He may have been like her family and her best friend in one person. I can’t imagine Neo’s close to her family if they’re even still alive, the song suggests she had nobody else so maybe she was disowned? She may have been blamed for something awful that happened to a loved one
@@Riku_Sarashiki I don't think it is, it's pretty clear to me at least that her anger is directed at cinder "Vengence, Justice, Finally mine, I'll watch you fall" I feel like there is no way the use of the word fall is just a coincidence. she's just waiting for the chance to stab cinder in the back.
Ash it’s also been pretty obvious from volume 1 that Roman disliked Cinder and her minions, Neo would have noticed and pretended to not hate the shit out of them. She’s not stupid enough to take Cinder’s word for anything because Cinder is a fucking self absorbed idiot who didn’t realise Salem was using her to create distractions and help her get the relic.
Considering how Casey’s throat suffers in this music, that could be a really good rest Plus, she’s getting PAID for giggling, gasping, yelping and making other noises
Remember, the last thing neo saw before falling off the ship was Roman fighting Ruby. If neo really thought Ruby was the real reason why Roman died she would have gone after her first. Neo knows Ruby isn't a great fighter, she could take her on. But neo chose to go after cinder, because she knows cinder was the one who out Roman up to her plans.
@@depressedbreakfast2614 She didn't know where Cinder was, either. She sunk resources into getting Mama Malachite to track Cinder down for her. Meanwhile, Neo isn't stupid. She's a sociopath, but a high-functioning one--she can clearly draw lines between cause and effect. Cinder was either directly or indirectly responsible for Roman's death, depending on how you wanna look at it; Neo is almost definitely running a long con and Cinder's too arrogant to realize the buddy act is just that. Once she catches Cinder in a vulnerable position, Neo's almost certainly going to turn on her.
@@Thagesthoughts In a perfect world I agree that Neo would be the one to off Cinder for Roman's death, but given the level of plot armor Cinder seems to have and the way miles and kerry write things I doubt we'll get such a satisfying conclusion. That said It's pretty clear that the only reason Cinder survived her encounter with Neo is because she pulled the maiden power hack, without that Neo would have left Cinder dead in that alleyway.
@Cyanide Indeed, the problem is even when people call them out on it they just deflect or ignore the criticism entirely and continue on without ever trying to fix their mistakes or improve thus creating the plot whole filled cluster that is everything from volume 4 onwards, even the fight choreography dropped like a rock after Monty passed, I will admit that volume 7's fights have been more on the level with the fights of old in how well they flow, but getting fights back up to par doesn't excuse poor writing. The reason a lot of fans so heavily criticized v4 and on is that we care about the material and want to see it at its best, something Miles and Kerry clearly don't seem to care all that much about given how things have gone.
Revenge stories are a dime a dozen, but at least at the moment, this one is SO COMPELLING. I feel like the song has a hand in that. Neo can’t scream, so it screams for her.
I guess this is compelling because in most revenge stories, the characters can say how pissed or miserable they are or how much they're gonna hurt their target, but Neo can't say anything and all she can do to express her vengeful feelings is through action alone.
I think it's also a bit to do with the fact that a lot of revenge stories are deliberately billed as being petty or misguided, often targeting people who weren't actually responsible for the death of the person they cared about(e.g. a random soldier on the field when the person actually to blame is whoever put their loved one in that position), whereas Neo is fixated not on Ruby or the random Grimm, who were more *directly* involved in Roman's death, but on Cinder, who was responsible for his being in a position to be killed at all. It's not misguided, it's not petty. Cinder used Roman like a disposable pawn and Neo is *pissed*. So the story's a lot more cathartic because the narrative isn't undercutting it with "owo revenge is so bad right?" or with "dramatic irony" where we know the character they've fixated on is the wrong one but, alas, the character *doesn't*. It's pure and simple. Cinder got Roman killed, and Neo wants her blood.
"Then a candle's flame brought a brand new name" "After years of suffering I finally had a place called home" Seems like the headcanon that Neo was an orphan is about to come true.
@@JLo-qp7dw Yes you do actually, there have been like 1 or 2 documented cases where someone was abondoned in the wild and cut off from all human contact, and so never learned to speak. They couldn't even be taught after the fact. As horrible as these events are, they have at least given us a better understanding of how the brain works.
My brain hurts. This video took so much longer than it should have to make because of multiple issues I had with software, editing, and uploading. It's out now though, and that's all that matters!
FlyntofRWBY amazing work as usual. There’s a typo in the video name tho lol. You wrote case instead of Casey. We’re all human :) keep up the good work!!
She probably WOULD have killed her if cinder didn't bust out maiden powers. She might actually know what maidens are seeing her reaction to Raven in vol 2. Either that or she knows Raven as the bandit queen.
Garrett kiley I don’t think Cinder even convinced her. But she overpowered Neo with the maiden powers (not literally but she flexed to make her point) so Neo knows she’s going to have to play a longer game and strike Cinder down at the perfect opportunity
@@rizizum Unfortunately no, I'm sorry it is probably just her character trait, though you have to admit, people would be drawn to a person who doesn't talk a lot but has a good motivation for some of her objectives to come.
Never forget: Miles and Kerry once said that Neo is far more dangerous without Roman I cannot wait to see her turn tweener on Cinder and get the perma kill on her
roman as much of a jovial jackass he was he really cared for neo when he thought she was done for after falling off the ship thanks to ruby's meddling now without roman to be that emotional crutch neo needed we have a pissed off mighty mouse of a micro queen who's trained to kill and be that as it may for the time being her blade is sheathed but its still aimed at cinder poised for attack at any time
@@keitafanskwangya well from what we know neo can definitely hold her own in a fight provided no one interferes and thanks to her shattered glass semblance she's able to do mind games abit both of which are very formidable plus she's not stupid (didn't say you called her stupid just thought i throw that out there) she's just playing lil miss good girl till the time is right like any trained assassin would
This song gave Neo more development than she had in the show. Now I love her even more. I hope the show catches up with her character development in V7, I would love to see her become a more fleshed-out character!
That's literally all of rwby lol. Even in the early days, the songs have a thousand times more development than the show, but now that the show has completely crumbled, they're the only thing left of the show I started watching back before V3 even released
@@kishinslayer2228 I disagree, I think the show is still going strong despite its flaws. In fact, I'd say character writing has almost gotten _stronger_ since Volume 2, and especially Volume 1. Most of the character arcs in there were, when looked at critically, actually pretty badly done.
@@kishinslayer2228 can we get one comment about characters in RWBY without someone going "Actually, the show is bad!" Like thanks can we let people enjoy things now?
@@guicaldo7164 Stronger? Yeah, no. The writing in volume 4 was boring exposition. Volume 5 was the same and just drew everything out for way too long (They did literally nothing) and volume 6 started off strong then completely flatlined. Maria was thrown in to explain silver eyes cause they couldn't find another way of doing it, the rival between the two old ladies was awful, the Atlas military was a joke, Atlas itself is flying for some reason (despite the fact that we've seen Atlas multiple times. Another shoehorn Miles and Kerry threw in) and let's not forget the "We're sorry we messed up, here's bumblebee" I'm still gonna watch V7. But it's not because I'm excited. It's because I want to watch it burn like every other season after 1 and 2. (With the exception of the fights in 3)
@@your_dar_ling Thank you! I was criticizing one aspect of the show, but in a "I still love it and I hope they improve it further", not in a "it sucks" type of way. But of course a bunch of haters would need to put a wrench in there... No one hates RWBY as much as RWBY fans.
@@taistealai5523 I've watched everything already. Definitely cried a lot but mostly in volume 5 (seeing my fav girls develop and reunite) and volume 6 (the statue scene hits way too hard). V3 was just me being shocked over and over and over... too cruel
@@ImpossibleCarl69 yeah the Internet kinda exploded when Volume 3 happened, I personally always had the feeling the show was going to get dark eventually but even I was shocked at how grim the last chunk of Volume 3 got. One of my favorite arcs in any show ever, it was masterfully executed.
This life is mine made me start watching RWBY. Best decision I've made in my entire pathetic existence. When I typed pathetic, right next to it on the little bar of words was apathetic. Heh
Well Grimm don't need to eat so I'm guessing they don't digest, so as dark as it is once that griffin died I'm assuming that romans corpse was just kinda...there, and it would make sense that Neo would head back to the ship to try and find Roman
@@zxshadowxz The ship also crashed and burned, with many explosions. I doubt there was much left. My thought on it was that she got a similar hat for herself as a "silent" tribute. It seemed to fit her head pretty well.
Honestly it makes me pity her. How much does your life have to suck and how little value do you have in yourself where you have to place your own reason for living strictly on one scumbag who was nice to you? Honestly a mercy kill would be a kindness for someone like Neo. All her skill and talent and she's still this broken mess inside.
