Hi Stefan, So far leather is at least as good as felt, it keeps chips and fine particules away from under the slides, much better than rubber in my opinion at least, and it doesn't decompose or dry with oil... Cheers, Pierre
@@pierresgarage2687 I'm thinking of stacking leather over felt, expecting the leather to protect the felt for longer...The bantam had plastic ones or what used to be rubber once (maybe) and they were so bad I always cringed upon that sight (plus my uncle turns a lot of cast iron clutches and brake discs so yikes). Ideally I would really like a steel scraper over the whole thing like the mill has, but that might be a little over the top.
Hello there Pierre Great stuff and a good use of Leather which we have stacks lying around, even thicker than what U used. Nothing to beat simple maintenance which U have rightfully alerted and showed how to. Thanks a zillion for sharing. ATB aRM
Leather is a good natural stuff and it's pretty tough in this application. don't forget to lube well also with a good way oil.... ;) Thanks for viewing and for comment, Pierre
Good regular maintenance and clean up of critical components is all it takes in order to keep those machines going for a long time... ;) Thanks, Pierre
You're more disciplined than I am, but at least it gets done befor it's too late... ;) It's kinda bed time over here, I'll do what Baily does best... Hit the sac... lol
Hi Harold, Those will be much liked by your faithful and trusty lathe, this should put a big smile on it's face... ;) That's a good way to keep on keeping on... Pierre
Great reminder, Pierre. Once I get the Colchester moved its time for a good servicing. The wipers definitely need replacing! So much fine grit from the plasma table and grinding dust... Never realized how easy it could be though. Thanks! Tom Z
Hi Tom, grinding dust is terrible on machines and even worse on humans, we'd also need some wipers like machines do... lol Your plasma table is a great add on to a shop, I would need to enlarge the shop over here but the city people don't understant how a guy needs a place to express his creativity... ;) Take care, Pierre
Another great video Pierre. ..looks like I have something to at the shop today...lol I did notice a small safety issue when u popped out the second wiper. Don't use the exacto knife cause those blades can snap off and next thing u know u have u have a bloody mess to deal with....lol
Hi Bob, I've been using those Olfa knives for more than 20 years now and I'm quite aware of the fact that the blade is meant to break at predetermined seams, one good tip about avoiding the unwanted breakage is to keep the blade as short as possible, this keeps the seam into the holder enough to avoid the break. Most people use those with a very long stick out and then the blade is verry prone to just snap with low force... Hope you're finiched changing the wipers at the shop by now... lol Winter is right at our door, don't forget the wipers on the car also, before the slush season statrs... ;)
I don't understand. The wear (grit?) come from the carriage's friction, placing wipers permanently traps the grit between them and therefore accelerate wear. I was always under the impression that wipers were to prevent chips getting under the carriage?
This doesn't mean that you neglect to pickup the grit on a regular basis, there is always a little bit of fine grit accumulating under any type of whiper, it's important to remove the bulk of the grit and chips, mostly the hardened ones.
Not mentionned in the video but done, also never use compressed air to clean the ways and carriages since it pushes the grit in all the spaces and openings, something to avoid at all cost... Thanks for your input, Pierre
Very nice idea. My machine is not fitted with such wiper. However it's on my Horizontal boring machine. I have a better way to regularly clean it without taking it off and keeping it soft. We can pour a little turpentine oil or Diesel on the slide way. Move it back and forth a couple of times and leave for few minutes. Again repeat back forth over the Diesel oil. You can see the dirt coming out easily.
Hmmm - something I really need to do after far too long. So far though no mounting positions. I do flush with generous oil often though. Yours look terrific. :)
Hi Chris,Flushing with oil and keeping it clean and lubed is a good way to minimize wear... Got that lathe like almost brand new old stock, it works all right for a Chinese lathe... Cheers, Pierre
I need to replace the wiper felt on the shaper, I need to make wipers for the Mueller, they are totally missing. I hate seeing those black smudgies on the ways, so I've gotten a bit obsessive about keeping them wiped clean. I've noticed a few with freshly restored lathes having that crud showing up on the first job, like the machine was never apart. That has got to be discouraging. Or disgusting, I'm not sure what to call it.
As soon as the nasty grit gets betwen the ways and the sliding parts there is gonne be some wear, it takes longer to dammage hardened parts but it still does it, good idea to make something to keep those clean or make some kinda wiper if there is noe to protect the tool... Good amout of way oil is also needed in order to make a decent cushion to keep the steel parts some distance appart from each other... ;)
Thank you!! I never thought about leather!
It's been a while and everything is still going good... Leather is quite a tough material.
Thanks for your comment... 🙂
Often overseen part of machine-maintenance. I like felt, but I will give leather a try too.
Thanks Pierre!
Hi Stefan, So far leather is at least as good as felt, it keeps chips and fine particules away from under the slides, much better than rubber in my opinion at least, and it doesn't decompose or dry with oil...
Cheers, Pierre
@@pierresgarage2687 I'm thinking of stacking leather over felt, expecting the leather to protect the felt for longer...The bantam had plastic ones or what used to be rubber once (maybe) and they were so bad I always cringed upon that sight (plus my uncle turns a lot of cast iron clutches and brake discs so yikes). Ideally I would really like a steel scraper over the whole thing like the mill has, but that might be a little over the top.
Hello there Pierre
Great stuff and a good use of Leather which we have stacks lying around, even thicker than what U used. Nothing to beat simple maintenance which U have rightfully alerted and showed how to.
Thanks a zillion for sharing.
ATB
aRM
Leather is a good natural stuff and it's pretty tough in this application. don't forget to lube well also with a good way oil.... ;)
Thanks for viewing and for comment, Pierre
It seems you have found a maintenance item we often miss. Thanks.
