Fixing a laptop is one of the most satisfying projects to complete! There are so many different sorts of items that can be replaced and repaired, it turns into like ten projects into one and when everything comes together including a decent upgrade; new life arises from the dead...
I agree, especially if you can get your hands on a lot of broken ones. I just recently started upgrading the CPU in working laptops using broken ones. It's really fun turning them into a Hackintosh as well. Lol
Ugh. Please don't misunderstand me: I'm not trying to tell you that your opinion is wrong. Everyone is different, and that is what makes the world interesting. But for me (15 year long relationship with building and fixing desktop PC's) I found working on laptops to be much less fun. Each to his\her own.
I know you always say, don't follow what you do, but you gave me enough info, and the courage to try, so last year the wife and I go dumpster diving, at the end of the college school year, and found so many good things, one was a fully working ps3 first Gen, with the flip up front part, added that to my ps collection, but the best dive was this Toshiba laptop, it is only a few months old at the time, about 1 year old now, and I couldn't get it to work, I took the knowledge you shared, and made a power cord for it, which got it to at least turn on so I could figure out what was wrong with it, I fiddled around with it, replaced a few things, and got it to work, and it's the one you can flip backwards and it becomes a tablet, a 17" tablet, I was so happy, and cause it's a foldable tablet model it also has touch screen, I have since given it to my wife, cause I use her new laptop for my electronic drums to run software on it, but want to thank you for giving me a direction to go to finally fix a truly nice laptop, thanks buddy.
You struck gold with the toilet roll. I found an old bottle of hand sanitizer i a week ago, I bought it about 6 months ago. 11 yr old saw that I left it in my car.. "dont leave valuables in the car he warned me" 😂
@@knighthawk86855 your right it needs a good mixing because its old stock most people would buy the small tubes i would be trying to pull the plunger out and mix it in the tube with a bit of thin rod/skewer
@@captain_sp33dy MX-4 is a very good paste, obviously something not right with that one. Ive seen many thermal pastes that look runny to start on first use, but usually a few squirts and its normal again.
Yup if only Is for browser web put a ssd Is a great upgrade, apart for that you can upgrade the cpu, sometin like i5 or i7, and up you ram to 8gb ddr or 16gb, for cheap
Most modern laptops use a NGFF wifi/bluetooth card that has two antennas- one of them is just for wifi and the other is shared between wifi and bluetooth. They use two antennas so they can use a technique called spatial multiplexing, where they can send different data on the exact same frequency at the exact same time, and get higher throughput. This is called MIMO, which means Multiple In, Multiple Out.
Toshibas are generally easy to work on. In fact, you probably noticed for screen replacement it wasn't even necessary to take apart the top from bottom. That MX-4 is NOT normal, it should NOT look like that watery consistency. I've worked on laptops for a long time, it was a bit surprisingly and enjoyable to see a first-timer (more or less, and being you) get on with it. Great as always
Proud of you mate. Should do more laptops. For future reference: - be very careful with heatsinks, a bend or kink in the copper pipes can severely limit cooling capability - MX4 shouldn't be so watery. Something was certainly off. You were spot on about that - When repasting, avoid lifting up the heatsink and putting it back down as you introduce air bubbles which is undesired. You want a thin even application rather that too much because the paste is meant to help transfer heat between the chip and heatsink rather than act as a coolant which many people misunderstand. A tiny bit just slightly larger than a grain of rice is fine. Apply in the center and just trust you did it right. No need to check. Last bonus tip: after you've got windows installed, if temperatures are still relatively high due to poor thermal design or a less than perfect heatsink (saw a bit was squished in the video. Can't confirm if it was intentionally like that, but usually is not), use an application called throttle stop or intel-XTU to undervolt the CPU -100mV or the highest stable undervolt around there. You can drop anywhere from 5-20 degrees Celsius if done correctly which can make up for thermal deficiencies in the laptops design, poor repaste application or less than perfect heatsink. Benifts most every laptop and is a relatively safe and easy thing to do for considerably better thermal performance allowing the system to run at its best and avoid throttling down. Cheers. Looking forward to more laptop fixed in the future! You did great!
Excellent restoration, not a single mistake. An old laptop benefits greatly from upgrading the hard drive to an inexpensive SSD. Also, the biggest issue people have after replacing the screen is non-working brightness controls. Worth checking the functionality.
@@8bitbubsy Not to mention no easy way to blow it out in recent designs. My old laptops had a simple door you'd open and the whole fan would pop out. Now you have to fully disassemble everything down to taking the heatsink off just to blow some freaking dust out. That's like you need to remove the engine of your car to wash it properly. Ridiculous.
@@anonamatron Yeah... I usuallly disassemble the laptop and remove the fan and blow it out, then I blow out the heatsink while I'm there. Some laptops are still pretty easy to maintain, but others are just hopeless these days.
My old dell kept shutting down randomly. Worked out was overheating. Changed thermal paste and problem was fixed. After about 4 years use becomes less effective.
I remember, when I tried taking apart a laptop. I search at Google how to do it. Now for good measure I always download the service manual for the laptop.
I have 2 from the Toshiba C6xx series. They work within their limits. Basic fairly well designed and as you have illustrated are quite repairable. IME you might want more RAM for W10 but Linux will Just Work on everything and depending on the CPU will run faster and most things will work better (internet things like streaming TH-cam). BTW my first one of these dates from 2011(8 and a half years as of this post) for which I paid 250 USD and consider the payback to be complete. My second one is a newer model with a slightly faster CPU that I purchased for 55 USD a year ago. Well done, mate. Keep on keepin' on and be well.
Great job done there. One very important minder is the battery was under a recall due to overheating issues from Toshiba so be careful and don't leave leave it plugged in and unattended - I know of this cause I have a old Toshiba C650D model and as the battery aged from 2010 back when I purchased the laptop I noticed after 5 years the battery stated to get very hot when charging so Be mindful of that...
The thermal paste is perfectly usable, I would suggest you mix it after applying, sometimes the silicone grease that prevents the paste from solidifying while in storage separates, it's not a common occurrence but it does happen, it doesn't affect thermals.