I don't disagree that's mostly why she's here, but I'll be honest, it was to be expected. They have to make these character by scratch (thou I'm not justifying waiting so long for another RWBY character) and with most of the others they wanted the whole team/group People said they wanted JNRP (I hope I got it right) but in reality it was really just they wanted Pyrrha, they just felt if you brought her you might as well bring the other three (Not to say some didn't legit wanted all four, but it's mostly for the golden girl) Qrow has the whole Vic issue going on right now so he's no go, and people are gonna want Raven to come along with him. And if Raven is here, people will expect Cinder as well. So that's a whole issue Really, the only likely choices at the moment would have been Neo or Adam, they are the only people practical enough to make completely on their own and not face backlash like the last time But that's just my guess
apparently from these lyrics Roman gave Neo her name, which makes me cry and I'm to the point that I'm expecting our favorite Mary Poppins ice cream midget to backstab Cinder both literally and figuratively
Gaymer Girl Theory: Neo came from an abusive household but then eventually was put into into the system. Kids would be mean and bully her for not being able to talk (most likely due to trauma) and being shorter, so she runs away. Left starving on the streets she awakens her semblance to imitate the appearance of a merchants daughter so she could snag some food, however not yet mastering it wears off pretty quickly. Running from the police she runs into Roman who saves and see her potential.
DM: A small neopolitan coloured girl walks up to you. Cinder: Neo??? DM: The girl grows giant Grimm scales/horns and enormous FLAMING black wings sprout from her back. These are followed by sharp, monstrous, serrated teeth. Her arms grow into giant snakes that are also rocket launchers. Scythes and spikes rise from the ground around her. The girl also grows to be 30x your size, and releases a bellowing, deafening screech which smells oddly of ice cream. *Roll initiative bitch.*
God... This shows how much Roman meant to Neo - he was her one light, her one friend. She had no one else and because of Cinder's mission and alliance with Salem - that's gone
Jeff has stated that his lyrics can foreshadow events in future volumes of RWBY. These lyrics mean we're either gonna get a flashback or a Neo character short trailer in a future volume.
@@NecessaryNonsense990 For once, I'd have to agree. Usually it's the same ol' skip minor details. But RWBY changes that since you actually need to do research to understand what exactly is happening.
Well it probably won't be a character short. They've denounced future character shorts at this year's NYCC, claiming to rather spend the effort on the show itself instead. Given that volume 6 was awesome even though it had character shorts, the show will likely benefit greatly from the additional attention.
Personally, I would love to see Roman come back as one of Neo's illusions. Just imagine: one day Roman shows up inexplicably and accuses Ruby of murdering him. They fight, but as soon as Roman is hit he shatters and his hat falls to the ground. Neo steps out of the shadows to pick up the hat and hands it to a newly formed Roman illusion. Roman continues to speak but the camera focuses on Neo, indicating that she is speaking through the illusion. Granted I don't know if Neo's illusions can make sound, but it could be an interesting way to bring Roman back without truly resurrecting him and give Neo a way to speak at the same time.
I'd be hard-pressed to say that Neo can't use her illusions to talk. If she could do that, she would have done so by now. Why would she purposely not use her semblance to talk if she's capable? Sure you can argue that Neo doesn't have to talk in most scenarios, but when discussing things with Torchwick or Cinder, you'd think she would want to say something instead of making them guess based on her facial expressions. That being said, why she doesn't use her semblance to create illusions of written words to convey her feelings is questionable to. In RWBY Chibi she just communicates with a bunch of signs with words on them, but Neo can freely make illusions so why not make illusions of signs? And don't tell me she can't make illusions of objects because in the most recent volume, Neo turned her umbrella into a briefcase.
@@amberknight7301 I was more viewing it as a potential evolution of her ability. When she shows up again she demonstrates the ability to make fully functional clones that she can control from a great distance without even having to see them, something she was never seen to have done before. Clones that can talk could be the next progression from that. Also, I just really liked Torchwick's character. Pity they had to kill him.
@@cunningsmile4166 I'm aware of that. But, given how much her abilities developed in the seasons she was absent, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to suppose that her illusions could eventually make sound for her.
@@crow464 I mean she's a villain, she's gonna die eventually. Besides, with THREE people after her, it'll be VERY hard for her to live through the end of the story.
*Megalovania* Cinder: Wait... Why do I hear double boss music? *You feel like you're going to have a bad time. Perhaps with a side of mute.* Cinder: Oh.. Shit. Oh shit. OH SHI- *You've been struck.* Cinder: Ac-! *You've been impaled by a sword and a dozen bones.* *You feel as if you're boned.* Cinder: I am the Fall Maiden, I cannot be bested so eas-! ACK! *KARMA kicks in. Retribution for your involvement. You've been struck with the Status Effect: FEAR* *Acute pain strikes across your back as your aura fails to protect your spine from being severed by a thin sword.* Cinder: AC-! *Your cries have been cut off by a deafening charge. Suddenly, a blast takes over your vision as you are put through agony.* *All that is left is a cane, Melodic Cugel, as a glove picks it up. It was a man in a white... trenchcoat?* *You realize that Roman is back.* Roman: You had a bad time. *Blue eye flares*
@@echosongtheshadowclanwarri578 With how many "Papyrus gets revenge" AUs I've seen in my one year of being in the fandom, that makes sense. One year literally 15 AUs based off this concept alone. My god they multiply like rabbits
From neglected and abused Trivia Vanille to the free-spirited Neapolitan. Roman was the only person who cared about her and she in turn was absolutely loyal to him. She didn't care about crime, only living as she pleased. Roman made things fun, but now she lost the reason to live.
A criminal and guilty of felony murder for her part in attack on Beacon as it does not matter if you kill yourself just if you help. so she is evil not the most evil person but certainly evil as she does not care who dies.
@@milferdjones2573Considering that nobody but Torchwick ever cared if she died, that's an understandable mindset. She spent her entire life being abused and neglected by her parents then persecuted by everyone else for being mute
I swear people fail to realize the attack on Beacon wasn't even their MOs if you actually pay attention Roman and Neo are mostly small time criminals or mercs more than anything or higher tier organized crime. Before they realized just who and what they working for they had planned to leave after the first job Roman even hints at this in an earlier season. Than Cinder shows up and he realizes he can't leave his usual out is gone and with it the realization that this is more than the jobs he usually took@@milferdjones2573
Yesss our man has blessed us with the lyrics. This song is sooo amazing but also is so sad for Neo. I love the references with "A candle's flame" Torch (flame) Wick (candle part) Jeff and Casey are so amazing like GAH
@@Wolfeson28 yeah, I'm wondering if that means Neo had a different name?? What's her back story?? Where does Roman come into play?? It says lost without a voice, does that mean she only spoke to Roman?? This song raises so many questions and makes me all the more curious about Neo!
@@True-Awkwardness Agreed. I hope they expand on Neo and Torchwick's backstory at some point. Probably not something the main series would spend much time with, but it sounds like a good candidate for a future novella.
very understandable she's pissed all to hell and back, Roman was really the only one that cared for her and didn't cast her aside. also great freaking work Flynt you always deliver man ^_^
Here is my Character Theory/Analysis: "Lost without a voice and on my own. Then a candle's flame brought a brand new name" - Candle = Candle being an allusion to Roman Torchwick and his entrance into her life - Flame = The term "flame" could be a double entendre seeing as "Flame" is also a word for a passionate, but oft short-lived past love. In the same way fire's prolonged exposure to its ignition source creates a greater "flame", the prolonged relationship between the two created something "more". - A brand new name: As suspected, Neo is probably *not* her original name seeing as "Neo" also means "New" (if we excuse the "Politan" surname), I'm supposing her "New" name refers to the escape from her old, seemingly drudging for the new, excited life with roman (For all you Brunswick Theorists) which, if we went that route, would in turn assume that Roman was *not* a relative but perhaps a newcomer who happened to stay with the family and enticed her to a life of crime, drawing her from the farm (or whatever life she lived prior). This theory is countered, however, with the following line: - "After years of suffering finally had a place to go" I'm assuming this means whatever previous life she has (Brunswick or not), it was a pain-filled one, which gave her further reasons to follow Roman who probably saved her and/or enticed her, this gaining an unbreakable loyalty to him, and, of course, a new name. - Having thrust her entire identity into Roman's persona, she has no one and nothing left, and is as empty now as she was in her life before. - Also, I genuinely believe these are the words Neo is actually saying in her heart, or perhaps the sentiment of them, despite having the ability to verbally depict them. - Just a side note: Having read the comments, the orphan theory seems like a promising route. Furthermore, Neo, like Nora, is also presented as an orphan and was possibly rejected from her people or maybe the sole survivor of a Grimm attack to her people. Could there be some sort of correlation there? Some food for thought. Final words: Does she really believe Cinder's idea that it was Ruby's fault? Perhaps, seeing as Roman wasn't *exactly* a fan of her either (which makes Neo not a fan of her as well). However, neither of the girls actually saw him die, and, knowing Neo, any purpose she serves is to first Roman then herself. And since Roman is out of the picture…
Well I don't think Neo really believes what Cinder said about Ruby. I see more as a means to an end. My theory is that she is teaming up with Cinder just long enough, to earn her trust, to let her guard down, and then she's going to stab her in the back. Though that probably won't stop Neo from trying to kill Ruby, like you said Roman hated her and she did as well because of him. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
I've loved Neo as a character since I first saw her, from her design, to her character, her sheer badassery. Then after Roman got eaten, she just kinda disappeared. She popped up in Chibi here and there, and of course I went nuts over that, but as volumes passed without Neo, I kept wondering what she was up to. I see her come back, I hear this theme playing and there are no words for the number of backflips my heart did. Neo, as the fucking mute, probably has some of the best character development aside from say... Cinder, or Jaune, or maybe Weiss/Yang.. Seriously, I love this girl, she's a wild trip.
