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‘Argentina were better WITHOUT Lionel Messi!’ 👀 Copa America final reaction | ESPN FC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- The Futbol Americas crew react to Argentina’s 1-0 extra time win over Colombia to secure their 16th Copa America title.
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Messi has been singlehandedly carrying Argentina in major tournaments for as long as I can remember.
I think it was about time his teammates returned the favour
Di Maria
You are wrong brother, messi is special, Best player of planet but what he needs from the start is a team which have great team spirit and some real qualities, and this team oh wow, lisandro, Romero, dibu, Mac Allister, Enzo, De Paul, Paredes, Julian, lautaro this team has the quality players which every other team don't have right now, those team have player who plays for big team but right now argentina has the best quality player every other team can dream of. Vamos❤
@@YoungBloodMuzic spot on
@@MegaCoolboy78he had 1 goal and 1 assist in the Copa America 2021 and Wc how did he carry Argentina????
@@MegaCoolboy78 yes how can I forgot. DiMaria is always have something for the finals we can not win any of those without him
Argentina would not have won a single title if it were not for Messi . They all fight to win for him, that’s the difference. He is their leader. I just think people jump on Messi and criticism him continually despite his achievements throughout his career. I hate people sometimes. He’s 37, obviously he’s slower. But it’s his presence around the team that now matters. He gives them confidence, strength and motivation to win 🐐🇦🇷 messi the best ever. Stop criticising him he is eternal
♾️⚽🐐 GOATED
Perfection. The motivation he give on n off the pitch is what drives these players to victory.🔥🔥🔥
Not to mention, he got injured against Chile, that’s why he didn’t play against Peru.
Absolutely correct 💯
Well said bro...pathetic espn
Messi was not at his full best mainly because of injury since his match against Equador.
That Lautaro Martinez scores and comes to hug Messi says it all .. what Messi is to the team !!!!
Well he also played 30 min with that ankle, maybe think about that lmao
Messi should not be playing from the start.
He was injured. Yes he is the motivation but he also a weak link.
Messi wont good period during the tournament. What you talking about sir? 😂😅
just admit it man pessi is finished at 37 cr7 at that age was a beast dominating juventus and man united like a true goat 😎
@alucard4602
While , MESSI had won the WORLD CUP & his 8th BALLON D'' 0R !!!!
Messi's presence on the field is more than motivation for fellow teammates
Tell them .. Let's see how far they can go in 2026 WC without his presence, magic and leadership
@Triple_X_X they will be more hungry
@@Triple_X_X He will play in 2026 too.
@@Triple_X_Xas big of a messi fan I am, it's clear they would do well without him. Had he stayed on last night, who knows if argentina would win or even create that many chances.
Messi needs to retire on a high and step down now.
He is 37 and done it all. Better to retire as a Champion
This was not Messis Best tournament at all. But he was also injured the whole tournament. Another thing is his pressence which makes Argentina want it even more.
It's actually his 4th best campaign tbh. People are looking at goals
1.2021
2. 2015
3. 2016
4. 2024
5. 2019
6. 2007
in that order....
@@phistoltv5196 Are you talking about Copa only?
Congratulations to Argentina but both Messi and Ronaldo should retire from international football. They are now a burden to the team.They are already legends. FIFA will give Messi another Balon dor as usual since his teammates helped him to win Copa America just like last year. FIFA is corrupt.
@@user-pf3wo2kc2jU comparing Messi to Ronaldo? Messi can play deep into his 40 with just his passing ,free kicks and vision. Football can't leave him alone.
@@Waluigi-vr4qz yep Copa America only. He had 1 bad game vs Ecuador and 1average game vs Colombia. He played very well vs Chile & Canada. The goals were the only thing missing
What a disgusting title. Messi kept millions of people awake ⏰️ people want to see him. Messi is eternal.
Expect nothing less from Ale Moreno.
Argentina did actually played better as soon as he came off the field, it fueled them to go an extra gear against a very aggressive Columbian side
@@uniquejavii Colombia wouldn’t have be able to play agressive all game. You could see the players were gassed as the game went on. And Nico Gonzalez,who came on for messi was wasting scoring chances anyways..The reason they won is because of their subs at extra time.
