Ram started the small 1500 diesel; everyone said no one would buy it...now Ford and GM are in the game! Ram seems to be the winner when it comes to trucks anymore. I'd like to have this truck big time. Would love to tow a travel trailer on the weekends with that small diesel and then during the week get 30 MPG's going to work.
53k trouble free miles from my ecodiesel so far. It might explode tomorrow though, who knows. I get 25-27 mpg, and have towed 6k @14.5 mpg on several occasions. The possibility of 1,100 miles per tank in the new truck is getting my wallet nervous. Update: I had the AEM performed today. The engine was already warm, so I didn't experience any additional turbo lag/sluggish throttle response. I did have better transmission response, (seeking the highest gear without lagging) and fuel economy on the 70ish mile drive home from the dealership.
I told the guy who sold me my ecodiesel thesame thing...my wife bought a new jeep and he asked if i was ready for another truck yet...told him the 2020 ecodiesel has my eye haha
I will say the Tradesman package is probably the best bang for your buck. No other brand can offer a 4 door/quad cab big engine 4wd max tow for what Ram can.
Pretty amazing the capability of these half ton trucks with the small displacement diesel. My 96 Ram 2500 with the 8.0 V10 is rated for roughly the same towing and payload capacity
Great video showing the initial information. I appreciate your interviewing the Chief Diesel Engineer for Ram to get hands on information about the redesigned 3rd Gen. Ecodiesel. Keep up the good work, Andre.
2 egr's, 2x more likely to break,or 2x more annoying to delete? Also kind of hard to understand what the engineer is saying sometimes, Some subtitles would be nice.
Here is my experience. I have the Hemi in a 2015 1500, I LOVE it. Drives great. Wonderful power. Very smooth ride. Great interior. But I learned the hard way that they all break exhaust manifold studs. I ended having to replace all the studs and install new headers due to this endemic failure. It happened at 60K miles. I talked with RAM "Oh sure, they all do that" "Its because of the aluminum heads and iron block" Huh? Then I learned that the coolant bypass valve failed. "Oh sure, we do those all the time". Now its don't let it idle or you will see the roller cam followers fail. "Sure, been doing it for years". My daddy told me never buy a year one car. All the problems will surface and get fixed for the next model. Maybe this new diesel engine is fixing the problems. But maybe its bringing on a bunch of new problems. I will hang onto my 2015 Hemi truck. I mean, I just paid to get most of the "common" problems fixed!
Same problem here in addition to the AC compressor relay sticking and the oil pressure sensor; thought it was a teething problem in 2014 models. Not so, dealer told me the same with an Italian swag. Love the mpg but will be back to Cummins next time around.
Andre is a chevy guy, he just does a dang good job at not showing bias in reviews. mr. truck could learn a few things from Andre, he is so ford everything.
Because Gen 1 failed regularly at 150k miles or less and check engine lights came on and we're difficult if not impossible to solve are 2 great reasons not to trust these economy diesels.
My best friend saved his butt off for a new truck. He works construction up north. He bought one...told him to be careful! Nothing but problems with this engine. Always in the dealership. Fact he's in there often enough , they won't give him a loaner anymore. Damn good looking trucks...but pass!!!! But talked to a guy a couple if weeks ago at the pump and said he's had no problems whatsoever
Every brand has their problems. talking to 2 different people is not a true indication of vehicle issues. If that were the case, no companies would be able to sell anything...after turning wrenches for 10 years, I'd never own a GM product, but still would buy a RAM even with the few issues I did have. My current Ford PS is not perfect either. It's been in the shop 5 times since March 2018 when I bought it new. sooo, Buy what will work for you and use the hell out of the warranty. Only way companies learn to make their shit better.
@@zeex-14rse57 true words!! I test drove the ram diesel the other day. Damn...its beautiful inside and out! Plenty of power! But I can hear my dad telling me not to do it! Lol. So I have the Chevy 1500 , Ford EcoBoost 6 , and the little diesel Colorado to drive today. Take care
With the price of diesel fuel, the required use of def fluid, and the probability of a premium price for the engine, 1/2 ton diesels just don't really make much sense.
Agreed on all parts. Not to mention with all that added EPA BS has made diesels way more complex and more unreliable. I would have rather seen them abandon the diesel idea and come out with a twin turbo gas motor like the F150.
@@brandonmyers2428 The biggest thing on the ecodiesel is its had a butt load of issues. Even with some motors blowing with less than 20k on them. So it isn't so much the maintenance but the EPA crap has made those motors ticking time bombs.
Sorry, I just don't think diesel engines in half ton trucks make any sense. But I do like the tailgate design. Not so fond of those latches mounted on the bed however. I can see items getting hung up on them when getting dragged out.
@@desvariosdeuncamionero8856 But the added cost of the engine, fuel and maintenance make that offset in better mpg a moot point for a long time. Some gas engines are getting more than 20 mpg and are getting better all the time. Ecodiesel engines don't exactly inspire confidence in durability either. Yes, the Italian engineer with the cool accent said otherwise, but what do you think he is supposed to say? Granted, I'm a Ford F150 kinda guy, but would not consider a Powerstroke in a half ton anytime soon.
@@alecbaye9703 way to jump to ignorant conclusions. It's the head engineer, he's not gonna bring negative info about his new engine in an interview, regardless of him being Italian, or German, or russian, etc. Stop reaching for the offended butthurt schtick.
nookbandit Ha! Yes you are correct but by that point we were surrounded by kids and all their stuff. Couldn’t afford a suburban so we went that route. Say what you will though as far as functionality is concerned it’s hard to beat
@@DadsDomain Agreed. Only your soul and pride are asked for in exchange. lol, jk of course they are so practical they are hard to deny. That's part of the problem I think. All brown clothing is also practical, but....
@@RFJersey how is it embarrassing? He paid for it, he owns it. What others think are of little consequence when it comes to what we come out of pocket for.
I recommend buying a salvaged power wagon and putting a cummins in it. these eco diesels are based around european qualitu diesel fuel, north american diesel fuels are hard on these motors and cause massive failures.
@Jeffrey Hornbaker We are at 87k miles on our 2016 and zero issues even after the emission update, she runs like a champ and gets an average of 25 MPG. My son also has a 2014 Eco with 104K miles and zero issues (2nd owner since 44K) We will be buying another just like 10's of thousands of others will be so I'm sure they will not need to chase your couple of dollars down.
