Oh Linda, you are my new hero, I don't know how you aren't crying all the way through this video 😅 In true "counting your chickens before they hatch style" I would have already bought the new fruit trees, with the money I was 'going' to make from all the jam I was 'going' to sell from all that mummified fruit. Thanks for sharing (watching for the second time now), I really enjoy your channel. ❤
Haha thanks Alison!! I hadn’t looked at the second tree before making the video as I had just expected it to be the same as the first - so I felt like a winner in the end 😆
Im glad you had some beautiful fruit to harvest . What a shame about the rotten ones. Growing fruit can be so challenging. Every peach on our one producing tree ,fell off because we tried watering it with our bore water when we had a very dry spell and not enough of any other water. We completely lost 4 avos , 2 strawberry mangoes and every lemon,lime , elderberry and pumpkin that was forming dropped off . Everything else was crook but is recovering now. Growing food definitely keeps up on our toes . 🤪 i hope you get more harvests this year . Thank you for the fantastic info. Ill be sure to watch out for these problems ❤❤
Oh my problems pale in insignificance compared to all you e had to contend with!! But yes growing food definitely has its challenges! Thanks Naomi I hope the rest of your season gives some rewards x
Oh, sorry about the brown rot, weather has been crazy this year, hopefully you can treat it. Was also thinking a trim will be required how much? You may need to remove all the chop and drop around the base of the trees I’m happy to see the last peach and plumbs tree was much better in health.😊
Thanks Rick ! I’m going to have to research - I don’t want to move the chop and drop material as it’s building soil and a healthy soil helps create resilient trees. Maybe if I keep building soil (but not with infected material) eventually the soil will improve to a point it will impact the tree positively. And if not replace the tree with a more resilient variety or totally different variety! Opening up to more light and are is definitely something I have to do and pray the weather is kinder next year! Thanks for watching once again 😊
I had probably 3-4 dozen peaches on my tiny little tree. Was very excited was going to be best harvest so far this year. its still fairly young. Darn brown rot hit me hard i lost them all. Thanks for sharing the info I'll be ready for next year :D
Oh dear, i've never heard of it either but i'd be very wary of putting potential fungal problems into a compost without being certain that the heat will kill it entirely. I'm so sadmyou've lost such promising harvests. Love to know how you get on with the management for this. Its been very wet and humid here this summer too so its good to be forewarned of potential issues.
I don’t have any experience with fruit trees, but my gut tells me there’s too much vegetation surrounding the trees, causing a humid microclimate that the tree doesn’t like. My mum used to have great stone fruit trees, that were all planted out in the open, with lots of airflow and sunshine 🌞 We’re all learning all the time 😃
Yep - all that vegetation really caught up on me this year - other years there hasn't been so much. My tendency to leave a lot of flowering support trees because of my bees needs to change haha!!
oh no, the poor peaches (and others). I hope you find out, what it is and what can be done! If warm and wet conditions is the (main?) problem, maybe cutting the surrounding trees back more will help, because it will be more "air-y" and the leaves and fruit can dry faster. That's why the vase-shaped prunig - or pruning in general is adviced.
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture Yeah, the swales "popped". Is brown rot the same as Monilia? My sweet cherry (VERY big, very old tree, was maybe planted as the house was build or soon after, so about 1954) always has fruit mummies, but the tree is so big, I can't pick them. I don't even pick up those that fall down. It seems to me, that they are "mummified" when nobody (me or the birds) picks them, when ripe. Most of the over ripe cherries fall down, and thoese that don't then turn into those mummies. It does not seem to impair the tree, and I live here since 2007. The sour cherry right next to it has Monilia every year, that does not seem to affect any of my other trees - which are ALL planted too tight. My nectaries have curly leave, but I'm not sure if that is the fungal one or because of aphids - I always find them in the curles leaves.
It’s a statewide issue due to the unseasonally wet year. No sprays or any action we take will make any difference unfortunately. It doesn’t ’spread,’ it sets in.
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture we have the same situation in Eastern Vic with all our stone fruit and the peaches did this last year also (rot, die back and weeping sap). We just prune out any dead/damaged branches and it comes good the year after. No need to worry unless they die back right down to the rootstock! The die back is the trees survival strategy to cull its own damaged branches.