You do kno messi was carrying an injury @@uniquejavii
@@chrismar2462 yes I knew that, that made him a passenger for most of the time in games but he's still effective cuz he draw his opponents so that his teammates could get in behind with a lot of space
Stop disrespecting Argentina like that. Back to back three major international tournaments? It’s freakin’ Four! Finallissima counts! It’s like a UEFA super cup where two winning teams from two different tournaments meet for the ultimate prize. Geez.
Which country are you from?
I'm in awe of Argentina's achievement however no, finalisima is not a tournament. It is just a one off game that happens during pre season.
@@richardbroad2848doesn't matter what u think. Coz they are gonna win 2025 Finalissima. And nothing will come close to the World Cup. Cr7 fans csn cry elsewhere
@@richardbroad2848IT is the competition that replaced federation cup. It used to be what it was 30 years ago. It is a legitimate major trophy
It's better than super Cup because copa and euros are same level competitions unlike UCL and Europa league.
Every Argentinian players won the final for the tears dropped from Messi's eyes.
It is impossible for them to lose this game if it is for Di maria's last game.
how can they possibly lose? they will win it for Di maria and Messi and they did.
Ale was just too harsh on Messi. He's been carrying his team and doesn't take credit when he doesn't deserve it.
Let's not be too fast to condemn Messi. He's still the GOAT.
And which English player has been good for England national team ?? Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Saka ?? Or are they all coming Home ?? With this despicable panel, which still needs clickbait views from....MESSI only
LOL Espn has nothing else to do but find ways to make sure they use Messi Negative. This guy kept shouting before WC and was silent for 1 month. Now he is Barking again😂😂
Bro, every media outlet does this. They look for a prominent name to criticize to get more views, the same was done to Ronaldo last week; it's nothing new and it's unfortunately fair game when you're a public figure. Nevertheless, they still made some valid points but they forgot to mention that Messi was nursing a recurring injury. I hate to say it but Messi doesn't have the same durability as he once had. In the past, only horrible injuries would have kept him out but this time, he needs to recuperate to recover his fitness. However, old age is catching up to him and with those years on his legs, it's going to take some time before he even gets back to who he once was.
@@pjs7136but Ronaldo is finished, it’s normal that espn and media bashes him, Messi still Can give something to the team, he just needs time to recover from his injuries
@@ezelegui7901you can't say his finished, they old, everyone needs to accept they need players around them to help them play. They can't carry teams anymore it's ridiculous to say someone is finished when they still got qualities most players clearly lack. Use knowledge and not feelingz when discussing things in public.
@@ezelegui7901 Messi is also finished it's high time you fans realize that.
Messi ain't done yet. He is still an elite playmaker and set piece taker including free kicks. Ronaldo is done for sure. Euros confirmed that. @@kkunited1
Argentina are never better without Messi because they play for him. Emi Martinez has said in interviews that he had a bigger desire to see Messi win the World Cup than to win it himself. These players grew up watching and idolizing Messi and they want to see him achieve what he couldn’t in the past. He is the reason that Argentina play as hard and motivated as they do.
they re playing for themselves and that s how it should be.
Agreed and well said! Messi's presence gave the team spirit, and his injury made his teammates work even harder. Without a common goal, everyone just runs on the field like headless chickens; England is proof of that.
And which English player has been good for England national team ?? Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Saka ?? Or are they all coming Home ?? With this despicable panel, which still needs clickbait views from....MESSI only
@@user-ko2hx7vf9lNo they are clearly playing for Messi as they showed it on thé pitch and during their interviews
@@user-ko2hx7vf9l if they're playing for themselves they wont even give messi the ball,him taking freekicks and penalties.
*Mad fangirls:* B-bu-but FIFA rigged it for Argentina DURRRR
Yeah CONMEBOL and FIFA were rolling out the red carpet for Argentina during the Copa. That’s why they suspended Argentina’s manager Scaloni for the match against Peru just because Argentina was late returning for the second half. Because when you're secretly rooting for a team, obviously you start by disciplining their manager, right?