The moment i saw the umbrella in her fight scene with cinder... i knew cinder was dead. She is my favorite character, the most badass, and i cant count how many times i have rewatched that scene.
Well, either Neo kills Ruby, or Ruby convinces Neo that Roman was killed by a Grimm. It could also be that Neo dies, but I doubt Ruby would want that. So yeah, Neo´s likely going to turn on Cinder at some point, and seeing how she can hold her own against a maiden, I guess Cinder will be doomed. Especially now that Cinder doesn´t cover her Grimm arm anymore, meaning that Ruby can see how she can get an advantage over her. What I´m wondering is: How will Ruby react when Neo decides to kill Cinder? Will her "I protect all life" mentality make her try and convince Neo not to do it? How would Jaune react to that? Honestly, re-introducing Neo to the plot was one of the best things the show staff did so far, if you ask me.
@@Kartoffelkamm "Seeing how she ca hold her own against a maiden I guess Cinder is doomed" Except that Cinder wasn't using her Maiden powers at full capacity inside the building, and as soon as they got outside and she displayed more of it, Neo backed down. Neo is no pushover by any means, but if Cinder fought her like she did against Raven, Neo is at disadvantage even with her impressive Semblance. If Neo gets the drop on Cnder it'll have to be by a surprise attack when Cinder is distracted by Ruby. I'm guessing they'll fight RWBY in Atlas and Cinder loses her grimm arm to Ruby, and that's when Neo attacks her (assuming the icecream midget isn't distracted by Yang that is) That being said, I'm certain she wants revenge on Ruby too. She was the last person seen with Roman after all and Ruby was the reason they got separated in the first place. But then again, if Roman had used even an ounce of braincells, he would've waited for Ruby to get inside the airship and try to get the drop on her that way, in a confined area where she can't utilize her scythe or Semblance to the fullest, instead of getting out of the ship where there's hundreds of Grimm ready to dive down on them.
As a certain doctor once said "evil is relative. Most things are just hungry. And hunger looks like evil from the wrong end of the cutlery" Being hungry for revenge doesn't make you evil
I honestly hope there is a Cesar moment where all the people Cinder has wronged gets a stab in..... preferably starting with Neo getting that first surprise back stab followed up by a front stab from Jaune and a neck slash from Ruby
Brian Durio I don’t think Ruby would approve of this much violence Then again, it’s Cinder Cinder needs to take notes from Dark Souls III’s Soul of Cinder on how to be Cinder Has every ounce of character that this Cinder never had or will have
@@alisova8365 She can't talk. But breathing makes some sound, and she can do that, and particularly sharp breaths, like a gasp, are audible, if barely.
I feel so bad for her. I was so hyped to hear about vengeance and instead, I heard about her literal one friend, how depressing she has nothing left to live for, really...
I mean all he does is upload copyrighted material putting barely any effort into editing and dedication but if that's what you call great then I guess the standards for becoming a creator on TH-cam are really low for you.
Yeah Torchwick has always just been an asshole criminal, no worse than any average thug who leads a group of robbers. He's not committed to ending the world like Cinder is. Same as Mercury and Emerald in that way
Roman was her best buddy and partner for life. He saw her potential and loyalty. Neo loved her dumdum for making things fun and enjoyed making their outfits.
Now that V9 is out, I decided to rewatch all of RWBY from the beginning. And I have been reminded of One Thing: Neo is one hell of a fighter. Has to be one of the best combatants in the whole series.
She is absolutely one of the most skilled, but she's not very adaptable. She excels against people who fight hand-to-hand, with short-reach weapons, or slow/predictable weapons; at the same time she struggles against people with fast, long-reach weapons due to her lack of any kind of ranged attack
Definitely, Cinder was still recovering, so bit of a pass, but Neo had her on the back foot that entire fight until Cinder broke out the Maiden powers. Neo's fights are always fun to watch because she's so much better than basically everyone else, she just spends the whole fight almost toying with them...Raven is the only person I remember her actually retreating from.
I think that Neo blames Cinder 100% and doesn't really blame Ruby at all. After all, Neo and Roman were trying to kill her at the time, and as a professional, Neo would understand that Ruby was simply defending herself. However, it was all Cinder's plan and planning that got Roman killed, so it's Cinder's fault.
I sort of doubt Roman is actually dead. When he was ate by the nevermore it swallowed him hole, how would Neo have the hat? Plus in one of the books (I forgot exactly which character it was) was swallowed by a Grimm And cut it open from the inside. So Roman could just blow it open from the inside with his cane. Also The nevermore that ate Roman if you look at the scene as the airship is blowing up you see the one that supposedly ate Roman flying away.
V9E8 spoilers: “What a sweet release when you rest in peace Vengeance, justice finally mine and I’ll watch you fall” She watched her fall, alright…but it seemed to be anything but a sweet release.
YEEEEEEEEEEES. That battle between Neo and Cinder was awesome, and this song in the background really gives the fight more of a punch... Thank you for this!
And if anyone wondered that Neo and Roman really cared for each other.... If this doesn't scream: "You killed most important person in my life!" i don"t know what would.
I love and hate this particular artwork piece On one hand if perfectly captures her emotions at the time and dear lord don't get me started on that beauty of a background and oh lord that RAIN! on the other hand she is holding her umbrella, while it's raining, and it's closed.
Yeah, I don't make any money off of TH-cam, so I have a full-time job that I work. Then there were a couple technical problems I experienced that delayed this even further. Sadly only could get one video out today because of that. I also work tomorrow, but I shouldn't experience any technical problems, so you can expect me to have at least 1 or 2 more videos out.
Finally, no battle noises! ... Also, this song is so deep... I never thought Neo would be so deep. This is still probably my favorite song from the series so far!
He was the only person she loved in any sense; there was deep trust and companionship with the duo of thieves. He was her dumdum and equal partners in crime. Neo loved the thrill of crime Roman brought
I'll add in to your theory with some of Roman's final words : "It's not what I have to gain, Red. It's that i can't afford to lose." "You can't stop 'em, I can't stop 'em. You know what they say, If you can't Beat 'em, Join 'em"
I think that it would fall in line with Cinder to not remember Raven’s warning of “Always watch your back” and Neo will get a really good hit in on her but one that wasn’t strong enough which is where a fight would ensue
well while i would love that there is this one thing that miles said long long ago "she will do something that'll make the fans hate her" which sound foreboding as hell for someone that was (at that time) just introduced its been speculated that neo might kill one of the rwby girls given roman's playful lil hate boner he had for ruby i would hypothesize a healthy guess neo will kill ruby at one point and cause a seething tidal wave of hate from the fanbase for it
@@RamonxMystiere. I was thinking something along the lines of betraying Cinder, then sneaking off and start trying to kill off RWBY, but then she has a change of heart and decides to leave them alone. Then she starts doing her own thing and that leads into her starting to help the cast and turn her life around.
As long as she don't touch jaune, nora or ren, I'm 100% ok with what she will do (I don't think she will kill a main cast, but maybe qrow or winter, since it's atlas arc)
Just for everyone who says neo has a voice actor, yes it is true neo's voice actor is cassey. Despite the fact neo doesn't sing someone must at least have done her slight grunts and giggles.
![RWBY: Neo vs Cinder [Full scene]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nXdtjWZg4ms/mqdefault.jpg)
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I just wanna say thank you like oh my god yes I've been waiting ages for this. The art is beautifully done if the artist sees this.
