The certificate approval normally relates to the time and date being in the past. Usually happens when the internal battery for the clock is either low or is dead. You can usually fix this by setting up the date and time.
Not necessarily, the internal battery is different than time, and date, because the internal battery is the battery for the actual system. For the time, and date, it's a chip on the motherboard, lot of the chips would say Dallas on them. When that chip goes out, setting the time, and date ain't going to work. The time, and date won't keep it's time, doesn't matter if you set it or not, if the chip is dead. it doesn't work like that.
@@josedasilva8924 No I'm not just thinking of a desktop, if it's a type of computer, it has a motherboard. I know what that battery is. The point is, it's not just that coin battery, that does the time, the main function of the CMOS battery is to save the bios settings, and there is a process to do by taking out the battery if you want to reset the bios. Like yes it's the battery, but that's not the main unit, it's the chip, and that specific chip's main function is to save the time, and date, not just the CMOS battery. The CMOS battery is really just known as a backup battery for the bios. So you see, the battery, and that timer chip eventually goes out after a period of time, and when the battery, and chip is weak, resetting the time would keep that time for a bit but eventually go out again, and if they are completely dead, and just resetting the time, and date isn't going to help anything, there ain't much you can do but replace it. Believe me, I know, I ran computers for quite a few years, and I self taught myself from experience.
@@realvivifromloona No I'm not just thinking of a desktop, if it's a type of computer, it has a motherboard. I know what that battery is. The point is, it's not just that coin battery, that does the time, the main function of the CMOS battery is to save the bios settings, and there is a process to do by taking out the battery if you want to reset the bios. Like yes it's the battery, but that's not the main unit, it's the chip, and that specific chip's main function is to save the time, and date, not just the CMOS battery. The CMOS battery is really just known as a backup battery for the bios. So you see, the battery, and that timer chip eventually goes out after a period of time, and when the battery, and chip is weak, resetting the time would keep that time for a bit but eventually go out again, and if they are completely dead, and just resetting the time, and date isn't going to help anything, there ain't much you can do but replace it. Believe me, I know, I ran computers for quite a few years, and I self taught myself from experience.
Vince can you check the system date and time ... if this has been lost then browsers may well complain about certificates. That.said I wouldn’t recommend going on the internet with XP
That's a good point, time and date needs to be correct too! But on XP a lot of the certs no longer work because the root certs were renewed a few years ago (probably more than a few years ago lol) - supporting stronger ciphers and hashes etc.
I would suggest to install retrozilla for the modern protocols. But for heavens sake, only go on sites you know with that XP daanger. Every thing else should be done inside a VM or on a live CD.
@@utzufideli9769 Wow people are way to scared of going online with XP, my school used XP until 2017, no issue. I use Windows XP online everyday, no issue. Ya'll don't have a gun to your head forcing you to enter banking info into Internet Explorer 6. Use common sense and XP online is as dangerous as Windows 10 online.
@@utzufideli9769 theres a couple of palemoon forks which still have xp support, basilisk and mypal and can handle the modern web fine and are relatively secure. Also xp with all the posready updates didn't lose support until mid 2019 so it's probably not too bad to have the machine online.
I had a T42 maxxed out at 2GB of RAM and I installed Windows 7 on it and it ran great! Your CCFL backlight tube is dying - that's why the screen starts out looking purple/orange. I had to replace mine. After years of faithful service, I eventually sold mine to a Thinkpad enthusiast who is a city contractor and was going to use it for his work - it may still be on the job!
Did the same to an R51 I got from a banking firm years ago when they where recycling machines. Went far enough to uprage CPU on it too. The thing runs linux now and is used as a music player on a stereo system these things are rugged as can be!
I found a cheap deal on a great condition T42p that was already pretty maxed by default, with pentium M 765 (2.1ghz), 2gb ram, and ati firegl card equivalent of radeon 9600, and 1600x1200 IPS, sweet machine for win98/win2000 dualboot retro gaming on the go, but it feels like its running rather hot, I wonder if theres anything I can do to improve the cooling on this thing? Plenty of info on how to improve the cooling on a T60, but nothing that I can find on the T42?
Generally older systems running XP will have out of date security certificates for web browsers and XP isn’t designed to work with HTML5 and up protocols for most modern browsers. As it’s built on x32 bit architecture most modern programs will suffer as more up to date hardware tends to run on x64 bit architecture. You could try say a live USB running x32 Debian and seeing if that will inject some usability into the older hardware but honestly it’s a nostalgic trip to see one of these things running in such good condition! It was a treat watching this video and fantastic work as always!
I worked from a T42 for several years! Really nice robust machines! Great job getting this working - the crazy thing, I think I have a PSU for one of those here!!! To get it working properly - just get a Windows 10 Pro license off eBay for £5 and install Windows 10. I suspect Win 10 will run fine on it. You may need to add some RAM first (not sure it will go beyond 2GB) if you wanted to do that. The problem in general with certificates - Windows update used to update all the root certificates periodcally. They have been renewed over the years and not updated in Win XP. The net result is you get that cert error with most websites. You could probably manually install the various certificates and get around some of the issues. IE likely wont support some of the latest ciphers though, so you would need to go with the last version of Firefox / Opera supported by XP.