I’ve been waiting to see what this truck was going to bring to the table since I’m in the market for a 1/2 ton diesel. Looks like the Ram is going to be very competitive. With the 3rd generation engine having 80% new parts it won’t make a difference who you go with you will be taking a crapshoot since there really isn’t any track record for any of the 1/2 ton Diesel engines. I wish Ram would have redesigned the Ram Box so it was a side opener. You can’t have a set of racks or a shell and use them. Oh well, it was just going to cost a bunch more $$ if I got it. GMC still wins in the tail gate department with that 6 way tail gate.
Spencer Bane I hadn’t heard about that. Are you saying that the truck can’t accept a receiver hitch or that you can’t attach a ball to the bumper? I’m assuming you are referring to the GMC.
Pussaty No it’s Nationalism if anything. Lol Nationality and race are two different things Before hurling comments like that read the definition of the words you use
Your point is what? Ford's president of North America is from India. Before that he was the President of Engineering in North America for the company. It really makes no difference where people are from. It probably would surprise you that, the best engineers in the world aren't from the United States.
I have seen Tradesmen level trucks on my local dealer lot. That had crew cab, 6'4" bed, and the 31 gallon tank. Find out who does the ordering at your favorite dealer. And give a written wish list. They will; have one, find one, or order one for you.
The barn door tailgate is way more interesting than the diesel IMO. Just like the passthrough storage and seat on the Rivian is the coolest thing on that truck. If manufactures want to separate themselves from the pack they need to look at functional design changes like these. My Dad for instance loves to buy RAm trucks because of its storage options like the RAM box and in floor storage. People poo poo it because it takes away from the bed space but my Dad uses it for camping, fishing and as a daily driver. And these things are awesome for that. My mom loves to use them too for shopping and her hobby supplies so much that she won't let my Dad get a truck without them. Personally I have a friend who has a Ridgeline with the in bed storage box. I like that option so much! It's great for storing all kind of things you don't want to get wet or store in the passenger cabin. If I was comfortable sitting in one and it had the towing and offroading cap I wanted I would think about getting it. When it comes to storage and access Trucks need the equivalent of van stow and go seating IMO. The company that comes up with that is going to sell a shit ton of trucks. I really think it's the thing allot of people don't realize they really want. Because let's face it. Using a Tonneau cover to keep things dry is a pain in the ass. Stuff gets shifted to the front of the box and truck boxes are so tall nowadays that they are impractical for a lot of people unless you are doing construction. I use mine for camping and a wheelchair and I honestly miss the box in my old 2001 F150 cause it was accessible without the need for hooky steps. I'm 6'6" and even I have a difficult time getting things out of my 2014 Sierra's box sometimes. It's too bad that a lot of people don't see the Ridgeline as a viable option in a truck because of its limitations. I bet for a lot of people its all they really need cause the worst road they are going to take it on is a grid road. Its only issue is that its not very "off road worthy" so a lot of people don't look at it even though they don't off road their trucks.
This truck has some neat features like the innovative console storage, the Rambox with the switched 120v outlet, and that cool tailgate. Unfortunately the Ecodiesel seems rather lackluster without any pricing or mpg specs, and the hemi still sounds better!
I like manual transmissions myself. But conventional turbochargers like the exhust flow profile that an automatic delivers. It does seem that the VGT turbos should be able to work well with a manual. Belt driven superchargers work fine with a manual. I own a 2016 ecodiesel with 132k miles. Mostly highway. But some offroad adventuring. I would like to see a 4 to 1 transfer case low range, stick or auto. I have the 3.92 axle ratio.
Towing capacity should not be dictated by how much power the truck has. It should be determined by stability, weight, braking and handling capacity of the truck. A light weight 1/2 Ton truck is not stable on the highway pulling 12,000 lbs!
I have a ram 1500 eco diesel 2018 and I pulled a 31 travel trailer plus tongue and it weighed about 8500 pounds plus cargo and cargo in the back of the truck it did damn well going over the mountains and just in general driving 60-70mph
Unfortunately there will be plenty of "Non-Tow Peeps" out there pulling 12K lbs with that and doing 70mph! Trailer swaying form one lane to the other...
James Wilson I’ve pulled the same trailer with a ram 2500 the only things I noticed was accelerating was quicker but that was with a 6.7 Cummins and it had exhaust breaks going. Down hill. But I would say if we got much bigger then that the 1/2 would have an issue.
Man, FCA keeps tempting me, a possible 797hp large 4-door, a 707hp manual coupe, a 707hp SUV, a 475hp small 3-row SUV, a diesel 1/2 ton off road pickup, an insane HD pickup interior. Please stop! If they were more reliable, I probably couldn't help myself but have a couple...
@@jimbeam7248 Yeah, I have an 06' Ram and a 99' Durango. They have both been pretty good, but compared to my 05' Camry & 08' Sienna, they just don't come close. I am too busy and in the middle of nowhere. Even 1 issue a year is too much for me to take care of. Both Mopars have about that, 1 per year, but the Toyota's in their whole life have never been in for work.
Fiat/Chrysler holds the title on how many recalls a automotive can have theres recalls all across there platform Jeep ram Chrysler dodge fiat someone should give them a trophy
On the other side of the coin i rather have recall fix for free. I like my Explorer, but the always failing PTU is sealed and no way to maintain from factory, left for consumer to deal with it
It’s sad. I was getting one in the mail every few weeks for a while. I just started stacking them up in hopes they would stop coming and I could just get them all done in one shot.
Can't believe you guys were in gilbert!! Saw everything getting setup when I was at the park on Sunday. Wish I could've stayed up and met you guys. Hope they have more demos there in the future
I hope this engine doesn't carry over the infamous bosh injection pump that will blow up and leave you on the side of the road and with a $6k bill to replace it, the fuel lines and injectors! My mid size Chevy Colorado ZR2 has a higher payload rating than the RAM. Wait, I only see only 4 head bolts per cylinder on that aluminum head! With 18:1 compression, and 20 lbs of turbo boost......can you say head gasket issues down the road especially at max towing??? Be careful when you test this truck on the Ike!
Those laches for the tailgate stick up to high and will be in the way and get smashed. Plus still no step to step up into bed. Also do the tailgates open more then the 90 degrees.
I'll stick with my 2018 Cummins 2500HD. I always feel if you can haul 2k+ in the bed than its not a truck. If the best you can do is 500-1000lbs , people are likely to still put those higher weight amounts in the back and either cause an accident or damage it. While something that small might work for people that are primarily city dwellers. If your using it as part of a fleet, or are taking advantage of the cargo on a daily basis, I don't feel like these cut it.
