TIER 1: Accessible Industrial 1:48 Nine Inch Nails Skinny Puppy Ministry Rammstein Rob Zombie Marilyn Manson KMFDM Swans TIER 2: Club Industrial 4:20 :wumpscut: Front Line Assembly Suicide Commando Nitzer Ebb Front 242 Aesthetic Perfection And One Covenant Combichrist TIER 3: Expansive Industrial 6:42 Death Grips Clipping JPEGmafia Dälek The Beatnigs Alien Sex Fiend Health Atari Teenage Riot Machine Girl Youth Code Psychic Tv Maenad Vale Coil Techno Animal Zonal TIER 4: Aggressive Industrial 19:30 Godflesh Author & Punisher Nailbomb Street Sects Big Black B L A C K I E Black Hand Path Panic DHH VoidDweller The Shizit TIER 5: Nightmare Industrial 27:34 Lingua Ignota The Body MZ. 412 Trepaneringsritualen Diamanda Galás The Haxan Cloak Warning TIER 6: True Industrial 35:40 Throbbing Gristle Einstürzende Neubauten Whitehouse Zev Suicide SPK Nurse with Wound Current 93 Cromagnon Pierre Schaeffer TIER 7: Death Industrial 45:25 Brighter Death Now The Grey Wolves Genocide Organ Deathpile Ramleh Atrax Morgue
My honorable mentions Killing Joke OhGr Motionless In White Bachxwash Ho99o9 Die Krupps Daughters The Young Gods Thorns (the band) Pitchshifter Iperyt Show Me the Body Saul Williams Scorn (the band) Smegma (the band) Test Dept The Residents Xiu Xiu Black Mass Caroliner (the band) Jk Flesh Yves Tumor Andy Stott Ben Frost Vatican Shadow The Buttress (Neofolk) Death In June NON aka Boyd Rice Laibach Of The Wand and The Moon Kiss The Anus of a Black Cat (Nu Metal) Fear Factory Static X 3Teeth (Djent aka Math Metal) (They in to Progressive Metal and they sound like industrial metal music) Meshuggah Car Bomb Periphery SikTh Cloudkicker Tesseract (the band) (Cyber Metal) Sybreed …And Oceans Khonsu (Trap Metal) $uicideboy$ Ghostemane Scarlxrd Prxjek Lil Darkie (Digital Hardcore) Alec Empire Christoph De Babalon The Mad Capsule Rabbit Junk (Speedcore) (& It a Breakcore sound like industrial music) The Quick Brown Fox Diabarha Nasenbluten (Splittercore/Terrorcore) (& It a Breakcore sound like industrial music) Passenger of Sh*t ScreamerClauz (Power Noise) Esplendor Geométrico Pan Sonic Dreamcrusher (Witch House) Alice Glass Salem Sidewalks and Skeletons (Death Industrial aka Dark Noise) Sutcliffe Jügend Prurient Gnaw Their Tongues Controlled Bleeding Hair Police (the band) And More That It
And One More my honorable mentions too (Martial Industrial) ROME (the band) Les Joyaux de la Princesse In Slaughter Natives Der Blutharsch And That It Is Over
I mean he could go on and on, just like I can, its music! And yes Triarii is awesome definitely support them, Die Weisse Rosse would probably fit on that list as well. Forget Von Throstal and Arditi though. Triarri does it better without the political BS.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Martial Industrial is a direct predecessor of neofolk, which is linked to the original industrial music. For that it is a major offshoot of the original concept. I would also include John Cage’s audio experiment as the proto industrial music.
@@Mister_5150 I only have watched her recently (past two years) and enjoyed her newer stuff. She's very unique and I imagine her older content had a charm that may have been lost along the way
@@hypnovertigo7200 she has this collab with nightmind that was really good, I was more use to that content. I think I tried to look for her channel again & got confused. Her new content is too glammy for me if you understand what I’m saying.
@@hypnovertigo7200 She honestly comes off as very edgy tryhard to me with the oh I'm so dark and corky attitude. Since then I lost interest in her, I liked her older stuff, because it was unique with the robot and everything.
I definitely agree with KMFDM being a great gateway band. The 90s albums are fantastic. They also have a good mix of both guitar/riff oriented songs and more synth/drum machine oriented songs
i feel like it's the only one with a big scene because of the mood and atmosphere it creates, and not because it's structurally similar like Wyatt said. there's a big overlap with gothic rock, industrial, alternative, ebm, trip hop, black metal etc.
@@lostangel17 cause goth clubs usually have two sections. The more aggressive electronic and industrial section made for the riveters (Rivet Heads), cybergoths, steampunk that are more modern and the old school goth, darkwave, alternative, deathrock and post-punk styles
void dweller also need more recognition a good ep of their would be the war on christmas and you can find it on youtube and oh yeah void dweller have a youtube channel
There's a sub category worth checking out called "Power Noise". It's basically heavily distorted rhythms & elements of noise to create this intense experience. Acts to check out would be Converter, Winterkalte, W.A.S.T.E., Monokrom, Asche & Noisex. Also pretty much anything on ant-zen records, hive, hands & hymen records. This subgenre doesn't get much discussion since the heydays of the scene kinda died around 2010 but damn is it worth driving in to.
Im so happy you mentioned voiddweller they are very underatted . Also if your interested there's this industrial hip hop called tokyo deathwatch, there the most extreme industrial hip hop group mixing it with harsh noise
Love the Strawberry Switchblade shirt! I really like industrial music, more of the goth and metal variety, so I got a few new recommendations and few reminders to check out. Still, can I define industrial music? heck no. Also the close connection neofolk and industrial seem to have is interesting.
"True industrial" needs to include Maurizio Bianchi, massive influence on all the industrial/death ambient in Italy, the Mauthausen Orchestra, Atrax Morgue, Morder Machine, Sodality, Ain Soph...etc
I totally agree with you. Maurizio Bianchi has always defined the boundaries and variety of electronic music for me. A man who can make the Holocaust somewhat comprehensible through the sheer claustrophobic brutality of sound and then go make some of the most complex and beautiful ambient music I've ever heard is truly the cutting edge imo. His variety amazes me with every album.