@@joeatron3222 Windows 10 HATES classic HDDs. It really needs an SSD, at least 2 threads and 2GB ram. This has none if that. (And is also not really upgradable to SSDs - IDE SSDs are very rare) However with enough RAM windows vista and 7 run fine on those Pentium M era laptops. I personally would stick with XP or a light Linux. Just feels much snappier than that win 7. Edit: I think W10 would not even run on this. The T42 probably still has the older "banias" pentium M core which doesn't advertise PAE support to the OS. "Dothan" is needed for booting W8/10.
aitch, haitch, erbs, herbs - I watch a number of UK, AUS, youtubers, and this all of a sudden came to my attention recently. And now you bring it up. I thought about it, and I wasn't going to say anything, but you let the cat out of the bag then, didn't you. There's this, and then also resources, rezources... Even Canadians are looped into that one too. Colourful English language, various pronunciations and spellings.
Collectors ? We are cult ! Thanks for saving great old machine ... and i suggest to keep this one for yourself . You never know when you will need win xp, and serial/paralell port for some projects ... and you can make this t42 dulal boot with some light linux like Lubuntu or similar. Thanks for great content, and stay safe.
Used to use one of these laptops many moons ago, well built solid item. Little life hack for you, to get rid of sticky label residue off any surface quickly you can simply use regular household furniture polish like pledge or Mr sheen. Comes off is seconds!
For anyone wondering: The red screen backlight means that the backlight CCFL tubes are worn out. The screen is also very dim. A new tube would restore it to its original brightness which is MUCH MUCH brighter. Also... Ewww, a blue trackpoint cap on a thinkpad... blasphemy :D But otherwise nice job, I really enjoy the channel :)
The T42's are a very nice retro laptop and still usable today with the right OS plus they have one of the nicest keyboards going an innovative drainage system to stop the keyboard and main laptop getting water damage and if you press the fn and top right keys the keyboard light illuminates, on the whole a very tough and usable lapyop. Keep safe and keep up the great content.
They are good laptops. I’ve got one very similar from early 2000’s that is still going strong. I use it as a second screen to VNC to my Raspberry Pi in my observatory. There’s a really useful little light in the lid that can illuminate the keyboard! Fn + PgUp! Good one Vince!
I restored a thinkpad really nicely built and easy to repair as so many parts easily to get hold of and thinkpad's in good condition can fetch well over £100 in alot of cases
I got given an old Dell desktop a few years ago and it wasn’t til I got it that I realised it was old, like 11 years old or so, but it’s a Dell Precision workstation. I fixed a couple of issues it had put Windows 10 on it and it’s the best Windows PC I’ve ever had. It’s got dual quad-core Xeon processors, 20GB RAM and two HDDs in RAID0. It’s my main machine in my home office and it runs everything I need it to perfectly. Had it not have been through sheer luck and my soldering skills (being a design and development engineer), the machine would be in a million pieces in India or somewhere, being recycled.
Did not Mrs Vince have any nail varnish remover? That is acetone and dissolves superglue a treat but... it will also eat plastics quite quickly too if allowed to settle.
I'm thinking the black screws go into the bottom of the hard drive through the caddy and the two silver ones hold the black plastic piece by screwing into the side. Btw acetone is good at melting super glue
I had one of these for work. They are good machines for there time. I rescued another one from the bin. The screen changing colour wasn't normal. It is fairly easy to change the keyboard on these. They don't have washers in the hard disk. The facia does just clip over the screws of the drive then just secures at the bottom. The one I had at work had 1.5Gb in it as I upgraded it at the time.
The guy who sold you the laptop purposely sabotaged the H-key to make you say it and feel the need to clarify your pronunciation 😜 And as always, love the vid Vince! Keep it up ❤️
that is an awesome video your my favorite youtuber and you make amazing content. its always cool that you are able to fix a lot electronics with almost no issue. :)
this was very interesting to watch, i work a laptops, and computers alot, "screaming at my screen" hyperbole, alot, but it was great to see someone learn and figure stuff out, just like i do from your content! Awesome stuff!
Maybe you can answer this if you have time. The wireless signal shows that it is on below my display panel. I'm trying to connect it to my Android's mobile Hotspot. Under connect to a network on my thinkpad I see my phones ID and it says connecting in bold but then never connects. F5 doesn't work either. Do you have any idea what I can do? IBM customer service doesn't even know. Thanks.
Hi Vince, I have a T42 laying around and I recall the screen would have a very red tint, especially when it first comes on. If it wasn't for having to ship it, I would pass it on to you for parts.
People complaining how you pronounce "H" actually I love how you pronounce it of course I may be biased as I like and watch all your videos and have seen most of the modern ones
We still use IBM thinkpads at work. They've got 7 on them and they run just fine. I don't know how well the battery works in them because they are never unplugged
I have a T41 I use as an XP machine. Works for most video files as long as the bitrate isn't too high. It's air-gapped mostly because the Wireless is finicky but also because there isn't really much reason to use the Internet on it. Wireless-G means downloading right on it is slower than sneakernetting a downloaded file from another system via a thumb drive. If you are getting certificate errors verify the time and date are correct, I don't recall that being covered in the video.
If you want to use it on the Internet, you can download Firefox 37.02 from the Mozilla FTP repository (ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/). After you installed it, click on the question mark in the three bars menu and go to about Firefox and open it so often until there are no updates available any more (This should be at 52.9.0 ESR). There will also appear a tab in Firefox that tells, that no more updates are developed for Windows XP.
Hi Vince: Not sure if you have done this yet but I would put some heatsink compound on the CPU, the fan sounds a little noisy on startup and given the age of this I reckon it hasn't been changed.
