The Down Side of Being A Physician Assistant
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2017
- Peace be to you (AsSalama'laikum) all! I have been a medically licensed Physician Assistant for almost 16 years. I was asked to discuss this topic. I honestly can't accurately compare being a Physician Assistant to being a Doctor, because I haven't been an MD or DO. I only have three "cons" that I could consider: less money, less prestige, less autonomy, less knowledge (than the MD/DO). However the "pro" to this is: less student loan debt, less accountability, more time to engage in other aspects of one's life. PA vs MD/DO is a VERY personalized decision. I am a VERY dedicated family man. And have a great passion foe community service. I am also a fitness, science, and education enthusiast. Being a PA has allowed me to pursue these interest. I hope my circuitous answer helps some people make decisions about their academic choices and careers! I have REALLY enjoyed being a Physician Assistant for all these years! And amVERY grateful to my creator for guiding me to this AWESOME PROFESSION! I wisv you all the VERY best of succes in your positive endeavors! Please subscribe to my channel! Peace!
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C
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The downside:
- Your salary is capped compared to the corporate world, it won't keep up with the inflation. Lately salaries have been going down due to insurance reimbursement cuts. You'll work more for less pay the more you advance in your PA career.
- Non-compete doesn't let you change jobs easily (you have to move and start over).
- Staff will treat you with less respect compared to docs.
- Patients will ask you when are you going to finish med school over and over.
- You will have to see patients your doc doesn't want to see (medicaid, prisoners, etc).
- You will be called "mid level" even after practicing for decades.
The Up Side:
- You will have amazing loyal patients who would never trade you for a physician.
- You will learn medicine and it will improve your own life.
- You will have job security (not your particular one, but in general the field is growing, including other countries).
- You will spend a lot less time in school (no residency!)
- You can change specialties more easily than docs if necessary.
- You can work part-time and still have a decent income.
You're right on point! I remember when I first made $100,000/ year. I thought that was SO much money! NOW, it's like, I could BARELY support my family on that. The houses in my neighborhood are going for more than $1 million. It's jacked my property taxes up. AND, my kids' college tuitions have skyrocketed. I don't see how folks are surviving on less than that. The demands are greater for us too (CDS, DEA, own malpractice, CMEs, etc.).
Sir I don't know you but I can feel your kindness seeping out of this video!!! Stay blessed!!!
What a kind comment! I thank you for that! Be well and, stay safe!😊😷❤🙌🏾👨🏾⚕️
A physician assistant is just as great as a physician I am still inspired by you. You are an awesome person
Renee Lvs Thanks Renee! 😀😊
So true!!!
Some are but in general no
You’re priorities sir are aligned correctly
Matthew Norrod Yeah, the inner-peace I feel confirms that!😊☝🏾️
Ur wife is blessed to have a husband like urself a man that is focus on being a good husband n father n being a servent of Allah ... Alhumdullilah 😃😃😃😃😀
Aminah A Alhamdu'liLah!😊
Mashallah.
Thank you for taking the time to share this information, I've really been battling between the two, your video has helped me put things into context. Thank you!
Raquel G. I'm glad to be of service!🤓
So what did you decide? Just curious
You had me at the first 1:13 of this video. Brother I am praying for you and I hope that you have all the things you want out of life. I too feel that titles are not a big issue in this world but rather how we live and Serve Yahweh. I could tell right off that you are good in spirit. God bless you and your hands that you may do the good will of our almighty God. Peace and blessings to you and your family!!! 🤗💕🤗
Phia Mac What a BEAUTIFUL message! Thank you SO much for that positive energy!🤓
I really appreciate you and this video! I believe I have been inspired to peruse PA over PT! Thank you for continuing to spread love and peace be with you.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad it helped you!🙂👋🏽👨🏾⚕️
Assalamualaikum and Ramadan Mubarak! I wanted to let you know that you have been an inspiration, mA! Alhamdulilah, I was recently accepted into PA school after 3 application cycles!! I will be definitely incorporating the highlights of your videos into my education and career, inshallah. Jazak Allahu kheir ☺️
AsSalama'laikum dear sister! Ramadan Mubarak to YOU as well!😃THREE CYCLES!?😰 It's just mind-boggling to me at how TOUGH PA school admissions has become!😩 I have communicated with pre-PA students who have close to PERFECT GPAs and THOUSANDS of hours of direct-patient-contact-hours! And, they STILL didn't get into PA school on the first try!😣 Other students got rejected from PA school but, got ACCEPTED to medical school!!😅 I'm SO HAPPY for you! I hope you do VERY well, insha'Allah! May AllahSubanahwa'ta'Allah forgive us for our sins, accept our siam and, answer our duas during this blessed month! Take care!🤓👋🏾👨🏾⚕️
Fantastic video! Thank you for sharing your insights about the the P.A. profession.
eliqrrt Thank YOU for watching and commenting!
You are so honest, authentic, and humble. Rare to find people like you these days, especially on TH-cam!
I'm just trying to be the BEST version of myself that I can be!😊
Thank you so much for this, I can’t speak for everyone but I can speak for myself. You’ve helped me a lot today.
