind at that point.
I think everyone handled this poorly in multiple different ways.
It's also completely unacceptable (and probably against the law) for Arnstein to pull the comped airfare (and entry cost) from John within days of the WFF. He could have pulled him off the speaker list, but honored the rest of his agreement and told John that he would not be offering him anymore in the future as a result of this issue. But it was too late to do it for this year's event.
I do think John's apology email, saying that he would do all these things going forward, was truly from the heart and legit, and I think Michael's response was quite nasty. At a minimum, it should have been enough to say "let's solve this for next year, but it's too late for this year".
Here's my solution for everyone.
-For John to stick to what he said in his last email to Michael (apologies, running suggestions by Michael next time first, and running any video ideas by him, and editing the video title to not be so negative, etc.)
-For Michael to at a minimum pay John for the cost of the ticket he purchased (again he probably legally has to do this). But besides legally, it's just the right thing to do.
-For Michael to make all efforts to fix this going forward and try to come to a fair resolution for the future.
-Michael needs to be a bit more professional going forward. Those sarcastic comments from the start, in the first email (about bringing his fruit from his garden and about learning how to communicate) were just not right from a guy that high up in this organization. It's ALWAYS better to take the higher road if you own a company or an event.
-For John/okraw to not use clickbait titles. It's just now the level of integrity I expect from someone like John. It's selling out for views, which I expect from some people, but not John.
I hope John gets to go back to the WFF in the future, in a way that works for him and the WFF and that they patch things up. John and Michael are not like Durianrider and Freelee, they are much better people, and it's disappointing and upsetting to see this happen. Both made mistakes, and both have some validity to their points, but I think Michael needs to do a better job of knowing who the real enemy is, and John CERTAINLY is not that guy.
I should add that I feel terrible for John/okraw as I know how much emotion he has and how much this event means to him. As I stated above I think he cares about it more than anybody. I think he's truly crushed about what has transpired and never in a million years could have imagined that this would have come of what he did. Michael really has to find a way to work this out.
I agree with your assessment both were at fault but it was handled pretty rude by the organizer.
bonemarrow, this is interesting to me since you have a long trail of harassing people &insulting people &support malicious activity ganging up on people all over youtube. Your youtube id is very familiar!. It is ridiculous for you to offer any suggestions when you are part of the problem. Now I see exactly what direction your mud is coming from
John, please do not listen to a thing this bonemarrow writes. You were not in the wrong in any way. This bonemarrow has been involved in some heinous activities on youtube against various other channels, and now I know more about the direction this has come from.
100% totally lying about me. I don't harass people and I don't insult unless they are disgusting people.
I'm nearly 100% positive you're known as a troll on most peoples comment sections. No wonder why you're making up lies about me.
Hello John, I am sure you are a nice guy but your approach to certain things can be a turn off. I am sure there was a better way to handle the fruit situation at fruit stock. The way you did it gave me the impression that there was something personal going on. You can get down negative sometimes. I remember the video that you made trying to get people to stop using cacao. I stopped watching a lot of your videos after that. I think you really need to change your approach on certain issues.
You the man and we all love you. Don't be sad cause some people can't see your light. ❤️
If you have those agreements in writing (even via email) they aren't allowed to take it away legally, it's considered a contract so he would have to honor it.
You seem like a wonderful principled person. It's important to be honest and transparent, and if that WSFF organizer can't understand how to take constructive criticism, especially from a major supporter of the event, they are likely on a path to continued alienation and more people avoiding the event altogether. There's a reason why there are so many "I got banned from the WSFF" type videos. Even if you didn't get banned, screw this negative crap. What matters is you stick to your truth :)
in all the videos i have seen of you, there is not one malicious bone in your body. your heart was in the right place. always go with your gut. if they cant understand that, then oh well. move on... we will alway support u.
your awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
Also the festival has not been promoting itself at all!!!!! This year. I wondered if it was even going on. If they want more success they need to promote it more thru controversial videos like the ones you made to help. They should be thankful for any publicity.