Thanks for the great video! I have always been a fan of KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, Machine Girl and Atari Teenage Riot but I had never heard of 'Death Industrial' before. It is safe to say that I have fallen down a rabbit hole and I have been listening to a lot of Atrax Morgue since watching this.
This is fucking awesome! Industrial is probably my favourite genre (COIL4EVA) and you did it justice here. Also, your channel in general is amazing and pretty much got me listening to black metal again after years away. Keep it up, dude!
Coil are probably my favourite band of all time. Just such a wide variety of sounds and styles all executed wonderfully. Requiescat in pace Jhonn and Peter…
Thank you so much for this video! I awlays liked industrial/electronic elements in metal (Blacklodge, Mysticum, Iperyt, Godflesh) or Califonian rhymic noise project W.A.S.T.E., but I didn't know, how to start to explore this genre in its entirety, so you helped me a lot. EDIT: Wumpscut, Front Line Assembly and Scorn are awesome!
Atrax Morgue is one of the most disturbing thing that someone can actually listen to. I dare anyone to listen to any of his records, sitting in the dark, with this music playing in your headphones, and not feel some kind of straight anxiety or utter discomfort. This guy truly captured these raw, strange and deranging emotions into his records.
I want a post metal iceberg ngl. Thank you for making these, so entertaining. Its rare i learn something new from a video like this but you pull that off a lot!
The most pissed off Aggressive industrial record that Broadrick ever made was "disconnected" by greymachine( JKB and aaron turner from isis), makes godflesh sound tame.
Greymachine is great and one of the few interesting things Turner has done, but no it hardly makes Godflesh lame. Its more Noise Sludge though akin to Khanate and even Trees.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Did I say lame? I said tame, would never say lame as Wyatt knows from where we've spoken before godflesh are my all time fave band would never say anything so blasphemous.
You could have a whole Tier dedicated to Cold Meat Industry and it would be appropriate. The Atrax Morgue at the very end was surprising, as it's difficult to hear anyone out side of obscure death industrial blog spots long gone today to ever mention anything of that crazy gay Italian genius psycho. Ever since he influenced my music creation... People(the mundane regular folk) have really amped up the disdain and disgust in ANYTHING I've put out since. A blessing in disguise. And also the Coil love in the middle of the video... immediate subscriber type content, dude.
@@wyattxhim it's a unique label because of all the different types of sub-genres of industrial AND the creator of it works with some of the projects as well. Roger Karmanik. Alongside his own project, Brighter Death Now. (I Have to say this: CMI's Raison d'être's early releases sound like Monk dark ambient/industrial, it's like apocalyptic dark ambient with monks chanting... it's oddly satisfying once you acquire a taste for such atmospheric and dark landscapes... I think is best experienced behind basic life tasks, the way you have to listen and appreciate it the most is by trying not to listen. It does something to your neuron activity and something flicks a switch and you become hooked to these weird religious like soundscapes, Prospectus I)
Another strong recommendation for death industrial: Schloss Tegal. Their album "The Grand Guignol" is one of the most nightmarish, bleak and depressive albums I know of
I'm still a fan of the aggrotech/industrial bands from the early 2000s. Dawn of Ashes is still going strong and their sound has changed over the years, but are going back to the industrial sound (Mick Kenney from Anaal Nathrakh has produced and played guitar on a couple of their albums). Still listen to Psyclon Nine, not sure if Nero managed to get off drugs or not yet, hopefully they'll put out more stuff. Still love NIN since my teens in the 90s too. 3TEETH is easily accessible and are pretty good too.
You hit the nail on the head with how u described Atrax Morgue. I first discovered him on TH-cam years ago when I was still in high school and was mesmerized by that stuff; still am lol
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the band Static-X in the Accessible Industrial tier, given that they're often brought up alongside Rob Zombie, Rammstein and the like, or Pitchshifter in Aggressive Industrial, since they were active during the same time that Godflesh and Ministry were doing their thing. I was hoping to see bands and projects like Celldweller, Blue Stahli, Scorngrain, Turmion Katilot, Neurotech, Fear of Domination, Deathstars, Shade Empire, T3CHN0PH0B14, and The Kovenant, to name a few, brought up in this video, but then again, despite often being labelled as industrial metal, they honestly lean more towards cyber metal despite their industrial influences. That aside, I'd like to bring up Dodheimsgard and Evelyn for those who are interested in hearing experimental black metal projects that utilize a lot of industrial elements in their music, and though this project isn't industrial, I still think it's worth mentioning Gonemage, who make what is essentially black metal in chiptune form.
I agree, plus with bands like Circle of Dust and Rabbit Junk. But I guess there's only so much he can talk about the more 'lighthearted' or 'accessible' stuff, being that the main subject of these iceberg vids are the more disturbing/underground music acts
I'm quite surprised neither oomph! nor die krupps weren't on here, like maybe around tier 2, 3 or maybe 4. They both started out as a mixture of ebm and industrial metal and are major influences for rammstein. Lot of people would argue fear factory should be here if we are at it.
Thank you for this as I’m quite behind on your stuff because I’m taking every artist literal in exploring. Each being another one of the over 1000 bookmarked so when it’s a familiar face’s discography its finally beating procrastinating. Thank you 🙏 again and for the Maenad Veyl introduction upon starting the xhim journey! Another artist worth everyone’s time whose a part of the “tr00” type I don’t see get enough recognition is Test Dept. Strapping Young Lad too. And Type O Negative has honourable industrial moments.
Thank you so much for this video. I've been wanting more of detailed explanations with historical contexts about industrial music. I've listened to most of artists/bands you mentioned in death Industrial, accessible industrial and aggressive industrial. I checked out Panic DHH, Void Dweller and some mentions from club industrial after this video. I admit that I don't know industrial music very well and your insights helped me to understand what makes an artist/band industrial little better although I'm still confused about it as before. At least, I'm starting to understand it.
Something I tend to get a kick out of is that whenever I watch videos that discuss things like industrial, I always get this ad for the "skull shaver".
