1 thing you have to keep in mind -Celtic history is heavily political the nonsense story of Scotland's western isles and coast was empty until the Irish came across is a perfect example of that
You don't even get it. They don't _care....._ You say they're wrong? They say who gives a F0ck. It's so much worse than you portray. They were never interested in being right, only in being read.
I feel like it'd be more on par with either future anthropologists finding all the mixed bones in France from both World Wars and declaring that there was no such people as the French or archeologists finding AK rifles everywhere and declaring that Russia was a much larger nation that it actually was or finding all the various katanas and knock off katanas and deciding samurai and bushido were not Japan specific.
Well, Native Americans didn't come from Europe. European Americans came from Europe. It would be like them finding Native American skeletons and saying that Americans didn't speak English.
@@steeljawXLol! Or, future archaeologists finding Mall Ninja artifacts in ruins of Hot Topic and Spencer’s and coming to the conclusion that Samurai were actually virgin European mercenaries that Daimyos hired during the Warring States Period.
@@GoogleAreEnemyCombatants"American" is a specific ethnicity, meaning those descended from the British rebels. It's distinct from native Americans, who migrated here earlier, and different than modifier-Americans, who migrated here later.
2:15 So Irish DNA existed in Ireland long before the arrival of the Celts, and this somehow means Irish people don't have Celtic ancestry? Is this what they're trying to say? If that is indeed what they're saying, that'd be as dumb as saying that because half of my DNA already exist in my father, I couldn't possibly be related to my mother since she is younger than he.
Journalist don't understand how immigration works apparently. The original inhabitants of Japan were the Ainu, an extremely gentically and culturally unique people who seemingly have no relation to the rest of East Asia. Going by the logic of this article, the current Japanese people must all be Ainu, despite the fact that there is clear evidence the ethnic majority of Japan (98%) are people descended from people who migrated from East Asia.
It doesn't make any sense anyway, Irish people have Gealic DNA. Celtic people came after and are Gealic and picktish mix, or Gealic and Welsh. And the Celt is just a roman word for outsider.
Thank you for this! ‘Celtic’ is used from a historian’s perspective to describe a cultural/linguistic group, so how on Earth somebody could claim analysis of skeletal remains undermine the Celtic tradition of Ireland is beyond me…
Well, the Article is CLEARLY stating "Celts", and not "Celtic" or "Celfified populations" for that matter... Metatron is simply overreacting on this one...
SILENCE! I will not hear your racism here. Dey wuz kangz n sheit! Although hopefully now American's will stop pretending they're "Celtic", celtic ancestry is near 0 in US stock.
@@favero4446No “overreaction” by the learned Metatron at all - merely statement of fact , despite strongly politically motivated objections from some who are unable to handle the truth! So it’s implied that there’s a hierarchy here - first : The Celts ; then the sort of Celtic ; then lastly mere “ Celtified Populations “, such as the Irish ! Really?! How little you know of the great ancient culture of Ireland, with the oldest vernacular literature in Western Europe ,after that of Classical Greece & Rome ….
I'm a student who studies Celtic studies in University and I research Irish History/Archaelogy in my free time. Yer video is spot on more or less, journalists in this country tend to have a deconstructing race agenda to push which in turn makes them push these ridiculous notions. There are Gaelic cultural aspects (as in pre-Celtic) that pre-date the arrival of the Celts, the Celts didn't bring absolutely everything but they did influence aspects here and there. Hence why they're called Celtic, with a Gaelic twist to a degree. People have the idea in their head that Ireland was only settled by Celts, which is completely untrue since human settlement has been discovered dating far back as 8000BC. Then suddenly everyone died and poof, the Celts appeared. Its a stupid misconception that I wish would die out. Sadly, there are many people who will push such notions on purpose to "deconstruct" Irishness as they call it and so on. Rant aside, grand video.
Ignore the idiot who commented above me, he thinks he knows more than those of us who have studied Ireland’s history for most of our lives. I don’t usually like to assume but I’m pretty sure he’s a leftist who is trying to push an agenda, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen other hot takes with no facts of basis in reality from him before. Edit: Now that I’ve seen what you think to be true I can address it, Iberia has no more claim on Celtic culture than Ireland because the people that brought that culture to Ireland also brought it to Iberia, it didn’t originate there.
@@kekeke8988 Current, medieval and primitive Gaelic is, yes. Gaelic before that (which we don't know much about minus some words) was not Celtic but I'm reaching back thousands of years so it's self explanatory. I think.
From my understanding, the Celtic culture dominated a good portion of Irish or Pre Celtic people culturally, so much so that there was a huge shift from pre-celt to celt style stuff. Specifically, the Celts that were living in iberia if I recall right.
I was a research assistant, a glorified intern lol. But my researcher always showed us articles that took a study way out of context. A study made a small connection and articles run with it like it's a fact.
@@3Kiwiana It's not the academics who are at fault usually, it's the pop sci writers, the newspaper editors and the like, who have zero training in the subject matter and who don't care to get things right. They just want to be read. This is why a lot of researchers refuse to sit for interviews for magazines and so on, because they know how often the words of experts are taken out of context in order to sell lies.
Dude you are without a doubt my favorite youtuberer, historical commentator, and Italian. I am in Irish Celt and since this narritive began they have used the weakest most ludicrous academic theories to discredit the entire possibility that there are in fact a Celtic people at all
So we found some bones under a pub parking lot, which probably means they got into a fight because one of them spilled someone’s pint or looked at his gf. And they lost, so quite possibly not even Irish. Maybe they were visiting from England for a flower arranging tournament or a bake off.
"And we’ve kind of got to tell a lie: we’ll go back into history and there will be black people where, historically, there wouldn’t have been, and we won’t dwell on that. We’ll say, ‘To hell with it, this is the imaginary, better version of the world. By believing in it, we’ll summon it forth." Yes, these people are evil. They literally want to re-write reality to confirm to what they demand you believe instead.
I think it’s more the equivalent of people posting “first” in the comments section. It makes ignorant people feel clever & intelligent to be the 1st to break news that “shatters the norms”. They’re not as interested in being accurate as they are in being the 1st one to know about a thing that everyone else got wrong for so long. It ends up lying somewhere along the Dunning-Krueger spectrum. They’re parroting things that they think are intelligent because they’re too ignorant to think critically.
@@koobs4549 you've missed the point. OP is quoting a certain mustache man, because his regime is now alive and well once again: just under a new management that stresses the 'oppression' cough I mean privilege of a certain color based on their appearance and not on their merit.
@@sonofthebearking3335 I’m familiar with the quote & you’re attributing it to the wrong guy. The “mustache man” didn’t say it, it was his head of propaganda, Joseph Goebles who said it. It’s not that I didn’t understand the quote or where it came from, I just disagree with his point for the reasons I stated in my comment.
@@BobT36 There's people trying to rewrite history from all sides, including conservatives. If you truly cared about history and being against propaganda you would criticize all sides and not be biased. Idk if you are. I was speaking in general. For example, some conservatives and some people downplaying, justifying, or glorifying slavery. It's twisted. Brandon F made videos criticizing those people. Some conservatives also said women were never oppressed in history or now. When the taliban banned women from college. There's people who do honor killings on women and girls for not wearing a hijab. Even in western countries. Second Thought has a video called America's forgotten socialist history, where some conservatives tried to rewrite socialism out. Such as that MLK was a socialist.
That's like saying Persians weren't Persian genetically at the time of Alexander the Great because their culture had intermixed with the Hellenic one .
@@game_boyd1644no actually they deserve to be made fun of. Their rhetoric is dangerous and dehumanizing of any and all white peoples which is one of the steps to genocide
The Irish have legends of the tuatha de danann who are said to be the original kingly fay people who inhabited the island. They receded into the woodlands as the spread of the continental peoples increased and they are directly what many fairy tales and fables are based on. Tolkien himself was heavily influenced by these legends and they resemble his sylvan elves.
So… then… according to Irish legends, the original inhabitants of the island should have *not* been major genetic contributors to modern Irish DNA. If they “receded into the woodlands”, that would indicate a dying ethnic group being supplanted by a new ethnic group…🤔
Oh, I think I read about it from reading about the movie "Secret of Krells". European mythology is underrated. Asian mythology interesr seems more in trend. Foreign Europeans have definitely lost their roots (e.g. Americans).
See, this video is just one more reason why I _love_ *Metatron,* and why I’m so glad that I found his channel! So-called news outlets should always ask themselves, "how would *Metatron* respond to this?" _before_ publishing any article!
Sorry to break the divine Triple-1, but that response earned that right...Everyone should ask themselves that, if you ask Me. Not just the news, but everyone, especially the religious,.
This article is basically making an argument equivalent to claiming American colonists weren't originally European because there were Native Americans who lived in North America before the colonists arrived.
@@GholaTleilaxu Primarily 2 main debates: one is a western birth of Celtic culture with a movement east and the other is the other way around. This origin of the 'celts' is open to investigation and the discovery of this DNA evidence is a major piece in the emerging consensus that Celtic culture was not a fixed identity coming from central Europe. There is no evidence at all for a Irish invasion in 500 BC. Anyone who assumes that Celtic origins are known and that they have been known for 100 years knows nothing about what is known and not known.