Sorry this happened John. Says a lot about Arnstein and his true colors. Thanks for sharing the email, most wouldn't have been so transparent.
Make and organize your own fruit festival with great products!
John, firstly I applaud you all the way from London UK. Your mails were the most eloquent, sincere and humbling that you wrote to both parties and in return you received quite (in my opinion) a scathing response despite you welcomed them to talk with you but as far as their concerned their decision is final when all you was merely doing was to raise awareness to them and patrons attending of the quality of produce WORLDWIDE! John it appears to me that despite you haven't been banned they sure as tofu eggs have made you feel that way by taking away such priviladges and lets face it that's what they are but please do not stop what you are doing and go damn it and that is raising the awareness of fresh, organic and home grown foods. Even myself with my little basil plant is thinking of how would that bundle of energy John grow this into an amazing bush! See so you have your support out there and besides your messages of health are far more valuable to thousands in the world than pay-it-yourself-tickets to this event. Big fresh basil smelling hugs to you John.
I don't think you did anything wrong, but in your shoes I probably would've posted the video after this year's festival to avoid any tension or controversy right before the festival. Seems like it's an elitist gathering and it's never seemed very attractive to me anyway, so I haven't gone. I wouldn't pay a huge amount of money to go eat fruit at a campground. Maybe 10 years ago, but you're right; In the age of the internet all these talks are already online. Why pay huge money to go see it live? It seems like it's a bunch of high school drama and popularity contests or something. Definitely doesn't interest me in any way.
Keep your head up John. Why not start your own festival in L.V.?
Almost all vegans have lost the vision. The whole purpose is to stop the suffering of animals. Instead you have fruit festivals that end in drama, durian rider and free lee cults, condescending nonvegans for not converting, etc. the vegan community is a joke.
That guy (Arnstein) was awful, he did not deserve a reply at all! Costcutting as a response?! Why was not he honest? As a minimum, he should have stated that your video caused reputational damage and thats why your tickets and presentation are revoked, not that event costs are high! WTF!
John, dont cry because of a dishonest asshole! You should NOT have explained yourself, and I think begging him to forgive was not a good idea. (next time wait until you are not emotional any more and could think more clearly whether you should write a reply at all).
However, I have seen the video as it was posted. It was controversial, and your suggestions could have been forwarded in private and not to the public. I can understand why you cant present there any more, but I think you could expect that before you posted the video. The guy could have also easily taken you to court for causing reputational damage, which he did not, just your tickets and presentation were lost. To which explanation like your reply letters would have been perfect (at court). Anyway, its the past now, its settled, so try to relax and move on (easier said than done). I am sure there are lots of places where you can present.
Love your videos as always, btw and i will definitely watch you in future no matter what. Your contribution to the world is already huge, highly appreciate the amount of effort and research you do and teach us.
Taking John to court... are you kidding? There is no leg to stand on for that, as John only shared facts that he found. WFF could have been grateful and risen to the challenge, where they would have gained more respect. This way they have hurt themselves - at least in my book.
That's what I thought. Then he had the cheek to say John communicated badly, just as he was childishly not being straight forward.
This all seems like making a mountain out of a mole hill, or rather a grape out of a raisin (best I could think of that's fruit related).
TL;DR ... forget the festival, grow a garden, give away some healthy food, and eat your fruits and veggies.
I just don't see a "fruit festival" as all that important. Why not just use the $1,200-2,000+ spent on a festival and go plant some fruit/veggies, and then give away most of what you grow to poor folks. After all, most poor folks diet is comprised of saltine crackers, potted meat, and sodas. Sure seems like giving away healthy food is a lot more helpful to humanity. Yes, I do eat saltines and potted meat occasionally ... we all crave salty fat, right? Remember that movie called Slingblade, which sure made saltines and potted meat look tasty. An aside: if you want to get rich and help humanity invent some cheap healthy "junk" food, as most of us just can not afford to paddle down the Amazon river looking for ripe fruit. I can only paddle, so to speak, through Food Lion/Giant/Safeway ... and to be honest there is not much in such places that is ripe, edible, and healthy.