Also, Suicide is very much an American analogue of Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle. They were doing the same goddamn thing at the same goddamn time (you could argue that DEVO was doing it as well… they’ve got tapes from the early 70s that were just as out there). I love Suicide and I’m a staunch defender of Martin Rev’s first solo LP. I think it’s a masterpiece of ambient techno that, while maybe y’all don’t like it, was clearly influential on folks like Richard D. James, Stefan Betke and Wolfgang Voigt. It’s SO GOOD!!
Having been creating industrial music and production for a while now I'll add that 1 stylistic thing of industrial is that it has a machine like sound. Like a factory or tools. Its got a machine like flow to it, as well as all the experimentation and stuff. Its such a massive genre and its one of my all time favorites.
You should do a power electronics or power violence discussion video! I've always been interested in the genre but no idea where to even start and you seem to know a good amount about it.
Maaaaan, great video. Cheers for including Big Black. I totally agree with you on them. I missed Laibach and Foetus, but you can't name 'em all and you made me discover many cool acts. :D
Yes this is a BIG one for early industrial and I just found out about them a couple years ago, when I got a chance to see them. They are one of those bands that at the time are a massive influence, but people just forgot.
Im honestly surprised by how many of these I knew and had albums of. I would mention Curse of the Golden Vampire maybe around tier 3 or 4 although you had already mentioned alec empire and justin broadrick work. It's so good. Also ground zero around tier 3. Very sample heavy with guitar and turntable work. This iceberg ruled!
I have a great deal of love for Current 93's early industrial material, particularly Dogs Blood Rising. "Raio no Terrasu (Jesus Wept)" is just such a wild concatenation of sounds. Genuinely horrific stuff.
@@NeroAngelo616 Their late stuff is also great. Don't get it twisted. It just appeals to slightly different sensibilities for me, although the same animating principle is there (quite literally).
@@NeroAngelo616 I mean, it's fine if you don't like their later work, but you don't have to be a weird jerk about other people having different tastes from you.
Just a few more: Haus Arafna, MLWTTKK, Punish Yourself, Cyanotic, Wumpscutt, Android Lust, Unter Null, Uberbyte, Non, This Morn Omina, Yelworc, Vomito Negro. Sorry I just don't have the time to categorize them. BTW, great discussion.
fantastic job on this, impressive. really happy with some of the inclusions I think most would overlook, like stretching Big Black in there - agree! got some great recs too.
I would have used the term metal industrial over aggressive but that is just me. All industrial is aggressive man! Accessible I would add Gravity Kills, but I would DEFINITELY not have Swans on the list next to KMFDM! Club you got to have VNV Nation and Apotygma Berzerk. In the industrial metal list Crawl, Skrew (members of NIN and Zombie), and Cold World is mandatory. Love the Death Industrial list a lot of my favorite bands. Also I would add a black industrial tier and move MZ 412 on that, adding Empire Auriga and Nagelfar. Add En Nihil to death industrial as well! Oh man and Terror Cell Unit but they are quite different. I can't help but keep adding to this...not even sure where I would include Sanctum and Burial Hex but some of my favorite shirt. Also Dark Ambient should be on here, Desiderii Marginis, raison d'etre, and more. Awesome Switchblade shirt! Always enjoy your videos, and obviously adding my thoughts to them! Also had to add a cool story of my goth days. Rudy from Wumpscut DJ'd a club night in Norfolk, this was probably 2001. Dalek is a great industrial hip hop group highly recommend!
A band I like quite a bit used a shopping cart as an instrument, among other objects. I like older Ministry and KMFDM quite a bit. I tend to like industrial and metal mixed,like Red Harvest, who was influenced by Ministry. I also think Clock DVA is pretty good.
Kluster’s album “Klopfzeichen” would’ve fit perfectly in true industrial, Throbbing Gristle owe a lot of their career to them & this is some chilling shit. The fact it came out in 1970 is insane.
Really enjoyed this video, I always get a bunch of great music when you do these so thanks. What do you think about making a Noise iceberg next? Idk if you're into Noise enough to make one but i'd like one for sure.
Just liked every single post that shared out more stuff. This video has helped all of our muscial journeys more and its wonderful to see. Edited the hell out of my late night posts too so sorry for the engrish. Some more recs to mind are Xotox - Die Unruhe (Power Noise) and Dirge - Elysian Magnetic Fields (atmospheric sludge).
I have the Einstürzende Neubauten logo tattooed on my arm. There has never been a more expansive, innovative and at the same time consistent group, and there will probably never be
Neubauten was possibly the weirdest band I’ve ever heard. Also, pretty sure it’s pronounced “ein stur zein (the e is pronounced like how it is in the word (eye) noi bow ten”.
I saw Tool VIP 2nd row center January 2020, just before the pandemic. Author and Punisher opened for them. The bass was so loud it was uncomfortable. Like it was almost in the realms of danger music
Don’t forget B L A C K I E and Dälek who are both direct influences on Death Grips sound…like they almost straight jacked it and their predecessors deserve more recognition
The only album I've listened to on here was Bodycount thanks to Pad Chennington and it was pretty good. Definitely got lots of to check out! Thank you for another great video Wyatt!
Scanning all the other comments, thank you for sharing as most I don’t believe I’ve already bookmarked which is astonishing if I’m right. If I can share any more as a way of gratitude I’d recommend: Chu ishikawa - Tetsuo trilogy. Akira Yamaoka - Silent Hill (1 in particular for this topic). Axis of Perdition - Deleted Scenes From The Transition Hospital. Blut Aus Nord - Thematic Emancipation…. & MoRt. Filmmaker - Vlad Tapes. N.K.V.D. - Totalitarian Industrial Oppression. Godkiller - The End Of The World.
Head of David is an interesting case. I suspect they were aiming for the accessible Industrial Rock tier, but were two years too early. Their interpretation of this style takes on Sludge, Stoner Doom, HC Punk and Noise Rock influences. JK Broadtrick was briefly part of the band. To me, the Cubanate tune Body Burn sounds a lot like Head of David mixing Metal guitars with EBM/Industrial beats. Cubanate is another interesting combo for the Club or Expansive Industrial tier. I recommend this new album by Blush Response: th-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_kPrprYj-T_X1MNu9_R1UxZBovzTrmYJAA.html&si=RTjl5o7WD-QlWlCm Top notch IDM and Industrial Techno with two features from Cubanate vocalist Marc Heal. The whole Industrial Techno angle was pretty lacking in the video.
