Urza's Iron Alliance | Precon Upgrade Guide | Commander | EDH | Budget | Cut-Rate Commander | MTG

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    Cut-Rate Commander - Precon Upgrade Guide for Urza's Iron Alliance & Urza, Chief Artificer from The Brothers War #mtg #commander #edh #mtgbro
    The other half of the cataclysmic bothers war - Urza, Chief Artificer and his army of machines will be emerging from The Brothers War to to face his brother Mishra's forceres on the battlefield - and he will do whatever it takes to ensure his victory, regardless of the damage it may cause to Dominaria.
    In this precon upgrade, we'll be striving to get the most out of Mishra's ability to create temporary token copies of our artifacts - aiming to het as much value as possible as he does so. So of course, that means we'll be adding additional artifacts to the build with powerful ETB, Attack, and Damage based effects to generate us value as their token copies come into play and swing in, as well as plenty of ways to sac those artifacts away for even more value before they say themselves away. The coupled with ways to generate additional uses pf Mishra's ability and ways to keep him alive - we'll quickly overwhelm our opponents in a unending metal tide of Warforms until they are crushed under the power of our war machines.
    Let me know if the comments below if you agree with my choices and/or what you would add to the deck instead. Also, let me know know who you would like to see next by voting on in the comments on the three choices of commander listed at the end of the video.
    Decklist - www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5249...
    All art used is copyright of Wizards of the Coast
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:49 - Commander & Gameplan
    04:06 - Keepers
    13:10 - Upgrades
    19:00 - Breakdown
    22:11 - Closing Thoughts
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  • @GrazzetMTG
    @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey folks! See the full list of changes below and let me know in the comments if you agree with them, what cards you think should be added instead, and what commanders you want to see me cover in the future!
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    Creatures
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    Sanwell, Avenger Ace >>> Padeem, Consul of Innovation
    Alela, Artful Provocateur >>> Vedalken Archmage
    Scholar of New Horizons >>> Foundry Inspector
    Wreck Hunter >>> Jhoira's Familiar
    Tawnos, Solemn Survivor >>> Canoptek Spyder
    Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle >>> The Reality Chip
    Marionette Master >>> Research Thief
    Wire Surgeons >>> Platoon Dispenser
    Whirler Rogue >>> Cyberdrive Awakener
    Chrome Courier >>> Cryptothrall
    Sharuum the Hegemon >>> Scarecrone
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    Instants
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    Armix, Filigree Thrasher >>> Dispatch
    Unbreakable Formation >>> Disruption Protocol
    Sphinx's Revelation >>> Stoic Rebuttal
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    Sorceries
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    Urza's Ruinous Blast >>> Their Name Is Death
    Phyrexian Rebirth >>> Organic Extinction
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    Enchantments
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    Preordain >>> Efficient Construction
    One with the Machine >>> Mirrodin Besieged
    Austere Command >>> Artificer Class
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    Artifacts
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    Kayla's Music Box >>> Talisman of Dominance
    Thopter Shop >>> Talisman of Hierarchy
    Hexavus >>> Mirrorworks
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    Lands
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    Azorius Chancery >>> Adarkar Wastes
    Dimir Aqueduct >>> Underground River
    Orzhov Basilica >>> Caves of Koilos
    Ash Barrens >>> Power Depot

    • @TrumpSkillz
      @TrumpSkillz ปีที่แล้ว

      Very helpful… thanks

  • @ClaudioCianferoni
    @ClaudioCianferoni ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the upgrade guide, I was lookin forward for this video!
    For a non budget upgrade Esper Sentinel could be a great addition, with all the lords in the deck the card drawing effect should be near automatic!
    And I second the question: if I don't want to use the 40k cards, what you would suggest using?

  • @alejocuruchet76
    @alejocuruchet76 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video! looking forward to misha rb! as a minor nickpick I would like to see the keepers after the upgrades in the precons or to see what you swap for the new includes. just a thought but i'm always more interested to know what you add rather than what you keep

  • @benrichardson5662
    @benrichardson5662 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Song of the Worldsoul would be very good to get more constructs!

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tezzeret Master of the Bridge was definitely an upgrade I was thinking about too!
    Feldon looks like a very interesting and unique commander option

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep - Tezzeret can do a lot of work in this build, thats for shore!
      Also, thanks for voting!