If you got an extra harddrive, you could clone the current drive to it, and upgrade the extra drive to windows 7 to rid of your wonder :D and yes an SSD would be insane, but I think that has an IDE interface, so an expensive Media Card CF and converter (if that is even needed). Microsoft is geared toward the Microsoft Store, much like Android older phones can't do Google Play. I had one of these, so it was a nice walk in history for me. :D Good job fixing it, and neat trick with the headlight restore idea.
I used to work for an it rental company, once I had to change the keys round to the UK layout on 15 x T40s as they all had the French keyboard layout, it took ages
The pink/orange tint on the screen is indicative that the CCFL backlight tube)s) are failing. Eventually they will die altogether but if the tint disappears after a few minutes and the backlight stays on, then it'll probably be OK for a bit. Replacing the tubes IS possible but a lot of work and that's assuming you could even get hold of the spares. Replacing the whole screen is the usual fix for this but it'll probably be ok for now as it is.
On IDE's there is a "key" which you should be able to see with a torch in there and also match up the slight gap between power pins array and IDE data array of pins. Laptop ones did have a slightly canted connector to prevent jarring a connection out of its socket and keep it locked with a good cohesive connection between pins. Those pins can bend extremely easily which is why the caddy is designed to "egg box" the drive, the caddy transmits the jarring forces to the chassis.
The battery is really worn and you can fix that too, you would have to replace the 18650 cells inside which make up the battery itself. That specific battery has 6 cells, 2 in parallel and 3 in series to get a nominal 12.6 volts.
Watching you fight with that HDD was rough to watch. But I was impressed with the key switch. Most people would just replace the entire keyboard. The Nub - re/blue dot do come with different sized Squares on the bottom btw. Also, you prolly could get away running win 7. Just install the XP or 2k drivers if you have them. - I have worked with many Thinkpads in my day. They were business machines and therefore great for number crunching applications. These things outperformed my PC of the day, even tho my PC had way better stats
The T42 really isn't suited for 7 due to the age of the machine and xp runs just right, used to collect Thinkpads before moving on to higher end Dells that are more favorable for gaming and are more serviceable.
I actually surprised how fast it boots from and old mechanical IDE drive. Nowadays, if it's not an SSD, we wouldn't even bother with it. And also the fact that the battery still holds it's charge give it's age (though possibly the battery might have been replaced). Yes, it doesnt hold the charge long, but i've seen newer batteries die in minutes after a full charge. Also, what is the song that starts at the 26:00 minute mark? Seems lovely and chill.
Certs can be fixed by updating time and date, and replacing cmos battey. So the change sticks. There are browsers made specially for this problem. They spoof the browser so the we site doesn’t reject. I’m sure a quick search will bring right up. Good day!
Win7 will definitely work, and it is just about as quick as XP. I used this same laptop up until about two years ago. All the drivers with Win7 worked, too.
The reason there is an orange tinge when it first powers on is it's probably using a CFL backlight (small fluorescent tubes) which aren't instantly at full power. Modern displays use LED's which mitigates this.
I have mine nb with xp and have no issues with certs (not sure if i had this problem). Using waterfox in it (it's using older firefix core (horay legacy addons) with uptodate security updates). So i thing it could really be that cr2032, or it's just a browser settings (again, not sure if i was solving anything like this).
It's funny the things we forgot about laptops and Operating systems we haven't used in years. I'm working on fixing up my old T21 but for the life of me couldn't remember where the HDD was.
That pxe boot rom screen thing is also called network boot so the laptop in the earlier was trying to boot using files that it could have found in the network. And it also requires an ethernet cable. Also connecting a windows xp computer to the modern internet isnt a good idea as xp hasn't had an update since 2014.
Thinkpads are awesome laptops! Not as indestructible as a toughbook, but still really strong The laptop's time and date settings in the bios have likely gone, from it being powered off for so long, which is making all the sites show that certificate error
@My Mate VINCE Hi Vince, love your videos. They're very entertaining, thorough and well produced. One of these days YOU WILL BE A PROFESSIONAL and you won't need that disclaimer at the start of your videos, trust me! Are your time and date correct? Double-click on the time, set the date correctly and then go to the 'Internet time' tab and click on 'update now' to synchronise the time with the internet. It does do it correctly the majority of the time, even if it does come up with an error. You can set the time manually if this fails, but I seem to recall that Windows XP gets a bit fussy if the time isn't EXACTLY right! It would also be a good idea to update to Service Pack 3 if you're not running it already which will allow you to install the latest supported version of Google Chrome and give you a much better experience when you're surfing the web. It won't be perfect, but it will be a lot better! Right-click on 'My Computer' and left-click on 'Properties' to see what service pack you're running. Those are the main things that would be causing the problem in the browser with the out of date/invalid website certificate. Can you please make a quick revisit video on this when you can? I'd really appreciate it. Keep up the good wok! Regards, Troy PS; Windows XP Service Pack 3 can be downloaded from here, it's the first download on the list. www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Windows%20XP%20SP3 And Chrome from here; www.filepuma.com/download/google_chrome_32bit_49.0.2623.112-11045/ *MAKE SURE YOU CLICK ON THE GREEN 'Download Now' button just below the information about the software and NOT whatever ad happens to be on the website at the time! You'll have to use another computer to download both these pieces of software as what's on the laptop at the moment is too outdated to accomplish this! :-)
The PXE error is just an error stating that it cannot boot from the network. In bigger environments they usually setup a way to install machines from the network and PXE is used to boot up the machine from the network.
I have one that just flashes all led lights one time when I push the power button. I have to take the battery out and back in again to get the "Battery Charged " flashing green battery led to come back up. I have tried the old , take the battery out and press power 10x times then hold 30 secs , then tried again. There are many screws missing and i was thinking from reading the manual "make sure all components are connected well" quote and make me think that some of the screws might complete a circuit? Anyone reading this have any idea to get it to boot would be great . Thanks.
