Sound like a mixer (plugin) inside a mixer (daw), not really sure about this workflow .. Can't they make it to control the same fader/pan pot of the DAW .. I don't know if technology like ARA could help with that.
I dont think thats what they were trying to accomplish with this software (control the same fader/pan pot of the DAW). Its really an emulation of the way consoles work in the past before they incorporated control surfaces. Consoles didn't control the faders/pan knobs of a DAW because they are not control surfaces. Remember, these boards were before Sound Tools (now Pro Tools). The nostalgia of these types of software (plugins) may not be as intuitive by today's generation of engineers.
@@cyorkgo My friend I work on whats so called a `real console` every day. There is two ways to mix on a real console, use it as a monitor controller (only 2 return channels from PT) or lay down each channel from PT into the console, now in each way the workflow is totally different .. one that you need a mouse/screen all the time and the other one you don't need to look at your screen at all! ... Anyway back to my point, if you have a mono channel how will you pan this mono channel from CLAmixhub? In this case you will need to use the DAW pan pot, the same goes for the duplicated faders. maybe you can use them to automate but they're useless for balance work.
maybe for the faders but you would always have to click a couple extra times to open and close each eq and dynamic processor so this saves a few click I guess
@@cyorkgo whenever i have ever used a real console i used the Pan knobs a SSL Neve or Trident all of them have pan and I kind of like the sound of the pans better then the DAW panning
They say it this plugin was a representation of CLA's SSL4000 desk. How realistic is this plugin compared to the real desk and is it really CLA's desk ? Plugin Alliance put out a great SSL4000 E simulation plugin last year with TMT technology (each track of the desk was individually emulated !!!) but to our great dissapointment, the dynamics section fell short when compared to a real SSL4000E desk. HOW well , punchy and lively is the dynamics section on this plugin version and does it match that unbelievable SSL4000E Desk dynamics section ??? Please can you tell us about it ?
If you want the best sound in the box with no compromise go UAD. I still use certain waves plugins like the f6, vocal rider, and the c6 occasionally. When it comes to character you have to go UAD or slate if you're on a tight budget.
At 3:15 you said having the 'Line' at the default 12 O'Clock position sounds very clean and therefore to introduce the colour characteristic of the console's preamp, you applied some mic-pre gain. What I did not understand is the reason to turn down the Line encoder. Why did you have to turn it down- as though the resultant gain would be the sum of the gain setting on the Mic and the Line encoder. Don't the Line and Mic work only one at a time? I mean if the signal is Mic Level you use the Mic pre and the Line section is disabled, and vice versa? Or am I mistaken to think so? You reducing the Line level seemed like compensation to account for the increase in the level through the Mic encoder. Please explain.
I tried the plugin, it is very strange - the line and mic knobs are both active at the same time. Not like the hardware works. I think it's kinda wrong and shouldn't be structured like that
Any of you saying that Waves missed the boat by not having pan, mute and solo are missing the point. All summing, panning, mute, solo and busses still happen on a channel by channel basis in your DAW and are easily visible and usable from your mix window. The workflow of controlling eq, setting dynamics/gates on 8 channels at a time (64 really with one button click) will save you SO much time. Also being able to see things like all of your tom eq's or all of your guitar eq's can help you quickly see what you are doing to similar channels and move through making decisions much more quickly. I think this plugin and workflow are brilliant.
Well said my good friend. I've been subscribed since I can remember, and I can say that your explanation of any content that you post is very simple, to the point, extremely comprehensive, & it gets the job done! Thanks for being the teacher that you are. #happymixing
I thought this plug was gimmicky as hell before watching this video. I really like that bucket feature and could benefit from that. I could see how incorporating it will do something different for my workflow and maybe give me a different approach.
While the workflow is appealing since i originally learned on an SSL back in sound school, this is actually my biggest curiosity. I still use the old SSL plugin on every mix and as good as it sounds, they did that one what...10 years ago or something? I am really curious what them re-tackling an SSL in 2019 sounds like if there are notably differences or improvements to that.