Thank YOU!😊I'm glad my videos are helping people!👋🏾👨🏽⚕️
I'm glad that you are struggling to think about the downsides of being a PA!
I am taking pre-req courses now to apply to PA programs, but I am still wondering if I should go for it.
Thank you for making this video!
Anime why wonder. You can do it. PA school is the way to go, especially if you love the flexibility of spending time with your family & friends. Less time in school. At least if you choose to become a PA it will give you the opportunity to see if you want to move on to a specialty. Go for it. Why not?
I am in the same position as you I don't know if I am ready for the intensity of it
Thank you so much for sharing! I love your positive attitude and absolute passion for this profession. I am an aspiring PA who currently works in health care innovation. Getting ready to start my journey by doing my post bac this upcoming year. Excited to watch more of your videos! -Emersyn
Emersyn Io Hi there! I wish you the VERY best of succes in your endeavors! You're gonna be an AWESOME Physician Assistant, Lord willing!
thank you very much!!
Thank you for your service and all the great work you do…:)
Thank YOU, for watching and, for your kind comments!😊👋🏾👨🏾⚕️
Thank you so much for your vids. It's helping me decide what route I want to go.
CheapSushi Thanks for watching and for your comments. What do you THINK you want to do at this time in your life? You seem to have a keen interest in music. Is that correct? There's a health field called "Music Therapy". You may want to look into that.
57 sec into the story is all I really needed to hear . Wonderful But , I will listen to the rest of your wisdom for my personal interest .
oldtimedrumcorps Thanks! I hope it helped.
Still is great to feel the satisfaction to help people and see that you made a difference in their lives.
C. Huseyin ABSOLUTELY!😁
Thank you for your candid video. I am very interested in being a PA. I really think PA is a good fit for me. I am not interested in the prestige or title. I enjoy connecting and helping us others.
Here’s my struggle, I’ve been out of school for over 20 years. I started out as a Med Tech and moved on to become a pharm rep. Although, I’ve been successful it is not fulfilling. I don’t know where to began. So, far I’ve been taking it day by day and researching. I just hope I’m not too old by the time I apply to some PA schools. Again, thank you and I will continue to follow you. You seem honest and really want to help others. Thank you so much!
Kimberly Payne-Brown GOOD GRIEF! I thought I had responded to you! I apologize!😰 Please contact me on Instagram and I'll send you my email and number. We can talk! 😊
You’re never too old!
Not too old. PA is good field right now. Job rate is 30% and a residency for a year will look good.
Hi Kimberly, I hope you already started your career path! I started to study my second career after 21 years at age 41. Now I have a Bachelor's degree in Psychology and I am considering going to PA school in one year or so... at age 48 or so... if I can do it for you too! :D it is never late to follow your heart and goals :D
@@artedeverasstudio7739 Wow! Thank you so much for your words of encouragement! I have just started studying for my GRE. Without going into too much detail, its been a working process. LOL :)
Thanks for the insight! Keep it up.
Chan Nghiem Thanks!🤓
Salaam! JazakAllah kheir for this. I needed the extra push for my PA application
Walaikumas'Salam! I'm glad it helped you!😊❤☝🏾️
Thank you for such nice videos. Lots of respect to you sir.
Thank YOU, for watching and, for you comment!😊
I really enjoy your videos. Completely off topic, but you have amazing skin. I currently work in the cosmetic industry and am going back to school in the spring to finish my bachelor's degree. Your videos and Dr Andre's are helping me decide between med and pa school.
AngelaKnari Awww shucks!!! Thanks! I'm actually blushing! It's one the MANY gifts the good Lord gave me! I used to have ALOT of skin issues (zits, pimples, very dry or at times, too oily) as a teen! But I tried to cut out ALOT of sugary stuff from my diet. And replaced gallons of soda with H2O. It seemed to help. Do you think you would like to go into Dermatology? It a greatly needed specialty where you can REALLY help people. AND, it's VERY lucrative for both PAs and MDs.
IPHLO,LLC w/Dr.O the PA Pro Yes. My dream is to be a dermatologist.
@@AngelaKnari Be wary though. Derm is one, if not, the most competitive specialty. You'll often find that Derm residents have extremely high step scores ( 90th+ % from what I hear) and a lot of pubs with other EC.
If you are set on derm, the PA route may be the best way to approach this specialty!
It's the Nur, Mashallah!!
@@mohamedosman2613 Insha'Allah!😊❤☝🏽️
Great videos! Now that im out of the army ill be pursuing the PA path 100%
toddrocks You can do it! You're going to be an AWESOME Physician Assistant! BTW, you may be able to get the Army to pay for your education.
I was watchingthis with headphones in a hospital in a secluded room where I would expect to hear the overhead pager and the vent alarms....I got scared as shit when I heard that sound in your video
anaranjado12 LOL-🤣 Sorry about that it gets me too! Especially, when I am deeply focusing on something! My heart JUMPS! AAAH!😨😰😱
There's this one guy with a voice that sounds like Darth Vader (James Earl Jones)! When HE makes over-head announcements, MAAAAN! YAEEEI!!😨
Happened to me too!! 😱had me scared for a sec.