  • @OrochiBorgieman
    @OrochiBorgieman ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi do you have any alternatives for the WH40K cards Canoptek Spyder and Cryptothrall? They're so hard to find, if not impossible.
    Also do you have any plans for commander videos based on the Transformers cards in The Brothers War set?

  • @dangelobarton8164
    @dangelobarton8164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your channel plz keep it coming!😊

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you're enjoying the content and will do!

  • @rv4343
    @rv4343 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good upgrade guide. Maybe i would swap the Etched Champion with the Kappa Cannoneer from the Kamigawa precon as a bigger unblockable selfprotected threat.. With the huge amount of Artifact tokencreations the Canonneer shoud not cost much more mana than the Champion and constantly grows bigger and becomes unblockable and he protects himself with ward 4.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!
      I agree - Kappa Cannoneer would make for a solid addition thanks to being reliable unblockable, Ward 4 having a high enough value to make it decently resilient, and it psuedo-karnstruct growth via +1/+1 counters making it yet another threat that our opponents would have to content with. Its $4 price tag is a bit too pricy to say within this budget, but would be a good addition if going over budget or if you have a copy already.
      Good suggestion!

  • @doritodust0076
    @doritodust0076 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that the Secret Lair commander decks are (hopefully) in people's hands, are you going to take a crack at an upgrade? I think it'd be a pretty interesting video

  • @salgueiro1575
    @salgueiro1575 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Ashnod the Uncaring video? I saw a poll a for it a while back and was really looking forward to it! Anyways, amazing video as always!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ashnod the Uncaring build will be dropping next week (the polls run 2 weeks before the video drops to give me plenty of time to build the deck and test) - so hang tight, because its coming soon!

  • @Tae_Grixis
    @Tae_Grixis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cadence of this voice reminds me of Fire Marshall Bill, played by Jim Carrey.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Let me show you something!

  • @barrysetser3909
    @barrysetser3909 ปีที่แล้ว

    These upgrades reminds me of the Chippy deck from a little while back; loved that deck, so would be neat to see thos ideas brought into Brother's War. Going to have to vote for Feldon as that just looks like the toughest build of these three

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Reality Chip is probably one of the more fun/powerful builds I've tackled so its good to hear you enjoyed it as well!
      Also, thanks for voting! Feldon has a long way to go to catch up to the other contenders on this weeks ballot, but we still have some time so anything can happen!

    • @barrysetser3909
      @barrysetser3909 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrazzetMTG indeed; once I figured it out the deck was quite frightening. No worries, may eventually circle around to tackle Feldon on my own

  • @jamesrenegade1010
    @jamesrenegade1010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great upgrade video

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @Mediamatix
    @Mediamatix ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to suggest " Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph" for a future build poll. :3

  • @raffaelepepe2258
    @raffaelepepe2258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the video, eventually who would you put urza, lord protector and The Mightstone and Weakstone instead of?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I do, it would have to be a increased budget build or something, because the merge commanders are a bit pricier than what I usually cover. That said - I wouldn't be opposed to it!

    • @raffaelepepe2258
      @raffaelepepe2258 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrazzetMTG They came out in envelopes and I wanted to add them to the upgrade you made and I didn't know which card to replace them with

  • @vectorstrike
    @vectorstrike ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello!
    I find it strange to see Darksteel Juggernaut and Filigree Attendant being kept, since basically every other upgrade video ditches them. Any suggestions on how to switch them for better artifact creature cards?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally I like them both in this deck as payoffs for our go wide token artifact gameplan but if your looking to swap them out - Etherium Spinner may warrent consideration as another artifact that can passively create artifact tokens as we cast our higher cmc spells & Urza, Prince of Kroog is a a copy of Tempered Steel on legs that can get us more copies of our artifacts in play once we have the mana.
      Hope that helps!

    • @Agrimir
      @Agrimir ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m taking out the juggernaut after getting caught in a loop with the juggernaut force swinging into a Phyrexian Vindicator.

  • @markhunter3533
    @markhunter3533 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not the silver, gold and leaden myr?

