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  • With continuing releases of major films and TV series on Sherlock Holmes, the fictional character has never been more popular. But what about his creator, the author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, whose own life was at times as dark and as mysterious as the man he created?
    How was this extraordinary character formed and did he, as so many believe, really exist? The story behind the creation of this Victorian phenomenon is both disturbing and mystifying. It takes the viewer on a journey through the Edinburgh of the young Conan Doyle and the darker influences in his life, and onto the streets of London. What was it about Sherlock Holmes that captured the imagination of society as it entered the exciting, yet frightening world of the 20th century?
    With dramatic visualisations, contributions from leading Holmesian experts, figures from the world of literature and research, and evidence from the medical community, the Sherlock Holmes enigma is dissected and the truth begins to emerge. This brand new documentary explores the intriguing world of Conan Doyle and discovers the truth behind his decision to to kill off the man who had dominated his life for so long in one dramatic episode.
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  • @gailcbull
    @gailcbull 5 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    The running theme of the Holmes stories is that of intellect (Holmes) and compassion (Watson) triumphing over the cruelty and brutality of the world. That's why the stories endure.Who doesn't want to believe that all the nonsensical evils of the world can be defeated by reason and empathy.

    • @michaelpaulsmith4619
      @michaelpaulsmith4619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If you'll forgive the parallel, it's rather like Spock and Kirk in the original Star Trek series: one all logic, the other tempered with humanity and compassion.

    • @gailcbull
      @gailcbull 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@michaelpaulsmith4619 No need to apologize for the parallel. It's a good comparison.

    • @michaelpaulsmith4619
      @michaelpaulsmith4619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gailcbull Why thank you, Ma'am. :-)

    • @DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis
      @DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And yet the intellect is tempered by the drug addiction and the compassion by a gambling addiction as well as the unspoken fact that the man with compassion is also a veteran of a rather brutal war.

    • @rickevans3959
      @rickevans3959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the Doobie brothers wrote the song what a fool believes.

  • @dianadrb
    @dianadrb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Doyle hated being interviewed because all they wanted to talk about was Holmes and not his other books. Doyle told friends he was sick of writing the same character over and over but was so hounded by fans. He kept writing for peace and quiet. He couldn’t even get away with killing him off. The avalanche of protest was overwhelming.

    • @kingdaviYT049
      @kingdaviYT049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agatha Christie was smarter. She's also on record saying she didn't like Hercule Poirot. But she made sure his death wasn't published until after her own.

    • @michaeljensen2404
      @michaeljensen2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah , but he never complained about the money he was making of Holmes, never complained about Holmes then , he is just another spoilt celebrity ,

    • @BassGoBomb
      @BassGoBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice puns... :-)

    • @ria1636
      @ria1636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@michaeljensen2404 'from Holmes'. I suggest you read up on Conan Doyle he was never a 'spoilt celebrity'. Lol

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@michaeljensen2404 so someone who becomes famous for one thing and gets asked by numbskulls to repeat it over and over, like they were a robot or circus monkey, is never allowed to say "actually, I want to try something else"?

  • @magicwandfour
    @magicwandfour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I am surprised that there is no mention of "The Cottingly Fairies" .How Conan-Doyle became the biggest advocate that the photos of fairies at the bottom of the garden were real. It turned out that the creator of the greatest detective was duped by two teenage girls.

    • @Jolenesmart1980
      @Jolenesmart1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow I didn’t know that! Haha

    • @Fallopia5150
      @Fallopia5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Probably the opium he took regularly!

    • @JanetElson
      @JanetElson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you seen the movie with Peter O'Toole and Harvey Keitel ??

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Creative thinkers are easily taken by the fantastical.

    • @tedtimmis8135
      @tedtimmis8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That still puzzles me as well. I suspect he may have feared his own mortality.

  • @brachiator1
    @brachiator1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This video would be far more interesting if it simply told the story without speculation or embellishment. Doyle created a fictional character that captured the reader's imagination and later wanted to branch out into something new. The anguish and backlash from fans is an amazing story in itself.

    • @bisedwards6985
      @bisedwards6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree: the "analysis" of his motives were the least interesting aspect.

    • @thewinebottle
      @thewinebottle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, and without music too.

    • @michael7324
      @michael7324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's said when he killed off Holmes, the citizens of London wore morning bands on their arms.

    • @mw54470
      @mw54470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree! A documentation shouldn't be presented to fit their own agenda!

    • @John-ol4eo
      @John-ol4eo ปีที่แล้ว

      It was based on a real person his university teacher James bell of Edinburgh University.

  • @linda10989
    @linda10989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    For me, the best representation of Holmes has be the late Jeremy Brett

    • @USNVET
      @USNVET 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Completely agree with you, he WAS Holmes.