@@KALSKingdomEssentially, to use the past ( without being educated of it ) to justify the present is dangerous because misunderstanding the past and then trying to apply this lack of understanding to whatever it is youre trying to justify, youre not only incorrect, but spreading misinformation which is also detrimental, makes it possible people pick up the uninformed perspective because justifying ones way of living is far easier than reevaluating how we see things and acting accordingly. Its not that using the past is bad, using the past when you dont actually understand, which the average person doesnt, can be bad. Not inherently as you stated, but itd be far more common. 3:49
@@KALSKingdomIt isn't inherently bad, but here you can really see the agenda of negating the native european people's history to justify the multicultural and ethnic world. Especially with a nation as clear cut about culture and history as the Irish. Now that goal could be good or bad, or in between, that's on the reader's opinion. What matters is we are not fed facts by our media, we are fed pre-made opinions.
When you said "irish man", did you mean an actual irish living in ireland, or just a yank pretending to be one just because his great great great grandpa was irish?
@@LelakiKerdus Were you genuinely going to let it bother you if he gave you an answer you didn't like? Because if so then you must be real fun at parties.
"It turns out that skeletons from the period of the Aztec empire are related to modern-day Mexicans, therefore modern-day Mexicans cannot descend from Spanish immigrants!"
No because Celtic is a meaningless term and incorrect to begin with - at least in the context it is being used here! It’s actually offensive to call Welsh ‘Celtic’... the original peoples of these islands are not Celtic - it is NOT a culture shared with the continent... that came later into Ireland when the Gaels invaded what later became Scotland...
@@dannyboywhaa3146 What? Also Gael doesn't invade Ireland, instead they only steady migrate to Ireland until they outnumber ancient people who build Newgrange and absorb them into Gaelic population No invasion, just steady of migration that build up steady population of Gaels I am Irish here and also Modern Welsh are celtic now as they are descendant of Britons who been force to place that became Wale by Angol-Saxon
@@tiglishnobody8750 no the Kingdom of Gywnd was always Welsh... the Cornish, Welsh, Cumbrians and Bretons are not Celtic originally - far older language group.
You should read history before you ranting Irish aren't call Celtic either yet we are in categories as Celtic Also Kingdom of Gywnd rise after Roman left and you can guess, they are Brtion and Brtion are celts You should understand what celt and history is. :/@@dannyboywhaa3146
Is it not also possible the skeletons they found were of a different people all together?? Maybe some traders, merchants, or just travelers who happened to die there and were buried?? Maybe these bones didn't belong to ANY permanent inhabitants of Ireland.
But I guess the genetic makeup of the skeletons are in line with other skeletons from the area - and from all Europe from that time. There is nothing new about the fact that before the indo-european speaking people arrived there were farmers from the Mediterrain area living all over the continent.
@@soulsmith792 Honestly this whole situation stinks of someone trying to sell a book or gain uni cred for a "axiom changing" discovery, it stinks of a retired professor counting his days and asking himself what he didin his life
What is wrong with being descended from Celtic Peoples. My ancestry is Irish as far as I can tell, and because of this, Celtic as far as I can tell, and I have always, taken pride in this. Celtic culture is so rich and beautiful. Brutal in ancient times, but rich and beautiful as well. That being said; I could not speak a word of Gaelic if my life depended on it. I have a thoroughly, Anglicized tongue.
@@ivanj.conway9919 I'd like the answer to that myself. What a lot of English do not know or prefer to forget-take your pick-is that they also descend from Celtic tribes, such as the Iceni, the Briganti, etc. I'm proud of my Celtic heritage even if I speak no Gaelic. Six nations, one soul!
@@harrietharlow9929 : Hey, so are you First Nations as well? I'm Canadian so this is what we call Native American People. Well, everyone that lived in all of North America before the Europeans came here. I actually, prefer this term over Native Americans as I feel it more accurately describe the people that were here before we were, even if, maybe, it was coined by the white people in Canada, rather than the natives themselves. Actually, I'm not sure WHERE, it came from but I prefer it over Native American anyway. So you are part Celtic and part First Nations as well. Wow, wild. From what I understand Darling, and that understanding is limited to say the least; there are many similarities between Ancient Celtic Culture and First Nations Culture before European peoples came here. Maybe if Ancient Celts had come here instead of later Europeans, First Nations Culture would not have been destroyed to the same degree if at all, has we have seen happen over the past 500 plus years, regardless. Being white and of European ancestry myself; I am so, so, very sorry for everything my fore bearers did, and most certainly, do not support it at all, anymore than I support our attitude towards First Nations Peoples today. I guess, many English wish to distance themselves from this, because maybe, they erroneously, believe that they are descended from something better, as my understanding of Ancient Celtic Culture is that sadly, it was pretty, damn, brutal. But you take the bad with the good and learn from all of it, I guess. Despite that, the Ancient Celts created WONDROUS, beauty in their singing, and art and so forth, and even, in their language itself, which we can all take pride in. Interestingly enough though, Korean sounds very similar to Celtic. If you have ever, heard it spoken or sung you will detect the same lyrical quality to it. I love Korean singing, I find it absolutely, enchanting. I'm sure there are many First Nations languages that have a similar quality to them, as well. Much Love and Warmest Wishes. Be Well and Safe. Out. 🙂🖐🏼😌
"Discovery of bones under Dublin KFC branch proves Irish are actually descended from chicken." Wouldn't be surprised if they went with something like that next.
“Celtic 'is a magic bag, into which anything may be put, and out of which almost anything may come... Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason.” ― J. R. R. Tolkien
@@loairn The greeks referred to all those populations North of the Balkans as 'kelto'i which translates as hidden or unknown .. It would have included the people we now know (thanks to the romans) as Germanic, Galĺic Slavic ..
@@loairn Roman name for Ireland was Hibernia, they were well aware of its existence and even annex it (just forgot to actually send armies to take control of the place). Now the Roman name for the Irish raiders was Scotii, this actually lead for Ireland being known until the Middle Ages as Scotia and the Irish as Scoti, honstly this is a complex subject and ultimately irrelevant in the end because we are very aware of who lived in Ireland at that time and they werent Afro-Americans ...
Because they were under the ground in Ireland, duh. These people said the same shit about Africans in Egypt despite them being bordering groups so who fuckin knows
Great video. As an historian, and genealogist for my family, I run into the whole parroting of bad information frequently. Usually it's different people with the same old stories repeated over and over again... and when you get to the bottom of it, they used the same bad source. I call it "sloppy copy". It can be truly tiresome to go over the same thing again and again, only to hear, "well, it doesn't matter anyway, because what can we really know about the past?" When that happens I have to restrain myself from strangling people with primary source documents.
Can I ask why the indefinite article before historian gets a n on the end. Shouldn't it be 'a' historian? Like a hand, a hat or a high five? I see 'an historian' everywhere and it's grammatically incorrect to me. Even my phone is telling me to correct it.
@@alexandermendez4653 It's a regional thing, possibly British? Some people do it and some don't. Depends on your accent and how strongly you aspirate the H, I guess.
@@SockieTheSockPuppet Thank you! I grew up in an Irish neighborhood in BKLYN. And when I did in fact visit Ireland about 10 years ago, it was just as if I was back home (and I'm Greek now living in Greece). The only difference was that the Liffey ran through the middle of Dublin instead of the Hudson that ran at the edge of BKLYN (just two blocks away). And of course, the amazing live music (like the violin 🎻). Was amazing! And, I must add, the driving on the other side. I tried to enter the cab on the right-hand side and the cabbie who was waiting otiside, exclaimed "you want to drive?"
It is also important to remember the sample size. Three people are not enough to establish an ethnicity. Ireland has experienced several waves of setelment. Picts, Celts , Norse and Anglos are all part of the Irish genetic heritage.
Well yeah, like most lands and peoples, they are a mixed people genetically. With that said, there are certain halogroups and genetic patterns that predominate there.
@@wisedragon173 when your land has been invaded multiple times by various other ethnic groups such as stated in the original comment, I don't think "mixed outliers" would apply anymore and best believe in ancient times there was a lot of invading going on, how do you think that almost all of East Asia, Central Asia, and Eastern Europe ended up with mongol DNA with many even being related to Temujin AKA Ghengis Khan himself?
@@wisedragon173 I agree with what Cyborgchicken wrote. Will point out that some groups were less mixed than others though. Scandinavians were generally less mixed, because there weren't too many other groups trying to invade their lands (though I think there was a Slavic group that did from time to time). However, they did bring back Celtic and other ethnic group folks, from when they would go raiding other lands and peoples, so there was some mixing going on. There was a while when the Jewish Hebrews really tried to avoid intermarriage with other groups because of some of the teachings in the Talmud which specifically forbade intermarriage with the "gentiles". But even then, not all Jews held as much to the Talmud--some considered the Torah much more important.
Thank you for this. There has been what seems to be a concerted effort over the last 10- 15 years in academia and the media in Ireland to dilute what it is to be Irish. With multiple attempts to re-write Irish history.
