ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Welcome to Cursed Runs, a series where I do some of the hardest Hollow Knight categories out there.
Today, inspired by a previous video, we obtain 33% without picking up a single ability. Some of the skips required to do this were though to be TAS only or straight up impossible before this was routed. Special thanks to ImDaDirtyDan, IronRose and daanolav who helped make this run possible.
@imdadirtydan's itemless mark of pride explanation/showcase video: • No Vertical Mantis Vil...
@daanolav's no abilities Uumuu: • Hollow Knight - shade ...
Discord server: / discord
Subreddit: / fireowl
Consider subscribing if you enjoyed the video!
tinyurl.com/s6...
extremely interesting. i would love to see an alternate version of this run w/ the dream nail!!
Or even allowing spells. Fireball Skips and Stallball could lead to some crazy skips, and Dive unlocks Godhome and pantheons, leading to more crazy stuff.
yeah it would be really cool!
So many of the random things in this video were terrifying like the fact you have a use for heavy blow and sprint master+dashmaster without dash
that was a cool video, here's hoping you do a sequel on how much farther you can get when allowing dreamnail
It really doesn’t add anything, mostly just means hours of essence grinding and all the skips of the run get easier
@@imdadirtydan You could probably do dome dumb stuff by chaining dreamgates.
@@Voidling242 it just lets you chain shade skips, but there’s not really anywhere you can chain them and get somewhere it matters before hitting a wall or gap you can’t get over anyway
I don’t even know if you can GET go dreamnail.
@@exi_m7074 you can get dream nail itemless with a shade skip and one enemy pogo
It seems that zotes death is necessary to doing a hard challenge
yeah, since he would do them 4 pararrel universes ahead of us
In this case he died cuz they went to city
@@jogbearcool8594 Oh I didn't know
Through his sacrifice this challenge lasts eternal
Zote’s death is always necessary, screw Zote
Your videos are awesome, exploring some of the weirdest hollow knight runs and showing it to us, just perfect
I think my favorite thing about these cursed runs is the weird charms that are required, and sprintmaster has got to be the best one yet - never in a million years would have thought that would ever be required xD I absolutely love these videos!
I love watching someone answer a question we all never knew we needed the answer for
I love this channel. The insane things that you do to the game, the it changes the way you look at simple game mechanics, the wonderfully told story of each video, and even down to the clean edits and even use of pauses and breaks in the video with just black screen. Amazing work!
What a fantastic video!!! It was really interesting to watch and some of those skips are absolutely nuts. The bit at the end explaining why other % aren’t gettable was very helpful!! And I would DEF be interested in a video where you *do* get dreamnail!!
ur videos are to die for, thx for providing awesome hollow knight content
It's a strange feeling watching this right after your no pogos video.
I really think that you should make a separate video for completion percentage with Dream Nail. This video was great, so I really wanna see how much more we can get with Dream Nail.
You've got some madlad level challenges and I love every bit of it
Its insane how much time and work you spen on these video. You really deserve more subs that you habe right now
I watched Skurry's video yesterday about how they spent over 40 hours killing birds to farm essence for awoken dreamnail. That pales in comparison to the persistence and dedication you demonstrated here. Bravo!!
I also love the Ori music you added, it feels really appropriate.
At least one person is interested in seeing the dreamnail-allowed version's additions
Those additions are pretty much entirely some boring boss fights and a crap ton of essence grinding, tbh all it does is make the skips in the run easier and makes it more boring
ill keep that in mind!
*insert cursed hollow knight dreamnail glitch version*
I love the inclusion of ori music! Keep up the great work.
22:31 I thought you can do a shade skip for this jump?
Anyways thank you for devoting massive amounts of time and effort into this video!
you can but you absolutely need a shade for the second part of thorns
@@FIREOWLHK Oh, is that one of the things that adding DreamGate Shadeskips could make possible?
9:29 when shade has no hitbox XD, neat video, never thought it was even possible.
Yo the shade acid skip was sick. It looked super painfull, but sick.
I would recommend getting 6 masks first before doing the salubra shade skip. This makes it so you can hit the shade 3 times and parry it once.