Me too hahaha
Great video! I agree with you and really promote the PA field when I speak to students or anyone interested in PA vs MD
Patrong Peou Thanks! I like YOUR channel, BTW; just subscribed! I'm trying cut my own sugar addiction!🤣
Awesome, thanks so much for the support. Always great to help promote our field :)
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro Also added your channel to my featured channel list! :)
I love the thing he said towards the end "I can't think of too much downside to being a PA", however, I think the people who choose to go towards the PA profession do not care so much for the prestige and the autonomy is something that comes with experience and trust obviously but this was a great video. Does not deter me from pursuing my goal of being a PA.
Thanks for watching and, for your comments . I hope you get into PA school!😃You can do it!👋🏾👨🏾⚕️
you seem like such a nice guy! thanks for the video!
Thank YOU, for watching!
Awesome man! No downside just niche!
Omar, you represent us PA'S well. Be of Good Courage. Thanks
Thanks!😀👍🏾👨🏾⚕️
mA Akhi, InshAllah this is why i hope to become a PA for these reasons, JZK
OGspitta May it come true, insha'Allah!😁
Dear sir,
Thank you a lot for this video! I’ve been waivwrinf back and forth on which way to go in terms of medicine. You definitely solidified that PA school is the way to go. Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences with us!
Sharon Sharon You're welcome Sharon! Don't forget, you can always go to Medical School after completing your PA sojourn. I know a number of people who have done This! However, I think that you will REALLY enjoy being a PA SO much, that you won't want to change!😉
You're an inspiration !
Susan Cooper Thanks Susan! 😄Do you mind telling me, do you have an interest in medicine or a career in the healthcare field?🤔
Thanks for the video boss!
Matt Ball Thank YOU, for watching!😊
Also Mash Allah brother I took my Shahada almost a year ago it's always good to see another Muslim brother in the medical field God Bless. I'm not sure if u ever heard of Hakim Quick and Khalid Yasin I learned a lot about Islam from these men. Like I said u remind a lot of myself I hope to have a family someday just like u. Good luck to u brother Omar.
Biochemp33 AsSalama'laikum dear brother! Alhamdu'liLah you took your shadhadah !😊☝🏾️🕋 May AllahSubanawata'Allah grant you success in your positive endeavors and give you the strength to meet your life's challenges! Yes, I am familiar with the brothers who you named. They have played pivotal roles in spreading the deen especially in the Black American community.
Thank you
mike m You're welcome! 😊
0:29-1:15...🙌..Yes, Amen!! Praise our creator for giving you this wisdom brother! Now, back to this awesome video. You were preaching the good word on that day, awesome content👏👏👏
Peace be to you! Thanks for noticing! I feel the Lord has given me so MUCH that, I really don't feel I have ANY "downsides" to the life I have now.
Do you still have time for family and a hobby as a PA? My biggest worry is that I won't have time for family, hobby/entertainment (not a lot), or exercise and that I'll be over-stressed! Thank you for the video as well!
Elizabeth Hi there! Yes, I do quite a bit. I'm an athlete, dad, husband, community servant, writer, business man and, mentor. Please check out my workout videos! Are you planning on applying to PA school?
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro That is awesome! Family is very important to me. I am! I live in Georgia and I'm starting university this August.
when he said there aren't any downsides literally relieve !
Hoda M It's a GREAT career! Alhamdu'liLah!😊
Alhumdullilah this is a great field 😄 a lot of good deeds
Aminah A Alhamdu'liLah!😊☝🏾️🕋
Asallamu alaikum, awesome video man. Currently finishing my first year of PA school. Great channel you have going on here. Subbed!
Noimus Salam WalaikumaSalam dear brother! Shukran for your support! JazakAllahkhair!🤓
salam aleikum
where do you go to school bro? im finishing my undergrad and plan on becoming a pa. How difficult is the program. im looking at a 2 year program at MCPHS in Massachusetts. its 1 year of classes and 1 year of clinicals. I could use some advice
thanks
s r WalaikumaSalam dear brother! This is my academic training: B.S. in Biology from University of the District of Columbia in 94', B.S. in Physician Assistant from Howard University in 00', MPAS from University of Nebraska Medical Center in 03', Doctorate of Health Education from A.T. Still University School of Health Management in 2012.
I've read about the program in Massachusetts to which you are applying. It's quite good! I BELIEVE they may even have a Doctorate of Medical Science for PA students if I'm not mistaken. Just get a decent GPA (3.2 to 3.5), GRE scores, and adequate number of direct-patient-contact-hours. Please see my videos on the "PA School Interviews" or Dave Dubois the PA Coach. You SHOULD get in, insha'Allah!😊☝️🕋
I plan on getting cna certification to get patient contact hours inshallah, My science gpa is 3.6 and I am studying for GRE. My only issue is getting shadowing hours. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks
May Allah bless you with goodness in this life and the next, I an really appreciative of seeing this from the life of another muslim. It is all about priorities. Spouse and family are our responsibility, very same reason why I am deciding on this career. I am so grateful I came across your video, Alhumdulillah . Assalamualaikum from Michigan!
