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Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
@@kastor6497 Nah, there's plenty of material, like the epic badassness of the Chief Librarian of the Black Templars. That guy has kicked so much ass yet so few know about him.
I will always advocate for the Tau, in my opinion their addition was a very good idea, to show how stereotypical sci-fi contrasts with 40k. And they do have that charm of not knowing what the hell is going on in the galaxy, and are slowly realizing how uncaring the universe is
@@apolloknight9521 More of the children that get to go through all of the horror slowly and we get to see if they keep their sanity and purity through all of it. They could become the saviors of the galaxy or just another horrorfest to live in.
@@apolloknight9521A little bit yeah. Also one of their overall narrative themes from recent books shows a them going through the same beats as the Imperium prior to it's fall with the question being posed "Will they find a way to make their ideals come true or will they fall just as the imperium/eldar/necrons did?"
The Tau puts the Imperium in perspective. To the Tau, humans are an unfathomably ancient, unfathomably advanced, extremely malevolent, much more physically imposing and psychically-entuned empire, similar to how humans view the Eldar. An apocalyptic war to a Tau is a minor skirmish to a Space Marine, like how the Combine from Half-Life view Earth as a blip on their radar. It's basically a race reversal of the classic alien invasion trope.
The Tau's effectiveness against the tyranids is so understated. They are probably the perfect counter to them. -Their speed of adaptation with tech actually matches up to the tyranids biological adaptation. You know why hive fleet gorgon's whole shtick is rapid evolution? Cause all their biggest battles happened against the tau, and they basically got forced into an arms race against the blue boys. -They don't use the warp for their ftl travels. Their gravitic drives/zfr accelerators don't depend on the warp at all to travel, neither do they need Navigators. This is a huge advantage in their case as the shadow in the warp does nothing to hinder their travel. -Their empire being smaller than the imperium is also an advantage, as they need to traverse a lot less ground to cover their defenses. Combined with their bureaucracy being a hell of a lot more streamlined than the imperium means they can coordinate defense efforts near instantly. -They also dont have any psykers, so their battle doctrines never really build themselves around psyker units, which again makes the shadow in the warp useless against them. -Their "bio weapons" are technological in nature, utilizing self replicating nanobots. This is something the tyranid can neither replicate nor build up resistances against. -Ion weapons. They use Ion weapons. There's no biomass to recover if its all fucking atomized. To me the Tau and the Tyranid are just two sides of the same coin. One's a rapidly advancing technocracy, and the other is a rapidly advancing bioweapon.
While I'd personally argue that the Necrons are a better counter due to it being basically guaranteed that the Tyranids will lose more than they gain and Necrons not having any biomass of their own, while also having all the advantages the Tau has related to the warp, I still have to agree that the Tau are one of the best at fighting the Tyranids.
It's actually a strangely rare thing in sci-fi writing that I really have to give 40k props for, regarding Tyranid adaptation. In the regard that frequently in fiction, any faction or species that is described to be "rapidly adaptable" is treated like adaptation just means gradually stacking on more and more passive "buffs" until the organism/tech is somehow godlike and perfect. When in reality that's simply not what adaptation means or how it works. And the Tyranids overall, actually follow this realistically. When the Tyranids adapt to a given weapon, that new adaptation can often mean sacrificing a previous adaptation, or comes with other trade offs. This was specifically described in how Tyranids were able to adapt to better withstand Tau or Imperial weaponry, but not both at the same time, which led to a temporary alliance. That when they bulk up their forces on stronger hides and armour growths, it does slow them down. There's no "best" Tyranid. Only the best tool for a given job. Which is awesome to see, given how many other fictional "assimilate and adapt" factions in fiction, such as the Borg from StarTrek, fail to properly reflect this key (and fun) dynamic most of the time.
Until genestealer gets his hands on etherial...which might have already happened. Tau cannot disobey etherials and if genestealer cults use etherials of their own tau are screwed. Even worse if Hive fleet gets their hands on etherial DNA they will be able to produce their own organisms cable of in worse case controlling tau, in best case sow confusion and fuck with their minds.
@@Jbertius yeah the Necrons are basically the technological version of Tyranids not the Tau. But the Tau are up there as the worst possible matchups for the nids
@OK-yy6qz really? The Imperium and orks literally just throw bodies at the Nids. Orks reproduce fast and the Imperium has space marines and strong units to throw to counteract. The Tau have been around a small time compared to the others and can defend agai st the Nids, and actually care about losses. Far as im concerned besides the Necrons the Tau and Eldar have the best chance of beating the Nids. Orks at least get stronger from the large Waghh's whereas the imperium just suffers losses until they win with no gain. The Imperium might be a lot of people's favorites but they are honestly $hit.
Most Imperial crusades take several centuries to organise, the Democles was thrown together in about 10 years.. it was barely a blip on the radar of the Imperium.
In short... -The Tau are hardy enough that, to eliminate them, you'd have to use time and resources that would be better used elsewhere -They are an asset against many of the Imperium's foes (albeit a begrudging one), so it's worth keeping them around for now -There are bigger problems the Imperium has to deal with and they can't waste their efforts on the Tau
And diplomacy between the Tau and the Imperium is both sides doing their best to not provoke things enough that the Imperium are willing to destroy the Tau and deal with the consequences later.
I would add that Guilliman is estremely practical with this type of thing. As a result would definilty see them as an asset and has been shown to be willing to work with zenos.
Simple, (pretty sure this exact thing is in the lore) because the Imperium faces more active threats on the daily, the amount of resources it would take to crush the Tau are much better spent elsewhere as since the Damocles Crusade the Tau have been pretty explicit not to F with the Imperium again. So the Imperium would be wasting a lot of resources on a threat that isn’t really there for not a lot of gain while leaving themselves exposed to attacks from whatever enemies the forces they used to crush the Tau were dealing with previously.
It’s exactly that; they’re more trouble than they’re worth. Overall they’re pretty harmless comparatively and they expand slowly due to lacking warp travel or an effective equivalent. Inquisitors and rogue traders can also use them since unlike most other xenos, they will actually talk and generally not backstab you immediately. With tau, you know what you’re dealing with and what they want is pretty tame There are bigger fish to fry than some devilfish
Also if the Imperium try to do another crusade againts Tau Empire it will be harder than the last time because this time Tau are more prepered thus causing the Imperium to spend even more resources
"Damocles Crusade the Tau have been pretty explicit not to F with the Imperium again." That's just blatantly untrue given that the Tau have continued to fuck with the imperium since then. After the Agrellan campaign, the Mechanicus had to set a portion of space on fire (Really) just to keep the Tau contained. What happened after that? The Tau built an accidental space bridge, discovered their own chaos entity, wiped out a death guard fleet(With the help of said warp entity most likely) and then had one of the Students of Puretide solo a Space Marine Chapter's command. They definitely still Fuck with the Imperium.
Pretty much, but not entirely correct on the part about the Tau not screwing with the Imperium since. They've still had numerous conflicts, with the Tau even conquering several Imperial worlds and encroaching into their space since the Damocles Crusade. At the time of the crusade the Tau had only just begun their "2nd sphere of expansion". They're now on their fifth expansion, with the latest even being in what used to be Ultramar space (before the great rift cut it off). Ultimately the reason mostly stays the same though. The Tau are still far far less aggressive than any of the Imperium's other pressing concerns and world ending threats. The Tau have been relatively careful to exploit opportunities and "nibble" away at the imperium without doing enough to warrant a proper co-ordinated response. (Although they've definitely made lasting rivals and inspired a vendetta out of the Raven Guard at least.) It's like if you're currently fighting a bear, a beefcake chimp and an alligator, whilst wolves circle around it all, but there's also this one wasp that keeps stinging you. Sure, you'd REALLY love to get rid of that damn wasp if you could, but right now your hands are just too damned busy trying to stop those jaws from closing on you. So for now the most you can do is glare at it in frustration and hope it f***s off.
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1:46 Space Marine: "Time to squish you!" Tau: *squeaks* Space Marine: "What?" Tau: *squeaks repeatedly* Space Marine: "Oh my Man-Emperor! This is amazing!" Tau: "Why are you doing that?! That's my ribs crushing my lungs!"
The second half of the video was on point, though I hate to say Major, the earlier portion covering the Damocles Crusade was pretty misleading and misses some really important details. *(( TL:DR VERSION.* The crusade failed embarrassingly badly, and was stopped almost immediately. The primary reason it flopped, is due to the conflict being engineered to bait it into a trap. It was technically the Imperium that was taken by surprise, not the Tau (sort of). It was also a significant factor in contributing to Farsight's later distrust of the Ethereals.)) You describe the crusade taking or cleansing "world after world", and imply it made significant ground into Tau space. After retaking their own worlds, the crusade in total touched only two Tau systems, and three inhabited Tau worlds. Sy'l'kell, a fringe agricultural colony of only 7m population, Viss'el, an even smaller bumfuck fishing world of less than a 1m populace, and finally Dal'yth, a cosmopolitan trade hub, the first actual Sept world the crusade encountered, and the last it would touch, retreating without being able to take it. Whilst the crusade certainly tested the early Tau forces of the era, it ultimately barely made the slightest dent into their empire. The crusade had lost a third of it's fleet by the time it entered ceasefire and non-pursuit negotiations and began evacuating it's forces from Dal'yth, which I also have to point out to people time and again, happened BEFORE the news of the Tyranids and the recall order arrived, not after. There's a much lesser known but key piece of lore regarding the Damocles Crusade however, that is rare to see mentioned. Anyone reading what I wrote above might wonder how the crusade could have gone quite so badly. How did the Imperium underestimate their foe THAT badly, and how did the Tau manage to bring enough forces to bear in time to repel it before it could make any relevant headway? Well in the Farsight books, it's strongly implied that the Damocles Crusade was actually carefully provoked and deliberately baited by the Ethereals. About how there had been an abnormal build up of forces concentrated around Dal'yth prior to the crusade, contrary to any motive the Tau military commanders themselves were made aware of. Meaning that when the crusade came in, the Tau were effectively ready for them, even if it still came as a shock to their military leadership. Farsight accuses the Ethereals of deliberately instigating the crusade whilst keeping military leadership in the dark, to ensure it could be stopped but not without losses, to use as propaganda for inspiring Tau resolve against the Imperium, and bolster further Tau militarisation. Which is exactly what happened. The Imperium was led into a trap against a faction that had previously shown almost no military capability, and the Tau defenders that "just so happened" to be in the right location at the time, were used as unwitting sacrifices "for the greater good" to paint a picture of a valiant pyrrhic defence against a terrible foe. Despite all the memes about the Tau being naive, the Etheral's routinely display nearly Eldar levels of manipulative fuckery, and they know a lot more than they let on. In the lead up to the Crusade, the Tau possessed control over two Imperial worlds. They had good intel about the nature of the Imperium, and the degree of response it would be likely to make. Meanwhile the Imperium had basically no idea what was on the other side of the Damocles Gulf before they crossed it. They had a vague idea of the small xeno empire on the other side, but had no prior reason to believe them to have any degree of competent forces, let alone that they'd be concentrated in advance (whilst left to wonder why). The Damocles Crusade lore was basically written out like a series of Sun'Tzu quotes. Feigning weakness, concealing your true strength, and exploiting the over confidence/eagerness of your enemy. Which is no surprise at all, given the early inspirations for the Tau as a faction. "If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him." "Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance." "He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious." "The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun'Tzu The Ethereals KNEW they were outmatched, and would be totally overwhelmed in regular open warfare. So they engineered a conflict that gave them the means to defeat a greater foe, and turn the outcome into a lasting advantage.