Nice work mate, I suggest you to put a piece of foam or something in the empty area of the hard drive slot just to protect it from accidentally coming off, Cheers
Hey vince, I've been using this cheap thermal paste from ebay, and it works really well. from what I've seen, you can get near identical performance of MX-4, and it's dirt cheap! If you want to give it a try, it's called GD900. Also, just a suggestion, but to really speed up that old machine and breathe new life into it, use an SSD instead of a hard drive. Trust me, once you use a PC with a Solid State Drive, you'll never go back to using a mechanical Hard Drive. :)
@My Mate VINCE You should have a look at Thermal Grizzly, I have completely replaced Arctis and MX-4 with Aeronaut or Hydronaut. Also in my opinion all mechanical drives in laptops should be replaced with an ssd, they are the same size and they dont slow down and fail every few years, $30 US dollars for a 250 gig ssd, $60 for a 500.
Oh yes, a friend of my grandparents got a new laptop around 2 years ago, Acer Aspire ES1, it's ok for her with i3-6006U and 1080p Screen, but Windows 10 is SLOW LIKE HELL because of the HDD, maybe just 4 Gigs of RAM are also braking, but in Task Manager the Hard Drive use is 100% permanently. I should visit her again, already got a 4GB Stick of RAM since December here and a SSD... Thermal Grizzly is good, I use Kryonaut, it's not so comfortable to handle, but because it's rather dry, it won't dry out so soon. Conductonaut (Liquid Metal) is also great for older Laptops, it probably won't lower the maximum temperatures significantly, but the fan may spin up later and less often also maybe with lower rpm, so you get less noise, but careful, you should apply a barrier of nail polish around the Die and just a tiny ball of liquid metal.
I have first hand experience with the major difference between a HDD and SSD. When you load Windows 10 on an HDD you will notice most of your bottle necking on disk access as it is quite often pinned between 99% and 100% use according to task manager. Once I installed a SSD the computer felt snappier and windows responded much better as the usage according to resource monitor and task manager was no longer pinned and under 10% at idle on a fresh restart
Windows installation is one of the easiest now days Vince. Back on 98 /me and server it was a pain in the back side. But it's generally self explanatory. Laptop and pc repairs is what I spend almost all of my time doing among other things. I'm at the start of this video so looking forward to following your little journey hope it goes well . Also hope you and the family are keeping safe mate
Hiya mate I am a qualified city and guilds Techy and honestly you did alright for your first time doing it, only issue is that you did not wear a ant-static bracket. Which means the static electricity on you can jump onto the components and kill them, so you need to make sure the surface your working on is earthed as well as yourself.
I was doing this the other day, managed to reduce costs by buying two scrap laptops and exchanging parts, so much cheaper than buying the parts individually!
2 old toilet rolls :) :) :) :) Nice, this made my day!!!!!! Love all your videos. Keep us entertained, especially now we just sit home each day, cannot go anywhere!!!!
I've done 3 Toshiba Satelllite C50 laptops for my own use, 1 as old as that with the removable battery and 2 later ones with the battery held in by 2 screws you invalidated the warrenty if you removed them, all with intel processors. I love em, all now have 8GB ram, 500GB ssd and Intel i5 processors. They all run windows 10 home and it's hard to distinguish between them in performance. Easy to rebuild and repair for an old fool like me so have fun with it.
At last a video where I have some knoweldge to pass on. I've repaired dozens of C660. When changing a screen, you did it right by removing the main battery and charger. Even when the power is off, there is voltage running to the screen. If you try to change the screen with a power source connected, then you have a very good chance of blowing the fuse for the panel. All laptops of that era are pretty much the same inside, if you can repair one, you can repair them all, so very easy, but as with mist consoles the clips are very fragile for the ribbon cables.
These Toshiba Satellites are absolute beaters. When they were new they were all low end, cheap made, low performance machines. Usually used for schools or the workplace where they're mistreated to death. Yet they solider on ! Guess they are rather reliable seeing as how many are left even after what they deal with. If you're going to fix laptops what you really want to look into are Lenovo/IBM Thinkpads. They're super well made, lovely to work on, especially the older ones, and they have a cult following, meaning they're rather profitable to repair. :)
The only thing I never really took too was that ultra-glossy screen coating. Other than that, our old Toshiba lived through three teen daughters then she went in to my bone yard.
Just about to go to bed and saw the notification for the vid, it was rude not to watch :). Great to see a windows laptop, looking forward to the first MacBook:) great video as usual
Nice restore Vince, consider putting a cheap 120 or 240GB SSD in because it will vastly improve the speed. If you do another laptop disassembly always remember to remove the battery cable before pulling out the screen cable otherwise you will almost certainly blow something. I say that because most laptops nowadays have internal batteries and it's very easy to forget this.
There's a general rule of thumb when replacing the display of the laptops, that is the size and the connectors. If you don't have the same size or connector. Then it will not fit (work for not having the right pin connector). And I did have my fair share of things with fixing scrap laptops. I have an HP HDX 16-1140US laptop that had thermal paste encrusted around the die shield. Which it actually overheats every time I have tried to use it for a while. Fixed it by repasting (and making sure that the fan wire is connected to the motherboard). Still missing the back shielding (or something like it). And Dell Latitude with i7 620m. Both worked perfectly fine, but the Dell is missing an R key. I had tried to get a replacement for it, but I had the wrong one.
Thats is expired thermal paste. It happens when the paste isnt stored in a good environment. Thermal paste does go bad by being dry or solvent seperates from the material, not by being old.
it looks more like thermal adhesive, used for permanent connections to parts that are not meant to come off. If it is expired paste, it could be re-mixed, but you'd have to get it out of the tube.
One of those is my main computer! 6Gb RAM, 120GB SSD for the OS and a 500Gb HDD replacing the DVD for data, plus an external 23" screen, and running Linux Mint, it does everything I need, including 3D CAD. I've had it apart to clean the fan, but haven't needed to replace any parts yet.
Great fix Vince. Installing an SSD would of made some difference on that we laptop. Installed one on my 12 year old laptop a few months ago and the difference was amazing. Mick 👍🍻
SSD even makes a difference on a modern laptop. Have an Asus 510u with Intel i5 and even the optane memory cache. But it sometimes was terribly slow particularly after an update. A good 2 mins before I could actually use it most times. I got SSD. Cloned the hard drive bootup down from 2 mins to 15 seconds. Chrome down from 20 seconds until usable to 3 seconds. Asus fitted a rubbish Toshiba 1tb hard drive that runs at just 5400rpm and it was crippling it. Most laptop hard drives are pretty poor. My 11 year old desktop with SSD was quicker. It's not now though. This thing is really fast now.
