So a recurring theme appears to be loss, specifically the loss of a mother or maternal figure. Max lost his mother and went on a journey to find her. Monica lost her father and swore vengeance against his killer. The Firbits lost Holly and missed her greatly. Lin lost her master Crest and got sick as a result. Shingala lost his parents but found a new parental figure in Pau. Gaspard lost his mother due to prejudice and became embittered because of it. Sirius lost his queen and went insane as a result. The plot shows the different ways grief can affect people, they can either become sad (Max and Firbits) block it out (Lin) get angry (Monica) or go insane (Gaspard and Sirius). But I think the ultimate moral is to move on from loss which is the only way any of these characters are able to fix what is wrong with their respective lives.
It’s weird how the girl came from the future and is using medieval weapons like swords, magic, and monster transformations while the guy is from the present and is using more futuristic weapons like guns, wrenches, and a big machine.
Could be the Flintstone effect. I the crossover between Jetsons and Flintstones, the Jetsons wanna go to the future for some reason, but end up in prehistoric Flintstone bedrock. The boy Elroy thought his time machine messed up and sent them to the past The theory however is that they actually did go to the future! The theory says that humanity had a big war that caused us to Borderline ruin the planet, causing us to go back to the cavemen days. Lol. Either that or they just thought Monica would look cooler with a sword.
@@DiddyKongVsLuigi And don't forget a castle that's essentially a Transformer, airships, Robots, mind control devices that are controlled via electric guitar, translation devices that let you talk to plesiosaurs.
Fun Fact: According to Jun Sonobe, Dark Cloud 2's character designer, Pau was originally supposed to join the main cast, and turn into Griffon at the very end, revealing him to have been Emperor Griffon's vessel all along. Max and Monica would've had to fight him, but the idea was shot down. Jun Sonobe personally considered it too sad a plot twist and was happy with the final outcome.
. I always thought, since I was a kid, that Pau and Sirus were the same person. It's only now while I'm watching it that I realize it's not. It's so weird that they wouldn't at least change one of the character designs to avoid that confusion.
That'd not the only thing that was cut from the game. At some point in the story, Cedric was actually going to build a Time Machine so he could go back in time to see his deceased Wife and Daughter again. The Wife and Daughter being Mina and Corrine.
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE GAMES. I STILL HAVE IT. AND I STILL HAVE THE PS2 CONSOLE. I MUST PLAY THIS AGAIN SOON. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE PART WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL CHANTING MUSIC PLAYS SO I COULD SHOW SOMEONE. ITS SO BEAUTIFUL. THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS.
I love Dark Cloud 2! Out of curiosity, what chanting music are you talking about? The music in the scene in the caves where Monica & Max discover the mural? Or the game's menu intro/trailer before starting the game? Or somewhere else?
@@Devil_Slayer I can agree with you there on Dark Cloud's spheda and the saving photos space for inventions. I know it's common in games but I wish Max could actually make his own buggy like you see him driving in the pre-start trailer; It's maddening that they put that in the trailer but it's not possible to get.
Hey thank you for this, I love this game it's very nostalgic for me. I think its definitely one of the most underrated PS2 games. It especially does not get enough credit for its story. For a game that initially looks like it's going to be a lighthearted adventure it gets depressing and dark pretty fast. It has a surprisingly high number of deaths. Even most of the side stories and the main story itself have bittersweet endings. I wish they'd make more games like this.
Tbh, I did not want to play this game. It was not enjoyable as the first. However, someone commented on my dark cloud 1 video that said, please play 2. that I said ehhh why not
This game takes me back to my childhood. I had this game but forgot the name of it. After searching the internet for hours and with help from my husband, I finally found it. Thanks for this
I don't think the Dark Element was entirely a manifestation of Griffin's negative emotions but a curse from the leftover remains of the Dark Genie's essence drawn to his negative emotions and giving it flesh.
@@Devil_SlayerSure, it ain't perfect. But it's better than saying "He's a manifestation of Griffin's inner darkness" and call it a day. This isn't Persona.