These liberal leftist scholars went after the English first, and now they are turning on the Irish, who have already been subjugated by the English and have been denied the right to practice their cultural heritage for a long time. In an effort to "dismantle the... myths" of English nationalism, Cambridge University is teaching students that the Anglo-Saxons never existed as a distinct ethnic group. Liberal academics have long been critical of the term's link with "whiteness." "...claimed that the study of Anglo-Saxon history is fraught with "inherent whiteness". So, the fact that the Anglo-Saxons were white is too much for liberal academics to bear. As a result, these intellectuals decided that the Anglo-Saxons are not allowed to exist and have to go. Nonetheless, many self-proclaimed educated and intellectual people fell for it, swallowing this nonsensical reasoning, mindlessly repeating it, and informing the English that they are not Anglo-Saxons.
For your edification, my white brothers, and to join with the evidence already assembled over decades and even centuries, evidence from twin studies, expat data, IQ data, adoption data, crime statistics, socioeconomic data etc., I recommend these compilations of recent discoveries from the human genome project: 'A Troublesome Inheritance' by Nicholas Wade 'Human Diversity' by Charles Murray They propagandized the West into believing whites don't exist and race is irrelevant so they could destroy the West and forever dominate the world via banking and media. You know who.
As to pubs in Ireland, I can attest that while visiting Dingle, the hardware store and the shoe store both had Guinness on tap. Moreover, the hardware “store” was a pub on one side of the room, and something like a cluttered (unattended) garage workbench on the other. It was fantastic.
When I was growing up and when I was a teenager those kind of pubs were normal in Ireland . they were always family run and were local hubs of business and information . They usually had a different kind of licence called a six day licence as opposed to a seven day licence and were always posted on a sign over the door.
I cracked up at the colors and microphone analogy. I need to remember that one. You’re dead on target again with this video. It may seem like all you efforts are thrown away by the willfully stupid masses, but they’re not without meaning. Don’t stop doing what you do, it’s refreshing and informative!
My father's Grandmother (who married a french man and is a story for another day) was an Irish woman.... If she was still alive today, i dont think the publishers of this article would deny her Gaelic culture for very long 😂 she taught my father to speak the old Irish when he was a young child, and i remember him and my Grandfather both saying that she was willing to fight anyone who insulted her heritage.... And this would have done it 😂😂😂
There’s becoming less TH-camrs who do detailed content with structured arguments that are beyond just 10 minutes. Thank you Metatron, may your content survive the attention span decrease of the next generation.
It's because TH-cam desperately wants to be tiktok, so they are actively punishing content creators who produce quality video by not pushing their channels 😒
@@nietzchepreacher9477 I have a feeling though long content will be on the decline due to the push for fast pace consumption content. Attention spans of the next generation are getting shorter from short content. It’s best we identify and perhaps exaggerate the problem to get the point across.
True, but it's not just about the attention span. It's about people not being able to think coherently. Up till two decades ago, most of the internet was textual. You had to read a lot. You had to write on forums and email lists. Then broadband speeds made the internet audio-visual. Today a lot of people act like illiterates when it comes to digesting or writing text, and can't even understand arguments in audiovisual format anymore.
If only, the Irish mythology hadn’t idk had a creation story that was 7 invasions of 7 different cultures. I mean imagine my shock to digging up Fir Blog bones and be upset that they weren’t Sons of Mill bones….
Problem is that some people dismiss the book of invasions since it was written by Christians.There IS a chance that there were multiple migrations that inspired the stories in the Book of Invasions. I mean look at the Native Americans, we have evidence of several different migrations but most people think all Native Americans came from the beiring strait.
@@tempestvenator9809 It was _written down_ by Christians, based on much older oral traditions. Exactly how accurately it recorded those traditions is anybody's guess.
@@brucetucker4847 Yeah that do be the clincher. Everybody is assuming a Christian bias (as if modern historians aren't already biased) so they tend to get all huffy and claim we will never know the true Irish mythology.... when oral traditions DO change and what the Christians put down on paper may have been what they got from the oral speakers of that time since the Christians were one of the few groups who actually bothered to write stuff down.
@@Halbared Their pubs are amazing, Always packed, Full of the most interesting characters totally marinated in Guinness, Irish folk songs, They're just the best. I also find the accent quite sexy on a woman. The traditional old men also carry walking sticks which are used as weapons but i forget what their called now and I'd probably spell it wrong. A truly superb people.
Thanks for discussing this. My ancestry is primarily Irish, Scottish, and English so I really enjoy learning about the culture and history of both sides of the Irish Sea. From what I've read, some academics and media have been on a recent trend of deconstructionism lately at any cost. Similar to your recent discussions regarding Egypt and Cleopatra. I'm always really thrilled to see you standing for historical accuracy. Thanks for the great content as always, Raf!
Ya know what’s really sad? People don’t do real fact checking the way they’re supposed to. They just take a Google search for its word don’t even bother to verify the validity of what’s posted. This is one of many reasons why there’s so much falsehoods out here and very few who call it out.
It is terrible... a great example was looking up EULAs, some sites say they are legally binding. Most say they are not. Or look up Hinduism. You can find articles that say they are monotheistic and some say polytheistic. Kind of hard to figure out when half the articles out there are in direct conflict with each are.
@@jboss1073 watch the video and try again, since you won’t I’ll paraphrase. BEING CELTIC ISN’T GENETIC IT’S CULTURAL and yes, we most certainly are Celtic. When you’ve studied Irish history for 15 years then maybe I’ll listen to you but I’m guessing you’d also say Cleopatra was black right? Or maybe your the type to say that there was such a thing as the Moroccan Empire which spanned through into America. You complain about people not doing their research yet you come in here and say words that you want to be believed with NO evidence to back it. Show your evidence. I’ll wait.
@@IrishColin The video is not the boss of nature. In nature there are different peoples who name themselves different names. The Irish and Scottish never named themselves Celts in ancient times - the ancestors of the Portuguese did. The video dispels the myth that the Irish are Celts, which they are not. That is a Victorian and Romanticist view which comes from Nordicism. I would never say Cleopatra was black. She was of an Amazigh ethnicity. There was no Moroccan Empire in America. I have plenty of evidence to show you if you want. Have you read Ancient Britons and the Antiquarian Imagination by Stuart Piggott where an academic first debunked this Victorian romanticist notion that British Islanders and Irish are Celts? What about its academic successor The Atlantic Celts - Ancient People or Modern Invention by Simon James, have you read that important work? Or how about The Celts - Origins, Myths and Inventions, by John Collis - a pivotal work for this discussion - have you read it? Do you know Patrick Sims-Williams is a Celtosceptic (meaning he rejects that the Irish are Celts) and he is the current President of the International Congress for Celtic Studies which regulates ALL academic Celtic Studies degrees? Did you know any of that and are you sure you are equipped to have this discussion? What do you really need me to cite for you specifically that you don't already know, assuming you're familiar with the few works I've cited?
@@IrishColin By the way here is a prefect response for your attitude, by another person who agrees with me: @kekeke8988 11 minutes ago (edited) @jboss1073 Then Somalis born in Sweden are true Norseman by Metatron's logic if only culture matters. I'm surprised he's against blackwashing. By the same token, Afro-British are just as Anglo-Saxon as everyone else. What's his issue with Englishmen representing English historical figures? You are defending the same "we can be Celts because culturally we're Celts" that the leftists defend in order to call Somali people "Swedish".
My grandfather comes from Ireland. If I were to send this video to him, I am sure he would love it. I do too. You're speaking the facts, without the cringey historical revisionism.
Great video! One aspect of the several migrations of people to the British Isles I recently found is that it's possible that the last land bridge between the islands and the continent didn't sink until 350 BC!
This is a topic that was interesting to me when I started trying to learn the Gaelic language. I always thought that the Celts were a unique ethnic group, only to find out that saying "Celtic" was more in line with saying "American". The Celts were so ethnically diverse as they spread across almost the entirety of Europe that not only is there no specific ethnic group for the Celts, there's barely a single cohesive cultural group for the Celts. The Celts of Scotland varied greatly from the Celts of Eastern Europe or France in terms of their religious and cultural practices. It's one of the reasons why J.R.R. Tolkien completely left Celtic language and mythology out of LotR. He was frustrated over how fragmented and incoherent Celtic mythology was that he just ignored ALL of it, even though it played a huge part in the development of English culture.