I put in an SSD using an mSATA 500GB SSD and mSATA to IDE adapter in my ThinkPad R40 and runs faster than it did before with the failing 20GB HDD (also cloned the 20GB to a working 40GB drive prior to cloning to the 500GB SSD). Might do the same with other systems for my 486 systems and early Pentium systems. However, TRIM isn't supported in earlier Windows and requires 3rd party software to TRIM the SSD.
I've never seen a thermal paste like that, clear gel liquid. Mine is dark gray and very viscous. You can get fakes from Amazon, especially if it's sold by a third party.
@@astevens59 No they don't, or I thought they didn't, but if they did, then I'm surprised, especially when the DVD design in that video looks like a crappy Photoshop job
You did it 100% right. That mx4 was not good you right about that. The HDD you can stick with dubbel tape. Also change the bios bat also. And change the thermal pad. For the first time really good Job.
really don't want to point this out your channel is very good like your the way you do things learn alot at 20:18 forgot the little plug above tape see you screwed down the keyboard
With the thermal paste vince, I always squeeze the first bit out, into some kitchen roll. It often goes like that, at the nozzle end, if left for a while.
15:49 Hi friend, great video. Just a quit tip, when you undo the GPU or CPU screws you should undo them in an X motion (one by one - you have numbers there, marked it down, for that reason), you should not undo one side and then the other side, you risk to break the die if the cooler is too tighten up by springs- same thing to the screwing process. That Arctic Silver doesn't look genuine to me as well.
Hu Vince, the DVD drive can be removed by taking out only one screw, the one with a little disk icon on the middle, take that screw and slide it out. If you don't use a Hard Drive caddy you should use some EVA sponge to brace the back of it so it doesn't slide off. Good job. And Windows is super easy to install. Just takes forever.
What you suggested may be MS-DOS(Microsoft disk operating system) was in fact the boot sequence of the laptop which is the visible part of the firmware of the laptop along with the setup(when you power the laptop on and it says press F2 or another key to go into setup). MS-DOS was a command line operating system on which the windows operating system sat on top off. Now after the firmware runs it boots straight into windows and MS-DOS was replaced by command prompt which is built into windows.
@@bandbgamesroom he replaced the camera connector on a waterdamaged iPhone for his daughter. I would love to see him fixing broken PC motherboards and stuff.
hey vince, its a good video and a screen replacement is a great entry job for laptops but if you are doing it again i would just say you dont need to take 99% of them apart to change the screen, you only need to remove the screen bezael (tip: tilt the screen as far back as possible to be able to release the clips at the hinges to seperate the bezel) i use to work as a laptop/phone repair tech and i still do it as a hobby when i have time, if you are interested in doing more laptop repair videos in the future i would be happy to give you a few with different faults free of charge (i still have around 50 laptops in my spare/hobby room ha)
I could be wrong but I believe that thermal paste is oil based and it looks like the oil has separated out, you probably need to kneed the tube to mix it back through.
Rule of thumb for laptops, 'Top Down' usually its simple to do these with easy to remove bezel and keyboard and your in like flyn. Dells and Lenovos's makes this swap out easy. If your screen is busted but the inverter is good ( backlight / power ) screens are dirt cheap ( LG / Philips ) and are easy to swap out.
Yes, that MX-4 is not properly mixed. Your best option is to pull the plunger out of the tube, put the cap on the tip and mix the whole tube up with a perfectly clean stainless steel tool small enough to fit within yet large enough to mix that within. The label on that tube is not one I have seen on Arctic MX-4 nor MX-5, so it may be that the tube you received isn't the genuine article.
One tip for repair of plastic body, use piece of paper and gel alike superglue. Put some glue on the inside of the plastic body, put the paper, press it well on place and put extra glue on top of the paper to fully be absorbed with glue. I have done it few times and works better that just glue.
Nice repair, The hdd would need a little stopper in front of the drive any hard bump would dislodge hdd from the sata connector, The white and black wires are for wifi not bluetooth.
I like how easy to access everything is like memory and hard drive. I recently updated my modern Asus from hard drive to SSD and had to take entire bottom off just to get to hard drive. It would be same for battery or ram. Once in it's still easy to upgrade but would be nice to have the separate bits and removable battery like my previous laptops. You scratch it a bit removing all the clips otherwise.
Just a few tips: You should always tighten all the hinge screws (both on the screen side and mainboard side) as they tend to get loose over the years. Also when it comes to thermal paste, less is more. You had way too much, which _can_ have a negative effect on the cooling.
I would like to see you do more laptops and desktop stuff is a good change because i do love your console repairs but you have done alot of them now soo still keep at it but maybe change things up a bit do laptops desktops.
Hi Vince -you can usually find service manuals for most laptops on manufacturers sites and these will normally have a suggested disassembly order.I have an Acer Travelmate 290 and a faulty USB socket managed to blow the motherboard when the plastic divider broke and shorted. I found a motherboard on eBay and managed to change it with the help of the manual. Maybe try this route if you ever do any more laptops :-)
Nice fix :) I had once a Toshiba Satellite L300D laptop with Windows Vista in it and after few years, it got accidentally damaged, screen cracked, hard disk was destroyed and even the case & keyboard was bent. Initially it tried to start but later stopped responding to anything, so decided not to repair it. Out of interest, I did open the LCD panel, just to see what kind of device it is, as I had never before opened one, also, what kind of job it would be to replace it. Eventually I just recycled it but perhaps it would've been wiser to sell it for spare parts instead. Still have the broken hard disk and 2gb ddr2 ram card from it.
Remove the bezel and that gives you instant access to the LCD. The wifi, webcam and LCD cables can stay in place. Disconnect the multipin (usually 40 pins) plug and remove the screen. I've done so many now i've lost count....
I saw on the news that a Watford surgery became a critical point of emergency, was talking to my uncle who reassured me he uses the central surgery not the Bridgewater one in the news.
You need an SSD not a spinning disk. the Webcam and Screen are on the same cable. the cable is called a LVDS cable. the WIFI and Bluetooth are in one module on newer laptops. the startup you mention is also called the BIOS which you need to set boot priority to either DVD Drive or USB. Dont forget to run Memtest86 for 24 hours to test RAM.