JPEG cites Throbbing Gristle as inspo, or at least fw them heavy. Veteran and everything beforehand definitely have an "Industrial approach" to Trap music and They still approach it that way here and there, but obviously branched out to an even more expanded reach of genres since AMHAC P.S. been very curious of your opinion on Machine Girl
holy shit, really appreciate the Maenad Veyl love. i once made a crappy remix of Twelve Regions from Body Count and sent it to him and his response was very positive. i found out about him from a Pad Chennington video and stuck around. i strongly recommend his 2020 album Reassessment and the EPs he released before Body Count, especially Not What You See, Not What You Feel.
Industrial is such a deep rabbit hole… one day you just figured out Razed in Black is so catchy but few months later you are sitting mesmerized by some weid japanoise artist.
Lot of (figurative and literal) beard-stroking going on there dude..! But I have to admit, you do know your stuff and have clearly put a lot of time and effort into that... obviously people can & will always say you missed or this that band/artist (particularly from your bottom tier), but you have done a pretty thorough job there of covering a lot of ground in a useful way. Definitely some acts there I am not familiar with and will want to check out. BTW that Warning album you show at 34.35 includes a song which was covered by Pungent Stench in '93... Also FWIW musique concrète has quite a simple definition in principle, being the opposite of "abstract" music (which exists first as notation on the page and cannot be heard until someone plays it) - Schaeffer's key concept was to create music inseparable from actual sound... 👍
Thing about SYL is like delerium they started as a front line assembly side project( SYL's first drummer was adrian white from FLA and Jed was also in front line), FLA is a weird one the two side projects got bigger than the main band!
Good video! But I feel that in the "pure industrial" tier you missed out on futurist music - things like this: th-cam.com/video/IC3KMbSkYNI/w-d-xo.html . That's arguably one of the oldest things that somehow still fits our present-day idea of industrial music
In regards to Peggy, I think he said in the Nardwar interview that he is very influenced by Throbbing Gristle, so I guess the industrial label is not that far fetched
Man maybe i havent listened to enough extreme metal yet but Filth and accessible being in the same sentence is crazy to me (granted, its probably more accessible than Cop or Public Castration, but still not accessible at all from my perspective LOL)
Yea thats what I was into when I wrote Cyberpunk: Front Line Assembly Cut Rate Box Neuromance Alien Vampires Im ...iffy about God Module. I dont know what happened, but apparently theres some lore.
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TIER 1: Accessible Industrial 1:48
Nine Inch Nails
Skinny Puppy
Ministry
Rammstein
Rob Zombie
Marilyn Manson
KMFDM
Swans
TIER 2: Club Industrial 4:20
:wumpscut:
Front Line Assembly
Suicide Commando
Nitzer Ebb
Front 242
Aesthetic Perfection
And One
Covenant
Combichrist
TIER 3: Expansive Industrial 6:42
Death Grips
Clipping
JPEGmafia
Dälek
The Beatnigs
Alien Sex Fiend
Health
Atari Teenage Riot
Machine Girl
Youth Code
Psychic Tv
Maenad Vale
Coil
Techno Animal
Zonal
TIER 4: Aggressive Industrial 19:30
Godflesh
Author & Punisher
Nailbomb
Street Sects
Big Black
B L A C K I E
Black Hand Path
Panic DHH
VoidDweller
The Shizit
TIER 5: Nightmare Industrial 27:34
Lingua Ignota
The Body
MZ. 412
Trepaneringsritualen
Diamanda Galás
The Haxan Cloak
Warning
TIER 6: True Industrial 35:40
Throbbing Gristle
Einstürzende Neubauten
Whitehouse
Zev
Suicide
SPK
Nurse with Wound
Current 93
Cromagnon
Pierre Schaeffer
TIER 7: Death Industrial 45:25
Brighter Death Now
The Grey Wolves
Genocide Organ
Deathpile
Ramleh
Atrax Morgue
My honorable mentions
Killing Joke
OhGr
Motionless In White
Bachxwash
Ho99o9
Die Krupps
Daughters
The Young Gods
Thorns (the band)
Pitchshifter
Iperyt
Show Me the Body
Saul Williams
Scorn (the band)
Smegma (the band)
Test Dept
The Residents
Xiu Xiu
Black Mass
Caroliner (the band)
Jk Flesh
Yves Tumor
Andy Stott
Ben Frost
Vatican Shadow
The Buttress
(Neofolk)
Death In June
NON aka Boyd Rice
Laibach
Of The Wand and The Moon
Kiss The Anus of a Black Cat
(Nu Metal)
Fear Factory
Static X
3Teeth
(Djent aka Math Metal) (They in to Progressive Metal and they sound like industrial metal music)
Meshuggah
Car Bomb
Periphery
SikTh
Cloudkicker
Tesseract (the band)
(Cyber Metal)
Sybreed
…And Oceans
Khonsu
(Trap Metal)
$uicideboy$
Ghostemane
Scarlxrd
Prxjek
Lil Darkie
(Digital Hardcore)
Alec Empire
Christoph De Babalon
The Mad Capsule
Rabbit Junk
(Speedcore) (& It a Breakcore sound like industrial music)
The Quick Brown Fox
Diabarha
Nasenbluten
(Splittercore/Terrorcore) (& It a Breakcore sound like industrial music)
Passenger of Sh*t
ScreamerClauz
(Power Noise)
Esplendor Geométrico
Pan Sonic
Dreamcrusher
(Witch House)
Alice Glass
Salem
Sidewalks and Skeletons
(Death Industrial aka Dark Noise)
Sutcliffe Jügend
Prurient
Gnaw Their Tongues
Controlled Bleeding
Hair Police (the band)
And More That It
And One More
my honorable mentions too
(Martial Industrial)
ROME (the band)
Les Joyaux de la Princesse
In Slaughter Natives
Der Blutharsch
And That It Is Over
Zoviet France?
@@sborges433 Yeah This Band Three Time That It
GEEZ GOT ANOTHER list to go through. THANX
The "accessible industrial" intro explanation was spot on. Gatekeepers on suicide watch.
