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The Noise Iceberg
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2021
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Some of these albums contain material that is not suitable for all audiences. Proceed with caution.
This is a list with seven sections containing five albums each, some of them are meant for starters, and others for more experienced in the noise scene and its subgenres. But how deep does it go?
There are obivously lots of stuff left behing, feel free to suggest anything you feel it's appropiate for any of the categories.
Music and art in the intro by yours truly.
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Oh god I don’t know if I’m ready for this ....
You can do it, I believe in you!
Thanks for the recommendation ☺️
the noise iceberg goes from "internationally acclaimed legendary artist" to "my mate who self released one cassette and had 5 people at his last show" pretty quickly. in fact, often those two are one in the same
Wow I’m surprised that I actually know stuff in tier 3 and 4
As for tier 6 ... god give me strength later tonight when I explore those names
Tier 3 and 4 contain some well known albums, but are hard for newcomers to digest imo.
Wait 'til you reach tier 7, where some of the releases make Cock And Ball Torture track titles look tame in comparison.
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and my dumb ass thought gorenoise was about the most disturbing music can get lmao
Of course Wyatt is here.
@@SlyHikari03of course slyhikari03 is here😭😭
i love when an iceberg list becomes a shopping list.....
FOR REAL
What a great list. I am fascinated by Noise music and it's subgenres
I used to listen to metal and wanted to live in a decent two bedroom home, since I got into noise, my dream home is a warehouse with left over scrap metal everywhere.
Wow! I wasn't expecting that many aberrant and devastating noise recordings. This iceberg surely provides a big variety of them and i'm surely gonna listen to every one of them and its artists's other recordings. Great iceberg video and i'm looking forward for an even better and disturbing second part!
Age Restriction Warnings should just be "Watching this video before the age of maturity is not in the interest of your mental development and health".
You're amazing man.. love the reviews on your channel and.. well doing a noise iceberg is just inspired.. well done, top job and bravo
Thank you so much for the kind words!
@@Alpha27music always welcome friend. I've thought it about your channel for a long long time.. no one does noise reviews... And you do them very well. I never tend to comment on people's videos but thought for once I'd better show some appreciation! You're one of very few (my ideal version of Anthony fantano.. a watchable version aha)
All the best to you
I'll stay in the starter pack/casual noise fan brackets thank you. I've had an interest in noise music or music incorporating noise for a very long time but yeah when it gets into shock territory, I mostly tap out. Very interesting video though!
I've always picked up some random stuff from harsh noise and death industrial. Now thanks to you I have a proper guide
THANK YOU SO MUCH I was buying each album you were mentioning >~
God Bird Seed is such an awesome album, it was my gateway into noise and I’d say some of it is even catchy in a fucked up way lol
Superb selection. I added 95% of it to my two noise music files. The fact that gorenoise even exists makes me think that hanging around to see what comes out of the people who think that gorenoise is getting stale...is a really good idea.
Bro, I loved every second of this video wtf - great choices!
For anyone new I highly recommend Nicole 12 - Balerina
Thank you for featuring Tsundere Violence releases~!
Tsundere violence is such a neat label.
Making Orange things is a cool album as well.
This was delightful. I do think the absence of John Duncan way near the bottom was something of a missed opportunity-although even Duncan himself finds *that* conversation an upsetting one-but regardless, I think that this was an extremely strong list. Good catches on the Niku Daruma split, Constant Shallowness Leads to Evil and Asshole/Snail Dilemma in particular. Personally, for historical and/or preference reasons depending, I think I would have had the following as well: SPK's Information Overload Unit or Leichenschrei, Throbbing Gristle's Second Annual Report, Maurizio Bianchi's Mectpyo Blut, Sutcliffe Jügend's The Hunger, Controlled Bleeding's Knees & Bones, The Haters' In the Shade of Fire, Incapacitants' Repo, The New Blockaders' Changez Les Blockeurs, the Hentaitenno/What A Smell split cassette, Nord's Electronic Initiation, Bull of Heaven's 109: Boxes of Scorpions Released by Tripwire, Richard Ramirez' Memorial, Keiji Haino's Ama no Gawa, Wolf Eyes' Human Animal, Diamanda Galás' The Divine Punishment, the (A)Sex/RDCD split record, Junko's The Void, maybe a few edge cases like Current 93's Dogs Blood Rising or Supersilent's 1-3… I don't know where you would place any of those, though, although I would have to believe Hentaitenno, RDCD and The New Blockaders would be a lot lower than TG or even The Haters.