Good regular maintenance and clean up of critical components is all it takes in order to keep those machines going for a long time... ;)
Thanks, Pierre
Thanks Pierre I always enjoy your videos.
Hi Terry, thanks for the kinf words, Pierre
I generally remove my wipers and clean them once a month. A little maintenance goes a long way towards maintaining accuracy!
You're more disciplined than I am, but at least it gets done befor it's too late... ;)
It's kinda bed time over here, I'll do what Baily does best... Hit the sac... lol
Great coincidence, I just recently bought some new wipers for my lathe. Keep warm.
Amateur Redneck Workshop me too! I looked at mine about 2 weeks ago. Great idea about an old belt Pierre! Thanks :)
Get yourself a set of suspenders before making wipers from your belt... lol
Hi Harold, Those will be much liked by your faithful and trusty lathe, this should put a big smile on it's face... ;)
That's a good way to keep on keeping on... Pierre
Often neglected good reminder. Thanks
It helps tools and machines last way longer... ;)
Thanks, Pierre
good stuff Pierre, after the WIYB build i will be giving the Graziano some well needed lovin. Lots of things to take care of
Those machines always need a little pampering.... ;)
Time to get at it before they divorce us... lol
Enjoyed Pierre!
ATB, Robin
Hi Robin, thanks for visiting, Pierre
Great reminder, Pierre. Once I get the Colchester moved its time for a good servicing. The wipers definitely need replacing! So much fine grit from the plasma table and grinding dust... Never realized how easy it could be though. Thanks!
Tom Z
Hi Tom, grinding dust is terrible on machines and even worse on humans, we'd also need some wipers like machines do... lol
Your plasma table is a great add on to a shop, I would need to enlarge the shop over here but the city people don't understant how a guy needs a place to express his creativity... ;)
Take care, Pierre
Hi Pierre. Thank you for the tips. I Liked,Shared and added to playlists.
All my best.
Bobby
Hi Bobby, I really appreciate your interest and thanks for the kind words, Pierre
Thanks for the reminder!!
Guess it's alway a good time to check how a tool is doing, helps them last longer and better... ;)
Good call . I just replaced my wipers to. I may have started a trend.
Hi Chris, mine was overdue, really makes a difference... ;)
Thanks, Pierre
Pierre's Garage mine is so over due there's metal missing . Project for another day.
Another great video Pierre. ..looks like I have something to at the shop today...lol
I did notice a small safety issue when u popped out the second wiper. Don't use the exacto knife cause those blades can snap off and next thing u know u have u have a bloody mess to deal with....lol
Hi Bob, I've been using those Olfa knives for more than 20 years now and I'm quite aware of the fact that the blade is meant to break at predetermined seams, one good tip about avoiding the unwanted breakage is to keep the blade as short as possible, this keeps the seam into the holder enough to avoid the break. Most people use those with a very long stick out and then the blade is verry prone to just snap with low force...
Hope you're finiched changing the wipers at the shop by now... lol
Winter is right at our door, don't forget the wipers on the car also, before the slush season statrs... ;)
I don't understand. The wear (grit?) come from the carriage's friction, placing wipers permanently traps the grit between them and therefore accelerate wear. I was always under the impression that wipers were to prevent chips getting under the carriage?
This doesn't mean that you neglect to pickup the grit on a regular basis, there is always a little bit of fine grit accumulating under any type of whiper, it's important to remove the bulk of the grit and chips, mostly the hardened ones.
While you have wipers off it is a good opportunity to traverse the carriage up and own using plenty of oil to flush out the ways.
Not mentionned in the video but done, also never use compressed air to clean the ways and carriages since it pushes the grit in all the spaces and openings, something to avoid at all cost...
Thanks for your input, Pierre
Very nice idea. My machine is not fitted with such wiper. However it's on my Horizontal boring machine.
I have a better way to regularly clean it without taking it off and keeping it soft.
We can pour a little turpentine oil or Diesel on the slide way. Move it back and forth a couple of times and leave for few minutes. Again repeat back forth over the Diesel oil. You can see the dirt coming out easily.
Just make sure you always keep a good film of lubricant on the sliding surfaces, this prevents fine grit to cause wear, very important... 🌈👍
@@pierresgarage2687 We use the lubricant regularly . And we keep cleaning the surface very often.
Hmmm - something I really need to do after far too long. So far though no mounting positions. I do flush with generous oil often though.
Yours look terrific. :)
Hi Chris,Flushing with oil and keeping it clean and lubed is a good way to minimize wear...
Got that lathe like almost brand new old stock, it works all right for a Chinese lathe...
Cheers, Pierre
I need to replace the wiper felt on the shaper, I need to make wipers for the Mueller, they are totally missing. I hate seeing those black smudgies on the ways, so I've gotten a bit obsessive about keeping them wiped clean. I've noticed a few with freshly restored lathes having that crud showing up on the first job, like the machine was never apart. That has got to be discouraging. Or disgusting, I'm not sure what to call it.
As soon as the nasty grit gets betwen the ways and the sliding parts there is gonne be some wear, it takes longer to dammage hardened parts but it still does it, good idea to make something to keep those clean or make some kinda wiper if there is noe to protect the tool...
Good amout of way oil is also needed in order to make a decent cushion to keep the steel parts some distance appart from each other... ;)
did they use leather on old lathes, before modern rubbery stuff?
Leather and felt wer commonly used in older machines, they keep a good seal while staying soaked with oil... ;)
Nice reminder...mine need TLC as well.. :-)
Yep. some TLC is all it takes to keep a mariage going and avoid future alamony... lol
Take care, Pierre
Neither of my South Bend lathes have ever had wipers! They are on the list.
Not to diffucult to build and install, call it an investment... ;)
Thanks, PIerre