I love the T42. I have one myself, I use it to run Windows 98 on it, as it's got extremely good specs for a Win98 machine and runs everything win98 you can throw at it thanks to having native drivers. Looks like you're missing the mouse clit. Lots of people have trouble finding it :(
Lol bro as a car detailer EVEN I DON'T USE THAT MUCH POLISH ON HEADLIGHTS 😂 anyways man be careful next time cuz if you get them stuck in the gaps you're not gonna enjoy removing it 😂 Love your vids man keep up Edit: i think it can handle Windows 7 quite nicely if you add a bit more ram and a better HDD or SSD
That T42 model is a little tank and is still a pretty good laptop, especially if you run Linux on it. If you throw in an SSD like I did playing with one it's actually really fast. I used an mSATA to IDE adapter with a 128GB SSD and set a 2048MB swap partition for virtual memory to go along with it's 2GB of RAM. I didn't think it would be that good but I had everything except for the $5 adapter and figured "Why not?" Haha
At a maximum 133MBs data transfer rate, you will not get a lot of performance out of an SSD. I have had HDDs reach 150MBs, and 80MBs over USB. Technically USB 2.0 could be faster, but in reality its not. This is a difficult recommendation - though I am putting a 64GB SSD on a iMac G4 (snow globe), which is IDE - total expense? $11 for the adaptor.
That's what's really good about Linux. Linux is able to put a lot of old systems back to life. The thing is 32 bit processors systems aren't getting much support anymore, because 32 bit is just too old, and not many people are running them anymore, so there's just not many software, and operating systems supporting them anymore.
@@danilko1 that 133MB/s cap of the ATA100 bus means nothing really when it comes to running the system. The SSD is helping with low latency, simply navigating the system and with the read/write speeds of small files. The SSD is ready to pretty much instantly open folders and programs whereas a HDD can't possibly do it as fast. I guarantee that if you set up a T42 exactly as I did except with the fastest HDD you could possibly put in it, the real world use of that laptop would pale in performance next to the one with the SSD. Edit: I forgot another huge benefit of the SSD over the HDD. The SSD can access the swap partition/virtual memory much MUCH faster!
The certificate approval normally relates to the time and date being in the past. Usually happens when the internal battery for the clock is either low or is dead. You can usually fix this by setting up the date and time.
Not necessarily, the internal battery is different than time, and date, because the internal battery is the battery for the actual system. For the time, and date, it's a chip on the motherboard, lot of the chips would say Dallas on them. When that chip goes out, setting the time, and date ain't going to work. The time, and date won't keep it's time, doesn't matter if you set it or not, if the chip is dead. it doesn't work like that.
Well it can also appear when its not updated the opera and in chrome it will always appear cause xp does not receive updates for chrome since 2014
@@jonathongraves2976 your thinking of desktop motherboards. These laptops use a button cell battery.
@@josedasilva8924 No I'm not just thinking of a desktop, if it's a type of computer, it has a motherboard. I know what that battery is. The point is, it's not just that coin battery, that does the time, the main function of the CMOS battery is to save the bios settings, and there is a process to do by taking out the battery if you want to reset the bios. Like yes it's the battery, but that's not the main unit, it's the chip, and that specific chip's main function is to save the time, and date, not just the CMOS battery. The CMOS battery is really just known as a backup battery for the bios. So you see, the battery, and that timer chip eventually goes out after a period of time, and when the battery, and chip is weak, resetting the time would keep that time for a bit but eventually go out again, and if they are completely dead, and just resetting the time, and date isn't going to help anything, there ain't much you can do but replace it. Believe me, I know, I ran computers for quite a few years, and I self taught myself from experience.
@@realvivifromloona No I'm not just thinking of a desktop, if it's a type of computer, it has a motherboard. I know what that battery is. The point is, it's not just that coin battery, that does the time, the main function of the CMOS battery is to save the bios settings, and there is a process to do by taking out the battery if you want to reset the bios. Like yes it's the battery, but that's not the main unit, it's the chip, and that specific chip's main function is to save the time, and date, not just the CMOS battery. The CMOS battery is really just known as a backup battery for the bios. So you see, the battery, and that timer chip eventually goes out after a period of time, and when the battery, and chip is weak, resetting the time would keep that time for a bit but eventually go out again, and if they are completely dead, and just resetting the time, and date isn't going to help anything, there ain't much you can do but replace it. Believe me, I know, I ran computers for quite a few years, and I self taught myself from experience.
I had one of these when I worked for IBM in the late ‘90s. Built like a tank, and so reliable.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Ironically that's something my GF never says any more
Vince can you check the system date and time ... if this has been lost then browsers may well complain about certificates.
That.said I wouldn’t recommend going on the internet with XP
That's a good point, time and date needs to be correct too! But on XP a lot of the certs no longer work because the root certs were renewed a few years ago (probably more than a few years ago lol) - supporting stronger ciphers and hashes etc.
@@GadgetUK164 Exactly right not sure is XP supports sha256 most defintely not sha512 / AES or Serpent or many of the new varients.
I would suggest to install retrozilla for the modern protocols. But for heavens sake, only go on sites you know with that XP daanger. Every thing else should be done inside a VM or on a live CD.
@@utzufideli9769 Wow people are way to scared of going online with XP, my school used XP until 2017, no issue. I use Windows XP online everyday, no issue. Ya'll don't have a gun to your head forcing you to enter banking info into Internet Explorer 6. Use common sense and XP online is as dangerous as Windows 10 online.