"It's one of the reasons why J.R.R. Tolkien completely left Celtic language and mythology out of LotR. He was frustrated over how fragmented and incoherent Celtic mythology was that he just ignored ALL of it, even though it played a huge part in the development of English culture." I'm going to debate this, as there are a few elements in The Hobbit & LOTR that clearly show an influence from either fairy or Arthurian legends, both of which are pretty hard to isolate from Celtic influence. In the case of Arthurian legend, it's hard to separate out b/c it was home grown in Britain, & generally theorized to have been inspired by shenanigans of an IRL Celtic warlord. In the case of the fairy stories... well we can see analogous legends & creatures down thru France & Spain... the common cultural heritage there being Celtic. These elements would include: * Hobbits - with a name derived from Hobs, a helpful house fairy, & with a lifestyle not in line with any Norse mythological creature * the goblins from the Hobbit, which were subsumed in LOTR into the greater category of Orc... but Hobbit predates LOTR. Clear influence from George MacDonald & the 'color' fairy books... although obviously connectable to the kobolds, dark elves, etc. of Norse myth as well * Aragorn's whole story just reeks of Arthurian influence rather than a Norse hero's tale, ala Beowulf or Siegfrid * the whole blessed islands home of the elves / afterlife for Frodo to emo out in is basically Avalon - so Arthurian * and of course, Tom Bombadil, more reminiscent of Robin Goodfellow or a Greenman than Loki. Mind, I'll buy that he may have pivoted with LOTR away from the Celtic influences, because it was a right mess... but clearly they were involved in the sausage making at some point & not fully excised.
Well we have no survival of scottish celtic religion and limited info to go off for most of the celts to you actually have no way of saying that the had no cohesion that's literally just an opinion.. you're literally no better than the disingenuous articles.
That's really not the case at all, Irish and British Celts shared extremely similar religious and cultural practices to the Gauls of France to the point we have accounts of pilgrimages to France from Britain and young Gallic men travelling to Ireland to be trained as druids, our gods are almost the same and our mythology is almost identical. Also JRR Tolkien did include Celtic mythology in LOTR, heaps of it. He didn't include Celtic languages, apart from some Welsh in Sindarin, because he hated the Irish language because he didn't like how it sounded.
How exactly did Celtic myth play a huge part in the development of English culture beyond the Medieval popularity of the fantasy of King Arthur? John Barleycorn is thought to be a representation of Beowa ( an old English agricultural figure/deity) which is Germanic, Beowulf is Germanic thought to be written in England and not brought of with Norse 'North Germanic' settlers. Sam Newton gives good case for it being an Anglo-Saxon tale and its origination in East Anglia before the Viking settlements. Some have linked Beowa to Beowulf, but Beowulf is made of two words Beo 'bee' and wulf 'wolf' this Bee-wolf, a kenning for bear. The Maypole is primarily found in Germanic areas of Europe so that probably is relic of Anglo-Saxon culture in Britain. Considering there was a 70 percent replacement on the east coast of Britain by Germanic incomers I doubt there was much influence by Celtic culture. See a 2022 study... Now what did have a big impact was Christianity spread by monks from Ireland.
The funny thing is that the bones discussed were found in County Antrim, which was the last county to be majority Irish speaking, if that isn’t an extra bit of irony then I don’t know what is
Thank you for always being level headed and thoughtful and deeply cynical. Your exposure of the myth of salting the earth in Carthage has blown my mind since I learned it. I've passed that one along to several other people. Well done with this too.
Three skeletons does not mean the Irish people aren't Celts. They could have been shipwrecked, early explorers, visitors. Many explanations. Leaping to conclusions is getting to be common now.
Metatron's point was that it wouldn't have mattered if the tested skeletons were fully representative of Ireland's early population. Being celtic is a cultural thing not a genetic one. It'd be like saying people in ancient Norway weren't Norse/Scandinavian because they didn't have Norse DNA. A similar misinformation but in reverse happens for the Incan and Mayan people. People commonly believe all of the people died out or disappeared but that's not what happened. They interbred with the Spanish colonizers and their culture was gradually overwritten by Spanish culture. DNA tests in Mexico and many central American nations still find lots of Aztec, Incan, and Mayan DNA present in the population. There is still a bit of mystery into the speed that cultural upheaval happened under but it's not the "this civilization died overnight" claim articles often claim.
Some of my favorite videos are the ones that debunk stupidity. The sad thing is that, as you mentioned, now there will be lots of articles which all stem from this one and give this idea unearned and undeserved credibility.
I'm at 4:05 and I'm already screaming: THANK YOU! I had this argument so many times... DNA vs culture. As non university educated guy, atleast not educated enough to be sure about his understanding of the matter, this was great boost to my confidence.
It's just annoying to meet Czechs, who believe they are not slavs even though they can talk to you only by a slavic language. And it's all because of these stupid articles about DNA, which most of the time doesn't even say what then they claim.
I don't want to shake your confidence my friend but just because a professor of archeology put his name to something outside his field of expertise doesn't devalue a University education, this was a University education correcting an untruth given by another, it happens all the time. What this article should've done is consult an anthropologist, as the Celts are as Raf says a cultural group not a particular genetic make up, so can't be separated by a genetic study especially such a small number of them
@@hiddenhydewithinhim I am also from czech rep, I don't think you can deny that, but say for example I have ancestors from Germany and Austria from my dad's side, I don't have to use the slavic language at all, only with the bare minimum because I live here for now. But just because I was born here, and I do speak the language, does it mean I have to embrace the slavic culture as my own? No.
@valandil7454 I know, but man, leave me happy atleast a day. Debate about whether haplogroup R1a(in words of my opposition ''THE SLAVIC BLOOD'') is the only single good indicator to determine slavs, while I've been literaly booed on this matter by everyone was one of final nails into the coffin of my FB profile as I almost lost all hope in people, me and the universe. This video really helped me on deeper level to not feel either intelectualy isolated or as a complete idiot. :D @@lopolik no, I didn't say that. There are two problems I have... if person is born Czech, without any other stronger relationship to another country, knows only Czech, is unwilling to learn any other language, but still claims he ain't slav, those are the people I'm pointing finger at, which I believed I made clear by ''even though they can talk to you only by a slavic language''. With these I've got problem. The other problem is when this person claims Czechs as a whole ain't slavs, because some article based on one of hundreds other differently ending researchs says we are R1b more than R1a, which as I said is different result with every research. And it doesn't matter, because even if we are just bunch of germans who were in 18th/19th century reeducated to Czech culture(which also ain't exatly true, right? even though people would claim it till end of days) we are today still speaking by the f** slavic language. I would expect from these city kids of no knowledge in traditional customs of country to atleast prove their point by showing me some of their deutsche, but that never happens, because they don't understand being slav as cultural thing, but as a blood thing and since this Blesk article tells them their blood ain't slavic, they ain't slavic. And in the end they can be whatever they want, even Clingons, I don't care, but they should stop telling me I'm not slav, because I don't know how they, but I only with Czech can visit any country they claim to be slavic and speak there pretty fine with my native lan.
I was born in Ireland and had a discussion with a professor of Irish history who married into the family. He agreed with what you were saying but asked me to not discount the Viking input to our genetics. I am a carrier for Haemochromatosis and passed it on to my son, its common amongst the Irish and those with Irish ancestors.
I am descednant of Norman but my father side is also Gaelic and yet I born and raise in Ireland so I am Irish Blood aren't everything to make Irish as heck I am 1/4 French by genetic yet I never speak French or even understand France more than what Irish can general know
@@jboss1073 Well me as Irish you got wrong We use term Gael and it just mean Celtic and we are celtic as heck it even mention almost everywhere in Irish media
Dude, fantastic explanation, as always. Not only you adresed a subject that was causing the spread of "fake news", as you explained for us that cannot understand properly the talking of professors and scientists what were the discoveries that they've made and how important they (really) are, not only in this case but in all the others. Thank you for the fantastic lesson.
While I know it will upset some Irish nationalists, it really is fair to call them the British Isles and treat them as a single geographical region, precisely because of the regular waves of migration you talk about both from outside and within. (If you have a better alternative name, I'm all ears...)
@@edwardcullen1739The British Isles is the accepted name for Britain and Ireland geographically, I haven’t met a person it upsets yet and I’m from the South, so practically everyone you meet is for the Republic.
@@Seanain_O_hEarchai Me as Irish, many Irish far as I remember doesn't really accept this terms and even in some Map book just call Irish-Britsh or British-Irish Isle depend you call
No, the Celts were several groups. There were at the very least two very distinct introductions of Celtic in Britain and Ireland, one introducing Q-Celtic and one introducing P-Celtic. Most people only focus on the last migration, the P-Celtic one, but the first introduction, (which might have not been a migration at all and actually simply a linguistic shift) is very often ignored.
I am fascinated by this wave of arrogance in trying to discredit or outright deny an entire cultural heritage of a people using information based on assumptions rather than actual facts.
What cultural heritage? The Irish have only been incorrectly called "Celts" since the 16th century. Certainly no ancient Roman or Greek ever called them Celts, so again - what heritage?
@@Seanain_O_hEarchai Yes. Gaelic people have nothing "Celtic" about their history. Their languages only started being called Celtic in the 17th century and only by a minority of scholars. John Collis, current Celtic Scholar, points out that languages are named after people, not the other way around. Hence Scottish and Irish cannot be called Celts even if they speak a so-called "Celtic Langauge" just like the Romans did not call themselves "Latini" for speaking Latin, they called themselves Romans after the place they came from, not the language they spoke, and the languages from the Romans today are called Romance, and their speakers today are not called Roman, so just the same Celtic speakers cannot be called "Celts". Irish people are Hibernians and speakers of Hibernian and Scottish people are Caledonians and speakers of Caledonian. The name "Celt" is not a part of the history of those peoples.