P.S. It's worth noting that given everything I've heard about Mike Dando of Con-Dom, he's quite far from being a bigot himself, but more created the project to try to understand how people with extreme and repulsive ideas think and how those ideas, well, control people. You'll notice how as the releases go on he became less and less interested in pure shock content and focused more on structural violence, as on albums like The Beautiful. How Welcome… is definitely his most personal, however.
Thank you for taking the time to make this comment.
I actually haven't heard any John Duncan works so far, I must check him out.
I'm aware of many of the albums you mentioned, however I personally feel that some of them don't really fit with the noise criteria. But still there are releases that I should check out.
I'm aware that Mike Dando might not be a bigot himeself, it's just easy to see with some of his early works why people will come up with that conclusion.
@@Alpha27music Thanks! ^w^
Duncan's stuff is really spooky. Very minimal and low-key for the most part, but otherworldly and disturbing both sonically and conceptually. Incidentally, it's interesting how a lot of horrifying and innovative noise comes from conceptual and performance artists; the folks from the Schimpfluch-Gruppe like Rudolf Eb.er and Dave Phillips also come to mind, among many others.
Yeah, I can understand how some of those fall outside the strict noise purview. The Hunger is a good example. I'd say it definitely participates in the same conversation given SJ's history and importance to the scene, but it's hard to categorise and has only a few really noisy cuts. An album where they were still more solidly anchored in power electronics like With Extreme Prejudice or something much earlier such as the infamous We Spit On Their Graves would probably make more sense… but I couldn't help but shout it out. It's one of my favourite albums of all time, and first listening to it was maybe the most emotional I've ever gotten listening to extreme experimental music.
As for Mike Dando, yeah, his early stuff has *definitely* given a lot of people the wrong impression, and entirely understandably so. Con-Dom is definitely one of those acts which requires a lot of disclaimers which make it very difficult to recommend to those of us who have not indeed Seen Some Shit.
wall of text, didnt read ♡
@@pinksucccubusYour loss, honestly. I seem to be having a lot more fun than you are.
Highly recommend the band Kollaps and the album Mechanical Christ (ffo: power-electronics/post-industrial) and Yasuyuki Uesugi's album My Thinking Is Different From The Common Sense Of Society, which for someone who like Yasuyuki has autism, hits home and almost makes it painful
Thanks for including gorenoise, but a much better gorenoise release imo is Craniorachischisis by Craniorachischisis, wich isn’t just the cyber gorenoise and uses real drums and electric guitar, and even harsher, fear inducing vocals. Probably my fav gorenoise album, and isn’t just an ultra fast drum machine over a distorted Bandlab keyboard. Has real dynamics and seems to have more layered emotions
Thank you for the recommendation! I just listened to it and this is actually pretty sick!
yeah looking at it, if noise music didn't exist industrial and rock are the closest to it. Noise is a common element for both. Industrial took influences from various avant garde influences and made them extreme and dark . Early Industrial like throbbing gristle have full on noise tracks as well. Industrial tends to use noise to create weird and eerie sounds focusing on soundscapes. Distortion and noise is a basic element for rock music as well (espescially its harder styles like metal and punk) and the more extreme and heavy it gets the noisier it gets. Rock tends to use these elements in a more straight forward/in your face manner. Japanoise bands like merzbow really have that rock n roll philosophy and try to assault you with as much distortion ,loudness and feedback possible. Noise is the logical conclusion of both genres. I’d rank in orders of closeness and contribution too the genre
1. Rock
2. Industrial
3. Electronic
4. Other avant garde
Interesting picks. "Deepest" thing on here I've ever heard is the 150 Murderous Passions album, which I actually picked up pretty early into my noise journey due to the Nurse With Wound connection.
Such a great release, one of the rarest and most expensive CDs I bought, but totally worth it.
