My NRA edition is a gen 3 in all aspects described. 0 issues. Trigger feels a little gritty and the recoil spring is quite stiff, but I imagine that will even out after a few hundred rounds. Only have 150ish rds through it so far with no issues.
Just purchased the gen 3 BOD August 2018. Mine felt gritty as well. Disassembled wiped it all out with alcohol, cleaned everything completely with Ballistol and reassembled, as I do with all firearms when I buy them. After that, the slide was extremely smooth. Much more so than my glocks that I am very familiar with. Can’t wait to get out and shoot it now, so I can get it dirty and clean it again. Lol.
LukeVj Hi. Do you still have the box? If so, on the barcode label (The one that has Made in USA). It states it there. For example mine is dated 02-NOV-2018.
Inside the frame at the front, the circle you see indicates the molding date (Month and Year), and the number is the cavity number of the mold. I will assume that because your particular frame has no number that it was cast from a single cavity mold. That doesn't mean that multi-cavity molds are not still being used. This is a non-issue. Rest assured that the injection molding facility that makes these frames probably doesn't specialize in flower pots.
Interestingly, I have a Gen 3 frame (with no numbers near the edge), with a Gen 2 barrel based on your descriptions. Bought the gun brand new with a manufacture date of 09/2018. Someone else mentioned anything after 07/2018 should be fine. I just hope I have the thickened striker. Gun has been flawless so far.
These are not generations of the P365. These are modifications that Sig has made over the last 1 1/2 years. I talk to a Sig Rep last week about the P365 & I was told that there are no generations but simple modifications have been made. The latest pistol since July 2018 have been running flawlessly. Strikers have been fixed & trigger springs have been cut slightly longer. I’ve put 2,200 rds. through my P365 with ZERO malfunctions. Great little pistol in my opinion!
That firing pin has a thicker neck to it due to the primer drag that they can’t resolve. The older gens were braking at the base of the firing pen head
@@Fauxbra I got one this week and took it out today and checked all the shells and none of mine had drag on them. maybe they put a different spring in the stopper so it would go back easier but I'm just guessing since I have nothing to compare mine to
@@wades623 It's possible, but i think the issue is , with so little travel of the slide there simply is not enough space and time to fully retract the striker before the spent casing needs to start ejecting which results in the primer drag issue.
0:57 ... I think it's crazy they had to round off that inner corner at the base of the firing pin (esp with primer drag and dry firing being considered. It's a common problem with other firearms and the solution of using a radius has been known for about 100 years now when it comes to firearms... and probably longer when it comes to manufacturing other things. It's not a recent discovery.
Same dates that distinguish gen 1 from Gen 2. When they fix the problems I guess. But finished the video. Any info guys?. Friend just bought one, build date December of 2018
@@tmc6185 Mine is good to 25 yards, haven't really shot it past that. Some people on TH-cam were hitting at 50 yards. There's not much difference till you go past that.
Mine was a 7/20 build, but had the Gen 2 barrel and the Gen 3 striker and frame. Had numerous light strikes and Sig replaced my barrel with one that looks like the Gen 3 you have there. My thought is I had a Gen 3 which used the barrel and slide from remaining Gen 2 stock...
@@killervztwogaming5796 That's right. And the point IS, have they got this "game changer" working correctly yet. Some say yes and some say no. Might give it a try, next yr. Rolling changes to me means Sig used the public as their guinea pigs.
@@grady7443 i finally grabbed one after hearing nothing but praise after the last changes, and i am very happy. i wanted this to be a game changer, and i think it is now. but people need to be practical and unbiased, it was a rocky release. and bad feedback helps companies refine their product lines.
@@killervztwogaming5796 Yeah, a real rocky start. Doesn't speak well for the much heralded Sig. They tried to cheap out. The company that did the mims had been in trouble before for less than stellar manufacturing. Anyway, I'll probably try one next year. Sig should have it worked out completely by then.
Actually all the users on the major sig forums are calling them "gen 1,2,3." There is nothing wrong with users using this notation. There clearly are generations of changes. It is helpful to potential buyers. I would not buy without knowing build date and effective generation
On the Gen 1 and 2 where the shinier finish changes to a matte finish near the top there is a small number 1 on the Gen 1 and a 2 on the Gen 2. Whereas the Gen 3 just has that circular stamp.
Thanks for the review! Dang it, though, I wanted to hear rainbows and lollipops. Rough finish internals. Gritty slide. I so want to blame the messenger.