I just noticed that he was adjusting EQ with on/off button in the off position. I realized it when he started cranking up the HF on the overheads and nothing changed and he said "Nice"... LOL
I just use the CLA MIXHUB bus plugin which is the emulation of CL SSL desk master bus that in itself is an amazing emulation and you can use the CLA MIXbus as multiple instances, its not a one off plugin for the master bus only. So you can use it for drum bus, guitar bus etc, and on the master bus without using the buckets. Or use the buckets just for the "MIC" per channel to add harmonic distortions. My point is you don't need to go the full hog mix within a mix, just utilize some things especially if you are working on 100 or more tracks. This emulator in my experience provides the highs sweetening octave harmonics, the mids separation, and the low mid to low "feeling it" I can hear and feel what around 200hz is doing to the snare at 1db boost in BELL mode.
OG Jawdinz they have that one with the desk for like $2k. My studio is small. The Output desk leaves approx 36” on each side to the walls. If I had the room...
Softube Console 1 American Class A can be run as a standalone plugin without the hardware. No doubt the other Console 1 consoles will follow suit in time.
Do the faders integrate with ones already attached midi control surface that controls protools faders to instead control the plugin faders to really get a full hands on control of the hubs faders instead?
OK,... now we have the ideal mixing channel plugin! But how is the CPU hit for a lot of instances? I hope that it somehow brings the instances into one.
ozone1979 Cpu hit is really bad for me, using only around 8 instances it kills my cpu totally and i have a pretty powerful pc, it is unusable to me for mixing full songs at its current state since i cant see my pc handling more than 10 tracks with this plugin on
wait so does this come with the EQ AMD compressor ect. or is this just a host for CLA plug ins? because I was going to buy this thinking that it was a mixing plug in that came with the EQ, compressor, amps, whatever else
@@slawaschwed I know but the joke was that you have also one slot in omni channel so you can insert something there as well so you can possibly create infinite loop...
The older Waves SSL strips are very good, but I recently got the Brainworx SSL 4000 E plugin and it's clearly superior. Unless I misunderstand, using the Brainworx SSL with Group Channels in Cubase can accomplish a very similar workflow to MixHub and probably better sound.
Hopefully the other major plugin manufacturers get on board with this design. I could really get into this workflow, but I would love to be able to try different console emulations instead of being limited to Chris'.
So, probably not as sophisticated as the rest of you, but would this have me stop using all the plugins I've been using up to now? Or is it just something that "sits on top" of the channel mixes that I would do in Logic? Tx/hb
Its Cool BUT On Waves Sit it Says ( Bucket View in the CLA Mix Hub is currently not supported in eMotion LV1, SoundGrid Studio and MultiRack ) So Does That Meen i Can Not Use it With My Digigrid iOS Interface As a Soundgrid Plugin ??? Thats Crap
I was dissapointed by that too. You can only use it standalone mode in soundgrid, which defeats the object of having a mixhub! I think i might stick with waves ssl and cla compressors in soundgrid then.
@@ProductionExpert hey man thanks for answering, but I'm asking about inserting a different Waves plugin, let's say the F6 eq. Will you be able to work on 8 F6 eqs at a time or will it only show on the individual channel strip?
@@SHONROPER While that makes sense in general, and I do have 2 screens, only one is touch, I would like to make use of this plugin on the touchscreen along with the DAW interface. Plus, with a laptop or mobile scenario, dual screens may no be practical. BOTTOM LINE? It would be nice if the mute/solo functions were part of the plugin GUI.