@@Alpha27music I guess I got lucky, I don't remember exactly what I paid for it but it would have been a pretty typical price for a used CD in the 2000s. Decided to throw it on tonight after having probably not played it in over 10 years, and yep, this is some rather disturbing "outcast noise"!
Amazing video. So many more artists I’ve never heard of before. For sure gonna be listening to em all. Thank you!
amazing iceberg literally unbelievable but I’m still worked up why bird seed is so low like I get the themes and sounds is a bit dark but compared to some of the stuff on the 3rd tier no where near as bad
I dont know how I found this video but now I know some noise bands
this is one of the video that you find in 3 am and is actually *good*
Yoo this looks interesting and I really love watching these iceberg video formats , cheers.
Currently going down the Noise music rabbit hole and having a great time.
please don't dive too deep
I got into noise through grindcore/noisecore, good stuff thanks for the iceberg i'll check it all out sometime
i'm not very into noise but thanks to this video i met a buch underrated gems
One that I have found is Red Light (13) - Red Light from the label Institute of Paraphilia Studies. I got the cassette a while back and it is one of the few noise albums I have found that interests me. It is quite brutal, harsh noise mixed with someone reading out horrific crimes that have taken place. So glad I accidentally bought it, but I'll have to give these you have shown a try! I have always found noise interesting, however few things within the genre hold my interest. However when they do it can be quite a unique and memorable experience I must admit!
Thanks for including the names of the bands and albums on this through the video as you name them. I’m a dumbass and can’t spell for shit so there have been many times where I just give up looking for a band or project because I can’t figure out the spelling. You are god.
Naming artists and albums was always essential for me.
3:00 Tauromachine is another good starting point for Merzbow IMO. Has more dynamics than Pulse Demon. (Pulse Demon is still really good, though)
13:10 haha this guy is a teacher at my cities university of music and art :D
Where can I find the Tumbling Doll Of Flesh album? Can't find it anywhere.
It's been down for a while unfortunately.
Thanks for making this list. There are definitely some artists on it, I want to check out.
So proud, that an album from Tsundere Violence made it in to your list. XD
I’ve been looking for an avenue to start listening to noise music and this was the perfect video to stumble upon
Oh wow, I only recognize 6 of these albums, cool to see venetian snares on there. Gonna listen to them all!
Oh shit Harsh Noise Movement. Back in 2016, that was my introduction to them, I was affiliated with them for a short period and we did a few splits with my project Natihil
thank you so much for this video! 🖤 ... just finished "messed up stuff" and going back for the last level!
THANK YOU FOR THIS. I’m on a big weird music kick and this is gold.
I'm quite late, but your video is phenomenal! Good job.
very informative video! i'm new to noise and this is perfect.. that prurient sounded really interesting. i think i'll start with the easier stuff :D
the starter pack section definitely helped me get into more noise music.
i was aware of noise music but didnt really start listening to it, but with this i do.
as i had first heard phantasmagoria by c.c.c.c. which i didnt really enjoy, but pita's get out was my second which i liked but wished at the time i heard it wasnt that distorted.
thank you sir for introducing me to more noise
one thing, where would the silence hurts the most by body stress go?
Thank you for the kind words, really appreciate it!
I just listened to the Body Stress album, quite decent, thanks for the reccomendation. It's somewhere between tiers 3 and 4 for me.
can you do a video on the really disturbing parts of underground power electronics music artists and live performance antics
Great video, here from wyattxhim
the eroge fanatic based
Wyattxhim brought me here
150 murderous passions is def the heaviest shit i know . this ain't even metal anymore.
silly me, starting backwards, nah but all jokes aside I did start from the 6th tier as in I got into noise because of those bands and progressively went up and so now I can only go to the depths, amazing video though thanks for it
my journey may have started a long time ago but i still apperently miss out on some good one, thanks for suggestions man,
im not really into the messed up ones though, experienced enough ptsd from the internet to not even be curious lol
Wise choice, no need to get into stuff you know you can't handle.
Appreciate the feedback!
great vid, missed incapacitants and c.c.c.c. on it though.