The Eco diesel is notorious as a piece of junk. I work with three guys who bought them. All three had premature engine failure. Why anyone would buy a Fiat Chrysler product is beyond me. You are asking for trouble. The Italians are known for great food, crappy vehicles. Fiat owning Chrysler is one of the worst things to happen to them. Too bad, because if they had to be sold to a foreign company, Toyota would've been ideal. But then again, Toyota is smarter than that I guess. I would avoid that thing like the Ebola virus and pony up the cash for a Cummins if I could afford it.
And now someone will chime in, "I owned one and put 200k miles on it with no problems, you don't know what you are talking about!" Maybe you did, the problem is, for every one person with that story, there are 15 Ford truck owners with the same story, 8 Chevy truck owners with the same story, and 25 Toyota truck owners with the same story, the problem is consistent quality and short-sighted short term profit-building corner-cutting has long been a problem with the big three. They just don't get it.
My truck has a 1k ib payload, I'm easily passing that with just my Dad and me thanks to tools, frankly I wouldn't use the payload as a "how much stuff I can haul", but rather"how much tounge weight it can handle" simply due to the fact that my suspension, even with full payload, doesn't even drop an inch, vs having 1k on the tounge drops it a noticeable amount, as one of the guys said however, I bet that payload is underrated.
meramosjr nawww....GM will beat them again in 2020. Top seven unreliable trucks for 2019 out of the seven they were four GM trucks one Nissan one Toyota and one RAM.
Getting a V6 in a 3/4-ton is the dumbest concept I've heard let alone a tiny 3 liter that's geared for economy whilst the 6.4 and 6.7 units are geared for getting the job done.
In the market but...how long will the Chrysler-Fiat arrangement last? This is a new, untested engine? What’s likelihood of parts availability down the road? I’ll stick with the V8 for now.
I literally just build this exact same Rebel truck on Rams website 2 days ago except I had the 12in screen and the sunroof. Looks even better on video. Now only if I could afford it lol
In China, there is a place that is very suitable for 4WD Rock-climbing. It is called Hooke Trail. We shoot some videos of Jeep Wrangler and King of Hammer. Off-road enthusiasts are welcome to experience the Hooke Trail ! There must be different gains!
well, considering that Nissan may be dropping the Cummins, maaaaaybe it'll get put in the RAM??? it's where I wish it was...Not that I would buy it though. Kinda need a truck that can pull 20k+ safely and legally.
Because if people didn't buy rams for just the cummins, ram probably wouldn't have the cummins engine they got. Don't believe me? Look at nissan dropping cummins this year.
Offset piston pin is how they can get 480 lb ft out of a 3l v6 without blowing the pistons apart. When the piston is at top dead center the rod end is already past top dead center. So all the pressure from combustion pushes the piston down vs fighting the piston as it tries to reach tdc. Changes combustion phasing to get better mpg and less emissions. Less noise is because there is less peak cylinder pressure. They didnt make custom pistons for noise control lmao! Noise reduction is a side benefit. #marketing
Definitely an interesting concept to think through. If the benefit of offsetting the rod proves to be significant, you may see other manufactures do the same. The downside I see is greater chance of scoring the cylinder walls over time with the piston skirt due to the offset. Sure the piston is balanced accordingly, but so are all the pistons with centered connecting rod and you see it happen over time anyway.
@@baronvolkov6172 News flash its not a concept. Ofset piston pins have been around for 70yrs. It actually reduces side loading on the piston not increase it as u suggest. Thats why its called engineering and not u tube dipshits designs.
I actually like my '14 Ecodiesel a lot. Except for the CEL every few months and the resultant "software update" that "fixed" each CEL, and the ever declining mpg, and the fact that it got 5 years old and out of warranty. Can we expect better with the new version?
Mike Lemont Thats one of the first things they were mentioning is that it’s a redesigned engine. Heard the fix for the previous engine was not received well. Hoping this one is better.
James Wilson my 2014 has been great pal. Only issue is DPF will get clogged if you shut the truck off during regen, or if you fill the def tank all the way and the DEF expires and crystallizes. All diesels have to be built pretty strong because of how they run.
V8 gas 5.7 way better and more reliable. No reason for eco diesel. I don’t drive American truck with foreign engine plugged with emissions. This is an Italian engine
@@Flydevice1 - just curious why people are afraid of timing belts? I've had vehicles with timing belts, you just change them at the scheduled mileage. No big deal.
@@craigquann Yes Mack did or maybe still does make them, but the few guys that I know who had them, did not like them. Even the gasoline in lines were great. They don't die and they put out allot of torque and great fuel economy and they are easier to work on!
@@spyke123able No, it doesn't. I am from Germany. We have a lot more Diesel engines over here for normal cars. The most powerful over here is the V8 Audi Diesel with 435 hp and over 900 NM of torque. There is nothing comparable in the US.
I saw an axle lock button near the transmission dial, but you didn't talk about it. Is there a selectable rear locker on the new 2020 Ram Rebel 1500 Eco Diesel?
The EGR system and horrible lubrication is the main thing that caused issues with the older versions of this engine. Didnt hear him say anything about improving the oil pathways, and capacity. If they didnt change this.......it will be trash. Also the cranks splitting on the older version was a major problem. (I do believe that was remedied however) I wouldnt buy one. I sure wouldnt keep it out of warranty.
What about burning bio-diesel fuel that's sold in the Midwest. Also you guys should ask Mercedes Benz why their 3.0L diesel engine in the sprinter van is the weakest diesel engine.
@@Josh47147 yeah I know that but now with Ford coming out with a truck to try to go head to head with the power wagon. They are going to have to go back and find a way to put that fucka in it.
I'll be waiting for the video with the Chevy, Ford, and Ram half ton diesels. . I'm still not sold on this engine. Guys that had them over 100,000 miles started having major issues with them. Hopefully the 80% redesign addressed a lot of those issues.
Ram started the small 1500 diesel; everyone said no one would buy it...now Ford and GM are in the game! Ram seems to be the winner when it comes to trucks anymore. I'd like to have this truck big time. Would love to tow a travel trailer on the weekends with that small diesel and then during the week get 30 MPG's going to work.
53k trouble free miles from my ecodiesel so far. It might explode tomorrow though, who knows. I get 25-27 mpg, and have towed 6k @14.5 mpg on several occasions. The possibility of 1,100 miles per tank in the new truck is getting my wallet nervous.
Update: I had the AEM performed today. The engine was already warm, so I didn't experience any additional turbo lag/sluggish throttle response. I did have better transmission response, (seeking the highest gear without lagging) and fuel economy on the 70ish mile drive home from the dealership.
