Breaking 30+ year old sod with a 300$ plow! Will the 4430 handle it?
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- Groundbreaking success! Literally…..we broke ground on our Farming for Forage pasture reclamation project! John Deere 4430 pulls 1350 John Deere moldboard plow over 30 acres of tired pasture!
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If you got that plow for $300 you got a heck of a deal. I enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching!
I used to work for a farmer and we owed around 700 acres with a 4-16 semi mounted ih plow. I was taught to never raise the tail wheel when turning. Just raise the 3-point. It goes in the ground more even when you enter your furrow.
Nice I Love the Smell of Frish plowed Ground
You guys had the big toys. We farmed with an 8n Ford and a 2 bottom 16” plow. Plowing took forever in ten acre field but was still so enjoyable. We later updated to a 135 Massey Ferguson diesel and thought we were big time. Farming with my dad leaves me so many good memories. Farming is the best life.
That is awesome!
One of my dad's farm stories is that they were working with horse teams and a single tractor when his dad saw a farm demonstration of the 1939 Ford 9N. Grandad bought six of them to use on the farm. They were working 900 acres and had three sons and two hired hands (that became son-in-laws). My brother still has one of those tractors.
I have spent my entire life on an almost complete no till farm. But I do remember in the fall if 1988 riding with my father in his 4440 plowing with an IH 720 5 bottom. He custom farmed a neighbors place for one year while the neighbor was selling out and retiring. I’ll never forget that, just like your boy will never forget this his entire life.
I’m the lucky one he just doesn’t know it
Its wonderful beeing a farmer we are the most lucky guys
I think so too!
Great looking land, good luck on the reclaiming
Really enjoyed that. Takes me back to when my Pops and I plowed but with 3 horses😊😊
That is awesome! Thanks for watching!
Dad had a new IH 1256 and a new IH 560 six bottom, 16” plow in 1969z. Never will forget plowing with that rig. That 1256 had a lot of snort and handled that plow really well, even in the toughest ground.
I watched for hours ,our neighbor plowed the 1/2 mile field in front of our house with a nearly new 620 tractor and a plow like that. He was a great guy with great equipment. Thanks for the memories!
Thanks for watching!
A quick tip is when you’re first plowing along and you’re getting your hitch set up, about the 2nd round and you’re plowing as good as you can, with the ow in the ground just stop. Get out and measure from your furrow wall to your shin in your first plowshare. We always set ours up about a half inch shorter than your bottom’s width. 16” wound equal about 15 to 15.5”. You can, if not careful have your #1 share plowing 17, 18 or even 19”!
I’ve never seen that particular model of JD plow, but I can tell you 4430 is one of the best tractors JD ever built. I have one with umbrella top and clamp on duals that I use from time to time on my channel
My dad had one just like it. F1350/F1450. F1350 was shear bolt and F1450 was trip bottom.
@@whjertsI have a 4 bottom like it. But mine is a slat bottom plow. Works nice on the 4020
IFor 4 yrs in a row I helped my uncle farm 550 acres .We powed 350 acres with 2 4020 s with mounted 5 - 16 jd plows. Many days operating those tractors from 4 pm till 11 pm ,no cabs ,out in the open. 3 n 4 gear on those 4020 s. Life-long great memories.
You doing a very good job I got a JD 1350 love it
Thank you!
Doing a good job turning sod over, looks like good deep topsoil. You're son may remember this this the rest of his life??😉😃
Brings back memories
I use to plow at home a tobacco fields for my neighbor, can't forget that spell of fresh turned sod ,ooh boy you never forget
Great memories I’m sure!
Great job on everything. I have the exact same set up. Really enjoyed the video. I’m for sure a subscriber
Awesome! Thank you!
