I’ve been a PA for thirty years. I began as an Army combat medic. After graduating from the military PA program in San Antonio, Texas , I worked in Family Medicine and Internal medicine. After twenty two years, I retired and went into Dermatology, Which I did for twenty two years. When I retired, I was millionaire. Not to bad for not being a “MD”.
I am so glad I came across this video. I just graduated PA school. I passed the PANCE. I am a PA. But I still cannot get out of my head that I originally wanted to be a doctor. I took the MCAT twice. I did so terribly that I never applied. I was devastated. I found out what a PA was and thought, “This is actually what I need to do.” I kept having this feeling like I gave up on my true dream of being a doctor. I felt defeated because for me it is not as simple at going to school because Pa school almost killed me. I barely made it. I barely passed the PANCE. I love to work and I love to learn but school is excruciating with all the testing and my crippling test taking anxiety. I felt like I was trapped and like I was unable to follow my dream. But your words helped me realize that I need to enjoy my time now and just be happy with my husband and family and travel. I never got to be truly happy and I really feel like this is my chance to be happy. Thank you.
@@agialushaj9029 PA school is about 27 months or 2.5 years. I just looked over the curriculum of one of the schools in my state of Florida and it was 27 months. So, basically 7 semesters.
Don’t be so hard on yourself. For a long time I hated to hear when people tell me “things happens for a reason.” Many times what are dreams are not always what is best for us or personally. I’ve been a paramedic since Jan 1994. I’m about to retire in a year. I still love medicine! So, I’ll looking at the PA or CRNA route. Nonetheless, over these past 28 years or specifically the first 15 years that I was more involved with riding the rescue, teaching and speaking to doctors I can tell you then as recently as 2 years ago that many doctors recommended becoming a PA or NP. The title can be over rated. Yes. They make more money. But if you into medicine primarily for money, you won’t last. Congratulations on being a PA! Having scored low or high does not determine who will be a great or bad PA. Just like paramedics, it’s your attitude especially in interacting with patients that will. Wishing you the very best in all your future endeavors and all the success in the PA profession!!
My primary healthcare provider is a PA and it was the greatest referral from my holistic dentist! I had high levels of mercury in my system and the MD never took the time to run the appropriate labs, just kept prescribing drugs that lead to major side effects and no positive results. After continued care from my PA, my health took a turn for the better! Ha! I only want to see the PA for sure!!! You have a choice….
Just got done reading the comments & all I gotta say health care is a team effort. There is no I in team & there are good and bad providers no matter what title. Just pick something y’all enjoy at the end of the day. :)
Literally an absolute legend bro. This video is very reassuring. Definitely changed my mine and taught me a lot. I feel pressured to become a doctor by my family for the title of "doctor," the pay, and the prestige. I want to be in the medical field, but I just wonder if all that training is completely worth it. I have been interested in becoming a PA and thank you for sharing all this experience. I hope I can decide soon, just before I have to apply to either an MD program or PA program...
Incredibly thankful for this video. I am currently between staying in clinical research and becoming a pa. I’m 24 but I feel like I’m a race with myself to get the “best” career as fast as possible. I’m going to keep reminding myself that I’m in control and that I can change my career whenever I choose to do so.
I wish I can be 24 again! You have plenty of time. I became a PA at 26 and worked as a clinical PA for 10 years and then at 35, I started a new career as a content creator/ entrepreneur. And it’s so fun and all part of my career journey! I’ll probably have another 4 career before I die!
I am learning this lesson as of right now and unfortunately am still feelings like I'm incredibly behind. I have my undergrad in business management and got my MBA last year at 23. At 24 I finally had the guts to follow my dream of being a healthcare provider and being a PA makes the most sense to me. i feel like I'm so far behind with no prerequisites done science wise. Hoping one day I give myself some grace.
Thank you for this video! It’s a huge fear of mine to get burnt out and not enjoy my work in ten years. Your video made me feel like I had more options. I’m sorry for all the trolls in the comments that don’t understand the role of a PA. Lucky for us their opinions won’t impact our work and it will just lead to PAs not wanting to work with them
I disagree that PA and MD/DO do the same work. MD/DO have more knowledge and training and can do more. Overall though, PA is definitely a better all around lifestyle package with the shorter schooling, less debt, and less liability.
I don’t think that was what she meant. The perception to the average outsider looking in usually thinks there is no difference, because they don’t know any better. Also, education doesn’t teach respect for people or teach empathy, compassion or common sense. I’m only a nurse…a practical nurse at that. But I’ve seen how some physicians practice unethically with that boatload of schooling they received.
You can't possibly know the work of every PA on the planet. It's possible for a PA to exist in a workplace that does the work of a physician and the physician takes the credit. I know RNs who actually do the same work as a doctor, but are not given the credit they deserve. RNs are paid very well and are more respected than a regular nurse because of their higher schooling though. Heck, doctors even take the credit of MLS workers too.
Disregarding ethics and different territories. On average, the doctor has to go through more schooling and has a larger breadth of knowledge, training and career advancement capabilities. Even if the PAs or RNs seem to pull more weight, at baseline, the MD is more highly qualified regardless of ethics.
I was very grateful to be a PA and working with all the medical professionals. Physicians have us beat in the pathophysiology of diseases, period, however PAs are like the eternal resident! We learn a lot and can be very helpful to our patients. Very rewarding profession.
Just stumbled across this video trying to find answers to the big "PA or MD" question, and my god was this SO helpful. Thank you Sami for your honesty! You're a rockstar.
Not sure if you have a video on this topic yet, but I’d be interested in hearing more about your experience in PA school. I’m currently in my first year and I don’t hear many people talk about their experience during didactic year and clinical rotations, only their life after graduating.
Most of my content is post grad bc there are too many PA students who are talking about current PA school life. And that was 12 years old ago for me 😆 I’m so old!
Thank you so much. I have so much anxiety about the future, losing myself in my career, losing my spirit, my "something else", diversity in my life and my identity and what I do with my time. I simply do not want to go the MD route. I don't even know if I want to be a PA. I was pre-pa, then went to art school. Now I'm thinking PA again, and this was what I needed to hear. Thank you for your honesty, and I am so happy for you.
Figure out what you’re good at and what you actually like. And do that. It’s that simple. Don’t overthink it. Forget status, prestige, or job security. The easiest and funnest job is the job you love. Make work as fun as play. Good luck 👍
You can’t dispute someone’s feeling. If I tell you I’m sad, you can’t respond with “false, you are not sad” 🤣 in my experience, working in urgent care and primary care, there is no difference in who sees what patients. Both PAs and MDs have the same patient load and same level of acuity. We both experience burnout and work fatigue. Allow me to share my feelings on my channel without criticism. Please start your own channel and share yours.
@@samingoshow It's the way you talked shit about a whole profession on a public platform and then expect to NOT get criticized for it...? Miss maam, that's not how it works.
Anybody who has worked in the medical profession knows that a lot of the work does overlap, and many APP’s will end up having the same (or greater) workloads as physicians despite not having the same education background/ training. The medical field has become extremely commercialized. Many of these companies/ independent practices (owned by physicians) prefer to hire APP’s and give them the same (or more) amount of work because, at the end of the day, it’s better for their wallet. That then leads to many of them not having that “work-life balance” they were looking forward to, and burning out. It’s a sad reality. This of course depends on the specialty, but I’ve seen it a lot in primary care clinics, urgent care centers, and in the ER.
PAs and NPs graduate with roughly 1500-3000 clinical hours. Medical students graduate with 20,000-23,000 clinical hours. Im sorry, i get theres ego involved here, but you are not the same as a doctor! (6:30) saying things like that is what causes problems. You are a mid level. You do NOT do the same work as a doctor, or shouldnt be. There is a serious qualification difference, no matter what you say. This is misinformation.
