Bojack Horseman: Unlucky in Love
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2017
- Bojack Horseman, the character, is unlucky in love. But Bojack Horseman, the show, argues that it has little to do with luck- it’s all Bojack’s fault.
Bojack Horseman Season 4 is available to stream on Netflix beginning September 8th.
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This is the cheapest counseling I've ever received
Fox Trap Collective ikr
Same.
It wasn't that bad. Why do you say that?
@@nightseekerklemont7225 he means literally as in COST not that it's shitty
Duuuuuuuuude I feel you on this
BoJack Horseman is one of the most fascinating characters in all of fiction. He's pretty much an objectively shitty person, yet we're compelled to root for him because we see something of ourselves in BoJack. We've all done selfish things, things that we kind of hate ourselves for and we're not sure how to live with those things. We want to see someone like BoJack be happy and perhaps even redeemed, because it would give the rest of us hope.
Knowing that there's so many people that feel that way makes me feel good.
well my moment where i knew that despite him beeing an ass he is someone to "root for" was 'Bojack hates the army' where his opinion on the subject are soo resonable and ther was one moment where almost all of the main characteres where involved, wher i just thought "wow bojack is by far the most Intelligent Person in the room"
Wow, truer words were never spoken.
DinoJake as much as I like the show there are several examples of protagonists who are clearly bad people but we still root for.
Aarif Majeed rick from rick and morty X'D
It depresses me how much of Bojack I see in myself. But it's also a big reason why I love the show so much. Truly masterful writing.
It doesn’t really depress me, it makes me understand myself and I want to better myself
it makes me so fucking scared of myself. about 90% of bojacks character traits i see in myself
Hey man, same here. Hang in there. Though it’s sad it’s getting canceled...
@@zdip2341 you are a terrible human being
Bojack horseman
What is this a cross over episode?!
Ericaaaa!
Ugh... *this* guy.
The Sneezing Picture Bojack show me a smile!
wowwwww
Gets funnier everytime!
I go down a depressing spiral every time I watch this show
Laughing Tree funny enough it didn't happen this time. I was more rooting for Bojack this time around getting really into the plot. Maybe I'm a happier person maybe it wasn't as depressing as usual . What ever the answer I enjoyed season 4 though
Season 4 actually made me pretty happy in the end.
william kirby yeah it did have a pretty happy ending... SPOILERS
except for diane and mr peanut butter....
I use it as a reason to cherish what really matters and not duck it up with the ones that care about me. No excuses.
GameWorks12 thats how i feel when i look at louis ck show or invader zim
I relate too much to bojack way too often
i think lots of us do, for better or (more likely) for worse!
It's crippling: the thought that you're unworthy of love and that only change from within can create a lasting difference, while recognizing how utterly incapable of change most of us are.
kookie_why We are Secretariat.
Bojack horseman. The horseman we can all relate too, but nobody wants to be.
I uh, I think that's the point.
The tragedy of Bojack Horseman isn't that he can't love himself, it's that he thinks love is conditional. This is probably why his so obsessed with fame, because he thinks fame will make him worthy of love. But that's not how it works, if Bojack wants unconditional love then he should unconditionally love himself and the people around him, it may not get him what he wants but it would make a better person... or a better horse.
good stuff.
+Laughing Tree Some people are too in denial to learn how to love themSELVES, as it seems like it's too much effort. I have a friend who would rather do anything but make the effort to learn self love.
Well said! :)
I don't think anyone can love unconditionally there are always strings attached
I think I just learned something very important about myself from your comment (((
Wow, and people say that Rick and Morty is nihilistic.
James Millington Rick and Morty is deep but it's fanbase is probably the worst I've ever seen. There's almost no children among bojack fans though because of how hard it is to take lightly.
Rick and Morty plays around with the idea but it's not this deep show that everyone makes out for it to be. It's good and refreshing but ultimately doesn't have anything that important to say since it dabbles with theories and shit. Bojack Horseman is relatable and is actually based in some sense of reality so that we can all relate to the characters.