Fantastic job as usual, Flynt! FYI, you misspelled Casey’s name in the video title.
Nice haruhi username
@@cylasbreakdown6140 Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'm tired, so I didn't even notice that.
The prodigal son/daughter returns!
I love how this song represents how much Roman meant to Neo. If anything, I would never get on her bad side.
Too bad her anger is misplaced.
He may have been like her family and her best friend in one person. I can’t imagine Neo’s close to her family if they’re even still alive, the song suggests she had nobody else so maybe she was disowned? She may have been blamed for something awful that happened to a loved one
Well, she's one of the most skilled fighters shown so far, so yeah that'd be a bad idea.
@@Riku_Sarashiki I don't think it is, it's pretty clear to me at least that her anger is directed at cinder
"Vengence, Justice, Finally mine, I'll watch you fall"
I feel like there is no way the use of the word fall is just a coincidence. she's just waiting for the chance to stab cinder in the back.
Ash it’s also been pretty obvious from volume 1 that Roman disliked Cinder and her minions, Neo would have noticed and pretended to not hate the shit out of them. She’s not stupid enough to take Cinder’s word for anything because Cinder is a fucking self absorbed idiot who didn’t realise Salem was using her to create distractions and help her get the relic.
Fun fact: When Neo makes noises, like yelps and tchs and stuff, she’s actually voiced by Casey Lee Williams herself!
Wasn't that just for bbtag?
Yep. Knew that
@STK Sonic yeah but that was way before neo got into bbtag so I have no clue casey voiced that
Considering how Casey’s throat suffers in this music, that could be a really good rest
Plus, she’s getting PAID for giggling, gasping, yelping and making other noises
i NEEDED TO LEARN THAT! THANK YOU!
Remember, the last thing neo saw before falling off the ship was Roman fighting Ruby.
If neo really thought Ruby was the real reason why Roman died she would have gone after her first.
Neo knows Ruby isn't a great fighter, she could take her on.
But neo chose to go after cinder, because she knows cinder was the one who out Roman up to her plans.
must snip and I’m not sure she knew where ruby was so she went after cinder first
@@depressedbreakfast2614 She didn't know where Cinder was, either. She sunk resources into getting Mama Malachite to track Cinder down for her. Meanwhile, Neo isn't stupid. She's a sociopath, but a high-functioning one--she can clearly draw lines between cause and effect. Cinder was either directly or indirectly responsible for Roman's death, depending on how you wanna look at it; Neo is almost definitely running a long con and Cinder's too arrogant to realize the buddy act is just that. Once she catches Cinder in a vulnerable position, Neo's almost certainly going to turn on her.
@@Thagesthoughts In a perfect world I agree that Neo would be the one to off Cinder for Roman's death, but given the level of plot armor Cinder seems to have and the way miles and kerry write things I doubt we'll get such a satisfying conclusion. That said It's pretty clear that the only reason Cinder survived her encounter with Neo is because she pulled the maiden power hack, without that Neo would have left Cinder dead in that alleyway.
I think a possibility is that neo thought ruby died after torchwick, so she went after cinder first.
@Cyanide Indeed, the problem is even when people call them out on it they just deflect or ignore the criticism entirely and continue on without ever trying to fix their mistakes or improve thus creating the plot whole filled cluster that is everything from volume 4 onwards, even the fight choreography dropped like a rock after Monty passed, I will admit that volume 7's fights have been more on the level with the fights of old in how well they flow, but getting fights back up to par doesn't excuse poor writing. The reason a lot of fans so heavily criticized v4 and on is that we care about the material and want to see it at its best, something Miles and Kerry clearly don't seem to care all that much about given how things have gone.
Revenge stories are a dime a dozen, but at least at the moment, this one is SO COMPELLING. I feel like the song has a hand in that. Neo can’t scream, so it screams for her.
I guess this is compelling because in most revenge stories, the characters can say how pissed or miserable they are or how much they're gonna hurt their target, but Neo can't say anything and all she can do to express her vengeful feelings is through action alone.
Honestly the music of this show is where all the best character moments are
I think it's also a bit to do with the fact that a lot of revenge stories are deliberately billed as being petty or misguided, often targeting people who weren't actually responsible for the death of the person they cared about(e.g. a random soldier on the field when the person actually to blame is whoever put their loved one in that position), whereas Neo is fixated not on Ruby or the random Grimm, who were more *directly* involved in Roman's death, but on Cinder, who was responsible for his being in a position to be killed at all. It's not misguided, it's not petty. Cinder used Roman like a disposable pawn and Neo is *pissed*. So the story's a lot more cathartic because the narrative isn't undercutting it with "owo revenge is so bad right?" or with "dramatic irony" where we know the character they've fixated on is the wrong one but, alas, the character *doesn't*. It's pure and simple. Cinder got Roman killed, and Neo wants her blood.
We all scream for ice cream
@@ThatIrishLass Neo is going to have ice cream sprinkled with the blood and ashes (cinders) of her remains
"Then a candle's flame brought a brand new name"
"After years of suffering I finally had a place called home"
Seems like the headcanon that Neo was an orphan is about to come true.
If that's the case, then it would make sense how Neo is unable to speak (since no one taught her how).
Adni Aquila Im pretty sure you don't need to be taught how to speak. She can understand languages so that doesn't make sense XD
I'd enjoy it if our headcanons became, , , well, canon
That was my headcanon. So I'd like that a lot
@@JLo-qp7dw
Yes you do actually, there have been like 1 or 2 documented cases where someone was abondoned in the wild and cut off from all human contact, and so never learned to speak.
They couldn't even be taught after the fact. As horrible as these events are, they have at least given us a better understanding of how the brain works.
So, basically, Neo sings her own songs, despite being mute
*that’s fucking brilliant*
It makes it even more cool when you learn that the Casey is Neo's voice (sound?) Actress.
What do you think is going on in her head?
probably revenge for Roman has seen throughout season 6-8
Ikr
Singing in her head
My brain hurts. This video took so much longer than it should have to make because of multiple issues I had with software, editing, and uploading. It's out now though, and that's all that matters!
Thank you so much for the work you put in for the community
Thank you so much! Also nice reference to another RWBY song that made me cry.
FlyntofRWBY amazing work as usual. There’s a typo in the video name tho lol. You wrote case instead of Casey. We’re all human :) keep up the good work!!
Thanks for the work you put in these videos!
This was dope, thanks for making it.
Neo. The most adorable badass killing quiet smol best girl
Amen brother
Like i say she and the META would be good friends
@@inquisitorsteve1429 I can actually see that happening of it does both team rwby and cinder are screwed
BREAKING NEWS:
Angry Mute Woman with Umbrella Massacres an entire crowd
Lol
Well, close, but seems Tyrian got that job.
We gave her ice cream, she's calm now and she's sorry so we're forgiving her
@@lastpringle8904 remember to give her back the Roman aswell, cuz the ice scream won't work for long
@@hmmmmmm8769 I got the dragon radar and I'm looking for the Dragon Balls as we speak
Before listening to this song: I really dont know if Neo is going to betray Cinder or not.
After listening to this song: Cinder is died.
Well it can depend if she blames Ruby or Cinder for Roman's death.
Yeah, when Ruby tells Neo that Roman was killed by a Grimm, Cinder is screwed.
She probably WOULD have killed her if cinder didn't bust out maiden powers.
She might actually know what maidens are seeing her reaction to Raven in vol 2. Either that or she knows Raven as the bandit queen.
I’d say she will since it is cinders fault torchwick is dead
Garrett kiley I don’t think Cinder even convinced her. But she overpowered Neo with the maiden powers (not literally but she flexed to make her point) so Neo knows she’s going to have to play a longer game and strike Cinder down at the perfect opportunity
2:08 When you kill that mosquito that's been bothering you for twenty minutes straight 😂
Dammit, now that's the only thing I'll ever be able to hear every time I kill a Mosquito, lmao.
@@FlyntofRWBY you're welcome 😭
Me. At this very moment. You're awesome
FlyntofRWBY you say that like it’s a bad thing.
So Saitama.
I love how a mute person gets the most badass song out of every other character
Even better she technically sings it as Casey Lee Williams is technically her voice actor
She's not mute, she just really doesn't talk, only laugh or make sounds or something. It's confirmed by Grey Haddock
thats not true some of all the other rwby characters get baddass song like yang,qrow and even blake
@@kimjoromo3519 Is there a reason for it? I would appreciate a link too, if it's not too much to ask
@@rizizum Unfortunately no, I'm sorry it is probably just her character trait, though you have to admit, people would be drawn to a person who doesn't talk a lot but has a good motivation for some of her objectives to come.