I needed this video more than I realized. I have been torn between PA and MSW for months now. I've always wanted to work in Psychiatry but wanted to do more than therapy and maintenance. As a 34 year old father of two working full time, the commitment to PA school has been extremely intimidating, and I know an MSW program would be much easier. Regardless of how conflicted I am, though, I know what it is I really want to do, and this video just helped solidify that. Thank you.
Currently an LPN or RPN as people in Ontario call it… We do two years of training, lots of clinical practise ect…. I want a change I want to do more! I was thinking RN then NP but now I’m thinking PA! Ugh why are there so many choices lol… great video, great honesty thank you!
Im currently in the same boat as you. An RPN in Ontario, Canada. Did you happen to go back to potentially pursue this? Im not sure if you had an undergrad already, but I’m wanting to do this but because I don’t have an undergraduate degree I have to go back. Im working out what I would go into now; but it made me wish I did my RPN to RN so that I could be doing PA applications asap
😂the downside will be explaining to people what a PA is. and your family asking, " why didn't you just become a doctor?" the upside is less debt, and less responsibility. 🤣 (me when something goes wrong : Idk, I'm not a doctor, go ask the doctor)
I’ve been a hairstylist for the past 7 years, have been going to business school the last 2 years, and recently made the decision to change my undergrad and then pursue PA school. I love doing hair! But it’s time for me to leave that career behind for the next journey. I learned SO much about myself, my life, professionalism, etc. what a beautiful gift that I’ve gotten from my first career and those skills and experiences will help me so much as a PA. Sometimes, you just have to say fuck it and follow your dreams lol
Getting into medical school does not mean you could have been a doctor. That's like step 1 of 4000. That's like saying I could have been an Olympic skater because I bought roller blades but chose not to.
It’s a pretty big step. Most people don’t drop out of medical school. They can fail but there are support systems to help you get through once you get in. I know someone who failed and had to retake her step 2 but they didn’t kick her out, they gave her a year to study.
I just came across the video and it made me feel so comfortable in my decision to become a pre-PA students after wanting to pursue nursing. I’m still in college, and I have a LONG road ahead of me, but this video was the best thing I have come across on TH-cam in quite some time, sincerely. In fact, I’m on vacation right now crying in the bathroom because of the sheer joy I got from watching this video. Thank you so much, and you have earned yourself a new subscriber.
Thank you! You’re so sweet! Trust me when I say this- your prePA journey may seem long but that’s the best part! it’s always all about the journey. It’s never about the destination. Enjoy the ride!
I live by your #1 rule about not being locked in to one career for the rest of your life. I was a firefighter-paramedic for 5 years, I’m currently a nurse coming up on my 5th year, and I think it’s time to advance this career into a medical provider. I think your video was ok but the expressions and hand movements were over the top and honestly distracting.
Nice Video, I can't be a PA because hearing a Patient say, "4 years is better than 2, go get the Dr". And with being a Black Man they will really ask for a Dr even though I already know a lot already. It will come down to the last minute but I have to have Dr. In front of my name even if I become a Optometrist or Chemist to name a few.
Some statements seem contradictory. You start off with "I wanted to practice medicine without residency" and "you do not have to commit to ONE career in your life" yet continue with "PA's get paid less to do the exact same work." By your own words it isn't the same work. You also seem to undervalue the fact that MD's are the experts in their respective fields. By definition a PA can't be the expert, and that is what sets us apart.
Here’s an idea: let’s normalize realizing that life is not a zero- sum game in which there must be a winner or a loser, and in order for me to win, you must lose. You can win all day, my friend. I have the highest respect appreciation for all my MD colleagues. Thank you for your feedback.
@@samingoshow You insinuate that with what you said. Those years of residency and fellowship you weren't capable of doing, is what makes an MD/DO the better provider. They will have 3 times more differentials for a common complaint than a PA bc of your rushed education.
@@hombreuno1 also more differentials aren't necessarily a good thing, like I could throw out a 100 different ones for knee pain but that doesn't mean they are any good
Believing you have the same level of input or a better provider than a MD is dangerous talk. That’s some self-aggrandizing talk because I know they don’t teach you to think that way in PA school
I am sure you are an excellent PA but its not being honest with yourself to say thaf you do the same job as a fully qualified doctor.. thats juat jot true. You dont have the same education or knowledge and people would hqve more respect for PA's that can admit that. There are excellent nurses. Many nurses who far more than young doctors but that does not make them equal to doctors. By the way I love your video, part from these issue's I have mentioned.
Current Biology major, minoring in Pre-PA. Not sure if I will end up ultimately going this route, but I think it's an amazing career that has so many opportunities. Now...I just need to figure out how to get the 1000 hours I need to be able to apply to PA school haha
Honestly, please don't take this the wrong way. I am a patient and I prefer MD's. You may not have done a residency or fellowship, but your knowledge is superficial compared to MD's. You don't know what you don't know and "a little knowledge is very dangerous".All PA's can do autonomously is primary care because its "general enough" .
@@samingoshow After that logic, everyone wants to do sit ups but nobody wants the muscles. Sounds ridiculous right? Truly intelligent people know what they don’t know..
@@felice98 Its the sunk cost fallacy, my friend! Most people don’t know they don’t want to be doctors until they become doctors. Truly intelligent people would walk away upon this realization, but unfortunately, most of them are drowning in $300k student loan debt so that’s not a viable option 😭
@@samingoshow I would not project my own situation on "most people". Just because you could not become a doctor does not mean that other people can not be happy and be a doctor... I just have the feeling that you have a deep deep envy for physicians who clearly have a higher education and broader expertise than you, make more money and are simultaneously happy while you could not do that...
I've been a PA for 25 years. I was an older student. I had been an RN for 10 years so I knew what I was getting into. I have no regrets, but if you are young.......go to medical school. Don't waste your time with PA school
@@samingoshow no! Thank you for being you, the world needs your voice! I've been really struggling with the decision, especially the work life balance aspect. You are bringing me closer to clarity! Thank you again💗
I love it when my physician disrespect other healthcare professionals, said no patients ever. Listen to yourself. Read what you just wrote. If you’re not shouting words of encouragement and love to your fellow colleagues then you don’t deserve to call yourself a leader in medicine. Be a leader in medicine. Show love and respect- in real life and online. Be a shining example of what a true leader should look like. If you don’t like what someone says on the internet, you don’t have to listen or agree with them. But you took an oath to “do no harm”. So do that just. Harmful comments online hurt. You’re better than that. I trust you don’t make rude comments to your patients or colleagues in real life so don’t do it online. I’m wishing you all the best and hoping you a lifetime of happiness. Don’t be angry at PAs. We love our MDs.
@@samingoshow So you think you could pass an MD board exam with your PA training? I am sorry but saying that you are an equal provider and then responding to criticism towards that statement with "Harmful comments online hurt" is a bit over-sensitive...
It’s obvious that certain people clicked on your video hoping that you would regret choosing PA and not MD and where a bit angry that you had no regrets at all. Not sure what they expected. 95% of PAs are satisfied with their career. They chose PA school because they wanted to be a PA. This should come to no surprise to anyone other than egotistical doctors who think the world revolves around them and are deluded into believing that everyone wants to be like them. It’s a self-centered view. Anyway, I loved the video. You earned a subscriber. :)
Haha youre probably right. I think most people wanted to be to say I regret not going to medical school. My biggest regrets in life is neither: eating too much food or not ordering enough food. Hahaha. This is life! And thanks for the support
Thank you so much for this videos. Recently I have been majorly doubting applying to PA school next year due to all my doubts that you addressed in this video. You are phenomenal
I have a bachelors in science for criminology. I'm 38 years of age. I'm a prior United States Border Patrol Agent, Prior State Trooper, Prior DEA, and for some ODD REASON I'm interested in pursuing PA. At 38 years of age, Is it worth the journey and debt?