    • @xys7536
      @xys7536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yes he was the BEST. but dont forget NIGEL hes classic

    • @USNVET
      @USNVET 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@xys7536 He was, no question of that. But Jeremy Brett was much more faithful to the literary Holmes.

    • @Shipwright1918
      @Shipwright1918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I agree, Jeremy Brett has my vote for best on-screen Holmes. It's said he got so into character it haunted him and he'd never refer to Holmes by name, calling him "You Know Who" or simply "HIM".

    • @anonymousunknown4925
      @anonymousunknown4925 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @Linda Roy
      I agree, Jeremy Brett definitely made the best representation of Sherlock Holmes.

  • @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
    @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Why is it that literary types always have to look for alternate meanings and hidden secrets? Couldn't it just be that Conan Doyle was fed up with writing the same sort of work over and over again and wanted to move on to something else. Often in life, the simplest explanation is the correct one... After the success of 'The Baskervilles' he re-acquainted himself with his character and found great financial reward. What better incentive is there to return to the character in later life? Why is Sherlock Holmes still attracting audiences today? Probably nostalgia and the attraction of deductive reasoning...

    • @valmarsiglia
      @valmarsiglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's true. Conan Doyle really wanted to be a high-end "literary" writer, and felt that Holmes was holding him back and relegating him to the second-string.

    • @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
      @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Beautiful Life Beautiful life, not beautiful mind apparently.

    • @markletts2000
      @markletts2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Western Australia Now and Then ✊👍

    • @debbielough3236
      @debbielough3236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's true, and they did say that.
      But it's not the highest quality documentary ever, given it says that Holmes encounters his arch nemesis Moriarty for the final time in The Final Problem.
      Cos it's also the first time Moriarty appears in the books...

    • @HammersonPeters
      @HammersonPeters 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." (Sorry, I couldn't resist).

  • @ukmediawarrior
    @ukmediawarrior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I find it intriguing that Doyle felt Holmes was taking over his life, was overshadowing him, because the exact same thing was said by the actor Jeremy Brett who portrayed Holmes in the brilliant tv series. Brett often stated that Holmes was overcoming him, almost leeching the life from him and indeed the man became very ill toward the end of the series.

    • @BassGoBomb
      @BassGoBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He was a very poorly man (manic depressive and heart condition)... His lifestyle (60 cigs a day) - He became obsessive over Holmes - fine piece of drama by him to say that Holmes was taking him over .. it's the actors that allowing obsessive behaviour on their own part - as one can with almost anything .. :-) I was fortunate enough to go to Wyndham's Theatre to see Brett and Hardwicke play 'The Secret of Holmes' I still have the programme... :-)

    • @tracik1277
      @tracik1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BassGoBomb The nature of obsession is that it does take you over and can overwhelm you. You managed to enjoy his performance nevertheless.

    • @BassGoBomb
      @BassGoBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tracik1277 I was always going to enjoy his performance unless he had had a bad night. My point was that many actor and, indeed, actress', have said the same about roles taking over a part of their personality if only temporarily.. it's also 'the thing to say' ... like bands with .. this is their best album.. or favourite song etc., often disingenuous. Holmes and Brett's character are both strong and why the effect was there, I am sure. Knowijg he was ill, as Brett did, he put his 'all' into it.. :-)

    • @agateplanet
      @agateplanet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The power of archetype ?

    • @Nancy-dg6hp
      @Nancy-dg6hp 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brett was far from the first actor to feel that the character was taking over his life.

  • @richardholmes2268
    @richardholmes2268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I've been asked many times if I'm related to Sherlock Holmes. My standard reply is, "The fictional character ?, No, no relation." Most people get it, but not all.

    • @tracishea5053
      @tracishea5053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dude, just say, "yes."

    • @richardholmes2268
      @richardholmes2268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If I say yes, that would be a lie. My answer is truthful and lets them know, in the snarkiest way possible, that they just asked if I was related to a fictional character.

    • @rideordis810
      @rideordis810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Like the famous story of someone asking Anthony Hawk if he was related to Tony Hawk 😂

    • @amazinggrace5692
      @amazinggrace5692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh that’s funny! He seems real in our mind I think because we’ve seen him depicted on TV and movies. I guess things like that just slip out. 💕🐝

    • @tracik1277
      @tracik1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I was you @Richard Holmes, I would have said only by marriage!

  • @joelhall5124
    @joelhall5124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dr Joseph Bell was the main inspiration for Holmes.
    Conan Doyle was fed up that his other works were ignored and he ran out of ideas for Holmes.
    Remember he was briefly resurrected in later years, mainly for popularity.
    Let's not look for other motives.