James Millington I
Rick And Morty uses those concepts in a kind of shallow way and it will never truly be the main focus of the show. Bojack Horseman uses those concepts as a focus to center the plot around
I would not say that BoJack is nihilistic, or at least entirely, for that would require of him not to be able to find meaning in anything. While he has been able to find meaning in some things, as his relation to Todd, only to screw them up - and let's see what may happen to Hollyhock -, the very fact that he has been searching for purpose and questionably grasped it, as I have seen it, tells me that he is no nihilist, but a deeply scarred person possibly incapable of commiting and giving himself to that which he finds meaningful for reasons too elaborate for me to elaborate upon here and now.
A cartoon , Yes a cartoon about a talking horse has one of the most accurate portrayals of depression and self loathing of any show I've seen
Anthro horse you mean, different than a feral 4 legged unevolved everyday plain animal horse creature as to me anthros are "people who are different" metaphorically along with Xenos (alien folk) and mutants
This is... excuse me... a DAMN fine video
you're excused. thank you!
The owls are not what they seem
Twin Peaks reference is both noted and appreciated
I agree.
Twin Peaks?
My life is like Bojack Horseman, as far as wanting change, being aware of my flaws. Yet, something inside is stopping me from making the actual effort to make things better. I only care about music, making music, or creative writing. I'm the same way, repeating the same things everyday expecting different results, expecting things to get better. That's why I love this show.
DUDE, that totally speaks to me. Whenever I find myself having to get work done to make my life better, I always end up stressing out and then just make music or watch youtube videos. Lately things have gotten bad as I ended up turning to amphetamines and then I make music. I'm thinking this may help a lot, but I'm going to be leaving in about 2 weeks to go to a christian rehab residency program. It's 1 year long. You can't leave, no phones, no books (besides the Bible), and you are only allowed 5 Cd's (christian only). Wish me luck! I hope to change my life and get some self motivation/drive, and not hate myself so much.
Instead of being like bojack and destroying other peoples lives, I ended up living a life of seclusion, deciding to not commit to anything, or only commit to social commitments short term, and not have any social or personal attachments except to my immediate family, I visit about once every week to 2 weeks.
same
Jack Jillz--
Hello stranger,
I don't know anything about you really, but I know so many of us are in the same loop you are. Most of us commenting know what the experience is. I know some of it myself, too.
What I really want to ask you is if you'd be open to talking/sharing about your story? I really want to know that I'm not the only one out here, that we're all going through this, but maybe we don't have to go through it alone. If you're open to the question, maybe reach out outside of TH-cam, like G+, or email better? Honestly, I'm just a lonely, curious human on the face of this planet, with same sly over my own head as you, wondering how to connect instead of flail around hopelessly.
Maybe you won't see this-- you wrote this months ago. If you do, write me an answer. Until then, may the tenacity of being alive and whole be with you.
- h
Season 5 will give me feels and chills.
Shnobbs Man you know it will
does anybody know when season 5 release????
And hopefully not Russian Roulette
soon now ... :) September
humanoideric finally
This is such a brilliant show because the characters, especially Bojack, are so deeply relatable. We all have self-destructive tendencies that lower our self-esteems and soil our interpersonal relationships. Many of us, like Princess Carolyn, use our work as a distraction from how lonely we are. Like Todd, some of us feel like we don't have any useful skills and that we are a burden to others. 100% an amazing show, so happy to have found it.
One of the best shows out there right now. The protagonist is not even a human and yet he has more resemblance to a human being than most of characcters in other tv shows. Whoever hasn't seen it yet do yourself a favor and watch it now!
Well anthros are "people who are different" metaphorically just like Xenos (alien folks) and mutants (especially X-Men and Marvel's).
Dude he's "sad middle aged white man" all over, it's just that he has the added metaphors, jokes, and unique expressiveness of making him a horse instead. But we know precisely Bojack's real life background, race, and can probably make a solid guess about his ethnicity,
One of the reasons why i like Bojack Horseman is because it's down to earth, relatable, and not silly and twisted. Bojack and his friends are not at war with some evil monsters or aliens. The characters don't do cruel things to each other for the sake of comedy. One character doesn't claim to love another and yet is happy when something bad happens to the character they profess to care about. Bojack doesn't have to deal with some evil supervillain. It's a mature show that knows when to tell a joke and when not to. Also, the characters are portrayed to be human.
Thanks to this show and some traumatizing experiences, I was depressed for around eight months. Throughout that time, I felt as if I related to Bojack, but couldn't give a specific reason of why. This video helps give insight on the qualities I used to, and ultimately do still see in myself. Especially the point about his cyncism reaching the point of a self-destructive loop, and being the root of his suicidal and depressive tendencies. Thank you for the video.. excellent breakdown and analysis, and is personally helpful to me.