I told the guy who sold me my ecodiesel thesame thing...my wife bought a new jeep and he asked if i was ready for another truck yet...told him the 2020 ecodiesel has my eye haha
My 2017 F150 has a 36 gallon tank. It gets pretty spendy to fill up.
My first gen Raptor has a 36gal, and it gets about 13mpg talk about spendy. Haha
I have a 17 Eco on 37s and get better mileage on the streets than most Hemis on the freeway. Love my baby diesel
@@TheHitSquadOffroad I have a 5.0I V8. I get 19.9 on the highway. It's not terrible but it's not great.
I like the look of this EcoRebel.
I will say the Tradesman package is probably the best bang for your buck. No other brand can offer a 4 door/quad cab big engine 4wd max tow for what Ram can.
Leland Holton how much does it run?
Cool that RAM is putting more engine choices for the consumer. I have no need for a 1/2 ton diesel, much less a 1/2 ton. Still cool regardless.
It’s funny to see that RAM chief engineer is Italian.
Fiat owns them, so makes perfect sense 👍
And the eco diesel was developed/sold in Europe before coming to the states.
No he is from VM and was Chief Engineer on the Eco Diesel for Ram
so what? why does it matter? you must be American
He's not the Ram Chief Engineer..... just chief engineer of the Eco diesel!
It was an observation. You are over reacting.
You’ll have to get Roman to splash the cash and trade you’re gas version for a diesel long term
Trade you are gas version?????
@@scarhart53 TFL own a 5.7 hemi v8 "gas" rebel as a long term vehicle.
Pretty amazing the capability of these half ton trucks with the small displacement diesel. My 96 Ram 2500 with the 8.0 V10 is rated for roughly the same towing and payload capacity
8spd trans...
@@crazyhass84 exactly, even the difference from 4 speed to 6 made v6 half tons so much better
Still though, got that sweet V10
Great video showing the initial information. I appreciate your interviewing the Chief Diesel Engineer for Ram to get hands on information about the redesigned 3rd Gen. Ecodiesel. Keep up the good work, Andre.
I have my doubts about this engine BUT.....I like the fact the offer the bigger 36gal tank. Only time will tell on the reliability of this engine.
simjet22 33gal
Once it hits the dealer lots I’m sure we’ll find out fairly fast whether it is reliable or not like the last one
As far as I know, they’re fiat diesels so who knows if it’ll last more than 30k miles🤷🏻♂️
2 egr's, 2x more likely to break,or 2x more annoying to delete? Also kind of hard to understand what the engineer is saying sometimes,
Some subtitles would be nice.
Damn Italians.
James panda Let me try: “Ats-a Lott-a exhaust-a ...And now-a we gotta more-a reliability-a”
Here is my experience. I have the Hemi in a 2015 1500, I LOVE it. Drives great. Wonderful power. Very smooth ride. Great interior. But I learned the hard way that they all break exhaust manifold studs. I ended having to replace all the studs and install new headers due to this endemic failure. It happened at 60K miles. I talked with RAM "Oh sure, they all do that" "Its because of the aluminum heads and iron block" Huh? Then I learned that the coolant bypass valve failed. "Oh sure, we do those all the time". Now its don't let it idle or you will see the roller cam followers fail. "Sure, been doing it for years". My daddy told me never buy a year one car. All the problems will surface and get fixed for the next model. Maybe this new diesel engine is fixing the problems. But maybe its bringing on a bunch of new problems. I will hang onto my 2015 Hemi truck. I mean, I just paid to get most of the "common" problems fixed!
Same problem here in addition to the AC compressor relay sticking and the oil pressure sensor; thought it was a teething problem in 2014 models. Not so, dealer told me the same with an Italian swag. Love the mpg but will be back to Cummins next time around.
I think you found your new truck Andre. The new Ram Rebel eco- diesel. Thanks for sharing the details of the this truck Andre.
Andre is a chevy guy, he just does a dang good job at not showing bias in reviews. mr. truck could learn a few things from Andre, he is so ford everything.
James Penner Kent is the most pretentious person in all of TFL😂
@@jamespenner1412 👍🏻
@@UNREAL8745 maybe some of us have had bad luck with everything else but Ford. Maybe if you'd get your head out of your ass you'd know that.
Robert Richardson Maybe if you’d understand what “TFL, Home of Non-Biased Reviews” meant, you’d realize how far your head is up your own ass
God, I love this channel.
Keep up the good work fellas!
Cheers from Sweden
As much as I wanna love the new eco diesel, its so hard to trust FCA diesels.
FCA anything.
I would rather have Chevys straight 6 diesel in the 1500... except gms 2500 is giving them problems with the stupid emissions crap
Because Gen 1 failed regularly at 150k miles or less and check engine lights came on and we're difficult if not impossible to solve are 2 great reasons not to trust these economy diesels.
Looks great! I bet it’s going to be class leading in recalls as well 😒
All trucks have recalls so don't go there
Darius Hope as many as ram? Absolutely not lol you wanna go there?
Had a chevy that was in the shop for recalls more often than my own driveway.. my ram has had 3 recalls
Slingsomelead 🤣🤣 Ford is king of recalls!
John Doe that’s facts
My best friend saved his butt off for a new truck. He works construction up north. He bought one...told him to be careful! Nothing but problems with this engine. Always in the dealership. Fact he's in there often enough , they won't give him a loaner anymore. Damn good looking trucks...but pass!!!!
But talked to a guy a couple if weeks ago at the pump and said he's had no problems whatsoever
Here's another thing! I'm shopping for a new diesel at the moment... 🙄
Every brand has their problems. talking to 2 different people is not a true indication of vehicle issues. If that were the case, no companies would be able to sell anything...after turning wrenches for 10 years, I'd never own a GM product, but still would buy a RAM even with the few issues I did have. My current Ford PS is not perfect either. It's been in the shop 5 times since March 2018 when I bought it new. sooo, Buy what will work for you and use the hell out of the warranty. Only way companies learn to make their shit better.
@@zeex-14rse57 true words!! I test drove the ram diesel the other day. Damn...its beautiful inside and out! Plenty of power! But I can hear my dad telling me not to do it! Lol.
So I have the Chevy 1500 , Ford EcoBoost 6 , and the little diesel Colorado to drive today. Take care
Next is upgrades for whatever I get!! Tuners e.g
I own a 2017 Eco-Diesel and I owned a 2014 Eco-Diesel as well. I cannot wait to get this new version.