  • @johannesbluemink4581
    @johannesbluemink4581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    After reading many comments, I think I'll just re-read all S.H. stories. Never fails!

  • @vettekid3326
    @vettekid3326 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    In Holmes the character I was as a child fascinated by his reasoning of deduction and applied that whenever possible because being aware of your surroundings and and what is in it can give you a wealth of information and I used that regularly as an EMT on man down calls because just charging into a situation can and will get you killed.

  • @johnchristie823
    @johnchristie823 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    There was a man in Melbourne Australia, who came from Scotland, who became a detective in the Colony, by the name of John Christie. His a clean up rate of crimes was like no other, this man was a bare knuckle boxing champion, a master of disguise, and a rowing champion, and there is an account of his adventure at the Victorian State Library. Fascinating!!

    • @MikeGreenwood51
      @MikeGreenwood51 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But did some one write intriging fictional stories of his cases so the world could be entertained by perceived detective brilliance? Actually books need not be fictional as there are some great real case books. Bernard Spilsbury, Vincent Bugliosi, Eliot Ness. But it tends to be the dramatised fiction that get audiences chewing on their couch potato popcorn that become the on-screen heros known, read, loved and watched by millions. Sam Spade, Phillip Marlowe, Holmes, Colombo etc etc. LOL. Have you any good links? TY.
      Have a nice Day.

    • @richardnormantaylor6556
      @richardnormantaylor6556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are titles of the writings about John Christy ?

    • @johnchristie823
      @johnchristie823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardnormantaylor6556 His name is John Michell Christie from Scotland to Australia in the 1868, who became a real life Sherlock Holmes before he was written, look up his name for more details.

  • @LindaCasey
    @LindaCasey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Love, love, love ALL the Sherlock Holmes' stories ...

    • @aaronjanusch6090
      @aaronjanusch6090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His stories are the very soul of the best whodunits!

  • @MrPedur
    @MrPedur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    why the need for music all the time? I simply can`t hear the narrator clearly :-/

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Arthur Conan Doyle wrote other books, most of which are obscure and didn't sell very well in his lifetime. It's been suggested that "Sherlock Holmes" got in the way of other interests, though it paid all the bills. A final word on Sherlock Homes: A character who calls himself "Sherlock Holmes" makes life in Ontario, Canada more complex for "Detective William Murdoch" of the Toronto Constabulary.;)

  • @tedtimmis8135
    @tedtimmis8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    For me, the most remarkable aspect of Doyle’s writing is his superb dialog, his ability to create an interesting and unpredictable plot, his clarity and pace and finally his grasp of the frailties of human nature.

  • @philipgage1072
    @philipgage1072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The birth of forensic science - he tapped into it.

  • @TheJapanChannelDcom
    @TheJapanChannelDcom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Good documentaries but way to greedy with all the ads.

    • @2468whodoweappreciate
      @2468whodoweappreciate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that's just how youtube works now

    • @TheMaijicalKingdom
      @TheMaijicalKingdom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh yeah, and then their pathetic plea to TH-cam in the beginning of the vid is pathetic!
      As far as the comment ‘That’s just way TH-cam works now’ goes, that’s pathetic as well!
      ‘Do not go gently into the night of commercials on TH-cam!’
      Give everyone one that lets you give a thumbs up or down a great BIG THUMBS DOWN, and click away from every single one as soon as you can!
      When you could always do this, I didn’t mind too much, but shoulda known better!
      Anyone else upset with the click-aways now at 5 secs ( And yes, even 5 seconds BOTHERS ME!) & 10 seconds long instead of the 3 second click-aways???

    • @anonagain
      @anonagain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheMaijicalKingdom Or just use the free AdBlock extension and you'll never have too watch another ad (or go on a diatribe).

    • @PlayNiceFolks
      @PlayNiceFolks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Life hack. Drag the dot all the way to the end, let the video end so that the Replay symbol appears, but then just drag the marker back to the front. Boom.

    • @PlayNiceFolks
      @PlayNiceFolks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      God forbid you pay for something

  • @curtisharrell
    @curtisharrell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Actually Edgar Allan Poe (1809 - 1849) created the modern detective story, predating Doyle by almost 60 years.

    • @DavidBergenStudio
      @DavidBergenStudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And also beating Charles Dickens' Inspector Bucket to the punch by ten years!

    • @bw3240
      @bw3240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree yet also and ACD, creatived the detective serial, if I am not mistaken. The brilliance of Poe may never be equaled.