This was so interesting! I can’t believe your tenacity with some of these cursed skips. I once did a run getting 102% without dash, but I wonder if you’d be able to get more? Keep up the awesome Hollow Knight content!
im pretty sure you can get more, probably 110%
@@FIREOWLHK I'd be interested to see how, and if I can do it on console
@@benjaminmenist anything you can do on pc you can do on console. the only tough parts about max% dashless is white palace
Maybe I'll try continuing the run then, I also remember a specific part of queen's gardens being tricky as I couldn't cdash on the falling platforms and had to do some tight double jumps to reach the grub, can't remember if that increased the percentage tho
A lot of max% dashless is locked behind shade gates. I count 6% (dash itself for 2%, Traitor Lord/Kingsoul for 2%, Sharp Shadow for 1%, Markoth for 1%). Everything else is presumably possible.
It’s amazing that how the game is made, some skips are barely possible. (Unrelated note: just subbed!)
appreciate it!
Well obviously it’s because team cherry intended for all of this to be done!
You're insane. And that spire shade skip with sprintmaster is absolutely beautiful
I actually made use of the royal waterway/fungal wastes shade skip you presented in the first video. I was playing a randomizer where shade skips could be required and where I could spawn in other places besides king's pass. Guess what, I appeared in Cornifer's room in Royal waterways. I got the few things I could get in royal waterways, then realized I had to the shade skip.
...Then I also had to figure out on my own how to do the shade skips required to climb all the way to the leg eater. That was memorable.
This is what it feels like when you turn on too many skips without duplicate items in the randomizer
this is amazing. Yes to any/all videos like/similiar to this
There has been no Fire Owl video for the last 5 months. This must mean that they are making something insane
A Banger as always Fire Owl, good job!
Glad its back!
I was watching this video a few days ago as you removed it from your channel. Excited to see the end now!
the whole time i kept trying to guess at what is and isnt possible and im happy i got a lot of them right! and the methods of getting places too! since i do a lot of randos and frequently dont have the movement required to get places i know a lotta shade skips but even to me,,, *oh boy* that acid skip to uuwuu was CURSED
I had fun watching this video well done !
I have to contest the title of this video. There's no way that I could do most of that! Fantastic exhibition!!
Woo more cursed runs. These are my favorite HK content getting made right now.
This is quickly becoming one of my favourite HK channels, thanks for the content :D
Love how you combined the gameplay with ori music
Nice video! Glad to see our least favorite room is the same.
I'd love to watch a similar video but including Dream Nail
As expected, you have to do some crazy stuff in this run.
Wow, this channel is mad underrated!
so cool! peaks looked like hell
it was!
It’s painful just watching these skips you are amazing
BTW you don't need to shade skip at 6:07 if you align your player correctly, it's cursed.
No shade skip at 6:33 and 8:23 needed (low% CP epogo exists)
9:57 how zote dies is both claw and specific rooms, there is no known/shared list AFAIK as to what rooms zote dies to but that's how it works.
1. i did the shade skip anyway cause god im not doing that jump it would take longer then just shade skipping
2. epogo without fireball?
3. yes the trigger rooms are the room above lemm and the room above corpse creeper arena
@@FIREOWLHK 1. Fair point, 3. I thought there were more than that but I can believe that and 2. you're right, I had the vague memory of it being possible but yeah it was only possible with 15 FPS (or at least very low FPS)
Don't worry everyone, no shades where harmed in the creation of this video.
This video was sponsored by daan olav shade skips inc. how long did itemless blue lake take you? What FPS limit did you use? I was considering running great hopper% only to spend 2 hours at the bench by salubra wondering “why?”
the lowest you are allowed to limit fps is 50 but going even lower makes the skip easier. itemless blue lake gets easier everytime for me but it took about half an hour this time
probs my favourite video on all of utube
Your videos inspire mine, Fire. Keep up with the amazing content!
U and daanolav are definitely the best players in hollow knight skips
Literally wow...🤯🤯🤯
This is really cool! Seeing how much you can do with dreamnail/dreamgate would be really interesting.