Was expecting 3.44 minutes of instrumental but ok
The title literally says "with lyrics"
@Miya I see what you did there 😉😎
Joel Hernandez At least you got the joke 😂😂
Oh, looking at it again I get what you meant, rip me.
I imagine an angry neo writing down the lyrics then she just hands it to yang to sing for her.
Never forget:
Miles and Kerry once said that Neo is far more dangerous without Roman
I cannot wait to see her turn tweener on Cinder and get the perma kill on her
roman as much of a jovial jackass he was he really cared for neo when he thought she was done for after falling off the ship thanks to ruby's meddling now without roman to be that emotional crutch neo needed we have a pissed off mighty mouse of a micro queen who's trained to kill and be that as it may for the time being her blade is sheathed but its still aimed at cinder poised for attack at any time
Despite Ruby and Raven doing their best, it wasnt enough. Hopefully Neo will snap and deliver Cinder's final blow, like Iplease
@@keitafanskwangya well from what we know neo can definitely hold her own in a fight provided no one interferes and thanks to her shattered glass semblance she's able to do mind games abit both of which are very formidable plus she's not stupid (didn't say you called her stupid just thought i throw that out there) she's just playing lil miss good girl till the time is right like any trained assassin would
@@RamonxMystiere. Holy run on sentence... lol
But you're right. Neo is my favorite character and I'm so excited to see her in the next volume.
I could see her and cinder confronting rwbys gang. Than stabs cinder?
Not even the ice cream midget could escape from crossing fate.
"Ice cream midget"
*Neopolitan will remember that*
Well regardless, she'll give anyone a taste of a spoonful of sugar and some medicine to go down like Mary poppins used to say
I believe the term your looking for is “Ice Cream Loli”
@@jsdotigboigamer *looks at boobs*
Don't think Loli fits her lol.
@@thebravegallade731 Yeah, loli usually just applies to height.
Bro you are a G O D for making a lyric video despite how busy you are.
Hi Neo
Truly
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@Neopolitan wait you can't talk
@@squirtlett7369 but she can write
This song gave Neo more development than she had in the show. Now I love her even more. I hope the show catches up with her character development in V7, I would love to see her become a more fleshed-out character!
That's literally all of rwby lol. Even in the early days, the songs have a thousand times more development than the show, but now that the show has completely crumbled, they're the only thing left of the show I started watching back before V3 even released
@@kishinslayer2228 I disagree, I think the show is still going strong despite its flaws. In fact, I'd say character writing has almost gotten _stronger_ since Volume 2, and especially Volume 1. Most of the character arcs in there were, when looked at critically, actually pretty badly done.
@@kishinslayer2228 can we get one comment about characters in RWBY without someone going "Actually, the show is bad!" Like thanks can we let people enjoy things now?
@@guicaldo7164 Stronger? Yeah, no. The writing in volume 4 was boring exposition. Volume 5 was the same and just drew everything out for way too long (They did literally nothing) and volume 6 started off strong then completely flatlined. Maria was thrown in to explain silver eyes cause they couldn't find another way of doing it, the rival between the two old ladies was awful, the Atlas military was a joke, Atlas itself is flying for some reason (despite the fact that we've seen Atlas multiple times. Another shoehorn Miles and Kerry threw in) and let's not forget the "We're sorry we messed up, here's bumblebee"
I'm still gonna watch V7. But it's not because I'm excited. It's because I want to watch it burn like every other season after 1 and 2. (With the exception of the fights in 3)
@@your_dar_ling Thank you! I was criticizing one aspect of the show, but in a "I still love it and I hope they improve it further", not in a "it sucks" type of way. But of course a bunch of haters would need to put a wrench in there...
No one hates RWBY as much as RWBY fans.
This song deadass made me start watching RWBY
I have no regrets.
RWBY music will do that :P
Good for you,you'll probably start crying after volume 3
Hold on
*CRIED*
@@taistealai5523 I've watched everything already. Definitely cried a lot but mostly in volume 5 (seeing my fav girls develop and reunite) and volume 6 (the statue scene hits way too hard). V3 was just me being shocked over and over and over... too cruel
@@ImpossibleCarl69 yeah the Internet kinda exploded when Volume 3 happened, I personally always had the feeling the show was going to get dark eventually but even I was shocked at how grim the last chunk of Volume 3 got. One of my favorite arcs in any show ever, it was masterfully executed.
This life is mine made me start watching RWBY. Best decision I've made in my entire pathetic existence. When I typed pathetic, right next to it on the little bar of words was apathetic. Heh
She Protec
She Attac
But Most Importantly
She Got Dat Hat Bac
She stabb Cinder in de bacc
She Protec
She Attac
But Most Importantly
she wants roman back :,(
That's A GOOD POINT... How the truck DID she get that hat back?
Well Grimm don't need to eat so I'm guessing they don't digest, so as dark as it is once that griffin died I'm assuming that romans corpse was just kinda...there, and it would make sense that Neo would head back to the ship to try and find Roman
@@zxshadowxz The ship also crashed and burned, with many explosions. I doubt there was much left.
My thought on it was that she got a similar hat for herself as a "silent" tribute. It seemed to fit her head pretty well.
When she said “you sent me back to nothing” I felt that. That one line tells you how much Roman really mattered to her whole existence.
Honestly it makes me pity her. How much does your life have to suck and how little value do you have in yourself where you have to place your own reason for living strictly on one scumbag who was nice to you? Honestly a mercy kill would be a kindness for someone like Neo. All her skill and talent and she's still this broken mess inside.
Imagine being so popular you get added to a cross over game instead of any of the other heroes.
I don't disagree that's mostly why she's here, but I'll be honest, it was to be expected. They have to make these character by scratch (thou I'm not justifying waiting so long for another RWBY character) and with most of the others they wanted the whole team/group
People said they wanted JNRP (I hope I got it right) but in reality it was really just they wanted Pyrrha, they just felt if you brought her you might as well bring the other three (Not to say some didn't legit wanted all four, but it's mostly for the golden girl)
Qrow has the whole Vic issue going on right now so he's no go, and people are gonna want Raven to come along with him. And if Raven is here, people will expect Cinder as well. So that's a whole issue
Really, the only likely choices at the moment would have been Neo or Adam, they are the only people practical enough to make completely on their own and not face backlash like the last time
But that's just my guess
@@narutoboy423but now people will want Roman because of Neo
@@lionelk.y7233 Well lemme phrase it like this, the two characters that will receive the least amount of Backlash if a partner/group isn't with them
@@narutoboy423 ah ok ok
Or even the other villains, for that matter.
I really want to know Neo's backstory and the relationship with Roman
He was her one and only friend.....ever.
And from these lines maybe even a father figure. At least that's what i understand from the lyrics.
apparently from these lyrics Roman gave Neo her name, which makes me cry and I'm to the point that I'm expecting our favorite Mary Poppins ice cream midget to backstab Cinder both literally and figuratively
Gaymer Girl don’t we all XD
Gaymer Girl
Theory: Neo came from an abusive household but then eventually was put into into the system. Kids would be mean and bully her for not being able to talk (most likely due to trauma) and being shorter, so she runs away. Left starving on the streets she awakens her semblance to imitate the appearance of a merchants daughter so she could snag some food, however not yet mastering it wears off pretty quickly. Running from the police she runs into Roman who saves and see her potential.
Cinder: *why do I hear boss music?*
Neo approaching at high speeds*
DM: A small neopolitan coloured girl walks up to you.
Cinder: Neo???
DM: The girl grows giant Grimm scales/horns and enormous FLAMING black wings sprout from her back. These are followed by sharp, monstrous, serrated teeth. Her arms grow into giant snakes that are also rocket launchers. Scythes and spikes rise from the ground around her. The girl also grows to be 30x your size, and releases a bellowing, deafening screech which smells oddly of ice cream. *Roll initiative bitch.*
@@Centuriongoofball W'at?
@@Konh-Minh *_U n c u l t u r e d_*
Mattimus XZ
Cinder rolls a 1
Neo rolls a 20.
She’s dead
She’s in boys. She’s finally in.
Hey, you can't talk!
Dem Pringlez AtWalmart uh I mean:
Don't worry
she can hold up signs
i'm so happy you’re in the game
juvia lockser *holds up sign that says thank you on it*
God...
This shows how much Roman meant to Neo - he was her one light, her one friend.
She had no one else and because of Cinder's mission and alliance with Salem - that's gone
And so will they.
At least Neo will try...
CINDER FOR SURE, but Salem....
I'm glad someone else notice that Neo's lifestory hides in her own song👏👏👏
Jeff has stated that his lyrics can foreshadow events in future volumes of RWBY. These lyrics mean we're either gonna get a flashback or a Neo character short trailer in a future volume.