Wow! 26 years that is impressive!! Good for you! I’m currently taking a gap year and living in Thailand as part of my “something else” and it’s great 👍 you should try it 😆
Wowww. That’s incredible! Good for you! It’s so important to always be excited about life and be open to change. I did take off a bit of time to raise my son -so now I’m getting back into being a PA. By the way I have not one regret about taking the time off to raise my little human! Enjoy Thailand and I’m going to follow your journey. Your energy is infectious and keeps me smiling!❤
I receive my health care through the VA and my first primary provider was a PA, I liked her better than any Dr. I've had. PA's care and caring goes a long way.
Since NP’s have independent practice for primary care after a few thousand hours working under physician supervision. I believe PA’s should be granted the same autonomy once they complete the equivocal number of hours in primary care. But the Nursing lobby and physicians fights against PA autonomy. The truth is mid level practice is already here with the NP’s and its going to stay. The fact that both lobbies are trying to prevent PA’s from having autonomy is for pure greed. Because NP’s dont want competition and physicians dont want to lose their cash cows (PA’s). They open multiple clinics and stock them with mid levels doing the medical work for them, while they rake in the cash and sign off on charts. Its greed and nothing else. But again, money makes the world go round so what can one expect.
Thank you for sharing your experience and honest opinion! I’ve been an OT for 10 years and no longer enjoy it like I used to. I’m considering applying to PA school after getting through my PhD in two years. I keep going back and forth in my head about why and if it would be worth going back to school for PA. I would like to be a PA but still work in research. What would your advice be? Thank you so much!
I would suggest doing a life audit. Figure out the person you want to be in 10-20 years. Then reverse engineer your goals. If your ultimate goal is to be a provider, work 9-5 job, and treat patients- then do the PA route. If you want to be a multimillionaire and have true flexibility in your work life, then there’s def a different path to pursue. Don’t worry as much about the schooling and cost. Focus more about your end goal and desire. I exited the PA profession recently bc I wanted to more work flexibility since I have two kids. Now I live in Australia and I can’t practice medicine here 😂 so it’s something to consider.
This is the boldest and realest thing I ve heard about chosen to be a PA. Thank you so much 😊 You made it so easy 😢 Even after 2 years someone like me get the opportunity to watch this ❤
Correction: nobody wants to be a doctor. I’m completely content with my life decision to be a PA for 9 years. Debt paid off. Quit my job. Moved to Thailand to live on beach with my family. No full time job. Loving this gap year life. Wouldn’t change it for the world. The best decision i have ever made in life was turn down medical school for PA school! 🙌
Correction: it’s very clear you want to be a doctor and think you function as one. This is one of the biggest problems medicine is facing right now. Commercialization of medicine leading to increased roles of midlevels due to them being cheaper than doctors. Highly doubt you turned down medicine, but go off.
@@abillionballoons2665 and what are you exactly? What gives you the room to place so much judgement on a career that takes years of dedication and 3-7 years of extremely high stress low pay work that many people don’t have the ability to go through. What people do with their life is their choice
@@abillionballoons2665 I would disagree. I don’t think that you can find any data supporting the notion that PAs wanting to be doctors is one of the biggest problems in healthcare. In fact, one could easily argue the counterpoint that PAs are improving healthcare by increasing access to care and reducing the cost of that care. Hospitals simply can’t afford to staff enough doctors to meet the demand. By utilizing mid-level providers, who are supervised by an attending physician, they can. Frankly, your position comes off as arrogant and uninformed. I’ve spoken with countless MDs and I’ve never heard them speak a bad word about PAs. In fact, most speak very highly of them. I’ll also add that someone’s choice to be a PA is unique to them and may be dependent on several factors. You shouldn’t automatically assume they became a PA because they couldn’t get into medical school.
You don't get to pass on medical school because of how long and rigorous the training is, and then turn around and say your are a better provider and get your ego hurt when patients ask for a real doctor.
This is GREAT NEWS, I am currently a Sophmore in college and was originally a pre-med student. I have two little children and I realized that becoming an MD would require me to sacrifice my time with them. I started looking into nursing but they don’t have the autonomy that I would like to have. I somehow came across a video discussing PA’s duties. I am now fully committed to becoming a PA and I’m interested in going into the Obgyn field or Radiology field. Thank you for this video it really put things into perspective for me. ALSO, I want to go to Mongolia as well! My husband is from there and he raves about how beautiful it is there. So we’ll be visiting there in the future to see his parents! Have a wonderful day!! ❤️
My friend went with me to my country and my parents asked him what did he do for a living? He is a PA but after trying to explain to my parents his job they said “So you’re a doctor” and he just accepted it. 😅
So since you want that equal pay you got to start off with resident pay. Let's cut your salary in half or into thirds for 3 to 7 years. And increase your hours and workload during that time. Then we can talk about equal pay. But then you don't have equal education qualifications. So still kind of hard to justify paying you the same as a physician.
Nobody asked for equal pay. Nobody is disputing the fact that our education and different is vastly different. Nobody is saying PAs can replace MDs. I fully understand you’re not upset with me. You have some internal conflict you’re battling and I’m sorry if you feel offended by my profession. But honestly, we are both on the same team. I wish you the best in life and all the happiness. Sending you virtual hugs, my friend. Thank you for watching my video and for supporting this channel 😘
@@samingoshow I mean, I kinda do at times. I'm a 3rd year FM resident making half of what the surgical PAs make at my hospital and they can't even be bothered to come drop lines when we need them to or even admit surgical patients to the hospital. They are often primary for these patients yet I find myself getting paged by nurses in the middle of the night because they're unreachable. And then when they show up after I've done them the COURTESY of ordering labs because I didn't even know if they would come they don't give me the time of day. Same with the ED PAs, shitty pre admit work up and often don't even sign their patients out. Frankly they know they have my hospital by the balls because it's too cheap to pay for doctors and the residents are basically indentured servants. There are also a few wonderful PAs at my hospital but my general experience has left me pretty bitter...
@@kotetsu131 thank you for sharing your experience. I’m sorry to hear about your poor experiences with PAs. But having lazy Or uncooperative coworkers are not limited to PAs. This can be said of doctors, nurses, MAs, surgical techs. Everyone has felt what you felt. That’s why there is such a huge burnout culture in America. We are all overworked and underpaid. We all feel the burden to do it all. And the truth is, people with years of experience in medicine have learned to put their personal lives ahead of their professional life. Because corporate America has taught us if you work hard, you’ll be rewarded with more work. It’s awfully depressing. I’m sorry you’re going through this. Sending you hugs.
@@samingoshow I think my point was that I generally *don't* experience these things when working with physicians, frankly they're all much more engaged with the exception of a few surgeons (idk maybe's it's just surgeons). Basically I'm saying that I don't particularly like getting paid half as much....after having been in school for at *minimum* twice as long....to be used like slaves whenever the PAs feel something is beneath them. They literally created a central line program at my residency to make the FM residents do these lines on top of all our other responsibilities because the surgical PAs said they would leave if they had to do them. It's not primarily a burnout problem, It's a culture problem. From over here it seems like you guys have a decent gig for the amount you have to put in to get there.
@@kotetsu131 but look at it from our perspective. After being a practicing PA for 10-20 years, who trains residents and new grad physicians, we will never get equal or higher pay than a new grad physician. This is what we signed up. It’s the nature of the profession. There’s both pros and cons to every argument.