Hi Vince, dont know if you'd be interested, but I've got a Sony X700 UHD Blu-Ray player and an Xbox One S 1TB that don't work, the bluray is dead and the xbox won't start games, but does boot and plays 4k blurays. I am just going to take them to the tip if you aren't bothered as I can't be bothered to fix them and have replaced both. (Replaced the Xbox with an Xbox One X and it's junk too, not having much luck with Xboxes) Just thought they might make interesting videos. Loving the content anyway, keep up the good work while we're all locked away in our houses (and sheds).
Hey Vince, if you are ever going to try to fix a Macbook, look for a faulty no power 12" Macbook from 2015-2017. They go around fairly cheap(for a newer mac) on ebay and often only need a power distribution chip replaced (U4700). That's a 5£ fix.. So you could make good profit from them because of the brand :) also Louis Rossmanns videos can teach you how to do it. Greetings from Germany
Id run a inquiry on the battery to see if it was part of the recall as Toshiba did have a issue with the battery overheating, if not don't let it charge unattended.
I bet if you so desired you could upgrade the ram and switch to an ssd and get a lot of speed and more life from that laptop but if you are happy with it then that great but could be a nice simple upgrade to see big performance changes keep up with the great content love watching
My sister bought a new laptop and gave me her old one which looks identical to this. It was only January this year and it had Windows 7 installed. I thought I would try Windows 10 and it activated fine. It seems ok to use, would be faster with a SSD. The main problem is there is no HDMI, I'm surprised at that seeing as I have an older Compaq Celeron that does have one and that laptop struggles with even 720p video. I've not decided what to do with the Toshiba yet. Looking at your motherboard it appears to have a separate GPU, I don't know if mine does, I'll check sometime. Also looks like the CPU is socketed which is rare nowadays in normal laptops.
Above the Keyboard has 4 screws m8s under the long thin plastic .when lifting cable makesure youre carefull with the mouse ribon conector the plastic cracks very easly i have had a thew isuse with this i usaly put abit of scotch tape when reconnecting ribon .the Toshiba laptop is prone for fan isuse when battery goes bellow 20 percent it disables the fan iv had to sort this neny times by just unconecting the fan then replace it back in .i do this because it says the fans not disabled when realy it is .i have also fitted a tv screen into that same laptop lol worked a treat .
You got lucky with that laptop some of them are beasts to open including the screens. You'd enjoy a laptop that doesn't power on then looking for the short. Weird I could still hear your voice then and find my six year old watching your robo vac repair...again.
. Most of the time with a cracked laptop case I won't bother 2 fix it because most of the time the plastic of the screen hinch are proken! But good fix! Next time use an cheap ssd, the laptop wil be twice as fast! Again good fix, have fun with the laptop
Vince, for the extra money it would have been worth sticking a 120GB SSD in the laptop, they are so much faster than conventional hard drives. Also, that thermal paste just needs a good shake and then you'll be good to go!
I know you don't want to put money into it but I think upgrading the ram and giving it an SSD over and HDD would make it leaps and bounds faster. One of THE best things to upgrade in older machines is the SSD and upgrading the ram to say 8GB (2x4GB) sticks. Give someone a very very nice browsing/media machine.
I know it's kinda late but.... consider burning a dvd/using an usb pendrive to run some linux distro live, so you can diagnose problems even without an hard drive. There are lots of distros that can boot from usb directly, such as Linux Mint.
There is an interesting thermal paste available on Ali Express called GD900. It's totally unassuming, cheap as chips even in a 30g tube, but also really good. Tech Yes City did an interesting comparison of several models, including this.
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Fixing a laptop is one of the most satisfying projects to complete! There are so many different sorts of items that can be replaced and repaired, it turns into like ten projects into one and when everything comes together including a decent upgrade; new life arises from the dead...
I agree, especially if you can get your hands on a lot of broken ones. I just recently started upgrading the CPU in working laptops using broken ones. It's really fun turning them into a Hackintosh as well. Lol
Ugh. Please don't misunderstand me: I'm not trying to tell you that your opinion is wrong. Everyone is different, and that is what makes the world interesting. But for me (15 year long relationship with building and fixing desktop PC's) I found working on laptops to be much less fun. Each to his\her own.
These old Toshiba satellite laptops really are one of the most serviceable machines out there. Good to see another one repaired so it can live on.
I know you always say, don't follow what you do, but you gave me enough info, and the courage to try, so last year the wife and I go dumpster diving, at the end of the college school year, and found so many good things, one was a fully working ps3 first Gen, with the flip up front part, added that to my ps collection, but the best dive was this Toshiba laptop, it is only a few months old at the time, about 1 year old now, and I couldn't get it to work, I took the knowledge you shared, and made a power cord for it, which got it to at least turn on so I could figure out what was wrong with it, I fiddled around with it, replaced a few things, and got it to work, and it's the one you can flip backwards and it becomes a tablet, a 17" tablet, I was so happy, and cause it's a foldable tablet model it also has touch screen, I have since given it to my wife, cause I use her new laptop for my electronic drums to run software on it, but want to thank you for giving me a direction to go to finally fix a truly nice laptop, thanks buddy.
You struck gold with the toilet roll. I found an old bottle of hand sanitizer i a week ago, I bought it about 6 months ago. 11 yr old saw that I left it in my car.. "dont leave valuables in the car he warned me" 😂
I've never seen thermal paste like that. That's definitely not how MX-4 should look.
Yeah it's old... It may come in a new tube, but it's old paste.
What I would do is squeeze it all out, mix it up, and reload it in the tube.
@@knighthawk86855 your right it needs a good mixing because its old stock most people would buy the small tubes i would be trying to pull the plunger out and mix it in the tube with a bit of thin rod/skewer
Yeah old paste. The silicon base and thermal particulates has separated. Needs a good remixing.
@@captain_sp33dy MX-4 is a very good paste, obviously something not right with that one.
Ive seen many thermal pastes that look runny to start on first use, but usually a few squirts and its normal again.
As someone who has done this at least a thousand times, I was wincing whenever he starting pulling on things or saying, "I wonder what this does."
Same here, I would have upgraded the ram and put an SSD in it, then sold it after the repairs.
Haha same here man!