And let's not forget the crowning moment of favoritism: Messi getting hacked by Chile’s defender Gabriel Suazo, ending up injured. What happened then? Oh nothing, because Suazo didn’t even get a yellow card. Talk about showing love to FIFA’s so-called "golden boy"! What kind of pro-Argentina referee fails to penalize the player responsible for injuring Argentina’s main player and captain? I guess FIFA had a brief lapse in memory about their supposed fondness for Messi, nearly costing Argentina the Final against Colombia as their playmaker was forced out in the second half.
But wait, there's more! Ecuador was given a penalty in the quarterfinals and their tying goal in the 90th minute was allowed after a VAR check. I thought VAR was supposed to be on Argentina’s side? So, let’s get this straight: FIFA wanted Argentina to win so badly that they generously gift Ecuador a penalty when Argentina was only leading by one goal? A perfect technique to risk Argentina going out in the penalty shootouts, just like the two Copa Finals against Chile. And not to mention, Ecuador’s tying goal happened during stoppage time, almost leading to Argentina's exit, again why did the supposedly pro-Argentina VAR allow this?
And in the final against Colombia, a blatant handball by a Colombian defender during a cross was left unaddressed, igniting Scaloni's ire. Where was the famed "Argentina always gets penalties" fairy tale then? Shouldn't FIFA, in their supposedly pro-Argentina wisdom, have handed over a penalty on a silver platter to pave Argentina's way and avoid a dreaded shootout scenario? Whatever happened to the overplayed "Penalty for Argentina"? If those were even remotely true, how come Argentina didn’t receive a single penalty throughout the entire Copa America tournament?
Of course, who could forget Argentina’s first goal in this final being ruled as offside. It was clearly offside, but I thought VAR or FIFA was supposed to be rooting for Argentina? Why did they disallow their goals as offside, just like in the 2022 World Cup against Saudi Arabia, where three of their goals were nullified for offside, culminating in an embarrassing loss to Saudi Arabia?
Because nothing screams "rigged" like perpetually putting the supposedly favored team on the verge of elimination. Truly, a masterful, galaxy-brain strategy for "rigging" a tournament.
So yeah, if FIFA were trying to hand Copa America to Argentina, they sure have a funny way of showing it. Almost as if Argentina simply won through skill and determination, rather than some elaborate plan. But hey, never let reality get in the way of a good coping mechanism. Keep seething!
Respect!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah I agree with you pal
You are a genius
Best comment ever
Martinez won Copa America, Seri A, Italian Cup all by being the tournament's top scorer. He's now favourite for the Ballon D'or. No other contender is close.
Carvajal, Rodri should get a shout too
I hope Martinez becomes a top contender for Ballon d'Or.
No other contender is close😂
They'll give it to vini coz he's from madrid
Nah mate they gonna give it to vini or Bellingham cause they have bigger media pr that el toro even tho el toro had better season than both of them.
Messi was the only reason why Argentina could reach so many Finals in recent years..He was the sole reason so many people stayed awake to watch the game and Copa America..
Please don't underestimate him like this..now he is 37, he will be a little slower..
Just one day, he got injured(Serious, if the pain had been tolerable he would never be subbed)
We are glad for Argentina but more for our GOAT Messi..🎉❤
Em Martinez, L Martinez, Di Maria, Otamendi, and everyone else were obviously very good too..🎉❤
The departure of Messi may be motivated the team to pay him back what he did for them.
Cope
@@therealmohammad why cope when messi is the goat?
And I don't understand these analyst talking about Colombia had like 3 chances when Messi was on the field. Is that his fault? Last I checked he is no defender.
They think the only player substituted was Messi.😂😂😂
Whether he's on the field or not, he is the driving force behind all the success this team has achieved. When Martinez scored he ran towards Messi along with others which tells you what he means to them, the Goat of football keeps adding to his collection
😂😂😂😂 He’s been useless for us this year we’re carried him far enough. Thank You and Goodbye
@@himynameis294but when he was carrying them where were you ?
@@amiebojang2234Lol you must be dreaming DiMaria, Aguero he’s always had quality players around him.
@@himynameis294 then what have they done all these years since Messi can’t win international trophies until it came 2021 to now , because that has been the discussion for about 15 years that Messi can’t win an international trophy but this names you mention here where were they ? And what have they done ? But question has always being Messi can’t win an international trophy why didn’t you mention them when Messi was taking the hold blame for Argentine not winning but now that they started winning from 2021 .you start calling names forgotten that it was the Messi taking the blame for Argentina not winning so can’t you take the same energy. When they winning for Messi but no looking for ways to pull him down but his name is in Argentina history and nothing can change that he cemented his legacy not just in Argentina but football itself .
