excellent review - very useful. I certainly hope we get this in the US market - a lot of us here appreciate the efficiency and longevity of diesels. When you couple that with a plug in hybrid - WOW! I presently drive a Q5 Hybrid and it is fantastic
Hi Thomas, I've been watching your videos for some time now and have to say they're very informative, well-balanced and entertaining at the same time. I feel like some of the car reviews, that I watch, are not as objective as yours (maybe they're sponsored or sth). Anyway, keep doing your thing, you deserve full credit. Greetings.
+hilbertmol thanks! Indeed we here at Autogefühl are unbiased and show you whats good and whats bad about the cars, we feel thats the best we can do for you!
That was yet another fabulous review Thomas! Every question that came to my mind while watching was answered by you one after the other. Appreciate all your & your teams hard work!! Asia has still not adopted the Electric cars yet, so lets see how do manufacturers create the excitement here. May be when it gets cheaper and easy to find charging stations Asia might start buying more.
Great review, Thomas. I love your channel. I ordered the Q7 etron based on this review and after test driving XC90 225HP vs. Q7 272HP. Will arrive in 4-5 months time. About 120.000EUR in Norway (insane) ;) The Volvo XC90 was a little bit cheaper (even with ALL IN on extras + R-design) but it just did not feel as premium as the Audi. But I think the XC90 looks great from the front and is more SUV-like in the design. As you said in the review the Q7looks like a tall station wagon from side, but man... it drives like a dream! Most silent car I've ever driven and the best air suspension I've tested (much better than the Volvo). It will be a nice upgrade from my 2014 Skoda Octavia Combi :)
+Sean Smith thanks Sean, great to hear that! Is it true that the e-tron was cheaper for you then due to governmental benefits than if you'd picked a normal big engine?
+Autogefühl Yes, 272hp and 211hp made no sense with current etron promos and lower taxes for hybrids from January 1st in Norway. Unless you need 7 seats and want the lower insurance premium of a weaker car.
+Autogefühl We have taxes based on weight, emissions, NOx and effect/power (HP) + 25% VAT, but politicians want to move away from weight and engine size and towards emissions (they finally understand that a large engine does not equal huge emissions as it is not pushed to the limit). That's why every manufacturer has made downtuned versions for Norway (a lot of 211HP Q7 and Porsches and 105HP Octavias), at least until now... Less tax on the weight on hybrids is now coming: I think you can remove 26% of the cars weight in the tax calculation from 1st of January, as opposed to 15% of the weight today (so cars like XC90 and Q7 are going down about 8.000-11.000EUR), and they have less tax overall since it's also calculated based on emissions/fuel usage (and as we know these numbers are unrealistically low for hybrids with todays EU testing regime/scheme. I think this was a good time to buy Q7 before they start calculating with real numbers. Annual TAX is same as a normal diesel (330EUR) - expensive like everything else here ;)
Off-topic: I was watching some older reviews, and I have to say your English has improved massively! You seem very comfortable now! On topic: I like the exterior of the new one a lot better. Seems more in proportion now. The interior is fabulous. I think they have the balance of screen size and normal buttons right. Huge screens aren't that classy I think.
Thomas. Again one of the better reviews focusing on what Audi is attempting to do with the Technology. Once this vehicle becomes available in North America it will be a hit.
hi Thomas, i was just wondering. what do you drive. what is your choice of car for yourself? I like the way you look the car in detail and also check surfaces and materials. just wondering what would u be driving. :)
none watche your videos in HD resolution more then me, i recive your videos as a notification from TH-cam and a push email xD it's only to be the first who watche , great videos thomas (y)
hey Thomas! you are in spain in this episode ? :-) this audi hybrid modell, volvo xc90 t8, porsche cayenne s-e-hybrid; which one would you pick? vnice review :-)
+O Tempora O Mores yeah we are :) Testing the T8 again in January, have you seen our T8 piece from the pre-series model so far? th-cam.com/video/M9FN5YLVDEo/w-d-xo.html
+greg gawron hey Greg, I guess you ve already seen A4 full review th-cam.com/video/frZf_kiTfS4/w-d-xo.html and S4 static review th-cam.com/video/5qlPEPDCmZc/w-d-xo.html S4 driving review is probably up for spring/summer next year
I got one, I love it and then some :) Also I like that it is not so very fancy looking (though I think it is really good looking, more classy), it is nice to be in a subtle beast of power and technology. This review helped me decide, thank you :)
Tomás Nunes i said steering, not wheels. The etron may have four wheel drive, but the etron equipment does not leave room for the 4 wheel steering for sure. an audi engineer told me that when i asked.
please, PLEASE, stop the jingle between scenes. It is SO annoying, i really liked you reviews because they were natural, with that jingle all the time it seems like a bad car commercial.