AsSalama'laikum dear fellow Muslim! JazakAllahkhair for that BEAUTIFUL dua! I hope you get into and through, PA school, insha'Allah!😊❤☝🏾️🕋📖👋🏽👨🏽⚕️🏨
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro Aameen, Jazakallah khair Brother! May Allah be pleased with us aameen!
This helped me a lot! I'm a woman looking into being a P.A., but I know I want to be a parent. Do you think being a P.A. allows you to have more time with your family than per say a doctor? Thank you for your time!
Natalie Christine Hi there! Well, it REALLY depends on what you do in terms of specialty.
Alhamdulillah. May Allah continue to bless you and your family. 👍🏾
Ameen! Ameen! AMEEN!😊☝🏾️
Thank you so much!!! I'm actually stuck deciding between Physician Assistant or Pathology Assistant. I really like the idea of doing autopsies and specializing in that, but I also like the idea of patient care. Do you know of any Physician Assistants in Pathology? I'm trying to prepare for either and applying for a 2020 program.
Samia J Yes, there was a PA who was actually the Director of the Morgue back in the late 90s. I'll try to find out someone for you, Lord willing.
I don’t like to be told what to do and what to not! Thank you 😊
Yeah, it really depends on the dynamics of WHERE you're working as a PA. In some rare cases, they're functioning with almost complete autonomy. However, this is almost out of necessity in isolated, under-served areas. Please see the video link.👇🏽th-cam.com/video/vzY3f1gz9mw/w-d-xo.html
mashallah god bless you! I recently dropped Dentistry and thinking of a career switch. I've always loved Medicine , so this is definitely one I'm considering
AsSalama'laikum dear sister! Please contact me on Instagram o_Abdulmalik
@sarah do you mind telling me why did you drop dentistry as i'm considering it as a career path
@@fareedfarah1495 of course! I dropped it because after working as a dental assistant while studying for my DAT exam, I realized its not for me. Hands-on experience is much different than what you hear from others/ watch / shadow. I'm glad I got the experience and realized early on! everyone is different - for me it was too mechanical-like, and personally I don't enjoy that stuff. I'm more of a thinker/explainer type.
Thank you!
You're welcome! Thank YOU, for watching!😊👋🏾👨🏾⚕️
Thank you Dr. Abdul-Malik. You are an inspiration. May God bless you!
Thanks so much, for your kind words!😀
Mashallah..you are the best man!
May Allah bless you. Ameen.
Joelle Khan AsSalama'laikum dear sister! May Allah Subanahwa'ta'Allah grant us ALL good health, happiness and success in our positive endeavors!😊☝🏾️
Wow!! $400,000 is a lot to pay back 👀👀!! Thank you for addressing my question!! I believe PA will fit my interest better!! I'm not a person who live for a "title". Also, I never thought about the downsides of more autonomy 😯😯!! Thanks for mentioning that!! Furthermore, I never thought about the connection between nursing & getting a masters in Healthcare admin. I have my bachelors in healthcare admin but I'm having a hard time finding a job in my field, so I'm not sure if I would like the business side vs clinical side of healthcare 😪. Anyways, Thanks again!
thenightdances21 Yeah! Please see a vlog by Dr.Antonio Webb, MD about astronomical student loan debt. Also, an earlier video I did about how to pay off student loans for Medical School.
IPHLO,LLC w/Dr.O the PA Pro will do!! Thank you!! 🙂
th-cam.com/video/1BY2HRwzp6U/w-d-xo.html watch this for perspective of nurse turned md
thenightdances21 I'm going through the same thing! What did you decide to do? I'm thinking about going back for PA school. I don't know if health care administration is for me. I'm currently working as an administrator and it seems like it's going to take many years before I can start climbing the corporate ladder.
the avg debt is $150-200k
Nice video and a very positive spirit. Are there schools that offer online PA degrees? Also can a physical therapist go for PA training? Thanks
Most, if not all PA schools have adopted an on-line teaching paradigm at present, because of Covid-19 pandemic. However, that is not the norm. There are no on-line PA schools. A PT CAN become a PA after attending PA school.
Hello Mr. Abdul-Malik, my question to you would be on average (that you know of) how much are PA's coming out of their program in debt? You mentioned MD's come out with roughly 300K and make that avg/yr. Are PA's coming out with roughly 100K in debt? Thank you in advance! :)
Laura Ramirez Hi there. Since the PA profession NOW requires a master's degree, students are having to take out more loan money to complete their undergrads (often in Biology and/Nursing). The good thing is that PAs still MAKE more than they owe in MANY cases.
Stay safe brother...Amin
I shall, insha'Allah!😊❤☝🏾️
Ma shaa Allah I’m in shaa Allah planning to be a physician assistant
AsSalama'laikum! You can do it, insha'Allah!😊❤☝🏾️
I know some have even stated that PAs do not get respect and tossed away as assistants or patients may not understand the role of a PA and refuse service. Healthcare administration is good if you are a nurse (double duty for less pay). It looks like you love your job many cannot say that one. Peace be with you.