Oh thanks Kerry - that’s exactly what’s going on. That tree is affected from top to bottom- mmm not looking good for it. Maybe be a complete chop down 😢 How is your tree(s)?
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture I moved house, only know what it was from gardening books (b4 google). As far as I know, copper sulphate monthly after leaf drop. Not when flowering? I haven't put it in to practice. It might be something to look at in a new variety 🤔
All fruit with any of that discoloration needs to be removed immediately. Don't touch healthy fruits after touching diseased ones. Oooops! You just did that!! The mummified fruits are last year's diseased fruits that should have been removed a year ago. Don't ever put fruits picked up from the ground, even if they look good, with healthy fruits, or they will rot very quickly. You could process them as soon as you pick them up. Having said all that, mum's seedling peaches never had their mummified fruits removed or cleared up, and she had some diseased fruit every year, but she also harvested lots of good peaches!
I processed the fruit straight away and disposed of any bad fruits. I’ve frozen all that I saved so I figure it should be fine for jam or chutneys - something super heated!
Please don't put anything in the compost but burn the affected branches / fruit. The spores might infect your compost. Don't quote me but something is ringing a bell that I have heard the info somewhere. I have a virus, I think, in some of my tomatoes. Not happy at all as they were bought seedlings. Sigh just treating in case it's bugs but don't think so, so may have to dig them out. Take care =-)
Oh no not good about your tomatoes 😔 I’ve heard Charles dowding say to put anything in your compost and the heat should deal with it - may do some more research on the subject 👍 Thanks Lorraine- good luck with those tomatoes 🍅
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Oh Linda, you are my new hero, I don't know how you aren't crying all the way through this video 😅
In true "counting your chickens before they hatch style" I would have already bought the new fruit trees, with the money I was 'going' to make from all the jam I was 'going' to sell from all that mummified fruit.
Thanks for sharing (watching for the second time now), I really enjoy your channel. ❤
Haha thanks Alison!! I hadn’t looked at the second tree before making the video as I had just expected it to be the same as the first - so I felt like a winner in the end 😆
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture I was 100% cheering when you unveiled the peach! Imagine a whole winter without jams on the toast 😳 🤣
Im glad you had some beautiful fruit to harvest . What a shame about the rotten ones. Growing fruit can be so challenging. Every peach on our one producing tree ,fell off because we tried watering it with our bore water when we had a very dry spell and not enough of any other water. We completely lost 4 avos , 2 strawberry mangoes and every lemon,lime , elderberry and pumpkin that was forming dropped off . Everything else was crook but is recovering now. Growing food definitely keeps up on our toes . 🤪 i hope you get more harvests this year . Thank you for the fantastic info. Ill be sure to watch out for these problems ❤❤
Oh my problems pale in insignificance compared to all you e had to contend with!! But yes growing food definitely has its challenges!
Thanks Naomi I hope the rest of your season gives some rewards x
Oh, sorry about the brown rot, weather has been crazy this year, hopefully you can treat it.
Was also thinking a trim will be required how much?
You may need to remove all the chop and drop around the base of the trees
I’m happy to see the last peach and plumbs tree was much better in health.😊
Thanks Rick ! I’m going to have to research - I don’t want to move the chop and drop material as it’s building soil and a healthy soil helps create resilient trees. Maybe if I keep building soil (but not with infected material) eventually the soil will improve to a point it will impact the tree positively. And if not replace the tree with a more resilient variety or totally different variety! Opening up to more light and are is definitely something I have to do and pray the weather is kinder next year!
Thanks for watching once again 😊
I had probably 3-4 dozen peaches on my tiny little tree. Was very excited was going to be best harvest so far this year. its still fairly young. Darn brown rot hit me hard i lost them all. Thanks for sharing the info I'll be ready for next year :D
It’s so sad to lose them all! Good luck next year and thanks for watching!!
Oh dear, i've never heard of it either but i'd be very wary of putting potential fungal problems into a compost without being certain that the heat will kill it entirely. I'm so sadmyou've lost such promising harvests. Love to know how you get on with the management for this. Its been very wet and humid here this summer too so its good to be forewarned of potential issues.