Weird. I don't know what to make of the gritty slide and machine marks. I suppose some polishing will fix that, but it's a bit disappointing. As long as it works I guess.
Good video. I just got one born on Dec 3, 2018. Hope they have it figured out by now. The trigger has a lot of creep/mushy but I hope that works itself out.
I tried the latest one, in the trigger feels mushy and stuff too. I'm favoring going towards the Hellcat. Preferred I really don't want to come I really want to like the 365 better. But not happening so far. Haven't decided yet
I believe you have some differences inside your fire control unit it looks like the ejector may be smaller and the older gens had relief cuts inside for the barrel lug that is not on your gen 3.
Appreciate your vid but as a critique it would be nice for you to clearly say which gen you are FIRST holding up, before you compare them to other gens. At 0:37....you call this "firing pin spring"....you make no mention that Gen 1 is considerably longer, with higher coil-count, you only show the 3 pics. Why? Any comments on this point? At 1:28....you say the extractor spring "looks like they have beefened it up from the Gen2" ( are you now holding a gen3?)...yet, you later say, it isn't as beefy as Gen 1?...is that what you're saying? That the strongest is Gen1, weakest is Gen 2?.....and Gen 3 is "in-between"? As to the barrel engraving.....why not simply say Gen 3 is straight-font whereas Gen 1 and Gen 2 are different to one-another....but both these use slant font? At 2:45 you say Gen 1 and Gen 2 DOES have numbers on the front of the grip frame whereas Gen 3 does not. The pics you show don't show that very clearly, maybe you mean the single digit up front for Gen 1 and 2 but these are very hard to see. The only thing the pics show very clearly is that the "date wheel" is stamped further back on Gen 1 and 2....whereas Gen 3 has the "date wheel" much further forward. Much easier to identify this way. Lastly, as long as you were pulling the trigger....would have been nice to keep your finger back, rack the slide, and show us the reset travel...and how you think this compares. All told thanks for the vid, but I think the clarity of presentation going from one gen to another could have been a bit clearer. Cheers.
@@2S1L3NT .. my comment is over 2 years old.....get a grip. Besides, the critique is still valid. I don't need to make a better video but any viewer can question "what-is-what?" if the presenter isn't being very clear which version of the gun he is comparing to another version....what "value" is an informative vid if it confuses people which guns are being compared...and therefore isn't clear.
How do you know what is gen it is unless you open it up? Sig has never officially made different generations of 365. I'll pass anyway. Can't be trusted. I'm not tearing apart guns to make sure I dont get a gen1.
Excellent and thorough comparison video between all 3 gens, very informative!
Excellent. I have two gen 3s and the slide started gritty and is better now after a few hundred rounds.
My NRA edition is a gen 3 in all aspects described. 0 issues. Trigger feels a little gritty and the recoil spring is quite stiff, but I imagine that will even out after a few hundred rounds. Only have 150ish rds through it so far with no issues.
Just purchased the gen 3 BOD August 2018. Mine felt gritty as well. Disassembled wiped it all out with alcohol, cleaned everything completely with Ballistol and reassembled, as I do with all firearms when I buy them. After that, the slide was extremely smooth. Much more so than my glocks that I am very familiar with. Can’t wait to get out and shoot it now, so I can get it dirty and clean it again. Lol.
Update: BOD was actually November 2 2018.
How can I check the manufacture date on mine
LukeVj Hi. Do you still have the box? If so, on the barcode label (The one that has Made in USA). It states it there. For example mine is dated 02-NOV-2018.
Tgray2064 thank you
LukeVj more than welcome. How are you liking your. Still loving mine. Great shooter
Inside the frame at the front, the circle you see indicates the molding date (Month and Year), and the number is the cavity number of the mold. I will assume that because your particular frame has no number that it was cast from a single cavity mold. That doesn't mean that multi-cavity molds are not still being used. This is a non-issue. Rest assured that the injection molding facility that makes these frames probably doesn't specialize in flower pots.
Interestingly, I have a Gen 3 frame (with no numbers near the edge), with a Gen 2 barrel based on your descriptions. Bought the gun brand new with a manufacture date of 09/2018. Someone else mentioned anything after 07/2018 should be fine. I just hope I have the thickened striker. Gun has been flawless so far.
good explanation of rolling improvements on P365
Did Sig ever change the finish on the slide from when the firearm was first released?