    • @lindamaemullins3086
      @lindamaemullins3086 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Truth

    • @jessemcelroy2776
      @jessemcelroy2776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If Poe could know the reverence writers have for him nowadays i think he might have smiled for once

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Possibly, but they werent very well written were they? His obsession with the grotesque, delivered in its full lurid detail by a rabid alky in full adolescent flow,- he never really grew up,did he? - befuddled by lifes complexity - would have been better served had he dedicated himself to books for children, about the right level given his paucity of skills with language

  • @fredrikcarlstedt393
    @fredrikcarlstedt393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cheers for the most chivalrous of knights, Mr Sherlock Holmes, and his most faithful of companions and trustworthy Boswell, Dr John Hamish Watson !

  • @gorkivalenzuela6940
    @gorkivalenzuela6940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    When I was in my early teens, I found Sherlock Holmes' books and, for many years I thought he was as real as Santa Claus. What a heartbreaking pain was to have to face that he was just a fiction. Although, deep in my heart, I still believe in him. He is still my hero.

    • @nscheah9042
      @nscheah9042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @BassGoBomb
      @BassGoBomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, there's fact and fiction .. people do seem to have problems with that... Da Vinci Code being another among many.

  • @Brembelia
    @Brembelia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What were the appealing traits about Holmes that made and makes him loved, and read; and watched even today? I don't think it was his drug addiction, or the high pitched (annoying) voice, or his disdain for weaker (corrupted) minds, or his curios Bohemian lifestyle (or the mainstream public would live likewise,) but rather I think the attraction is/was that Holmes is (1) independent, not a coward, and a free spirit who is able to be successful. (2) He is observant and sees things that are right in front of people's eyes (giving hope that others may do likewise.) And much like a stage magician who pulls scarves, doves, bouquets, and rabbits from thin air right before your very eyes, he pulls observation and deduction together much to everyone's amazement and amusement. (3) Holmes also uses his powers of observation to problem solve in a world of that period and now that was/is undergoing rapid changes manipulated from on high that causes a lot of misery and suffering. (4) He possesses not only a work ethic, but also integrity, and a moral ethic which the late Victorian society highly revered as a safeguard of social integrity (as opposed to today where "the ends justifies the means" is the rule of law, banking, and commerce.) Holmes is able to piece together the bigger picture and guide confusion into the light of clarity for all to behold and hold. Holmes was not "born to the purple" like Sir Percy Blakeney, and didn't have endless resources at his disposal to affect outcomes; Holmes has to make due at all times (like the Baker Street Irregulars) but manages to be fabulously successful against all odds. Holmes is a man of modest means who has to survive on his wit. Homes gives dignity to the common man and in so doing endeared himself to average working people, but also held the respect and affection of those who actually were born to higher stations as a beacon of English ingenuity and social stability..

    • @LostHorizon52
      @LostHorizon52 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well stated ;)

    • @Silverhand290
      @Silverhand290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I was wearing my hat I would take it off to you. That is the best, most lucid and very well constructed you tube comment that I have come across in a long time. In fact I'm going to find my hat right now.

    • @deniseandrews113
      @deniseandrews113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👏👏👏👏👏🎩

  • @Splatzloki
    @Splatzloki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    *As I was watching this documentary I realized who Dr. House was based on*

  • @DavidMacDowellBlue
    @DavidMacDowellBlue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Okay there is some interesting stuff here--like Doyle's mother's possible relationship with her former lodger, and his time on a whaler--but much of this is stretching. More, the author of the voice-over clearly doesn't know Holmes at all. Whoever it is reveals this in so many details, getting tiny and important things wrong. Even making claims that are weird--like all the "drunken husbands" in the Holmes stories--who? I have a sense there must be some but I cannot think of any. But what does spring to mind (and it is telling the writer doesn't think to mention this) is the violent, murderous father in "The Speckled Band".

    • @bisedwards6985
      @bisedwards6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad you didn't make this doc. I'd have enjoyed it more!

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My Dad saw Gillette on stage when he visited England for Boy Scouts World Jamboree in the 20's. He said Gillette was a fine actor of Holmes, but the play was spoilt by an emoting bell hop and a silly Watson.

    • @olwens1368
      @olwens1368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How interesting that you have a family account of this- have heard of Gillette but no details.

  • @hannibalbarca4372
    @hannibalbarca4372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:43 : The Soviet (so Victorian) version of Sherlock Holmes, (Between 1979 and 1986, the Soviet studio Lenfilm produced a series of five television films, . The series were split into eleven episodes and starred Vasily Livanov as Holmes and Vitaly Solomin as Watson. For his performance, in 2006 Livanov was appointed an Honorary Member of the Order of the British Empire)

  • @mohorovski
    @mohorovski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was mediocre. They talked a lot about Conan Doyle killing off Sherlock Holmes but didn't adequately explain or posit why. Felt a little bit all over the place.
    -A Seasoned Documentary Connoisseur

    • @folkloreofbeing
      @folkloreofbeing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is really simple. He didn't want to write Sherlock Stories anymore. He had a wealth of other stories he wanted to write and Sherlock was holding him back.