@@jboss1073 But isn’t Celt more of a cultural grouping? The Priteni are often considered the original Celts on the Isle and their language and culture is derived from the same Proto-Celtic as the Iberians and Gauls, hence the relationship
I don't know what the statute of limitations for murder is in the UK, but I think the police should have investigated even though it was 2000 years ago because the perpetrator may be dead by now, but there is also a possibility that it was The Highlander. There can be only one.
My DNA test showed markers in the haplogroup that first occupied Ireland going back at least 6000 years BCE. The marker bounced back and forth between Ireland and Scotland, then completely vanished the Isles around 1000 CE, suddenly re-appearing in Norway. To this day the area is named after my relative's farm, which is still operating. Their local stave church kept decent records, and I was able to find entries of my relatives as early as 1298.
@@branthomas1621 We used the 'Human Genome Project' NatGeo service back before they sold it off to AncestryDNA. It was a Helix co-branded kit, no longer available. The Helix kit was far more detailed. They did give us a subscription to AncestryDNA after the sale, but it doesn't go into details as the original did.
Brilliant video, thank you! I've never actually studied Celts and thus was also having the wrong impression that it's more an ethnic group rather than cultural. But you've made a perfect sense. I wonder if the same is true for the Scandinavians, who are considered to be Germanic people (with obvious cultural and linguistic ties to the continent), but likely incorporate DNA of pre-Germanic inhabitants too.
As someone with many Irish Relatives, I'm so glad that you are willing to stand up for the true unadulterated history of Ireland. Too often is Historical revisionism tolerated or even encouraged by the mainstream Media and Hollywood. Seeing someone like you who stands for truth above Profit is amazing.
Its the agenda thats the problem.I am irish while my identity is not predicated on how celtic we are ,i still think there is a clear agenda to water down native irish ethnicity to fit in with diversty ,multiculturalism and inclusion.
Omfg they literally described the bones as very possibly the Milesians, which were already claimed to be part of Irish ancestry all the way back in The Book of Invasions.
Thank you so much for mentioning the Cornish as many people over look us. Nevertheless, there is a Celtic gene but as you say, it is not 100% needed for the Celtic culture to exist there, but all the Celtic nations have the same ancestry, although it can vary from its sources. For example, many people said that the Irish were not the same as the British Celtic people because the Irish actually came from Spain, and therefore were not Celts. However, what they failed to realise, was when the first great Celtic migration went west, a large group travelled south and headed towards North Spain, which is now Galicia (one of the Celtic Nations). Some settled in the northern hemisphere of Spain, while surprisingly others started travelling by ship or boat north towards Ireland. Whereas other Celts went west through Gaul and then Northwest into Britain. In reality, the same amount of countries are traveled to get to Ireland. Some had a cross Gaul and Britain, whereas others had to go across Gaul and Spain to Ireland.
Not only Galicia, in certain parts of Catalonia and Occitania they even became the majority for a while, however the already existing culture was more powerful so they didn't make as big as an impact as in some other places.
You seem to have misunderstood the whole point of this video. Celtic is a cultural style, not a race. It's nothing to do with genes or ancestry and everything to do with politics and cultural beliefs and priorities. English people with genes that come from Africans transported as slaves to the Carribbean are English - despite their genes. Englishness is cultural not genetic. Just as Celtic is cultural not genetic.
@@AndyJarman you’re right it doesn’t necessarily have to rely on genes but nevertheless there is Celtic genes because when they did DNA tests on Britannic Celtic peoples and the English which were Saxons, they discovered the genes were not closely related at all. You are right the Celtic people were a culture, but also there was genetic identity’s as well. The group will often be genetic and cultural together, and by removing the identity of one can often erode the other. Nationality can wear many hats. The people who arrived in England from African and asian countries are considered part of the nation today, but they are not connected to the historical origins. For example, if someone was doing a dark age, Arthurian story, they would not put Asian or African individuals into it.
I think Lepontic is the oldest Celtic language, based on inscription evidence, and it is P-Celtic. Also, Welsh has far more everyday speakers than Irish. It is much more of a living language that has been in continuous use for thousands of years. It's also the only Celtic language that is not endangered.
@@ProleCenter Don't listen to jboss1073, he is spreading false information. He thinks Cleopatra was a Amazigh (Berber). The term Celtic was used by the Greeks to describe a culture that a bunch of tribes in southern Gaul (modern day France). These tribes spread that culture to Iberia and Ireland amongst others. It doesn't matter what they called themselves, what matters is that they adopted the culture that was known as Celtic. What you self identify as does not change facts or reality, I can't self identify as a monkey and have it come true. Using his logic then the Mexican and Southern American people wouldn't be Spanish if they didn't call themselves Spanish but hat wouldn't be true. They have the language and the culture as well as shared lineage from intermixing of the populations so therefore they would be Spanish no matter what they called themselves. A good example is you can be Columbian and Spanish at the same time, one is a cultural identity and one is an ethnic identity. The same goes for the Irish. Gaelic is heavily influenced by the Celtic culture.
Your channel is a breath of fresh air in this age of clickbaits and uninspiring journalism. We need more of your type of videos based on facts and science.
@@Madanth0ny That's because humans didn't evolve from monkeys. The theory states that great apes and humans had a common ancestor millions of years ago. Very different concept.
Did you not hear what the Professor out of TCD said? There was other remains that have been located, showing there where already people in Ireland predating the Celts (different genetic make-up), not just based on the three skeletal remains found under a pub. Given there are archelogical remains in Ireland that predate the arrival of the Celts, there obviously was an entirely different ethnic people living there already.
. @SephoraBelle Did you not read that I made this comment when I heard only 3 skeletons and then proceeded to watch the rest of the video?..... I'm just sayin....
I love your passion. I remember watching another video (from the Penn Museum, I believe) about modern excavations of Troy. He told the story of how they got some ground survey data from the plain surrounding the mound that suggested that there might have been a wall surrounding a lower city. They told some journalists and suddenly it was being reported that they had "found the walls that Achilles had dragged Hector's body around during the Trojan War". When the archaeologists finally got around to excavating they found not a wall, but a ditch (which using their method ground survey would have shown identical signatures to each other). The lesson he took from this was something along the lines of 'never talk to journalists'. What the professors and scientists (in the article your video covers) were probably talking about is how the discovery of a link between the modern Irish and the ancient inhabitants of Ireland further disproves the migration/invasion theory of cultural spread that was the scientific canon in the mid-20th century.
How do they discuss e.g. computer technology related topics? I suppose they use English words for what gaellic doesn't have or have linguists coined new words?
You honestly seem like a really good dude. An intelligent, honest, interesting, and charismatic one at that. Too bad more dudes aren't like you, the world would be a better place.
This reminds me of a book I have on the Anglo-Saxon conquest of Britain by Guy Halsall. He uses DNA studies to show that the Saxons/Angles/ Jutes arrived in small numbers and subjugated the indigenous Britons with less brutality as was once thought.
Yeah, the phenomenon is called acculturation. It happed in the Golden Islamic era when Arab science, language, religion and literature became the dominant force in North Africa and non-Arab speaking Middle East. Or in lands such as Russia where an amalgam of Finno-Ugric, Norse, Slavic, Turkic, Iranian and Greek population became the modern day "Russians".
Yep. It was a long term cultural pressure for the most part, like how american culture permeates today. Difference in bloodprice for saxon speakers and celtic speakers after invasion also had an effect
I really like these videos, truth and fact's, spoken in clear and well spoken manner. Please keep them coming, this is exactly what rational and sane people need in their programming.
My own initial thought with the claim that the bones are levantine is that they might have been traders, depending on the year they're dated too. Irrc, theres evidence that tin from the Brittish Isles was traded all the way to Egypt/Anatollia in the bronze age, so its not impossible that some traders arrived to Ireland and died, were buried, and managed to survive.
the copy+pasting of articles also has another purpose, to flood the web with the illusion of a consensus on a particular issue or topic. if a normie sees 25+ articles all stating the same thing, they will simply take it as fact. they do it not only because they are lazy, but because it pushes their cause.
You're right, 'Celtic' is a reference to culture, not genetics. The first people in Ireland and the British Isles, were the neolithic peoples who built Scara Bray, Stonehenge, and New Grange. The second wave was the Bell Beaker people, whose DNA I share 100% of. These people were known as Celtic because of art, language and other cultural aspects.
@@minutemansam1214 Where do you think the Tectosages, the Trocmii, and the Tolistobogii come from? learn the basic history before you comment on things. "The Celts of Anatolia" literally migrated there from Gaul. this is all reasonably documented as well
NO! The first people in Ireland and the British Isles were NOT "the neolithic peoples who built Scara Bray." As a retired archaeologist I assure you Palaeolithic stone tools manufactured by Homo heidelbergensis are commonly found in England. Just look up Clactonian tools and Acheulian sites in the UK. I found a Clactonian cleaver now in the British Museum in my back garden. These tools date to the end of the first Ice Age, about 450,000 years ago. The earliest evidence of humans in the UK are the footprints excavated at Happisburgh, Norfolk, dating to about 700,000 BP. There is a Neaderthal skull from Swanscombe in Kent. Humans disappeared from Britain during the Ice Ages, returning most recently about 10,000 years ago after the Devensian glaciation. Settlement was then made by the distinct Mesolithic culture which dates from the end of that Ice Age to about 4,300 years ago and is widely represented throughout the UK. (Look up Mesolithic tools in Yorkshire). So, sorry, you are very wrong. The first people in Ireland and the British Isles were not neolithic people.