THANK YOU. It’s also important to note that the tau have advanced quite far since then. It’s likely that if all other threats to the imperium were removed, that the imperium would still crumble before defeating the tau.
@@mysteriousstranger5873 Well, don't get too carried away. ^ ^; If all other threats to the Imperium were genuinely removed, the Imperium would definitely crush the Tau as it currently stands. The comparative difference in size of each empire in a true 1v1 is just too much. But something as crazy as every other faction getting wiped out is most certainly not going to happen, so it doesn't really matter. But yes, people always like to talk about past events regarding the Tau as if time has stood still. They will talk of the Tau being shocked about encountering new threats, but they never mention how readily the Tau have always rose to meet the challenge. They love to scoff about petty early days events during the crusade, but not about how the Tau have steadily conquered dozens of worlds from the Imperium since then. How it's the Tau that are on the offensive, and not the other way around.
Imagine you go to the kitchen and find your neighbour eating your food that would probably piss you off but now imaginé that at the same time you have angry crocodiles on your back yard a zombie army on your front yard killing parasites on your roof and a literal portal to hell in the middle of your living room .... That's the Imperium they simply have too much on their plate to worry about that annoying neighbour 😂
Reminds me of the fable of the hunter and the weasel. A weshel was fighting with a snake. The hunter shot a weasel for it's pelt and ignored the snake. The result was that the snake killed the hunter's dog. In this case the hunter is Imperium, the dog is the future of Imperium, the snake is the dangers of the galaxy and the tau are the weasel
I don’t believe that the tau would be the weasel I think the emperors web way project would be the weasel for 30k because the tau function pretty much the same as any of the usual dark age xenos races. While the emperors web way project would have actively assisted humanity against arguably most of its threats including its purpose against bypassing the dangers of warp travel which would assist against the orks, eldar, dark eldar, and later perhaps the tyranids since the webway would have made a lot more reliable method of galactic travel than what we have in 40k.
I remember that in the lore, when T'au killed the Chapter Master of some SM chapter (don't remember if that of Raven Guard, or some other), they gloated about killing the Emperor of Mankind himself. Just like in another narrated Battle Report T'au was fighting Slaanesh-oriented cultists, and when they killed their leader, they thought that they killed Slaanesh himself.
I'd love to see a belisarius cawl Tau meet up novel that would be awesome, but also just the need for the Tau to get the big update on the state the galaxy post rift
Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans position as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl
Impeccable choice of quotes MK! I saw the one from Siggy and went "damn Sigimund went HARD, shame it's only the second most metal quote in 40k". Imagine my happiness when Rylanor (the #1, now and always) was also there!
The thumbnail artwork will always be amazing to showcase anything from the 40k universe be it epic, heroic, or even tragic. Seeing a Space Marine just tear out a Tau from the inside of a Battlesuit is truly something that I'm amazed has not been told and shown in other artworks or stories yet.
It's amazing artwork as always, but I do have to raise an eye at the scale difference depicted in this one a bit. ^ ^; Like, Tau fire caste are still approximately the same height as a regular human, which makes that Marine almost the size of a Dreadnought. I mean just look at the size of that bolter, and imagine the Tau as a guardsman instead. It's a little hilarious, but I am nitpicking. Everything else is immaculate.
This is my personal metaphor for it, similar to Majors Boar and Porcipine explanation. It's like if you're currently fighting a bear, a beefcake chimp and an alligator, whilst wolves circle around you, but there's also this one wasp that keeps stinging you. Sure, you'd REALLY love to get rid of that damn wasp if you could, but right now your hands are just too damned busy trying to stop those jaws from closing on you. The wasp hurts, sure, it's insulting and making the fight harder, definitely, but ultimately it's not going to kill you. And heck, it's even stung the chimp and the wolves a few times. So for now the most you can do is glare at it in frustration and tell it to f*** off. A lot of people forget or underestimate just how desperate the Imperium's situation is. They're literally fighting for survival, and have been slowly losing for a very long time already.
Imagine the reason why the Tau exists and powerful is because of the Emperor leading the squats to them and making them part of the emperors grand plan. A stretch but imagine.
As a Tau player and fan; The Imperium could absolutely commit enough forces to eradicate the Tau Empire. They don't because it would be a case of mutually assured destruction. Would the Imperium win? Yes. Undeniably. Would they cripple themselves doing so? Also yes. The forces that would need to be dedicated to the task would pull critical resources from elsewhere and other, more pressing fronts; and the task itself no matter what would be a protracted, slow campaign. The Imperium is already beset on all sides by other factions; that would use a prolonged Tau/Imperial war to their advantage and overwhelm the Imperium on most if not all other fronts. The territory that the Imperium would claim/reclaim from the Tau would be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of planets and sectors that would lost to other factions like the Tyranids, Orks & forces of Chaos. This has been made even more apparent with the great rift. For the Imperium to spend all of that focus on the Tau; they could almost guarantee that they'd be kissing most if not all of the Imperium Nihilus goodbye. Factor in then the amount of manpower, manufacturing capacity, resource generation, troop tithes, etc. that would all be lost and you'd likely get a domino effect of the Imperium just collapsing in under itself unable to sustain it's war machine with the severe losses suffered rather than the slow wax and waning that the Imperium does currently that is far more manageable for it. So again, could they wipe out the Tau? Sure. It's just not worth it for what they'd lose. The price of that victory is too high.
I dont think it would cripple them, but they would lose numerous worlds in the process to other forces. But overall the imperium would be intact and recover.
If anything, in some ways that level of consolidation they'd have to do might be a good thing for them. They'd really need to reevaluate how they continue to fight against all the other threats and possibly give them a new chance to advance.
Yea, the tau have about 100 worlds. Their military is super advanced for their size and age. But if the imperium is willing to sacrifice 1000 or even 5000 of their worlds they'd be able to recover without much worry considering they have about 1 million worlds.
When I first stumbled upon your page I was drunk and had a vague idea of Warhammer but you truly sparked my interest in it by explaining things in such a comical way and I'm just so thankful
Frankly, wiping out the Tau would be a way bigger effort than the Imperium could ever afford. Like, bigger than the Indomitus crusade. A quarter of their population are trained from birth, with armour better than Scions get, with guns better than Space Marines gets, with tanks better than the Imperial guard, and with orders of magnitude more crisis suits than the imperium has space marines. The Imperium could do it, but the trillions of tau soldiers would absolutely decimate them and leave them easy pickings for literally any other faction.
That was a great video Majorkill. Now, how about asking the opposite question : why the Imperium and the T’au (and the Eldas) don’t make an actual alliance ?
The Imperium at large is too xenophobic for that, and while inquisitors and other high rank people have deals with the tau, those are kept secret because the puritan inquisitors will purge them without a second thought. The Eldar suffer from the eldar diplomacy syndrome, the Tau don't take too well when Eldar do shit to save 1 or 2 eldar lives at the cost of millions of tau or tau allies. Best case scenario you get some reasonable primarch, like Guilliman, or better yet, The Khan, to negotiate a peace treaty/alliance in which both factions remain separate, back each other against other threats, while all expansion into each other's territory gets forbidden.
I've really come to like the Tau. The idea that they're a reasonable, "generic" sci-fi civilization really plays well at being a straight-man in the crazy, crazy setting. Also a good perspective to view the Imperium thru a hostile eye, as that one 3D animated film showed
This is why I have adopted them. Love the sci fi look and the fact they're the good (ish) guys. I'm working towards kit bashing some guevesa too! If I were living in that universe I'd want to be in a human tau world!
Some people said that Tau occupy the place humans usually occupy in Sci Fi settings as a ‘rising power’ quickly achieving technological progress that took older empires millennia worth of effort. Add in constant alliances with other smaller species against a larger genocidal force that long dominated the stars. Unfortunately for them, that genocidal force are also the ‘main character’ faction.
That and Cain improved Tau-Imperial realations quite a bit which probably why Inquisition has all those deals with them, and even if Cain is "offically" dead wouldn't suprise me if that was just Amberley letting him actually retire while probably still dragging him into life threatening situations.
LOL The first time I played Space Marines I rolled really bad and killed my plasma marine, when the Tau came out and they don't die to Plasma weapons overheating I was instantly sold :P
"Will you punch a porcupine sitting in the corner or a hog that is wrecking havoc? Punch the f*cking hog" Classic Australian proverb, right there with : "Don't drink beer with kangaroos mate."
What if the emperor ruled mankind with the philosphophy of the greater good or what if the Tau were around as old as humanity (or maybe like 2000 or so years younger because of the rate at which they develop) and then the emp made a alliance with the tau. Maybe pre emperor humanity made a alliance with them and then the tau fell apart with humanity after the AI revolution than the emperor swoped in and fixed both or maybe just humanity and left the tau to die. That sounds like something fun to think about.
30k was no place to be a peaceful--ish alien race. that just made you an easy target. the tau represent the exact kind of species the legions would have curb-stomped into oblivion.
But that is the thing, if the Emperor lived all the human history why go autocrat regim? He doesn't understand that is not the best. That the elites will lost contact with the reality and make dumb decisions. Or turn corrupt?
