Ivo Pogorelich - Chopin - Piano Sonata No 3 in B minor, Op 58
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2019
- Frédéric Chopin
Piano Sonata No 3 in B minor, Op 58
1 Allegro maestoso
2 Scherzo. Molto vivace
3 Largo
4 Finale. Presto non tanto. Agitato
Ivo Pogorelich, piano - เพลง
The lady that say “I’ll listen Chopin with you” will gain my heart forever
Where
@@jukeban646 I think that quote Is from the movie the pianist
Mov. 2. Molto vivace - 15:24
Mov. 3. Largo - 19:00
Mov. 4. Presto non tanto - 31:12
Very lucky to see him play this piece live, an amazing evening.
One of the most powerful interpretations I've heard of the sonata. Crushing. Absolutely.
undoubtedly, he captures the soul of Chopin; nobody plays as he does nowadays.
첨엔 왜 이렇게 천천히 치냐고 혼자 중얼거리다 어느새 내 귀가 이 리듬에 익숙해지고 정신이 편안해졌다. 그러다 한창 일 작업하는데 3악장이 흘러나오고 너무 놀라서 영상 켜서 빤히 쳐다봤다. 이렇게 경이롭고 아름다운 3악장은 처음이다...
Omg I have fallen in love with this interpritation
Best version I have ever heard
an eternal genius.
That presto non tanto is just so powerful and clean. By far the most beautiful version that I have heard. So mysterious and dark.
I love this recording! Pogorelich's playing is really honest and the sound of that piano is absolutely beautiful ❤️
Why did you say "pogorelich's" ?
You mean, same musical éducation ?
The first time I hear this performance is more than 10 years ago "with CD". Even now I still moved by this performance.
Such a clean sound. Wonderful. Joins Zimerman and Argerich as my 3 favorite performances.
Have you heard Sokolov?
Dinu Lipatti on top
This recording is eccentric and thrilling at the same time! Before his crisis 1996 Pogorelich played quite individually but always anyway interesting and gorgeously! Bravo!
26:24 he actually spread a 12th with ease, from B to F#, insane hand size
Rachmaninoff hands
Just saw it. HOW?!?
7:36 absolute beauty
Very sensitive touch & articulation , most emotional between pianists . I only listen to this version
I cannot imagine hearing Chopin playing this for the first time giving humanity a gift beyond words
Still one of the best!
Many chords he played are
very clear and accurate
His hands are incredible
Pogorelich somehow can feel the sound before he presses the key, mixs the sound in his head and then put it on the piano. And his technical skills are so goood that he can control it all the times. It is the secret behind his beautiful piano sound. Sometimes he plays very slowly but his brain works incredibly fast. He is a genius. Don't even try to imitate him. You will fail miserably.
Do you comment this on each of his performances?
ro fo I just can’t get why almost everyone admit this guy‘s talent; in my opinion, he‘s just ok for the professionals. It‘s so confusing.
Every good pianist does the same - "mixing the sound in his head and then putting it on the piano." One of the key elements of his convincing interpretations is, as you say, perfect technique in every possible way, so that he can express on the piano EXACTLY what he feels/wants, which is, of course, not the case with all the pianists. As "simple" as that.
@@beethovenianho1642wdym one concert of his is worth 500€ for a regular seat
Pogorelich is amazing
I find it so cool that he repeat the exposition.
3악장은 깨져있는 느낌을 전해주네요
4악장은 기쁨이 넘치는군요
Ivo, 감사합니다
새로운 의지로군요
i'm so happy this is updloaded again !
Thanks you so much for having reupload this.. this redition missed me a lot
Superb💙💙💙
I was prompted to hear this by Amy Fay, in her book "Music Study in Germany," written in the 1870s. Such a wonderful read. The degree of sensitivity in those wonderful days before recording was far deeper than now, I think, generally speaking. This man is a fabulous musician. Surely among the finest of any age.
Amy Fay's book is a real gem indeed.
Amazing largo
this is the best rendition of chopin sonata he is absolutely unique just beautiful
Versione di qualità. In ogni caso fra le varie versioni che ho potuto ascoltare in assoluto prediligo quella di Joao Maria Pires, per una personale rappresentazione scandita con tocco magico e grande intensità emotiva.
I love the musick
If he plays with this moderated style at chopin competition he can win the competition
Beautiful interpretation of a beautiful piece. Another great performance of this masterpiece is that of Daniel Pollack.