Excellent as always Metatron. I would love for you to conduct a similar analysis of the Spanish. Being from Northern Spain we have always viewed ourselves as a combination of Celts and Visigoths. Just curious to get your input. 👍🏻
Nothing is being protected here, he is ignorantly contributing to British Romanticists from the 17th century who stole the name "Celts" from the Iberians. Watch Celts and The End of Roman Britain and you will learn something up-to-date.
But he is confusing a few things. Culture doesn't make you a certain thing. Are the Spanish and French Roman? They share a similar culture and language...genetics matter
@@PoetofHateSpeech so let's say I left Britannia and joined the Roman Empire and became a general did great deads became known in history and so was that because of my genetics or was it because I was part of the Roman empire culture 🤔 and so those terms France, Spain, did not exist back then they was called Hispania,Gaul. So in history the need for genetics is for Human movement in history across the world and not culture did that help at all.👍?
The author did this on purpose. They didn't 'misunderstand' -- they twisted the content they were relying on in order to create click bait out of nothing. That's all that is. We see it all the time with popular science articles, you get people writing these who know nothing about the discipline, nor do they actually care about the discipline, so they take things out of context on purpose and mislead their audience, on purpose, for clicks. I've seen this many times. Such authors should be called out as the conniving liars they are. They should have so little credibility after publishing such articles that they can never get paid to write another one again. Yet the system rewards them, because they get those clicks. And the typical person who may be interested in the subject but doesn't know any better comes away believing utter rubbish, so the next person they tell about it can inform them that they've been had. Embarrassment and controversy ensues. This is precisely why Ancient Aliens exists. My sis had been trying to get me to watch it, saying of course Aliens did it! I had to lecture her for an hour and tell her she was being fooled by people with bad motives, and she STILL doesn't believe me. It's so infuriating.
Bad information drives out the good. That's a downside of the internet: you can have stuff about ancient aliens next to a scientific article and you can't tell the difference. Or the scientific article is behind a paywall.
Agreed. Except that I'll raise you one: They're trying to make people lose belief in their own cultures on behalf of their globalist financiers, the same "movement" that influences the WHO and our politicians and corporations.
I think the main reason these stories get so much traction is because, wouldn't it be like super interesting if we found some groundbreaking remains that changed our entire perceptions of everything?
that's not how science or history has ever worked though. It's pretty much a surefire way to identify the bs. Is it "groundbreaking discovery that changes everything"? Yes? Then it's a fraud
@@BloodwyrmWildheart No we don't. You just got caught in the exact same trap. You WANT to believe in grand conspiracies, because it makes your reality more exciting. The evidence for or against these hypotheses matter less to you than the excitement of the lie.
Well yeah, that's the point. Clickbait articles are designed specifically to make you click on them. They are manipulative. Actual historical research requires critical thinking and evidence-based methodology. All of which online article journalism on entertainment sites lack. They don't want to inform you of anything, they want you to click their link and see their ads. In truth, reality is more boring and slow to improve upon or discover anything about than what most internet keyboard warriors want to think it is. You won't find massive discoveries changing our entire perspective in a single night. The chances of that happening are close to 0. Above all else, the majority of people on the planet want to be entertained, and that comes at the cost of the spread of properly researched information, in favor of populism, uncritical thinking, and entertainment over education.
@@BloodwyrmWildheart ah yes, the "big whatever is suppressing X" is another red flag and safe assumption for bs. It has been used by each and ever single scam and fraud for centuries
Off topic a bit, but I always love seeing you come across a word in English that's new to you. English not being your first language, it's interesting to see how fluently you speak it, but are still learning words that most Americans would know. Keep seeking more knowledge. And keep calling out the historical lies! Stay noble, friend.
This reminds me of the national geographic article where a "journalist" heard a professor say "workers in this city in Mesoamerica piled up rocks to create fountains", and then wrote a great expose how "ancient Incan ruins prove they definitely discovered flush toilets!"
regarding the "not calling the police after finding one skull": Our holiday residence is on a former roman graveyard and my dad used to dig bones up when working there. So I guess it was not his first rodeo either xD
A point of information at 1:10 -- "Co Antrim" is short for "County Antrim" and would be pronounced as "County Antrim" when reading it. This may help you if you come across Irish counties in the future 🙂
I am a Cornishman and proud of it. My Surname is of the Cornish language something like farm/settlement/village on a hill. My surname is, apparently the old name of Tintagel on the North coast of Cornwall. A few days ago I ordered a DNA test kit and I am looking forward to the results following the test. I suspect that my ancestors come from a Spanish origin, although I have my father's fair complexion whereas my late brother had the more swarthy colouration of my Mother's side of the family. We shall see. Great video, as always, and I think the old saying, "a sheep born in a stable is still a sheep and not a horse" holds well for the skeletons.
I've not been to Cornwall, it looks like a beautiful spot. I'm from the Aran Is in Galway, I did an ancestry test which came bk 8% Scottish rest Irish. Like you half my family myself included look like we're from the Med If we get a tan, the rest sizzle and burn
@@siogbeagbideach Greetings, celtic cousin. Yes my father's side of the family are probably part lobster, any hint of hot weather and we turn bright red. Now at nearly 70, I have learned to wear a wide brimmed hat and to cover up when in the sun, or stay out of it altogether. Growing up in Cornwall and only being three miles from my local beach, I spent all of my summers on the beach with my friends, I am bloody lucky not to have been covered in skin cancers. I have been so badly sunburnt that I have had huge blisters all over, well nearly all over. Duw genes.
@@duster. Dydh da! Blisters in the sun 🌞 I know I know! Bk in the 80s as a teen, I remember burning the bk of my knees and not being able to walk for a few days, at least we've wised up! It'll be very interesting to see what comes bk on your dna test, if you remember come bk and tell me! the Scottish thing threw me for a minute but it was the loveliest surprise, I'd been using duolingo to learn a bit of Gàidhlig, it's not that different from Irish. Do you speak/ have knowledge of Cornish?
@@siogbeagbideach I wish I knew more of the Cornish language, Kernewek. Unfortunately the revival came too late for me to learn it. Obviously place names, surnames, like my own, gives you an insight as to what it is. I believe that the language has three genders, and tenses are difficult to wrap your brain around. The DNA, saliva test went off to the labs yesterday and they reckon on 6 to 8 weeks for a result, but yes I will definitely post back here.
@@metatronyt It makes it a house and a home. The people who regard the pub as home might be scratching their houses from the list of homes, thus being at the pub so much. But this still doesn't validate your bold claim. 😜
Love for you to make a video about the Dutch. Our stamp om history is big for such a small country. You don't hear that much about us. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
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1 thing you have to keep in mind -Celtic history is heavily political the nonsense story of Scotland's western isles and coast was empty until the Irish came across is a perfect example of that
Could they have been Picts if not Celts?
I'm not a history expert. I'm just asking a question...
A must-watch video for all individuals on Wikipedia who try to prove ethnolinguistic affiliations with haplogroups.
Well, sometimes migrating people do kill everyone - or at least all the men - and replace the indigenous people with their own DNA.
Peak journalism: When you're so wrong you disprove yourself while not understanding how you did it
"Fiery but mostly peaceful protests..."
Not surprisingly,the last article I read was: Oliver Cromwell's peacekeeping mission in Ireland.
I hesitate to compare this to some present "governments"...
You don't even get it. They don't _care....._ You say they're wrong? They say who gives a F0ck. It's so much worse than you portray. They were never interested in being right, only in being read.
@@janetmackinnon3411 Some governments deserve that comparison, and may even look worse that "peak journalism". :P
Imagine someone in thousands of years finding a few native American skeletons and saying Americans didn't really come from Europe
I feel like it'd be more on par with either future anthropologists finding all the mixed bones in France from both World Wars and declaring that there was no such people as the French or archeologists finding AK rifles everywhere and declaring that Russia was a much larger nation that it actually was or finding all the various katanas and knock off katanas and deciding samurai and bushido were not Japan specific.
Well, Native Americans didn't come from Europe. European Americans came from Europe.
It would be like them finding Native American skeletons and saying that Americans didn't speak English.
@@steeljawXLol! Or, future archaeologists finding Mall Ninja artifacts in ruins of Hot Topic and Spencer’s and coming to the conclusion that Samurai were actually virgin European mercenaries that Daimyos hired during the Warring States Period.
@@GoogleAreEnemyCombatantsI think Native Americans did come from Europe or Asia.
@@GoogleAreEnemyCombatants"American" is a specific ethnicity, meaning those descended from the British rebels. It's distinct from native Americans, who migrated here earlier, and different than modifier-Americans, who migrated here later.
2:15 So Irish DNA existed in Ireland long before the arrival of the Celts, and this somehow means Irish people don't have Celtic ancestry? Is this what they're trying to say?