@@amiebojang2234 😂😂😂😂 So emotional like when he was rolling around the field last night because he could keep up with the pace of the game, then he started crying for no reason.
The level of dislike this channel has for Messi is crazy.
No. That's not true
@@sphamandlatshehla lol ESPN are Messi fan boys and Ronaldo haters. Not sure which planet you are from.
Same with Ronaldo
And which English player has been good for England national team ?? Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Saka ?? Or are they all coming Home ?? With this despicable panel, which still needs clickbait views from....MESSI only
@@yemi3266Yes it's true
Argentina last thier first 3 finals with Messi. Now they're winning all with him. Football is unpredictably beautiful. Messi did so much for Argentina and the players. This team will die for him. That's the difference when a leader is humble and not driven by selfish ego.
THts because of scaloni.
@@arielabril1981 Not really In the oitch Messi is the leader... In the locker room Scaloni...
Messi still have way more influence than Scaloni on the team...
@@Vladimirputin11111 if that's the case why you didn't win wc with maradona as a coach 😂 or win farmer's trophy copa in 2007,2015,16
@@sweetcjcj8503 Even the best team/greatet team Doesn’t win Every tournament...
Messi was 23y old only in 2010 🤓🤡☕.. He wasn’t the Captain at that time...
Seasonal fans...
@@sweetcjcj8503 Reaching 4x International finals is not every ones cup of team...Scaloni didn’t win Wc Without Messi being the MVP....
Messi was the main main but Emi & Di maria was exceptional as well....
Messi is now the player with the most trophies in football history (45)
For that 50 min, yes Argentina was def better than when Messi was on, thats a fact, however they couldnt win the tournament from start to finish without him...thats a fact too. I get the strategic video title tho.
Nah, this tournament Argentina could’ve won it without Messi, Messi just scored a goal this tournament,they couldn’t win the copa america 2021 without Messi
@@ezelegui7901They wouldn't get pass ecuador. Messi was the catalyst that started that goal against ecuador. The standard Messi has set for himself is really hunting him .
@@ezelegui7901 Not true. Argentina without Messi is not the same team, even if he’s not playing great. The players Iove for Messi and his leadership is one of the main reasons why this team has been so successful.
Even though he didn't assist or score he was involved in a lot of the goals especially against Canada Ecuador and Chile, so I doubt they would of even won those matches without him
@@powerscallingfiend I agree Argentina was struggling against Ecuador and it's less likely they would of even won the match without him
Still, 37 years of age, won everything, and still not enough for underachieved, jealous”pundits”.
Both team struggled, Columbia didn’t have subs until the end. When they were made, it was clear that their qualityhas dropped.
Argentina knows how take advantage of this kinda situations .
But please can you forgive him that he got injured ? Because the matter of what they say about him, he’s not alien. He’s a human. He completed his duty for Argentina.
this is how he has been being criticized over the years. This is pure stupidity.
😭
He motivated his teammates to win it for departing Di Maria & Otamendi. That's how it is and that's how they play. They will do anything for their Captain wether it gots ugly and the match end up smoking.
Their possession fell when Messi subbed out. That paredes was tackling everything and that Lautaro scored had nothing to do with Messi going out. That would’ve have happened if Messi was on
😂🤦♂️
The Argentinian team is very strong and united because there is a team captain who is highly respected. There is not a single Argentinian player who dares to be arrogant as long as Lionel Messi is around. But after Lionel Messi retires, it will be seen that Argentinian players will show their arrogance to each other, and that will be a sign of destruction.
This team, even without Messi or DiMaria, has immense respect for each other and they play for each other. I am sure it's gonna be the same after Messi leaves the team finally.
What are u saying? Stop talking nonsense, what you think this is, brazil? Players won’t show their arrogance when Messi retires because they are respectful, that’s Brazil not Argentina
This group of players honestly doesn't look anything like the other top South American teams of the past the team isn't filled with star players it's players that complement each other which will always work better
Nah, they’ll still respect the likes of Lautaro, Lo Ceslo, Cuti Romero and gk Martinez.