The best interpereter of Chopin since Chopin.
ridiculous
Rubinstein and Zimmerman…
Have to go Argerich there.
Moritz Rosenthal and Josef Hoffman for me.
This recording sounds very nice. And I like his performance.....not too fast and furious.
Troppo routin - manca passione
Well Pogorelich is one of few great artists who can play piano slow and quiet as well. From the technical perspective once you press a piano key you are doomed. You can't do anything to correct the sound. So you must predict all the times. No big deal if you play fast because you can hide a lot. But in slow tempo it is real pain. Pogorelich somehow can feel the sound before he presses the key, mix the sound in his head and then put it on the piano. And his technical skills are so goood that he can control it all the times. It is the secret behind this beautiful sound. Sometimes he plays very slowly but his brain works really fast. He is a genius.
Magari de gustibus non disputabant, devo dire che Chopin non mi piaceva per la doloceza e carattere patetico finche Pogorelich non ha dato a Chopin una nuova dimensione. Qui mi manca quella sua originalita nella interpretaione.
Impressive..
❤️❤️❤️❤️
My favorite interpretation of this piece, can I find it in FLAC/ high quality?
Wow that piano sounds amazing! How old was ivo when this was recorded?
I would say maybe in its late 20s
素晴らしい！ブラボーだ。かなり個性的だ。ショパンコンクールではウケなかったようだが、素晴らしい。
Che pianista favoloso che era il giovane Pogorelich! E che strumento favoloso, forse il miglior Steinway degli anni '80! Mi piacerebbe sapere il numero di matricola.
che meraviglia ! a casa ho ancora il VHS di questa performance, registrata al Castello Reale di Racconigi.
@@NewPorlock Anch'io.
damn, he has huge hands
What a beautiful sound. Do the pianos sound better now?
I don't think so hahaha
31:10
It doesn't get any more Gothic than that.
how do you mean?
a bunch of notes
-how is this the only major recording that takes the repeat in the exposition section of Movement 1?
-I love that Pogo treats the transitional material after the exposition of theme 2 as a dance. Reminds me of the waltz-sequence in Ballade 1 in gm.
-He hits the keys so hard when announcing the 2nd theme. I like the effect, even thought it's counterintuitive.
I love this recording so much, and Pogo's artistry is simply incredible. May I just say, though, are you sure about the comment you made to do with the repeat? For me it's the other way round, almost every recording I listen to, they take the repeat there. I'm hard-pressed to find a good one that doesn't!
@@asherrubenstein2949 I'd be happy to take some suggestions. This one and Pires take the repeat. I like Pires better because I think the sonata breathes better at a faster tempo. Argerich doesn't; Fialkowska doesn't; Kissin doesn't; Cho doesn't...
I would love for you to prove me wrong, though. I think that first movement needs the repeat and I don't see enough interpreters respecting that. Although of course their interpretations are often achingly gorgeous in every other way.
@@tomswiftyphilo2504 I love Pires', as you do. I personally think to an extent, you need that sense of total mania particularly in the 4th movement. That coda is always SUBLIME. I cannot prove you wrong as you have a very well thought out opinion but all I would say is that sometimes I feel like Argerich's lightning fast recording, sometimes Kissin, and sometimes even Pogorelich's more recent 43 (!!) minute long recording, which at first sounds laughable, but Pogorelich is Pogorelich, and with an ego like that - what more needs to be said?
@@tomswiftyphilo2504 Some suggestions. Uchida does take the repeat, and she really allows the sonata to ebb and flow. Listen to Pollini and Ax just as two other recordings if you haven't already. Trifonov is also highly worth listening to, and Liu's 2015 competition performance. Alexis Weissenberg is totally manic - proceed with caution there. Perahia's is really pretty good as well. Someone, however, who never fails to shock me is Katsaris. The 4th movement has been so many a time hammered to death, every note has been played in seemingly every way possible, yet he brings something new to the mix. I also highly recommend Ashkenazy, practically a staple recording, and the old masters such as Cortot, Lipatti, or Arrau. Just to close off, Glenn Gould's (off all people) is absolutely fascinating. You would never ever expect what's coming. It needs a thorough listen.
My favourite recording of the sonata is Argerich. Tomorrow it may be Perahia. Then Ingrid Fliter. Then back to Cho. Then a new recording I never knew existed. Then Pogo's 43 (!!!!!!!!!!!!) minute long version, utterly atrocious to some but a real experience to listen to, and if nothing else, he makes you look at it differently. If you have any suggestions for me, do let me know!