These are not generations of the P365. These are modifications that Sig has made over the last 1 1/2 years. I talk to a Sig Rep last week about the P365 & I was told that there are no generations but simple modifications have been made. The latest pistol since July 2018 have been running flawlessly. Strikers have been fixed & trigger springs have been cut slightly longer. I’ve put 2,200 rds. through my P365 with ZERO malfunctions. Great little pistol in my opinion!
Gen 1, Gen 2, etc. is much simpler to say than "Simple Modifications Version 3".
Very helpful. You're helping a lot of folks with this comparison. Keep up the good work!
Very helpful, thanks a Lot!
Interesting content. And the Springfield hellcat got it right from day one.
That firing pin has a thicker neck to it due to the primer drag that they can’t resolve. The older gens were braking at the base of the firing pen head
@Vin Vin what did they do to resolve it.
@@ernk75 They broadened the firing pin taper so it can withstand primer drag stresses.
@@Fauxbra I got one this week and took it out today and checked all the shells and none of mine had drag on them. maybe they put a different spring in the stopper so it would go back easier but I'm just guessing since I have nothing to compare mine to
@@wades623
It's possible, but i think the issue is , with so little travel of the slide there simply is not enough space and time to fully retract the striker before the spent casing needs to start ejecting which results in the primer drag issue.
What gen is that lawnmower I hear at 4:30 ?
Gen 1
Shoot Wise
Ha! Smart asses
Mine was born 08/2019. Still gritty. And still issues with failure to extract.
That sucks!
I have one manufactured on July 2020, it has a 1 on the frame
2021 mine to one on the frame
SIG said they put some kind of divots in the barrel on the Gen 3. Two of them. Did you notice those?
0:57 ... I think it's crazy they had to round off that inner corner at the base of the firing pin (esp with primer drag and dry firing being considered. It's a common problem with other firearms and the solution of using a radius has been known for about 100 years now when it comes to firearms... and probably longer when it comes to manufacturing other things. It's not a recent discovery.
At what gen did they start making the stainless steel versions?
I have one manufactured on september "Gen 3" and the font on the barrel looks like the one on "Gen 2"
Would you happen to know how many yards is the p365 zeroed at, out of the box?
Buying a used born on 2/10/2019. Should be ok?
Yes. I have one the same date and it works great! I bought it used also and put a lot of rounds through it. Never a problem.
Excellent job, thank you very much
Same dates that distinguish gen 1 from Gen 2. When they fix the problems I guess. But finished the video. Any info guys?. Friend just bought one, build date December of 2018
Did the grit feeling from your gen 3 ever go away? I'm looking at a December 2019 model that feels the same.
Mine works flawlessly, that's all I care about. 2500 rounds to date.
Would you happen to know how many yards is the p365 zeroed at, out of the box?
@@tmc6185 Mine is good to 25 yards, haven't really shot it past that. Some people on TH-cam were hitting at 50 yards. There's not much difference till you go past that.
Well that's one that works without a problem 🤣
Any issues from the third revision since this video?
BOD is Dec 2018 and I only have about 400 rounds through it. Scared to carry it by itself.
Mine was a 7/20 build, but had the Gen 2 barrel and the Gen 3 striker and frame. Had numerous light strikes and Sig replaced my barrel with one that looks like the Gen 3 you have there. My thought is I had a Gen 3 which used the barrel and slide from remaining Gen 2 stock...
I had some light strikes but I only had the issue with some old Remington ammo I had I didn’t have any issues with the aluminum ammo I ised
Dou you know if gen3 has the same problem with the fire pin?
I Saw there is a Big diference now !
Thanks for the video, it helps out a lot. I have a Gen 2 from 7/2018
There are no “gens” with the 365. There are only “rolling changes”; an employee of SIG confirmed this.
call it what they want. theyve stopped production to make changes 3 times. i call that 3 generations.
@@killervztwogaming5796 That's right. And the point IS, have they got this "game changer" working correctly yet. Some say yes and some say no. Might give it a try, next yr. Rolling changes to me means Sig used the public as their guinea pigs.
@@grady7443 i finally grabbed one after hearing nothing but praise after the last changes, and i am very happy. i wanted this to be a game changer, and i think it is now.
but people need to be practical and unbiased, it was a rocky release.
and bad feedback helps companies refine their product lines.
@@killervztwogaming5796 Yeah, a real rocky start. Doesn't speak well for the much heralded Sig. They tried to cheap out. The company that did the mims had been in trouble before for less than stellar manufacturing. Anyway, I'll probably try one next year. Sig should have it worked out completely by then.