Your doing a really good job with that plow ! I've only had 1 bottom trip on me in the last 40 years, But my shear bolt didnt brake it broke the bolts that hold the bottom to the frame ! It broke 3 out of 4 3/4" bolts and turned into a heck of a job getting it back in place. To be 30+ year old sod that sure broke up really good, It sure wouldnt brake up like that hear in SW Ohio ! Bandit
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That plow was really doing a nice job of turning that sod over. Couldn't even see any peeks of sod through the plowed ground. Nicely done. 6 Years ago I plowed up 15 acres of old pasture here on our farm. My mother has been here on the farm since 1952 and told me that those fields had never been plowed as long as she's been here, so at the time, that was at least 65 years. I thought it would be tough plowing, but it all plowed up pretty nice and produced some really nice corn.
Well I’m definitely an amateur at it, so I’m happy it’s a good as it is! Honestly I wasn’t sure if my old tractor would pull it deep enough.
Nice tractor and plow always like the 30 and 40 series deer tough tractor’s
You got that right!
nice plow, thank you for the video
Glad you like it!
It looks like your having great fun there and think you would love the reversible swing over ploughing we have in the UK
Maybe one day!
I'm not a farmer, but I do a lot of gardening, years ago, I friend whose not a farmer either, but has a couple of dual wheel, mabe 85 horsepower tractors,was working in a little field about half a mile from me, he drove over when he was finished, and did my garden. He was using something he called a field cultivator, behind the plows was something I think is called a pulverizer, bar, or roller. It broke up the soil and leveled it way better than a tractor mounted tiller. When you're done plowing, one of those would have you a beautiful seed bed.
Hello! Plowing fun! Greetings from Portugal.
Thanks for watching!
@@masseyranch 👌
Nice ploughing your doing there. Here in the UK we use reversible ploughs don't see many like yours around.
Reversible plows used to be used in America for hillside plowing. Erosion control has pretty much stopped that.
I got a 3 pt hitch 2-12 uses the same dang shear bolt, I was breaking them so often I took and drilled out to next size up, was definitely worth it
We plowed with a IH 550, 5-14" with an Allis XT190, handled it pretty good! Massey 178 wouldn't do it! I was going to comment about the front not being deep enough, but after you made the adjustments, looks good! And my Dad would kill you if the ends weren't straight across🤣! Back in the early 70"s! And I have plowed with an old JD B with an one way plow, one farrow both ways!
Your Allis XT 190 probably had about 30 more horsepower then the Massey 178 and more weight. A Massey 1100 or a Massey Ferguson 285 would have pulled your 5.14’s We would pull 4.16’s behind a Massey 285 81hp with no problem . Today I have a 1990 Massey Ferguson 3070 92hp that pulls 4.16’s that is a #82 Massey Ferguson plow.
@@donaldthomas5852 the Massey was brand new, went up to the ST. Lawerance and picked it up! Bought it just for pulling those plows!! Nope!! So we knew we had to have more HP!!
@@br927 horse power isn’t the problem you need weight.
I’ve never seen one with shear bolts. My John Deere 145 is a trip bottom like your other plow and all you have to do is back up and the plow swings back into position. We have lots of rocks and trip bottoms frequently. Yours sure plows nice.
To be honest I didn’t see that it used shear bolts until I had already bid on it 😂!
@@masseyranch Interesting, I didn't realize a plow of that vintage could have shear bolts, I thought they were all safety trips with shims.
All the plows I had had cushion trips or auto reset, but do know that some plow models could be ordered using shear bolts.
That looks like some really good soil. Around here its more like plowing rocks and clay
Plowing a field normally let's you immediately what soil you maybe dealing with and that looks like some awesome soil. I'm interested to know if you had to add any nutrients? Great video
Just using DAP & Urea for now!
Measure the distance between the plough shear and the disc to get the correct cut on the disc on any furrow using 3 fingers on edge
1000 Bucks well spent by the time you get her all fixed up!
That’s right on the money on what I’ve got in it!
The last furrow could have been n 2 inches deeper. All n all,you were doing good job.