Tbf, the same could be said for every xeno faction except Dark eldar and Harlequins, and they’re only safe because the Imperium has no practical way of getting to them.
A point a lot of people miss as well is that the tau don't wipe worlds out, which means they can be retaken without much damage. Nids, chaos and orks ruin planets/destroy them so it's more valuable to stop them as even if you take the worlds back, they might be barren wastelands
True. Technically if you lose a world to the Tau, but are able to retake it a few decades later, you probably get back a far better world than you originally lost. xD (Although I imagine the Imperium would just mulch up most of the Tau tech and industry for scrap, not knowing how to use/maintain it nor tolerating the concept.)
A cool what if idea. What if garro found rylanor on isvan 3 when he was searching for loken. Dreadnought rylanor as a member of the knights of malcador in the horus heresy provably wouldn't change much but it would be an interesting scenario
@@himenolover69uwu LuL no, Rylanor gets bodied by Fulgrim every day of the week and twice on Sunday. The only reason he got a one up on snake boi is because GW gave him honor plot armor and had the thousand sons betray their primarch, legion, and chaos god because “Rylanor is just so cool”
@@jgblkshot8375 Betrayed chaos, did an action that destroyed themselves. ie, they betrayed Magnus by sacrificing themselves for an enemy for absolutely no reason. Didn’t think I would need to spell that out, but here we are.
@@rickkcir2151 The Thousand Sons are one of the legions least loyal to their Chaos God, and considering Abaddon erased every aspect of Horus from the Sons of Horus it cant really be that taboo to betray your primarch in the traitor legions
In my opinion its not even just a matter of logistical difficulty or threat prioritization, with the great rift and generally the state of the galaxy as of m42 it is functionally impossible for Terra or Grand Inquisitors to gather an army big enough to throw at any one threat to the point of wiping it out. Let alone the idea of them somehow managing to get *every* imperial soldier from all across the milky way on board, the only reason Guilliman even sort of accomplished this is because Cawl randomly pulled nearly a million space marines out of the rainy day jar. The imperium technically having access to several hundred billion or even trillion soldiers cumulatively doesnt mean they can just use all of them at once.
@@warherojango936remember the forge world that, before farsight liberated it, forced tau prisoners of all kinds to make a horrifically grueling death march to a lava forge only for them to force them into said lava to "help regulate temperatures"?
I know I don't get to act surprised by it by now, but Majorkill being the "haha funny cursewords" guy while also giving solid, in-depth astropolitical and military reasoning remains top-tier content.
It's actually a sign of honesty when a person is comfortable with swearing and such as it typically is a case of someone just being emotionally expressive without trying to tailor their words. The bad guy stigma associated with swearing is so nonsensical Also, there's a funny meme regarding attitudes towards swearing in different countries that's appropriate here. An American, a Brit and an Australian are asked if they ever swear. The American gasps and says "No! Never!" The Brit shrugs and says "Meh, sometimes, when I'm surprised or something." The Australian looks deadly serious and says "It's the law that we swear with every other word."
Yeah right ? Sometimes when I see the title of his new videos, I’m wondering if it will just be usual swearing and absurd humor, but yet Majorkill is also quite good at relating thoughtful and interesting facts and arguments, making his videos very interesting.
"Space marines". They made simplistic simulacrums that were destroyed with ease by real space marines. They later gave up on trying to create space marines since they couldn't get it right.
Yeah, if the Tau made full-on Space Marines, I'm pretty sure the Imperium would come down on them hard. Sure, they could resist, but the Tau could be crippled. And the Traitor Legions have yet to assail the Tau Empire. If the World Eaters or Iron Warriors gave it a crack, they could do lastkng damage to the Tau pretty easily. Chaos doesn't care for tech or laws of physics, so the Tau would not be prepared for them. They have no psykers, no anti-daemon measures and no reliable Warp drives. If anything, the Tau should be scared of Chaos more than the Imperium. 8/
The armor and weapons were scavaged and the SM were slightly buff humans. They didnt create anything and gw has mentioned tau have little to no ability in bio engineering.
Its interesting to think about the Tau being the next species to take center stage in the galaxy. First it was the Old Ones, then the Eldari, and now humanity is in its slow stagnation and fall after its time in the spotlight. Like, the Tau's optimism and "good" intentions (relative word in the setting, I know) are a bit like how you'd imagine Humanity was at the start of their ascension.
I imagine it’s some science experiment made by the mechanicum. I mean think about it, every time a human makes ai, it immediately decides it has to kill all life, tau make ai, it’s a cute lil drone that works hard. Mechanicum is probably jealous
New lore from Space Marine book says how Tau actually made a space jump to planetary sector very close to Baal (don't aske me how) and have started to rally up all Imperial worlds around it against the Blood Angels. Imagine the retribution they will suffer for that.
You're talking about the Startide Nexus, which is a wormhole accidentally created as a result of Tau experimentation with new forms of FTL travel. It's in the Northern Ultima Segmentum, fairly close to Baal, yeah. The Tau have declared it as their "fifth sphere of expansion" and turned the place into a fortress. The Blood Angels already repelled Tau attempts to take a few of their worlds in the Red Scar itself, but it's pretty unlikely for the Tau to receive much co-ordinated large scale retribution though, because the space lies in the eastern portion of the Imperium Nihilus, cut off from Tera, overrun with both chaos and Tyranids, and generally in a total state of perpetual clusterfuck. To be honest it'd probably be in the Blood Angels best interests to just leave the Tau alone so long as they don't start trouble again, and hope they continue to fend off incoming chaos raids for them, (like they already did with the Death Guard).
the problem has always been that 1 on 1 the imperium lose so they need to totally overwhelm the Tau but that would make them lose more systems (being undefended) than they would gain back from the Tau
That really really depends on the Unit and circumstances I don’t think a fire warrior would win against any normal guardsman in melee and a lot of Regiments a made of excellent marksman/snipers or scouts so they don’t have the edge in that regard and it’s similar with most more ridiculous Units except for titans the tau don’t really have a good counter to the bigger titans likewise the imperium doesn’t have that much of them Also their slow space travel would severely hinder them in a real war with the imperium it’s hard to react to your enemy if he can defeat your armies before you can reinforce them So yeah I don’t see your point that 1v1 the tau would win but also the imperium wouldn’t commiting to this becauseit would still cost to much resources the tau are no problem at all at the moment but in a few thousand years with a bigger empire and better ftl technology (if they manage to get that) they will become a big problem for the imperium but they will never be as dangerous as the nids, necrons or orks (should the Orks get stronger/more intelligent remember the war of the beast that was just one krork leading normal orks)
@@EASY7356 it’s already in the lore that the mechanicus won’t deploy Titans against tau anymore unless they are super protected as they get ruined by the tau. Also they’ve already had forgeworld books showing a good imp vs Tau war and the tau just win until the marines come in or the imp guard deploy so many people or guns they overwhelm the tau positions. The lore version of the Tau plays nothing like the tabletop. The imperium has to force them into fights with either overwhelming numbers from all sides or surgical strikes with marines etc the whole Damocles gulf is a perfect example and the tau are only better now. The imperium pumped loads into and took back a single system. They realised it was costing too much resources and had bigger priorities
@@EASY7356 no offense but hammerheads and tiger sharks annihilate titans, you sound like you get your lore from people's opinions. The agrellan conflict was one of the biggest proofs the empire would need SIGNIFICANTLY more firepower to handle the Tau, worse yet they advance on per battle basis, whereas if the imperium is losing, they dont adapt they just throw more bodies at the situation, when the costs rise too high they get pissy and just wipe out the planet. Anything new the Tau come up with (Riptides eg) the imperium are just like "oh this new battle suit takes 5 astartes to bring down instead of 3" so just being more meat. its how they do.
@@Dexter_SolidAnyone who thinks otherwise hasnt read much lore. The Imperium os a literal meat grinder. Bodies are cheaper than tech, so lets jam their tank tracks with corpses. To beat pretty much anyone, the Imperium needs to have overwhelming odds in their favor. Luckily, they uave a near unlimited population lol
I mean the imperium going after the Tau with everything else going on is like storming your well armed neighbors house to attack them because they trimmed the bushes on your side of the property line..while your house is on fire, and being robbed, and has an issue with violent squatters, and no insurance.
Superb video as always @majorkill. Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?
This falls under: "It's not worth it, I've got other shit to take care of!" - Seriously, yes the Tau are advanced (they are basically just a bit below Age of Technology humanity over all, sure they don't have their own version of STC yet, but they have AI so their drones are basically fancier Men of Iron!), but the Imperium has the advantage in manpower and resources! If the Imperium truly wants it, then the Tau are bugs on a windshield, but if they go bug squashing they'll lose on other fronts that are often more important!
🤣Seeing as technological advancement is heresy, the Tau would definitely clap plenty against the Imperium. Their Space Marines are target practice for Crisis Suits sniping them dead with rail guns and obliterating their forces with enough rockets and missiles to fill the sky. Not to mention, you attack the Tau, you attack all the races they've made alliances with. And some of those races are just as deadly as Space Marines.
@@Red-Check-Mark I am not saying the Tau don't punch above their weight (especially since their weapons are this advanced and they have robots/drones they can sacrifice easily before they have to throw troops in a melee - it does happen, with enough of a superior force they can't simply stay at range forever!), but the Imperium would win - and lose forces they need on other fronts...so yeah, they will not do it! Hell, the Tau are also among those aliens who can be reasoned with and who sometimes share your goals, so wiping them out is not a pressing need!
@@dreamingflurry2729 The Imperium fan boys really use any excuse to think the Imperium stands any chance. Their empire is dying. The literal only reason the Imperium is still kicking is because GW needs to keep selling for more money. In a real war scenario, if all this actually happened, the Imperium would have been overrun with Tyranids long ago. Especially at both Baal and Maccrage or however you spell it. The Tyranids, my faction, were overwhelming both planets, but because any major victory for the Tyranids will make the Humanity shills whine and bitch, stupid plot devices saved both planets.
That would be interesting to see, especially since the Dark Angels do really good against the Tau Going by the book War Of Secrets of course, every time the Tau and Dark Angels fought in that book, the Dark Angels dog walked them
@@isaiahknickerbocker6207Are you not gonna mention Kais curb stomping multiple dark angel squads at a time by himself? Lol Also since they are a chapter that are more readily able to use dark age tech, I'd like to see the Tau's POV at difference in tech level.