Anthony Wallace DrPHC MA BSc Greetings Dr.Wallace! Those are good points! I am very blessed and privileged to be part of a supportive team (at work AND at home)! It makes it easier to enjoy my work and career! BTW, can you do a couple a videos about YOUR profession? I was curious about the work of a DrPHC. Thanks!😊
Brother Omar u remind me so much of myself about a year ago I was interested in Hospital Pharmacy now after watching your videos and learning more about Physician Assistant I have switched. Right now I work as a pharmacy technician at Walmart it isn't easy by any means. My question for u sir if I want to be a Physician Assistant someday am I wasting my time being a pharmacy technician? I would really appreciate the advice.
Biochemp33 Greetings! While Pharm tech is great for familiarizing yourself with Pharmacy-knowledge you will DEFINITELY need in PA school-it does not help you garner the direct-patient-contact-hours you need for PA school. I would suggest keeping your PT job as a source of income but, complete a 6 week Certified Nursing Assistant or Phlebotomy program in the meantime. Also, find out the pre-reqs you need for the PA schools to which you plan to apply. I hope this helps. I wish you the VERY best of succes in your positive endeavors. I'll do what I can to help you accomplish them, insha'Allah (Lord willing)!😀
who the hell wants the responsibility of a doctor anyway 😂
Yeah, I see the doctors attending multiple "very important doctor meetings."😩😴 No thanks!😅
Hi Omar! thank you for your video... I am interested in going to PA school and I would like a little guidance.
Please contact me on Instagram o_Abdulmalik
salam aleikum
makes me proud seeing a fellow brother as a medical professional and specially a pa I could use some advice from. im a 28 year old and have a 3 year old and am married. I am finishing my bachelors in biomedical sciences. I have worked as a pharmacy tech but do not have any patient contact experience. I am thinking about going to pharmacy school or pa school. I really want to experience face to face patient interaction. Im sure you love being a pa. I am trying to watch your videos. I have noticed that my pharmacist manager working 5-6 days per week and working 12 hour shifts. He loves the pay but Its discouraging knowing I would be spending less time with my family. I thank you for your time and sharing the wealth of information you talk about. What do you think are the pros and cons of PA vs pharmacist. I also live in New England and don't plan on moving anywhere else iA.
s r WalaikumaSalam! I'm going to interview a Pharmacist soon, insha'Allah! I have worked 5 to 6 days per week for 12 hours!😥😧😱It REALLY depends on what you want to do. Right now, I have decreased my time because I'm trying to help my wife with our kids more.
Salam aleikum,
That would be great! I will iA plan to watch the interview as soon as I see it. Inshallah you get to enjoy spending time w the kids and helping your wife. I do not mind the 12 hour days 5 days a week but I plan to iA spend my weekend w my family. Working for cvs would require me to work weekends on a rotating basis. The demand for pharmacists doesn't seem as high and I have been really discouraged from pharmacy.
thanks again
I heard about amazons purchase of pillpack. I was offered a job at pillpack, I think the future of pharmacy is in mail order pharmacies like pillpack. cvs is squeezing pharmacists and the area I live in has a very saturated pharmacy market.
thanks for the input
Ha! “Circuitous” indeed but a great answer still
blackl1steddrums 🤣THANKS! I'll try to be more succinct in my vlogs!😉
اللهم بارك. الله يحفظك و أهلك و عيالك
😃👋🏾👨🏾⚕️❤☝🏾️🕋🕌📖
I want nothing more than to become a PA. I wish there were more black PA’s in my area that I could talk to and possibly have a mentor. ive never seen a black clinician before so thank god for TH-cam !
Peace be to you! Thanks so much for your comments! WOW! I never really appreciate how few Black PA s there are until I see comments like yours! I've been to conferences in which there will only be a few of us out of ALL of the attendees! It can be a lonely existence (Google "pictures of PA classes" and look at the images😅). I give you my word that I will do what I can to help you actualize your dream! You can reach me on Instagram o_Abdulmalik or email OAbdulMali@aol.com
As Salamu Alaikum. You are an inspiration to me. May Allah bless you
Ameen!🙂❤️☝🏽🤲🏽
Thank you
You're welcome! Thank YOU, for watching!😊
Hey there, Dr. O! Just a quick question. Does it make sense to go for a Doctor of Science or just stick with the Masters degree?
Thanks so much!
J ScienceGirl It depends on what you want to do in the future! I would like to either be assistant director or chair of a PA program someday. The requirement for MANY schools is that the PA should have a Doctorate in a related field. Also, I think that PAs should pursue doctoral degrees because of our expanding roles in healthcare (e.g. clinical directors, principal investigators for research, program directors, etc.). It increases a PA's options, depth of knowledge, and skill set. I've been able to be considered for some AMAZING positions because I have a Doctorate of Health Education. While I do NOT think that PA programs should become obligatory doctoral program. I DO encourage PA to pursue a Doctorate in a related field (e.g. DHEd, Doctor of Health Science, PhD, etc.). I hope this answered your question. Peace!🤓
Thank you! This does help me make a better informed decision.
I am currently in a DMSc program hoping to teach beyond my current position as Adjunct instructor at our local community college. Would like to explore positions in DC (licensed 6 months) but have been applying with no interviews. Any suggestions on getting an interview after taking time off as FT caregiver for 3 yesrs with my mom with breast cancer?