When I first saw it, I said... “do I really need another SSL Plugin?” Obviously, No, but I had the same perspective: it’s not about the sound at this point... it really is about the workflow. I was sold! 💳😍🎚🎛💻
Wouldn't the best test be to put this one into comparison with lets say the Brainworx SSL plugin. Doing a blindtest with 100 people and see if anyone at all can spot what is what? The answer is that no one can tell the difference. But does it matter? No. Use whatever plugin you like. But even more important: Do a third comparison using only e.g. Fabfilter plugs and see if anyone can spot the difference. The answer is: No. A professional mixing engineer knowing what to do don't need “analogue emulations” to get a good result.
no solo or mute the channel ? hmmm noooo maybe if one day they upgrade that I will get it but the concept is nice but dose little detail like not been able to solo or mute a Chanel, won't be getting this one at list not now I'm still going to try it but not buying it for the moment , I think Waves is going on the right direction maybe if they do that same concept with the SSL bundle and add the little things that are missing I think will be a game changer ,
How is the bucket idea any different to izotopes neutrons mixing? Only difference i see os Izotopes does ot in a more visual way That and as always waves... Great price, always recommended products for quality to price ratio waves, not dissing u coz id rather thank u But i feel this as been done more than u think it as x
I wonder how this will integrate with a C24 or D-Command. Does having this many parameters make it too much to be used with a control surface? Ill have to test it on my C24 tonight. I just bought the plugin at www.everyplugin.com for $56.00 using the YNY23 discount code. Will try it with the C24 tonight.
I tried it with my c24, this sadly doesn’t translate very well to the encoders but I didn’t expect it to as there are a lot of controls in this plug-in, especially when you use a lot of buckets and channels. C24 works best as a plugin controller when the plugins are super simple and stripped down
That is what I was afraid of @@ProductionExpert I rely heavily on the C24. I wonder if you can access just the channel strip on the encoders, as it states that in the manual you can use the plugin as a standard channel strip, without all the other functionality. Thanks for the feedback.
I can't understand how this has any use as a daw mixer replacement when it doesn't have mute and solo.. you'll have to click back to your DAW to do so which entirely ruins the point. Another miss from Waves.
It's ridiculous. Only someone who has learned mixing with the mouse in his hand could compare this to mixing at a real console. There are other products which let you access the whole mix in full channel strips without any "buckets" and a mixer in a mixer.
Ha. Harrison Mixbus32c. Is the real deal waves thing is a knock off and not as user friendly...Harrison nailed it already. Save your money try Mixbus32c
If i'm being honest, the bucket flow doesn't really suit me. I'd rather hop around channel to channel because I know exactly what i'm hearing and how to get there. I do like how they incorporated the 1176 and his EQ strips and that's about it. I feel like its more efficient just to get the SSL channel strip and call it a day. But then again, this plugin is cheaper and it offers more. Personal preference at this pointZ
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The EQ on the OH was bypassed while you were adjusting it. How many times have I done that and could swear I heard a difference?
yes that happen to me too
its mixing man .......uhh
It was a test to see who was watching ;) THANKS!
@@ProductionExpert 💞😘
I have done that many times. I swear I heard a difference, and the damn thing was in bypass. I have done it on hardware to..
I noticed that adding highs did nothing to the OH, but I thought it was such a delicate EQing, that I'm just not able to hear it with my rugged ears.
Dont you miss a mute and solo button, in order not to leave the plug-in window?
Just bought this only 21€. This is magic and mic level is astonishing
The min 5:41 the perfect example of a CLA fanboy review.
Rip lol
Yeah that's unsub worthy
Sound like a mixer (plugin) inside a mixer (daw), not really sure about this workflow .. Can't they make it to control the same fader/pan pot of the DAW .. I don't know if technology like ARA could help with that.
I dont think thats what they were trying to accomplish with this software (control the same fader/pan pot of the DAW). Its really an emulation of the way consoles work in the past before they incorporated control surfaces. Consoles didn't control the faders/pan knobs of a DAW because they are not control surfaces. Remember, these boards were before Sound Tools (now Pro Tools). The nostalgia of these types of software (plugins) may not be as intuitive by today's generation of engineers.