You left a whole category! Martial Industrial. Also, Tetsuo soundtrack is note worthy. Great list tho! Will be checking out a lot u mentioned.
Love tetsuo: the iron man 1-2-3
I mean he could go on and on, just like I can, its music! And yes Triarii is awesome definitely support them, Die Weisse Rosse would probably fit on that list as well. Forget Von Throstal and Arditi though. Triarri does it better without the political BS.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Martial Industrial is a direct predecessor of neofolk, which is linked to the original industrial music. For that it is a major offshoot of the original concept. I would also include John Cage’s audio experiment as the proto industrial music.
Modern industrial is measured by chu ishikawa.
Laibach is also worth mentioning within industrial or martial industrial
Best iceberg creator since Nyx Fears. Making videos on showing the most obscure music that most won't take time to discuss. Absolutely fantastic.
R.I.P to the o.g nyx fears....
@@Mister_5150 I only have watched her recently (past two years) and enjoyed her newer stuff. She's very unique and I imagine her older content had a charm that may have been lost along the way
@@hypnovertigo7200 she has this collab with nightmind that was really good, I was more use to that content. I think I tried to look for her channel again & got confused. Her new content is too glammy for me if you understand what I’m saying.
@@hypnovertigo7200 She honestly comes off as very edgy tryhard to me with the oh I'm so dark and corky attitude. Since then I lost interest in her, I liked her older stuff, because it was unique with the robot and everything.
I definitely agree with KMFDM being a great gateway band. The 90s albums are fantastic. They also have a good mix of both guitar/riff oriented songs and more synth/drum machine oriented songs
“Club industrial” is my jam 🖤plays at pretty much every goth club night
I like club industrial, the goth girls who listen to it know some freaky shit in the bedroom!
i feel like it's the only one with a big scene because of the mood and atmosphere it creates, and not because it's structurally similar like Wyatt said. there's a big overlap with gothic rock, industrial, alternative, ebm, trip hop, black metal etc.
Idk why they play industrial music at goth clubs you would think they would play goth music instead, Probably because industrial is more danceable.
@@lostangel17 cause goth clubs usually have two sections. The more aggressive electronic and industrial section made for the riveters (Rivet Heads), cybergoths, steampunk that are more modern and the old school goth, darkwave, alternative, deathrock and post-punk styles
THE BODY
They need more recognition, insanely good band
Pretentious bore whales made of soy.
THE BODY is suuuuuuper good!
void dweller also need more recognition a good ep of their would be the war on christmas and you can find it on youtube and oh yeah void dweller have a youtube channel
There's a sub category worth checking out called "Power Noise". It's basically heavily distorted rhythms & elements of noise to create this intense experience. Acts to check out would be Converter, Winterkalte, W.A.S.T.E., Monokrom, Asche & Noisex. Also pretty much anything on ant-zen records, hive, hands & hymen records. This subgenre doesn't get much discussion since the heydays of the scene kinda died around 2010 but damn is it worth driving in to.
Winterkalte is pretty sick and so is Noisex, also Manufactura and Terrorfact use to watch them awesome.
@@patrickbertlein4626 I caught Winterkalte at a das bunker event with W.A.S.T.E. A pit eventually started towards the end of Winterkalte's set.
Don't forget the forebears of the style; Esplendor Geometrico,Vivenza and Le Syndicat
compactor?
@@acheleg I'd consider compactor to be more rhythmic industrial. Sick fucking project though.
Im so happy you mentioned voiddweller they are very underatted . Also if your interested there's this industrial hip hop called tokyo deathwatch, there the most extreme industrial hip hop group mixing it with harsh noise
Love the Strawberry Switchblade shirt! I really like industrial music, more of the goth and metal variety, so I got a few new recommendations and few reminders to check out. Still, can I define industrial music? heck no. Also the close connection neofolk and industrial seem to have is interesting.
Haha -- nice catch! I hadn't noticed that.
"True industrial" needs to include Maurizio Bianchi, massive influence on all the industrial/death ambient in Italy, the Mauthausen Orchestra, Atrax Morgue, Morder Machine, Sodality, Ain Soph...etc
Aktivitat was a great album
I totally agree with you. Maurizio Bianchi has always defined the boundaries and variety of electronic music for me. A man who can make the Holocaust somewhat comprehensible through the sheer claustrophobic brutality of sound and then go make some of the most complex and beautiful ambient music I've ever heard is truly the cutting edge imo. His variety amazes me with every album.
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@@matanmeir1283 I will check him out right now. Many thanks ! Anyone with the Neubaten symbol for a profile pic will not steer me wrong.
Yes indeed, MB! ❤
Thanks for the great video! I have always been a fan of KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, Machine Girl and Atari Teenage Riot but I had never heard of 'Death Industrial' before. It is safe to say that I have fallen down a rabbit hole and I have been listening to a lot of Atrax Morgue since watching this.
This is fucking awesome! Industrial is probably my favourite genre (COIL4EVA) and you did it justice here. Also, your channel in general is amazing and pretty much got me listening to black metal again after years away. Keep it up, dude!
Coil are probably my favourite band of all time. Just such a wide variety of sounds and styles all executed wonderfully. Requiescat in pace Jhonn and Peter…
@@ConvincingPeople They are so hit and miss for me but when they hit, its ecstasy.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Pretty much. They are one of few artists that deserve replays when your conflicted about them but equally respect them too.
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Thank you so much for this video! I awlays liked industrial/electronic elements in metal (Blacklodge, Mysticum, Iperyt, Godflesh) or Califonian rhymic noise project W.A.S.T.E., but I didn't know, how to start to explore this genre in its entirety, so you helped me a lot.
EDIT: Wumpscut, Front Line Assembly and Scorn are awesome!
Atrax Morgue is one of the most disturbing thing that someone can actually listen to. I dare anyone to listen to any of his records, sitting in the dark, with this music playing in your headphones, and not feel some kind of straight anxiety or utter discomfort. This guy truly captured these raw, strange and deranging emotions into his records.
I want a post metal iceberg ngl. Thank you for making these, so entertaining. Its rare i learn something new from a video like this but you pull that off a lot!