20:55 lets go a 20 cycle
Amazing content as ALWAYS!
12:01 is there any problem with just upslashing the grub? i like to do the whole thing anyway but i tried it several times and it worked, so you could theoretically just upslash and free the grub without the shade skip
or does anything go wrong after that?
Great video as always!
Btw are you sure dung defender is unreachable? I remember there being some flukemon you can lure all the way to that wall to pogo (but idk if you can get there with no abilities at all)
yeah you need wings for that unfortunately
The real issue with dung defender is the next room - a room with nothing in it that requires a tall jump
Great video! Id love to see a dream nail version as well!
Awesome!
Also, hitboxes are weird at 9:29 lol
cotton moment
Your vids are very enjoyable to watch ^^
15:00 I love how you use ori music for a game not far off from ori
You're so extremely cool. I wish you voiced ur vids. Regardless, please keep it up! 💗
Wow, I didn't think you could reach that porcentaje, that was awesome. Now I want to see how much can you do with dream nail :)
great vid! now do this but maybe instead of skipping claw you start killing bosses and unlocking godhome and the finishing p5 and not grabbing any unneccesary items
Great vid! Would love to see a dream nail extension
I never knew there was a bench in the mantis village, the whole time I was trying to beat mantis lords I was travelling from the one further away
You unlock the bench after beating the mantis lords
@@ThreeletterIGN ..
I'd want to see a video on whats possible with dream nail as well
That crossrodes skip to umuu was insanely crazy good 😮
There is another abilitiless way to enter fungal
If you open up the menu the same moment you grab a mask shard you can fly from the shard near the hot spring in crossroads entering fungal from above
Sounds like a major glitch, the likes of which are avoided for challenges like these.
@@meissmart6678 i dont think its a major glitch but it may be banned from NMG
yeah this is a major glitch and this run is nmg
It's fantastic that you can beat 1/3 without anything. Acid skip is mind-blowing 🤯
This man is insane. Not in the “great at the game” way, he just has no sanity.
Most sane HK challenge runner:
Idk if you’ve already thought of this, but minimum nail swings for a run would be a fun challenge and probably a good video
it would be if that category wasn’t so cursed lmao
@@FIREOWLHK yeah it is probably pretty different lol
Oh hey, its that spike grub that I hate. I did that skip a while ago, and it took me like five hours... also WHAT!? YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT CLAW!? WHAT!? I was trying to do a dashless run (until I realized that you can just get mantis claw, and then it was too boring) I spent forever getting up there only to see that there was nowhere to go. You CAN go somewhere though! Im super confused by what happened, but oh well. I have no interest in trying to do that again...
I love your vids so much! :) instant sub.
Dream nail could be great, since it technically opens up the idea of beating the game, and it's not an ability, it's a weapon
Wow, you're insanely good at this game, this was so fun to watch!
And hey, here's my incentive for you to start voicing over your videos! The edits are already top-notch and perhaps you lack only the confidence for narrating, but I can't remember of anyone who tried it out and goat heat from their viewers. Perhaps consider showing a narrated video to a few of your Discord members at first, you'll certainly receive positive feedback that will make you more comfortable using your voice :)
Unless, of course, there is some other reason for you to not want to do it, in which case I do apologize for prying!
Best luck for the channel!
hey thanks for the words of wisdom! i might experiment with more voice in videos in the future, at the moment its very convenient for collabs where i can simply get in a call with someone and record a video. in terms of full edited runs like these, i haven't ever really done commentary of the sort for this style of video. it feels a little bit more "forced" if you know what i mean, im talking to myself in the mic instead of conversing with someone in a discord call.
i do hear you though and its definitely on my mind. im still not 100% comfortable using my voice but its slowly getting there :)
@@FIREOWLHK Sorry, I just now saw your reply!
You know, there are various techniques to deal with the weirdness of talking to yourself.
I personally like what is called rubberducking in programming: you put a ruber duck (or a grub plush, hehe) next to your screen and try to explain your code to it. You're obviously not gonna get any answers, but it will feel more like a conversation and the debugging gets easier!