Yes, I do watch a lot of John's videos. He seems sincere and interesting. His videos are a bit too long ... John, we only have 24 hours in a day. Yes, he should not do the clickbait titles ... weren't such things called "headlines" when used in a newspaper.
Just stick with the obvious simple titles like:
"apples are good"
"watermelon makes you pee"
"blackberry seeds get stuck in my teeth"
"why you can't crack an eggplant"
Yes, I get that "like minded" folk want to get together at a festival in order to remind themselves of how "NOT like minded" they really are.
When it comes to being judged by a pair of eyes, it's best to just look in a mirror. Hey, that sounds profound, but I'm sure someone else already expressed such a thought.
This is just the opinion of a fellow human being who mostly eats fruits/veggies, is perpetually over weight, wishes for a garden, walks 6+ miles every morning, enjoys hacking (in a nice way, not bad) on computers, sleeps like a hibernating bear, has a confused relationship with my neighbors cat, lives in rural southern america (help!),
and most importantly tries to be better each and every day (yeah right, but I try).
Peace to all fruities, vegans, and yes, meat eaters too.
I love you John. What the heck.
Don't waste your time. You are so much better than this kind of treatment.
WFF should have THANKED you, not blasted you, for revealing food quality concerns on behalf of the public, that it had to be improved to give intended value, and remind them to test and scrutinize their food before opening. Your record supporting the WFF and all the positive publicity you've given it, was not taken into consideration. Its juvenile that they took your video in a negative light. They could have used your brilliant journalistic responsibility to thank you, and correct the quality. You are a noble warrior for plant based world for the better, and you were doing the best you could, even though your intentions were pure and good, you did NOT bash them. Unfortunately something was lost in communication as Arnstein's chooses not to understand your viewpoint. I'm sad for you, and support you always. I welcome you to wash away your troubles and rejuvenate in our magical waterfalls and celebrate life with our gourmet raw cuisine at my farm in Costa Rica. Blessings
One of the comments here says exactly how it should have gone down after your video. Someone I believe her name is Pippi, said they should have publicly responded in a humorous way with a fun and funny video. That is exactly what would have been mature and would have promoted their festival much more than what is happening now. John, when we speak truths and are authentic that is often when we polarize. And it takes a mature person to handle it. The reaction I can see from them is immature and detrimental to their popularity. I have wanted to go for years and the immaturity with which they responded has led me to decide to not even think about ever attending. A place built upon such vibration will attract such vibration. I saw your video before they responded and my thoughts were "John, you're being courageous because people who need drama in their life will misunderstand your message." And it's because when you need drama, you misunderstand things a lot. It's the best way to create dr
Sorry I couldn't finish my message. I was saying people who meed drama will also tend to misunderstand things easily because that is the easiest way to create drama. This doesn't happen deliberately but on a subconscious level. They could have clarified things with you first before threatening with consequences. Over the years now following you public raw foodists, I have noticed there aren't many as honest and sincere as you. You did well. Your video and this one as well show your courage and your quest for truth and authenticity. Please stay that way!!!
You just need to realize the Woodstock fruit festival is a business and like all businesses it's all about the money. Anything or anyone who comes in the way of that...... Now where do I get one of those fruit tester things?
West Coast Fruit Fest hosted by John Kohler!
Ohh nooo sweet okraw..... :'((((( Why do you cry....... :'( I watched 2 minutes and i couldn't eat anymore cause you make me cry too.... Don't cry.... ... no no.... if you cry then what should all the useless selfish pointless people do..... i'd like to give you a BIG BIG HUG. :'(
John I am a big fan of yours! I bought my Omega NC800 juicer from you and I have been following you for years. Although I love what you do and who you are, I think you were both right and wrong in this WFF situation. Just like you said in today's video, you were right in expressing your opinion and you actually did not put down the event, but just wrong for not giving Michael a head's up BEFORE posting and giving the video a slightly misleading title. However, I STILL THINK YOU SHOULD GO AND I WOULD LIKE TO HELP YOU GET THERE! I think that I am not alone when I say that your followers (me included) would make donations to you to send you there. Just tell me and others how we can help send you there! You make a lot of great videos while you are there each year and the thought of no expert interviews from WFF 2016 is disappointing. So seriously, let us help get you there and as a good faith gesture, offer to give your presentation at no cost to WFF. Let us help!