The most pissed off Aggressive industrial record that Broadrick ever made was "disconnected" by greymachine( JKB and aaron turner from isis), makes godflesh sound tame.
Greymachine is great and one of the few interesting things Turner has done, but no it hardly makes Godflesh lame. Its more Noise Sludge though akin to Khanate and even Trees.
@@patrickbertlein4626 Did I say lame? I said tame, would never say lame as Wyatt knows from where we've spoken before godflesh are my all time fave band would never say anything so blasphemous.
You could have a whole Tier dedicated to Cold Meat Industry and it would be appropriate.
The Atrax Morgue at the very end was surprising, as it's difficult to hear anyone out side of obscure death industrial blog spots long gone today to ever mention anything of that crazy gay Italian genius psycho. Ever since he influenced my music creation... People(the mundane regular folk) have really amped up the disdain and disgust in ANYTHING I've put out since. A blessing in disguise. And also the Coil love in the middle of the video... immediate subscriber type content, dude.
There’s sort of me tempted to do a video dedicated to Cold Meat Industry.
@@wyattxhim it's a unique label because of all the different types of sub-genres of industrial AND the creator of it works with some of the projects as well. Roger Karmanik. Alongside his own project, Brighter Death Now.
(I Have to say this: CMI's Raison d'être's early releases sound like Monk dark ambient/industrial, it's like apocalyptic dark ambient with monks chanting... it's oddly satisfying once you acquire a taste for such atmospheric and dark landscapes... I think is best experienced behind basic life tasks, the way you have to listen and appreciate it the most is by trying not to listen. It does something to your neuron activity and something flicks a switch and you become hooked to these weird religious like soundscapes, Prospectus I)
Another strong recommendation for death industrial: Schloss Tegal.
Their album "The Grand Guignol" is one of the most nightmarish, bleak and depressive albums I know of
Good catch. I was thinking of shouting out Navicon Torture Technologies myself, which is a very different flavour of miserable.
I would die for a goth iceberg video 🙏🙏🙏 this was fantastic
Dude would probably put industrial, metal and emo bands in the list when that stuff isn't even goth.
@@lostangel17 i sure hope not, I am expecting post-punk stuff, deathrock, dark wave and the like though
I'm still a fan of the aggrotech/industrial bands from the early 2000s. Dawn of Ashes is still going strong and their sound has changed over the years, but are going back to the industrial sound (Mick Kenney from Anaal Nathrakh has produced and played guitar on a couple of their albums). Still listen to Psyclon Nine, not sure if Nero managed to get off drugs or not yet, hopefully they'll put out more stuff. Still love NIN since my teens in the 90s too. 3TEETH is easily accessible and are pretty good too.
There's a new P9 album out now
Dawn of Ashes is okay, but I like Psyclon Nine more.
@@xo.toxiin Agree
Cool to hear about AN!! Think he has also done some pop shit.
@@marikoth nice, I'll need to check it out!
You hit the nail on the head with how u described Atrax Morgue.
I first discovered him on TH-cam years ago when I was still in high school and was mesmerized by that stuff; still am lol
Club industrial is like the southern rap of industrial music. Dumb but fun.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the band Static-X in the Accessible Industrial tier, given that they're often brought up alongside Rob Zombie, Rammstein and the like, or Pitchshifter in Aggressive Industrial, since they were active during the same time that Godflesh and Ministry were doing their thing. I was hoping to see bands and projects like Celldweller, Blue Stahli, Scorngrain, Turmion Katilot, Neurotech, Fear of Domination, Deathstars, Shade Empire, T3CHN0PH0B14, and The Kovenant, to name a few, brought up in this video, but then again, despite often being labelled as industrial metal, they honestly lean more towards cyber metal despite their industrial influences.
That aside, I'd like to bring up Dodheimsgard and Evelyn for those who are interested in hearing experimental black metal projects that utilize a lot of industrial elements in their music, and though this project isn't industrial, I still think it's worth mentioning Gonemage, who make what is essentially black metal in chiptune form.
I agree, plus with bands like Circle of Dust and Rabbit Junk. But I guess there's only so much he can talk about the more 'lighthearted' or 'accessible' stuff, being that the main subject of these iceberg vids are the more disturbing/underground music acts
I'm quite surprised neither oomph! nor die krupps weren't on here, like maybe around tier 2, 3 or maybe 4. They both started out as a mixture of ebm and industrial metal and are major influences for rammstein. Lot of people would argue fear factory should be here if we are at it.
Thank you for this as I’m quite behind on your stuff because I’m taking every artist literal in exploring. Each being another one of the over 1000 bookmarked so when it’s a familiar face’s discography its finally beating procrastinating. Thank you 🙏 again and for the Maenad Veyl introduction upon starting the xhim journey!
Another artist worth everyone’s time whose a part of the “tr00” type I don’t see get enough recognition is Test Dept.
Strapping Young Lad too. And Type O Negative has honourable industrial moments.
Please check out Die Krupps 🙏 their early works are as industrial as it gets and their later day output is like Einstürzende Neubauten meets Rammstein
Thank you so much for this video. I've been wanting more of detailed explanations with historical contexts about industrial music. I've listened to most of artists/bands you mentioned in death Industrial, accessible industrial and aggressive industrial. I checked out Panic DHH, Void Dweller and some mentions from club industrial after this video. I admit that I don't know industrial music very well and your insights helped me to understand what makes an artist/band industrial little better although I'm still confused about it as before. At least, I'm starting to understand it.
You got me out of my comfort zone so many times and I've discovered a lot of great music thanks to you,I really appreciate that.
Something I tend to get a kick out of is that whenever I watch videos that discuss things like industrial, I always get this ad for the "skull shaver".
Also, Suicide is very much an American analogue of Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle. They were doing the same goddamn thing at the same goddamn time (you could argue that DEVO was doing it as well… they’ve got tapes from the early 70s that were just as out there). I love Suicide and I’m a staunch defender of Martin Rev’s first solo LP. I think it’s a masterpiece of ambient techno that, while maybe y’all don’t like it, was clearly influential on folks like Richard D. James, Stefan Betke and Wolfgang Voigt. It’s SO GOOD!!