Messi was hurt by Colombia n that gave the energy for Argentines to take revenge n won it. Mr.Hercules your prediction once again failed. So oh just leave it u r a Ronoldo freak 😂
Her-cu- lo is a fiasco and stands out for ridiculous commentary! That panel would be better off w/o him.
The brilliance of this Argentina team is Scaloni. Messi has had a better team several years before Scaloni. World class strikers and people like Di Maria is top form. But only Scaloni could figure out how to get a team to play to Messi's strengths. It should be a textbook for any coach, coaching a world class player.
Only shaka talked with sense
ESPN always tries to criticize Messi and Ronaldo in their bad times, Messi left pitch with injury and they are talking like he left due to bad performance 😡😡
That’s how they eat lol.
Fr
With Messi they play possession football without Messi they play counter-attack. I know which one Argentina and Scaloni prefers, so Messi is indispensable for this side.
Ale
My friend I respect you most for your views, but did you factor in that Colombia was tiring and spaces became more available, Messi if he was there would have explored that. Also with Argentina subs on they imposed themselves and Messi if on the field without injury would have explored that as well.
So when we say Argentina were better without Messi we need to explore all the factors to be fair
Spot on
100% agree
Exactly. Spain also improved against England after Rodri went off, yet that's not because they are a better team without him, they simply were able to exploit more space that was being afforded to them. Like you said, it's the same for Argentina. The game opened up more because Colombia obviously didn't have to worry about the presence of Messi.
@@Gfresh844 yeah, England underestimated Zubimendi and didn't mark him as closely as they did Rodri.
Really Argentina better without Messi? I don’t think so
Only ESPN Thinks So😂😂. For Views Obviously
In this tournament
I thought they struggled without him! Even the stats ESPN is displaying showed they were better with him.
Colombia controlled the game all through the second half. ESPN at 😢
They acting like they scored a goal right after messi was subbed out. The player who came for messi , Nico Gonzalez wasn’t even that good and was wasting chances. The subs that were actually impactful were made at extra time .These stupid pundits love to find something to criticize messi no matter what.
@@Steph_D_1stnah, having more possession doesn’t mean that they control the game, Argentina had the better chances while Colombia looked shocked and didn’t attack as much compared to Argentina
Since messi came off with injury the players felt a grudge to make Columbia pay the physical bill
Argentina would've NEVER won all their games without the goat MESSI!
Yet they won the final without him 😕
@@ericbates07guess what? Messi was the catalyst for the goal against Ecuador. Without him, Argentina would’ve lost against Ecuador.
@@Rex.404so true 100% cause if anyone watch that match they could see Argentina was struggling against Ecuador and it was the only time in copa América they concedes a goal
Hey penaldog fan who scored in wc twice? And against mexico and other teams 7 goals all assist who ur dad messi 21 copa mvp with most goals! 😂@@ericbates07
@@Rex.404 Na they will still gonna win, this team is much better without messi
tell me you a ronaldo fanboy without telling me you are a ronaldo fanboy
Messi tried to help his team even when he's injured.
Ronaldo also helped his team to go home together.
😂😂
@@provid.m Is sad from what i saw Messi is totally finish if we want to say the truth, Ronaldo might not hv scored but if you see his efforts and shots on target you will kmow there are still some gas left in him, but man that Messi i saw yesterday is no more a footballer
@@mfonmbatt6235 Lol spoken like a true CR fan.... Despite all CR's shots, Messi was the one who was actually able to score a goal. He also created 17 chances for his teammates in less than 4 games, where as Ronaldo created just 6 in 5 matches, of which two went to extra time. An injured Messi was better than Ronaldo.
Yeh in farmers trophy against 48th place Canada 30th place Ecuador and 12th place Colombia 😂😂@@Gfresh844
Messi is the core to keep these stars together, fighting as a unit. Did you notice that if one player made a mistake, teammates just pick him up from there! No inside fight, no frustration signs or complaining etc. This is a big part why they have been successful. When Messi is gone, I am not sure this team can fight as one.
💯 about the first part. Many of them stars who don't berate or try to one-up the other. Truly united.