Our opinion, John, is that if the WFF owes you an apology, not you owing apologies to anybody. He has been very rude to you, where Veganism is about gentleness and compassion for all lie...including by far....being kind to our brothers and sisters on Earth! As elders in the Vegan and juicing movement, it is so painful for us to hear the horrible way in which this man has treated you.
You're being transparent about the challenges we all have with foods nowadays. It really saddens Jay and I to hear these things as well as seeing you emotionally upset. We've known you for decades and respect and honor the work you have done to better us all. The work you've done is brilliant and we love you so much. Jay and I personally want to thank you for all the tireless hard work you do to help educate and inspire us to be well. Just like Jay has always said, "Our Vital Health is our Greatest Wealth." Sending our support and love to you always! Linda and Jay Kordich
I won't be going now, because you won't be there. This would have been my first and I was excited ! I'll save my money now !!!
I understand that you had no bad intentions. But from Micheal Arnstein point you basically said their fruit is shit. Isn't fruit whats the festival is about? So fruit shit=festival shit. I understand you only meant for the WFF to become even better, but maybe the way you did it wasn't ok. Maybe the WFF doesn't want to improve their fruit quality. I don't know. But I do see that Micheal feels that his product is under attack by your video and that he only wants to protect it. This seems to be a major communication problem. Sometimes we have no bad intentions but it still doesn't come across that good. If you get the chance you should talk to him face to face. Maybe you need to put yourself in his position to understand where he's coming from? I'm sending you lots of strenght and positive vibes from Germany 😊.
Tickets for TFF are $1500. if you are paying that much you would thinkt he fruit would be high quality.
+Free Spirit I think that thats the problem Arnstein has with this video. You are a great example of how its received by the viewer. The fruit quality of some fruits seems to be great and the people didn't complain. Or did they? What OkRaw wants to achieve is excellent fruit quality and that is maybe not possible in that quantity? Btw 1500$ with a plane ticket or without? If you were at Festival yourself, you can explain your concerns about the fruit?
John, you are a beautiful soul. The Woodstock Festival is known for kicking people out/revoking offers they have made, and even shaming people by telling them they should be "grateful" for the opportunity. This issue has nothing to do with you, hun. They don't want anything that may make their festival look less than extravagant, and they decided what they did out of fear. You did nothing wrong. You followed your heart, and like you said, you speak your truth to help spread the light. Find peace, love. You did the right thing.
I am appreciative of all the information you offer to us & will continue to listen. However, I do think you used poor judgment when you made the video. The title was very negative, even with the question mark & to suggest that you are an expert in fruit quality was a little over the top. Sensationalism is not necessary. You already have a large following, and to suggest this was intended to make the festival better is puzzling. I agree with Michael & I don't think it helped your cause by reading his personal email to all of us. Very impractical to suggest that they test their fruit for an event of this size.
John, I've never commented before, but I felt moved to now. When I watched this video I wanted to fly across the ocean and give you a hug, and tell you that you are a Real, geniuine, good, honest and beautiful soul. You are an inspiration and the world's sickness is because of a lack of great-hearted people like you. It's obvious that your comments on WFF were comming from innocence and a passion for growing produce, but that innocence has got lost in the harsh and over board messages from people who have sacrificed the heart and keen passion for the business head. To welcome you back to the festival would be to regain what the festival is about: peace, love, compassion, truth. To loose you would be to loose a piece of these from the festival.
Ok, so just like you would not tell everyone at a party that toilet paper is hanging out of a person's clothes, you would wait to tell that person descretely to not hurt or humiliate anyone. And that may be the truth but telling it only to that person will help that person take care of the problem. You could have gone to the board directly and addressed the problem and see what could be done. You were a huge supporter of the WFF and they deserve that much. I still adore you but not this click bate and not thinking this would not be hurtful to others in the way you handled it.