Im kinda suprised the cartaker wasnt anywhere on this iceberg
If you are gonna remake this vid then put him in starter pack because he made people realise that noise music exists
This is literally the first time I've heard of this take.
happy i found your video, lotta great artists i need to look up
Excellent video! We needed this
Thanks a lot, really appreciate it!
surprised i didn't see peter sotos on this list
Peter Sotos has been a member of Whitehouse but he didn't make noise. He was only making collages of hideous recordings.
A wasted opportunity to call it 'The Noise-berg.' smh
Great video! Loving it
Noise that has a "theme", or is "about" something, is all casual tier.
Incredible list! Im surprised how much i knew on this list. Heard a few Con-dom albums and collabs but not this piece on tier 6. Braving myself for this rather depressive looking album. Also out of interest where would you put G.R. by Deathpile? Its a classic and im not sure where i think it belongs on here
Glad you enjoyed! G.R. is a classic indeed, I would probably put it at tier 3 or 4, mainly because the concept and the sound is certainly off-putting for newcomers.
@@Alpha27music Yeah the content really made me question what tier it would fit in
I could've lived my life without knowing about the last tier. Some of that stuff was so deeply concerning and terrifying. DO NOT LOOK INTO IT.
I agree, it dropped me on my ass and I threw up
thanks for this list, this is really interesting to see as someone that's only lightly into the noise world. would any of Pauline Oliveros' work be considered noise music? really would like to find more stuff that sounds like The Day I Disconnected The Erase Head and Forgot to Reconnect It, there's such a power to that track and much of her music.
Anything musique concrete related is worth checking out. Artists like Iannis Xenakis, Pierre Henry, Luc Ferrari have some really fascinating and forward thinking stuff for the time.
@@Alpha27music thanks so much for your reply! love musique concrete. feel like my own music is sort of a digital version of it, lots of captured sounds. haven't found anything quite like Pauline but I will give those artists a go
I don't really understand how endo is bellow masonna and some other choices haha, but whatever it works. Never expected to see venta protesix on an iceberg video
Good list man
Holy crap, and I thought Sutcliffe Jugend, Brighter Death Now and Deathpile were hectic...
I come from powervoilence and more metal and I still after delving into noise I can't just get into it I don't really get the appeal. Great video though really informative and a very fun video thank you man
Mostly listen to metal as well, noise for me is too much as of now. The body, Full of hell, Portal, Gnaw Their Tongues, MZ. 412, The Skull Defekts (2018), Lingua Ignota and Anaal Nathrakh's eariler stuff just to name a few. This is where i can say i'm comfortable right now, for me this is ''noise'' they all have something that can can resemble noise it in some way.
@@votten9238 well if you like those artists you may like the death industrial artist atrax morgue a good album to start out with would be paranoia with songs like you drive you try and leave me alone and high heels inside my throat being my fav songs off the album and the album itself is one of his less noisy albums and death industrial is like extreme industrial music but it have more of a dark vibe to it so it like doom metal in that where it more so focus on making that dark vibe
@@votten9238what do you think of Konflict and Tetragrammacide who mix Noise with Death or Black Metal? Can that be considered Noise or is it still too structured? I'm into extreme metal and Grindcore, but extremely new to the noise side of things. But I love those 2 bands I mentioned.
Nice Iceberg, tho I missed bands like Hijokaidan or The Gerogerigegege.
An album from The Gerogerigegege is contained in the list. As for Hijokaidan, I'd probably put their works between tiers 2 and 3.
@@Alpha27music Ah I see, just glanced over it
Does anyone have the Harsh Noise Movement - Niku daruma album. I can't find it anywhere, and their bandcamp seems to be nuked....
The HNM Badcamp page has gone down in multiple occasions. I hope it comes back again sometime soon.
@@Alpha27music ahh never realised, thanks. And also thanks for great recommendations!!
Great iceberg, now I have some interesting stuff to check out! I'm a big Atrax Morgue/Marco Corbelli fan, in your opinion to which tier he belongs?
I'd say somewhere between C and D tier. His output was quite disturbing to be everyone's cup of tea. Thanks for watching!
IT FINALLY HERE!!!!
I see you like Mgła. Did you ever heard about Schmerz? It's a noise project of Mikołaj from Mgła. As far as I know he made only one release but I just wanted to tell you about that
just reading the title and not knowing what this is must be confusing
I really enjoyed the video. I'm coming g to this, because I got into Konflict and Tetragrammacide recently. 2 Bands from India and Sri Lanka. Konflict seem to be a mix of death metal with noise. And Tetragrammacide mixes Black Metal with Noise.