If that is indeed what they're saying, that'd be as dumb as saying that because half of my DNA already exist in my father, I couldn't possibly be related to my mother since she is younger than he.
Journalist don't understand how immigration works apparently.
The original inhabitants of Japan were the Ainu, an extremely gentically and culturally unique people who seemingly have no relation to the rest of East Asia. Going by the logic of this article, the current Japanese people must all be Ainu, despite the fact that there is clear evidence the ethnic majority of Japan (98%) are people descended from people who migrated from East Asia.
It doesn't make any sense anyway, Irish people have Gealic DNA. Celtic people came after and are Gealic and picktish mix, or Gealic and Welsh.
And the Celt is just a roman word for outsider.
@Rickardspaghetti. This started to sound like a tale of Scots Irish family ties in the Appalachians. Anyone hear a banjo?
So, I guess if the English have Saxon DNA, they cannot be descended from the Normans 😂.
@@sanjivjhangiani3243 I live near Normanton and Bretton. This could get confusing.
Thank you for this! ‘Celtic’ is used from a historian’s perspective to describe a cultural/linguistic group, so how on Earth somebody could claim analysis of skeletal remains undermine the Celtic tradition of Ireland is beyond me…
Well, the Article is CLEARLY stating "Celts", and not "Celtic" or "Celfified populations" for that matter... Metatron is simply overreacting on this one...
SILENCE! I will not hear your racism here. Dey wuz kangz n sheit! Although hopefully now American's will stop pretending they're "Celtic", celtic ancestry is near 0 in US stock.
Jokes aside, all this shit is about retconning UK history and EU history to turn everyone brown. Always has been.
@@favero4446No “overreaction” by the learned Metatron at all - merely statement of fact , despite strongly politically motivated objections from some who are unable to handle the truth!
So it’s implied that there’s a hierarchy here - first : The Celts ; then the sort of Celtic ; then lastly mere “ Celtified Populations “, such as the Irish ! Really?! How little you know of the great ancient culture of Ireland, with the oldest vernacular literature in Western Europe ,after that of Classical Greece & Rome ….
@@nicnaimhin2978ancient irish is far more ancient than anything roman
I'm a student who studies Celtic studies in University and I research Irish History/Archaelogy in my free time. Yer video is spot on more or less, journalists in this country tend to have a deconstructing race agenda to push which in turn makes them push these ridiculous notions. There are Gaelic cultural aspects (as in pre-Celtic) that pre-date the arrival of the Celts, the Celts didn't bring absolutely everything but they did influence aspects here and there. Hence why they're called Celtic, with a Gaelic twist to a degree.
People have the idea in their head that Ireland was only settled by Celts, which is completely untrue since human settlement has been discovered dating far back as 8000BC. Then suddenly everyone died and poof, the Celts appeared. Its a stupid misconception that I wish would die out. Sadly, there are many people who will push such notions on purpose to "deconstruct" Irishness as they call it and so on. Rant aside, grand video.
His video is not spot on, it is actually completely wrong and outdated. Would you like to talk to me about it?
Ignore the idiot who commented above me, he thinks he knows more than those of us who have studied Ireland’s history for most of our lives. I don’t usually like to assume but I’m pretty sure he’s a leftist who is trying to push an agenda, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen other hot takes with no facts of basis in reality from him before.
Edit: Now that I’ve seen what you think to be true I can address it, Iberia has no more claim on Celtic culture than Ireland because the people that brought that culture to Ireland also brought it to Iberia, it didn’t originate there.
Gaelic is Celtic.
@@kekeke8988 Current, medieval and primitive Gaelic is, yes. Gaelic before that (which we don't know much about minus some words) was not Celtic but I'm reaching back thousands of years so it's self explanatory. I think.
From my understanding, the Celtic culture dominated a good portion of Irish or Pre Celtic people culturally, so much so that there was a huge shift from pre-celt to celt style stuff. Specifically, the Celts that were living in iberia if I recall right.
I was a research assistant, a glorified intern lol. But my researcher always showed us articles that took a study way out of context. A study made a small connection and articles run with it like it's a fact.
the worst are the people who run with those articles as fact and yet will question the integrity of academics the moment they disagree with them
Journalists do that for political reasons.
Archeologists also do stuff for political reasons as well, in fact a lot of these types of professions do.
@@3Kiwiana It's not the academics who are at fault usually, it's the pop sci writers, the newspaper editors and the like, who have zero training in the subject matter and who don't care to get things right. They just want to be read. This is why a lot of researchers refuse to sit for interviews for magazines and so on, because they know how often the words of experts are taken out of context in order to sell lies.
The studies are often not the greatest either if they make small connections in a vacuum. They're more Confirmation bias.
Dude you are without a doubt my favorite youtuberer, historical commentator, and Italian. I am in Irish Celt and since this narritive began they have used the weakest most ludicrous academic theories to discredit the entire possibility that there are in fact a Celtic people at all
Don’t worry, I tell it how it is. That’s my motto. The Irish are Celtic. No serious scholar thinks otherwise. The rest is just politics.
I wonder why someone would want to take that from the celts
It’s literally just zionist jews trying and succeeding at erasing Whites, they do the same to Palestinians also.
@@metatronytwere celtic, now they are like everyone else in the EU, a minority.
Well thank you my friend and keep up the great scholarly work
So we found some bones under a pub parking lot, which probably means they got into a fight because one of them spilled someone’s pint or looked at his gf. And they lost, so quite possibly not even Irish. Maybe they were visiting from England for a flower arranging tournament or a bake off.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My Nan is always fighting in pub car parks so we plan to Bury her under one when she finally loses. As is our tradition
I think their strategy is “if you repeat a lie enough times people will start to believe it as true”
"And we’ve kind of got to tell a lie: we’ll go back into history and there will be black people where, historically, there wouldn’t have been, and we won’t dwell on that. We’ll say, ‘To hell with it, this is the imaginary, better version of the world. By believing in it, we’ll summon it forth."
Yes, these people are evil. They literally want to re-write reality to confirm to what they demand you believe instead.
I think it’s more the equivalent of people posting “first” in the comments section. It makes ignorant people feel clever & intelligent to be the 1st to break news that “shatters the norms”. They’re not as interested in being accurate as they are in being the 1st one to know about a thing that everyone else got wrong for so long. It ends up lying somewhere along the Dunning-Krueger spectrum. They’re parroting things that they think are intelligent because they’re too ignorant to think critically.
@@koobs4549 you've missed the point.
OP is quoting a certain mustache man, because his regime is now alive and well once again: just under a new management that stresses the 'oppression' cough I mean privilege of a certain color based on their appearance and not on their merit.
@@sonofthebearking3335 I’m familiar with the quote & you’re attributing it to the wrong guy. The “mustache man” didn’t say it, it was his head of propaganda, Joseph Goebles who said it. It’s not that I didn’t understand the quote or where it came from, I just disagree with his point for the reasons I stated in my comment.
@@BobT36 There's people trying to rewrite history from all sides, including conservatives. If you truly cared about history and being against propaganda you would criticize all sides and not be biased. Idk if you are. I was speaking in general. For example, some conservatives and some people downplaying, justifying, or glorifying slavery. It's twisted. Brandon F made videos criticizing those people.
Some conservatives also said women were never oppressed in history or now. When the taliban banned women from college. There's people who do honor killings on women and girls for not wearing a hijab. Even in western countries.
Second Thought has a video called America's forgotten socialist history, where some conservatives tried to rewrite socialism out. Such as that MLK was a socialist.
That's like saying Persians weren't Persian genetically at the time of Alexander the Great because their culture had intermixed with the Hellenic one .
Persians were black. Greeks were black. They was all black kangs!
@@gaychampagnesocialist7213you can do without the racist jokes. Maybe people will take your criticisms more seriously then
@@game_boyd1644no actually they deserve to be made fun of. Their rhetoric is dangerous and dehumanizing of any and all white peoples which is one of the steps to genocide
@@gaychampagnesocialist7213oh there were black kangs plenty of them and it’s why you’re not!😊
@@libsoric6693 lol this isn’t true either the Persians are also a multiple ethnic group of Indo-European peoples.
The Irish have legends of the tuatha de danann who are said to be the original kingly fay people who inhabited the island. They receded into the woodlands as the spread of the continental peoples increased and they are directly what many fairy tales and fables are based on. Tolkien himself was heavily influenced by these legends and they resemble his sylvan elves.
Humans cannot live in forests; people go to forests to die. How nice of them to have a genocide tales.
Also there were the Fomorians, enemies of the Tuatha De Danann
So… then… according to Irish legends, the original inhabitants of the island should have *not* been major genetic contributors to modern Irish DNA. If they “receded into the woodlands”, that would indicate a dying ethnic group being supplanted by a new ethnic group…🤔
Oh, I think I read about it from reading about the movie "Secret of Krells". European mythology is underrated. Asian mythology interesr seems more in trend. Foreign Europeans have definitely lost their roots (e.g. Americans).
I think the Firbolgs were there before the Danaan were blown into Ireland by a magic wind.