With the price of diesel fuel, the required use of def fluid, and the probability of a premium price for the engine, 1/2 ton diesels just don't really make much sense.
Agreed on all parts. Not to mention with all that added EPA BS has made diesels way more complex and more unreliable. I would have rather seen them abandon the diesel idea and come out with a twin turbo gas motor like the F150.
@@sukemecuke That's an interesting idea, imagine a turbocharged hemi, that's more interesting than a diesel and probably a lot cheaper to develop.
Diesel in Iowa has been 10 cents or less than regular gas in Iowa for a few years, combine that with def and higher maintenance and you about even out
@@brandonmyers2428 yeah if you can afford a 60k truck putting in premium fuel shouldn't be of much concern.
@@brandonmyers2428 The biggest thing on the ecodiesel is its had a butt load of issues. Even with some motors blowing with less than 20k on them. So it isn't so much the maintenance but the EPA crap has made those motors ticking time bombs.
That towing mirror trick was the coolest thing I’ve seen
I dont think tfl knows what water logged means
Rick James cause they’re going to waterlog a 2020 Rebel...
Everyone: waterlogged = stalled while under water.
TFL: waterlogged: Drive 'er through that puddle boys!
When do we get first towing impressions?
First thing I noticed is that new tailgate. Haven't seen it action yet.
Jared Kurtti we got em at our dealership. They’re pretty cool
Sorry, I just don't think diesel engines in half ton trucks make any sense. But I do like the tailgate design. Not so fond of those latches mounted on the bed however. I can see items getting hung up on them when getting dragged out.
It's all about mpg, GM's can make up to , I think, 33 mpg hwy, plus almost same towing capacity ,that's neat, at least for me
@@desvariosdeuncamionero8856 But the added cost of the engine, fuel and maintenance make that offset in better mpg a moot point for a long time.
Some gas engines are getting more than 20 mpg and are getting better all the time.
Ecodiesel engines don't exactly inspire confidence in durability either. Yes, the Italian engineer with the cool accent said otherwise, but what do you think he is supposed to say?
Granted, I'm a Ford F150 kinda guy, but would not consider a Powerstroke in a half ton anytime soon.
@@billymc2681 People on the Ram forums have been asking for a baby diesel for a long time. Now, whether or not they buy it is the question.
billy mc damn just cause he’s Italian you don’t trust him? Racist much?
@@alecbaye9703 way to jump to ignorant conclusions. It's the head engineer, he's not gonna bring negative info about his new engine in an interview, regardless of him being Italian, or German, or russian, etc. Stop reaching for the offended butthurt schtick.
That feeling when you realize it has basically the same payload as my sienna
Dads Domain I would have thought the sinking feeling came when you bought a minivan
nookbandit Ha! Yes you are correct but by that point we were surrounded by kids and all their stuff. Couldn’t afford a suburban so we went that route. Say what you will though as far as functionality is concerned it’s hard to beat
@@DadsDomain Agreed. Only your soul and pride are asked for in exchange. lol, jk of course they are so practical they are hard to deny. That's part of the problem I think. All brown clothing is also practical, but....
Dads Domain What an embarrassment to drive a minivan.
@@RFJersey how is it embarrassing? He paid for it, he owns it. What others think are of little consequence when it comes to what we come out of pocket for.
I been drooling over the power wagon. But this kind of caught my eye
Same
I recommend buying a salvaged power wagon and putting a cummins in it. these eco diesels are based around european qualitu diesel fuel, north american diesel fuels are hard on these motors and cause massive failures.
I still got a 3/4-ton Power Wagon, I don't really care about the diesel.
Had a 2016, never again. Still a VM sourced engine. Show me a 10yr/100k unlimited bumper to bumper warranty, and we'll see
Jeffrey Hornbaker I heard those engines were a nightmare.
Pitty you had problems 120k on my 2015 and still love it
@Jeffrey Hornbaker
We are at 87k miles on our 2016 and zero issues even after the emission update, she runs like a champ and gets an average of 25 MPG. My son also has a 2014 Eco with 104K miles and zero issues (2nd owner since 44K) We will be buying another just like 10's of thousands of others will be so I'm sure they will not need to chase your couple of dollars down.
rsg1963 I find it hard to believe you haven’t had any issues.
I’ve been waiting to see what this truck was going to bring to the table since I’m in the market for a 1/2 ton diesel. Looks like the Ram is going to be very competitive. With the 3rd generation engine having 80% new parts it won’t make a difference who you go with you will be taking a crapshoot since there really isn’t any track record for any of the 1/2 ton Diesel engines.
I wish Ram would have redesigned the Ram Box so it was a side opener. You can’t have a set of racks or a shell and use them. Oh well, it was just going to cost a bunch more $$ if I got it. GMC still wins in the tail gate department with that 6 way tail gate.
Except the tailgate doesn't work with any type of tow hitch.. woops.
Spencer Bane I hadn’t heard about that. Are you saying that the truck can’t accept a receiver hitch or that you can’t attach a ball to the bumper? I’m assuming you are referring to the GMC.
@@secondamendment8773 th-cam.com/video/WbB2lj_2-CI/w-d-xo.html
Spencer Bane That’s funny. I did a search and didn’t find anything about it. Thanks for the link. That sure makes that a lot less useful.
When do you think you will do a side by side comparison of Chevy, Chrysler and Ford Diesels
Was really hoping the 2020 Rebel would not have the red accents in the interior. I know a lot of folks like it, but not my cup of tea.
Then keep your ass out of one
Have driven Ecodiesel and the 3.1 before that, great motors, this one is the best I've seen so far and those RAM beds are brilliant.
8:23 - I'm so glad you called them "HVAC controls." A real tradesman!
The show is great. If you guys ever decide to do a TFL Motorcycle, I would be more than happy to test bikes for you.
You guys should do a video on just the changes for the 3rd Gen EcoDiesel. Question: How does the new engine cool the EGRs?
Coolant
Oh! Shit! I’ve got a bad feeling
2 foreigners talking, foreign designed, American trucks
We’re in trouble with this one aren’t we. Lol
Typical American Racism right here....
Pussaty No it’s Nationalism if anything. Lol
Nationality and race are two different things
Before hurling comments like that read the definition of the words you use
Your point is what? Ford's president of North America is from India. Before that he was the President of Engineering in North America for the company. It really makes no difference where people are from. It probably would surprise you that, the best engineers in the world aren't from the United States.
J MAR There is no point
It’s a joke
You know?Ha Ha?