@@Mr._Idiot440 those weren't Dark Angels, they were Angels of Absolution and successor Chapter, and he got his cheeks clapped pretty good, he didn't even kill them all, they killed themselves and destroyed his suit because his support wasn't paying attention to the skies above their small fortress He did good against infected Marines, he nearly got himself killed several times after he dealt with the ones corrupted by the Psy-Plague, and would've died in the blast if he wasn't a modified Tau, hell he only did good because he had that suit, without it he would've been killed the moment he got in close to the Terminators
But that actually might be the biggest threat the tau represent. Everyone is too busy to deal with them, But if they keep advancing at the rate they currently are, in about Millenia, They might have already advanced to the point it is too late to just "Wipe them out"
I think the reason why the Imperium doesn’t try to wipe out the Tau is the same reason they haven’t tried to wipe out any other race. They would have to allocate most, if not all of their power to do it, leaving Terra and the rest of the imperium open for another race to invade them.
Allocate all of its power? Size difference of Imperium and Tau is mindboggling. Entire Tau empire is size of realm of Ultramar, one tiny section of Imperium. Democles crusade almost took out Tau (at their smaller size to be honest) and its force was several times smaller than what Imperium used to attack Vrax, a single chaos occupied planet. Imperium wouldnt need 5% of its power to destroy the Tau but at the moment even 1% is too much to spare.
I'd love to read the book where Guilliman encounters the Tau, just to see what his reaction is lol. Honestly I'd love a deeper dive into where Guilliman's head is at in the 41st millennium, period. Yeah he wants to save humanity, but he's seen now that his "father's" goal appears to be to become a powered up Warp God himself, and the Imperium is a backwards shithole of superstition, widespread injustice, squalor and misery. The Imperial Truth was a lie, and the average world in Ultramar is a hundred times better off than the average Imperial world anywhere else. It makes you wonder exactly what Guilliman believes in any more, beyond obviously wanting to marshal the immense forces of the Imperium to fight enemies that would obliterate humanity period.
Asking why the Imperium doesnt destory the Tau Empire is like asking why doesn't the US destroy Iran. Sure, we could 100% do it, but we'd have to abandon other projects and fights to do it... and that would be disastrous
Basically, the Imperium doesn't catch a break from constant wars on every border, the Tau will take too many resources to destroy, and most importantly they're the only race in 40k for whom peace *IS* an option which the Imperium is forced to pick.
As Weshammer said: "If the imperium turns their full attention into wiping out the tau, there is no doubt they can. But the issue is they can't." (I am 100% sure I didn't type exactly what he said cuz I forgot exactly what he said)
Am I the only one who thinks a large-scale alliance with two of any large faction at this point would be actually interesting? Instead of just “not me=bad”
It would be, but the issue narrative wise is that it'd probably signal the coming end of a franchise if that were to happen and I don't think GW wants to do that anytime soon.
If they ever get to an "end times" era they could sell it like a distant period coexisting game-wise with 40k, kind of like 30k. In that scenario the logical thing to do to ramp up the stakes would be to have the Eldar, Imperium, and Tau team up against the main bulk of the Tyranids, a galaxy-wide Waagh, and of course Chaos. To add some nuance you could have rebellions occur throughout the Imperium as some refuse to ever work with xenos and decry Girlyman as a false son of the emperor (a pretense in some cases for greedy despots to chase their own agendas). Have Abadman launch the final crusade, this time with the full might of the dark mechanicum and all traitor legions behind him. Also, make sure Abman actually chills somebody important so he feels like less of a joke. Then of course you'd do something with Ynarrgi or whatever they're called, and have the Necron dynasties arise across the galaxy--some fighting each other in madness, others fighting against all others, some for one side or the other. Perhaps the end game could involve some scheme shannigans, a kind of last bid utilizing elements from all the various races--necron tech, tau warp immunity/insensitivity, the webway, etc. Maybe it could involve harnessing the psychic energies of the entire imperium to fuel something? Not sure, but there's cool stuff you could do. As for the ending...practically speaking there won't be an ending, of course, as there's money to be made and the setting really is just that--a setting, not really a conventional story. First thought would be to have the ending be a partial one that merely ushers in a new status quo--maybe part of the galaxy is merged with the warp, while the remainder is defended by the various factions of the alliance as well as any who survived, all of it rife with intrigue and tensions and splinter factions. That's an interesting enough setting, as there'd be a higher variety of storylines and faction relationships to be explored as opposed to the "me kill you, you kill me" schtick of earlier eras, while still having plenty of warfare. Just my two (read: two million) cents.
Short answer, because the Tau models sell. If the marketplace actually hated the Tau as much as the memes imply. Then Games Workshop would have axed them years ago.
No they didn’t. Stop repeating memes and go and read the books. The actual description was ‘warrior king’ - as in, exactly what chapter masters are for the most part.
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Hello Majorkill,
Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
Now this is some heresy
Tig bitty Tau propaganda 4tw!
@majorkill Did you go to newy high?
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Or in 40k: The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy, just not maybe right now.
In the famous words of Commissar Cain; 'The enemy of my enemy is a problem for later.'
Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion.
Day 1 of asking Majorkill for it
As much as I also wanna know that I don't think there's any good stories about em so it'll probably be a short video or an actual short
Say please first
@@kastor6497 Nah, there's plenty of material, like the epic badassness of the Chief Librarian of the Black Templars. That guy has kicked so much ass yet so few know about him.
Why don't you ask nicely (say "please") for it? He isn't your pet is he?
I will always advocate for the Tau, in my opinion their addition was a very good idea, to show how stereotypical sci-fi contrasts with 40k. And they do have that charm of not knowing what the hell is going on in the galaxy, and are slowly realizing how uncaring the universe is
Basically they’re meant to be the “Normal” faction of 40k?
@@apolloknight9521 More of the children that get to go through all of the horror slowly and we get to see if they keep their sanity and purity through all of it. They could become the saviors of the galaxy or just another horrorfest to live in.
@@apolloknight9521A little bit yeah. Also one of their overall narrative themes from recent books shows a them going through the same beats as the Imperium prior to it's fall with the question being posed "Will they find a way to make their ideals come true or will they fall just as the imperium/eldar/necrons did?"
The Tau puts the Imperium in perspective. To the Tau, humans are an unfathomably ancient, unfathomably advanced, extremely malevolent, much more physically imposing and psychically-entuned empire, similar to how humans view the Eldar. An apocalyptic war to a Tau is a minor skirmish to a Space Marine, like how the Combine from Half-Life view Earth as a blip on their radar. It's basically a race reversal of the classic alien invasion trope.
They act all high and mighty until the day they get a full dose of chaos.
The Tau's effectiveness against the tyranids is so understated. They are probably the perfect counter to them.
-Their speed of adaptation with tech actually matches up to the tyranids biological adaptation. You know why hive fleet gorgon's whole shtick is rapid evolution? Cause all their biggest battles happened against the tau, and they basically got forced into an arms race against the blue boys.
-They don't use the warp for their ftl travels. Their gravitic drives/zfr accelerators don't depend on the warp at all to travel, neither do they need Navigators. This is a huge advantage in their case as the shadow in the warp does nothing to hinder their travel.
-Their empire being smaller than the imperium is also an advantage, as they need to traverse a lot less ground to cover their defenses. Combined with their bureaucracy being a hell of a lot more streamlined than the imperium means they can coordinate defense efforts near instantly.
-They also dont have any psykers, so their battle doctrines never really build themselves around psyker units, which again makes the shadow in the warp useless against them.
-Their "bio weapons" are technological in nature, utilizing self replicating nanobots. This is something the tyranid can neither replicate nor build up resistances against.
-Ion weapons. They use Ion weapons. There's no biomass to recover if its all fucking atomized.
To me the Tau and the Tyranid are just two sides of the same coin. One's a rapidly advancing technocracy, and the other is a rapidly advancing bioweapon.
While I'd personally argue that the Necrons are a better counter due to it being basically guaranteed that the Tyranids will lose more than they gain and Necrons not having any biomass of their own, while also having all the advantages the Tau has related to the warp, I still have to agree that the Tau are one of the best at fighting the Tyranids.
It's actually a strangely rare thing in sci-fi writing that I really have to give 40k props for, regarding Tyranid adaptation. In the regard that frequently in fiction, any faction or species that is described to be "rapidly adaptable" is treated like adaptation just means gradually stacking on more and more passive "buffs" until the organism/tech is somehow godlike and perfect. When in reality that's simply not what adaptation means or how it works. And the Tyranids overall, actually follow this realistically.
When the Tyranids adapt to a given weapon, that new adaptation can often mean sacrificing a previous adaptation, or comes with other trade offs. This was specifically described in how Tyranids were able to adapt to better withstand Tau or Imperial weaponry, but not both at the same time, which led to a temporary alliance. That when they bulk up their forces on stronger hides and armour growths, it does slow them down.
There's no "best" Tyranid. Only the best tool for a given job. Which is awesome to see, given how many other fictional "assimilate and adapt" factions in fiction, such as the Borg from StarTrek, fail to properly reflect this key (and fun) dynamic most of the time.
Until genestealer gets his hands on etherial...which might have already happened. Tau cannot disobey etherials and if genestealer cults use etherials of their own tau are screwed. Even worse if Hive fleet gets their hands on etherial DNA they will be able to produce their own organisms cable of in worse case controlling tau, in best case sow confusion and fuck with their minds.
@@Jbertius yeah the Necrons are basically the technological version of Tyranids not the Tau. But the Tau are up there as the worst possible matchups for the nids
@OK-yy6qz really? The Imperium and orks literally just throw bodies at the Nids. Orks reproduce fast and the Imperium has space marines and strong units to throw to counteract. The Tau have been around a small time compared to the others and can defend agai st the Nids, and actually care about losses. Far as im concerned besides the Necrons the Tau and Eldar have the best chance of beating the Nids. Orks at least get stronger from the large Waghh's whereas the imperium just suffers losses until they win with no gain. The Imperium might be a lot of people's favorites but they are honestly $hit.
The Tau are very lucky that they survived the Imperium to live and rebuild, and blue means luck according to the Orks.