Yeah I’ll do more homework before adding to compost - it might go to a burn pile! I’ll be sure to update on how they go
I don’t have any experience with fruit trees, but my gut tells me there’s too much vegetation surrounding the trees, causing a humid microclimate that the tree doesn’t like. My mum used to have great stone fruit trees, that were all planted out in the open, with lots of airflow and sunshine 🌞 We’re all learning all the time 😃
Yep - all that vegetation really caught up on me this year - other years there hasn't been so much. My tendency to leave a lot of flowering support trees because of my bees needs to change haha!!
That was my first thought as well. Needs more open air circulation and sunshine.
oh no, the poor peaches (and others). I hope you find out, what it is and what can be done!
If warm and wet conditions is the (main?) problem, maybe cutting the surrounding trees back more will help, because it will be more "air-y" and the leaves and fruit can dry faster. That's why the vase-shaped prunig - or pruning in general is adviced.
Thanks Martina - will certainly be doing that! The trees have grown so much in the last year that the crowding really snuck up on me! Lessons learned!
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture Yeah, the swales "popped".
Is brown rot the same as Monilia?
My sweet cherry (VERY big, very old tree, was maybe planted as the house was build or soon after, so about 1954) always has fruit mummies, but the tree is so big, I can't pick them. I don't even pick up those that fall down. It seems to me, that they are "mummified" when nobody (me or the birds) picks them, when ripe. Most of the over ripe cherries fall down, and thoese that don't then turn into those mummies. It does not seem to impair the tree, and I live here since 2007. The sour cherry right next to it has Monilia every year, that does not seem to affect any of my other trees - which are ALL planted too tight. My nectaries have curly leave, but I'm not sure if that is the fungal one or because of aphids - I always find them in the curles leaves.
There seemed to be less buttercup (an indicator of wet soil) under the peach that had less rot. Hope rest of summer is dry enough but not too dry!
Mmm I hadn’t picked up on that. I’ll check them out again - soil should be much the same for both I would have thought but hey maybe not!??
It’s a statewide issue due to the unseasonally wet year. No sprays or any action we take will make any difference unfortunately. It doesn’t ’spread,’ it sets in.
Thanks Marisa - any thoughts on that sad looking peach tree with all the sap dripping?
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture we have the same situation in Eastern Vic with all our stone fruit and the peaches did this last year also (rot, die back and weeping sap). We just prune out any dead/damaged branches and it comes good the year after. No need to worry unless they die back right down to the rootstock! The die back is the trees survival strategy to cull its own damaged branches.
@marisaphoenix1893 thanks Marisa - I’ll give them a good prune 👍
Sap, gummosis. I have had the problem in conjunction with leaf curl in victoria. Look it up😢
On a peach!
Oh thanks Kerry - that’s exactly what’s going on. That tree is affected from top to bottom- mmm not looking good for it.
Maybe be a complete chop down 😢
How is your tree(s)?
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture I moved house, only know what it was from gardening books (b4 google). As far as I know, copper sulphate monthly after leaf drop. Not when flowering? I haven't put it in to practice. It might be something to look at in a new variety 🤔
I did notice (gummosis and leaf curl) they come out more in wet weather!
Lots of homework to do I think! Thanks again for the diagnosis!!
All fruit with any of that discoloration needs to be removed immediately. Don't touch healthy fruits after touching diseased ones. Oooops! You just did that!! The mummified fruits are last year's diseased fruits that should have been removed a year ago. Don't ever put fruits picked up from the ground, even if they look good, with healthy fruits, or they will rot very quickly. You could process them as soon as you pick them up.
Having said all that, mum's seedling peaches never had their mummified fruits removed or cleared up, and she had some diseased fruit every year, but she also harvested lots of good peaches!
I processed the fruit straight away and disposed of any bad fruits. I’ve frozen all that I saved so I figure it should be fine for jam or chutneys - something super heated!
@@huttonsvalleypermaculture I'm so glad you did end up with a bountiful harvest from one tree, at least! They looked superb.
Please don't put anything in the compost but burn the affected branches / fruit. The spores might infect your compost. Don't quote me but something is ringing a bell that I have heard the info somewhere. I have a virus, I think, in some of my tomatoes. Not happy at all as they were bought seedlings. Sigh just treating in case it's bugs but don't think so, so may have to dig them out. Take care =-)
Oh no not good about your tomatoes 😔
I’ve heard Charles dowding say to put anything in your compost and the heat should deal with it - may do some more research on the subject 👍
Thanks Lorraine- good luck with those tomatoes 🍅