@@SantanKGhey1234 Typical triggerdism right there
If the tradesman come in full crew cab and 4X4 with the bigger tank
I am sold
I don't need all the extra fancy stuff
dont think you can get the bigger tank, requires a upgraded cab bell and wistle package on the current gas engine models at least
I have seen Tradesmen level trucks on my local dealer lot. That had crew cab, 6'4" bed, and the 31 gallon tank. Find out who does the ordering at your favorite dealer. And give a written wish list. They will; have one, find one, or order one for you.
Funny how most manufactures are going to big grilles but ram went the other way. :)
It doesn't even sound bad at all
Sounds good
The barn door tailgate is way more interesting than the diesel IMO. Just like the passthrough storage and seat on the Rivian is the coolest thing on that truck. If manufactures want to separate themselves from the pack they need to look at functional design changes like these. My Dad for instance loves to buy RAm trucks because of its storage options like the RAM box and in floor storage. People poo poo it because it takes away from the bed space but my Dad uses it for camping, fishing and as a daily driver. And these things are awesome for that. My mom loves to use them too for shopping and her hobby supplies so much that she won't let my Dad get a truck without them.
Personally I have a friend who has a Ridgeline with the in bed storage box. I like that option so much! It's great for storing all kind of things you don't want to get wet or store in the passenger cabin. If I was comfortable sitting in one and it had the towing and offroading cap I wanted I would think about getting it.
When it comes to storage and access Trucks need the equivalent of van stow and go seating IMO. The company that comes up with that is going to sell a shit ton of trucks. I really think it's the thing allot of people don't realize they really want. Because let's face it. Using a Tonneau cover to keep things dry is a pain in the ass. Stuff gets shifted to the front of the box and truck boxes are so tall nowadays that they are impractical for a lot of people unless you are doing construction. I use mine for camping and a wheelchair and I honestly miss the box in my old 2001 F150 cause it was accessible without the need for hooky steps. I'm 6'6" and even I have a difficult time getting things out of my 2014 Sierra's box sometimes.
It's too bad that a lot of people don't see the Ridgeline as a viable option in a truck because of its limitations. I bet for a lot of people its all they really need cause the worst road they are going to take it on is a grid road. Its only issue is that its not very "off road worthy" so a lot of people don't look at it even though they don't off road their trucks.
Chief engineer that still uses a flip phone, I don't trust this fancy talking guy lol
I like the ecodiesel and it is a pretty reliable engine from my experience. The only issue is the DPF gets clogged if you aren’t careful.
Just fill the DEF tank at half a tank. Runs fine that way.
This truck has some neat features like the innovative console storage, the Rambox with the switched 120v outlet, and that cool tailgate. Unfortunately the Ecodiesel seems rather lackluster without any pricing or mpg specs, and the hemi still sounds better!
did they rework the cams so they don't become divorced from the timing gears?
That is the big question that seems to be avoided.
No. Still a pressed on interference fit
@@claytondennis8034 boo
The eco diesel with a manual would sell well. They should try again with it.
I like manual transmissions myself. But conventional turbochargers like the exhust flow profile that an automatic delivers. It does seem that the VGT turbos should be able to work well with a manual. Belt driven superchargers work fine with a manual.
I own a 2016 ecodiesel with 132k miles. Mostly highway. But some offroad adventuring. I would like to see a 4 to 1 transfer case low range, stick or auto. I have the 3.92 axle ratio.
Towing capacity should not be dictated by how much power the truck has. It should be determined by stability, weight, braking and handling capacity of the truck. A light weight 1/2 Ton truck is not stable on the highway pulling 12,000 lbs!
nope, but the numbers sell it!
I have a ram 1500 eco diesel 2018 and I pulled a 31 travel trailer plus tongue and it weighed about 8500 pounds plus cargo and cargo in the back of the truck it did damn well going over the mountains and just in general driving 60-70mph
@Tripple Threat and then you woke up..
Unfortunately there will be plenty of "Non-Tow Peeps" out there pulling 12K lbs with that and doing 70mph! Trailer swaying form one lane to the other...
James Wilson I’ve pulled the same trailer with a ram 2500 the only things I noticed was accelerating was quicker but that was with a 6.7 Cummins and it had exhaust breaks going. Down hill. But I would say if we got much bigger then that the 1/2 would have an issue.
Man, FCA keeps tempting me, a possible 797hp large 4-door, a 707hp manual coupe, a 707hp SUV, a 475hp small 3-row SUV, a diesel 1/2 ton off road pickup, an insane HD pickup interior. Please stop! If they were more reliable, I probably couldn't help myself but have a couple...
They are reliable
@@jimbeam7248 Yeah, I have an 06' Ram and a 99' Durango. They have both been pretty good, but compared to my 05' Camry & 08' Sienna, they just don't come close. I am too busy and in the middle of nowhere. Even 1 issue a year is too much for me to take care of. Both Mopars have about that, 1 per year, but the Toyota's in their whole life have never been in for work.
Fiat/Chrysler holds the title on how many recalls a automotive can have theres recalls all across there platform Jeep ram Chrysler dodge fiat someone should give them a trophy
On the other side of the coin i rather have recall fix for free. I like my Explorer, but the always failing PTU is sealed and no way to maintain from factory, left for consumer to deal with it
Ford just denies it exists
Better to have a recall than sweep issues under the rug until there are lawsuits like ford and gm....
It’s sad. I was getting one in the mail every few weeks for a while. I just started stacking them up in hopes they would stop coming and I could just get them all done in one shot.
Can't believe you guys were in gilbert!! Saw everything getting setup when I was at the park on Sunday. Wish I could've stayed up and met you guys. Hope they have more demos there in the future
Since Nissan is going to stop using the 5.0 Cummings, FCA should get the rights to use it and put it in the Ram, Wrangler, and Gladiators.
The 5.0 isn’t good enough on fuel. Eco diesels are primarily for fuel mileage. I would certainly trust Cummins reliability more though!
I hope this engine doesn't carry over the infamous bosh injection pump that will blow up and leave you on the side of the road and with a $6k bill to replace it, the fuel lines and injectors! My mid size Chevy Colorado ZR2 has a higher payload rating than the RAM. Wait, I only see only 4 head bolts per cylinder on that aluminum head! With 18:1 compression, and 20 lbs of turbo boost......can you say head gasket issues down the road especially at max towing??? Be careful when you test this truck on the Ike!
A Colorado with over 2k pounds of payload? Well there is a first for everything.