@@utzufideli9769 theres a couple of palemoon forks which still have xp support, basilisk and mypal and can handle the modern web fine and are relatively secure. Also xp with all the posready updates didn't lose support until mid 2019 so it's probably not too bad to have the machine online.
I've used car bumper "Back to Black" on plastics like that before. Comes up a treat!
I had a T42 maxxed out at 2GB of RAM and I installed Windows 7 on it and it ran great!
Your CCFL backlight tube is dying - that's why the screen starts out looking purple/orange. I had to replace mine.
After years of faithful service, I eventually sold mine to a Thinkpad enthusiast who is a city contractor and was going to use it for his work - it may still be on the job!
Did the same to an R51 I got from a banking firm years ago when they where recycling machines. Went far enough to uprage CPU on it too. The thing runs linux now and is used as a music player on a stereo system these things are rugged as can be!
I found a cheap deal on a great condition T42p that was already pretty maxed by default, with pentium M 765 (2.1ghz), 2gb ram, and ati firegl card equivalent of radeon 9600, and 1600x1200 IPS, sweet machine for win98/win2000 dualboot retro gaming on the go, but it feels like its running rather hot, I wonder if theres anything I can do to improve the cooling on this thing? Plenty of info on how to improve the cooling on a T60, but nothing that I can find on the T42?
Time and date is not set, that is the warning you are getting on the browser , Linux mint would be a good option , great video 👍
Generally older systems running XP will have out of date security certificates for web browsers and XP isn’t designed to work with HTML5 and up protocols for most modern browsers. As it’s built on x32 bit architecture most modern programs will suffer as more up to date hardware tends to run on x64 bit architecture. You could try say a live USB running x32 Debian and seeing if that will inject some usability into the older hardware but honestly it’s a nostalgic trip to see one of these things running in such good condition! It was a treat watching this video and fantastic work as always!
I'm not sure if someone else said this but to stop the security certificate errors you need to make sure the date amd time are correct
you need to replace the cr2032 battery inside it, the date and time are out of sync. that's what causes the security cert warnings
You not helping
@@zaidali9073 ok told him why the security warnings are coming up, i wouldn;t use XP on the internet today but he knows this
I worked from a T42 for several years! Really nice robust machines! Great job getting this working - the crazy thing, I think I have a PSU for one of those here!!! To get it working properly - just get a Windows 10 Pro license off eBay for £5 and install Windows 10. I suspect Win 10 will run fine on it. You may need to add some RAM first (not sure it will go beyond 2GB) if you wanted to do that. The problem in general with certificates - Windows update used to update all the root certificates periodcally. They have been renewed over the years and not updated in Win XP. The net result is you get that cert error with most websites. You could probably manually install the various certificates and get around some of the issues. IE likely wont support some of the latest ciphers though, so you would need to go with the last version of Firefox / Opera supported by XP.
I don't think 10 will run fine as it is not very good on low end hardware unless you are in to OPTIMIZATION.
@@joeatron3222
Windows 10 HATES classic HDDs. It really needs an SSD, at least 2 threads and 2GB ram.
This has none if that. (And is also not really upgradable to SSDs - IDE SSDs are very rare)
However with enough RAM windows vista and 7 run fine on those Pentium M era laptops.
I personally would stick with XP or a light Linux. Just feels much snappier than that win 7.
Edit: I think W10 would not even run on this. The T42 probably still has the older "banias" pentium M core which doesn't advertise PAE support to the OS.
"Dothan" is needed for booting W8/10.
Great to see the old IBM Thinkpad (Now known as Lenovo Thinkpad) is still going strong. Just goes to show how well made they are made..
I have a Lenovo ideapad with a celeron. Its light and decent, that's it.
14:08 Lol, the age old Haitch vs Aitch. Regardless of your pronunciation Vince, you are still a scholar and a gentleman.
@Grimmy Grim Grim Yep I'm from as far south as you can get in the UK and we all pronounce it the same way as Vince.
Stay safe and well fella. Hope you and yours are being sensible.
Keep up the good work! Always interesting and always worth the full watch time!
aitch, haitch, erbs, herbs - I watch a number of UK, AUS, youtubers, and this all of a sudden came to my attention recently. And now you bring it up. I thought about it, and I wasn't going to say anything, but you let the cat out of the bag then, didn't you. There's this, and then also resources, rezources... Even Canadians are looped into that one too. Colourful English language, various pronunciations and spellings.
Used these for years. Decent machines. Very well made.
IBM ThinkPads are so robust that Aerith Gainsborough would use them to smack a Don Corneo lackey to death with it.
Collectors ? We are cult ! Thanks for saving great old machine ... and i suggest to keep this one for yourself . You never know when you will need win xp, and serial/paralell port for some projects ... and you can make this t42 dulal boot with some light linux like Lubuntu or similar. Thanks for great content, and stay safe.
Used to use one of these laptops many moons ago, well built solid item. Little life hack for you, to get rid of sticky label residue off any surface quickly you can simply use regular household furniture polish like pledge or Mr sheen. Comes off is seconds!
For anyone wondering:
The red screen backlight means that the backlight CCFL tubes are worn out. The screen is also very dim. A new tube would restore it to its original brightness which is MUCH MUCH brighter.
Also... Ewww, a blue trackpoint cap on a thinkpad... blasphemy :D
But otherwise nice job, I really enjoy the channel :)
The T42's are a very nice retro laptop and still usable today with the right OS plus they have one of the nicest keyboards going an innovative drainage system to stop the keyboard and main laptop getting water damage and if you press the fn and top right keys the keyboard light illuminates, on the whole a very tough and usable lapyop.