Precious Belle I freaking hope so, at this point this is more interesting than the main characters of the show
@@NecessaryNonsense990 For once, I'd have to agree. Usually it's the same ol' skip minor details. But RWBY changes that since you actually need to do research to understand what exactly is happening.
@@NecessaryNonsense990 yep,along with some side characters
Or the fact that she is going to kill Cinder
Well it probably won't be a character short. They've denounced future character shorts at this year's NYCC, claiming to rather spend the effort on the show itself instead. Given that volume 6 was awesome even though it had character shorts, the show will likely benefit greatly from the additional attention.
Personally, I would love to see Roman come back as one of Neo's illusions. Just imagine: one day Roman shows up inexplicably and accuses Ruby of murdering him. They fight, but as soon as Roman is hit he shatters and his hat falls to the ground. Neo steps out of the shadows to pick up the hat and hands it to a newly formed Roman illusion. Roman continues to speak but the camera focuses on Neo, indicating that she is speaking through the illusion. Granted I don't know if Neo's illusions can make sound, but it could be an interesting way to bring Roman back without truly resurrecting him and give Neo a way to speak at the same time.
I had the exact same thought, be the perfect way to get into Neo's head without actually having her speak.
I'd be hard-pressed to say that Neo can't use her illusions to talk. If she could do that, she would have done so by now. Why would she purposely not use her semblance to talk if she's capable? Sure you can argue that Neo doesn't have to talk in most scenarios, but when discussing things with Torchwick or Cinder, you'd think she would want to say something instead of making them guess based on her facial expressions. That being said, why she doesn't use her semblance to create illusions of written words to convey her feelings is questionable to. In RWBY Chibi she just communicates with a bunch of signs with words on them, but Neo can freely make illusions so why not make illusions of signs? And don't tell me she can't make illusions of objects because in the most recent volume, Neo turned her umbrella into a briefcase.
@@amberknight7301 I was more viewing it as a potential evolution of her ability. When she shows up again she demonstrates the ability to make fully functional clones that she can control from a great distance without even having to see them, something she was never seen to have done before. Clones that can talk could be the next progression from that. Also, I just really liked Torchwick's character. Pity they had to kill him.
Neo can't make sound
@@cunningsmile4166 I'm aware of that. But, given how much her abilities developed in the seasons she was absent, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to suppose that her illusions could eventually make sound for her.
The moment I saw this I clicked SO FAST
Same
I bet everyone did
Same
Same. I almost had a heart attack of excitement!
The fastest hand in the west
The moment the RWBY fandom was waiting for, the full version of this song
*Oh and the fact that cinder is totally gonna die*
I'm going to be angry if they kill her off.
@@crow464 It's almost inevitable really.
@@crow464 I mean, I'd rather have Neo live than Cinder.
@@ExoriVR Yeah, same here.
@@crow464 I mean she's a villain, she's gonna die eventually. Besides, with THREE people after her, it'll be VERY hard for her to live through the end of the story.
Cinder: Finally, I have the powers of the Fall Maiden!
*One Thing plays*
Cinder: Why do I hear boss music?
*Megalovania*
Cinder: Wait... Why do I hear double boss music?
*You feel like you're going to have a bad time. Perhaps with a side of mute.*
Cinder: Oh.. Shit. Oh shit. OH SHI-
*You've been struck.*
Cinder: Ac-!
*You've been impaled by a sword and a dozen bones.*
*You feel as if you're boned.*
Cinder: I am the Fall Maiden, I cannot be bested so eas-! ACK!
*KARMA kicks in. Retribution for your involvement. You've been struck with the Status Effect: FEAR*
*Acute pain strikes across your back as your aura fails to protect your spine from being severed by a thin sword.*
Cinder: AC-!
*Your cries have been cut off by a deafening charge. Suddenly, a blast takes over your vision as you are put through agony.*
*All that is left is a cane, Melodic Cugel, as a glove picks it up. It was a man in a white... trenchcoat?*
*You realize that Roman is back.*
Roman: You had a bad time. *Blue eye flares*
I was gonna like then I noticed you had 69 likes on the dot
@@MysticalArcane that would be amazing
@@MysticalArcane Who is your provider?
I need the stuff you take
@@argentummortem3405 I don't have a provider unless you count ADHD.
That's alot of ways to say "I will enjoy killing you"....from ironically someone who can't say a thing XD
*Papyrus has left the chat
@Dominique Byers Goddamn it Barb
Underrated thread
@@echosongtheshadowclanwarri578 With how many "Papyrus gets revenge" AUs I've seen in my one year of being in the fandom, that makes sense. One year literally 15 AUs based off this concept alone. My god they multiply like rabbits
@@Konh-Minh what do you mean?
With this song... we better get a flashback for Neo.
Flynt Coal
You know what’d be better?
If the Volume 7 Character short is Neo’s
sure, it’s kinda lazy to have it THIS late
From neglected and abused Trivia Vanille to the free-spirited Neapolitan. Roman was the only person who cared about her and she in turn was absolutely loyal to him. She didn't care about crime, only living as she pleased. Roman made things fun, but now she lost the reason to live.
A criminal and guilty of felony murder for her part in attack on Beacon as it does not matter if you kill yourself just if you help. so she is evil not the most evil person but certainly evil as she does not care who dies.
@@milferdjones2573Considering that nobody but Torchwick ever cared if she died, that's an understandable mindset. She spent her entire life being abused and neglected by her parents then persecuted by everyone else for being mute
I swear people fail to realize the attack on Beacon wasn't even their MOs if you actually pay attention Roman and Neo are mostly small time criminals or mercs more than anything or higher tier organized crime. Before they realized just who and what they working for they had planned to leave after the first job Roman even hints at this in an earlier season. Than Cinder shows up and he realizes he can't leave his usual out is gone and with it the realization that this is more than the jobs he usually took@@milferdjones2573
Yesss our man has blessed us with the lyrics.
This song is sooo amazing but also is so sad for Neo.
I love the references with "A candle's flame"
Torch (flame) Wick (candle part)
Jeff and Casey are so amazing like GAH
And a "new" name: Neo.
@@Wolfeson28 yeah, I'm wondering if that means Neo had a different name?? What's her back story?? Where does Roman come into play?? It says lost without a voice, does that mean she only spoke to Roman?? This song raises so many questions and makes me all the more curious about Neo!
@@True-Awkwardness Agreed. I hope they expand on Neo and Torchwick's backstory at some point. Probably not something the main series would spend much time with, but it sounds like a good candidate for a future novella.
@@Wolfeson28 yeah maybe they'll do what they did with After the Fall
I would kill for that 😂
_"A _*_candle's_*_ flame"_ also makes for a reference to one of Roman Torchwick's inspirations - the character of *Candlewick* from _Pinocchio._
very understandable she's pissed all to hell and back, Roman was really the only one that cared for her and didn't cast her aside.
also great freaking work Flynt you always deliver man ^_^
"Revenge is like ice cream, it's sweet and best served ice cold."
I'll recommend Neo's Neo!
@@schnee_the_bunIt's definitely NOT poison!
But with Revenge the pleasure leaves you after.
@@milferdjones2573 Sort of like if you eat ice cream for breakfast, tastes good but a couple minutes after you finish you get a bellyache.
@@trevorhensley3185 (its probably poison)
Here is my Character Theory/Analysis:
"Lost without a voice and on my own. Then a candle's flame brought a brand new name"
- Candle = Candle being an allusion to Roman Torchwick and his entrance into her life
- Flame = The term "flame" could be a double entendre seeing as "Flame" is also a word for a passionate, but oft short-lived past love. In the same way fire's prolonged exposure to its ignition source creates a greater "flame", the prolonged relationship between the two created something "more".
- A brand new name: As suspected, Neo is probably *not* her original name seeing as "Neo" also means "New" (if we excuse the "Politan" surname), I'm supposing her "New" name refers to the escape from her old, seemingly drudging for the new, excited life with roman (For all you Brunswick Theorists) which, if we went that route, would in turn assume that Roman was *not* a relative but perhaps a newcomer who happened to stay with the family and enticed her to a life of crime, drawing her from the farm (or whatever life she lived prior). This theory is countered, however, with the following line:
- "After years of suffering finally had a place to go" I'm assuming this means whatever previous life she has (Brunswick or not), it was a pain-filled one, which gave her further reasons to follow Roman who probably saved her and/or enticed her, this gaining an unbreakable loyalty to him, and, of course, a new name.
- Having thrust her entire identity into Roman's persona, she has no one and nothing left, and is as empty now as she was in her life before.
- Also, I genuinely believe these are the words Neo is actually saying in her heart, or perhaps the sentiment of them, despite having the ability to verbally depict them.