+Macavellic thanks for the feedback, so you mean that we got driving scenes with music between some takes? Are others agreeing to this that we should leave that out ?
I'm not a fan of the short music/driving parts either, it seems unnecessary. I like the long form relaxed reviews with the camera angle staying stable and not moving every second. Some stock footage and music is nice like you have been doing earlier. Anyway, Autogefuhl is easily my favorite review channel!
Hi didn't you start with 53 km range , travel 10km and end up at 35km? The electric range doesn't seem accurate , I know they usually aren't but you seem to claim in the video that this one is
The new Q7 is a technological marvel in many ways, but it looks extremely boring. They could have got rid of the sloping roof, and widen it a bit at the D-pillar, then it would be more SUV-like.
So hard to choose between this one and the Volvo XC90... I like the Volvo's exterior way better. Less aggressive and more stylish. The interior of the Volvo is very versatile - for families - and very light and roomy in either blond or amber color. Seats are great, also massage, and the audio system is top notch. Also it is a bit cheaper to spec (base prices do not differ that much, but options make the Audi more expensive). Having said that, the Audi trumps the Volvo hands down with its air suspension, buttery smooth V6 engine and sound insulation. Which makes the Audi a magic carpet ride. Also the range of the etron is better. I believe Thomas tested Volvo at 33 km and Audi at 50 km (am I right?) which is a big difference. There are two other options as well. Wait for Audi Q5 which will also come as a plug-in and new BMW X5 also as plug-in. Both will be there at the end of this year. Maybe the new Range Rover Sport plug-in is an option, also a high driving position and presumably very silent. But owners of RR are not always as happy with reliability. The Volvo and the Audi have already gotten some years of incremental improvements. Thomas => what would you prefer, if prices would be equal? Are there any measures to make the Volvo narrow the gap with Audi in terms of comfort? The laminated windows and smaller rims perhaps? Is there difference between 2016 and 2018 models with regards to sound and comfort?
hey m8, compare our Volvo XC90 reviews here: th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=volvo+xc90+autogefuehl The T8 is a waste of money, forget the recuperation system, the car consumes fuel like hell. You can just use it if you can charge it every day at home or at work
Hi! In my country the T8 is 10.000 euro cheaper to buy than a T6. And the same price as a D5. So from that perspective it is not bad to have the T8. I love the exterior and interior, but I agree the T8 range and consumption are not that OK. I would love Volvo to give the XC90 bigger batteries. I can't charge it at home, but can charge it at work. This means half my work commute can be done electric. Until 2017 6 out of 9,2 KWH of the battery was used for the engines and about 3KWH for other stuff (like airco). The 2018 battery is now 10,4 KWH. So effectively that's +25%. Still not great, but just a few extra miles to make it home from commute. I hope to see an improved one in 2019. Maybe then I'll buy.
What is with the EXTRA SIZE GRILLE. It looks ready to suck the air from your whole street - and spew it out, as thick smog - to kill you. This car looks - "SO LAST CENTURY !"
bfff i feel this combination of small almost-useless electric power plus diesel makes no sense. More expensive, much more weight, not possible to use on normal commute, you have to care about the adblue thing. No no no. This path is a cul-de-sac. Either we get more efficient petrol engines with electric support, or 100% electric, but not this. I have enough headaches in my life to add more.
excellent review - very useful. I certainly hope we get this in the US market - a lot of us here appreciate the efficiency and longevity of diesels. When you couple that with a plug in hybrid - WOW! I presently drive a Q5 Hybrid and it is fantastic
Nice review, I noticed your English is becoming much better, which makes the videos more comfortable to watch ;)
+HSB HSB thanks appreciated
Hi Thomas, I've been watching your videos for some time now and have to say they're very informative, well-balanced and entertaining at the same time. I feel like some of the car reviews, that I watch, are not as objective as yours (maybe they're sponsored or sth). Anyway, keep doing your thing, you deserve full credit.
Greetings.
+hilbertmol thanks! Indeed we here at Autogefühl are unbiased and show you whats good and whats bad about the cars, we feel thats the best we can do for you!
That was yet another fabulous review Thomas! Every question that came to my mind while watching was answered by you one after the other. Appreciate all your & your teams hard work!!
Asia has still not adopted the Electric cars yet, so lets see how do manufacturers create the excitement here. May be when it gets cheaper and easy to find charging stations Asia might start buying more.
+Umang Goel thanks Umang!
Great review, Thomas. I love your channel.
I ordered the Q7 etron based on this review and after test driving XC90 225HP vs. Q7 272HP.