@@ariahjade34 that Toshiba isn't worth wasting an SSD on. That board probably won't last much longer. I'm actually surprised it's still running.
How smol is the trackpad 😂
Yep, I was dying inside.
imo for laptops get a cheap 120gb-256gb ssd. makes a hell of a difference in performance.
Yup if only Is for browser web put a ssd Is a great upgrade, apart for that you can upgrade the cpu, sometin like i5 or i7, and up you ram to 8gb ddr or 16gb, for cheap
@@lutboy2909 I did that to a 2009 Toshiba satellite and it was so much quicker
Both of HP HDX 16 and Dell Latitude have SSDs (Which I had fixed and updated).
Most modern laptops use a NGFF wifi/bluetooth card that has two antennas- one of them is just for wifi and the other is shared between wifi and bluetooth. They use two antennas so they can use a technique called spatial multiplexing, where they can send different data on the exact same frequency at the exact same time, and get higher throughput. This is called MIMO, which means Multiple In, Multiple Out.
Hi Vince, your videos are never boring, and i can never wait for the next one.
Please release your videos, and make videos of the other laptops.
Toshibas are generally easy to work on. In fact, you probably noticed for screen replacement it wasn't even necessary to take apart the top from bottom. That MX-4 is NOT normal, it should NOT look like that watery consistency. I've worked on laptops for a long time, it was a bit surprisingly and enjoyable to see a first-timer (more or less, and being you) get on with it. Great as always
Proud of you mate. Should do more laptops.
For future reference:
- be very careful with heatsinks, a bend or kink in the copper pipes can severely limit cooling capability
- MX4 shouldn't be so watery. Something was certainly off. You were spot on about that
- When repasting, avoid lifting up the heatsink and putting it back down as you introduce air bubbles which is undesired. You want a thin even application rather that too much because the paste is meant to help transfer heat between the chip and heatsink rather than act as a coolant which many people misunderstand. A tiny bit just slightly larger than a grain of rice is fine. Apply in the center and just trust you did it right. No need to check.
Last bonus tip: after you've got windows installed, if temperatures are still relatively high due to poor thermal design or a less than perfect heatsink (saw a bit was squished in the video. Can't confirm if it was intentionally like that, but usually is not), use an application called throttle stop or intel-XTU to undervolt the CPU -100mV or the highest stable undervolt around there. You can drop anywhere from 5-20 degrees Celsius if done correctly which can make up for thermal deficiencies in the laptops design, poor repaste application or less than perfect heatsink. Benifts most every laptop and is a relatively safe and easy thing to do for considerably better thermal performance allowing the system to run at its best and avoid throttling down.
Cheers. Looking forward to more laptop fixed in the future! You did great!
Glad that laptop is now working as it should. That adds a laptop to Vince’s ever increasing list of fixes. Take care and stay safe. Danny
Cheers Danny, you too my friend :-)
Excellent restoration, not a single mistake. An old laptop benefits greatly from upgrading the hard drive to an inexpensive SSD. Also, the biggest issue people have after replacing the screen is non-working brightness controls. Worth checking the functionality.
I've always suspected old laptops throttle the cpu because the paste has dried out
Not to mention concentrated dust blocking the heatsink....
@@8bitbubsy Not to mention no easy way to blow it out in recent designs. My old laptops had a simple door you'd open and the whole fan would pop out. Now you have to fully disassemble everything down to taking the heatsink off just to blow some freaking dust out. That's like you need to remove the engine of your car to wash it properly. Ridiculous.
@@anonamatron Yeah... I usuallly disassemble the laptop and remove the fan and blow it out, then I blow out the heatsink while I'm there. Some laptops are still pretty easy to maintain, but others are just hopeless these days.
Toshiba's are problematic. They throttle by design. I use ThrottleStop program to bypass that.
My old dell kept shutting down randomly. Worked out was overheating. Changed thermal paste and problem was fixed. After about 4 years use becomes less effective.
When I first took a laptop apart (about 15 years ago) the hidden screws under the keyboard also had me stumped for awhile.
I remember, when I tried taking apart a laptop. I search at Google how to do it. Now for good measure I always download the service manual for the laptop.
I have 2 from the Toshiba C6xx series. They work within their limits. Basic fairly well designed and as you have illustrated are quite repairable. IME you might want more RAM for W10 but Linux will Just Work on everything and depending on the CPU will run faster and most things will work better (internet things like streaming TH-cam). BTW my first one of these dates from 2011(8 and a half years as of this post) for which I paid 250 USD and consider the payback to be complete. My second one is a newer model with a slightly faster CPU that I purchased for 55 USD a year ago.
Well done, mate. Keep on keepin' on and be well.
I had a good laugh when you found the 2 toilet rolls - excellent ;-) Nice to see that laptop came back to life ...
That’s his old laptop from other videos
@@iainadams9726 no it’s not!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great job done there. One very important minder is the battery was under a recall due to overheating issues from Toshiba so be careful and don't leave leave it plugged in and unattended - I know of this cause I have a old Toshiba C650D model and as the battery aged from 2010 back when I purchased the laptop I noticed after 5 years the battery stated to get very hot when charging so Be mindful of that...
The thermal paste is perfectly usable, I would suggest you mix it after applying, sometimes the silicone grease that prevents the paste from solidifying while in storage separates, it's not a common occurrence but it does happen, it doesn't affect thermals.
Sometimes when it happens i mix it with toothpick right on the die or on place i applying it.
Nice work mate, I suggest you to put a piece of foam or something
in the empty area of the hard drive slot just to protect it from accidentally coming off,
Cheers
If I remember on the C660, there is a piece of plastic on the underside of the hard drive cover that keeps the drive pushed into the slot.
@@Christopher_T_Paul good to know :)
Nice fix Vince, loved the toilet roll joke. Great stuff. Love these Toshiba’s, very reliable.
Hey vince, I've been using this cheap thermal paste from ebay, and it works really well. from what I've seen, you can get near identical performance of MX-4, and it's dirt cheap! If you want to give it a try, it's called GD900. Also, just a suggestion, but to really speed up that old machine and breathe new life into it, use an SSD instead of a hard drive. Trust me, once you use a PC with a Solid State Drive, you'll never go back to using a mechanical Hard Drive. :)
@My Mate VINCE You should have a look at Thermal Grizzly, I have completely replaced Arctis and MX-4 with Aeronaut or Hydronaut. Also in my opinion all mechanical drives in laptops should be replaced with an ssd, they are the same size and they dont slow down and fail every few years, $30 US dollars for a 250 gig ssd, $60 for a 500.