  • @supersalty_9459
    @supersalty_9459 ปีที่แล้ว

    im loving the artifact commanders so far, i pulled this commander from the draft packs, constructing my own artifact commander an its a overwhelming with all the artifact supports before the brothers war was accounce

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, The Brothers War certainly gave us a lot of artifact support to work with, so these commander and old ones alike have a lot of new toys to work with!

    • @supersalty_9459
      @supersalty_9459 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrazzetMTG oh boy! More artifacts 😂 can't wait to construct the perfect reaper king artifact deck

  • @kismet8010
    @kismet8010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Upgrade the recent starter deck precons please

  • @OndraZboril
    @OndraZboril ปีที่แล้ว

    Disruption Protocol and Stoic Rebuttal are nice and flavourful but isn't just counterspell better while not being expensive?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Counterspell is going to be generally better for sure but the difference between Disruption Protocols $0.04 cost vs Counterspells nearly $2 is significant enough for me to run it to stay within budget without suffering too many performance issues (since it will function as a counterspell 99% of the time).
      Still, if you have a counterspell already or don't mind going over budget - adding it in over Disruption Protocol would indeed make the build slightly more reliable.

  • @Galchoo1
    @Galchoo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta say, these two precon upgrades may have been your best ones yet, given how much I now want them to face off against each other in a 1on1 of sorts... amazing video as always!
    As for the new vote... Imma be real with you, they all feel a bit too much like pieces of tech instead of commanders. Maybe it's because of how small they are statwise? Ah well, my vote goes to Feldon cause with him at least it's tricky as all hell. Or we get budget Prosper. We'll see.
    Day 465 of waiting for the Grazzet face reveal. Did you watch the newest episode of Game Knights? Cause I loved it aside from one bit you will probably be able to find in the comments. (Seriously, Prof, how can you spread such misinformation... JK.)

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear that you've been enjoying the precons this time around!
      Regarding the poll line-up - that's a fair assessment - though I personally feel that there is enough meat on these mono colored commander to get a decent build out of them!
      I have not had the chance to see the latest gamenights yet - I'll have to check it our soon to see what you mean!

  • @SLJB8
    @SLJB8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to see an updated deck list considering I've been able to change mine substantially with the new fallout and Doctor who sets

    • @terms7966
      @terms7966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you don't mind me asking what might those cards be I'm quite new and I got this pre con off of a teacher of mine and am looking to upgrade it

    • @SLJB8
      @SLJB8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@terms7966 Auton Soldier is a must add imo. Securitron Squadron from fallout works insanely well, and I highly recommend including Paladin Dance as protection for both Urza and your artifacts.

  • @manuelperezdesileslopez5016
    @manuelperezdesileslopez5016 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @Logan_MZR
    @Logan_MZR 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also FYI all Urza, Lord High Artificer is cheaper now. $10.60 for a full art near mint 🤘🤘🤘

  • @craicrushna7638
    @craicrushna7638 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No ornthropter or other 0-1 mana artifact creatures to play Urza by turn 3. Failure upgrade.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      While I can see this build go heavy on low cost artifact creatures to get Urza out ASAP - This build is still more than capable of getting Urza down relatively quickly without having to invest in lots of small artifact creatures - being more focused on being a more mid-range build - so I feel like calling it can failure is a bit harsh, considering it performs rather well, but you are entitled to your opinion.

    • @alphaskag1878
      @alphaskag1878 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Solid video Grazz, you can't please all the little Timmys

  • @Soulflame27
    @Soulflame27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a bit surprised that this is yet another guide to upgrade the precons, which advises new border cards, where I think a big draw of these decks is the fact that all the cards in the precon are old border. In addition, some cards really don't fit flavor wise... This isn't the strongest commander (and this is an understatement), so I think that for the majority of people who upgrade this commander deck, the border and flavor are really important factors and should be taken into account.

    • @benrichardson5662
      @benrichardson5662 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you in principle. The old card borders were definitely a draw for me, as I'm fond of them (I actually built a Krenko deck because it let me run so many old card borders) but holding to that limitation really shrinks the pool of viable upgrades so I think Grazzet can be forgiven for using newer card borders.
      Nonetheless, I feel I should reiterate that I very much sympathize with your flavor concerns. I can't think of anything off the top of my head but there's probably something in the Mishra precon that would be good here (since the two precons share the Blue and Black colors) while still being classic bordered.