I was always so interested in the lore of this game, like the history of the murals, what happened to the world in Sirus’s time, what the world was like 10k years in the past, how the star of oblivion was created and when, who was Sirus’s family and Alexandra, who are the ancients and what do they know?? How the Atlamillia were created, who created them, why?
legit. i never got a chance to finish the game, since it had so many weapon paths to explore and upgrading orbs to collect.... cool stuff. EDIT: snap, it was all those pictures that did me ! game is just stuffed with mini games and side quests, great time killer.
Wow! This game is 20 years old this year! 😃 I used to own it for when I got it for Christmas when I was 12! 😃 Unfortunately I only ever made it to the sewer level, lost interest and flogged it! :/
1:34:00 good to see my copy of Dark Cloud 2 isn't the only one that does this dialogue glitch (for lack of a better description) in the scene with Dr. Dell. This is one of my favorite adventure games. I'd love to see it remastered/remade for a newer console for a new audience. I've never played Dark Cloud 1 though. Kind of blocking myself from playing it but I might be interested in a remake of that too.
I wonder if Max is somehow Toan. There has to be some repercussions for changing the past four hundred years prior. I always wondered if it caused him to stop existing.
Dark Cloud 2 is a spiritual successor to the 1st game. In. Other words same atmosphere and similar game mechanism but different storyline in no relations to the 1st whatsoever
It’s definitely the same universe again different points in time. Max’s world is far in the future from Toan’s. Given that all towns and cities are gone aside from Palm Brinks which has far greater technology than anything experienced in DC1. Also, The Great Butterfly Woods is proven to be the Wise Owl forest and the Zelmite mines is Divine Beast Cave. Add the fact the Dark Genie shows up, and Osmond.
@@mykelmellen2378 Bruh have you played the game? The Big Ape of The Forest is The Guardian of it and his name is Master Udon or something. Osmond is the Rabbit punk steam looking playable character with a helipack and goggles and is weapons are guns. What you made reply specifically to my comment with what I posted up has nothing to do with what you're saying? Lol
Dr Osmond was a playable in the 1st Dark Cloud it's funny how he was FAT but this one he is skinny same for the secret level/ Epilogue they have the Dark Genie from the 1st game but as a boss fight. This game is non linear to the 1st which it's a spiritual successor same elements, characters and gameplay but a completely different story.
I'm not too worried about the views. I only did this game because a fan of the first one wanted me to do the second one. Tbh, I hated this game. The first one had a way better story and gameplay.
The 1ST game is my favorite brings back much middle school memories. I bought this one on PS4 but don't really have the patience to play through it because I'm not familiar with the invention system lol 😂
Nice Game Movie Johnathon. I enjoyed it very much. P.S Tomorrow. Army Of The Dead will be on Netflix. I'll let you know if that movie is good when i watched it.
How Dark Chronicle should’ve ended! 😂 ; Superman is playing this game in the future, he uses his turn back the time magic and let’s the bairns know everything in advance what they have to do to speed things up! 😂
@@Devil_Slayer We don't even know his backstory or anything. He reformed a little too easily. Hell, why lick the guy who mind controlled you and your kind, plus mind controlled one of your kind's children?
So a recurring theme appears to be loss, specifically the loss of a mother or maternal figure.
Max lost his mother and went on a journey to find her.
Monica lost her father and swore vengeance against his killer.
The Firbits lost Holly and missed her greatly.
Lin lost her master Crest and got sick as a result.
Shingala lost his parents but found a new parental figure in Pau.
Gaspard lost his mother due to prejudice and became embittered because of it.
Sirius lost his queen and went insane as a result.
The plot shows the different ways grief can affect people, they can either become sad (Max and Firbits) block it out (Lin) get angry (Monica) or go insane (Gaspard and Sirius).
But I think the ultimate moral is to move on from loss which is the only way any of these characters are able to fix what is wrong with their respective lives.