Is there any color with a negative effect in Orks logic?
oomie colors @@jorgeserna8411
@jorgeserna8411 yellow could be negative depending what you happened to paint
@@jorgeserna8411blue skin and red armor from the farsight enclave are fast and lucky for orks
well this explains the blue berry boy scouts
Fun fact: The Damocles Crusade was very small compared to the greater side of things.
Most Imperial crusades take several centuries to organise, the Democles was thrown together in about 10 years.. it was barely a blip on the radar of the Imperium.
@@Alastair_that was a retcon and a shitty one at that
@JohnSmith-ik8nt tbh there was also like _5 ships_ in total for the crusade too lmao
How big is an crusadw?
The Imperium would utterly stomp the Tau. They’re simply too busy fighting off galaxy scale threats from all sides.
In short...
-The Tau are hardy enough that, to eliminate them, you'd have to use time and resources that would be better used elsewhere
-They are an asset against many of the Imperium's foes (albeit a begrudging one), so it's worth keeping them around for now
-There are bigger problems the Imperium has to deal with and they can't waste their efforts on the Tau
You’ve got that right.
And the most important thing, u can’t eliminate an entire faction from the tabletop think in the economy of gw
Most important is their mini sells, its all business lol
And diplomacy between the Tau and the Imperium is both sides doing their best to not provoke things enough that the Imperium are willing to destroy the Tau and deal with the consequences later.
@@MetalWar04 real reason why anything can or cannot happen in 40k
I would add that Guilliman is estremely practical with this type of thing. As a result would definilty see them as an asset and has been shown to be willing to work with zenos.
Xenos
@@Yesitsmyrealname *Filthy xenos
Considering Robert's wife is a Xeno, he probably would give the Tau a chance
@@cincau3243 *forehead soreness intensifies
Simple, (pretty sure this exact thing is in the lore) because the Imperium faces more active threats on the daily, the amount of resources it would take to crush the Tau are much better spent elsewhere as since the Damocles Crusade the Tau have been pretty explicit not to F with the Imperium again. So the Imperium would be wasting a lot of resources on a threat that isn’t really there for not a lot of gain while leaving themselves exposed to attacks from whatever enemies the forces they used to crush the Tau were dealing with previously.
The Damocles Gulf also lacks any important worlds, so the Imperium does not care that much about the worlds that defect.
It’s exactly that; they’re more trouble than they’re worth. Overall they’re pretty harmless comparatively and they expand slowly due to lacking warp travel or an effective equivalent. Inquisitors and rogue traders can also use them since unlike most other xenos, they will actually talk and generally not backstab you immediately. With tau, you know what you’re dealing with and what they want is pretty tame
There are bigger fish to fry than some devilfish
Also if the Imperium try to do another crusade againts Tau Empire it will be harder than the last time because this time Tau are more prepered thus causing the Imperium to spend even more resources
"Damocles Crusade the Tau have been pretty explicit not to F with the Imperium again."
That's just blatantly untrue given that the Tau have continued to fuck with the imperium since then. After the Agrellan campaign, the Mechanicus had to set a portion of space on fire (Really) just to keep the Tau contained. What happened after that? The Tau built an accidental space bridge, discovered their own chaos entity, wiped out a death guard fleet(With the help of said warp entity most likely) and then had one of the Students of Puretide solo a Space Marine Chapter's command.
They definitely still Fuck with the Imperium.
Pretty much, but not entirely correct on the part about the Tau not screwing with the Imperium since. They've still had numerous conflicts, with the Tau even conquering several Imperial worlds and encroaching into their space since the Damocles Crusade. At the time of the crusade the Tau had only just begun their "2nd sphere of expansion". They're now on their fifth expansion, with the latest even being in what used to be Ultramar space (before the great rift cut it off).
Ultimately the reason mostly stays the same though. The Tau are still far far less aggressive than any of the Imperium's other pressing concerns and world ending threats. The Tau have been relatively careful to exploit opportunities and "nibble" away at the imperium without doing enough to warrant a proper co-ordinated response. (Although they've definitely made lasting rivals and inspired a vendetta out of the Raven Guard at least.)
It's like if you're currently fighting a bear, a beefcake chimp and an alligator, whilst wolves circle around it all, but there's also this one wasp that keeps stinging you. Sure, you'd REALLY love to get rid of that damn wasp if you could, but right now your hands are just too damned busy trying to stop those jaws from closing on you. So for now the most you can do is glare at it in frustration and hope it f***s off.
6:25 As the Tau mechs are red, they go 3x faster when fighting the Orks who see their color.
And that's why the Farsight Enclaves are expert Ork fighters, they're so fast they literally dodge bullets, Armored Core style
Lore-wise, it's only 1.5x faster. Yeah, "only" 1.5x faster. 😎
@@kamiwriterleonardo6345 Well, Commander Farsight did write the book on how to fight Orks, or at least the Tau version of that book.
@@Archon3960 DA'S ONLY FER SMOL RED. BIGG RED BE FASTA BECOZZ DERE'S MO' RED N I'.
*YOUS AV' NO UNDASTANDI' O' ORK MEKANIKS! YOUS' NEED A BE SHU'UP!!*
E'Z OBVIUS DA I' DOSN WERK LOIK DAT!
*_BLO'Y SMOOFSKIN MOITBAG TAYNY HOOMIE SMOLTHING..._*
_n da kalls issel a big smort thinkie. izza blo'y joke swatti dis... stewpuhd hoomie..._
Oi like da bigg warmachine tho. E'z got a good thinking. E'z understand uz.
@@Archon3960 Oim sorry, da's only fer smol red. Bigg red be fasta becozz dere's mo' red n i'. Yous av' no undastandi' o' ork mekaniks, n yous' neeta be no talkings.
E'zz obvius da n i' dosn werk loik dat, ye's blo'y smoofskin moitbag tayny hoomie smolthing...
_n da kalls issel a big smort thinkie. izza blo'y joke swatti dis... stewpuhd hoomie..._
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Oi like da bigg warmachine tho. E'z got a good thinking. Me's not wanting to stomp a warmachine. E'z unnerstandin' da meka boyz thinkin' brains. E kan be loik pet. Me's likin.
1:46 Space Marine: "Time to squish you!"
Tau: *squeaks*
Space Marine: "What?"
Tau: *squeaks repeatedly*
Space Marine: "Oh my Man-Emperor! This is amazing!"
Tau: "Why are you doing that?! That's my ribs crushing my lungs!"
Love tfs
Squeaky toys for space wolves
hahaha! That is both offensive and hilarious!
The second half of the video was on point, though I hate to say Major, the earlier portion covering the Damocles Crusade was pretty misleading and misses some really important details.
*(( TL:DR VERSION.* The crusade failed embarrassingly badly, and was stopped almost immediately. The primary reason it flopped, is due to the conflict being engineered to bait it into a trap. It was technically the Imperium that was taken by surprise, not the Tau (sort of). It was also a significant factor in contributing to Farsight's later distrust of the Ethereals.))
You describe the crusade taking or cleansing "world after world", and imply it made significant ground into Tau space. After retaking their own worlds, the crusade in total touched only two Tau systems, and three inhabited Tau worlds. Sy'l'kell, a fringe agricultural colony of only 7m population, Viss'el, an even smaller bumfuck fishing world of less than a 1m populace, and finally Dal'yth, a cosmopolitan trade hub, the first actual Sept world the crusade encountered, and the last it would touch, retreating without being able to take it. Whilst the crusade certainly tested the early Tau forces of the era, it ultimately barely made the slightest dent into their empire. The crusade had lost a third of it's fleet by the time it entered ceasefire and non-pursuit negotiations and began evacuating it's forces from Dal'yth, which I also have to point out to people time and again, happened BEFORE the news of the Tyranids and the recall order arrived, not after.
There's a much lesser known but key piece of lore regarding the Damocles Crusade however, that is rare to see mentioned. Anyone reading what I wrote above might wonder how the crusade could have gone quite so badly. How did the Imperium underestimate their foe THAT badly, and how did the Tau manage to bring enough forces to bear in time to repel it before it could make any relevant headway? Well in the Farsight books, it's strongly implied that the Damocles Crusade was actually carefully provoked and deliberately baited by the Ethereals. About how there had been an abnormal build up of forces concentrated around Dal'yth prior to the crusade, contrary to any motive the Tau military commanders themselves were made aware of. Meaning that when the crusade came in, the Tau were effectively ready for them, even if it still came as a shock to their military leadership.
Farsight accuses the Ethereals of deliberately instigating the crusade whilst keeping military leadership in the dark, to ensure it could be stopped but not without losses, to use as propaganda for inspiring Tau resolve against the Imperium, and bolster further Tau militarisation. Which is exactly what happened. The Imperium was led into a trap against a faction that had previously shown almost no military capability, and the Tau defenders that "just so happened" to be in the right location at the time, were used as unwitting sacrifices "for the greater good" to paint a picture of a valiant pyrrhic defence against a terrible foe.
Despite all the memes about the Tau being naive, the Etheral's routinely display nearly Eldar levels of manipulative fuckery, and they know a lot more than they let on. In the lead up to the Crusade, the Tau possessed control over two Imperial worlds. They had good intel about the nature of the Imperium, and the degree of response it would be likely to make. Meanwhile the Imperium had basically no idea what was on the other side of the Damocles Gulf before they crossed it. They had a vague idea of the small xeno empire on the other side, but had no prior reason to believe them to have any degree of competent forces, let alone that they'd be concentrated in advance (whilst left to wonder why). The Damocles Crusade lore was basically written out like a series of Sun'Tzu quotes. Feigning weakness, concealing your true strength, and exploiting the over confidence/eagerness of your enemy. Which is no surprise at all, given the early inspirations for the Tau as a faction.
"If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him."
"Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance."
"He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious."
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun'Tzu
The Ethereals KNEW they were outmatched, and would be totally overwhelmed in regular open warfare. So they engineered a conflict that gave them the means to defeat a greater foe, and turn the outcome into a lasting advantage.
Sun Tzu the OG
THANK YOU. It’s also important to note that the tau have advanced quite far since then. It’s likely that if all other threats to the imperium were removed, that the imperium would still crumble before defeating the tau.