How did you get out of the depths of depression?! Help pls
"Awareness =/= Change" that hit me fucking hard
This series is the best, i love when there's an extremely large story within, and even though I cried after most episodes i relate too it too much and cant wait to finnish the story
hear hear.
Well, I'm off to cry myself to sleep now.
I just now noticed that the bottle that Bojack is holding in 3:56 is in the exact color scheme as Diane's outfit!
What hurts is that, even if Bojack changed, some people in his past(specifically the people he hurt) will always see narcissist Bojack and never the new "good person" Bojack. And maybe even if they saw new Bojack, all they'll be able to see, in the minds/heart, is the guy who hurt them.
I can't lie guys
If they find a way to wrap this all up in the next season or so, whether bojack kills himself or not, this would become the best serial show I've watched since true detective
Charlotte was never his girlfriend, she was herbs girlfriend
When you binged all of season 4 immediately and now have a deep void inside of you.
As someone who struggles with depression their fearless portrayal of how depression affects people other than the depressed person really gave me feelings.
I'm not like Bojack but certain episodes, especially view from halfway down could have been lifted directly from my life. Its almost too intimate.
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The introduction gave me depression. I felt too identified
I always wondered if his behavior would change if he didnt have the money
Most likely.
I love how your clips actually contribute to your point, rather than just repeat what you just said like most other video esseys. Great video🖒
THIS WAS THE BEST ANALYSIS OF BOJACK HORSEMAN I'VE SEEN AND ONE OF THE BEST TV ANALYSES I'VE SEEN ON YT. WELL DONE! You all have outdone yourself on this one.
Do one about Mr. Peanutbutter!
Princess Carolyn! I was actually looking to taking some time off.
There's not much to that character
God I love this show.
Never seen a single episode and I'm going to start watching it now
Fantastic analysis! This is one of the deepest shows to ever hit TV. I can't wait to see what season 4 has in store!
To confess your fallibility and then do nothing about it is not humble; it is boasting of your modesty.
--Eliezer Yudkowsky
Diane and bojack are just so hard to judge especially after the awards scene in s5.
the fact that i relate to bojack so often is one of the many reasons i love the show, but also really depressing. i’ll laugh at him or feel deeply bc of something he says or does because it reminds me of myself, but then i have to wonder, do other people see me like that too? i mean, i’m not an alcoholic or reliving my “glory days”, but we still have pretty much the same tendencies. this show has changed a lot about my outlook on life and the way i treat myself, especially the “stupid piece of shit” episode. i couldn’t stop laughing both bc it was so relatable and because it was all absurd. made me realize that if i so strongly relate while also empathize and think he doesn’t deserve to feel this way, why am i doing it to myself? i kind of fetishize my own happiness too, and this show has made me realize that. not to mention the fact that nothing will ever make me go against suicide as much as the view from halfway down.
Watching this in 2020 after season 5&6: *Ohhhhh *awkwardly rubs neck*
"What does that have to do with me?" Best ending you could've possibly come up with.
I'm so ready for season 4!!!
Countdown is on!
shoot show Itz almost midnight Im still waiting.
Devious J aay
shoot show just about 130 here
Bring it on
This is way better then i could ever of possibly imagined.
That’s the only advice I can think to give Bojack right now “Just act less shitty whenever you’re around anyone”
I didn't think I'd ever relate to a cartoon horse but here we are
“But I’ve never had a brother”
I have to stop watching clips and video essays on this show and just start watching it.
Waiting for this to drop its past midnight? Need to finish before Irma kills me
please stay safe. thoughts are with you and your community.
ScreenPrism thanks
Season 4 needs to be here NOW!