Oh yes, a friend of my grandparents got a new laptop around 2 years ago, Acer Aspire ES1, it's ok for her with i3-6006U and 1080p Screen, but Windows 10 is SLOW LIKE HELL because of the HDD, maybe just 4 Gigs of RAM are also braking, but in Task Manager the Hard Drive use is 100% permanently.
I should visit her again, already got a 4GB Stick of RAM since December here and a SSD...
Thermal Grizzly is good, I use Kryonaut, it's not so comfortable to handle, but because it's rather dry, it won't dry out so soon.
Conductonaut (Liquid Metal) is also great for older Laptops, it probably won't lower the maximum temperatures significantly, but the fan may spin up later and less often also maybe with lower rpm, so you get less noise, but careful, you should apply a barrier of nail polish around the Die and just a tiny ball of liquid metal.
I have first hand experience with the major difference between a HDD and SSD. When you load Windows 10 on an HDD you will notice most of your bottle necking on disk access as it is quite often pinned between 99% and 100% use according to task manager. Once I installed a SSD the computer felt snappier and windows responded much better as the usage according to resource monitor and task manager was no longer pinned and under 10% at idle on a fresh restart
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Windows installation is one of the easiest now days Vince. Back on 98 /me and server it was a pain in the back side. But it's generally self explanatory. Laptop and pc repairs is what I spend almost all of my time doing among other things. I'm at the start of this video so looking forward to following your little journey hope it goes well . Also hope you and the family are keeping safe mate
My Mate VINCE just here to support you and like, stay healthy mate. all the best.
my goal in life now is to see vince lurking around tesco looking at peoples bags for life
Handy laptop for kids or FE students who might be using phone/tablets for most other things. Great video, really enjoyed it 🙂👍🏻
Hiya mate I am a qualified city and guilds Techy and honestly you did alright for your first time doing it, only issue is that you did not wear a ant-static bracket. Which means the static electricity on you can jump onto the components and kill them, so you need to make sure the surface your working on is earthed as well as yourself.
I miss the classical music, it made your videos so unique. Please bring it back. :)
I was doing this the other day, managed to reduce costs by buying two scrap laptops and exchanging parts, so much cheaper than buying the parts individually!
2 old toilet rolls :) :) :) :) Nice, this made my day!!!!!! Love all your videos. Keep us entertained, especially now we just sit home each day, cannot go anywhere!!!!
I've done 3 Toshiba Satelllite C50 laptops for my own use, 1 as old as that with the removable battery and 2 later ones with the battery held in by 2 screws you invalidated the warrenty if you removed them, all with intel processors. I love em, all now have 8GB ram, 500GB ssd and Intel i5 processors. They all run windows 10 home and it's hard to distinguish between them in performance. Easy to rebuild and repair for an old fool like me so have fun with it.
At last a video where I have some knoweldge to pass on. I've repaired dozens of C660.
When changing a screen, you did it right by removing the main battery and charger. Even when the power is off, there is voltage running to the screen. If you try to change the screen with a power source connected, then you have a very good chance of blowing the fuse for the panel.
All laptops of that era are pretty much the same inside, if you can repair one, you can repair them all, so very easy, but as with mist consoles the clips are very fragile for the ribbon cables.
These Toshiba Satellites are absolute beaters.
When they were new they were all low end, cheap made, low performance machines. Usually used for schools or the workplace where they're mistreated to death.
Yet they solider on ! Guess they are rather reliable seeing as how many are left even after what they deal with.
If you're going to fix laptops what you really want to look into are Lenovo/IBM Thinkpads.
They're super well made, lovely to work on, especially the older ones, and they have a cult following, meaning they're rather profitable to repair. :)
The only thing I never really took too was that ultra-glossy screen coating. Other than that, our old Toshiba lived through three teen daughters then she went in to my bone yard.
Just about to go to bed and saw the notification for the vid, it was rude not to watch :). Great to see a windows laptop, looking forward to the first MacBook:) great video as usual
I remember my first screen replacement way easier than I thought. Nice video Mate thank you.
Nice restore Vince, consider putting a cheap 120 or 240GB SSD in because it will vastly improve the speed. If you do another laptop disassembly always remember to remove the battery cable before pulling out the screen cable otherwise you will almost certainly blow something. I say that because most laptops nowadays have internal batteries and it's very easy to forget this.
There's a general rule of thumb when replacing the display of the laptops, that is the size and the connectors. If you don't have the same size or connector. Then it will not fit (work for not having the right pin connector). And I did have my fair share of things with fixing scrap laptops. I have an HP HDX 16-1140US laptop that had thermal paste encrusted around the die shield. Which it actually overheats every time I have tried to use it for a while. Fixed it by repasting (and making sure that the fan wire is connected to the motherboard). Still missing the back shielding (or something like it). And Dell Latitude with i7 620m. Both worked perfectly fine, but the Dell is missing an R key. I had tried to get a replacement for it, but I had the wrong one.
Easier way: Just Google the model of the laptop with screen replacement. I have done that many times and got the exact screen required.
@@HuntersMoon78 That is true. But with some models, the original replacement isn't available.
the master of tech at work, nice
Thats is expired thermal paste. It happens when the paste isnt stored in a good environment. Thermal paste does go bad by being dry or solvent seperates from the material, not by being old.
it looks more like thermal adhesive, used for permanent connections to parts that are not meant to come off. If it is expired paste, it could be re-mixed, but you'd have to get it out of the tube.
@@kruleworld i had thermal paste that separated and it wasnt thermal adhesive. I had to throw it away and buy another tube
One of those is my main computer! 6Gb RAM, 120GB SSD for the OS and a 500Gb HDD replacing the DVD for data, plus an external 23" screen, and running Linux Mint, it does everything I need, including 3D CAD. I've had it apart to clean the fan, but haven't needed to replace any parts yet.
Another good Job Vince, Stay safe and hope you all stay well.
Well done Vince. That's an amazing job that you did. Keep up the good work.