This deserves a pin, I like this 🙂
It’s weird how the girl came from the future and is using medieval weapons like swords, magic, and monster transformations while the guy is from the present and is using more futuristic weapons like guns, wrenches, and a big machine.
Could be the Flintstone effect. I the crossover between Jetsons and Flintstones, the Jetsons wanna go to the future for some reason, but end up in prehistoric Flintstone bedrock. The boy Elroy thought his time machine messed up and sent them to the past
The theory however is that they actually did go to the future! The theory says that humanity had a big war that caused us to Borderline ruin the planet, causing us to go back to the cavemen days. Lol.
Either that or they just thought Monica would look cooler with a sword.
@@DiddyKongVsLuigi Or perhaps in her future, people use science, magic, sorcery and technology
@@kidprime6863 True. We do see that giant machine castle and luna tech.
@@DiddyKongVsLuigi And a time traveling train
@@DiddyKongVsLuigi And don't forget a castle that's essentially a Transformer, airships, Robots, mind control devices that are controlled via electric guitar, translation devices that let you talk to plesiosaurs.
Fun Fact: According to Jun Sonobe, Dark Cloud 2's character designer, Pau was originally supposed to join the main cast, and turn into Griffon at the very end, revealing him to have been Emperor Griffon's vessel all along. Max and Monica would've had to fight him, but the idea was shot down. Jun Sonobe personally considered it too sad a plot twist and was happy with the final outcome.
. I always thought, since I was a kid, that Pau and Sirus were the same person. It's only now while I'm watching it that I realize it's not. It's so weird that they wouldn't at least change one of the character designs to avoid that confusion.
That'd not the only thing that was cut from the game.
At some point in the story, Cedric was actually going to build a Time Machine so he could go back in time to see his deceased Wife and Daughter again.
The Wife and Daughter being Mina and Corrine.
@@mykelmellen2378Yeah, but they're basically the same species, Moon People. Which were established in the previous game.
@@ytwyvern4240I'm aware of that, too. Essentially a "Back To The Future" situation
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE GAMES. I STILL HAVE IT. AND I STILL HAVE THE PS2 CONSOLE. I MUST PLAY THIS AGAIN SOON. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE PART WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL CHANTING MUSIC PLAYS SO I COULD SHOW SOMEONE. ITS SO BEAUTIFUL. THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS.
Your welcomessss 😊 I actually prefer the first one to the second one 😂 Dark Cloud 2 gave me a headache 🤣
I love Dark Cloud 2! Out of curiosity, what chanting music are you talking about? The music in the scene in the caves where Monica & Max discover the mural? Or the game's menu intro/trailer before starting the game? Or somewhere else?
@@Devil_Slayer I can agree with you there on Dark Cloud's spheda and the saving photos space for inventions. I know it's common in games but I wish Max could actually make his own buggy like you see him driving in the pre-start trailer; It's maddening that they put that in the trailer but it's not possible to get.
definitely one of the most fun PS2 games or games I ever played. legendary and unforgettable. bravo level 5
Hey thank you for this, I love this game it's very nostalgic for me. I think its definitely one of the most underrated PS2 games. It especially does not get enough credit for its story. For a game that initially looks like it's going to be a lighthearted adventure it gets depressing and dark pretty fast. It has a surprisingly high number of deaths. Even most of the side stories and the main story itself have bittersweet endings. I wish they'd make more games like this.
Tbh, I did not want to play this game. It was not enjoyable as the first. However, someone commented on my dark cloud 1 video that said, please play 2. that I said ehhh why not
This game takes me back to my childhood. I had this game but forgot the name of it. After searching the internet for hours and with help from my husband, I finally found it. Thanks for this
Awww you're welcome Eboni ❤
YES DUDE FINALLY SOMEONE DID IT! I was going to do this myself when I had the equipment. Thank you so much
You're very much welcome 😊
I don't think the Dark Element was entirely a manifestation of Griffin's negative emotions but a curse from the leftover remains of the Dark Genie's essence drawn to his negative emotions and giving it flesh.