Hi Dr. Omar I am a current high school senior who is working towards becoming a PA. Could you elaborate on having more autonomy in rural areas vs urban areas? Are supervising physicians mainly there to answer questions for PAs ?
Hi. Yes, these are rare cases in which there are NO doctors in a particular area. A PA can run his own clinic. He STILL has to have a licensing, supervisory agreement with a doctor who HAS to be able to communicate by phone/computer. Please see the link below of this PA-owned practice in Nebraska.
th-cam.com/video/vzY3f1gz9mw/w-d-xo.html
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro I watched the video, thank you for the recommendation. It was a great video!
Salam! I'm really interested in going into the Healthcare field so I'm learning about my opportunities. When reading about PA schools, they require around 200 hours working with patients directly as a EMT, Medic, medical aide, etc. I was wondering when I'm supposed to get those hours in...Is this during my undergraduate or after?
Mariam Omar AsSalama'laikum dear sister! You HAVE to acquire your direct-patient-contact-hours (DPCH) BEFORE being accepted to PA school. Some schools MAY accept you pending DPCH completion. HOWEVER, it's NOT likely give the HIGHLY competitive nature of today s PA schools.
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C Thank you very much!
Hi Omar. I am considering the possibility of medical school, but I suffer from crohns disease. It's minor, not severe. Do you meet other PA's of MD's that have struggled with medical problems while there were going through med school?
Hi there! I apologize for the late response. Yes, I know fellow clinicians with atrial fibrillation (conduction problem of the heart💓), MS, cancer, depression and other conditions.
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro ms? Multiple schlorosis?
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Walikom As'Salam !!!
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I have a question if you want to be a PA, what kind of bachelors degree should be obtained to get into PA school? Thanks in advance.
Unique Lewis Hi Unique! I think a BS in Biology, Chemistry, or Biochemistry might be best because the prerequisites will be covered. However, you HAVE to the adequate number of direct-patient-contact-hours (DPCH) which can vary greatly in number depending on the program to which you are applying. I earned a BS in Biology whilst working as a certified nursing assistant (CNA) so I had covered with PA prerequisites and the DPCH. I hope this answered your question! Thanks for watching!😊
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C Hi, I was actually thinking about getting a job as a CNA, how was the schooling/training and pay like?
Hows the demand for PAs? Especially in the NOVA/DC area?
resyd4i4 It's HUGE! PA s in Washington, DC make and average of $106,000 per year. There is plenty of work for everyone!
I am currently a medical social worker. I have an msw and a ba in english. I want to start taking the pre-reqs cuz i dont have any science classes (maybe 2). Do you see the market becoming so overly saturated with PAs in the next 3yrs that I would be a dime a dozen? Or the profession would be akin to some lowly level job in a hospital?
Natalie Noel people will always get sick and the population is rapidly increasing. The next 10 years I believe the growth rate is 37% for PA's.
devin roberts thank you. Im guessing itll take about 3yrs for me. 🤞🤞🤞
devin roberts That's right Devin!😁
Hey N. Christmas I'm also a medical sw! And also thinking about this! How you taken any classes since then?
wa Alaikum Asalam
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Would a bachelor's in biology be better or worse than a bachelor's of science in EMS? The last year summer of EMS they work clinically as paramedics and then the last year they can choose a course layout that is focused on pre-PA/MD, diploma of mountain medicine, disaster control, EMS management, or individualized.
Paul Hi there! I would go the END route, if you're REALLY determined to become a PA. I wanted to be a Biologist since I was a little kid; had NO intention of doing anything in medicine. However, the E M S route will give you adequate exposure to ALL aspects of pre Med and pre PA (Clinical, science, and direct-patient-contact-hours).
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C The last summer of the EMS degree all the students work clinics hours as paramedics, the last year the students can choose where their classes are directed towards. The options are pre-PA/MD, mountain medicine, EMS management, and disaster management.
Paul That's a great program!
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C I don't believe I would choose this, but I forgot to mention they offer an international diploma in mountain medicine as a last year option too.
Assalamu alaikum Dr. Abdul-Malik, is it possible for me to email you directly. I have a Masters in Health and PhDc but I am a Mom of 4 children. How can I do it all? JazakaAllahu kheirun
Maryam Khalifa Benkhadra AsSalama'laikum dear sister! Here you go
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If I may ask, if you had a chance to change your career choice to a doctor. Would you ?
Chris Burke That is a very good question! I'm REALLY not sure! I've been able to do everything I want in medicine as a PA. I actually like having to educate people about what a PA is. However, saying, "I'm a doctor", does garner a certain degree (no pun inteneded) of immediate respect and recognition. I DO wonder what my life would be like had a become a doctor. I don't think it would be THAT markedly different though.
I would love to become a PA but I wonder what I should do as my undergraduate. Should I become a RN and gain experience then apply for a PA program? Because it takes 2 years to become an RN and I've heard you need 4 years in an Undergraduate. Also, will this choice affect if I get accepted into a program or not?
Hi there. RN is a very good major. However, you should do a BSN since the PA degree is a graduate degree. Please see the TH-cam channel of Kaynen Brown (ER Forum). He is a young ER Nurse who has applied to PA school after working for a couple of years.