Keep safe and keep up the great content.
Great content as always Vince. Keep up the good work 👌 by the way thank you for recommending my channel to GadgetUK 😋
I have that same model here at home but the Fn keys+trackpoint aren't working, I always wonder if just changing the keyboard would resolve the problem
New > Text Document by simply right clicking on the desktop Vince ;)... Great vid was fun to watch ! Keep em comin!!
Vince, for the texture of the A cover, you can use hand cream, it comes out good as new; except for deep scratches. It sounds crazy but it works!
They are good laptops. I’ve got one very similar from early 2000’s that is still going strong. I use it as a second screen to VNC to my Raspberry Pi in my observatory. There’s a really useful little light in the lid that can illuminate the keyboard! Fn + PgUp! Good one Vince!
Hey Vince hope your keeping well during covid 19 keep uploading these longer videos to keep me entertained hope all is well at home
Im loving the new intros, it kinda shows how his editing skills are getting better :)
I had that exact laptop or possibly 2 models different. But IBM Think Pads were great.
I restored a thinkpad really nicely built and easy to repair as so many parts easily to get hold of and thinkpad's in good condition can fetch well over £100 in alot of cases
You did a really good job with this one Vince
I got given an old Dell desktop a few years ago and it wasn’t til I got it that I realised it was old, like 11 years old or so, but it’s a Dell Precision workstation. I fixed a couple of issues it had put Windows 10 on it and it’s the best Windows PC I’ve ever had. It’s got dual quad-core Xeon processors, 20GB RAM and two HDDs in RAID0. It’s my main machine in my home office and it runs everything I need it to perfectly. Had it not have been through sheer luck and my soldering skills (being a design and development engineer), the machine would be in a million pieces in India or somewhere, being recycled.
I say 'H' exactly the same :) Ignore the haters who have nothing better to do. Your videos are always enjoyable and friendly and relaxing to watch
I don't think I've ever clicked on a video so quickly. I love your repair videos, and I love Thinkpads.
I must say this one was more infuriating than satisfying to watch but I always watch and like your videos Vince. Keep it up!
Did not Mrs Vince have any nail varnish remover? That is acetone and dissolves superglue a treat but... it will also eat plastics quite quickly too if allowed to settle.
I'm thinking the black screws go into the bottom of the hard drive through the caddy and the two silver ones hold the black plastic piece by screwing into the side. Btw acetone is good at melting super glue
Your pronunciation of "H" is absolutely right Vince. No problem with that.
I had one of these for work. They are good machines for there time. I rescued another one from the bin.
The screen changing colour wasn't normal.
It is fairly easy to change the keyboard on these.
They don't have washers in the hard disk. The facia does just clip over the screws of the drive then just secures at the bottom. The one I had at work had 1.5Gb in it as I upgraded it at the time.
... I would try and replace the keyboard as a unit, though. Not just the individual keys.
... But, I guess it works.
Final pester. I was going to try Windows 98 to for retro games and DOS games on mine.
It may run a light weight Linux distribution?
The guy who sold you the laptop purposely sabotaged the H-key to make you say it and feel the need to clarify your pronunciation 😜
And as always, love the vid Vince! Keep it up ❤️
that is an awesome video your my favorite youtuber and you make amazing content. its always cool that you are able to fix a lot electronics with almost no issue. :)
this was very interesting to watch, i work a laptops, and computers alot, "screaming at my screen" hyperbole, alot, but it was great to see someone learn and figure stuff out, just like i do from your content! Awesome stuff!
Magic eraser worked good on my Thinkpad lid. Mine is a Lenovo one, though, perhaps the coating is different.
I need to do the BIOS update, but I don't have the battery, is there a way to bypass this obstacle?
Maybe you can answer this if you have time. The wireless signal shows that it is on below my display panel. I'm trying to connect it to my Android's mobile Hotspot. Under connect to a network on my thinkpad I see my phones ID and it says connecting in bold but then never connects. F5 doesn't work either. Do you have any idea what I can do? IBM customer service doesn't even know. Thanks.
I got a question what is the best Monitor for the next coming Xbox because I don’t know around the price range of 150 to 200
Good job Vince. Put a cheap SSD in it and install Windows 10. Will be a handy little laptop for the kids. Mick 👍🍻
Hi Vince, I have a T42 laying around and I recall the screen would have a very red tint, especially when it first comes on. If it wasn't for having to ship it, I would pass it on to you for parts.
People complaining how you pronounce "H" actually I love how you pronounce it of course I may be biased as I like and watch all your videos and have seen most of the modern ones
We still use IBM thinkpads at work. They've got 7 on them and they run just fine. I don't know how well the battery works in them because they are never unplugged
I have a T41 I use as an XP machine. Works for most video files as long as the bitrate isn't too high. It's air-gapped mostly because the Wireless is finicky but also because there isn't really much reason to use the Internet on it. Wireless-G means downloading right on it is slower than sneakernetting a downloaded file from another system via a thumb drive. If you are getting certificate errors verify the time and date are correct, I don't recall that being covered in the video.
If you want to use it on the Internet, you can download Firefox 37.02 from the Mozilla FTP repository (ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/). After you installed it, click on the question mark in the three bars menu and go to about Firefox and open it so often until there are no updates available any more (This should be at 52.9.0 ESR). There will also appear a tab in Firefox that tells, that no more updates are developed for Windows XP.