I actually like this theory, it gives it a connection to the original game
@@Devil_SlayerSure, it ain't perfect. But it's better than saying "He's a manifestation of Griffin's inner darkness" and call it a day. This isn't Persona.
Well dark genie is in the future from sirus time but the genie said his power goes beyond time and space
I was always so interested in the lore of this game, like the history of the murals, what happened to the world in Sirus’s time, what the world was like 10k years in the past, how the star of oblivion was created and when, who was Sirus’s family and Alexandra, who are the ancients and what do they know?? How the Atlamillia were created, who created them, why?
Too bad a Dark Cloud 3 was never released 😔
These are great questions. I still hope in the future we get a DC3 that could either answer these questions or something. It'd be awesome. =}
And I wonder if this franchise takes place on Earth, an alternate Earth or another planet
That's what Fanfics are for!
@@quinnfletcher3906 man, I hate to say it but . . . Cringe bro
I still loving playing this game now, I would love it if they would redo it in HD and add it to the Switch
It's Sony Exclusive, so no switch ever
@@Devil_Slayer I know, but it would be so cool.
legit.
i never got a chance to finish the game, since it had so many weapon paths to explore and upgrading orbs to collect....
cool stuff.
EDIT:
snap, it was all those pictures that did me ! game is just stuffed with mini games and side quests, great time killer.
Yeah I didn't bother to all those side quests stuff. The first game was better imo didn't really enjoy playing dark cloud 2
I just realized emperor Griffin voice actress is the Rugrats lmao 😂
Also Pau and Max's mother Elena
Kath Soucie
@@kidprime6863 lmao a lot of famous VA that we never knew on this game
@@kyleprice5253 His Emperor Griffin form on the other hand is voiced by Mark Hamill
@@kidprime6863 SURPRISE SURPRISE MAN I'm learning something new in the comments section 😆 🤣
Lol Maximillian is Robin from TEEN TITANS/ TEEN TITANS GO! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh shit! I knew his voice sounded familiar.
@@aaronkozelii8300 I remember reading his imdb.com like 6 years ago 😂
Yeah, that's Scott Menville
And Monica is Phoebe from Hey Arnold
@kidprime6863 I had no idea lol 😆
1:34:45 I always thought this scene was screwed up because my disc was scratched. Guess it’s a game glitch in the files.
Wow! This game is 20 years old this year! 😃 I used to own it for when I got it for Christmas when I was 12! 😃 Unfortunately I only ever made it to the sewer level, lost interest and flogged it! :/
Am i the only one that gets watery eyes towards the ending ending the theme song is played?
The only great thing about this game 😭
1:34:00 good to see my copy of Dark Cloud 2 isn't the only one that does this dialogue glitch (for lack of a better description) in the scene with Dr. Dell. This is one of my favorite adventure games. I'd love to see it remastered/remade for a newer console for a new audience. I've never played Dark Cloud 1 though. Kind of blocking myself from playing it but I might be interested in a remake of that too.
Glad you enjoyed the movie ^^
Why are you "blocking" yourself from playing the first one? It's fantastic.
I wonder if Max is somehow Toan. There has to be some repercussions for changing the past four hundred years prior. I always wondered if it caused him to stop existing.
Dark Cloud 2 is a spiritual successor to the 1st game. In. Other words same atmosphere and similar game mechanism but different storyline in no relations to the 1st whatsoever
It’s definitely the same universe again different points in time. Max’s world is far in the future from Toan’s. Given that all towns and cities are gone aside from Palm Brinks which has far greater technology than anything experienced in DC1. Also, The Great Butterfly Woods is proven to be the Wise Owl forest and the Zelmite mines is Divine Beast Cave. Add the fact the Dark Genie shows up, and Osmond.
@@kyleprice5253 bruh, Osmand? The big monkey mfer in the woods?
@@mykelmellen2378 Bruh have you played the game? The Big Ape of The Forest is The Guardian of it and his name is Master Udon or something. Osmond is the Rabbit punk steam looking playable character with a helipack and goggles and is weapons are guns. What you made reply specifically to my comment with what I posted up has nothing to do with what you're saying? Lol
@@kyleprice5253 I have played them both. Just weird wording "in no relations to the 1st whatsoever" when they share like three of the four characters.