I really enjoy these videos your life was exactly was I thought about when I was spending a week off just thinking about my future. It is insane how similar this sounds to me
@@samingoshow currently at UCLA and thought to myself do I really want to commit to being an MD? I always had the idea if living life and enjoying it as early as possible and I did not see myself doing it as a medical student. Props and major respect to all MDs out there but for me I had such a drive to work and experience the PA life asap and I knew what the pay was but I know that I would want to make investments those being refinancing properties that would be in tangent to investing in my future. Amazing video!
I am you 10 years later. I am 65% now on PA , but my dream was always to do medicine. But I'm poor and medicine is expensive and I need to make a life for myself sooner.
Thank you for the video. ❤️ I am International medical graduate in 2009 and did my residency in Internal Medicine in my country finish in 2013. I moved to the United States in 2016 . Currently I am a citizen. I am 37 years old. I haven't worked since this year. I am mom staying at home. Firstable trying to learn English that is not proficient yet. I take step 1 October 2021 and I fail and I will retaken January 2023, and fail again.!!! I am so frustrated and sad. I have too much red flag. I am looking to study for P.A because l like too much is pretty similar to medicine . Sincerely I am not sure yet. But I definitely want to be in the health field. Please I need advice. !!!Thank you so much in advance !!!!!
Thank you for sharing your journey! ❤️ I wish you the best of luck. Sounds like you’re on a great mission and you have solidified your purpose! Just keep going!
I see healthcare as collaborative. PA, NP, RN, MD, DO, EMT, MA, etc are all fundamental professions. I respect all of them regardless of the amount of training. Honestly, I don’t understand why there are people in the comments bashing on PA’s when their job is designed to contribute to patient care satisfaction. PA’s know they are not fully autonomous. Granted, their job is attached to working under a physician. They cannot work without one. However, this does not minimize the work of a PA. They can lessen the burden off the physician by seeing typical patients while the physician can see more complex cases. Of course, this depends on the speciality, but I think this physician-PA relationship allows an effective practice of medicine as more people are treated and seen. Their training is shorter, yet focused on clinical care. They can treat a lot of cases and their duties can expand based on the physician’s discretion. They do not have in-depth knowledge as a physician, but they are still competent providers who can prescribe and treat pt. This video sheds light that this individual is happy with her life and work as a PA. It seems she is happy with the work/life balance and her decision a decade later. Medicine is a lifelong education, it seems anyone in the field’s knowledge is ALWAYS expanding. I have seen many NP’s and PA’s in lieu of a physician. They were both competent despite their “less rigorous and amount of training.” This is purely anecdotal but it seems that in many cases, a physician does not have to be present. Again, I respect all medical professions for what they have done, but it seems that PA’s have a lot of backlash.
NP's and PA's are definitely competent for the majority of the bread and butter cases. But the expertise of MD/DO's are a lot more apparent in unusual cases or presentations. This is why for the sake of patient safety, its good to have a supervising physician when an NP/PA sees an unusual case and for them to rely on their supervising physician's expertise. The clinical experience gap between an new attending physician and new PA/NP is huge.
@@samingoshow How you started and what did you do to get your license if needed. I am thinking of going into healthcare field but also have my real estate business on the side :)
Hi, new subscriber and fellow PA here. I'm a "geezer"👨🏾🦳😅(PA for >20 years). I REALLY like your energy and passion for the PA profession. It's worked well for me and my family. I wish you the best! 👩🏻⚕️👋🏽👨🏾⚕️
Hi Omar you are someone I would love to talk to! I specifically wonder that is this career sustainable for men in the long run. What I mean is as you age are you still able to enjoy the career or regret that younger doctors may treat you some way. Even though you are more experienced?
I regret becoming a doctor!!! Sacrificed my life for nothing! Never got a residency and worth anything without a medical liscense working in healthcare not getting paid more than $25 an hr. I got in 650k debt, have no kids, n lost my youth!! I wish I became a PA trust me, ur life is worth it!!! Stay clear from medicine unless you have straight A's
20 years old?! You’re such a baby! 🤣 Congrats!! Dont worry, you have another 80 years to figure out all the different professions you want to explore!!
I left when she said pa’s are better at medicine. lol that’s like saying I’ll be a better athlete If I train less and work less. Stupidity at its finest.
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I’ve been a PA for thirty years. I began as an Army combat medic. After graduating from the military PA program in San Antonio, Texas , I worked in Family Medicine and Internal medicine. After twenty two years, I retired and went into Dermatology, Which I did for twenty two years. When I retired, I was millionaire. Not to bad for not being a “MD”.
I am so glad I came across this video. I just graduated PA school. I passed the PANCE. I am a PA. But I still cannot get out of my head that I originally wanted to be a doctor. I took the MCAT twice. I did so terribly that I never applied. I was devastated. I found out what a PA was and thought, “This is actually what I need to do.” I kept having this feeling like I gave up on my true dream of being a doctor. I felt defeated because for me it is not as simple at going to school because Pa school almost killed me. I barely made it. I barely passed the PANCE. I love to work and I love to learn but school is excruciating with all the testing and my crippling test taking anxiety. I felt like I was trapped and like I was unable to follow my dream. But your words helped me realize that I need to enjoy my time now and just be happy with my husband and family and travel. I never got to be truly happy and I really feel like this is my chance to be happy. Thank you.
Hello caj you tell my how long takes studing pa?
@@agialushaj9029 PA school is about 27 months or 2.5 years. I just looked over the curriculum of one of the schools in my state of Florida and it was 27 months. So, basically 7 semesters.
Don’t be so hard on yourself. For a long time I hated to hear when people tell me “things happens for a reason.” Many times what are dreams are not always what is best for us or personally.
I’ve been a paramedic since Jan 1994. I’m about to retire in a year. I still love medicine! So, I’ll looking at the PA or CRNA route. Nonetheless, over these past 28 years or specifically the first 15 years that I was more involved with riding the rescue, teaching and speaking to doctors I can tell you then as recently as 2 years ago that many doctors recommended becoming a PA or NP. The title can be over rated. Yes. They make more money. But if you into medicine primarily for money, you won’t last.
Congratulations on being a PA!
Having scored low or high does not determine who will be a great or bad PA. Just like paramedics, it’s your attitude especially in interacting with patients that will.
Wishing you the very best in all your future endeavors and all the success in the PA profession!!
When you apply for the PA did you submit your MCAT score.
@@laminjawo5586 absolutely not. They didn’t even ask.
You literally are such a beakon of light for this world. Thank you for your devout honesty. I can't wait till I get to be a PA!
Ohhh thank you so much!! I’m excited for your PA journey
My primary healthcare provider is a PA and it was the greatest referral from my holistic dentist! I had high levels of mercury in my system and the MD never took the time to run the appropriate labs, just kept prescribing drugs that lead to major side effects and no positive results. After continued care from my PA, my health took a turn for the better! Ha! I only want to see the PA for sure!!! You have a choice….
🙌🙌🙌 so glad to hear that!! ❤️
Just got done reading the comments & all I gotta say health care is a team effort. There is no I in team & there are good and bad providers no matter what title. Just pick something y’all enjoy at the end of the day. :)
Say it louder for those in the back!!! PREACH!!
Literally an absolute legend bro. This video is very reassuring. Definitely changed my mine and taught me a lot. I feel pressured to become a doctor by my family for the title of "doctor," the pay, and the prestige. I want to be in the medical field, but I just wonder if all that training is completely worth it. I have been interested in becoming a PA and thank you for sharing all this experience. I hope I can decide soon, just before I have to apply to either an MD program or PA program...
Become an MD to have full autonomy over your patients if you get the opportunity
I'm currently 26, working as a marketing professional, and considering being a PA. This video is exactly what I needed to see, thank you!
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful!
Incredibly thankful for this video. I am currently between staying in clinical research and becoming a pa. I’m 24 but I feel like I’m a race with myself to get the “best” career as fast as possible. I’m going to keep reminding myself that I’m in control and that I can change my career whenever I choose to do so.