In your case, imagine the chosen interlocutor is a friend who doesn't know HK watching you play :)
funfact: the completion score is an ability known in the game files as "world sence"
Very interesting. For future reference I think having a percent counter on screen would be helpful
i considered doing this but i already delayed the video by a lot and it was a lot of work :(
@@FIREOWLHK No problem, still a great video
Would love to see this but with dream nail
12:37 if the other skip is Pogaxe, this is POGGERSaxe
I’m not fully educated on this so please do correct me, but couldn’t you also get into fungal wastes by using long nail to kill forgotten crossroads baldur then going through green path to fog canyon and then queens station, then dying at the bottom right corner spikes and returning to do a shade skip to fungal wastes, though I’m guessing that the shade skip I’m proposing would be impossible because maybe the shade would spawn out of the way of being possible to do a skip on, also love the vid keep up all your hard work you’re really talented!
yeah unfortunately the shade spawns way too low to be useful in queens station. it would mean that low% could be lowered though if it was possible
"Save slay so we can make him richtig later " haha
11:15 *buys 2 items for a total of 240 geo without actually having any geo
*Makes sense*
my geo counter was acting really strange throughout the video. another bug was the fact that dashmaster didn’t equip properly near the end of the video
@@FIREOWLHK Ah I see
22:03 why would glowing womb help for this? Great video!
glowing womb is a % and also lets us get broken vessel
@@FIREOWLHK
Lol my question was how does glowing womb help to get broken vessel. Not about it being a %
@@l.n.3372 oh, the hatchlings can hit the shade to aggro it, you can then simply use the shade to skip up to bv
@@FIREOWLHK
Fascinating, I'd never have guessed!
i never knew that charm notches gave a full heal
how specific
awesome video!!
The fact that max% no skils
Has more precent than low% hollow knight true ending speedrun
Bro you’re a legend
This is really cool 😁😁😁
fun fact:
I did the aspid skip to Hornet 2 on my very first playthrough of the game
on accident
Zote is dead because the flag for Zote's death was probably set by defeating Mantis Lords because the devs probably didn't think anyone would defeat Mantis Lords without getting Claw.
apparently the trigger is actually talking to lemm
your videos never fail to entertain me
17:30 - 17:50 why did you need to do a shade skip here? can't you just pogo on the background object to get up there?
you can only do that background object pogo if you have claw
Great video, but I did see something odd at 9:30, you passed through your shade without taking damage.
yeah im not sure what happened there, i think it’s just a hollow knight hitbox moment
Isn't it crazy that precisely 1/3 of the base game is achievable without abilities?
No... This gotta be a coincidence
hey do think we didnt notice the ori music u put there 🙃
if having dream nail doesn’t add a lot, there would be no reason to have another video imo but it does seem interesting
it adds a good amount of % actually
was watching original upload and it got to the just before hornet 2 fight part where you were saying you dont want to do this again so win first try and then it said video unavailable and i thought that was an editing joke coz you failed the fight first try and were mad 😂but turns out it was really unavailable 😂😂😂
that’s really funny. i promise i did get it first try though :)
So wait is King's Brand just not considered an ability for this...? (since the prompt when you get it looks similar to an ability but it doesn't give any additional movement options or whatever, it just opens one door and that's it)
its not according to the speedrun rules, weird i know
Whoa, just noticed I’ve watched like all your videos but haven’t subscribed yet! Very sorry, it won’t happen again.
I have had that happen durring a Mantis Lords fight too. Afaik techically that should be impossible. The code is supposed to prevent them from using any one attack too many times in a row. But TC Spagetti go brr, I guess.
you cant trust team cherry code
@@FIREOWLHK Also idk if the rest can be done but the first jump on Thorns of Agony can be done with a Shade Skip
@@Ender_Onryo the rest needs a shade unfortunately
@@FIREOWLHK Don't suppose MoP + Long Nail can hit the vine through the platform with a side slash.
@@Ender_Onryo mark of pride requires you to reach fungal first
What about dash slash?