Missing the post game cutscenes involving the Zelmite Mine.
Yeah but that's optional, not really part of the main story. But I see your point
Dr Osmond was a playable in the 1st Dark Cloud it's funny how he was FAT but this one he is skinny same for the secret level/ Epilogue they have the Dark Genie from the 1st game but as a boss fight. This game is non linear to the 1st which it's a spiritual successor same elements, characters and gameplay but a completely different story.
And he's voiced by Michael Bell in this game
@@kidprime6863 lol wow I never knew
@@kyleprice5253 He voiced Flotsam too
@@kidprime6863 optimum prime too
@@kyleprice5253 No the only Transformer he voiced was G1 Sideswipe
*Paznos falls toward Palm Brinks, endangering Max's father and friends*
Max: Cool! What is it?
Isn’t Max’s voice actor the same guy who does Robin from Teen Titans?
Yeppers :)
@@Devil_Slayer
*GASP*
WHHAAAATT!?
And Monica's VA also voiced Phoebe in Hey Arnold
@@kidprime6863Didn’t she also do Bulma from DragonBall?
Aw man 1k views I loved this game lol
Edit: gonna watch all ads for you
I'm not too worried about the views. I only did this game because a fan of the first one wanted me to do the second one. Tbh, I hated this game. The first one had a way better story and gameplay.
3:16:03 MARTY!!
If you don't get the reference shame on you.
Madagascar? 🤔
BACK TO THE FUTURE!
@@bluebunnyyyy Great Scott. Correct.
The 1ST game is my favorite brings back much middle school memories. I bought this one on PS4 but don't really have the patience to play through it because I'm not familiar with the invention system lol 😂
Dude, I didn't want to play this game at all, because I just find it boring. But a subscriber of mine wanted me to play this game, so I did
I wish it wasn’t so hard to find a copy of this game these days. Let alone a working console that doesn’t put you back several hundred dollars
You can get this game digitally. on the ps store. If i remember correctly, it's free for PS now users
40:05 WHATS THAT lololol
beat this a long time ago but cannot even remember the cutscenes, i only remember the fishing game and a big tree
Haha you're welcome!
Fantastic adventure! 🧙♂This is just like White Knight Chronicles and Summon Night! Awesome! 🐉
I heard the white Knight chronicles is good, might have to check it out sometime. Never heard of summon night
I played Summon Night 6! It's incredibly fun! 🎮🐲
@@DragonRage61 Will check it out 🙂
Nice Game Movie Johnathon. I enjoyed it very much. P.S Tomorrow. Army Of The Dead will be on Netflix. I'll let you know if that movie is good when i watched it.
Colossus mode would have probably helped from the get go 😂
To be fair, it hadn't been tested yet
Monica is always really nice but she scolds him once in a while.
Memories
How Dark Chronicle should’ve ended! 😂 ;
Superman is playing this game in the future, he uses his turn back the time magic and let’s the bairns know everything in advance what they have to do to speed things up! 😂
Lmao
Aw, he forgot to do the 8th chapters cutscenes...
Yeah, but isn't that really optional?
Well, it's a part of the story...
@@yba_xoxo Trueeeeeeeee
@@Devil_Slayer Plus Monica and Max reunite and Floatsom returns
i love this game
Am I the only one thinking that Dr. Jamming's redemption was kinda forced?
You're not the only one
@@Devil_Slayer We don't even know his backstory or anything. He reformed a little too easily. Hell, why lick the guy who mind controlled you and your kind, plus mind controlled one of your kind's children?
Flotsam is the best
Your video seems to have a slight problem with loading up🤔
It's working on my end. Try refreshing maybe
Man I like this game a lot but ch 7 was just so annoying. ridiculously long and all the enemies 2 shot you.
I didn't like the game as a whole. The first one was WAY better. Although, I do like that the second one had voice acting