@@cyorkgo My friend I work on whats so called a `real console` every day. There is two ways to mix on a real console, use it as a monitor controller (only 2 return channels from PT) or lay down each channel from PT into the console, now in each way the workflow is totally different .. one that you need a mouse/screen all the time and the other one you don't need to look at your screen at all! ... Anyway back to my point, if you have a mono channel how will you pan this mono channel from CLAmixhub? In this case you will need to use the DAW pan pot, the same goes for the duplicated faders. maybe you can use them to automate but they're useless for balance work.
maybe for the faders but you would always have to click a couple extra times to open and close each eq and dynamic processor so this saves a few click I guess
Mustafa Al Bazy you don't have one those cards to print all channels back in pre 2bus?
@@cyorkgo whenever i have ever used a real console i used the Pan knobs a SSL Neve or Trident all of them have pan and I kind of like the sound of the pans better then the DAW panning
So, is the music selection from a Casio keyboard from the 80s?
If this were a DAW. it would be awesome! something similar to Reason with the mixer built in each channel.
I'm wondering if it is sounding the same? (I'm reason user too)
They say it this plugin was a representation of CLA's SSL4000 desk. How realistic is this plugin compared to the real desk and is it really CLA's desk ? Plugin Alliance put out a great SSL4000 E simulation plugin last year with TMT technology (each track of the desk was individually emulated !!!) but to our great dissapointment, the dynamics section fell short when compared to a real SSL4000E desk. HOW well , punchy and lively is the dynamics section on this plugin version and does it match that unbelievable SSL4000E Desk dynamics section ??? Please can you tell us about it ?
If you want the best sound in the box with no compromise go UAD. I still use certain waves plugins like the f6, vocal rider, and the c6 occasionally. When it comes to character you have to go UAD or slate if you're on a tight budget.
@@jorgefrias7889 I use mainly UAD and slate on all mixes
i want a hybrid of vmr-mixhub and bx console...they all bring something different to the table
At 3:15 you said having the 'Line' at the default 12 O'Clock position sounds very clean and therefore to introduce the colour characteristic of the console's preamp, you applied some mic-pre gain. What I did not understand is the reason to turn down the Line encoder. Why did you have to turn it down- as though the resultant gain would be the sum of the gain setting on the Mic and the Line encoder. Don't the Line and Mic work only one at a time? I mean if the signal is Mic Level you use the Mic pre and the Line section is disabled, and vice versa? Or am I mistaken to think so? You reducing the Line level seemed like compensation to account for the increase in the level through the Mic encoder. Please explain.
I tried the plugin, it is very strange - the line and mic knobs are both active at the same time. Not like the hardware works. I think it's kinda wrong and shouldn't be structured like that
Any of you saying that Waves missed the boat by not having pan, mute and solo are missing the point. All summing, panning, mute, solo and busses still happen on a channel by channel basis in your DAW and are easily visible and usable from your mix window. The workflow of controlling eq, setting dynamics/gates on 8 channels at a time (64 really with one button click) will save you SO much time. Also being able to see things like all of your tom eq's or all of your guitar eq's can help you quickly see what you are doing to similar channels and move through making decisions much more quickly. I think this plugin and workflow are brilliant.
Well said my good friend. I've been subscribed since I can remember, and I can say that your explanation of any content that you post is very simple, to the point, extremely comprehensive, & it gets the job done! Thanks for being the teacher that you are. #happymixing
I thought this plug was gimmicky as hell before watching this video. I really like that bucket feature and could benefit from that. I could see how incorporating it will do something different for my workflow and maybe give me a different approach.
The only important thing is the sound. Is it better than old ssl plugin or not
true that is a big one to consider
While the workflow is appealing since i originally learned on an SSL back in sound school, this is actually my biggest curiosity. I still use the old SSL plugin on every mix and as good as it sounds, they did that one what...10 years ago or something? I am really curious what them re-tackling an SSL in 2019 sounds like if there are notably differences or improvements to that.
Get the Demo then
Haha this Harrison Mixbus have for years and NOT as a plugin :)
Tommy hellstén TSTstudio 👏🏾 👏🏾 another Harrison family member 👋🏾
And here facebook.com/groups/HarrisonMixbusSoundstage/ :)
Reason Mixer, Sonar Pro Channel..
Who cares,really! Comments like this are so lame...it doesn't matter who built something first,as long as it works well.