- Just a side note: Having read the comments, the orphan theory seems like a promising route. Furthermore, Neo, like Nora, is also presented as an orphan and was possibly rejected from her people or maybe the sole survivor of a Grimm attack to her people. Could there be some sort of correlation there? Some food for thought.
Final words: Does she really believe Cinder's idea that it was Ruby's fault? Perhaps, seeing as Roman wasn't *exactly* a fan of her either (which makes Neo not a fan of her as well). However, neither of the girls actually saw him die, and, knowing Neo, any purpose she serves is to first Roman then herself. And since Roman is out of the picture…
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Gosh dang that's an eye opener... GOOD JOB 😁👍
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Well I don't think Neo really believes what Cinder said about Ruby. I see more as a means to an end. My theory is that she is teaming up with Cinder just long enough, to earn her trust, to let her guard down, and then she's going to stab her in the back. Though that probably won't stop Neo from trying to kill Ruby, like you said Roman hated her and she did as well because of him. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
I've loved Neo as a character since I first saw her, from her design, to her character, her sheer badassery. Then after Roman got eaten, she just kinda disappeared. She popped up in Chibi here and there, and of course I went nuts over that, but as volumes passed without Neo, I kept wondering what she was up to. I see her come back, I hear this theme playing and there are no words for the number of backflips my heart did. Neo, as the fucking mute, probably has some of the best character development aside from say... Cinder, or Jaune, or maybe Weiss/Yang..
Seriously, I love this girl, she's a wild trip.
My favorite characters are Neo torchwick Adam
I remember when I too was like "what happened to neo" and then the excitement when she appeared in volume 6
The moment i saw the umbrella in her fight scene with cinder... i knew cinder was dead.
She is my favorite character, the most badass, and i cant count how many times i have rewatched that scene.
And to think, this song is gonna be in Blazblue Cross Tag Battle now
That would be awesome.
G R that’s because it’s happening lol
I don't have bctb how many songs from rwby are on it?
The RWBY character theme music are medley of various songs. Ruby theme for example is a mix of RWBY OP 1 song and Red like Roses part 1 and 2
New neo mains rise up
Can't help but believe Neo is going to betray Cinder. Might be wrong though of course.
Thanks for the upload. :)
Well, either Neo kills Ruby, or Ruby convinces Neo that Roman was killed by a Grimm.
It could also be that Neo dies, but I doubt Ruby would want that.
So yeah, Neo´s likely going to turn on Cinder at some point, and seeing how she can hold her own against a maiden, I guess Cinder will be doomed. Especially now that Cinder doesn´t cover her Grimm arm anymore, meaning that Ruby can see how she can get an advantage over her.
What I´m wondering is: How will Ruby react when Neo decides to kill Cinder?
Will her "I protect all life" mentality make her try and convince Neo not to do it? How would Jaune react to that?
Honestly, re-introducing Neo to the plot was one of the best things the show staff did so far, if you ask me.
@@Kartoffelkamm "Seeing how she ca hold her own against a maiden I guess Cinder is doomed"
Except that Cinder wasn't using her Maiden powers at full capacity inside the building, and as soon as they got outside and she displayed more of it, Neo backed down. Neo is no pushover by any means, but if Cinder fought her like she did against Raven, Neo is at disadvantage even with her impressive Semblance.
If Neo gets the drop on Cnder it'll have to be by a surprise attack when Cinder is distracted by Ruby. I'm guessing they'll fight RWBY in Atlas and Cinder loses her grimm arm to Ruby, and that's when Neo attacks her (assuming the icecream midget isn't distracted by Yang that is)
That being said, I'm certain she wants revenge on Ruby too. She was the last person seen with Roman after all and Ruby was the reason they got separated in the first place.
But then again, if Roman had used even an ounce of braincells, he would've waited for Ruby to get inside the airship and try to get the drop on her that way, in a confined area where she can't utilize her scythe or Semblance to the fullest, instead of getting out of the ship where there's hundreds of Grimm ready to dive down on them.
@@theycallmebad Never underestimate the power of maiden.
This is the second song someone sang about Cinder's doom.
Hopefully the third time sticks.
I like to think that Neo isn't evil, she's just heartbroken
I mean she is Evil even before roman died
I mean she’s tried to kill Yang and the others in team RWBY before Roman died, but at this point that is true
As a certain doctor once said "evil is relative. Most things are just hungry. And hunger looks like evil from the wrong end of the cutlery"
Being hungry for revenge doesn't make you evil
@@cunningsmile4166 Yeah and nazis were jusr following orders
@@zealotoftheorchard9853 "most things" not everything
They finally released the vol. 6 soundtrack!
Neo is having her jaune moment trying to avenge her close red headed companion working with the one that killed the other one's red head
I honestly hope there is a Cesar moment where all the people Cinder has wronged gets a stab in..... preferably starting with Neo getting that first surprise back stab followed up by a front stab from Jaune and a neck slash from Ruby
Brian Durio
I don’t think Ruby would approve of this much violence
Then again, it’s Cinder
Cinder needs to take notes from Dark Souls III’s Soul of Cinder on how to be Cinder
Has every ounce of character that this Cinder never had or will have
Fun fact Casey Lee Williams is the voice of Neo. So when Neo fought Cinder and this song played I took it as Neo speaking with this song
Only in BBTAG.
@@ChiefMedicPururu Actually, when she makes little sounds like gasps and sighs in the main show, it is Casey Lee Williams.
so she can talk. but she doesn't like to talk? İ don't understand😅
@@alisova8365 I'm not entirely sure but from what I've heard as it's been ages since I watched RWBY but it might be selective mutism.
@@alisova8365 She can't talk. But breathing makes some sound, and she can do that, and particularly sharp breaths, like a gasp, are audible, if barely.
I feel so bad for her. I was so hyped to hear about vengeance and instead, I heard about her literal one friend, how depressing she has nothing left to live for, really...
In the description: "Glad im not on Neos bad side!"
You forget, Flynt... It's the Atlas arc next!
meanwhile in flynts mind: ahhh shit here we go again
Hopefully this theme plays when Neo destroys Cinder in the show. Man that would just be epic.
They should do that if they dont then I'll be disappointed in the world
I love Neo and this song!!!!
You are a really great TH-camr!
I agree!!!!!
I too
I three
I mean all he does is upload copyrighted material putting barely any effort into editing and dedication but if that's what you call great then I guess the standards for becoming a creator on TH-cam are really low for you.
@@gta8awsomeness yea but hes the only one with the official lyrics :P
I love this song so much. Neo is my favorite character of RWBY !!!!! ❤️
Welp, she's now in the game... time to kick some ass
Honestly from this torchwick wasnt the bad guy here
Max King he really wasn’t. He said “he couldn’t afford to lose” to Ruby meaning Cinder had him on a leash and forced to do the things he did
At most if he didn't get involved the bad guy stuff he would do at most would be regular criminal robberies
@@tdsrecon9269 you could tell that, that was their relationship from their interactions in volume 1 post-credit and voulme 2 chapter 1
Brody Benton-haskins exactly aha
Yeah Torchwick has always just been an asshole criminal, no worse than any average thug who leads a group of robbers. He's not committed to ending the world like Cinder is. Same as Mercury and Emerald in that way
Time to start memorizing! Thank you for all the hard work you do, Flynt! 😊
This hits *way* harder after reading Roman Holiday.
Very much so
yep
Roman was her best buddy and partner for life. He saw her potential and loyalty. Neo loved her dumdum for making things fun and enjoyed making their outfits.
Roman holiday?
@@phoenixmerril3678 A canon backstory book for Roman and Neo that was published a few years ago.
YES! ICE CREAM GODDESS’S THEME HAS BEEN FULLY REVEALED AND I CAN MEMORIZE IT! THANK!
This song plays whenever someone knocks your ice cream out of the cone.
Daniel Everest Neapolitan of course 🍦😋🍦
EpicNerdGalaxy 1:36 when that happens 😂
This song was painful and glorious before, but after reading Roman Holiday it hurts twice as much 😭
Poor Neo
Congratulations Neo, You're in Cross Tag Battle.
Now that V9 is out, I decided to rewatch all of RWBY from the beginning. And I have been reminded of One Thing: Neo is one hell of a fighter. Has to be one of the best combatants in the whole series.
She is absolutely one of the most skilled, but she's not very adaptable. She excels against people who fight hand-to-hand, with short-reach weapons, or slow/predictable weapons; at the same time she struggles against people with fast, long-reach weapons due to her lack of any kind of ranged attack
Definitely, Cinder was still recovering, so bit of a pass, but Neo had her on the back foot that entire fight until Cinder broke out the Maiden powers. Neo's fights are always fun to watch because she's so much better than basically everyone else, she just spends the whole fight almost toying with them...Raven is the only person I remember her actually retreating from.