F those pple. seems they are more interested in profit, you know like Buy Low sell High. you could start your own Festival. You don't need them
Fuck it John! It's just a "festival", life goes on! He's just butt hurt bc you proved truth about what is there, and isn't! You know your intentions, we all know u r a really good guy & that's all that matters! You also shouldn't get anyones "permission" to post a video on YOUR TH-cam! Again, fuck him! Because of his decision, the event will lose much needed support :( but you will continue to do what you do & be well, John. This has to do with his ego & nothing else, now you go grow something beautiful! 🌱🍉🍅🍆🍇🍏🍋🍊🍄🍈🍑🍒🍓🍍🌺🍃🌷🍂🌸🍁🌹🍀🌻🌼🌽🌾🌿🌈🌞
John Kohler turned me vegan years ago... He said you dont have to be perfect you just have to start. Even if you only add a single apple a day to your diet. I owe that man my life...
I just watched your other video on WFF and I came across this video. I'm so sad to hear what happened. You're such an amazing and inspiring person. I love your video and it's educational. I heard a lot about WFF, but your video on WFF was very educational. I don't feel your video is offensive at all. I still want to attend Woodstock Fruit Festival one day after watching your video about fruits Woodstock serve. It's such a big loss for not having you attending the festival. You're so knowledgeable in your field and have helped so many people how to eat healthy. Thank you so much for everything you do here. Keep inspiring......you're amazing!
Omg John, it broke my heart to see you cry. It made me cry. Ty for being strong enough to share your truth with us. Xo big hugs.
so for many years I said I would go despite what other's have said about the festival but this has put me off completely, all you have ever done john is try to help other's & man it broke my fucking heart at the beginning when you were in tears, but mike doesn't care about that or you or many other's all he wants is for people to say how awesome he is for doing the festival lol, NO ONE IS MAKING YOU DO THIS MIKE IT IS YOUR CHOICE so if you have had enough stop, HEY ARNSTEIN DO YOU LIKE KICKING PUPPIES ? the answers probably yes due to your treatment of john I could go on & on but i'll stop their.
john thankyou for doing what you do, you have inspired me for 7 years I don't watch your vids all the time these days but always come back around LOVE YOU DUDE !!!! if you're ever get to the uk let me know i'll love to buy you some mangoes or something decent :P
take care bud
I love you man. You've inspired me and countless others to not only improve our health, but to do our best to improve the planet and the lives of those around us. You are passionate about this, and your knowledge and conviction to tell the truth exposed a big issue with this festival. Keep calling it like you see it.
Hi John, to watch this video broke my heart. Don't let this crap get to you. You don't need this. You are my favorite person (right after my Hero "David Wolfe") I follow all your channels and I watched almost every single video you ever made....and....you have lots :) I am thankful for all the information you are sharing with the rest of the world. Thank God YOU exist John Koller!!
Sending you lots of Love & Light....all the way from Lisbon/Portugal (Europe).
hey buddy. i haven't finished watching this video im into it about 2 minutes. i will watch it all but wanted to quickly say that your videos are awesome. and you seem like an great guy. ive been watching you on and off for 2 years. do not lose heart bro. keep your head up.
just watched all of it. its their loss buddy. sounds like they are punishing only because you just wanted to have some good quality fruit.
you don't need narcissistic people like that in your life buddy.
I wouldn't waste my time thinking about them.
+Mak Vegan Krantisanga if the Arnsteins continue keep pissing big TH-camrs like yourself then that day wont be long before WFF stops for good.
That will be a happy day.
John I am totally completely 100 percent on your side with this! You are decent and honourable and I cannot say the same for the WWFF and with how you have been treated! You bring a refreshing grow your own food perspective to the festival and it is THEIR AND OUR GREAT LOSS THAT YOU WILL NOT BE THERE! And I for one will not ever attend, don't like there politics!