Great fix Vince. Installing an SSD would of made some difference on that we laptop. Installed one on my 12 year old laptop a few months ago and the difference was amazing. Mick 👍🍻
Thanks Mick, I was pricing them up in CEX yesterday. I am very tempted, thanks for confirming what others have also mentioned :-)
SSD even makes a difference on a modern laptop. Have an Asus 510u with Intel i5 and even the optane memory cache. But it sometimes was terribly slow particularly after an update. A good 2 mins before I could actually use it most times. I got SSD. Cloned the hard drive bootup down from 2 mins to 15 seconds. Chrome down from 20 seconds until usable to 3 seconds. Asus fitted a rubbish Toshiba 1tb hard drive that runs at just 5400rpm and it was crippling it. Most laptop hard drives are pretty poor. My 11 year old desktop with SSD was quicker. It's not now though. This thing is really fast now.
@@Mymatevince 25 quid 120 gb on Ebuyer vince
I put in an SSD using an mSATA 500GB SSD and mSATA to IDE adapter in my ThinkPad R40 and runs faster than it did before with the failing 20GB HDD (also cloned the 20GB to a working 40GB drive prior to cloning to the 500GB SSD). Might do the same with other systems for my 486 systems and early Pentium systems. However, TRIM isn't supported in earlier Windows and requires 3rd party software to TRIM the SSD.
I own two of these C660s (a 2EL and a 1D7) and I really enjoyed this video
I've never seen a thermal paste like that, clear gel liquid. Mine is dark gray and very viscous. You can get fakes from Amazon, especially if it's sold by a third party.
Never saw a windows 10 CD
Mind blown
And you never will. That's a DVD lol
@@BlueIsLeet and it's a DIY burned copy of it.
Thought that MS sells retail dvds of Windows 10?
@@astevens59 No they don't, or I thought they didn't, but if they did, then I'm surprised, especially when the DVD design in that video looks like a crappy Photoshop job
Yeah Microsoft don't sell it on cd only one usb drive
You did it 100% right. That mx4 was not good you right about that. The HDD you can stick with dubbel tape. Also change the bios bat also. And change the thermal pad. For the first time really good Job.
really don't want to point this out your channel is very good like your the way you do things learn alot at 20:18 forgot the little plug above tape see you screwed down the keyboard
Vince! Click on the battery icon in the task bar and then there should be a slider. Move it to “Best performance”. It’ll speed it up a lot!
With the thermal paste vince, I always squeeze the first bit out, into some kitchen roll. It often goes like that, at the nozzle end, if left for a while.
Working late again vince? Hope you and your family are keeping well during the madness, tha ks for the videos, I watch every single one.
Brilliant! Enjoyed! Very good advice at the end there too! Take care!
Thank you Chris :-)
Keeping us entertained through the madness 👍🏻🍻
15:49 Hi friend, great video.
Just a quit tip, when you undo the GPU or CPU screws you should undo them in an X motion (one by one - you have numbers there, marked it down, for that reason), you should not undo one side and then the other side, you risk to break the die if the cooler is too tighten up by springs- same thing to the screwing process.
That Arctic Silver doesn't look genuine to me as well.
Hu Vince, the DVD drive can be removed by taking out only one screw, the one with a little disk icon on the middle, take that screw and slide it out. If you don't use a Hard Drive caddy you should use some EVA sponge to brace the back of it so it doesn't slide off. Good job. And Windows is super easy to install. Just takes forever.
I have the same model and open it twice a year for maintenance ...its a very resistant model, a true tank of war.
What you suggested may be MS-DOS(Microsoft disk operating system) was in fact the boot sequence of the laptop which is the visible part of the firmware of the laptop along with the setup(when you power the laptop on and it says press F2 or another key to go into setup). MS-DOS was a command line operating system on which the windows operating system sat on top off. Now after the firmware runs it boots straight into windows and MS-DOS was replaced by command prompt which is built into windows.
Very cool u fixed something that was probably going to get threw away and u should try fixing some apple produces
@@bandbgamesroom he replaced the camera connector on a waterdamaged iPhone for his daughter. I would love to see him fixing broken PC motherboards and stuff.
Nice bread collection, some flatbreads and some nice looking farmhouse there, yum!
hey vince, its a good video and a screen replacement is a great entry job for laptops but if you are doing it again i would just say you dont need to take 99% of them apart to change the screen, you only need to remove the screen bezael (tip: tilt the screen as far back as possible to be able to release the clips at the hinges to seperate the bezel) i use to work as a laptop/phone repair tech and i still do it as a hobby when i have time, if you are interested in doing more laptop repair videos in the future i would be happy to give you a few with different faults free of charge (i still have around 50 laptops in my spare/hobby room ha)
I could be wrong but I believe that thermal paste is oil based and it looks like the oil has separated out, you probably need to kneed the tube to mix it back through.
I fixed the same laptop about a year ago only thing I did different was put a cheap SSD in it and it's been really good ever since.
SSDs are so inexpensive nowadays theres really no reason for laptops to not be SSD only since external HDDS are cheap as well.
Another great video. Hope you and your family keep well.
Rule of thumb for laptops, 'Top Down' usually its simple to do these with easy to remove bezel and keyboard and your in like flyn. Dells and Lenovos's makes this swap out easy. If your screen is busted but the inverter is good ( backlight / power ) screens are dirt cheap ( LG / Philips ) and are easy to swap out.
Yes, that MX-4 is not properly mixed. Your best option is to pull the plunger out of the tube, put the cap on the tip and mix the whole tube up with a perfectly clean stainless steel tool small enough to fit within yet large enough to mix that within. The label on that tube is not one I have seen on Arctic MX-4 nor MX-5, so it may be that the tube you received isn't the genuine article.
One tip for repair of plastic body, use piece of paper and gel alike superglue. Put some glue on the inside of the plastic body, put the paper, press it well on place and put extra glue on top of the paper to fully be absorbed with glue. I have done it few times and works better that just glue.
Nice repair, The hdd would need a little stopper in front of the drive any hard bump would dislodge hdd from the sata connector, The white and black wires are for wifi not bluetooth.
wow nice one . finally got new type repair and keep going vince . hehe i like to see u repair pc and laptop .
Love your style. Trial and error, if it comes apart i can fix it. keep going my freind.