Do you know them? Is what I hear there considered Noise music? Because if it were, Noise could very well be for me. Thank you for introducing me to the genre!
I know both of these groups, they are closer to a sound of cybergrind, with the blends you described, but yeah, you can consider them noise in some sense. Though don't expect many stuff like this getting into the albums I mention.
@@Alpha27music Thank you!
I would have put Damien Dubrovnik in Intellectual, Koufar in man of culture and Black Leather Jesus in outcast in my personal opinion :) I knew Merz and Prurient was gonna be in casual haha.
dang you know your stuff
do dm and bm icebergs too plz
nice vid :) one recommendation, check out some Wold records, hardcore stuff
Already heard Wold, some decent stuff, but also a few misses for me.
ANGEL005:ELIZA is my fav noise artist, Japanese girl who makes some funky stuff
Great video. Where would artists on shitwank records like passenger of shit, rancid shit want, doodleinacocoon etc fit in your opinion?
Probably somewhere between the tiers 4 and 5. Their stuff can be pretty disturbing and not easy to digest.
I us3d to listen to a lot of power electronics and industrial noise but stopped because I realized it was a method of coping and distracting myself.
Never the less I'm a little disappointed you didn't include any of the following artists:
Ambient: Anenzephalia, Megaptera, Puce Marry or Graham Bowers
Industrial: Sabes (rat album), iminent starvation, mono no aware, operant or sonar
Pure harshnoise: Deathpile
Puce Mary would have made it into the introduction tier, Anenzephalia would probably be at second tier.
Operant is more of like an industrial techno project to fit in here.
Deathpile's GR woul probably make it in the 3rd tier. A classic in the scene, but not for like a first introduction.
Dude hypermagic mountain is simply the best noise album I’ve ever heard ever in my life 😂 it’s noise right idek I don’t know enough about this shit
What do you think of HMM?
Great video!!!!
The fact I knew all of the artists in the first row gets me excited for the rest of it!!
Nice iceberg, I would like to recommend a little Russian noise. Firstly, it is one of the pioneers - Alexander Lebedev-Frontov, ALF, packer 1. He began his experiments in 78, but the earliest surviving albums were recorded in 1985. His most famous projects are: "Linija mass" - a more industrial project, texts are different words operators, long loops are used. " Vetrophonia" is a joint project with other noisy artist Nick Soudnick, more abstract, less noisy (recording of a joint performance is available on my channel). Also interesting are the projects 91, "Пила - Гипнотическая фаза" / "Drink - Hypnotic phase" and "Dead hippies". The first - avant-garde, no wave album, the second mixture of punk, industrial and metal. Also he was an artist (see there), many compare him to Giger, but if you understand in their paintings there are many differences and did, I don’t know what to call it, drawing over frames, you can see his works on the channel Ultrasomnambula U ( where there are more subscribers)
Where’s Lou Reed?
MMM >
100th comment, well done. I see this Con-Dom cover I know I'm in right place.
There's one level even deeper than "How the f did I end up here?", namely STALAGGH.
Stallagh is at tier 4 or 5 for me due to their popularity in certain underground scenes.
Should I be concerned that I like the whole last row
Probably.
when are we gonna get a non-black metal fan noise tier list
womp womp womp
Amazing video!
Ok but... I literally can't find some of these anywhere so it seems I'll never experience them.
Slsk is your friend.
noise on top :3
While I get it would mess up for the search engine and algorithms, it's certainly a missed opportunity to not call this video "The Noiceberg"
Noise master
interesting
as someone who's seen some disturbing artwork lemme tell ya, when you gave that warning about the Jesus Christ artwork i was like "pft doubt it" and i googled it and immediately went "Oh fuck oh woah woah oh backspace backspace delete fuck"
EDIT: yo that Mama Bar side is fucked holy shit...
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shitler grind noise
Love that so much
Suprised I didn't see Passenger of Shit here!
no ramleh tho?
Ramleh albums would go somewhere around 2nd and 3rd tier. Pretty decent for somewhat entry level noise.