@@asherrubenstein2949 I just can't do the 43 minute version. It sounds like I'm sitting in on a practice session, and not even in a good way. I gave it a try, though.
Would anyone be able to trace the date/ year of this recording?
Croatia can claim one of the greatest piano techniques of all time as its own. There is Michelangeli type of control and that appearance of unemotional, almost detached playing. Don’t be fooled.
David Footerman ...A technique very much acquired at the Moscow Conservatoire...as a training place for pianists,it really doesn't get any better than that!😊😋
@@andrewkennaugh1065 that technique is not from moscow conservatorie, its from his WIFE and she had a teacher who was student form siloti and siloti was a student of liszt... So... It came of his WIFE and not from conservatorie..
@@mihaelmazuran932 Yes,undoubtedly some of that rubbed off on him,but the foundations of his technique were firmly laid in Moscow.Similarly with Radu Lupu,another non-Russian who studied in Moscow.
I think it looks better on one's C.V.to put that you studied at the Moscow Central School and the Moscow Conservatoire rather than say that you studied with your wife!!😊😊
Good luck!😊
Kissin is superior
@@stefanbernhard2710 no
Interprétation magnifique. Mais pour moi, il y a davantage de lumière dans cette sonate. Ici, nous avons un Chopin en recherche de puissance, et très romantique, sensible, parfois un peu maniéré. J'entends Chopin plus lumineux et classique dans cette dernière sonate.
quelle est votre meilleure interpretation ?
@@themoroccanpianist8953 Samson Fra
Samson François, mais mon âge y est pour quelque chose. Je l'ai vu jouer en concert, j'ai même vu Alfred Cortot donner un cours d'interprétation (et aussi un cours d'interprétation de Samson). J'ai moi-même travaillé cette sonate avec Cécile de Brunhoff, la mère du pianiste Thierry. Pour moi c'est de la musique a) classique (pas trop de rubato, straight forward et b) de la lumière, de l'assurance, on avance on avance...
@@jean-pierreboudine720 je joue le piano depuis presque 2 ans.
J'aime bcp cette sonate et je souhaite apprendre a jouer le 1er mouvement.
J'ai deja appris le largo.
est ce possible sans professeur ? avez vous des conseils à me donner ?
@@themoroccanpianist8953 Tout est difficile en musique, même la première invention à deux voix de JS Bach. Naturellement, les gens sont différents et les solutions dépendent des gens. Mais je dirais a priori qu'il FAUT avoir un professeur, et un bon. Si possible, commencer avant dix ans et travailler sérieusement au moins deux heures par jour. La troisième sonate de Chopin est probablement moins difficile, techniquement, que la deuxième, mais elle est difficile techniquement et musicalement.
isso é um demonio
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His playing style did a complete 180 flip and is very conservative after he lost the contest. He doesn’t miss a single note anymore, just as the silly jury intended. I’m sorry for Mr Pogorelich. I can still sense his heart in his playing here though.
I like this but I don't like these unnecessary rubato in largo at the beginning
The passage around 40 measures before the final key change to B Major in the last movement was basically played without expression, without rubato. The whole recording sounded muddy to me. I'm wasn't impressed.
Far too quick.
It's the slowest performance I've heard in 50 years and I've listened to literally hundreds of performances of this piece.
Remo Mazzetti why so serious man
@@dodosodo7455, why so stupid man
@@AlexanderArsov
Why so competitive man
Remo son, a small tip for you: before listening to hundreds of recording, go pee. This way you wont have to listen in a hurry..
When it comes to Chopin Pogoman is simply out of his depth, sorry to say.
Hey man, you know there is no such thing as a well respected Chopin-depth connoiseur, right?
Thank for your irrelevant opinion.
Thank you for your irrelevant opinion Op. 1 No. 2
It's the slowest and worst performances I've ever heard of this piece, and I've heard and studied many performances and played it in concert myself.
Obviously you have not the best taste, otherwise you would be a world renowned performer and not Ivo Pogorelich.
Johannes Jakschik no, Pogoman is just that bad. One of worst shit I’ve ever heard.
And ugly too. Pogoman is ugly, whether outside or inside.
I'd be curious to hear your interpretation if you would consider uploading it. I could se how someone would accuse Pogo of dragging in the trio, but I don't hear that.
I think pianist who try to play as fast as they can are just clowns. I dont get the music when it is too fast, I dont enjoy it.
undoubtedly, he captures the soul of Chopin; nobody plays as he does nowadays