  • @granskare
    @granskare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sherlock Holmes is a great fictional man, with Doctor Watson is fun stuff :)

  • @Lurker1979
    @Lurker1979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Agatha Christie had the same issues with Hercule Poirot and that characters popularity. She did not even like the character, but kept writing Hercule Poirot stories as he was extremely popular.

    • @TheFissionchips
      @TheFissionchips 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Poirot should have been canned before he got into the public. Horrible.

    • @marbleman52
      @marbleman52 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheFissionchips Oh, I completely disagree. Perhaps you do not care for the more refined mannerisms of Poirot. Yes, his fastidiousness with his personal grooming and eating and way of life, and the way he walked like a penguin, is clearly different from the ordinary person, but the shows were impeccable in their production; and like Sherlock, Poirot did not suffer fools easily, and his ability to untangle the complicated events in each episode's murder was just as incredible to watch as was Sherlock's. But...that's okay....you have your opinion and I have mine.

    • @MikeGreenwood51
      @MikeGreenwood51 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird moustache. Watching DOT Nile the other day I was put off by something that looked like jet black plastic or shining boot polish black. There seems no intrigue at all. I respedt you rights to like or admire.

  • @teresakunkel592
    @teresakunkel592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I concur, Jeremy Brett was indeed the best Sherlock Holmes.

    • @mikelovetere4719
      @mikelovetere4719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sir Basil Rathbone was great, but his scripts stunk...They should have kept it closer to the author's original designs instead of hollywooding the screen scripts...

    • @olwens1368
      @olwens1368 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikelovetere4719 Yes- a great actor but the plots made me cringe even when I was a kid.

  • @WiamWiamlovesJapan
    @WiamWiamlovesJapan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love ur documentaries... this is the earliest i've ever been to a yt vid... can u please do a doc abt the Romanovs ?

  • @craigstorey1360
    @craigstorey1360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    in “MY OPINION” basil rathbone (apologies if spelling wrong) was the best holmes,glorious black&white txt book look and sound!oh and Dr watson!absolutely classic still as funny now as back then

  • @kingdaviYT049
    @kingdaviYT049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some good insights, especially toward the end. But the "killing" of Holmes is badly over-psychoanalyzed. Conan-
    Doyle simply wanted to free himself to write what he'd dreamed of writing all along, historical romances in the manner of Sir Walter Scott and Robert Louis Stevenson -- and the stories he heard from his mother. Unfortunately, that wasn't his forte.
    Personally, I think his greatest act of genius wasn't the creation of Sherlock Holmes but of Doctor Watson! None of us could have stood being around Holmes for even a day.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes . I agree . Scott and Stevenson
      were his literary idols. Despite his
      unparalleled success I think he felt
      a sense of failure that he never
      achieved the sort of literary reputation that they had. ? They're
      both almost forgotten today - especially Scott . But Holmes lives on...? !

  • @_Stin_
    @_Stin_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damnit- The impossibility of killing a fictional character drew me in - Damn these clickbait titles lol

  • @luxurylifestyle2329
    @luxurylifestyle2329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Basil Rathbone for me is the best Sherlock Portrayal out there🔥 & Nigel Bruce to perhaps the best Dr. Watson🙌🏽

    • @ria1636
      @ria1636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nigel Bruce's portrayal of Dr Watson is a travesty, pity as he is a good actor otherwise. Scriptwriter and production fault.

  • @WOLFROY47
    @WOLFROY47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the great writers, write, from their own first hand experience, hence the believable details

  • @Romcom356
    @Romcom356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A real feat. To take such a fascinating subject and make it so terminally boring where you spend large parts of it trying to hear ABOVE THE BLOODY MUSIC

  • @i.p.956
    @i.p.956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sherlock Holmes is popular in the XXI century too. I think nowadays the readers enjoy this character because he is different than your average book hero, he is unlikable and also very likeable at the same time.

  • @Nyctophora
    @Nyctophora 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I completely disagree with the point about it being a jaunt away from modern technology. The stories make great use of the latest technology such as telegrams and train travel (calculated to the minute) as well as medical science.

  • @chrisleach8009
    @chrisleach8009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The adds make this documentary unwatchable.
    Such a shame.

  • @Restless_Hermit80
    @Restless_Hermit80 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We all like to be Holmes but most of us are Watson, wondering what to do about the Moriartys of the world xP

  • @Shirley-lock
    @Shirley-lock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He was tired of writing the stories.

  • @RedwoodTheElf
    @RedwoodTheElf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be fair, in The Final Problem, Holmes died "off screen" with his death only "deduced" by Watson. Thus, he wrote himself an automatic "get out of death free" card for the Detective.