That’s nice ploughin. It properly ploughed no green. Far better for the soil takes less makin ready. Gud ploughin halfs tbe makin ready
Hi why do you only plough 8 ins when i do pasture there are more than 5 years old i set the plough at 12 ins and 10 on normal annual ploughing just a little advice from a earlier competition plougher when you start a field then make a starting furrow by using your rear furrow and leave your linkage up go down the field and go back while your deptwheel is going in your first pass and then start to plough in to that large deep furrow you might also like to mark up your headlands by having your rear furrow scratching in 3 ins dept all this take a little time but leave a nice clean job and real nice clean headlands
4430 &the 4440 are the same love them both along with 8430 2950 720 G B A 4020 pwr shift they all did a lot of work for me
There's LOTS of difference between a 4430 and 4440. 4440s had more iron and the 466 engine, 4 pinion planetaries like the late 4430s. Deere called them the Iron Horses for a good reason. 4440 started a lot easier when cold and they command a much higher price at Auction. Nothing wrong with a 4430, but I'll take a 4440 or 4450 any day over a 4430.
Where we live. We call those green areas headlands.
the 4430 was the best tractor ever farmed with it 25 years pulled a 6 bottom ih plow 21 ft harrow
Being from Wisconsin , 4430 would struggle with 6 .depends what part of state ur plowing
@@kurtneumann3164 I'm from up by Hayward, Wi. and I pull a 6 bottom 2500 variable spread out to 22 inches all day long with a 4430 because the 4630 was down a few days. No problem at all. Tho I have to admit both tractors are turned up and it is sand country. My favorite tractors by far.
nice looking soil what is the soil type, we had a plow just like yours. we had several fields with high clay contents but our 4430 handled it pretty good . worked for a cousin for several years ran his 876 versitile pulling a 10x 18 " plow great to revisit those days for a bit
It’s mostly clay/loam mixture, it’s not very deep to reach the subsoil layer below the topsoil. It’s why I wouldn’t plow deeper than 7-8 ins. Thanks for watching!
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You catch the place just right that it fluff up the dirt but if you plow it to wet it gets to we're you can't work the soil unless it's wet we never would work our dirt unless it's right moisture because it get to we're you couldn't work no more unless it was wet condition you learn from working dirt that you take advantage of the condition I'm not sure what you grow there but in peanut County down here we're we got this red clay s you got work it at certain times of the year for best results
I can’t tell b/c I’m not there in person, but your issue with coulters not cutting may be either 1) they are possibly worn down to much. They usually have a small hole drilled through them. Once the hole gets to the edge they are considered worn out.
2) you might not be getting your plow deep enough. I pull a JD 995 plow 15”-17” deep.
If you are achieving the results you want then it doesn’t matter if your coulters are touching or not.
They measure 16 in, the new blades that were said to be used with it are 20 in. They are worn smooth out. I have the new ones to put on it, they didn’t show up in time to use them this round. I was happy anyway did fair enough without them
👍🏻getting the results you want is all that counts. I don’t run coulters in front of my plow points.
You mean 15-17 centimeters? 🤣
Where do u live.15 to 17 inches deep .he's using moldboard plows not a subsoiler. He couldn't pull those plows sunk that deep .8 inches is plenty deep
A nice, shiny piece for being 50 years old!
Why moldboard plow instead of chisel?
A four bottom flip would plow more acres per hour because you wouldn't have to dead head as much. Fuel consumption may improve for the same reason.
Well I found a couple and they were out of my price range. I totally agree they’d be better, if I was going to be using a plow for more than breaking sod and plowing terraces I’d invest in one
I plowed many years in Wisconsin with a 5 bottom plow.
It's a John deere no worry about a cold start
I probably wouldn’t turn it over for a while or without a cover crop or something to turn under, we no till which seems to be really good after establishing. But you def wanna keep that soil from washing
I no tilled sorghum Sudan directly into the oats. My tillage practices are not married to any one style, I let the conditions of the soil dictate how I farm
With the restrictions on commercial farming getting tougher you'll see more plowing going on and green plow under rotation
What is that steel right above moldboard? Looks like it would help turn heavy sod?