I like how easy to access everything is like memory and hard drive. I recently updated my modern Asus from hard drive to SSD and had to take entire bottom off just to get to hard drive. It would be same for battery or ram. Once in it's still easy to upgrade but would be nice to have the separate bits and removable battery like my previous laptops. You scratch it a bit removing all the clips otherwise.
Just a few tips: You should always tighten all the hinge screws (both on the screen side and mainboard side) as they tend to get loose over the years. Also when it comes to thermal paste, less is more. You had way too much, which _can_ have a negative effect on the cooling.
No, too much is better than NONE
@@ComeOnComputers Of course, but sometimes you can get a slight improvement by not going overboard with the thermal paste.
Love your videos, Vince
I would like to see you do more laptops and desktop stuff is a good change because i do love your console repairs but you have done alot of them now soo still keep at it but maybe change things up a bit do laptops desktops.
Hi Vince -you can usually find service manuals for most laptops on manufacturers sites and these will normally have a suggested disassembly order.I have an Acer Travelmate 290 and a faulty USB socket managed to blow the motherboard when the plastic divider broke and shorted. I found a motherboard on eBay and managed to change it with the help of the manual. Maybe try this route if you ever do any more laptops :-)
Another job well done, Vince. :)
Nice fix :)
I had once a Toshiba Satellite L300D laptop with Windows Vista in it and after few years, it got accidentally damaged, screen cracked, hard disk was destroyed and even the case & keyboard was bent. Initially it tried to start but later stopped responding to anything, so decided not to repair it.
Out of interest, I did open the LCD panel, just to see what kind of device it is, as I had never before opened one, also, what kind of job it would be to replace it. Eventually I just recycled it but perhaps it would've been wiser to sell it for spare parts instead. Still have the broken hard disk and 2gb ddr2 ram card from it.
Remove the bezel and that gives you instant access to the LCD. The wifi, webcam and LCD cables can stay in place. Disconnect the multipin (usually 40 pins) plug and remove the screen. I've done so many now i've lost count....
Dont forget the experience of repairing, even with breaking even thats worth something! 🙂
I saw on the news that a Watford surgery became a critical point of emergency, was talking to my uncle who reassured me he uses the central surgery not the Bridgewater one in the news.
You need an SSD not a spinning disk. the Webcam and Screen are on the same cable. the cable is called a LVDS cable. the WIFI and Bluetooth are in one module on newer laptops. the startup you mention is also called the BIOS which you need to set boot priority to either DVD Drive or USB. Dont forget to run Memtest86 for 24 hours to test RAM.
you finely did a laptop vid and I love you
Hi Vince, dont know if you'd be interested, but I've got a Sony X700 UHD Blu-Ray player and an Xbox One S 1TB that don't work, the bluray is dead and the xbox won't start games, but does boot and plays 4k blurays. I am just going to take them to the tip if you aren't bothered as I can't be bothered to fix them and have replaced both. (Replaced the Xbox with an Xbox One X and it's junk too, not having much luck with Xboxes)
Just thought they might make interesting videos.
Loving the content anyway, keep up the good work while we're all locked away in our houses (and sheds).
Hey Vince, if you are ever going to try to fix a Macbook, look for a faulty no power 12" Macbook from 2015-2017. They go around fairly cheap(for a newer mac) on ebay and often only need a power distribution chip replaced (U4700). That's a 5£ fix.. So you could make good profit from them because of the brand :) also Louis Rossmanns videos can teach you how to do it.
Greetings from Germany
Id run a inquiry on the battery to see if it was part of the recall as Toshiba did have a issue with the battery overheating, if not don't let it charge unattended.
i recommend you to watch
Electronics repair school this guy is amazing when it comes to repair things cheap
that channel is really good for learning new things.
We need vince to try to fix the country
I bet if you so desired you could upgrade the ram and switch to an ssd and get a lot of speed and more life from that laptop but if you are happy with it then that great but could be a nice simple upgrade to see big performance changes keep up with the great content love watching
Great vid as always, keep it up and stay safe!!
My sister bought a new laptop and gave me her old one which looks identical to this. It was only January this year and it had Windows 7 installed. I thought I would try Windows 10 and it activated fine. It seems ok to use, would be faster with a SSD. The main problem is there is no HDMI, I'm surprised at that seeing as I have an older Compaq Celeron that does have one and that laptop struggles with even 720p video. I've not decided what to do with the Toshiba yet. Looking at your motherboard it appears to have a separate GPU, I don't know if mine does, I'll check sometime. Also looks like the CPU is socketed which is rare nowadays in normal laptops.
Above the Keyboard has 4 screws m8s under the long thin plastic .when lifting cable makesure youre carefull with the mouse ribon conector the plastic cracks very easly i have had a thew isuse with this i usaly put abit of scotch tape when reconnecting ribon .the Toshiba laptop is prone for fan isuse when battery goes bellow 20 percent it disables the fan iv had to sort this neny times by just unconecting the fan then replace it back in .i do this because it says the fans not disabled when realy it is .i have also fitted a tv screen into that same laptop lol worked a treat .
omg I didn't get notification, thank You for new video !
You got lucky with that laptop some of them are beasts to open including the screens. You'd enjoy a laptop that doesn't power on then looking for the short.
Weird I could still hear your voice then and find my six year old watching your robo vac repair...again.
. Most of the time with a cracked laptop case I won't bother 2 fix it because most of the time the plastic of the screen hinch are proken! But good fix! Next time use an cheap ssd, the laptop wil be twice as fast! Again good fix, have fun with the laptop
Vince, for the extra money it would have been worth sticking a 120GB SSD in the laptop, they are so much faster than conventional hard drives. Also, that thermal paste just needs a good shake and then you'll be good to go!
I know you don't want to put money into it but I think upgrading the ram and giving it an SSD over and HDD would make it leaps and bounds faster. One of THE best things to upgrade in older machines is the SSD and upgrading the ram to say 8GB (2x4GB) sticks. Give someone a very very nice browsing/media machine.
I know it's kinda late but.... consider burning a dvd/using an usb pendrive to run some linux distro live, so you can diagnose problems even without an hard drive.
There are lots of distros that can boot from usb directly, such as Linux Mint.
There is an interesting thermal paste available on Ali Express called GD900. It's totally unassuming, cheap as chips even in a 30g tube, but also really good. Tech Yes City did an interesting comparison of several models, including this.
I fancy the bag the laptop came in a lot.
He is now Linus Tech Tips worthy