  • @edzbravo4454
    @edzbravo4454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We also have the anime Detective Conan which honors Arthur Conan Doyle by using 'Conan' as the main protagonist's alias.

  • @macnutz4206
    @macnutz4206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Doyle got very sick of writing Sherlock Holmes stories. He considered it the least worthy of his writings. That is the simple reason that he killed off the character, so he could quit writing those damned stories.
    The demand for the Return of Holmes was Huge.
    Doyle did not love Sherlock and Watson.

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This vid starts off saying Doyle really wanted to write longform novels, he did that for the first - publishers broke up into smaller, short stories. The publisher then public pressure forced him to feed the short story addiciton. Result? Over 50 short stories, only 4 novels - no wonder he'd had enough

    • @macnutz4206
      @macnutz4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cheeseatingjunglista Indeed. He was kicked in his artistic balls by his own creation. that is a weird fate for such a man.

  • @lanas.2129
    @lanas.2129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good documentary. Enjoyed!

  • @yelloworangered
    @yelloworangered 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Holmes was a clever toy that Doyle enjoying playing with for a while. Then his ambitions changed and he resented getting out this (to him) worn-out toy and plying it once again for an audience.

  • @devindevon
    @devindevon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could this doc be any more repetitive? Really annoying. I'm gone.

  • @larrygrimaldi1400
    @larrygrimaldi1400 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They clearly did a lot of serious research for this, too bad they made it so tabloid.Is there an award for the number of times you can use the word, 'disturbing' in a documentary?

  • @farahm.5544
    @farahm.5544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think Agatha Christie's "Hercule Poirot" series is at par with Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes in terms of the stories. I like them both the most.

  • @flederzombie1960
    @flederzombie1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's the disease of our time: music in documentaries.

  • @frederickbowdler1509
    @frederickbowdler1509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful research my own father born 1901 edwardian though victorian in sensibility always had this fear of change and the workhouse. Many of that generation lost themselves in music or the church society and reality was almost unbearable without this escape. Massive changes in tech a hierarchical societal structure where most of the population were enslaved led to this fear. lots of money that could have been used for society went into the battleships bristling with guns truth will out!

  • @piraliraza
    @piraliraza 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Its so funny that I actually wondered who killed Holmes like he was a real person. He was that much of an icon

  • @CUMBICA1970
    @CUMBICA1970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A bit surprised to know Conan Doyle was Scottish. I don't know but I have the impression that he's mostly described as "British" while somebody like Sean Connery is always THE Scot guy. I dunno maybe it's just me.

  • @swagmanandy
    @swagmanandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's popular because secretly we all wish he really was real or that we could be like him, and as long as in our minds the sea coal burns in the grate and hansom cabs rattle through the fog and Moriarty still plans his devilry he will live forever in Baker Street.

  • @alexandermacdougall7873
    @alexandermacdougall7873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It takes an hour to say "because he was tired of writing nothing but Sherlock Holmes?

  • @kristinapaula7859
    @kristinapaula7859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes!!!! A Sherlock Holmes documentary!

  • @wmmatthew83
    @wmmatthew83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I beg the differ if there was no Edgar Allan poe there be no Sherlock Holmes plain and simple

  • @dabedwards
    @dabedwards 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's an interesting parallel between Conan Doyle and his near contemporaries Gilbert and Sullivan, both of whom felt that they should move on to more serious work, but who were trapped by the immense popularity of their operettas.

  • @letolethe5878
    @letolethe5878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So the first five minutes of this show consists of annoyingly asking repeated rhetorical questions.

    • @marbleman52
      @marbleman52 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pausen....I agree...quit repeating the same question over & over.....your audience is not 6 years old.

    • @postscript67
      @postscript67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which prompted me to ask the question "Why should I watch any more of this?". So I didn't.

    • @redicderldavis
      @redicderldavis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are spot on its annoying and seems very common.

    • @lizbrown7232
      @lizbrown7232 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reminded me of Monty Python, kept expecting the narrator to fall down a manhole.

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it started poorly then fell into a pit of incoherence and poorly judged speculation, collapsing in utter nonsense near the finish. Terrible nonsense

  • @j.s.585
    @j.s.585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Timeline, please turn up the volume when you upload these wonderful shows!

  • @WOLFROY47
    @WOLFROY47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the real holmes, the guy that taught doyle how to be a good doctor. Dr Joseph Bell

  • @charliebubbles9501
    @charliebubbles9501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Basil Rathbone.....THE BEST Holmes ever.

    • @tinaarko6625
      @tinaarko6625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I used to think so too until I found Jeremy Brett. The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes series from 1984 to 1994 with Jeremy Brett. They are so well done. I just found them on TH-cam about two months ago. Worth the time watching the series. It's as accurate as possible. I will always love the Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce movies.