💯
Life is a long journey indeed which requires an enormous amount of patience.I remember 2016 Argentina losing to Chile in the final in the USA and now winning in the USA almost 8 years later.What a story!
What a tereible title. He is the heart and soul of this team, his mere presence motivates the team like nothing else can.
I am a Messi fan. But those fans that blindly say that Messi carried Argentina for so many years are just biased without caring about the facts. It is true Messi did not have a good tournament this time. He tried his best and it was unfortunate that he got injured. But it is true the team played better without him. He didn't kick up a fuss, he just got overwhelmed and the team gave him the space and left him alone. He was quietly in with the substitutes in the team huddle in extra-time. He respected the coach & his teammates and tried to draw as little attention to himself as possible. Despite his status, he has always been a team player. Yes, he is older and he may be past his prime but he is still a valuable player in the Argentina set-up given the respect he has and his vast experience.
About time somebody else stood up up front! Of course Argentina looked better without Messi, Messi hasn't been fit since that tackle vs Chile, and then the tackle in the final on top of that... but they weren't actually better without him, as defenders weren't as scared of Nico Gonzales as they are of Messi! a half injured Messi was still able to almost to make a run and score, which unfortunately was blocked by Alvarez.
It still took 112 minutes, and Colombia getting tired, for them to exploit the subsequent spaces and gaps left by Colombia!
Spaces which a healthy Messi would've exposed, as we've seen him make plenty of sprints in the last 10 min this year!
Nico gonzales might've looked great, like he always does, but once again did absolutely nothing in front of goal, and if Argentina had lost, he would've been blasted for missing at least 3 chances.
Luckily Lautaro was in form, form he lacked during the World Cup, might I remind you!
Lautaro is an actual striker unlike nico higuain gonzalez
One of the best serie a seasons for luataro in his prime this was HIS tournament from argentina’s point
@@piggy8761 hmm yeah… 24 goals and 3 assists in serie a 23/24, but then again, in 22/23 he had 21 goals and 6 assists and had no still had no form at all in the world cup
Never claimed nico gonzalez was a striker, however a winger still needs to score when in the position to do so, and when playing for argentina he always misses so many chances!
For argentina: 39 matches and only 5 goals and 3 assists
@@bynahelemaal agree lautaro that world cup he was snakebitten and he was way out of his form for some reason
While alvarez shined that tournament
Argentina is in good hands post messi, regardless
Messi's one year is worth more than the entire careers of these five guys.
They just played for him once again 🤷🏾♂️
They still win if he is on the pitch
Impressive win, Columbia was so strong and yet managed to win it
Where is the country Columbia?
Argentina is not a one man team. They have depth and a great mentality. Even without Messi they would be contenders for any title.
Not sure I'd say they were necessarily better without Messi and the game goes through different phases naturally.
The fact is Argentina absorbed all energy of Colombia and won the Championship.... That's it... Congratulations Argentina 🎉🎉🎉
Messi was looking good in final, he wasnt loosing ball and passing well, even had a chance for goal if his shot wasnt blocked by alvarez. (And that play was created by messi )
But then Colombia injured him
Well he also played 30 min with that ankle, maybe think about that lmao
Messi the goat🇦🇷😉🏆
Messi for Ballon D'or...❤️⚽🐐🇦🇷
Why is he so mad after Columbia lost the match 😂😂😂😂
Argentina is a team, they can do it with him and without because they trust each other and they have the quality to play with and without
You're wrong my friend without Messi Argentina is all the same as always but with him on the field or on the bench Argentina is on adrenaline... None like Messi😊
after diego maradona we all the football world forgets argentina but lionel messi bring us all back they won copa america after 1995 and world cup after 1986 so with out messi argentina is nothing
Nah Argentina has many upcoming talents,messi sons will represent Argentina has well
I mean it's only fair for Argentina to give back to messi 😂❤
How do you even think about this talking point after everything he’s done in his career. Now they’re better? Clickbait FC
Messi always has and always will when healthy make the team better. He is always the point of difference 🐐🇦🇷
Eli, you have forgotten Messi's 19th minute's turn and twist. Plus, Messi almost scored, if wasn’t deflected by Alvarez
All those years
2014,2015 &2016..
He gave the best performances but never won.
It's only fair that life gifted him another trophy besides his bad performance
He was still in his prime then.