Go to the 7:07 mark. The ram has 1,200 payload capacity. Same as the Colorado zR2
2:05 That sneeze in the background tho😂
Taylon Fitch lol that's hilarious God bless them an who ever else was around them😂😂😂
Seasonal allergies ;-)
I hope he wasn’t performing s precision calibration of the crash restraint system when he sneezed.
Are these Eco-diesels going to grenade at 5k miles again?
I was lucky to make it almost 100,000 before mine went belly-up.
I drive a 5.7 for a reason. Unless you drive 50k miles a year, you will never break even with the diesel. Plus, I couldn't live without that V8 sound
Agree.
Quick ram call cummins and tell them you're sorry and you were wrong. Beg them to let you use the 5.0 v8!!
Trucks Cars And Campers ,ask Nissan how they are doing with the cummins 5.0
Jorge Garcia that's why I said ram should get it now. The Nissan was an odd setup for most and people are use to ram with cummins.
5.0 would not make the mileage numbers,
Cole Kreger no but it would have the reliability. Or they could beg for the 2.8 4cyl cummins
Those laches for the tailgate stick up to high and will be in the way and get smashed. Plus still no step to step up into bed. Also do the tailgates open more then the 90 degrees.
I'll stick with my 2018 Cummins 2500HD. I always feel if you can haul 2k+ in the bed than its not a truck. If the best you can do is 500-1000lbs , people are likely to still put those higher weight amounts in the back and either cause an accident or damage it.
While something that small might work for people that are primarily city dwellers. If your using it as part of a fleet, or are taking advantage of the cargo on a daily basis, I don't feel like these cut it.
The Eco diesel is notorious as a piece of junk. I work with three guys who bought them. All three had premature engine failure. Why anyone would buy a Fiat Chrysler product is beyond me. You are asking for trouble. The Italians are known for great food, crappy vehicles. Fiat owning Chrysler is one of the worst things to happen to them. Too bad, because if they had to be sold to a foreign company, Toyota would've been ideal. But then again, Toyota is smarter than that I guess. I would avoid that thing like the Ebola virus and pony up the cash for a Cummins if I could afford it.
And now someone will chime in, "I owned one and put 200k miles on it with no problems, you don't know what you are talking about!" Maybe you did, the problem is, for every one person with that story, there are 15 Ford truck owners with the same story, 8 Chevy truck owners with the same story, and 25 Toyota truck owners with the same story, the problem is consistent quality and short-sighted short term profit-building corner-cutting has long been a problem with the big three. They just don't get it.
I like the rebel ecodiesel with the rambox, but the 1198 lb payload is a deal breaker for me.
That is 5 grown men that are 200 lbs each and some luggage.... lower than chevy tahoe
My traverse is just under 1700 payload
It’s rated for that much only because the truck has some weight on it, but I would trust it to handle just as much as the ford or chevy.
My truck has a 1k ib payload, I'm easily passing that with just my Dad and me thanks to tools, frankly I wouldn't use the payload as a "how much stuff I can haul", but rather"how much tounge weight it can handle" simply due to the fact that my suspension, even with full payload, doesn't even drop an inch, vs having 1k on the tounge drops it a noticeable amount, as one of the guys said however, I bet that payload is underrated.
Ram: 2020’s winner of most recalls award.
meramosjr nawww....GM will beat them again in 2020. Top seven unreliable trucks for 2019 out of the seven they were four GM trucks one Nissan one Toyota and one RAM.
IF Chris Cuomo watched this channel we could call it the Fredo Diesel and look for two pages of profane rants. .😁
Chris Cuomo truly is Fredo, he proved it! He is the Eco diesel of humans.
@@kman-mi7su 😂🤣😂
FREDO 2020!!!!!!!!!
@@kman-mi7su I laughed having no idea what this means!
Put this Diesel in the Power Wagon. I would prefer the 6.7 Cummins of the 5.0 liter Cummins. Will take any diesel in the Power wagon.
How are you saying this? The 6.4 HEMI does just fine.
Paulo Abesamis - Torque over HP for off-roading plus better gas mileage would make a lot of Power Wagon owners happy.
@@Eternal-274 funny I don't see this on forums other than here.
@@Eternal-274 but the diesels are so danm heavy, and the intercooler would have to go where the winch already is, so it ain't happening.
Getting a V6 in a 3/4-ton is the dumbest concept I've heard let alone a tiny 3 liter that's geared for economy whilst the 6.4 and 6.7 units are geared for getting the job done.
In the market but...how long will the Chrysler-Fiat arrangement last? This is a new, untested engine? What’s likelihood of parts availability down the road? I’ll stick with the V8 for now.
Nope, this basic engine architecture has been around longer than you think.
What is the computer saying for mileage per gallon??
Error, error, error, fatal error!!!🤣🤣🤣
Victor Rafa It don’t say anything, you gotta read it. (An old three stooges line) haha
So, is this the engine they are planning to stuff into the Gladiator?
Yasss! Gimmie gimmie gimmie!!!
Magilla480 Why? I have heard that the engine is an unreliable mess. Has anything changed?
@@RFJersey you've heard about an engine that hasn't even been released yet, huh? Must be nice knowing this mystical future we live in. 🙄
Deleted and tuned that truck will be nice.
Tailgate is cool, but not if it requires the RAMBox. Hopefully it'll come on a regular bed as well.
Rambox is not necessary. The tailgate is $995 as a standalone option.
I literally just build this exact same Rebel truck on Rams website 2 days ago except I had the 12in screen and the sunroof. Looks even better on video. Now only if I could afford it lol
Does the larger fuel tank affect the payload capacity? I imagine it would, right? So is the 1200 lb with the larger or smaller fuel tank?
In China, there is a place that is very suitable for 4WD Rock-climbing. It is called Hooke Trail. We shoot some videos of Jeep Wrangler and King of Hammer. Off-road enthusiasts are welcome to experience the Hooke Trail ! There must be different gains!
If Powerstroke can have a smaller Diesel engine, and Duramax can have a smaller diesel engine, why can’t Cummins? WTH Ram?
You mean like the Nissan Titan XD? Be careful what you wish for. Not all Cummins engines are created equal.
well, considering that Nissan may be dropping the Cummins, maaaaaybe it'll get put in the RAM??? it's where I wish it was...Not that I would buy it though. Kinda need a truck that can pull 20k+ safely and legally.
Cummins had the 4bt
They do! It's the R2.8, duhhhh! 😝
Because if people didn't buy rams for just the cummins, ram probably wouldn't have the cummins engine they got. Don't believe me? Look at nissan dropping cummins this year.
Roman sells me on the importance of torque everytime
I'm curious to how long these new mini diesels will last.