I wish I can be 24 again! You have plenty of time. I became a PA at 26 and worked as a clinical PA for 10 years and then at 35, I started a new career as a content creator/ entrepreneur. And it’s so fun and all part of my career journey! I’ll probably have another 4 career before I die!
I am learning this lesson as of right now and unfortunately am still feelings like I'm incredibly behind. I have my undergrad in business management and got my MBA last year at 23. At 24 I finally had the guts to follow my dream of being a healthcare provider and being a PA makes the most sense to me. i feel like I'm so far behind with no prerequisites done science wise. Hoping one day I give myself some grace.
@@samingoshowthoughts on mid-level providers replacing Physicians?
Thank you for this video! It’s a huge fear of mine to get burnt out and not enjoy my work in ten years. Your video made me feel like I had more options. I’m sorry for all the trolls in the comments that don’t understand the role of a PA. Lucky for us their opinions won’t impact our work and it will just lead to PAs not wanting to work with them
I disagree that PA and MD/DO do the same work. MD/DO have more knowledge and training and can do more. Overall though, PA is definitely a better all around lifestyle package with the shorter schooling, less debt, and less liability.
I don’t think that was what she meant. The perception to the average outsider looking in usually thinks there is no difference, because they don’t know any better. Also, education doesn’t teach respect for people or teach empathy, compassion or common sense. I’m only a nurse…a practical nurse at that. But I’ve seen how some physicians practice unethically with that boatload of schooling they received.
You can't possibly know the work of every PA on the planet. It's possible for a PA to exist in a workplace that does the work of a physician and the physician takes the credit. I know RNs who actually do the same work as a doctor, but are not given the credit they deserve. RNs are paid very well and are more respected than a regular nurse because of their higher schooling though.
Heck, doctors even take the credit of MLS workers too.
@@emilyau8023 what is the difference between a “regular nurse” and an “RN” to you? Nursing education/jobs come in levels… LPN, RN, Nurse Practitioner.
Disregarding ethics and different territories. On average, the doctor has to go through more schooling and has a larger breadth of knowledge, training and career advancement capabilities. Even if the PAs or RNs seem to pull more weight, at baseline, the MD is more highly qualified regardless of ethics.
@@emilyau8023Really? So a PA has the same education and training as an MD? PAs are great and fill a role, but a PA is not an MD.
I was very grateful to be a PA and working with all the medical professionals. Physicians have us beat in the pathophysiology of diseases, period, however PAs are like the eternal resident! We learn a lot and can be very helpful to our patients. Very rewarding profession.
Just stumbled across this video trying to find answers to the big "PA or MD" question, and my god was this SO helpful. Thank you Sami for your honesty! You're a rockstar.
Not sure if you have a video on this topic yet, but I’d be interested in hearing more about your experience in PA school. I’m currently in my first year and I don’t hear many people talk about their experience during didactic year and clinical rotations, only their life after graduating.
Most of my content is post grad bc there are too many PA students who are talking about current PA school life. And that was 12 years old ago for me 😆 I’m so old!
Thank you so much. I have so much anxiety about the future, losing myself in my career, losing my spirit, my "something else", diversity in my life and my identity and what I do with my time. I simply do not want to go the MD route. I don't even know if I want to be a PA. I was pre-pa, then went to art school. Now I'm thinking PA again, and this was what I needed to hear. Thank you for your honesty, and I am so happy for you.
Figure out what you’re good at and what you actually like. And do that. It’s that simple. Don’t overthink it. Forget status, prestige, or job security. The easiest and funnest job is the job you love. Make work as fun as play. Good luck 👍
Same work as a physician - false.
Same burnout as a physician - false.
Same work life balance as a physician - false.
You can’t dispute someone’s feeling. If I tell you I’m sad, you can’t respond with “false, you are not sad” 🤣 in my experience, working in urgent care and primary care, there is no difference in who sees what patients. Both PAs and MDs have the same patient load and same level of acuity. We both experience burnout and work fatigue. Allow me to share my feelings on my channel without criticism. Please start your own channel and share yours.
@@samingoshow can't dispute a 2 year education compared to a 4 year education + residency. 🙃
@@samingoshow "in my experience" = ancedotal
@@samingoshow It's the way you talked shit about a whole profession on a public platform and then expect to NOT get criticized for it...? Miss maam, that's not how it works.
Anybody who has worked in the medical profession knows that a lot of the work does overlap, and many APP’s will end up having the same (or greater) workloads as physicians despite not having the same education background/ training. The medical field has become extremely commercialized. Many of these companies/ independent practices (owned by physicians) prefer to hire APP’s and give them the same (or more) amount of work because, at the end of the day, it’s better for their wallet. That then leads to many of them not having that “work-life balance” they were looking forward to, and burning out. It’s a sad reality. This of course depends on the specialty, but I’ve seen it a lot in primary care clinics, urgent care centers, and in the ER.
PAs and NPs graduate with roughly 1500-3000 clinical hours. Medical students graduate with 20,000-23,000 clinical hours. Im sorry, i get theres ego involved here, but you are not the same as a doctor! (6:30) saying things like that is what causes problems. You are a mid level. You do NOT do the same work as a doctor, or shouldnt be. There is a serious qualification difference, no matter what you say. This is misinformation.
I needed this video more than I realized. I have been torn between PA and MSW for months now. I've always wanted to work in Psychiatry but wanted to do more than therapy and maintenance. As a 34 year old father of two working full time, the commitment to PA school has been extremely intimidating, and I know an MSW program would be much easier. Regardless of how conflicted I am, though, I know what it is I really want to do, and this video just helped solidify that. Thank you.
Whatever path you choose will be the right path for you 🙏 Good luck!
Currently an LPN or RPN as people in Ontario call it… We do two years of training, lots of clinical practise ect…. I want a change I want to do more! I was thinking RN then NP but now I’m thinking PA! Ugh why are there so many choices lol… great video, great honesty thank you!
Im currently in the same boat as you. An RPN in Ontario, Canada. Did you happen to go back to potentially pursue this? Im not sure if you had an undergrad already, but I’m wanting to do this but because I don’t have an undergraduate degree I have to go back. Im working out what I would go into now; but it made me wish I did my RPN to RN so that I could be doing PA applications asap
It's always important for other PAs to hear about what their career could be like. Thank you for sharing!
Absolutely! You're welcome and thanks for watching!
😂the downside will be explaining to people what a PA is. and your family asking, " why didn't you just become a doctor?" the upside is less debt, and less responsibility. 🤣 (me when something goes wrong : Idk, I'm not a doctor, go ask the doctor)
I’ve been a hairstylist for the past 7 years, have been going to business school the last 2 years, and recently made the decision to change my undergrad and then pursue PA school. I love doing hair! But it’s time for me to leave that career behind for the next journey. I learned SO much about myself, my life, professionalism, etc. what a beautiful gift that I’ve gotten from my first career and those skills and experiences will help me so much as a PA. Sometimes, you just have to say fuck it and follow your dreams lol
Always just follow your dreams! 🙏
How old are you im on the same boat as you but as Im getting older i worry that I Dont have time waste!
@@Mo-nd8lp I’m 24. It’s never too late, do it 🤷🏻♀️
Wow I am a hairstylist too and I have been wanting to do something different like becoming a PA! That’s so awesome.
One of the best PA videos I have come across! I love your charisma, humor, insightful wisdom and words of encouragement ❤️! Thank you!
Wow, thank you!
Getting into medical school does not mean you could have been a doctor. That's like step 1 of 4000. That's like saying I could have been an Olympic skater because I bought roller blades but chose not to.