I just noticed that he was adjusting EQ with on/off button in the off position. I realized it when he started cranking up the HF on the overheads and nothing changed and he said "Nice"... LOL
I just use the CLA MIXHUB bus plugin which is the emulation of CL SSL desk master bus that in itself is an amazing emulation and you can use the CLA MIXbus as multiple instances, its not a one off plugin for the master bus only. So you can use it for drum bus, guitar bus etc, and on the master bus without using the buckets. Or use the buckets just for the "MIC" per channel to add harmonic distortions. My point is you don't need to go the full hog mix within a mix, just utilize some things especially if you are working on 100 or more tracks. This emulator in my experience provides the highs sweetening octave harmonics, the mids separation, and the low mid to low "feeling it" I can hear and feel what around 200hz is doing to the snare at 1db boost in BELL mode.
Are you saying the MixHUB is what you use on tracks?
Imagine this plugin with the Slate Raven desk
and the new raven big boy raven is 7000 bucks less than less gen
OG Jawdinz they have that one with the desk for like $2k. My studio is small. The Output desk leaves approx 36” on each side to the walls. If I had the room...
Is this a blue and blacke built in ?
How is this on CPU processing power??
Softube Console 1 American Class A can be run as a standalone plugin without the hardware. No doubt the other Console 1 consoles will follow suit in time.
Do the faders integrate with ones already attached midi control surface that controls protools faders to instead control the plugin faders to really get a full hands on control of the hubs faders instead?
What about the NLS Channel/buss? It seems like its based of that idea. Really clever.
OK,... now we have the ideal mixing channel plugin! But how is the CPU hit for a lot of instances?
I hope that it somehow brings the instances into one.
ozone1979 Cpu hit is really bad for me, using only around 8 instances it kills my cpu totally and i have a pretty powerful pc, it is unusable to me for mixing full songs at its current state since i cant see my pc handling more than 10 tracks with this plugin on
@@aleksas.3143 much thanx... hopefully they make some update optimizations.
ozone1979 I would love to see it get optimized so i can use it for mixing big projects, it truly sounds great
wait so does this come with the EQ AMD compressor ect. or is this just a host for CLA plug ins? because I was going to buy this thinking that it was a mixing plug in that came with the EQ, compressor, amps, whatever else
Imagine CLA MixHub where you put on the insert slot Sheps Omni channel in which you put on the insert slot an SSL G-Comp... :)
Haha!
@@slawaschwed I know but the joke was that you have also one slot in omni channel so you can insert something there as well so you can possibly create infinite loop...
Very cool! How does sound compare to Console One SSL?
All fine for the sound, but how many channels can you instantiate before you start taxing your CPU? Not all of us have a PT HD platform.
Does this limit the use of automation?
Great question!
I would guess that automation is possible as it has that option on the GUI but to what extent? Who knows.
I saw EQs, compressions, low and high pass filters, general volume adjustments. Any reverbs, delays, choruses, etc built in?
Obviously not, since it's the SSL mixing board. You can however insert other waves plugs into this one
seems like ultimate workflow plugin.
The older Waves SSL strips are very good, but I recently got the Brainworx SSL 4000 E plugin and it's clearly superior. Unless I misunderstand, using the Brainworx SSL with Group Channels in Cubase can accomplish a very similar workflow to MixHub and probably better sound.
Hopefully the other major plugin manufacturers get on board with this design. I could really get into this workflow, but I would love to be able to try different console emulations instead of being limited to Chris'.
Can't get the demo to work in Studio One 4. Anyone have an issue with it opening up in their DAW?
So, probably not as sophisticated as the rest of you, but would this have me stop using all the plugins I've been using up to now? Or is it just something that "sits on top" of the channel mixes that I would do in Logic? Tx/hb
I added kick and snare... 8ch.=1 full bucket. 6 toms and 2 hihat. Next ride, room andoverheads... Can i have a bucket of 24channels please?
Best plugin I've seen in years
Better than bx SSL channel with TMT? I have Mercury so I already have it. Just curious to the comparison thoughts.