Spoilers for Season 4. Bojack showed considerable growth in season 4. He helped Holly Hawk find her mother, and had her fathers tell her. In the end he showed kindness towards his mother, even though the relationship was never anything but toxic. We also saw Mister Peanutbutter's dark side and could see that his optimism and outgoing personality were used as a mask to hide his true feelings. Mister Peanutbutter can be awful even worse than Bojack. Mister Peanutbutter has never actually supported Diane in her endeavors He becomes hostile when she brings up the weirdness of his brother's behavior. Mister Peanutbutter was more than willing to see a state run into the ground if it meant that he could win a popularity contest. Todd told Bojack exactly what he needed to hear when he told him that he was responsible for everything wrong in his life. One of the core messages of the show is that there are often very good reasons for the disposition of miserable people, but that they are ultimately responsible for how they treat others.
this is by far my favorite video on Bojack
It’d be interesting to see an update of this video taking Season 4 into account
This hurts me deeply
Take easy, Morty! W-we-we-we will *aaarghhhh* fix that later.
Renan Silva 😇
It disturbs me to say how much of Bojack's life and outlook I can see parallels in. But then again, either it's enjoyed by bad people, or these things are a common feature of the introspective man. I really, REALLY hope it's the 2nd one. Cus my apathy, and oftentimes disgust, for others that I hold dear to me sometimes concerns me. Like my sense of social conscience and belief in needing to be good to others is just an act I fool myself into believing. Like, when I interact with people, I can't remember if it's because I like being with them or if I want something out of them. I could happily become a hermit to stop bothering with people, if it weren't for all the people I would miss out on. Is my interest in other people's way of thinking or culture entirely surface deep - a more complex version of seeing ants in glass? Do I want people to be happy? Yes, why not. Do I want my friends to be happy? Why not. Can't hurt. Don't have anything else to work towards atm. Do I simply see their happiness as a tool to improve my own via their favour? I mean, I want to do good things, but simply because they're no harder and not much less self servicing than bad ones, and I recognise the existence of thought in others. I feel wonder at beautiful things, at the happiness of my family, but do I see these things as no more than interesting things to dissect and study their relationship to others? I hate stupid people, as I understand them, and I think everyone is fucking stupid fucking constantly, so do I hate all people? My sister isn't stupid. My parents aren't stupid. I don't think I hate them. My exes were stupid, but I don't hate them (but I do (but I don't)). I have friends that aren't stupid. But I have ones that I hold dear that I sometimes want to strangle. Truly beat.
Bojack Horseman is a good show that reminded me that we have less time than we think we have, that I should ask my elders about their stories, to write those down, and that I hate everyone, even those I love. I need a hug.
Hyped for season 4 :) love the video
These are amazing analyses! Entertaining and insightful.
i need u guys to update and an essay video on season 5 as well....that was brilliant. one of the best readings of this show i ever seen
This video is incredible. Well done. Best analysis of this show that I've ever seen... And I watch a lot of videos on analysing Bojack Horseman
this was a really well made video it feels like a depressing self help guide aha
And then season 4 came and turned about half of character assumptions in this video on their head
What a fine video analysis, I need more!
It has become my favorite TV show of all time. And videos like this makes me love it even more.
Charlotte was never Bojack's girlfriend.
I needed this video so much today :( Thank you for the upload- your time, vision, and compassion are all present here :)
This was exactly what I was thinking as I binged the show in preparation for season 4 lol... amazing video great editing and analysis of the show and the characters within it...
I always love analysis videos on Bojack. I think it's mainly because I look from afar at it sometimes and go, "Cartoon horseman is the greatest aching feeling ever. How?"
Something to keep in mind for new year's resolutions.
Thanks, I watch a lot of video essays on this cartoon and really like them all.
Brilliant analysis of the show.
How do you feel about how BoJack's been this season compared to the other seasons? I feel like with his past experience, he's tried his damnedest to not repeat himself again when it came to his relationship with Hollyhock, because he saw a lot of himself in her and didn't want her to go down the same path he went down on. Sure things did get bumpy along the way, really, really bumpy mind you. But I think it was the first time I saw him doing all that boring hard work to be a better person, and ultimately, it paid off for him in the end.
I agree. I think the latest season is him finally starting to turn things around. I really thought Bojack was going to ruin Hollyhock's relationship with that guy she met on set, and even though Bojack did prove he wasn't a good guy, he did n't interfere or feel the need to prove to Hollyhock that he was right. He genuinely took good care of her and didn't do shitty things to people. I think we'll see him continue to struggle with doing the right thing, but I love how the season ended on a very hopeful note.