Really curious about the mpg numbers on this
You shouldn't do another video on this Eco Diesel, until you get mpg.
Looks promising. Please update us asap on the 4Q missing numbers, for us December purchasers!
I'm buying 2 of these eco diesels. One for my boat, one for off-road adventures.
@@Mr.Ramirez95 damn!
@@BryanRojo It's TH-cam. You can say anything you want while providing absolutely no evidence. 😂
Offset piston pin is how they can get 480 lb ft out of a 3l v6 without blowing the pistons apart. When the piston is at top dead center the rod end is already past top dead center. So all the pressure from combustion pushes the piston down vs fighting the piston as it tries to reach tdc.
Changes combustion phasing to get better mpg and less emissions.
Less noise is because there is less peak cylinder pressure.
They didnt make custom pistons for noise control lmao! Noise reduction is a side benefit. #marketing
Definitely an interesting concept to think through. If the benefit of offsetting the rod proves to be significant, you may see other manufactures do the same. The downside I see is greater chance of scoring the cylinder walls over time with the piston skirt due to the offset. Sure the piston is balanced accordingly, but so are all the pistons with centered connecting rod and you see it happen over time anyway.
@@baronvolkov6172 News flash its not a concept. Ofset piston pins have been around for 70yrs.
It actually reduces side loading on the piston not increase it as u suggest. Thats why its called engineering and not u tube dipshits designs.
Andre what is the towing numbers for the 4x4 Rebel EcoDiesel?
Should be 11000
Well that isn't so bad, but thought diesel could pull more than gas! So why go Diesel?
Fuel mileage
@@danielhaynie5502 So the extra 5K for the Diesel and $100 plus dollar oil changes and DEF washes out any fuel mileage advantages. NEXT!!! :)
@@JPE_DRAEB I agree, but that's what people buy into, because diesels do better on fuel. Gimmick or not, its true.
I actually like my '14 Ecodiesel a lot. Except for the CEL every few months and the resultant "software update" that "fixed" each CEL, and the ever declining mpg, and the fact that it got 5 years old and out of warranty. Can we expect better with the new version?
Just wish it had a front bench seat option.. 😒
@Daver G nope.. You can get em. Ty for chiming in.
That's cool that the ram box lights let you see in the dark...😎
Reliability?
Tries to turn down the radio.
Shifts into reverse on the highway.
cummins 4bt swap and you really got somthen there!
The R2.8 engine has more power stock than a 4BT. And is lighter in weight. Highly modified can be more power. For a price.
Be nice to see that engine in the new grand Cherokee
As always, Great review! And I like that truck with that motor
Have they Fixed all the problems with the eco diesel ???? from the previous gen ????
Mike Lemont Thats one of the first things they were mentioning is that it’s a redesigned engine. Heard the fix for the previous engine was not received well. Hoping this one is better.
I think so I have a 2018 no issues yet and 26,500 miles
James Wilson my 2014 has been great pal. Only issue is DPF will get clogged if you shut the truck off during regen, or if you fill the def tank all the way and the DEF expires and crystallizes. All diesels have to be built pretty strong because of how they run.
Joel Repass My goodness how long do you let your truck sit at a time to get your DEF to expire?! A year? lol
@@natehawkins2910 No but some stores let it sit that long. I now only buy from the dealer now
I’m a mopar man and.... hell no. “Fiat Quality” hemi 6.4or the 6.7 please
Did they get the ERG problem fixed and what about valve seats failing early.
V8 gas 5.7 way better and more reliable. No reason for eco diesel. I don’t drive American truck with foreign engine plugged with emissions. This is an Italian engine
As long as it has a timing chain, it should be better, Fords 3.0 diesel and GMs 3.0 diesel use a timing belt.
@@Flydevice1 - just curious why people are afraid of timing belts? I've had vehicles with timing belts, you just change them at the scheduled mileage. No big deal.
In Europe is diesel good for betterer price andl lower consumption
It’s actually a German engine made by vm motori which fiat also acquired
@@Flydevice1 The GM 3.0 Duramax uses a timing chain. The belt is on the oil pump.
Please update with the MPG ratings when they drop and also availability. Thx!
The only GOOD diesel is an inline six!
There's a reason why Semi trucks all use them!
Not all. But most. Mack I believe still produce a v8 for their own trucks.
@@craigquann Yes Mack did or maybe still does make them, but the few guys that I know who had them, did not like them.
Even the gasoline in lines were great.
They don't die and they put out allot of torque and great fuel economy and they are easier to work on!
Inline Diesel engines are cheaper to produce and easier to design - that is all.
@@axelrolle8150 in lines produce more torque .
at lower RPMs dew to the longer stroke.
GYFS
@@spyke123able No, it doesn't. I am from Germany. We have a lot more Diesel engines over here for normal cars. The most powerful over here is the V8 Audi Diesel with 435 hp and over 900 NM of torque. There is nothing comparable in the US.
So how does this truck have ram boxes and the new tail gate when you cant even get it on the website yet
I saw an axle lock button near the transmission dial, but you didn't talk about it. Is there a selectable rear locker on the new 2020 Ram Rebel 1500 Eco Diesel?
I’d still prefer an older Diesel
I hope a new cam gear and main bearings are part of that 80% new parts.
No kidding, exactly what i was thinking. Those were the main issues people were having.
The EGR system and horrible lubrication is the main thing that caused issues with the older versions of this engine. Didnt hear him say anything about improving the oil pathways, and capacity. If they didnt change this.......it will be trash. Also the cranks splitting on the older version was a major problem. (I do believe that was remedied however)
I wouldnt buy one. I sure wouldnt keep it out of warranty.
What about burning bio-diesel fuel that's sold in the Midwest. Also you guys should ask Mercedes Benz why their 3.0L diesel engine in the sprinter van is the weakest diesel engine.
Midwest fuel with corn in it? Midwest is killing engines with the government subsidized Ethanol.
like that tail gate
Can u guys please tell ram to put the Cummins in the power wagon already. We r all waiting
Uh ram already stated it wasn't happening several trucks ago because they would have to delete the winch in favor of the turbo intercooler....
@@Josh47147 yeah I know that but now with Ford coming out with a truck to try to go head to head with the power wagon. They are going to have to go back and find a way to put that fucka in it.
I'll be waiting for the video with the Chevy, Ford, and Ram half ton diesels. . I'm still not sold on this engine. Guys that had them over 100,000 miles started having major issues with them. Hopefully the 80% redesign addressed a lot of those issues.