It’s a pretty big step. Most people don’t drop out of medical school. They can fail but there are support systems to help you get through once you get in. I know someone who failed and had to retake her step 2 but they didn’t kick her out, they gave her a year to study.
I just came across the video and it made me feel so comfortable in my decision to become a pre-PA students after wanting to pursue nursing. I’m still in college, and I have a LONG road ahead of me, but this video was the best thing I have come across on TH-cam in quite some time, sincerely. In fact, I’m on vacation right now crying in the bathroom because of the sheer joy I got from watching this video. Thank you so much, and you have earned yourself a new subscriber.
Thank you! You’re so sweet! Trust me when I say this- your prePA journey may seem long but that’s the best part! it’s always all about the journey. It’s never about the destination. Enjoy the ride!
Wow I just let a deep sigh for you. Keep going. I believe in you. ❤️
Sameee
I love hearing you talk about this with so much emotion, thank you for this :)
Thank YOU for tuning in!
I live by your #1 rule about not being locked in to one career for the rest of your life. I was a firefighter-paramedic for 5 years, I’m currently a nurse coming up on my 5th year, and I think it’s time to advance this career into a medical provider. I think your video was ok but the expressions and hand movements were over the top and honestly distracting.
This video has seriously impacted me, I appreciate you 🙂
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Plenty of driven PAs still decide to go to medical school to become physicians, instead of just wondering about it…
Nice Video, I can't be a PA because hearing a Patient say, "4 years is better than 2, go get the Dr". And with being a Black Man they will really ask for a Dr even though I already know a lot already. It will come down to the last minute but I have to have Dr. In front of my name even if I become a Optometrist or Chemist to name a few.
What a horror this person!
Some statements seem contradictory. You start off with "I wanted to practice medicine without residency" and "you do not have to commit to ONE career in your life" yet continue with "PA's get paid less to do the exact same work." By your own words it isn't the same work. You also seem to undervalue the fact that MD's are the experts in their respective fields. By definition a PA can't be the expert, and that is what sets us apart.
Here’s an idea: let’s normalize realizing that life is not a zero- sum game in which there must be a winner or a loser, and in order for me to win, you must lose. You can win all day, my friend. I have the highest respect appreciation for all my MD colleagues. Thank you for your feedback.
That's a really bold statement to say you're more competent than a physician
Never said I was more competent than a physician. But I did say PAs can be better providers than physicians.
@@samingoshow you did say you are equally competent and then followed it up can be better provider which is why I got the implication from
@@samingoshow You insinuate that with what you said. Those years of residency and fellowship you weren't capable of doing, is what makes an MD/DO the better provider. They will have 3 times more differentials for a common complaint than a PA bc of your rushed education.
@@hombreuno1 that's isn't true
@@hombreuno1 also more differentials aren't necessarily a good thing, like I could throw out a 100 different ones for knee pain but that doesn't mean they are any good
I'm a PA for 22 years love it
Believing you have the same level of input or a better provider than a MD is dangerous talk. That’s some self-aggrandizing talk because I know they don’t teach you to think that way in PA school
I am sure you are an excellent PA but its not being honest with yourself to say thaf you do the same job as a fully qualified doctor.. thats juat jot true. You dont have the same education or knowledge and people would hqve more respect for PA's that can admit that. There are excellent nurses. Many nurses who far more than young doctors but that does not make them equal to doctors. By the way I love your video, part from these issue's I have mentioned.
The medical career always have and always will have sooo many paths. The only limit is your imagination and motivation.
And here comes all the salty MD trolls who act like they’re better than everyone in medicine
🤣🤣🤣 can’t we all just get along? All I want is world peace ✌️
Girl you seem like a PA who is bitter for not being a proper doctor…
Current Biology major, minoring in Pre-PA. Not sure if I will end up ultimately going this route, but I think it's an amazing career that has so many opportunities. Now...I just need to figure out how to get the 1000 hours I need to be able to apply to PA school haha
Honestly, please don't take this the wrong way. I am a patient and I prefer MD's. You may not have done a residency or fellowship, but your knowledge is superficial compared to MD's. You don't know what you don't know and "a little knowledge is very dangerous".All PA's can do autonomously is primary care because its "general enough" .
This speaks to me so deeply. Thank you for posting this. Truly.
Everyone wants to be a doctor but nobody wants to go to medical school…
The inverse is true. Nobody wants to be a doctor but everyone wants to go to medical school.
@@samingoshow After that logic, everyone wants to do sit ups but nobody wants the muscles. Sounds ridiculous right?
Truly intelligent people know what they don’t know..
@@felice98 Its the sunk cost fallacy, my friend! Most people don’t know they don’t want to be doctors until they become doctors. Truly intelligent people would walk away upon this realization, but unfortunately, most of them are drowning in $300k student loan debt so that’s not a viable option 😭
@@samingoshow I would not project my own situation on "most people". Just because you could not become a doctor does not mean that other people can not be happy and be a doctor... I just have the feeling that you have a deep deep envy for physicians who clearly have a higher education and broader expertise than you, make more money and are simultaneously happy while you could not do that...
@@felice98 Money isn't everything.
I've been a PA for 25 years. I was an older student. I had been an RN for 10 years so I knew what I was getting into. I have no regrets, but if you are young.......go to medical school. Don't waste your time with PA school
This was so honest and comforting, thank you for this!
Yayyy!! I’m so glad you enjoyed it. I thought it was going to be so boring. 😂😂😂😂
@@samingoshow no! Thank you for being you, the world needs your voice! I've been really struggling with the decision, especially the work life balance aspect. You are bringing me closer to clarity! Thank you again💗
If you are equivalent to an MD, you should have no issue passing our licensing exams. Good luck :)
I love it when my physician disrespect other healthcare professionals, said no patients ever. Listen to yourself. Read what you just wrote. If you’re not shouting words of encouragement and love to your fellow colleagues then you don’t deserve to call yourself a leader in medicine. Be a leader in medicine. Show love and respect- in real life and online. Be a shining example of what a true leader should look like. If you don’t like what someone says on the internet, you don’t have to listen or agree with them. But you took an oath to “do no harm”. So do that just. Harmful comments online hurt. You’re better than that. I trust you don’t make rude comments to your patients or colleagues in real life so don’t do it online. I’m wishing you all the best and hoping you a lifetime of happiness. Don’t be angry at PAs. We love our MDs.
@@samingoshow So you think you could pass an MD board exam with your PA training?
I am sorry but saying that you are an equal provider and then responding to criticism towards that statement with "Harmful comments online hurt" is a bit over-sensitive...
@@samingoshowbruh you think PAs and MDs are equally competetent😮
I am so glad I came across your video!!! It helped me a lot:) Thank you I needed to hear everything you said!
A PA should NOT have 'FULL AUTONOMY' 😮 😠 😡
That is very wise and helpful advice. Thank you.
It’s obvious that certain people clicked on your video hoping that you would regret choosing PA and not MD and where a bit angry that you had no regrets at all.
Not sure what they expected. 95% of PAs are satisfied with their career. They chose PA school because they wanted to be a PA. This should come to no surprise to anyone other than egotistical doctors who think the world revolves around them and are deluded into believing that everyone wants to be like them. It’s a self-centered view.
Anyway, I loved the video. You earned a subscriber. :)
Haha youre probably right. I think most people wanted to be to say I regret not going to medical school. My biggest regrets in life is neither: eating too much food or not ordering enough food. Hahaha. This is life! And thanks for the support
Thank you so much for this videos. Recently I have been majorly doubting applying to PA school next year due to all my doubts that you addressed in this video. You are phenomenal
❤️❤️❤️ good luck!! It’s a great profession, but it shouldn’t be your only profession 😊
I have a bachelors in science for criminology. I'm 38 years of age. I'm a prior United States Border Patrol Agent, Prior State Trooper, Prior DEA, and for some ODD REASON I'm interested in pursuing PA. At 38 years of age, Is it worth the journey and debt?
