I listen to Jillian often, but this talk was truly exceptional. The atmosphere of vulnerability and openness brought out incredible insights. Thank you guys, amazing talk !❤❤
Great conversation. I'm curious to find out, Is defensiveness a stress response or is it a by product of a stress response (fight)? And how do we work on it? I agree with mark that a lot of the content out there seems to me geared to wards the anxious people and not enough content is created for avoidant people who tend to pull away during stressful periods. As someone who has a disorganized attachment, it's been refreshing to find content that speaks in what is happening for the avoidant when they pull away. Understanding that a lack of safety to communicate their fears as well as a lack of capacity /emotional bandwidth to show up for oneself or the other person when theor stress response kicks in has been helpful in me understanding some of the places I may need to work on when I am deactivating
Have you checked out the most recent episode I did with Sarah Swain? We talk about the nervous system and healing avoidant attachment (and disorganized). Also the episode I did with her on the Attachment System and the nervous system is essential listening! My guess is those will answer your questions! Let me know if they bring anything else up!
"she's says "you're not responsible for their happiness..." and then immediately says "you're responsible for adding value, for trying to make them happier..." 🤔
My guess is that she meant: you are responsible to add positive value to their life which will make them happier BUT you are not responsible if after you tried they still cannot feel happy. You know what I mean? Like you are only responsible to do your part but they have to also work/play with that too. It’s a two people dance
I listen to Jillian often, but this talk was truly exceptional. The atmosphere of vulnerability and openness brought out incredible insights. Thank you guys, amazing talk !❤❤
Just found this woman yesterday. She is the awesome 😎
Powerful episode!! This info is so, so needed for creating conscious relationships & continuing the practice of “inner-work”. Loved it!
Wow ! Jillian thank you for opening up❤
Excellent Mark and Jillian! Thank you so much.
Jillian is the best! 🩵 Love her honesty and vulnerability. A solid human 🙏🏼
I haven’t watched it yet but this is the exact collaboration I have been dying for, both of yall are my top two people. Can’t wait to listen!
Great podcast. I enjoy both of your work and great to see this come together.
This is so good!
You guys rock
Great conversation. I'm curious to find out, Is defensiveness a stress response or is it a by product of a stress response (fight)? And how do we work on it?
I agree with mark that a lot of the content out there seems to me geared to wards the anxious people and not enough content is created for avoidant people who tend to pull away during stressful periods. As someone who has a disorganized attachment, it's been refreshing to find content that speaks in what is happening for the avoidant when they pull away. Understanding that a lack of safety to communicate their fears as well as a lack of capacity /emotional bandwidth to show up for oneself or the other person when theor stress response kicks in has been helpful in me understanding some of the places I may need to work on when I am deactivating
Have you checked out the most recent episode I did with Sarah Swain? We talk about the nervous system and healing avoidant attachment (and disorganized). Also the episode I did with her on the Attachment System and the nervous system is essential listening! My guess is those will answer your questions! Let me know if they bring anything else up!
errrrr the avoidant pulls away from anyone. a securely attached person will not tolerate that after a certain amount of time.
Truth! Sometimes it can trigger a securely attached person to become anxious though.
@@markgrovesExactly what happened to me
Brilliant
"she's says "you're not responsible for their happiness..."
and then immediately says
"you're responsible for adding value, for trying to make them happier..."
🤔
My guess is that she meant: you are responsible to add positive value to their life which will make them happier BUT you are not responsible if after you tried they still cannot feel happy. You know what I mean? Like you are only responsible to do your part but they have to also work/play with that too. It’s a two people dance