Having been creating industrial music and production for a while now I'll add that 1 stylistic thing of industrial is that it has a machine like sound. Like a factory or tools. Its got a machine like flow to it, as well as all the experimentation and stuff. Its such a massive genre and its one of my all time favorites.
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Good mention of Marilyn Manson actually, Kinderfled from Antichrist Superstar is a really good industrial song
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@@paveantelic7876 i cant wait for his 5 hours video essay on hatred for mankind
@@killyrboss same lmao
Happy to see dälek getting some highlight
kudos for having SCORN playing in the background and the Strawberry Switchblade shirt!
You should do a power electronics or power violence discussion video! I've always been interested in the genre but no idea where to even start and you seem to know a good amount about it.
Man. So much of this I haven’t even thought about in 10-15 years. Thanks for the refresher! You’re wise beyond your years on this
Maaaaan, great video. Cheers for including Big Black. I totally agree with you on them. I missed Laibach and Foetus, but you can't name 'em all and you made me discover many cool acts. :D
Great iceberg! One band I'd like to add is Test Dept., especially their album The Unacceptable Face of Freedom.
Yes this is a BIG one for early industrial and I just found out about them a couple years ago, when I got a chance to see them. They are one of those bands that at the time are a massive influence, but people just forgot.
@@patrickbertlein4626 some good shit, I discovered them via a trent reznor interview talking about how hes not industrial ofc.
Great video- love when industrial gets the spotlight. thanks alot!🤟🏻
Im honestly surprised by how many of these I knew and had albums of. I would mention Curse of the Golden Vampire maybe around tier 3 or 4 although you had already mentioned alec empire and justin broadrick work. It's so good. Also ground zero around tier 3. Very sample heavy with guitar and turntable work. This iceberg ruled!
I have a great deal of love for Current 93's early industrial material, particularly Dogs Blood Rising. "Raio no Terrasu (Jesus Wept)" is just such a wild concatenation of sounds. Genuinely horrific stuff.
underrated, before Current 93 became a whine.
@@NeroAngelo616 Their late stuff is also great. Don't get it twisted. It just appeals to slightly different sensibilities for me, although the same animating principle is there (quite literally).
@@ConvincingPeople whatever that means. It's all too same sounding to forget caring.
@@NeroAngelo616 I mean, it's fine if you don't like their later work, but you don't have to be a weird jerk about other people having different tastes from you.
@@ConvincingPeople Its about understanding them, not about agreeing.
Industrial music. Scorn playing in the background. Strawberry Switchblade and Lord Of The Rings....its going to be a good day
should have named this
"Thee industrial iceberg" lol iykyk
Pitchshifter were very much innovators of aggressive industrial too.
Just a few more: Haus Arafna, MLWTTKK, Punish Yourself, Cyanotic, Wumpscutt, Android Lust, Unter Null, Uberbyte, Non, This Morn Omina, Yelworc, Vomito Negro. Sorry I just don't have the time to categorize them. BTW, great discussion.
fantastic job on this, impressive. really happy with some of the inclusions I think most would overlook, like stretching Big Black in there - agree! got some great recs too.
Been wanting to get into industrial a lot so this definitely helps 👍
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I recommended the album Crimes Against White America by CBN for a blend of noise/power electronics and industrial hip hop
I would have used the term metal industrial over aggressive but that is just me. All industrial is aggressive man! Accessible I would add Gravity Kills, but I would DEFINITELY not have Swans on the list next to KMFDM! Club you got to have VNV Nation and Apotygma Berzerk. In the industrial metal list Crawl, Skrew (members of NIN and Zombie), and Cold World is mandatory. Love the Death Industrial list a lot of my favorite bands. Also I would add a black industrial tier and move MZ 412 on that, adding Empire Auriga and Nagelfar. Add En Nihil to death industrial as well! Oh man and Terror Cell Unit but they are quite different. I can't help but keep adding to this...not even sure where I would include Sanctum and Burial Hex but some of my favorite shirt. Also Dark Ambient should be on here, Desiderii Marginis, raison d'etre, and more.
Awesome Switchblade shirt!
Always enjoy your videos, and obviously adding my thoughts to them!
Also had to add a cool story of my goth days. Rudy from Wumpscut DJ'd a club night in Norfolk, this was probably 2001.
Dalek is a great industrial hip hop group highly recommend!
I would also add Filter to the Accessible part.
A band I like quite a bit used a shopping cart as an instrument, among other objects. I like older Ministry and KMFDM quite a bit. I tend to like industrial and metal mixed,like Red Harvest, who was influenced by Ministry. I also think Clock DVA is pretty good.
disco industrial- thrill kill kult, power electronics like praga khan. clubbin is fun & poppy
, but tkk had lots of luscious background noise
I'm not into industrial music, but these icebergs are fun, keep em coming.
A lot of really great recommendations here. I knew about half of these albums but the other half got me really excited to dive into. Thank you!!
Kluster’s album “Klopfzeichen” would’ve fit perfectly in true industrial, Throbbing Gristle owe a lot of their career to them & this is some chilling shit. The fact it came out in 1970 is insane.
Best ever industrial music that's not lumped in with industrial; VIVENZA. Litteraly the sound of machines banging each other.
you're the man bro, best channel!
Really enjoyed this video, I always get a bunch of great music when you do these so thanks. What do you think about making a Noise iceberg next? Idk if you're into Noise enough to make one but i'd like one for sure.
I think this is the only place on the internet where you can find Filth labeled under "accessible" lol. I'd stick it down to tier 4 personally
I would add Cabaret Voltaire, Test Dept, Klinik, The Young Gods, early Dirge, Gridlock, Treponem Pal, early Fear Factory, early Pitch Shifter.
Almost a 53 min long video!? You’re spoiling us rotten Wyatt! Many thanks!
Just liked every single post that shared out more stuff. This video has helped all of our muscial journeys more and its wonderful to see. Edited the hell out of my late night posts too so sorry for the engrish.
Some more recs to mind are Xotox - Die Unruhe (Power Noise) and Dirge - Elysian Magnetic Fields (atmospheric sludge).