Ray03595 Me too, that smile on his face that he has just shows me that even the most miserable people in the world can find an ounce of happiness in their lives.
great video, i love bojack, keep up the great work and interesting topics you guys always do!
appreciate that Sean. lots of awesome stories/shows to choose from. can be tough sometimes to choose, so feedback always welcomed, positive or otherwise.
how is it that such a show can be so depressing to watch and yet be this good to continue watching it?
Damn this video is gold
WOW this is spot on. Not just for BoJack but perhaps for so many others who stuck in a loop of self-sabotage.
CAN'T WAIT UNTIL TOMMOROW.
I love you Bojack
i really liked wanda. i wish there was more of her later in the series
I would say mr peanut butter loves him platonically
Wow! I don't comment very often on videos but this one is on a whole other level. Thank you for doing this. Like many others, sometimes Bojack can be so relatable to me it's scary. Anyway, you got a new subscriber. Great work!
I feel like bojack is pretty relatable in some aspects. Notably me wanting to feel loved and wanting to know if someone out there gives a Fuck about me and I constantly worry about if people like me
6:30 Bojack and Charlotte never dated, so she can't be his ex-girlfriend.
Excellent analysis
This is a ridiculously depressing program to watch. Both by cartoon and TV show standards
Don't disagree, but too many laughs to be had in between the darkness to make it too 'depressing'. 2 cents.
ScreenPrism Fair enough, but there are still a ton of dark moments
Ben Wasserman I love how it is dark & its honesty is brutally depressive yet it never feels angsty or melodramatic. I guess the bright colours, silly puns, talking cartoon animals & juxtaposition with comedy really helps with that.
no doubt. super super dark.
jay kj I genuinely do feel it's way too angsty. It's like the creator is trying to get over some deep depression in their own mind and is using this show as a scapegoat or even a crux to try his best to get over it. All the depressing stuff like nihilism, and love being a lie is super melodramatic and teenage angst.
Ok now i need to rewatch this show
Great video! Would love to see a video about The Handmaid's Tale.
Coming soon :)
I don't see why so many people have to argue over whether Bojack Horseman is better than Rick and Morty or not. The shows set out to accomplish two different things in two different ways; Can't we just accept that both shows are good?
They're both good, compared to?
One's better than the other, that's also comparison.
Can't you just accept this?
This and Wisecracks video on the show are the best analysis' of BoJack Horseman
I feel like with addition of season 4 currently, an update video would be very good here
As for Wanda, I feel full on optimism that Diana had would be overbearing. A person without emotional flaws or some sort of insecurities can be insecure in itself for the more damaged person.. at least myself. Cause I dated a Wanda before, and it made me feel wrong and not myself since I know I can’t meet her constantly happy/optimistic standards, just as Bojack felt and went through.
Do more videos on these characters its really interesting
You should do a piece on Rick and Morty. Especially with how they approach relationships and the idea of love along with the psychological affects of their adventures, it's just as thought provoking as this show.
I rewatched this video and now I think why bojacks relationship with Diane speaks to me so much. I knew that Mr. Peanutbutter was a better partner for Diane, but I just truly wanted Bojack and her to be together. Now I realize I was just projecting my own desires on to their relationship. I fell in love with my best friend's best friend. He and I were so similar and we almost started seeing each other. But my friend realized she had liked him for years and wanted to be with him. And I let her. She didn't know I liked him though. I know she's better for him, so I decided to give him up. She's a Mr. Peanutbutter type: optimistic and lovable. But now I can relate to Bojack and feel the pain he feels.
Watching this analysis after seeing season 5 makes me sad for Diane and Peanut Butter.
Beautiful!!
Brilliant analysis.
Good video. When it comes to love or happiness, Bojack seeks instant results rather than taking time to adapt. Like getting a soda out of a vending machine.
I'm 22, I feel partially relatable to Bojack. I grew up in the same kind of family Bojack had. I haven't had any relationship and I feel I couldn't. I'm not brave enough. And im aware that I can't love myself. I want to love others but I never believe they will love me. I feel like im in the cul de sac.
You and me both man
Don't worry somewhere someone will love you however you just don't know it yet
Can't wait for the new season!
It's fun watching these videos after the series has concluded
I’m still so sad things didn’t work out with Wanda. I liked her a lot.
Wanda was also hoping that BoJack would come back, but instead, he went to Charlotte.
Good analysis. I can't wait for tomorrow
Whoever made this video is a genius!