    • @patricksputnick5094
      @patricksputnick5094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tinaarko6625
      Do you mean those Grenada production Sherlocks , yes they are Best ! They seem so accurate to details and all the the signs of the times. One of the finest TV productions ever to be made in the UK.

    • @billlawrence8520
      @billlawrence8520 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Without a doubt, Sean Connery is Bond and Basil Rathbone is S. Holmes, Consulting’s Detective.

  • @susannasharrock9253
    @susannasharrock9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love reading the stories!!!!!

  • @johnmurray4918
    @johnmurray4918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think all authors reflect on their own life knowledge in their stories. At the point where he killed off Holmes I think it may have been a strange combination of boredom with the character and jealousy. It may be that the realization the character was larger in life them himself and a sense he was only a Watson to a fictional character no less, that caused him to kill off Holmes. I think the public demand for the return of Holmes also gave him more of the public notoriety he may have been seeking. Just a thought.

  • @jagirl966
    @jagirl966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was subtly introduced to Sherlock Holmes by way of Disney's "The Great Mouse Detective". A few years later, I learned that Basil was based on Sherlock. Then I got into the anime, "Detective Conan/Case Closed", where the main character mentions the author created his idol. It wasn't until I was a high school jr., that I read "The Hound of the Baskervilles" and liked it.
    And a few years ago, I discovered a cartoon that, apparently came out when I was little. It follows most of the cases with a twist.

  • @skippycampbell3782
    @skippycampbell3782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basil Rathbone was the best Sherlock Homes.

  • @johnmiller2290
    @johnmiller2290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to know a woman who was convinced that Holmes was a real person, and that Doyel had just logged the adventures

  • @pauledwards2438
    @pauledwards2438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Blathering accademicics with little to say about a genius

    • @davidhallett8783
      @davidhallett8783 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you re not an accademicic yourself then

  • @gregcampwriter
    @gregcampwriter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Of course authors draw on our own experiences, but we also invent, and the impulse to psychoanalyze authors is a symptom of unresolved jealousy.
    And the Holmes stories continue into World War I--see "His Last Bow."

    • @scientificatheist9381
      @scientificatheist9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice

    • @MikeGreenwood51
      @MikeGreenwood51 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree about 'unresolved jealousy'. Need jealousy always need to be a symptom of say some neurosis. Can man or woman not see something and experience some jealousy with out it being a symptom? Fair play if psychologists or psychiatrists could treat jealousy then it would be convenient to have it categories as a symptom of an illness. But as they can not, or do not help but suck the country or patient dry of money just for making out something trivial is an illness or symptom then it'd be better in many cases if they didn't bother and just accept some seeing of the grass as greener (jealousy) as natural and let people lick their lips salviating at some of what they can not afford or have. A person with a life expectancy of the rest of his/her life in a wheel chair may have to cope with problem far greater than being jealous of those with two healthy legs. But making jealousy a symptom of an illness just can not help at all. I experience jealousy as a registered disabled person but rather than experiening it as an illness I experience it as an essential acknowledgement of certain realities to help motivate me to achieve similar or an alternative so as not to be jealous further. So are people doing things for themselves even if born partly of jealousy really suffering symptom of an illness? No not necessarily, not if they are not suffering.

  • @spiderlime
    @spiderlime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    any biography of conan-doyle will tell you that he saw his literary work as restricted by sherlock holmes. specifically, he saw his historical romances as the hight of his creation. the 4 holmes novels and 56 stories are only ten precent of the literary works he produced. i'm quite sure that the producers of this program knew that.

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eideric And why they are idiots. They claim ALL his other works were bad and rejected by the public - what about The Lost World? Have they never heard of all the movies versions? Yep, they said it, they were wrong and based on the poor excuse for a "Documentary" this thing is, they are unlikley to produce anything with coherence and skill

  • @raymondboyd1200
    @raymondboyd1200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    British people sure do love their walk and talk narration. 4:06 and many more.

  • @aileenbright5381
    @aileenbright5381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Basil Rathbone for me.

  • @Crazydragons-d1g
    @Crazydragons-d1g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeremy Brett WAS Sherlock Holmes

  • @MN-pu6qx
    @MN-pu6qx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8/10. As a fan of Sherlock Holmes and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's other works, I found this told a very interesting story. (24.6.21)

  • @The2tlc
    @The2tlc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe he ended the character to unshackle himself from the story-line. To break away and do other stories. Or maybe he was jealous more people spooned over his character instead of the man that created him.