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro Thank you
Hey I subscribed! I’m currently considering being a physician assistant one day. I’m getting a bachelors in zoology, and that’s kind of a possible back up plan if I can’t find a stable job as a wildlife biologist/ zoologist etc.but before applying to pa school ( for a masters) you need to have a experience in the healthcare industry right?
The Darkness Hi there! Thanks so much for watching and for your question. Yes, you have to direct-patient-contact-hours before you apply to PA school. The amount varies GREATLY by the school to which you apply. You can do a number of different health care jobs (e.g. CNA, phlebotomy, Patient Care Technician, etc.) which take a relatively short amount of time ( a few to several weeks) to complete. PLEASE...check with the school to which you are applying to see what they find acceptable. You know, I actually wanted to be a Zoologist and engage in field research as my career. My first degree is in Biology. I even got accepted to grad school. The thing is, that it pays such a SMALL amount (usually $40,000 to just under $60,000) even with a PhD and years of experience! This isn't bad if you're doing what you love and, are able to live VERY humbly. However, my Biologist friends have told me that it's very hard to make a living. You spend MUCH of your time writing grants and teaching to support yourself and are in constant fear of government or administrative budget cuts in your field (e.g. cuts in the Environmental Protection Agency, the Life Science Department at a university, etc.).
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C very interesting. Yes I have done a decent amount of online research on the job prospects of being a wildlife biologist/ vet/ zoologist. And while I still fully intend to pursue it one day ( more likely being a zoologist or wildlife biologist),fully even if I do become a pa, (perhaps after I have saved up a hefty amount to account to the job instability), I am very reluctant and feel if I try to rely on that alone it will lead to a very rocky start and a unhappy time haha. I also have worked mostly minimum wage jobs most of my life while going to school so I’m kind of sick of making very little money to be honest. I think the wide range of flexibility in pa is another reason I’m interested, not a job where your doing the same thing everyday.
I will always have the degree once I obtain it and I can get experience with animals here and there to keep the dream alive. But I only have 2 more semesters after this current semester to finish up.
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C Is there any easy entry level medical job you would recommend for the clinical hours requirements ? And also I know I have to shadow as well so perhaps I would be able to shadow you one day?
When I say easy, I mean as in relatively easy to get a job / if there is training it is minimal. Perhaps a phlebotomist? Knowing what you know about you’re craft, which medical job would be best for that? I could always volunteer for ems but I would like to be paid if possible
Hey, as a PA do you need countersignitures for all your prescriptions?
Nonhlanhla M No. We don't even need countersignatures for MOST forms anymore. However, we do need to have the name (printed or label) of our supervising MD/DO on the prescription pad. This is to show that we are in fact, working in conjunction with a licensed Physician.
Alhamdullilah.
If anything many patients prefer to see a pa because pa’s now have better bedside manners. I read a study that 55% of doctors are not satisfied with their job. I myself am conflicted between pa and md
Hi Ashley! Thanks so much for your comments. I find my job very satisfying. There HAVE been times when I looked at the salary difference between a Hospitalist PA (about $130K/yr) vs a Hospitalist MD (about $250K/yr) and think, ☹(Should I have gone to med school🤔). However, the MDs also OWE about $300K with interest.😟💸 I think you would find a video I did with Dr.Andre Pinesett the Study Doc, insightful. We had a great discussion about the differences between PA vs MD.
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C i will check it out. I am more focused on autonomy. Money matters but i can become a pa by 25 or md by 30. If i am smart with my money as a pa i can get almost the same amount of money an md gets by doing real estate on the side. I have 2 years to decide on pa or md. If i go the md route I would like be a med-ped
What is the most disturbing thing you’ve experienced as a PA?
Chan Nghiem A patient who had HUNDREDS of maggots in her wound and vagina!😨I had to keep very good composure when I saw them crawling out of her privates! The patient would not let nurses change her dressing on a wound she had in her inguinal fold. She was alert and oriented x 3 so they had to respect her autonomy. I had to actually implore her to allow ME to check her when she began complaining of discomfort in "That area"😳 She was chagrined of course, but finally agreed to a thorough cleaning of the area.
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Thank you! I really appreciate that! My first job was working in a stadium🏟 selling roasted peanuts🥜, at football games🏈! My feet were so sore from walking up-and-down the stadium steps😣! However, I was so happy to have made $35.00 during one!😅 That was almost 35 years ago. The Lord has brought me very far! I am VERY grateful!🙏🏾❤☝🏾️
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro so happy for u god bless u and ur family ❤️
Do PA s carry Mal Insurance as MDs do ? . Sounds prudent . What are the rates? Thank you ,
oldtimedrumcorps Yes. It's about $ 5,000 for a coverage of up to 1 million dollars. It covers malpractice. I'm considered a primary medical practitioner so my rates are less than say, a surgical or Ob/Gyn PA.