I believe it’s called a trash board and it’s job to help roll heavy material & prevent plugging
Hello, can you give information about agriculture in America? What plants do you plant? How much profit do you make per hectare?
300 bucks? man you can just about get that back in scrap
I’m sure it’ll be there someday! 😂
bread and butter ploughing
Happy late birthday.
Thank you!
Looks like you do not have plow in ground deep enough is biggest problem. Front of plow is not moving enough dirt to fully fill furrow left by last pass that is not deep enough. How fast are you going?
The first pass he showed had the tractor wheel on the unplowed ground. Once he drops the tire into the furrow the plow will be level and will be rolling the dirt properly. Mounted plows are difficult to level with the initial pass. Pull type plows had a lever to raise the furrow wheel to level the plow when opening a field. Once you have made the initial pass you lower the furrow tire and the plow is level again.
This is a semi-mounted plow not a mounted plow. If you look at the side view of the plow running when tractor is in furrow the front bottom is not running as deep as the rear. Dealers used to demonstrate their tractor would pull an extra bottom by raising the front of the plow to barely fill the furrow while the rear of the plow was plowing deeper. @@jti2007
@@royl9858 Mounted or semi-mounted plows still need to be leveled by adjusting the lift arms on the tractor. I can see the first bottom not quite rolling as much dirt as the rest. Interesting how dealers would over sell the power of their tractors. I know in my area of Kansas the so called 5 plow tractor had a battle with a 4 bottom plow. We always deducted at least one bottom from any dealers expectations.
@@jti2007 I agree with leveling the lift arms but you can also let the 3 pt down a little more on the semi-mount on the first pass or any other time needed to maintain an even depth. The depth you are plowing and how well the plow is set determines how many bottoms you can pull with the same tractor.
@@jti2007 trailer type and mounted plows,,,both have adjustments for first pass and later passes that willl allow constant depth along all plows,,,
Why are you plowing with the land hitch swung clear over to the left ?
nothing like fresh plowed ground
Wish I could find a 5 bottom plow for $300. Where I live people think those would be worth a million dollars
It was in need of a decent amount of work but I’m still in it less than 1,000$ over all and it’s got a lot of life left in it now
Where are you guys from what make are your plows
Kansas, this is a 1970’s John Deere 1350 18” 5 bottom
I am from Sinclairville New York Western Part of New York
Points look wore out too. Nice plow
They’re brand new
John deere is simply the best all the rest are wishing they were john deere but they are all of the rest nothing runs like a deere
Moldboard is King.
Don't know a thing about plowing. Here in sw ne everyone's no til. About the only thing plows like that are used for is rebuilding terraces. I know an old timer told me one, if your breaking sod to farm, once you plow it, working it three or so more times right after a rain. Enjoyed your video looks like your turning the soil and burying all the sod and root mass
Well I’m not an expert by any means, I’ve also used no-till and still do in our main operation. I wanted to remove the brush/stumps was my motivation behind using the plow. I’ve been over it once with a disk and we’ve got rain in the forecast so we’ll see! Thanks!
This is farming no green star your green start is that beer can the last two hours of work
i try to cut to 6" or 7" deep,,looks like you are only about 4,,,,am i right?? My 4430 pulls 4 16"s at about 7 mph
7-8 in most the better soil
I plow deep enough so I can't see the moldboard
We Pull Our Plows around 11 Inches Deep Down Here In South Georgia. All Peanut Acreage Is Broke On Our Farm
Better put your hard hat on when you do the headlands.
300$.plow? Never heard of the like. But I'm used to getting screwed on some deals. I don't have the gift to gab.
Why use a breaking plow over something like a VTT?
Because I wanted use affordable equipment that could be used with my haying tractor. I explain the basics in my first video titled “Welcome”
Wow, $300.