Thank You. Subbed!
can you add your third party plug-ins with this too?
Its Cool BUT On Waves Sit it Says ( Bucket View in the CLA Mix Hub is currently not supported in eMotion LV1, SoundGrid Studio and MultiRack ) So Does That Meen i Can Not Use it With My Digigrid iOS Interface As a Soundgrid Plugin ??? Thats Crap
I was dissapointed by that too. You can only use it standalone mode in soundgrid, which defeats the object of having a mixhub! I think i might stick with waves ssl and cla compressors in soundgrid then.
This will be perfect with a touch screen monitor.
If you insert a plugin in all the channels, can you see it in the bucket view too, or is it only on the individual strip?
You have to assign a bucket number in the channel view then the channel will appear
@@ProductionExpert hey man thanks for answering, but I'm asking about inserting a different Waves plugin, let's say the F6 eq. Will you be able to work on 8 F6 eqs at a time or will it only show on the individual channel strip?
What kind of CPU usage?
@@dirkmallwitz that is still significant? No?
@@dirkmallwitz thank you Dirk!
Its like mixing whith a mixer in your mixer while you mixing the mix ! (Inception)
What if you _want_ to solo or mute a channel you are working on? have to move the plugin out of the way to get to the DAW?
That’s correct
use two screens for your computer.
@@SHONROPER While that makes sense in general, and I do have 2 screens, only one is touch, I would like to make use of this plugin on the touchscreen along with the DAW interface. Plus, with a laptop or mobile scenario, dual screens may no be practical. BOTTOM LINE? It would be nice if the mute/solo functions were part of the plugin GUI.
acpllc3 Someone on gearslutz mentioned the whole idea behind it is to not solo / mute channels.
Another great video from Mr C, although i have to say that snare was sounding extremely boxy !!!
The speed of your workflow will increase drastically.
you can pan within this plugin
Do the faders affect the the DAW faders?
No
pretty much like NLS but with processing
Do you think they emulated separate channels?
But not really. It's more like an updated/expanded version of the SSL Channel plugin.
Danny Blau how about NLS with SSL E & G plugin ?
My drums are more than 8 channels. Had they made buckets of 16, it would work.
Just go between the buckets
That was fast, looks lovely
love how you explain things
tank you
It would be great to have the solo and mute buttons included. The absence of these totally breaks the workflow of the plugin.
Try mixing without the solo and mutes and you’ll find it does wonders for your mixes
Overhead EQ is bypassed.
Well spotted, the coolness of this plug-in made me all giddy and enthused to work the mix quickly
@@ProductionExpert It's cool!! I've been waiting to see something like this! Bout time the workflow change!!!
@@Bassaaron4 Let us know how you get on!
sounds better if it bypassed, it's a Waves plugin :D
@@Andreas_Ko_ lol!!
Great Video
Any CLA plugin is good? Except of course the 1176 which doesn't behave anything like a real one. Oh, and ......
When I first saw it, I said... “do I really need another SSL Plugin?” Obviously, No, but I had the same perspective: it’s not about the sound at this point... it really is about the workflow. I was sold! 💳😍🎚🎛💻
i prefer omni andrew scheps
And all for $29 occasionally ...
$69 intro pricing this time around
Maybe not. Some won't go to usd29, I have waiting more than a year for the nx to go down but it stayed usd99
@@fuzzfizz With their TODAY50 code it is 49 bucks
Great and simple
Wouldn't the best test be to put this one into comparison with lets say the Brainworx SSL plugin. Doing a blindtest with 100 people and see if anyone at all can spot what is what?
The answer is that no one can tell the difference. But does it matter? No. Use whatever plugin you like.
But even more important: Do a third comparison using only e.g. Fabfilter plugs and see if anyone can spot the difference.