Actually all the users on the major sig forums are calling them "gen 1,2,3." There is nothing wrong with users using this notation. There clearly are generations of changes. It is helpful to potential buyers. I would not buy without knowing build date and effective generation
02:45 you said the gen3 has no numbers. Yet you show the gen 3 with numbers and gen 2 with no numbers. Explain
On the Gen 1 and 2 where the shinier finish changes to a matte finish near the top there is a small number 1 on the Gen 1 and a 2 on the Gen 2. Whereas the Gen 3 just has that circular stamp.
Thanks for the review!
Dang it, though, I wanted to hear rainbows and lollipops.
Rough finish internals. Gritty slide. I so want to blame the messenger.
@Vin Vin I made it all the way through Black Friday, etc. without buying one. Comments like yours aren't helping.
Are any of the Gen 2 or 3 parts retrofittable to the Gen 1 ? Any worth spending $ on?
if you're having issues why wouldn't you call sig? even though it might be a bit of a pain to deal with them they will probably still fix it
Well I guess I'm Gen 3. I totally forgot when I had bought this thing. Thanks, lol.
Weird. I don't know what to make of the gritty slide and machine marks. I suppose some polishing will fix that, but it's a bit disappointing. As long as it works I guess.
@champer slimmerthannone Exactly. Who cares? Anyone who paid top shelf prices for a polymer framed micro 9mm that's who.
why the fuck is this age restricted
Good video. I just got one born on Dec 3, 2018. Hope they have it figured out by now. The trigger has a lot of creep/mushy but I hope that works itself out.
b ach mine has that same born on date. I love it. No malfunctions out of 500 rounds
I tried the latest one, in the trigger feels mushy and stuff too. I'm favoring going towards the Hellcat. Preferred I really don't want to come I really want to like the 365 better. But not happening so far. Haven't decided yet
Man You Fact Churred.
I believe you have some differences inside your fire control unit it looks like the ejector may be smaller and the older gens had relief cuts inside for the barrel lug that is not on your gen 3.
Appreciate your vid but as a critique it would be nice for you to clearly say which gen you are FIRST holding up, before you compare them to other gens. At 0:37....you call this "firing pin spring"....you make no mention that Gen 1 is considerably longer, with higher coil-count, you only show the 3 pics. Why? Any comments on this point?
At 1:28....you say the extractor spring "looks like they have beefened it up from the Gen2" ( are you now holding a gen3?)...yet, you later say, it isn't as beefy as Gen 1?...is that what you're saying? That the strongest is Gen1, weakest is Gen 2?.....and Gen 3 is "in-between"?
As to the barrel engraving.....why not simply say Gen 3 is straight-font whereas Gen 1 and Gen 2 are different to one-another....but both these use slant font?
At 2:45 you say Gen 1 and Gen 2 DOES have numbers on the front of the grip frame whereas Gen 3 does not. The pics you show don't show that very clearly, maybe you mean the single digit up front for Gen 1 and 2 but these are very hard to see. The only thing the pics show very clearly is that the "date wheel" is stamped further back on Gen 1 and 2....whereas Gen 3 has the "date wheel" much further forward. Much easier to identify this way.
Lastly, as long as you were pulling the trigger....would have been nice to keep your finger back, rack the slide, and show us the reset travel...and how you think this compares.
All told thanks for the vid, but I think the clarity of presentation going from one gen to another could have been a bit clearer. Cheers.
Make a better video?
@@2S1L3NT .. my comment is over 2 years old.....get a grip. Besides, the critique is still valid. I don't need to make a better video but any viewer can question "what-is-what?" if the presenter isn't being very clear which version of the gun he is comparing to another version....what "value" is an informative vid if it confuses people which guns are being compared...and therefore isn't clear.
Does anyone know if the latest roll out of P365's, Gen 3, have a steel striker or are they still MIM?
Mike Sneary still MIM. I have one with a BOD -Dec. 3 2018
Mine is Gen10 ..was made in 2021 lmao !
haha!
How do I check the b.o.d
There's a label on the case it came in. Look on the side, it will show born on and serial number
What day in September is your gen3?
How do you know what is gen it is unless you open it up? Sig has never officially made different generations of 365. I'll pass anyway. Can't be trusted. I'm not tearing apart guns to make sure I dont get a gen1.
STOP calling it a "grip frame". That is not a thing. The grip is the grip. The "frame" is not really applicable in the modular era.
The pros call it a grip frame
th-cam.com/video/LjUgz5FHR90/w-d-xo.html
Fake news