Will arrive in 4-5 months time. About 120.000EUR in Norway (insane) ;)
The Volvo XC90 was a little bit cheaper (even with ALL IN on extras + R-design) but it just did not feel as premium as the Audi. But I think the XC90 looks great from the front and is more SUV-like in the design. As you said in the review the Q7looks like a tall station wagon from side, but man... it drives like a dream! Most silent car I've ever driven and the best air suspension I've tested (much better than the Volvo). It will be a nice upgrade from my 2014 Skoda Octavia Combi :)
+Sean Smith thanks Sean, great to hear that! Is it true that the e-tron was cheaper for you then due to governmental benefits than if you'd picked a normal big engine?
+Autogefühl Yes, 272hp and 211hp made no sense with current etron promos and lower taxes for hybrids from January 1st in Norway. Unless you need 7 seats and want the lower insurance premium of a weaker car.
+Sean Smith interesting, so what benefits do you get currently? In Germany its just lower car taxes so basically nothing
+Autogefühl = the annual tax you have to pay which is like 150 euros for a petrol engine
+Autogefühl We have taxes based on weight, emissions, NOx and effect/power (HP) + 25% VAT, but politicians want to move away from weight and engine size and towards emissions (they finally understand that a large engine does not equal huge emissions as it is not pushed to the limit). That's why every manufacturer has made downtuned versions for Norway (a lot of 211HP Q7 and Porsches and 105HP Octavias), at least until now... Less tax on the weight on hybrids is now coming: I think you can remove 26% of the cars weight in the tax calculation from 1st of January, as opposed to 15% of the weight today (so cars like XC90 and Q7 are going down about 8.000-11.000EUR), and they have less tax overall since it's also calculated based on emissions/fuel usage (and as we know these numbers are unrealistically low for hybrids with todays EU testing regime/scheme. I think this was a good time to buy Q7 before they start calculating with real numbers. Annual TAX is same as a normal diesel (330EUR) - expensive like everything else here ;)
i saw it today, it looks really really good
love your reviews, but the matrixl ed light is not included. only the normal led light
Off-topic: I was watching some older reviews, and I have to say your English has improved massively! You seem very comfortable now!
On topic: I like the exterior of the new one a lot better. Seems more in proportion now. The interior is fabulous. I think they have the balance of screen size and normal buttons right. Huge screens aren't that classy I think.
+Bert Leysen thanks Bert!
Very nice review Autogefuhl. On Q7 e-tron it's available the 4 wheels steering ?
Thomas. Again one of the better reviews focusing on what Audi is attempting to do with the Technology. Once this vehicle becomes available in North America it will be a hit.
+Don Diakow ✌️🎬
hi Thomas, i was just wondering. what do you drive. what is your choice of car for yourself?
I like the way you look the car in detail and also check surfaces and materials.
just wondering what would u be driving. :)
none watche your videos in HD resolution more then me, i recive your videos as a notification from TH-cam and a push email xD it's only to be the first who watche , great videos thomas (y)
+Haithem Ksir thanks! keep supporting us!
+Autogefühl don't worry about that ;)
hey Thomas! you are in spain in this episode ? :-)
this audi hybrid modell, volvo xc90 t8, porsche cayenne s-e-hybrid; which one would you pick?
vnice review :-)
+O Tempora O Mores yeah we are :) Testing the T8 again in January, have you seen our T8 piece from the pre-series model so far? th-cam.com/video/M9FN5YLVDEo/w-d-xo.html
great review Thomas!!! when we can expect to see a review of new audi s4 b9 ???? ·
+greg gawron hey Greg, I guess you ve already seen A4 full review th-cam.com/video/frZf_kiTfS4/w-d-xo.html and S4 static review th-cam.com/video/5qlPEPDCmZc/w-d-xo.html S4 driving review is probably up for spring/summer next year
+Autogefühl Thank you
I got one, I love it and then some :)
Also I like that it is not so very fancy looking (though I think it is really good looking, more classy), it is nice to be in a subtle beast of power and technology.
This review helped me decide, thank you :)
thanks, glad we could help!
can u pls share how much diesel it consumes in normal german day to day traffic? mixed mode.
+2212red u cannot really say that, it depends on how much you are using the electric drive
+Autogefühl well, like i do 300 km a day, 30 in a city, rest motorway
Good evening, fellas. How about some words about consumption, is it possible to manage 1.7l diesel on 100 km? :)
Hi Thomas,
Great review as always :) can you please do a review also for Audi Q3 2016 model.
Thanks.
+Streambels thanks! we do have a short one here: th-cam.com/video/L8xgXtQMusM/w-d-xo.html
Very interesting vehicle indeed, thanks for the detailed review.
+James Rothwell thanks James!
btw: there is no 4 wheel steering available in the etron ;-(
are you serious?
2212red it's called quattro (four) for a reason.
Tomás Nunes i said steering, not wheels. The etron may have four wheel drive, but the etron equipment does not leave room for the 4 wheel steering for sure. an audi engineer told me that when i asked.
awesome review, thank you
+2212red thanks for watching!