@@mysteriousstranger5873 Well, don't get too carried away. ^ ^;
If all other threats to the Imperium were genuinely removed, the Imperium would definitely crush the Tau as it currently stands. The comparative difference in size of each empire in a true 1v1 is just too much. But something as crazy as every other faction getting wiped out is most certainly not going to happen, so it doesn't really matter.
But yes, people always like to talk about past events regarding the Tau as if time has stood still. They will talk of the Tau being shocked about encountering new threats, but they never mention how readily the Tau have always rose to meet the challenge.
They love to scoff about petty early days events during the crusade, but not about how the Tau have steadily conquered dozens of worlds from the Imperium since then. How it's the Tau that are on the offensive, and not the other way around.
2:21 "I, Cato Sicarius, am the best diplomat of Aggressive Negotiations with the Tau!" - TTS Cato Sicarius
Imagine you go to the kitchen and find your neighbour eating your food that would probably piss you off but now imaginé that at the same time you have angry crocodiles on your back yard a zombie army on your front yard killing parasites on your roof and a literal portal to hell in the middle of your living room .... That's the Imperium they simply have too much on their plate to worry about that annoying neighbour 😂
Plus sometimes the neighbor helps fights those crocs and zombies
Hahahaha a portal to hell literally in the middle of your living room 😆 🤣 😂 . Bro I can imagine all of these things happening in somebody's house.
Reminds me of the fable of the hunter and the weasel. A weshel was fighting with a snake. The hunter shot a weasel for it's pelt and ignored the snake. The result was that the snake killed the hunter's dog. In this case the hunter is Imperium, the dog is the future of Imperium, the snake is the dangers of the galaxy and the tau are the weasel
I don’t believe that the tau would be the weasel I think the emperors web way project would be the weasel for 30k because the tau function pretty much the same as any of the usual dark age xenos races. While the emperors web way project would have actively assisted humanity against arguably most of its threats including its purpose against bypassing the dangers of warp travel which would assist against the orks, eldar, dark eldar, and later perhaps the tyranids since the webway would have made a lot more reliable method of galactic travel than what we have in 40k.
That final description of a hog and porcupine is the most Australian thing I have heard since Steve Irwin saying crikey
I remember that in the lore, when T'au killed the Chapter Master of some SM chapter (don't remember if that of Raven Guard, or some other), they gloated about killing the Emperor of Mankind himself.
Just like in another narrated Battle Report T'au was fighting Slaanesh-oriented cultists, and when they killed their leader, they thought that they killed Slaanesh himself.
Got a Black Library/Codex source for the second one?
@@willshields4480 article in White Dwarf. Dunno which number, I've seen a screen shot.
Lmao. So innocents, it's so cute.
Are we still spouting the same meme with little to no context
Pretty sure it was Black Templar, which honestly is just impressive.
I'd love to see a belisarius cawl Tau meet up novel that would be awesome, but also just the need for the Tau to get the big update on the state the galaxy post rift
Imagine a guilleman tau itneraction. And the sheer heretical things guilleman would do after diplomacy with them
Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans position as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl
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One day man
KEEP GOING, HE WILL MAKE IT ONE DAY
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I love you man, WE ARE ROOTING FOR YOU.
The tau are the one faction that can be reasond with so not killing them is like keeping a nice tool around for later use
Impeccable choice of quotes MK! I saw the one from Siggy and went "damn Sigimund went HARD, shame it's only the second most metal quote in 40k". Imagine my happiness when Rylanor (the #1, now and always) was also there!
Some General: "My lord primarch, what of the Tau?"
Guilliman: "The who?"
The thumbnail artwork will always be amazing to showcase anything from the 40k universe be it epic, heroic, or even tragic. Seeing a Space Marine just tear out a Tau from the inside of a Battlesuit is truly something that I'm amazed has not been told and shown in other artworks or stories yet.
It's amazing artwork as always, but I do have to raise an eye at the scale difference depicted in this one a bit. ^ ^;
Like, Tau fire caste are still approximately the same height as a regular human, which makes that Marine almost the size of a Dreadnought. I mean just look at the size of that bolter, and imagine the Tau as a guardsman instead. It's a little hilarious, but I am nitpicking. Everything else is immaculate.
I think you hit that nail right on the head. Where Imperials could wipe them out they are currently too busy putting out the bigger fires.
This is my personal metaphor for it, similar to Majors Boar and Porcipine explanation.
It's like if you're currently fighting a bear, a beefcake chimp and an alligator, whilst wolves circle around you, but there's also this one wasp that keeps stinging you. Sure, you'd REALLY love to get rid of that damn wasp if you could, but right now your hands are just too damned busy trying to stop those jaws from closing on you. The wasp hurts, sure, it's insulting and making the fight harder, definitely, but ultimately it's not going to kill you. And heck, it's even stung the chimp and the wolves a few times. So for now the most you can do is glare at it in frustration and tell it to f*** off.
A lot of people forget or underestimate just how desperate the Imperium's situation is. They're literally fighting for survival, and have been slowly losing for a very long time already.
Imagine the reason why the Tau exists and powerful is because of the Emperor leading the squats to them and making them part of the emperors grand plan. A stretch but imagine.
As a Tau player and fan; The Imperium could absolutely commit enough forces to eradicate the Tau Empire. They don't because it would be a case of mutually assured destruction.
Would the Imperium win? Yes. Undeniably. Would they cripple themselves doing so? Also yes. The forces that would need to be dedicated to the task would pull critical resources from elsewhere and other, more pressing fronts; and the task itself no matter what would be a protracted, slow campaign.
The Imperium is already beset on all sides by other factions; that would use a prolonged Tau/Imperial war to their advantage and overwhelm the Imperium on most if not all other fronts. The territory that the Imperium would claim/reclaim from the Tau would be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of planets and sectors that would lost to other factions like the Tyranids, Orks & forces of Chaos.
This has been made even more apparent with the great rift. For the Imperium to spend all of that focus on the Tau; they could almost guarantee that they'd be kissing most if not all of the Imperium Nihilus goodbye.
Factor in then the amount of manpower, manufacturing capacity, resource generation, troop tithes, etc. that would all be lost and you'd likely get a domino effect of the Imperium just collapsing in under itself unable to sustain it's war machine with the severe losses suffered rather than the slow wax and waning that the Imperium does currently that is far more manageable for it.
So again, could they wipe out the Tau? Sure. It's just not worth it for what they'd lose. The price of that victory is too high.
I dont think it would cripple them, but they would lose numerous worlds in the process to other forces. But overall the imperium would be intact and recover.
If anything, in some ways that level of consolidation they'd have to do might be a good thing for them. They'd really need to reevaluate how they continue to fight against all the other threats and possibly give them a new chance to advance.
Yea, the tau have about 100 worlds. Their military is super advanced for their size and age. But if the imperium is willing to sacrifice 1000 or even 5000 of their worlds they'd be able to recover without much worry considering they have about 1 million worlds.
When I first stumbled upon your page I was drunk and had a vague idea of Warhammer but you truly sparked my interest in it by explaining things in such a comical way and I'm just so thankful
@-majorkillYT do tell my friend
Frankly, wiping out the Tau would be a way bigger effort than the Imperium could ever afford. Like, bigger than the Indomitus crusade. A quarter of their population are trained from birth, with armour better than Scions get, with guns better than Space Marines gets, with tanks better than the Imperial guard, and with orders of magnitude more crisis suits than the imperium has space marines.
The Imperium could do it, but the trillions of tau soldiers would absolutely decimate them and leave them easy pickings for literally any other faction.
“Punch the fucking hog” should be on a Majorkill merch Tau shirt
That was a great video Majorkill. Now, how about asking the opposite question : why the Imperium and the T’au (and the Eldas) don’t make an actual alliance ?
The Imperium at large is too xenophobic for that, and while inquisitors and other high rank people have deals with the tau, those are kept secret because the puritan inquisitors will purge them without a second thought.
The Eldar suffer from the eldar diplomacy syndrome, the Tau don't take too well when Eldar do shit to save 1 or 2 eldar lives at the cost of millions of tau or tau allies.
Best case scenario you get some reasonable primarch, like Guilliman, or better yet, The Khan, to negotiate a peace treaty/alliance in which both factions remain separate, back each other against other threats, while all expansion into each other's territory gets forbidden.
I believe he already had a video tackling it.
@@Green-unit ok i will search it
Because they hate each other
The answer is simple; racism.
I've really come to like the Tau. The idea that they're a reasonable, "generic" sci-fi civilization really plays well at being a straight-man in the crazy, crazy setting. Also a good perspective to view the Imperium thru a hostile eye, as that one 3D animated film showed
This is why I have adopted them. Love the sci fi look and the fact they're the good (ish) guys. I'm working towards kit bashing some guevesa too! If I were living in that universe I'd want to be in a human tau world!
Some people said that Tau occupy the place humans usually occupy in Sci Fi settings as a ‘rising power’ quickly achieving technological progress that took older empires millennia worth of effort. Add in constant alliances with other smaller species against a larger genocidal force that long dominated the stars. Unfortunately for them, that genocidal force are also the ‘main character’ faction.
@@Blackwatch8800 damn you GW for making the imperium the "good guys"
That and Cain improved Tau-Imperial realations quite a bit which probably why Inquisition has all those deals with them, and even if Cain is "offically" dead wouldn't suprise me if that was just Amberley letting him actually retire while probably still dragging him into life threatening situations.
LOL The first time I played Space Marines I rolled really bad and killed my plasma marine, when the Tau came out and they don't die to Plasma weapons overheating I was instantly sold :P
What game was this in
"Will you punch a porcupine sitting in the corner or a hog that is wrecking havoc? Punch the f*cking hog"
Classic Australian proverb, right there with : "Don't drink beer with kangaroos mate."
What if the emperor ruled mankind with the philosphophy of the greater good or what if the Tau were around as old as humanity (or maybe like 2000 or so years younger because of the rate at which they develop) and then the emp made a alliance with the tau.
Maybe pre emperor humanity made a alliance with them and then the tau fell apart with humanity after the AI revolution than the emperor swoped in and fixed both or maybe just humanity and left the tau to die.
That sounds like something fun to think about.
Your on to something, now I can't sleep thinking about it.
30k was no place to be a peaceful--ish alien race. that just made you an easy target. the tau represent the exact kind of species the legions would have curb-stomped into oblivion.
@@Robb1977 Well i was also wondering what if the emperor humanity Meet the tau
Smells like heresy...