It depend on where you practice, but you do need supervising Physician in some states.
she Ngos what up with this profession
Thanks for this. I’ve been a pa for 26 years. And I needed to be reminded
1 that a pA profession is great
2 that I can do other things as well
Thanks.
Wow! 26 years that is impressive!! Good for you! I’m currently taking a gap year and living in Thailand as part of my “something else” and it’s great 👍 you should try it 😆
Wowww. That’s incredible! Good for you! It’s so important to always be excited about life and be open to change. I did take off a bit of time to raise my son -so now I’m getting back into being a PA.
By the way I have not one regret about taking the time off to raise my little human!
Enjoy Thailand and I’m going to follow your journey. Your energy is infectious and keeps me smiling!❤
I receive my health care through the VA and my first primary provider was a PA, I liked her better than any Dr. I've had. PA's care and caring goes a long way.
Awwwh I love hearing this!! 😍 So glad you had a great experience with a PA!
I didn’t know I needed to hear/see this.. until I did. Really helped me ease my anxiety and stress about life in general. Thank you!
what 2 year associate degree job would you recommend that could transfer over to PA credits if i were to go back and get a bachelors?
That’s why I’m choosing PA over MD.
I’m glad you made the best choice for yourself! ❤️❤️❤️
Since NP’s have independent practice for primary care after a few thousand hours working under physician supervision. I believe PA’s should be granted the same autonomy once they complete the equivocal number of hours in primary care.
But the Nursing lobby and physicians fights against PA autonomy. The truth is mid level practice is already here with the NP’s and its going to stay. The fact that both lobbies are trying to prevent PA’s from having autonomy is for pure greed. Because NP’s dont want competition and physicians dont want to lose their cash cows (PA’s). They open multiple clinics and stock them with mid levels doing the medical work for them, while they rake in the cash and sign off on charts. Its greed and nothing else. But again, money makes the world go round so what can one expect.
Your amazing thank you so much for this video
I graduate pa school in about 3 months and I’m so excited to start my career!!!
Thank you for sharing your experience and honest opinion! I’ve been an OT for 10 years and no longer enjoy it like I used to. I’m considering applying to PA school after getting through my PhD in two years. I keep going back and forth in my head about why and if it would be worth going back to school for PA. I would like to be a PA but still work in research. What would your advice be? Thank you so much!
I would suggest doing a life audit. Figure out the person you want to be in 10-20 years. Then reverse engineer your goals. If your ultimate goal is to be a provider, work 9-5 job, and treat patients- then do the PA route. If you want to be a multimillionaire and have true flexibility in your work life, then there’s def a different path to pursue. Don’t worry as much about the schooling and cost. Focus more about your end goal and desire. I exited the PA profession recently bc I wanted to more work flexibility since I have two kids. Now I live in Australia and I can’t practice medicine here 😂 so it’s something to consider.
They don’t let you practice in Australia? Interesting. You definitely can practice in the UK with a PA degree from the US
This was so helpful! Thank you very much :)
❤️ thank you for watching!!
Thank you for the advice it really helped clear my head
You’re welcome!
I needed to hear this. Thank you so much!!
Thank you 😊
This was beautiful. Thank you! ❤
This is the boldest and realest thing I ve heard about chosen to be a PA. Thank you so much 😊
You made it so easy 😢
Even after 2 years someone like me get the opportunity to watch this ❤
not me as a nurse wanting to go to PA school just cuz im bored
Haha probably not the best reason to go PA school!
Needed this! 28 juggling pa vs md
You won’t make the wrong decision. 😆 Choose whatever makes you happy! And your age shouldn’t affect your decision at all
This video was very helpful to me. Thank you
Yayyy! I’m so happy to hear that! 😊
Thank you, I really needed to hear this!❤
AWESOME
Everyone wants to be a doctor without putting in the actual work to be a doctor. So typical.
Correction: nobody wants to be a doctor. I’m completely content with my life decision to be a PA for 9 years. Debt paid off. Quit my job. Moved to Thailand to live on beach with my family. No full time job. Loving this gap year life. Wouldn’t change it for the world. The best decision i have ever made in life was turn down medical school for PA school! 🙌
Correction: it’s very clear you want to be a doctor and think you function as one. This is one of the biggest problems medicine is facing right now. Commercialization of medicine leading to increased roles of midlevels due to them being cheaper than doctors. Highly doubt you turned down medicine, but go off.
@@abillionballoons2665 and what are you exactly? What gives you the room to place so much judgement on a career that takes years of dedication and 3-7 years of extremely high stress low pay work that many people don’t have the ability to go through. What people do with their life is their choice
@@abillionballoons2665 I would disagree. I don’t think that you can find any data supporting the notion that PAs wanting to be doctors is one of the biggest problems in healthcare. In fact, one could easily argue the counterpoint that PAs are improving healthcare by increasing access to care and reducing the cost of that care. Hospitals simply can’t afford to staff enough doctors to meet the demand. By utilizing mid-level providers, who are supervised by an attending physician, they can.
Frankly, your position comes off as arrogant and uninformed. I’ve spoken with countless MDs and I’ve never heard them speak a bad word about PAs. In fact, most speak very highly of them. I’ll also add that someone’s choice to be a PA is unique to them and may be dependent on several factors. You shouldn’t automatically assume they became a PA because they couldn’t get into medical school.
@@abillionballoons2665which PA broke your heart ?😭😭😭
New subscriber here! Thanks for the advice.
Welcome to the channel! So glad you enjoyed the video! 😂
Damn!! “You have no money” how embarrassing 4:09
You don't get to pass on medical school because of how long and rigorous the training is, and then turn around and say your are a better provider and get your ego hurt when patients ask for a real doctor.
Why
Exactly😂
Rude, but very valid point
THANK YOU IS ALL I CAN SAY. May God bless you!!
Awwh thank you so much! ❤️
Thank you for this video
❤️❤️❤️ glad you found it valuable
Wow, I love your energy!
Thank you ❤️❤️
This is GREAT NEWS, I am currently a Sophmore in college and was originally a pre-med student. I have two little children and I realized that becoming an MD would require me to sacrifice my time with them. I started looking into nursing but they don’t have the autonomy that I would like to have. I somehow came across a video discussing PA’s duties. I am now fully committed to becoming a PA and I’m interested in going into the Obgyn field or Radiology field. Thank you for this video it really put things into perspective for me. ALSO, I want to go to Mongolia as well! My husband is from there and he raves about how beautiful it is there. So we’ll be visiting there in the future to see his parents! Have a wonderful day!! ❤️
Yayyy! So excited for you to finally figure it all out! And you must visit Mongolia! It truly is incredible! So deserted but so beautiful!
My friend went with me to my country and my parents asked him what did he do for a living? He is a PA but after trying to explain to my parents his job they said “So you’re a doctor” and he just accepted it. 😅
😂😂😂 it’s def hard to explain our profession!
Thank you Sami.. I needed to hear this.
You’re welcome friend! 😊
I’m from AZ and I don’t even know where to start?!!!!!! Do I need to find a PA program first or take the pre reqs and then transfer to a university?
Start with Google! There’s tons of sites with great articles to navigate the profession.
Find a PA program you want. Be strategic. Then find their pre-reqs and do well
So since you want that equal pay you got to start off with resident pay. Let's cut your salary in half or into thirds for 3 to 7 years. And increase your hours and workload during that time. Then we can talk about equal pay. But then you don't have equal education qualifications. So still kind of hard to justify paying you the same as a physician.