Oh yeah
Very good review.
thanks keep joining us!
please, PLEASE, stop the jingle between scenes. It is SO annoying, i really liked you reviews because they were natural, with that jingle all the time it seems like a bad car commercial.
+Macavellic thanks for the feedback, so you mean that we got driving scenes with music between some takes? Are others agreeing to this that we should leave that out ?
+Autogefühl They don't really annoy me but leaving them out would be fine by me.
I'm not a fan of the short music/driving parts either, it seems unnecessary. I like the long form relaxed reviews with the camera angle staying stable and not moving every second. Some stock footage and music is nice like you have been doing earlier. Anyway, Autogefuhl is easily my favorite review channel!
Hi didn't you start with 53 km range , travel 10km and end up at 35km? The electric range doesn't seem accurate , I know they usually aren't but you seem to claim in the video that this one is
it is accurate, but of course it depends on the driving terrain and throttle input so it changes in real time
He said at the start of the driving he was at 44km range and expected to end at 34 ...
The new Q7 is a technological marvel in many ways, but it looks extremely boring. They could have got rid of the sloping roof, and widen it a bit at the D-pillar, then it would be more SUV-like.
So hard to choose between this one and the Volvo XC90...
I like the Volvo's exterior way better. Less aggressive and more stylish. The interior of the Volvo is very versatile - for families - and very light and roomy in either blond or amber color. Seats are great, also massage, and the audio system is top notch. Also it is a bit cheaper to spec (base prices do not differ that much, but options make the Audi more expensive).
Having said that, the Audi trumps the Volvo hands down with its air suspension, buttery smooth V6 engine and sound insulation. Which makes the Audi a magic carpet ride. Also the range of the etron is better. I believe Thomas tested Volvo at 33 km and Audi at 50 km (am I right?) which is a big difference.
There are two other options as well. Wait for Audi Q5 which will also come as a plug-in and new BMW X5 also as plug-in. Both will be there at the end of this year. Maybe the new Range Rover Sport plug-in is an option, also a high driving position and presumably very silent. But owners of RR are not always as happy with reliability. The Volvo and the Audi have already gotten some years of incremental improvements.
Thomas => what would you prefer, if prices would be equal? Are there any measures to make the Volvo narrow the gap with Audi in terms of comfort? The laminated windows and smaller rims perhaps? Is there difference between 2016 and 2018 models with regards to sound and comfort?
hey m8,
compare our Volvo XC90 reviews here: th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=volvo+xc90+autogefuehl
The T8 is a waste of money, forget the recuperation system, the car consumes fuel like hell. You can just use it if you can charge it every day at home or at work
Hi! In my country the T8 is 10.000 euro cheaper to buy than a T6. And the same price as a D5. So from that perspective it is not bad to have the T8. I love the exterior and interior, but I agree the T8 range and consumption are not that OK. I would love Volvo to give the XC90 bigger batteries. I can't charge it at home, but can charge it at work. This means half my work commute can be done electric. Until 2017 6 out of 9,2 KWH of the battery was used for the engines and about 3KWH for other stuff (like airco). The 2018 battery is now 10,4 KWH. So effectively that's +25%. Still not great, but just a few extra miles to make it home from commute. I hope to see an improved one in 2019. Maybe then I'll buy.
One of the selling features of full electric cars (even though this is a hybrid) for me is that the U.S. offers huge tax breaks and incentives.
nice job.....I wished to be behind the steering wheel
+mohamed specv thanks mohamed!
Did they equip the E-Tron with Run Flat Tires?
Down with cigarettes in luxury cars! If you want to light up, buy a Hyundai Accent.
What is with the EXTRA SIZE GRILLE. It looks ready to suck the air from your whole street - and spew it out, as thick smog - to kill you. This car looks - "SO LAST CENTURY !"
Good car, basically similar mechanics to the Bentley Bentayga, but a LOT cheaper and better looking... Oh and much better fuel economy!
+Clive Sinclair true
Indeed. Please dont smoke in such an expensive *FAMILY* car!
(Y)
It looks a lot smaller than the older version(s) and ugly.
I would go for Volvo's XC90 Hybrid
bfff i feel this combination of small almost-useless electric power plus diesel makes no sense. More expensive, much more weight, not possible to use on normal commute, you have to care about the adblue thing. No no no. This path is a cul-de-sac. Either we get more efficient petrol engines with electric support, or 100% electric, but not this. I have enough headaches in my life to add more.
it's ugly, the old Q7 is definitely better
Nice Joke about the emission fake xD
+Sirikazy :D
volvo xc90 anyone?
+HowieYisBored seen our latest XC90 review? th-cam.com/video/Gc4IkUU6MPE/w-d-xo.html
***** yea, i think i prefer the t8 xc90. mainly because of the beautiful exterior and those third row seats.