I have the Einstürzende Neubauten logo tattooed on my arm. There has never been a more expansive, innovative and at the same time consistent group, and there will probably never be
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It's weird I think I started at the "true industrial" tier and the first two at the same time while getting into the genre
Awesome video, very informative. I learned about so many cool new acts. Thanks!
why you didn't include cabaret voltaire?
Made some Interesting choices. Props for mentioning Horse Rotovator and Plague Mass
Neubauten was possibly the weirdest band I’ve ever heard.
Also, pretty sure it’s pronounced “ein stur zein (the e is pronounced like how it is in the word (eye) noi bow ten”.
I saw Tool VIP 2nd row center January 2020, just before the pandemic. Author and Punisher opened for them. The bass was so loud it was uncomfortable. Like it was almost in the realms of danger music
can you do one for doom/sludge and thrash? Sorry big fan of thse i discover new bands this way
Great God!! I was just listening to Scorn and there you are playing it in the background!!
Don’t forget B L A C K I E and Dälek who are both direct influences on Death Grips sound…like they almost straight jacked it and their predecessors deserve more recognition
The only album I've listened to on here was Bodycount thanks to Pad Chennington and it was pretty good. Definitely got lots of to check out! Thank you for another great video Wyatt!
Diagnose Lebensgefahr definitely would fall on a lower tier on this behemoth
Scanning all the other comments, thank you for sharing as most I don’t believe I’ve already bookmarked which is astonishing if I’m right.
If I can share any more as a way of gratitude I’d recommend:
Chu ishikawa - Tetsuo trilogy.
Akira Yamaoka - Silent Hill (1 in particular for this topic).
Axis of Perdition - Deleted Scenes From The Transition Hospital.
Blut Aus Nord - Thematic Emancipation…. & MoRt.
Filmmaker - Vlad Tapes.
N.K.V.D. - Totalitarian Industrial Oppression.
Godkiller - The End Of The World.
Head of David is an interesting case. I suspect they were aiming for the accessible Industrial Rock tier, but were two years too early. Their interpretation of this style takes on Sludge, Stoner Doom, HC Punk and Noise Rock influences. JK Broadtrick was briefly part of the band.
To me, the Cubanate tune Body Burn sounds a lot like Head of David mixing Metal guitars with EBM/Industrial beats. Cubanate is another interesting combo for the Club or Expansive Industrial tier.
I recommend this new album by Blush Response: th-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_kPrprYj-T_X1MNu9_R1UxZBovzTrmYJAA.html&si=RTjl5o7WD-QlWlCm
Top notch IDM and Industrial Techno with two features from Cubanate vocalist Marc Heal. The whole Industrial Techno angle was pretty lacking in the video.
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JPEG cites Throbbing Gristle as inspo, or at least fw them heavy. Veteran and everything beforehand definitely have an "Industrial approach" to Trap music and They still approach it that way here and there, but obviously branched out to an even more expanded reach of genres since AMHAC
P.S. been very curious of your opinion on Machine Girl
Curious when he cited and talked about them
@@Blackoudmusic nardwuar showed him a record of theirs where he gave them praise
holy shit, really appreciate the Maenad Veyl love. i once made a crappy remix of Twelve Regions from Body Count and sent it to him and his response was very positive. i found out about him from a Pad Chennington video and stuck around. i strongly recommend his 2020 album Reassessment and the EPs he released before Body Count, especially Not What You See, Not What You Feel.
Honestly, I'd consider Marliyn Manson a grunge band with industrial elements, well, at least their earlier stuff (Portrait to Holy Wood)
Great to hear Scorn in the background
Industrial is such a deep rabbit hole… one day you just figured out Razed in Black is so catchy but few months later you are sitting mesmerized by some weid japanoise artist.
Lot of (figurative and literal) beard-stroking going on there dude..! But I have to admit, you do know your stuff and have clearly put a lot of time and effort into that... obviously people can & will always say you missed or this that band/artist (particularly from your bottom tier), but you have done a pretty thorough job there of covering a lot of ground in a useful way. Definitely some acts there I am not familiar with and will want to check out. BTW that Warning album you show at 34.35 includes a song which was covered by Pungent Stench in '93... Also FWIW musique concrète has quite a simple definition in principle, being the opposite of "abstract" music (which exists first as notation on the page and cannot be heard until someone plays it) - Schaeffer's key concept was to create music inseparable from actual sound... 👍
I never really left tier 1. This has really opened up my ears. Thanks for making this👍😃
6:55 could‘ve talked way more about industrial-influences in electronic music like industrial hardcore techno for example.
Another great iceberg as always! Though I think one band that should have been included is Strapping Young Lad.
Thing about SYL is like delerium they started as a front line assembly side project( SYL's first drummer was adrian white from FLA and Jed was also in front line), FLA is a weird one the two side projects got bigger than the main band!
Good video! But I feel that in the "pure industrial" tier you missed out on futurist music - things like this: th-cam.com/video/IC3KMbSkYNI/w-d-xo.html . That's arguably one of the oldest things that somehow still fits our present-day idea of industrial music
Your icebergs are on point! Subbed! I'm not sure why I didn't sub before
Thy disease from Poland is also a pretty good death metal band that incorporates industrial music together. Pretty good stuff.
"I'm having a really bad acid trip, but i dont care" is probably the most industrial sentance ever spoken
I needed this as I like industrial but don't know many bands, besides mainstream shit
Have met with Ogre from SP a couple of times, truly awesome person
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In regards to Peggy, I think he said in the Nardwar interview that he is very influenced by Throbbing Gristle, so I guess the industrial label is not that far fetched
No Cabaret Voltaire? Sad...
Man maybe i havent listened to enough extreme metal yet but Filth and accessible being in the same sentence is crazy to me (granted, its probably more accessible than Cop or Public Castration, but still not accessible at all from my perspective LOL)
Exactly what I thought, even many Godflesh fans find it hard to listen to.
Yea thats what I was into when I wrote Cyberpunk:
Front Line Assembly
Cut Rate Box
Neuromance
Alien Vampires
Im ...iffy about God Module. I dont know what happened, but apparently theres some lore.
Great Iceberg dude! But I can't help to be a little sad that you didn't include Foetus.
Your Iceberg videos are so good.