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nicely done, in a few sentences you pin down the most likley real story, which the authors/creators of this vid were unable to do in an hour long production. This vid states early on that he desperately wanted to be successful as a long form story teller, ie a Novelist. The Publishers and the public shackled him to the short story format - proof:- over 50 short stories only 4 novels. No wonder he wanted out. Despite that obvious, self stated fact, the authors of this vid chose to imply, badly, with no proof at all, that his dislike of the character was based in some childhood trauma/psychological damage. A great brain analysed by idiots, what could we ecpect??

  • @ih8ua119
    @ih8ua119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should add a little show between your ads, oh yeah and vol quality sucks!

  • @drstrangelove9455
    @drstrangelove9455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This program asks the ? why would the author want to kill off his creation about 10 times before it gets going---jeesh we got it the first 5 times.

  • @pauledwards2438
    @pauledwards2438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Read the origional stories

  • @nicolebarnes581
    @nicolebarnes581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeremy Brett!!!thanks❤!!

  • @eleanor7
    @eleanor7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always assumed when it came to Conan Doyle killing off Holmes, that he was growing tired of him. Where the public was demanding more and more Holmes and writing those stories perhaps felt like a machine cranking out supply and less fun for him as a writer? Holmes had become this larger than life character in his own right and Conan Doyle probably was just bored doing the same thing over and over for Holmes and wanted a change. Or perhaps he felt overshadowed by Holmes and just wanted to break free of what Holmes had become.

  • @auntijen3781
    @auntijen3781 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a political junkie, in the US,
    & seeing the pictures of Dr Joseph Bell [13:12] was UNNERVING.. Seriously.. WTF?! So, ACDs real life INSPIRATION for SH (Dr. B) looked like the offspring of Mike Pence & Roger Stone.... Spooky AF!

  • @johnhealy6676
    @johnhealy6676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where’s Jeremy Brett ?

  • @dadsonworldwide3238
    @dadsonworldwide3238 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the increase in laws created blackmarkets and the serial killers was recognized as polices grip over society grew.From the countrys huge changes like these laid the foundation for both the character and noterity of these type of crimes.

  • @1973HenkY
    @1973HenkY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The noise through the narration has ended me watching this. After 5 minutes I am tired of this nonsense.

  • @Jaska8000
    @Jaska8000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have read far more novels in my life than an average person of my age of 42. Fictional novels? Let's say over 1000. But still to day, none of Arthur Conan Doyle's production. This video inspired me to buy a copy of "Baskerville hound".

  • @Bhenderson0001
    @Bhenderson0001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope I am wrong, but I get the feeling that the ideas were drying up, and this may have been the sense of the end.

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He died in 1930, the last published Holmes story published in 29, no ideas running out, he just wanted to be a novelist, not merely a short story production line worker

  • @kimmykimak3737
    @kimmykimak3737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I probably would have enjoy it more if the music wasn't as loud as it is. Can barely hear the people talking. Get rid of the music. You don't always need it

  • @toddcott9510
    @toddcott9510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the Holmes storys and have most if not all the dvd's, but Holmes'es inside is pure bullocks.

  • @Nmethyltransferase
    @Nmethyltransferase 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moffat is constantly telling Sherlock fans to go sit on a cactus.

    • @balthiersgirl2658
      @balthiersgirl2658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Utter ars of a man

    • @samhart4205
      @samhart4205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moffat needs to watch this documentary maybe then he could write Sherlock Holmes half decently.

  • @nphipps9406
    @nphipps9406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    greet author. I had taught when young that Sherlock Holmes was a real person and a great detective also.

  • @dwhitman3092
    @dwhitman3092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoying this but it seems as though the volume is low, oh well I am a bit older so perhaps it is auditory impairment LOL,

  • @troynov1965
    @troynov1965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Overly analyzing his reason for killing off Holmes. I imagine he just got tired of the character and wanted to move on Thats how people grow in their craft. Unless you are in it for the money and want to keep pumping out the same stale stories.

  • @chrissibersky4617
    @chrissibersky4617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone is very found of to he music track for this video. This is unwatchable. 👎🏾

  • @Wordmama
    @Wordmama 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Intelligent, well researched, complete, and even respectful. Best history of Doyle and Holmes I've seen.

  • @abdj88r
    @abdj88r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He killed him off because he wanted to be known for other writing. That's it. And he did do other writing.

  • @warrenbrowder8536
    @warrenbrowder8536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Return of Sherlock Holmes has to be one of the best of Doyles' stories.

  • @bisedwards6985
    @bisedwards6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of speculation with zero evidence of anything beyond Doyle wanting to move on.

  • @nathanroberts355
    @nathanroberts355 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe if there was a movie about legend of Sherlock Holmes famous detective

  • @FilmCricket9
    @FilmCricket9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killed off? You forgot to say SPOILER ALERT! 🤣🤣🤣