The answer is: No. A professional mixing engineer knowing what to do don't need “analogue emulations” to get a good result.
no solo or mute the channel ? hmmm noooo maybe if one day they upgrade that I will get it but the concept is nice but dose little detail like not been able to solo or mute a Chanel, won't be getting this one at list not now I'm still going to try it but not buying it for the moment , I think Waves is going on the right direction maybe if they do that same concept with the SSL bundle and add the little things that are missing I think will be a game changer ,
How is the bucket idea any different to izotopes neutrons mixing? Only difference i see os Izotopes does ot in a more visual way
That and as always waves... Great price, always recommended products for quality to price ratio waves, not dissing u coz id rather thank u
But i feel this as been done more than u think it as x
I would imagine it's a cpu hog. Can any confirm? I havent demo'd it yet.
Chris Nix You guessed right, massive cpu hog, unusable for more than 8-10 tracks for me, Ryzen 2600x Cpu
a Neve would also be nice!
I woke up from sleep to this
so no pan or mute or solo? lol
Yeah... Agreed. It seems strange to omit those 2
Yo dont Need the Console one Controller to use The Plugin.. it works as a stand alone plugin
No pan knob. Doh!
Are you a beta tester ? That was quick :)
Wow.. Gotta get that..
Thanks
No buss compressor?! :(
Output the tracks in your DAW to a stereo aux track and use the waves ssl bus comp there
Production Expert thank you, I figured as much. But you have to admit that would of been a killer implementation of a full desk!
@@ProductionExpert Cant get the demo to open in Studio One 4 Pro. Is it supposed to be compatible?
I wonder how this will integrate with a C24 or D-Command. Does having this many parameters make it too much to be used with a control surface? Ill have to test it on my C24 tonight. I just bought the plugin at www.everyplugin.com for $56.00 using the YNY23 discount code. Will try it with the C24 tonight.
I tried it with my c24, this sadly doesn’t translate very well to the encoders but I didn’t expect it to as there are a lot of controls in this plug-in, especially when you use a lot of buckets and channels. C24 works best as a plugin controller when the plugins are super simple and stripped down
That is what I was afraid of @@ProductionExpert I rely heavily on the C24. I wonder if you can access just the channel strip on the encoders, as it states that in the manual you can use the plugin as a standard channel strip, without all the other functionality. Thanks for the feedback.
U can also do this with Izotope's Neutron.
Is it down to $29 yet?
No Mute or Solo buttons? Oh yeah, Logic and Pro Tools have them on their DAW already. Just pop out of the plug-in to mute/solo. What a joke!
Hi 2023 love it
Dan Cooooooooopeeeeeerrrrr !
Over hyped bx console did it years ago and still waves cant come close
I can't understand how this has any use as a daw mixer replacement when it doesn't have mute and solo.. you'll have to click back to your DAW to do so which entirely ruins the point. Another miss from Waves.
NO solo and mute buttons... I can't see it as an advantage really... Is this a joke?¿
It's ridiculous. Only someone who has learned mixing with the mouse in his hand could compare this to mixing at a real console.
There are other products which let you access the whole mix in full channel strips without any "buckets" and a mixer in a mixer.
No solo and mute .... the only downside. the rest rocks
I was mad I wasted my money on this and it beats CPU I have hella waves plugins but done with them team izotope now
4:55
Ha. Harrison Mixbus32c. Is the real deal waves thing is a knock off and not as user friendly...Harrison nailed it already. Save your money try Mixbus32c
clicking clicking clicking clicking clicking clicking clicking clicking clicking where is music? Always is about the wizard, not the wand!
Sold for 29$
"There are countless SSL console plugins out there".
No, there really aren't that many.
Plugin alliance, nuendo, uad has two, ik multimedia, native instruments, console 1, and now waves has two.
There's also the SAND plugin from Acustica audio. So yeah Chris there are quite a few
Slate does one as well
Nice
If i'm being honest, the bucket flow doesn't really suit me. I'd rather hop around channel to channel because I know exactly what i'm hearing and how to get there. I do like how they incorporated the 1176 and his EQ strips and that's about it. I feel like its more efficient just to get the SSL channel strip and call it a day. But then again, this plugin is cheaper and it offers more. Personal preference at this pointZ