Asalamu Alaykum Omar this video was years ago, but hopefully you are still answering questions. I just wanted to ask as a Muslim how did you pay for PA school. Unfortunately I got a loan for my Bachelors of Nursing, before I knew it was haram. Now I would like to go to school to become a Nurse Practitioner it’s a Doctorate degree, but I concerned about the cost. It’s so much more then I can afford, but I really don’t want to get a loan. Please advise thank you. Salam
WalaikumasSalam! I hope this helps. There are ways to pay for your education! May AllahSubanahwa'ta'Allah grant you success!😊th-cam.com/video/OjvSYvZ2cfI/w-d-xo.html
Please see my video about the Uniform Health Services Corps.
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I hope this video helps, insha'Allah.
Please consider the Uniform Health Services Corps
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro Masha Allah thank you so much brother Omar. May Allah SWA grant you the highest level in Jannah. And give you and your family happiness and health in this life, and the next. Allahuma Ameen
@@dee27206 AsSalama'laikum! JazakhAllahKhair for the dua! I'm REALLY worried though because I my wife and I have so MUCH student loans! 😔 I'm haunted by the threat of Hell fire!😣🔥🌋 These riba-based loans have destroyed our U.S economy! They're from the Shaitan.😈💰👨🏾🎓👨🏾⚕️😭💔🏚 I'll do what I can to help you avoid them, insha'Allah. Our kids are living with us and attending community college. I told them they can stay with me and my wife as long as they need before getting established in their careers and own homes. I REALLY hope and pray that things work out for the BEST for you, insha'Allah!👋🏾👨🏾⚕️
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@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro thank you again so much, and always remember Allah is the most merciful. Your intention is pure, and we all make mistakes. Just continuously make istigfhar. I also pray for you and your family. ❤️🙏🏾
Have you experienced anything you’d consider supernatural?, say you meet a patient diagnosed with metal problems, able to speak in tongue, levitate.?
Chan Nghiem No.
Is there a hands on training course to become a PA
Elizabeth Crawford Hi there! Some colleges have pre PA programs. However, the standard now, is to earn a four year undergraduate degree, take the GRE s , get your direct-patient-contact-hours, and apply to PA school.
Nice video. I subscribed.
Emerson's Coffee Bike and Rum Shop Thanks! I just subscribed to your channel; very interesting life yoh have! I like the way you challenge yourself!
Thanks. My little n=1 experiments seem to yield the most results haha
Emerson's Coffee Bike and Rum Shop Hah I like that "n=1" you're your own research subject; sample size of 1.😉
I want to be a pa but It’s to expensive and I considered student loans but I’m a Muslim and student loans have interest which is haram in Islam 😞 any advice ?
Yes, try getting a scholarship through the Uniform Health Services Corps. If you take loans out, pay it back by working in the underserved areas (urban clinic, rural clinic, prison, Indian reservation).
If you take loans, you just pay them back before they start putting interest on them. I think they give you 6 months or something!! It can be done!
May Allah SWT bless you and keep you close to Him inshaAllah 🤲❤️☪️🕋
AMEEN!🤲🏽❤️☝🏽And YOU, as well! May Allah SubanahWaTa'Allah accept our dua, repentance, syam and, salah, during these last few days of Ramadan! 😌🤲🏽❤️☝🏽
have u ever had a patient that said to you " i want to see a doctor instead"
Yes, but it has only happened a few times in the 20 years that I have been a PA. It's not nesseccarily a bad thing.
MashaAllah !
Hoda M AsSalama'laikum!
Hello I’m having trouble to figure out if pa is for me what would be a great way to find out
Talk to as many PAs as you can.
Should I get health experience because originally I wanted be orthodontist but my mom been suffering health issues and i was like I wouldn’t mind helping others in a medical matter.
@@draiajackson6963 Try doing something that doesn't take that long like medical assistant, phlebotomy or patient care technician. I did some videos about these professions. They take 8 to 24 weeks to complete. You will be part of the healthcare team and get a sense of where you would like to be in that team.
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro Ok because I just want stability
Can you transition from a pharmacist to pa. Cuz honestly pharmacy is a dying field and I'm researching pa schools.
Yes you can! Is pharmacy REALLY dying!?😰 I've been hearing this lately. What's going on?😕
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro decline is reimbursement from affordable care act. Emerging pharmacy technician role. Kinda like how primary care doctors might die out with the emergence of nurse practitioner and mid level providers. Cuz insurance can bill 80 cents on the dollar for doctors.
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro the fact that legally major chains can buy out pbms and insurance companies so they control reimbursement and price and we have the worst advocacy association ever. Like its dying and I'm trying to withdrawal out my program to go into pa
Sir, will I get jobs in the gulf??
Yes, insha'Allah! I have friends who have worked in Kuwait and Saudi.
Pls, is their any way I can contact you I am not in instagram
Well, would you please just state your question. Maybe someone else has the same question.😊
Question? How would you describe the P.A. profession to a highschool classroom?
eliqrrt Almost the same as medical school but half the time.
would pa schools look down on someone with a bachelors in nursing?
insert creative name here No, I don't believe so. What they really want, are students who show consistent, academic achievement and emotional maturity , sufficient enough to make it through PA school. I had PA students who were nurses. Further, I got my start in the nursing field 28 years ago when I became a CNA. I did that whilst attending UDC 's now-defunct 2 year RN program.
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C thank you!