Can’t hear over wind / engine . When ya get the audio figured out ,I’ll come back… or not. But for now ,Next
I lost more hammers that way.
How would you like to run a European 🇪🇺 one way Plough .Way more than $300
It’s a dying art here in the states, I watched several plows that were in a lot better shape all sell around 1000$ dollars a couple weeks ago at the local consignment auction.
@@masseyranch We plough almost everything here in Ireland. Ploughed with Keverland 7 furrow one way autoreset on john deere 8220 .Never stop for stones or aney thing just keep ploughing on .Best job one coud ask for
Your draft control is not set correctly . Not plowing the same depth all the way across.
a 14 or 16' non folding miller offset disk with genuine miller designed blades or a oneway can easily cut that deep., a miller offset with non miller style blades is like most other disks supposedly designed for primary tillage but in reality barely scratch the ground.. most moldboard plows were pulled at a depth of half their spacing or deeper, example 5 bottom 16" spacing would be 8" or more, 5x18" plow would be 9" etc, I am subscribing to your channel to see how your bermuda works out, havnt spriiged any in 30 years or more, considering sprigging some more bermuds with clovers,,
The drawback to moldboard plowing is people can permanently screw up land if they don't know what their doing
I agree
Same applies to reproduction 😂
All that brush you turned will act as compost for your first crop .
Need to speed up another gear
4430 could of pulled a 5 bottom with no problem
It is a 5 bottom
clearly you don't know how to use a breaking plow. you are not close to being deep enough because your plow is skimming the top of the ground in spots. lower the back wheel a notch if it still skims drop it another set of holes. Then level the plow so the front is going as deep as the back . When it trips pick up the plow pull up and lower the front and back up and it will set it back in place if it trips the back lower the back and back up to reset.
Ya mean raise the wheel
It's doin a good job. Quiet you
I have a plow just like that but mine only has one tire with one cylinder
Well being critical of a man wont get you any respect
@@michaelmckinney401 F you dude who cares it is f**king TH-cam. Just giving a little advice from experience.
Thats one thing u dont see much of anymore is a breaking plow but one day ever farmer is gonna have to break every acre they have its gonna get so packed nothings gonna grow in it
Why don't you put the dam plow in the ground?????*
For $300 I hope that plow holds up
its as strong as it was when new, they dont get weak with age
I have plowed for years , but you don’t know how to start a headland or how to raise and drop your plow at ends in an even manner.
I’ll be sure you’re there next and you can show me! 👍
@terrybeason4356
Bite me!
It's not like he's gonna row crop it. Thot he said it was going back to cattle, so no big need to plow it like us old-timers did. Lol
Terry ,you probably weren't an expert when you were young and first started plowing so either offer some good advise on how to improve or just keep your pie hole shut ! Back in the day I ran a spinner JD plow on irrigated ground straight and level ,not my first rodeo !
Sorrry all you idiots. I started with a four bottom John Deere and ended with a 14 bottom IH and I can still plow better keeping my drops on the ends straight every time. Of course I only have about 18,000 acres of moldboard experience, but do it right, if your going to put it on TH-cam.
Not a plow to use in rocky ground.
Not if you doing a ton of acres, it’s ok for little projects like I used it on. If you had to plow 500 acres I’m sure messing with shear bolts would get old fast lol!
You are going too fast throwing the sod rather than laying it in even rows
Tractor is too large for that plow...wasting diesel
It is for a 6 bottom plow 4430 125 hp
It’s a 5 bottom 18”
Not any 6 inch spots
U aren’t going deep enough, I knew u could pull a 5 bottom deep enough, 6 no way, only reason it’s better than dishing is u are cutting everything off 4-5” so the disc has that much loose dirt to play in
It a 6 plow
Its wonderful beeing a farmer we are the most lucky guys
I totally agree!!
I',m a custom operator. Thought you keep going into the next furrow. you're piling up in the center and have two furrows on the outside. That different than what I've seen around. What's up ?