Angel Di Maria is the most UNAPPRECIATE PLAYER IN THE WORLD. LAUTARO NEEDS TO GET SOME RESPECT BECAUSE HE IS A QUALITY STRIKER.
As a USMNT fan it’s nice to watch a coach understand how and when to use subs, Scaloni is masterful with his tactics & in match adjustments.
I wonder if they are going to say it's the same for spain with rodri. Argentina had chances to score with messi on the field
How dum it is people were crying because it was messi last Copa America even typing it out makes me emotional, god daam u espn.
I believe he will still play in wc 2026 n copa 2028...and hang out his boots
Before the match these so called analysts predicted Columbia will win. Now using a provocating headline "Argentina were better WITHOUT Lionel Messi!"
Fr
This tournament just showed how good Argentina are, not depending on any one or two players, playing as a group of players, clicking well and delivering when it is needed the most.
The best there is, was and ever will be... Lionel Andres Messi... GOAT...❤️⚽🐐🇦🇷
Argentina is a weird team. Most of the time they look like they play like sh*t but they still win the games. All the talk is about Messi and their clinical strikers but this is very, very defensive minded team. Much like Carlos Bilardo's Argentina in the 80's and 90's. They allowed only one goal in this tournament. When they had offensive minded coaches who wanted pretty football (Basile, Bielsa, Pekerman) they never achieved anything. But Sabella's defense first approach took them to the World Cup Final in 2014 and also Scaloni's "defense first" approach to all these new trophies. It's not pretty to watch but the results are quite amazing.
But that's the pragmatism of Argentina. They knows the balance
Its how most international tournaments are won. The notion that Brazil 1970 football wins international tournaments is a fallacy.
Incredible commentary. Your observation and knowledge of the game is top notch.
Teams are built from the bottom first,like houses.The bottom is the defense.
You can't consistently win trophies without having grit. It kinda reminds me of Ancelottis Real Madrid. Pretty football doesn't always win you football, Spain 2010-2012 & Brazil 1958-1962 was the only team to do that
Argentina always suffer
Argentina will never be better without Messi they win for him 🏆🏆🎖️🎖️🎖️🇦🇷😊
Messi got a knock in the first match itself against Canada , and from that point onwards , he was clearly in discomfort...every time, he touched the ball, you could feel that its not the same LM10 ...yet , he grilled it out , playing with pain, till the point he absolutely couldn't continue...shows the determination and mental strength of the man , which he has instilled in other players around him too over the years
Master vs Disciple. I can only wonder what the Finalissima would look like, two teams that are so aggressive in attack. Unlike most top European countries that showed pathetic quality in attack this Euro, Spain and in America, Argentina, they play superb attacking football. It'd be a great match up, deserves a watch.
Tryna score more views with Messi's name..
So true
There's not been any tournament until this one that Argentina has won and Messi has not won any individual award. That's the amount of impact Messi has on this team. So stop spreading hate against Messi because without him there can never be any team that's better.
Absolute bullsh*t from Ale Moreno. I've always respected him and his opinions, quite surprised at him being so harsh on Messi.
After Messi left the field, the Argentine midfield immediately seemed to be disjointed and repeatedly gave away the ball cheaply. Suddenly the spaces that were created by Messi (by pulling defenders towards him), were no longer there and Argentina had to fight to survive the Colombian onslaught. The Argentine defence had to suffer a lot when Colombia gained even more confidence and Colombia's defence wasn't not really challenged throughout the 90 mins.
Finally in Extra Time, when the Colombian defenders looked extremely tired, Argentina took great advantage of it and scored a goal through Lautaro Martinez. Up until then, it did not really look like they were gonna score.
So, in essence, it's absolutely NOT true that Argentina looked better without Messi, in fact Messi would have easily helped the team create more chances, and probably finished off the game within 90 mins hadn't he been injured and taken off.
I don't listen to what anyone thinks....i just know messi is the best thing to ever happenen to football
Messi is everything to Argentina ❤
This Argentina team has heart. They play with it and give everything. I think that’s what makes this team the best at the moment.