Knowing Neo's backstory now makes this song even more sad.
I think that Neo blames Cinder 100% and doesn't really blame Ruby at all. After all, Neo and Roman were trying to kill her at the time, and as a professional, Neo would understand that Ruby was simply defending herself.
However, it was all Cinder's plan and planning that got Roman killed, so it's Cinder's fault.
Also it's possible that she didn't know Ruby lived and didn't perish along with Roman at the airship.
Oof
honestly Ruby indirectly influenced Roman's death as well, if she hadn't blown Neo away she probably could've protected him from the Nevermore
I sort of doubt Roman is actually dead. When he was ate by the nevermore it swallowed him hole, how would Neo have the hat? Plus in one of the books (I forgot exactly which character it was) was swallowed by a Grimm And cut it open from the inside. So Roman could just blow it open from the inside with his cane. Also The nevermore that ate Roman if you look at the scene as the airship is blowing up you see the one that supposedly ate Roman flying away.
@@worms1766 i hope so he was a good character
V9E8 spoilers:
“What a sweet release when you rest in peace
Vengeance, justice finally mine and I’ll watch you fall”
She watched her fall, alright…but it seemed to be anything but a sweet release.
Yup, and that's the straw that broke her back.
She got what she wanted, but. She felt even worse.
after that, she decided to ascend just because she wanted a reason to live
Revenge does not satisfy in the end. It best if one can forgive instead or if that not possible let the issue go. @@lyndonluquin4091
Yeah she learned the hard way that revenge is nothing but an empty goal, and also appeared to be utterly horrified at herself for what she did
@@pokeyscorpion8224 as the old saying goes, those that seek revenge should dig 2 graves
So, based on this song;
Neo had a very bad life until Roman came. Then "he died" and she has nowhere to go. Tadam short little theory.
YEEEEEEEEEEES. That battle between Neo and Cinder was awesome, and this song in the background really gives the fight more of a punch... Thank you for this!
I can finally sing this for next years talent show I’m so excited
Good luck!
If possible I would love to see that good luck
Ill try and have my friend record it and I’ll post it
@@uncleqrowrwby8609 Please do! I wanna see that now.
Just commenting for the notification
And if anyone wondered that Neo and Roman really cared for each other.... If this doesn't scream: "You killed most important person in my life!" i don"t know what would.
Yasss! Meh girl Neo! Her theme finally out! Would kill to see her in action!
I'd been waiting for this since I first heard it in the Neo vs Cinder fight. Thank you so much
has anyone realized that the rain gets gradually more intense as the song goes ? so neat
I can't wait to see how Neo's story unfolds. She is 100% my favorite character.
Edit: After watching Worthy she is dead to me.
i agree with you
Yeah, because I totally wouldn't have guessed that from your profile picture. lol
Watch rooster teeth fuck her over
@@pinestriker2789 Make her the next adam.....
I’m hoping cause I’m still confused if that Neo side series mentioned I’d still happening or not
*NEEOOOOO OH MY*
Thank you so much, FlyntofRWBY !
I love and hate this particular artwork piece
On one hand if perfectly captures her emotions at the time and dear lord don't get me started on that beauty of a background and oh lord that RAIN!
on the other hand she is holding her umbrella, while it's raining, and it's closed.
It's closed to enunciate her emotion. Like the song drop pop candy, "umbrella at your side, it's raining, but you close it tight..."
Ehem... YES I DONT CARE THAT UR LATE I love your vids and the pics you use thanks
Yeah, I don't make any money off of TH-cam, so I have a full-time job that I work. Then there were a couple technical problems I experienced that delayed this even further. Sadly only could get one video out today because of that. I also work tomorrow, but I shouldn't experience any technical problems, so you can expect me to have at least 1 or 2 more videos out.
FlyntofRWBY that’s ok we still love and support you!!!
One Thing comes first! It’s one of my favorites from the album
So we all agree that Neo is the best character, right?
I mean, her original name was Triva Vanille.
Vanilla became Neopolitan.
I love her.
Its ironic lol
I wonder if they named her vanilla before they knew what she was going to look like, lol.
nah, she lost her identity without torchwick
@@bruvance it’s not that she lost her identity, it’s that she didn’t have one in the first place.
@@MeemahSN huh, pretty much
Friendship ended with Roman
Now BLITZTANK is my new best friend.
Finally, no battle noises! ... Also, this song is so deep... I never thought Neo would be so deep. This is still probably my favorite song from the series so far!
The battle noises is cause before the soundtracdk released they could only upload what was played in the show.
@@Midnight-wh2bs I'm aware, but now there isn't!
He was the only person she loved in any sense; there was deep trust and companionship with the duo of thieves. He was her dumdum and equal partners in crime. Neo loved the thrill of crime Roman brought
This makes me think.... Torchwick was the Professor Lionheart of the first three volumes, being forced to do what he did by Team WTCH.
I'll add in to your theory with some of Roman's final words :
"It's not what I have to gain, Red. It's that i can't afford to lose."
"You can't stop 'em, I can't stop 'em. You know what they say, If you can't Beat 'em, Join 'em"
Me: Dang, how pissed is Neo?
Neo: -starts singing-
Me: Oh..
I think that it would fall in line with Cinder to not remember Raven’s warning of “Always watch your back” and Neo will get a really good hit in on her but one that wasn’t strong enough which is where a fight would ensue
For a character who can't say a single word, her song speaks volumes.
Helll yeah!!!!!!
Thank you so much I've been waiting for this moment!!
Coming back to the song after the recent episodes of volume nine it hits differently now
yeah :( she's my favorite character and I wish she can live her life for herself and not anchor her life on a person. Idk how to explain it but yeah.
I hope the show goes on, and I hope to see her come back as who she wanted to be
There is SOOOOOOOOOO much meaning in this song. This just shows how much Neo loved Roman.
Prediction: Neo eventually becomes an anti-hero and begins supporting the main cast
well while i would love that there is this one thing that miles said long long ago "she will do something that'll make the fans hate her" which sound foreboding as hell for someone that was (at that time) just introduced its been speculated that neo might kill one of the rwby girls given roman's playful lil hate boner he had for ruby i would hypothesize a healthy guess neo will kill ruby at one point and cause a seething tidal wave of hate from the fanbase for it
@@RamonxMystiere. I was thinking something along the lines of betraying Cinder, then sneaking off and start trying to kill off RWBY, but then she has a change of heart and decides to leave them alone. Then she starts doing her own thing and that leads into her starting to help the cast and turn her life around.
@@bellarosa_ that works too
As long as she don't touch jaune, nora or ren, I'm 100% ok with what she will do (I don't think she will kill a main cast, but maybe qrow or winter, since it's atlas arc)
Neo eventually becomes an anti-hero and begins (subtly) supporting the main cast (Ex: Rigging villains to fail)
2:09 is where the bbctag 2.0 trailer began Neo’s introduction.
Thanks
My man
You sir have introduced me to a game that I now want to play. So thank you for this
Neo I Cross tag woo
2:14
When you finally find the camper that's been killing you the whole match.
Well Neo, ready for BBTAG?
Neo: ......
Thats the spirit!
Neo: *Nods*
Since she can still use her head (quite literally)
Neo's sign: "Totally"
I've never loved a villain and cried for a villain as much as this one.
Just for everyone who says neo has a voice actor, yes it is true neo's voice actor is cassey. Despite the fact neo doesn't sing someone must at least have done her slight grunts and giggles.
This hits so much more after finishing Season 9. So brutal!
Who came here after saw Neo in BBTAG Announcement? 🙋
I've waited beyond one year for another RWBY character. About time!
Me.
me
And then they follow it up by announcing that Casey will be voicing(?) her, meaning that basically Neo's singing this!
Me im so happy im only gonna use neo
love how the rain slowly intensifies over the course of the song.
Nani?!
NotSmarter // Definitely Errel English is a good language
Omg I didn't notice! It actually does! Holy shit!!!
i JUST noticed, the picture changes as the song goes on, she starts to cry and rain starts, nice touch
Can't wait to hear this when she comes to BBTAG soon
This makes me believe if Cinder didn’t get Maiden Powers she would’ve died
Cinder better watch her back
Darron Cunningham 1000%. It felt like neo had her on the ropes even with maiden powers. Then cinder was like oh shit.
“You sent me back to nothing” IM ACTUALLY GOING TO CRY
When you look back at her past you see what she went through.
She lost her best friend/ Love interest...
Not only her best friend but her first and ONLY friend
Can’t wait to see the rest of them. Keep up the good work Flynt!