But that is the thing, if the Emperor lived all the human history why go autocrat regim? He doesn't understand that is not the best. That the elites will lost contact with the reality and make dumb decisions. Or turn corrupt?
Tbf, the same could be said for every xeno faction except Dark eldar and Harlequins, and they’re only safe because the Imperium has no practical way of getting to them.
A point a lot of people miss as well is that the tau don't wipe worlds out, which means they can be retaken without much damage. Nids, chaos and orks ruin planets/destroy them so it's more valuable to stop them as even if you take the worlds back, they might be barren wastelands
True. Technically if you lose a world to the Tau, but are able to retake it a few decades later, you probably get back a far better world than you originally lost. xD
(Although I imagine the Imperium would just mulch up most of the Tau tech and industry for scrap, not knowing how to use/maintain it nor tolerating the concept.)
"Punch the fucking hog" is the best analogy for why the Tau are still around.
I keep having to remind myself that the Tau 4th Sphere Expansion is just floating around in the middle of Imperium Sanctus.
A cool what if idea. What if garro found rylanor on isvan 3 when he was searching for loken. Dreadnought rylanor as a member of the knights of malcador in the horus heresy provably wouldn't change much but it would be an interesting scenario
Fulgrim would have left the heresy much sooner because rylanor would have broken fulgrim pride in the siege of terra
@@himenolover69uwu
LuL no, Rylanor gets bodied by Fulgrim every day of the week and twice on Sunday. The only reason he got a one up on snake boi is because GW gave him honor plot armor and had the thousand sons betray their primarch, legion, and chaos god because “Rylanor is just so cool”
@@rickkcir2151>didn't read the actual fucking story
"thousand sons betray their primarch"
Ah yes, Fulgrim, primarch of the *THOUSAND SONS*
@@jgblkshot8375
Betrayed chaos, did an action that destroyed themselves. ie, they betrayed Magnus by sacrificing themselves for an enemy for absolutely no reason.
Didn’t think I would need to spell that out, but here we are.
@@rickkcir2151 The Thousand Sons are one of the legions least loyal to their Chaos God, and considering Abaddon erased every aspect of Horus from the Sons of Horus it cant really be that taboo to betray your primarch in the traitor legions
7:34 "This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!" - Ramba Ral
In my opinion its not even just a matter of logistical difficulty or threat prioritization, with the great rift and generally the state of the galaxy as of m42 it is functionally impossible for Terra or Grand Inquisitors to gather an army big enough to throw at any one threat to the point of wiping it out. Let alone the idea of them somehow managing to get *every* imperial soldier from all across the milky way on board, the only reason Guilliman even sort of accomplished this is because Cawl randomly pulled nearly a million space marines out of the rainy day jar. The imperium technically having access to several hundred billion or even trillion soldiers cumulatively doesnt mean they can just use all of them at once.
So, much like the drukhari, they can't afford to muster enough forces to solve that problem for good without exposing themselves to greater threats
Imagine the imperuim not wiping out the tau and instead incorporating them, like a second Interex. Space marines with Tau tech.
Brother, there is a big difference between “The Greater Good” and “The Greater Good of Humanity”
Heresy
Too many monodominant marine chapters, and the whole AI thing,the mere suggestion would cause a huge civil war.
The Mechanicus may not see eye to eye with the Tau.
@@warherojango936remember the forge world that, before farsight liberated it, forced tau prisoners of all kinds to make a horrifically grueling death march to a lava forge only for them to force them into said lava to "help regulate temperatures"?
Can you do a video about each Legion's equivalent of The Mournival?
I'll help you with this.
There are none.
@@honestlordcommissarbrighte7921Night a lords have the Kyroptera
I know I don't get to act surprised by it by now, but Majorkill being the "haha funny cursewords" guy while also giving solid, in-depth astropolitical and military reasoning remains top-tier content.
I guess you can be buff, smart and wiseass at the same time. Too bad most people skip the middle descriptor.
It's actually a sign of honesty when a person is comfortable with swearing and such as it typically is a case of someone just being emotionally expressive without trying to tailor their words. The bad guy stigma associated with swearing is so nonsensical
Also, there's a funny meme regarding attitudes towards swearing in different countries that's appropriate here.
An American, a Brit and an Australian are asked if they ever swear.
The American gasps and says "No! Never!"
The Brit shrugs and says "Meh, sometimes, when I'm surprised or something."
The Australian looks deadly serious and says "It's the law that we swear with every other word."
Less "haha funny cursewords" and more Australian culture.
People who don't curse are almost always untrustworhy c*nts.
Yeah right ? Sometimes when I see the title of his new videos, I’m wondering if it will just be usual swearing and absurd humor, but yet Majorkill is also quite good at relating thoughtful and interesting facts and arguments, making his videos very interesting.
It's the reason why I enjoy his content more compared to other 40k lore TH-camrs
It's like worrying about a mosquito in your house when the whole building is burning down
It doesn't help that the Tau made their own space Marines using ultraMarines armor and their weaponry
Improvise.
Adapt.
Overcum.
@@KomboAndyMasutāhando
"Space marines". They made simplistic simulacrums that were destroyed with ease by real space marines. They later gave up on trying to create space marines since they couldn't get it right.
Yeah, if the Tau made full-on Space Marines, I'm pretty sure the Imperium would come down on them hard. Sure, they could resist, but the Tau could be crippled.
And the Traitor Legions have yet to assail the Tau Empire. If the World Eaters or Iron Warriors gave it a crack, they could do lastkng damage to the Tau pretty easily. Chaos doesn't care for tech or laws of physics, so the Tau would not be prepared for them. They have no psykers, no anti-daemon measures and no reliable Warp drives. If anything, the Tau should be scared of Chaos more than the Imperium. 8/
The armor and weapons were scavaged and the SM were slightly buff humans. They didnt create anything and gw has mentioned tau have little to no ability in bio engineering.
Getting a video about how each pre heresy primarch would have reacted to being in Guillimans position as imperial regent, pretty plz
As an Ultramarines fan/collector, the art used in this video was absolutely amazing, the artist(s) done some incredible work 😁❤️👍🏻
Its interesting to think about the Tau being the next species to take center stage in the galaxy. First it was the Old Ones, then the Eldari, and now humanity is in its slow stagnation and fall after its time in the spotlight. Like, the Tau's optimism and "good" intentions (relative word in the setting, I know) are a bit like how you'd imagine Humanity was at the start of their ascension.
dude that was one of your best videos by far. Well spoken, great delivery, hilarious and informative. Kudos
I imagine it’s some science experiment made by the mechanicum. I mean think about it, every time a human makes ai, it immediately decides it has to kill all life, tau make ai, it’s a cute lil drone that works hard. Mechanicum is probably jealous
Summary: Big enough to be difficult to deal with, small enough to be ignored.
By punch you mean get the .308 and Boom zip sissle some bacon.
The sheer accuracy of that hog/porcupine analogy 😂
New lore from Space Marine book says how Tau actually made a space jump to planetary sector very close to Baal (don't aske me how) and have started to rally up all Imperial worlds around it against the Blood Angels. Imagine the retribution they will suffer for that.
poor blood angels dont stand a chance
It sounds like some angels are about to get obliterated
You're talking about the Startide Nexus, which is a wormhole accidentally created as a result of Tau experimentation with new forms of FTL travel. It's in the Northern Ultima Segmentum, fairly close to Baal, yeah. The Tau have declared it as their "fifth sphere of expansion" and turned the place into a fortress. The Blood Angels already repelled Tau attempts to take a few of their worlds in the Red Scar itself, but it's pretty unlikely for the Tau to receive much co-ordinated large scale retribution though, because the space lies in the eastern portion of the Imperium Nihilus, cut off from Tera, overrun with both chaos and Tyranids, and generally in a total state of perpetual clusterfuck.
To be honest it'd probably be in the Blood Angels best interests to just leave the Tau alone so long as they don't start trouble again, and hope they continue to fend off incoming chaos raids for them, (like they already did with the Death Guard).
the problem has always been that 1 on 1 the imperium lose so they need to totally overwhelm the Tau but that would make them lose more systems (being undefended) than they would gain back from the Tau
shoot depends on the units though right?
That really really depends on the Unit and circumstances I don’t think a fire warrior would win against any normal guardsman in melee and a lot of Regiments a made of excellent marksman/snipers or scouts so they don’t have the edge in that regard and it’s similar with most more ridiculous Units except for titans the tau don’t really have a good counter to the bigger titans likewise the imperium doesn’t have that much of them
Also their slow space travel would severely hinder them in a real war with the imperium it’s hard to react to your enemy if he can defeat your armies before you can reinforce them
So yeah I don’t see your point that 1v1 the tau would win but also the imperium wouldn’t commiting to this becauseit would still cost to much resources
the tau are no problem at all at the moment but in a few thousand years with a bigger empire and better ftl technology (if they manage to get that) they will become a big problem for the imperium but they will never be as dangerous as the nids, necrons or orks (should the Orks get stronger/more intelligent remember the war of the beast that was just one krork leading normal orks)
@@EASY7356 it’s already in the lore that the mechanicus won’t deploy Titans against tau anymore unless they are super protected as they get ruined by the tau. Also they’ve already had forgeworld books showing a good imp vs Tau war and the tau just win until the marines come in or the imp guard deploy so many people or guns they overwhelm the tau positions. The lore version of the Tau plays nothing like the tabletop. The imperium has to force them into fights with either overwhelming numbers from all sides or surgical strikes with marines etc the whole Damocles gulf is a perfect example and the tau are only better now. The imperium pumped loads into and took back a single system. They realised it was costing too much resources and had bigger priorities
@@EASY7356 no offense but hammerheads and tiger sharks annihilate titans, you sound like you get your lore from people's opinions. The agrellan conflict was one of the biggest proofs the empire would need SIGNIFICANTLY more firepower to handle the Tau, worse yet they advance on per battle basis, whereas if the imperium is losing, they dont adapt they just throw more bodies at the situation, when the costs rise too high they get pissy and just wipe out the planet.
Anything new the Tau come up with (Riptides eg) the imperium are just like "oh this new battle suit takes 5 astartes to bring down instead of 3" so just being more meat. its how they do.
@@Dexter_SolidAnyone who thinks otherwise hasnt read much lore.
The Imperium os a literal meat grinder.