Hi Vince: Not sure if you have done this yet but I would put some heatsink compound on the CPU, the fan sounds a little noisy on startup and given the age of this I reckon it hasn't been changed.
My father had same in the past. Great machine
If you got an extra harddrive, you could clone the current drive to it, and upgrade the extra drive to windows 7 to rid of your wonder :D and yes an SSD would be insane, but I think that has an IDE interface, so an expensive Media Card CF and converter (if that is even needed). Microsoft is geared toward the Microsoft Store, much like Android older phones can't do Google Play. I had one of these, so it was a nice walk in history for me. :D Good job fixing it, and neat trick with the headlight restore idea.
I used to work for an it rental company, once I had to change the keys round to the UK layout on 15 x T40s as they all had the French keyboard layout, it took ages
For Retro computer stuff Lgr is a great channel.
What is that tool to charge things called?
Still occasionally use one of these for work. Win2000/98 dual boot. Get a solid 20 minutes out of the battery.
Certificate issues ? is the System Time and Date set correct ?
About the certificates, did you check you have the correct Date and Time set on the laptop after booting up? Try installing Firefox instead of Chrome.
The pink/orange tint on the screen is indicative that the CCFL backlight tube)s) are failing. Eventually they will die altogether but if the tint disappears after a few minutes and the backlight stays on, then it'll probably be OK for a bit. Replacing the tubes IS possible but a lot of work and that's assuming you could even get hold of the spares. Replacing the whole screen is the usual fix for this but it'll probably be ok for now as it is.
On IDE's there is a "key" which you should be able to see with a torch in there and also match up the slight gap between power pins array and IDE data array of pins. Laptop ones did have a slightly canted connector to prevent jarring a connection out of its socket and keep it locked with a good cohesive connection between pins. Those pins can bend extremely easily which is why the caddy is designed to "egg box" the drive, the caddy transmits the jarring forces to the chassis.
Do you want to know why it’s showing you a expired certificate sign? Because maybe the time and date is incorrect?
The battery is really worn and you can fix that too, you would have to replace the 18650 cells inside which make up the battery itself. That specific battery has 6 cells, 2 in parallel and 3 in series to get a nominal 12.6 volts.
Anyone know what make that little laptop is that vince uses
Watching you fight with that HDD was rough to watch. But I was impressed with the key switch. Most people would just replace the entire keyboard. The Nub - re/blue dot do come with different sized Squares on the bottom btw. Also, you prolly could get away running win 7. Just install the XP or 2k drivers if you have them. - I have worked with many Thinkpads in my day. They were business machines and therefore great for number crunching applications. These things outperformed my PC of the day, even tho my PC had way better stats
The T42 really isn't suited for 7 due to the age of the machine and xp runs just right, used to collect Thinkpads before moving on to higher end Dells that are more favorable for gaming and are more serviceable.
I had one running on Linux, worked great. I think they still support a 32 bit system.
Vince have you checked the clock battery sometimes old laptops don't boot without it removed or you get a new one personally i would test that.
It was a great laptop and my first pc I ever owned even if mine is a T43
You can try Lubuntu for a light OS for that laptop, also the time and date should be set when you browse on the internet.
Thanks for your video.
I actually surprised how fast it boots from and old mechanical IDE drive. Nowadays, if it's not an SSD, we wouldn't even bother with it. And also the fact that the battery still holds it's charge give it's age (though possibly the battery might have been replaced). Yes, it doesnt hold the charge long, but i've seen newer batteries die in minutes after a full charge. Also, what is the song that starts at the 26:00 minute mark? Seems lovely and chill.
Certs can be fixed by updating time and date, and replacing cmos battey. So the change sticks. There are browsers made specially for this problem. They spoof the browser so the we site doesn’t reject. I’m sure a quick search will bring right up. Good day!
It maybe worth while to find a replacement keyboard online they are very easy to replace and only have a couple of screws holding the down.
Win7 will definitely work, and it is just about as quick as XP. I used this same laptop up until about two years ago. All the drivers with Win7 worked, too.
The reason there is an orange tinge when it first powers on is it's probably using a CFL backlight (small fluorescent tubes) which aren't instantly at full power. Modern displays use LED's which mitigates this.
I have mine nb with xp and have no issues with certs (not sure if i had this problem). Using waterfox in it (it's using older firefix core (horay legacy addons) with uptodate security updates). So i thing it could really be that cr2032, or it's just a browser settings (again, not sure if i was solving anything like this).
I love my T42. I think I payed $30 on OfferUp and it works great for windows 98/XP gaming. It's wonderful.
Built like tanks in those days and a very sterdy unit,you didnt mention if it was service pack 3 or not which may help.
It's funny the things we forgot about laptops and Operating systems we haven't used in years. I'm working on fixing up my old T21 but for the life of me couldn't remember where the HDD was.
That pxe boot rom screen thing is also called network boot so the laptop in the earlier was trying to boot using files that it could have found in the network. And it also requires an ethernet cable. Also connecting a windows xp computer to the modern internet isnt a good idea as xp hasn't had an update since 2014.
The orange glow of the display is because of wear of the CCFL (which is used for the backlight). When old and nearly worn, they turn redish.
Hello Vince, great video! Can I ask what is the small netbook you are using that is running Windows 10? Thank you!
Thinkpads are awesome laptops!
Not as indestructible as a toughbook, but still really strong
The laptop's time and date settings in the bios have likely gone, from it being powered off for so long, which is making all the sites show that certificate error
hi! ^^/ Did You set the time and date on the laptop correctly? Cause certificates act up like that if time and date aren't set properly.