Nobody asked for equal pay. Nobody is disputing the fact that our education and different is vastly different. Nobody is saying PAs can replace MDs. I fully understand you’re not upset with me. You have some internal conflict you’re battling and I’m sorry if you feel offended by my profession. But honestly, we are both on the same team. I wish you the best in life and all the happiness. Sending you virtual hugs, my friend. Thank you for watching my video and for supporting this channel 😘
@@samingoshow I mean, I kinda do at times. I'm a 3rd year FM resident making half of what the surgical PAs make at my hospital and they can't even be bothered to come drop lines when we need them to or even admit surgical patients to the hospital. They are often primary for these patients yet I find myself getting paged by nurses in the middle of the night because they're unreachable. And then when they show up after I've done them the COURTESY of ordering labs because I didn't even know if they would come they don't give me the time of day. Same with the ED PAs, shitty pre admit work up and often don't even sign their patients out. Frankly they know they have my hospital by the balls because it's too cheap to pay for doctors and the residents are basically indentured servants. There are also a few wonderful PAs at my hospital but my general experience has left me pretty bitter...
@@kotetsu131 thank you for sharing your experience. I’m sorry to hear about your poor experiences with PAs. But having lazy Or uncooperative coworkers are not limited to PAs. This can be said of doctors, nurses, MAs, surgical techs. Everyone has felt what you felt. That’s why there is such a huge burnout culture in America. We are all overworked and underpaid. We all feel the burden to do it all. And the truth is, people with years of experience in medicine have learned to put their personal lives ahead of their professional life. Because corporate America has taught us if you work hard, you’ll be rewarded with more work. It’s awfully depressing. I’m sorry you’re going through this. Sending you hugs.
@@samingoshow I think my point was that I generally *don't* experience these things when working with physicians, frankly they're all much more engaged with the exception of a few surgeons (idk maybe's it's just surgeons). Basically I'm saying that I don't particularly like getting paid half as much....after having been in school for at *minimum* twice as long....to be used like slaves whenever the PAs feel something is beneath them. They literally created a central line program at my residency to make the FM residents do these lines on top of all our other responsibilities because the surgical PAs said they would leave if they had to do them. It's not primarily a burnout problem, It's a culture problem. From over here it seems like you guys have a decent gig for the amount you have to put in to get there.
@@kotetsu131 but look at it from our perspective. After being a practicing PA for 10-20 years, who trains residents and new grad physicians, we will never get equal or higher pay than a new grad physician. This is what we signed up. It’s the nature of the profession. There’s both pros and cons to every argument.
I really enjoy these videos your life was exactly was I thought about when I was spending a week off just thinking about my future. It is insane how similar this sounds to me
Thank you for listening ❤️
@@samingoshow currently at UCLA and thought to myself do I really want to commit to being an MD? I always had the idea if living life and enjoying it as early as possible and I did not see myself doing it as a medical student. Props and major respect to all MDs out there but for me I had such a drive to work and experience the PA life asap and I knew what the pay was but I know that I would want to make investments those being refinancing properties that would be in tangent to investing in my future. Amazing video!
I am you 10 years later. I am 65% now on PA , but my dream was always to do medicine. But I'm poor and medicine is expensive and I need to make a life for myself sooner.
You don't have to be rich in other to go to med school
thank you so much with this video
Thanks for this video ❤❤
Thank you for watching ❤️❤️❤️
Great points, you nailed it and called it for what it is, bottomline.
Thank you so much for listening ❤️
Thank you for the video. ❤️ I am International medical graduate in 2009 and did my residency in Internal Medicine in my country finish in 2013. I moved to the United States in 2016 . Currently I am a citizen. I am 37 years old. I haven't worked since this year. I am mom staying at home. Firstable trying to learn English that is not proficient yet. I take step 1 October 2021 and I fail and I will retaken January 2023, and fail again.!!! I am so frustrated and sad. I have too much red flag. I am looking to study for P.A because l like too much is pretty similar to medicine . Sincerely I am not sure yet. But I definitely want to be in the health field. Please I need advice. !!!Thank you so much in advance !!!!!
Thank you for sharing your journey! ❤️ I wish you the best of luck. Sounds like you’re on a great mission and you have solidified your purpose! Just keep going!
I see healthcare as collaborative. PA, NP, RN, MD, DO, EMT, MA, etc are all fundamental professions. I respect all of them regardless of the amount of training.
Honestly, I don’t understand why there are people in the comments bashing on PA’s when their job is designed to contribute to patient care satisfaction. PA’s know they are not fully autonomous. Granted, their job is attached to working under a physician. They cannot work without one. However, this does not minimize the work of a PA. They can lessen the burden off the physician by seeing typical patients while the physician can see more complex cases. Of course, this depends on the speciality, but I think this physician-PA relationship allows an effective practice of medicine as more people are treated and seen. Their training is shorter, yet focused on clinical care. They can treat a lot of cases and their duties can expand based on the physician’s discretion. They do not have in-depth knowledge as a physician, but they are still competent providers who can prescribe and treat pt.
This video sheds light that this individual is happy with her life and work as a PA. It seems she is happy with the work/life balance and her decision a decade later. Medicine is a lifelong education, it seems anyone in the field’s knowledge is ALWAYS expanding.
I have seen many NP’s and PA’s in lieu of a physician. They were both competent despite their “less rigorous and amount of training.” This is purely anecdotal but it seems that in many cases, a physician does not have to be present.
Again, I respect all medical professions for what they have done, but it seems that PA’s have a lot of backlash.
NP's and PA's are definitely competent for the majority of the bread and butter cases. But the expertise of MD/DO's are a lot more apparent in unusual cases or presentations. This is why for the sake of patient safety, its good to have a supervising physician when an NP/PA sees an unusual case and for them to rely on their supervising physician's expertise. The clinical experience gap between an new attending physician and new PA/NP is huge.
Well she said she was better than many physicians
hello! Great video, I am interested in your Real Estate business as well :) it would be great if you can do a video
Awwh thank you! What exactly do you want to know about our real estate properties?
@@samingoshow How you started and what did you do to get your license if needed. I am thinking of going into healthcare field but also have my real estate business on the side :)
Thank u .. love everything u said .. I really needed this ❤️
Thank you so much ❤️
Hi, new subscriber and fellow PA here. I'm a "geezer"👨🏾🦳😅(PA for >20 years). I REALLY like your energy and passion for the PA profession. It's worked well for me and my family. I wish you the best! 👩🏻⚕️👋🏽👨🏾⚕️
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Hi Omar you are someone I would love to talk to! I specifically wonder that is this career sustainable for men in the long run. What I mean is as you age are you still able to enjoy the career or regret that younger doctors may treat you some way. Even though you are more experienced?
I regret becoming a doctor!!! Sacrificed my life for nothing! Never got a residency and worth anything without a medical liscense working in healthcare not getting paid more than $25 an hr. I got in 650k debt, have no kids, n lost my youth!! I wish I became a PA trust me, ur life is worth it!!! Stay clear from medicine unless you have straight A's
This is really refreshing to hear as a 20 year old going into PA school next month!
20 years old?! You’re such a baby! 🤣 Congrats!! Dont worry, you have another 80 years to figure out all the different professions you want to explore!!
20 y/o 👽
I’m going to graduate college at 21 👽
@@SarangiNepali 22 now, and on clinicals!
@@benyeung7909how do you feel about your decision?
@@tarimo3241 graduating in 2 months and about to finish my last week of clinicals this week! Happy with my decision!
I left when she said pa’s are better at medicine. lol that’s like saying I’ll be a better athlete If I train less and work less. Stupidity at its finest.
I wanna be you. I feel totally identified
Awwh thank you! appreciate the support!!
This is such a positive beautiful video I love it
Thank you! I share a ton of my PA and money journey on here hoping it will provide you guys some insight into your journey!
Amazing advice! Thank you
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
this video gave me a better perspective of everything. thank you