Hello ESPN FC,I have unsubscribed you already.Respect GOAT
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Even If Argentina players see this video then they would also beat you up. Messi mean so much for them. The presence of Messi makes them motivated to fight for everything. They know the struggle of Messi and the pain that Messi endured in his international career. These young players knows how Messi used to carry the team. These clown journalists should stop talking about football seriously.
These so called pundits are hypocrites. Don’t judge him with this one game. It wasn’t even that bad. He came in with an injury. His presence in the team alone lifts the spirit of the whole team and the whole nation. Respect!
Never forget that Messi won the World Cup because of PSG.
biggest accomplishment in the club's history
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The video from ESPN is not a surprise
ARGENTINA just won a trophy and this is what a major media house is saying...........Messi was fit twice in this competition and he had 10 dribbles and 9 big chances in these two big games. But these clowns always find way to remove Messi's good and also spill sh!t about him. It's a shame. If it's Ronaldo who was a$$, they will still praise him like he did something.
This guys is so unappreciative. This is a guy that called Messi names until he was silenced when Messi won world cup. He went quiet and now he is back barking like mad dog disrespecting the man, for Christ's sake the guy was injured and has played the with injury through out the tournament. Demn bro have some respect
Messi deserves it a lot though. For years he contributed a lot, but the team wasn't good enough. Now it's a great team. He isn't able to do as much anymore, but it's ok.
To win cups u need to be perfect like Spain but Argentina struggle now downgrade u can see
It spain is could be the new number one
most of you said, if the final goes to extra time, Columbia will win. What is the result?
Im 33 and i feel old
What more about a 37 year old man playing top fleight football on the international stage.
IN A FINAL OF ALL THINGS FOR PETES SAKE!!!
That man is the 🐐
Argentina players were fighting for Messi. He was the source of motivation.
Copa it's easy Compare to Euro.. it's difficult. Messi just got trophy from easy country and the club.. if he is good he should go to Barclays premier league. There are strong opponents..
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😂😂 messi has most goals against top 5 epl team without even playing in epl compared to pendu who played 7 yrs in epl
He is nearly retired no need for that
Joker
well after 30 years they finally did it without him😂
random Fact: Argentina has won MORE international titles (4) in three years, than matches lost (2) in the same spawn of time
Titles: CA 2021 Champions, Finallissima 2021 Champions, World Cup 2022 Champions, CA 2024 Champions
Losses: against Saudi Arabia (WC), Against Uruguay (Friendly).
2021 Copa America - Messi player of the Tournament ; 2022 Finalissima - Messi Man of the Match, 2023 World Cup - Messi best player of the Tournament, 2024 Copa America- Messi gets Injured - ESPN 🤡 Argentina was better without Messi. There are levels to how full of themselves these pundits are. 🤥🤥🤥🤥
MESSIA 👑🐐♾️ The Greatest GOAT of Football ⚽🌎🌍🌏🥇
As a Messi fan, all valid points!
what exactly is valid in their point? That a 37-year-old man who took them to 8 finals should run like a 16-year-old? You are not a Messi fan, stop lying? It is a team and one tree don't make a forest.....
Yeah Argentina improved and Colombia were tired, let's consider all of the factors.
Argentina were motivated to win for Messi, it WAS Leo that aided Argentina to victory. They coast and rely on Messi's individual brilliance if he did not get injured. Because he did, they had to focus even more on keeping the clean sheet while trying to attack while not giving the ball way at the midfield.
Messi has been injured and never recovered. He carried the team all alone all these years and now just one game they win without him. GOOD. You cry and we celebrate. No one deserves it more than Messi. He suffered his whole carrier because of his teammates letting him down. Messi is the GOAT and his haters are LOOSERS. hahahah
Impressive win for Argentina 💪 the greatest team in history
This Argentina knows how to play dirty and win...
At the same time they know how to win against top class football playing teams is well...
This dual face nature.... makes them favourite against any opposition
One thing I don't like about media is their way of hooking people with scandals and controversy. Don't give negative feedback to say something and sell your show. We know negativity sells but you can't just go ahead and preach negativity about messi and abuse your freedom of choice to misguide people. If not messi then who? Enjoy him. He still has been contributing to each of the matches - Mentally, tactically, emotionally to the team, to those who love football and to his country. Messi is infinity. Celebrate him while he can play. And, yes he is the GOAT, not emotionally but statistically too. There you go!