Bodies are cheaper than tech, so lets jam their tank tracks with corpses.
To beat pretty much anyone, the Imperium needs to have overwhelming odds in their favor.
Luckily, they uave a near unlimited population lol
I mean the imperium going after the Tau with everything else going on is like storming your well armed neighbors house to attack them because they trimmed the bushes on your side of the property line..while your house is on fire, and being robbed, and has an issue with violent squatters, and no insurance.
[Inquisitor looks at galactic map and sees the Tau empire is surrounded by Tyranids]
“Yeah that will probably just work itself out.”
It's almost like GW doesn't want one of their factions eliminated
Dududuuun
Superb video as always @majorkill.
Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?
The Imperium would likely just use the Tau as a buffer state, directly or not and thats what it seems to be like
Video idea
What would’ve Perturabo do with Imperial city defenses, if he had been put to build it over Dorn.
This falls under: "It's not worth it, I've got other shit to take care of!" - Seriously, yes the Tau are advanced (they are basically just a bit below Age of Technology humanity over all, sure they don't have their own version of STC yet, but they have AI so their drones are basically fancier Men of Iron!), but the Imperium has the advantage in manpower and resources! If the Imperium truly wants it, then the Tau are bugs on a windshield, but if they go bug squashing they'll lose on other fronts that are often more important!
🤣Seeing as technological advancement is heresy, the Tau would definitely clap plenty against the Imperium. Their Space Marines are target practice for Crisis Suits sniping them dead with rail guns and obliterating their forces with enough rockets and missiles to fill the sky.
Not to mention, you attack the Tau, you attack all the races they've made alliances with. And some of those races are just as deadly as Space Marines.
@@Red-Check-Mark I am not saying the Tau don't punch above their weight (especially since their weapons are this advanced and they have robots/drones they can sacrifice easily before they have to throw troops in a melee - it does happen, with enough of a superior force they can't simply stay at range forever!), but the Imperium would win - and lose forces they need on other fronts...so yeah, they will not do it! Hell, the Tau are also among those aliens who can be reasoned with and who sometimes share your goals, so wiping them out is not a pressing need!
@@dreamingflurry2729 The Imperium fan boys really use any excuse to think the Imperium stands any chance.
Their empire is dying. The literal only reason the Imperium is still kicking is because GW needs to keep selling for more money.
In a real war scenario, if all this actually happened, the Imperium would have been overrun with Tyranids long ago. Especially at both Baal and Maccrage or however you spell it. The Tyranids, my faction, were overwhelming both planets, but because any major victory for the Tyranids will make the Humanity shills whine and bitch, stupid plot devices saved both planets.
I would like to see a tau interaction with the lion
That would be interesting to see, especially since the Dark Angels do really good against the Tau
Going by the book War Of Secrets of course, every time the Tau and Dark Angels fought in that book, the Dark Angels dog walked them
That might be a bit much for them....maybe Gulliman would go better.
@@MWH12085 oh yeah Papa G-man would go some much better for them
@@isaiahknickerbocker6207Are you not gonna mention Kais curb stomping multiple dark angel squads at a time by himself? Lol
Also since they are a chapter that are more readily able to use dark age tech, I'd like to see the Tau's POV at difference in tech level.
@@Mr._Idiot440 those weren't Dark Angels, they were Angels of Absolution and successor Chapter, and he got his cheeks clapped pretty good, he didn't even kill them all, they killed themselves and destroyed his suit because his support wasn't paying attention to the skies above their small fortress
He did good against infected Marines, he nearly got himself killed several times after he dealt with the ones corrupted by the Psy-Plague, and would've died in the blast if he wasn't a modified Tau, hell he only did good because he had that suit, without it he would've been killed the moment he got in close to the Terminators
But that actually might be the biggest threat the tau represent. Everyone is too busy to deal with them, But if they keep advancing at the rate they currently are, in about Millenia, They might have already advanced to the point it is too late to just "Wipe them out"
I think the reason why the Imperium doesn’t try to wipe out the Tau is the same reason they haven’t tried to wipe out any other race. They would have to allocate most, if not all of their power to do it, leaving Terra and the rest of the imperium open for another race to invade them.
Allocate all of its power? Size difference of Imperium and Tau is mindboggling. Entire Tau empire is size of realm of Ultramar, one tiny section of Imperium. Democles crusade almost took out Tau (at their smaller size to be honest) and its force was several times smaller than what Imperium used to attack Vrax, a single chaos occupied planet. Imperium wouldnt need 5% of its power to destroy the Tau but at the moment even 1% is too much to spare.
I'd love to read the book where Guilliman encounters the Tau, just to see what his reaction is lol. Honestly I'd love a deeper dive into where Guilliman's head is at in the 41st millennium, period. Yeah he wants to save humanity, but he's seen now that his "father's" goal appears to be to become a powered up Warp God himself, and the Imperium is a backwards shithole of superstition, widespread injustice, squalor and misery. The Imperial Truth was a lie, and the average world in Ultramar is a hundred times better off than the average Imperial world anywhere else.
It makes you wonder exactly what Guilliman believes in any more, beyond obviously wanting to marshal the immense forces of the Imperium to fight enemies that would obliterate humanity period.
PUNCH THAT HOG !!!
Just make sure to wear spiked gauntlet gloves
because hogs have tusks.
Videos 3 Days in a row?!? Man, this weeks work week has been great.
Solid hypothesis Majorkill, well done on this one dude.
God DAMN Major, I haven’t seen a video in a minute cause of medical school, but HOLY SHIT you’re YOKED now. Keep up the good work, bud!!
Asking why the Imperium doesnt destory the Tau Empire is like asking why doesn't the US destroy Iran.
Sure, we could 100% do it, but we'd have to abandon other projects and fights to do it... and that would be disastrous
Destroying Iran? Buddy. You would unite the whole of the Middle East and Russia and China behind destroying the US. And I'm not fighting that.
Before watching the video: because there are bigger problems.
After watching the video: yep.
Basically, the Imperium doesn't catch a break from constant wars on every border, the Tau will take too many resources to destroy, and most importantly they're the only race in 40k for whom peace *IS* an option which the Imperium is forced to pick.
As Weshammer said:
"If the imperium turns their full attention into wiping out the tau, there is no doubt they can. But the issue is they can't."
(I am 100% sure I didn't type exactly what he said cuz I forgot exactly what he said)
The Tau Showing at Dante's backyard are about to learn a hard lesson about the Blood Angels, the Dark Angels, the Lion.
Am I the only one who thinks a large-scale alliance with two of any large faction at this point would be actually interesting? Instead of just “not me=bad”
It would be, but the issue narrative wise is that it'd probably signal the coming end of a franchise if that were to happen and I don't think GW wants to do that anytime soon.
@@Mr._Idiot440 I don’t think you have to end a setting to have an alliance
@@guyperson7487I thinks it’s more that every faction his relatively equal and 2 teaming up would destroy the rest
@@doomfistmain5515 not really tau. And everything in 40K is comically strong and could likely handle whoever because the writers said so
If they ever get to an "end times" era they could sell it like a distant period coexisting game-wise with 40k, kind of like 30k. In that scenario the logical thing to do to ramp up the stakes would be to have the Eldar, Imperium, and Tau team up against the main bulk of the Tyranids, a galaxy-wide Waagh, and of course Chaos. To add some nuance you could have rebellions occur throughout the Imperium as some refuse to ever work with xenos and decry Girlyman as a false son of the emperor (a pretense in some cases for greedy despots to chase their own agendas). Have Abadman launch the final crusade, this time with the full might of the dark mechanicum and all traitor legions behind him. Also, make sure Abman actually chills somebody important so he feels like less of a joke.
Then of course you'd do something with Ynarrgi or whatever they're called, and have the Necron dynasties arise across the galaxy--some fighting each other in madness, others fighting against all others, some for one side or the other. Perhaps the end game could involve some scheme shannigans, a kind of last bid utilizing elements from all the various races--necron tech, tau warp immunity/insensitivity, the webway, etc. Maybe it could involve harnessing the psychic energies of the entire imperium to fuel something? Not sure, but there's cool stuff you could do.
As for the ending...practically speaking there won't be an ending, of course, as there's money to be made and the setting really is just that--a setting, not really a conventional story. First thought would be to have the ending be a partial one that merely ushers in a new status quo--maybe part of the galaxy is merged with the warp, while the remainder is defended by the various factions of the alliance as well as any who survived, all of it rife with intrigue and tensions and splinter factions. That's an interesting enough setting, as there'd be a higher variety of storylines and faction relationships to be explored as opposed to the "me kill you, you kill me" schtick of earlier eras, while still having plenty of warfare. Just my two (read: two million) cents.
Best thumb nail art ever, Awesome work
The Tau Empire will be as big as the imperium... just wait, and welcome the greater good!
I love the great artwork you throw up. So many talented people out there.
The actual question is why don't the necrons just blow up terra?
Woke up early to this video, thanks for making my day get a good start majorkill
"What do you mean they don't have broadside cannons and boarding action airlocks? Well there's no accounting for taste with xenos."
5:36 Commander Shadowsun - the former lover of Captain-General Little Kitten and she can melee good.
It's said that kitten went into a jealous rampage when he learned that Shadowsun got so close and personal to that chapter master
damn majorkill is going crazy with the uploads keep it up bud
It's not worth to hard-winning on one front if that means hard-losing on all others.
Short answer, because the Tau models sell. If the marketplace actually hated the Tau as much as the memes imply. Then Games Workshop would have axed them years ago.
"Don't punch porcupines, punch hogs." I feel like this is a memeworthy quote in a certain context.
A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great
Excellent video Fulgrim. Thank you
Thumbnails are really nice nowadays, thanks.
For this momment if the Imperiam full on attacks the Tau Empire they would leave some of of their worlds vulnerable.
Tau literally thought One of the chapter master was Emperor , imagine how they would react if they saw Custodians or Primarchs them selves
No they didn’t. Stop repeating memes and go and read the books. The actual description was ‘warrior king’ - as in, exactly what chapter masters are for the most part.
The ground hog and porcupine analogy hits perfectly
Simple answer: they aren't enough of a threat and focusing on the Tau would open their flank.
0:32 Naw I was captivated by the army wiping Majorkill Arsenal of waaaagh
You know how there's chess boxing? Majorkill looks like he could be the champ of wh40k boxing