Hey Vince could u do how to fix wii remote not turning on even if u place the battery
@My Mate VINCE Hi Vince, love your videos. They're very entertaining, thorough and well produced. One of these days YOU WILL BE A PROFESSIONAL and you won't need that disclaimer at the start of your videos, trust me!
Are your time and date correct? Double-click on the time, set the date correctly and then go to the 'Internet time' tab and click on 'update now' to synchronise the time with the internet. It does do it correctly the majority of the time, even if it does come up with an error. You can set the time manually if this fails, but I seem to recall that Windows XP gets a bit fussy if the time isn't EXACTLY right!
It would also be a good idea to update to Service Pack 3 if you're not running it already which will allow you to install the latest supported version of Google Chrome and give you a much better experience when you're surfing the web. It won't be perfect, but it will be a lot better! Right-click on 'My Computer' and left-click on 'Properties' to see what service pack you're running. Those are the main things that would be causing the problem in the browser with the out of date/invalid website certificate. Can you please make a quick revisit video on this when you can? I'd really appreciate it. Keep up the good wok!
Regards,
Troy
PS; Windows XP Service Pack 3 can be downloaded from here, it's the first download on the list.
www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Windows%20XP%20SP3
And Chrome from here; www.filepuma.com/download/google_chrome_32bit_49.0.2623.112-11045/
*MAKE SURE YOU CLICK ON THE GREEN 'Download Now' button just below the information about the software and NOT whatever ad happens to be on the website at the time!
You'll have to use another computer to download both these pieces of software as what's on the laptop at the moment is too outdated to accomplish this! :-)
The PXE error is just an error stating that it cannot boot from the network. In bigger environments they usually setup a way to install machines from the network and PXE is used to boot up the machine from the network.
I mean you can download windows 10 or 8 on the ibm thinkpad using a usb or a disc wifh the intallation
I have one that just flashes all led lights one time when I push the power button. I have to take the battery out and back in again to get the
"Battery Charged " flashing green battery led to come back up. I have tried the old , take the battery out and press power 10x times then hold 30 secs , then tried again. There are many screws missing and i was thinking from reading the manual "make sure all components are connected well" quote and make me think that some of the screws might complete a circuit? Anyone reading this have any idea to get it to boot would be great . Thanks.
could it not boot to bios if the cpu/ keyboard/ touchpad / cpu fan is not working? Do they complete some sort of circuit to boot to bios?
who else loves ThinkPads?
I got an idea pad and it sucks. But thinkpads are amazing
I like older IBM Thinkpads. Not really a fan of the Lenovo ones.
vince if you do not mind me asking how much did you pay for your bench power supply
Vince, the K-meleon browser works around certificate issues in XP. Just make sure you've got the latest version.
funny thing is that i have an exact model of this right next to me. it works great!
Best to put some lightweight linux distro on it.
I love the T42. I have one myself, I use it to run Windows 98 on it, as it's got extremely good specs for a Win98 machine and runs everything win98 you can throw at it thanks to having native drivers. Looks like you're missing the mouse clit. Lots of people have trouble finding it :(
Lol bro as a car detailer EVEN I DON'T USE THAT MUCH POLISH ON HEADLIGHTS 😂 anyways man be careful next time cuz if you get them stuck in the gaps you're not gonna enjoy removing it 😂
Love your vids man keep up
Edit: i think it can handle Windows 7 quite nicely if you add a bit more ram and a better HDD or SSD
Good thing you didn't have acetone. I'm guessing those keys are abs plastic and acetone will melt abs pretty good
That T42 model is a little tank and is still a pretty good laptop, especially if you run Linux on it. If you throw in an SSD like I did playing with one it's actually really fast. I used an mSATA to IDE adapter with a 128GB SSD and set a 2048MB swap partition for virtual memory to go along with it's 2GB of RAM. I didn't think it would be that good but I had everything except for the $5 adapter and figured "Why not?" Haha
At a maximum 133MBs data transfer rate, you will not get a lot of performance out of an SSD. I have had HDDs reach 150MBs, and 80MBs over USB. Technically USB 2.0 could be faster, but in reality its not. This is a difficult recommendation - though I am putting a 64GB SSD on a iMac G4 (snow globe), which is IDE - total expense? $11 for the adaptor.
@@danilko1 Running operating systems requires rather fast random read/write speeds, at which SSDs vastly excel over HDDs.
That's what's really good about Linux. Linux is able to put a lot of old systems back to life. The thing is 32 bit processors systems aren't getting much support anymore, because 32 bit is just too old, and not many people are running them anymore, so there's just not many software, and operating systems supporting them anymore.
@@danilko1 that 133MB/s cap of the ATA100 bus means nothing really when it comes to running the system. The SSD is helping with low latency, simply navigating the system and with the read/write speeds of small files. The SSD is ready to pretty much instantly open folders and programs whereas a HDD can't possibly do it as fast. I guarantee that if you set up a T42 exactly as I did except with the fastest HDD you could possibly put in it, the real world use of that laptop would pale in performance next to the one with the SSD.
Edit: I forgot another huge benefit of the SSD over the HDD. The SSD can access the swap partition/virtual memory much MUCH faster!
@@danilko1 a good analogy would be take a rotary engine and a standard engine that both have the same exact HP. Let's see which one revs quicker. Haha
They really don't build them like they used to! These are a classic machine..hopefully someone will appreciate this one.
Oh well, -36 minutes and -58 seconds of sleep ahead
You could also try going into the internet options in Internet explorer and resetting everything to default.