See, this video is just one more reason why I _love_ *Metatron,* and why I’m so glad that I found his channel! So-called news outlets should always ask themselves, "how would *Metatron* respond to this?" _before_ publishing any article!
100%
Sorry to break the divine Triple-1, but that response earned that right...Everyone should ask themselves that, if you ask Me. Not just the news, but everyone, especially the religious,.
Grandma always said. «I don’t care what they say in school, ancient Irish were black»
me grandmum always said "ah ain't it grand boyo, teh irish were always black. no matter what toughts tey try tah put in yer head at school"
High fives all around 👍💯
I give it 6 months at most before they try such a claim.
I thought I was looking a little darker lately. Turns out I was just in the shade. As soon as I stepped in the light I lit up like a Xmas tree 😂😂
LMFAO
This article is basically making an argument equivalent to claiming American colonists weren't originally European because there were Native Americans who lived in North America before the colonists arrived.
Yes, the article is commiting a logical fallacy.
@@GholaTleilaxu you clearly know nothing about the status of historical research of Irish origins
@@BobHooker What is that status?
@@GholaTleilaxu Primarily 2 main debates: one is a western birth of Celtic culture with a movement east and the other is the other way around. This origin of the 'celts' is open to investigation and the discovery of this DNA evidence is a major piece in the emerging consensus that Celtic culture was not a fixed identity coming from central Europe. There is no evidence at all for a Irish invasion in 500 BC.
Anyone who assumes that Celtic origins are known and that they have been known for 100 years knows nothing about what is known and not known.
@@BobHooker I don't think anyone is arguing that the Celts had a single united identity anymore than the Italic peoples did or the Germanic people.
The biggest lesson I learned in doing an Archaeology degree is that the past is always used to justify the present.
This is a problem many agendas have in common.
@@KALSKingdomYeah, but It shouldn't be used to spread false narratives.
@@KALSKingdomusing it to justify present injustices is what he means.
@@KALSKingdomEssentially, to use the past ( without being educated of it ) to justify the present is dangerous because misunderstanding the past and then trying to apply this lack of understanding to whatever it is youre trying to justify, youre not only incorrect, but spreading misinformation which is also detrimental, makes it possible people pick up the uninformed perspective because justifying ones way of living is far easier than reevaluating how we see things and acting accordingly. Its not that using the past is bad, using the past when you dont actually understand, which the average person doesnt, can be bad. Not inherently as you stated, but itd be far more common. 3:49
@@KALSKingdomIt isn't inherently bad, but here you can really see the agenda of negating the native european people's history to justify the multicultural and ethnic world. Especially with a nation as clear cut about culture and history as the Irish. Now that goal could be good or bad, or in between, that's on the reader's opinion. What matters is we are not fed facts by our media, we are fed pre-made opinions.
as an Irish person myself I am very proud to be Celtic
As a celt, I'm very proud to be Irish .
I'm a descendant of irish immigrants, and I'm trying to study Celtic culture in my spare time.
Maithú
As a proud Irish man, this had my interest too. You did a great job illustrating the Celtic culture in our country.
Can you start posting more FE videos again
When you said "irish man", did you mean an actual irish living in ireland, or just a yank pretending to be one just because his great great great grandpa was irish?
@@LelakiKerdus Yes I'm actually Irish, living on the island of Ireland and speak Gaelic.
@@IrishTechnicalThinker
Then there's no problem 😎👌
@@LelakiKerdus Were you genuinely going to let it bother you if he gave you an answer you didn't like? Because if so then you must be real fun at parties.
"It turns out that skeletons from the period of the Aztec empire are related to modern-day Mexicans, therefore modern-day Mexicans cannot descend from Spanish immigrants!"
Indigenous Mexican people are a thing, just like Indigenous north Americans.
No because Celtic is a meaningless term and incorrect to begin with - at least in the context it is being used here! It’s actually offensive to call Welsh ‘Celtic’... the original peoples of these islands are not Celtic - it is NOT a culture shared with the continent... that came later into Ireland when the Gaels invaded what later became Scotland...
@@dannyboywhaa3146 What?
Also Gael doesn't invade Ireland, instead they only steady migrate to Ireland until they outnumber ancient people who build Newgrange and absorb them into Gaelic population
No invasion, just steady of migration that build up steady population of Gaels
I am Irish here and also Modern Welsh are celtic now as they are descendant of Britons who been force to place that became Wale by Angol-Saxon
@@tiglishnobody8750 no the Kingdom of Gywnd was always Welsh... the Cornish, Welsh, Cumbrians and Bretons are not Celtic originally - far older language group.
You should read history before you ranting
Irish aren't call Celtic either yet we are in categories as Celtic
Also Kingdom of Gywnd rise after Roman left and you can guess, they are Brtion and Brtion are celts
You should understand what celt and history is. :/@@dannyboywhaa3146
Is it not also possible the skeletons they found were of a different people all together??
Maybe some traders, merchants, or just travelers who happened to die there and were buried??
Maybe these bones didn't belong to ANY permanent inhabitants of Ireland.
This here, this is one of the problems with modern science, the hubris of assuming they've already connected all of the dots.
But I guess the genetic makeup of the skeletons are in line with other skeletons from the area - and from all Europe from that time. There is nothing new about the fact that before the indo-european speaking people arrived there were farmers from the Mediterrain area living all over the continent.
@@soulsmith792 REEEEEEE!!!!! Are you saying that you don't trust "The Science"???????
@@soulsmith792 Honestly this whole situation stinks of someone trying to sell a book or gain uni cred for a "axiom changing" discovery, it stinks of a retired professor counting his days and asking himself what he didin his life
@@DracoDatura people in southern ireland are actually very tan/olive skinned and resemble southern italians quite a bit...
Being Scots-Irish, I wonder why do so many like to try to prove that we are not Celtic peoples? Thank you, Metatron for debunking this nonsense.
What is wrong with being descended from Celtic Peoples. My ancestry is Irish as far as I can tell, and because of this, Celtic as far as I can tell, and I have always, taken pride in this. Celtic culture is so rich and beautiful. Brutal in ancient times, but rich and beautiful as well. That being said; I could not speak a word of Gaelic if my life depended on it. I have a thoroughly, Anglicized tongue.
@@ivanj.conway9919 I'd like the answer to that myself. What a lot of English do not know or prefer to forget-take your pick-is that they also descend from Celtic tribes, such as the Iceni, the Briganti, etc. I'm proud of my Celtic heritage even if I speak no Gaelic.
Six nations, one soul!
@@harrietharlow9929 : Hey, so are you First Nations as well? I'm Canadian so this is what we call Native American People. Well, everyone that lived in all of North America before the Europeans came here. I actually, prefer this term over Native Americans as I feel it more accurately describe the people that were here before we were, even if, maybe, it was coined by the white people in Canada, rather than the natives themselves. Actually, I'm not sure WHERE, it came from but I prefer it over Native American anyway. So you are part Celtic and part First Nations as well. Wow, wild. From what I understand Darling, and that understanding is limited to say the least; there are many similarities between Ancient Celtic Culture and First Nations Culture before European peoples came here. Maybe if Ancient Celts had come here instead of later Europeans, First Nations Culture would not have been destroyed to the same degree if at all, has we have seen happen over the past 500 plus years, regardless. Being white and of European ancestry myself; I am so, so, very sorry for everything my fore bearers did, and most certainly, do not support it at all, anymore than I support our attitude towards First Nations Peoples today.
I guess, many English wish to distance themselves from this, because maybe, they erroneously, believe that they are descended from something better, as my understanding of Ancient Celtic Culture is that sadly, it was pretty, damn, brutal. But you take the bad with the good and learn from all of it, I guess. Despite that, the Ancient Celts created WONDROUS, beauty in their singing, and art and so forth, and even, in their language itself, which we can all take pride in. Interestingly enough though, Korean sounds very similar to Celtic. If you have ever, heard it spoken or sung you will detect the same lyrical quality to it. I love Korean singing, I find it absolutely, enchanting. I'm sure there are many First Nations languages that have a similar quality to them, as well.
Much Love and Warmest Wishes. Be Well and Safe. Out. 🙂🖐🏼😌
@@ivanj.conway9919 I have some Choctaw.
@@harrietharlow9929 : Well Darling, you can take pride in all of it. I wish I knew my heritage so well.
"Discovery of bones under Dublin KFC branch proves Irish are actually descended from chicken."
Wouldn't be surprised if they went with something like that next.
I didn’t know they used chickens in KFC. I thought they used some sort of large rodent or lizard or something.
🤣🤣🤣
@@jeremypnetThat's Korean Fried BBQ. Easy mistake since they're only one letter off lol
Please don't give them the idea
😂😂😂😂BOY, u too much
At this rate you could almost have a second channel,
'Reacting to cretins'
Just a playlist would work as well.
Definitely need to get more iodine into the public's diet. 😂
😂
Stop hating on the advanced Minoans from Crete.
@@mrbaab5932 Who's mentioning them?
“Celtic 'is a magic bag, into which anything may be put, and out of which almost anything may come... Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason.” ― J. R. R. Tolkien
Excellent quote for the situation!
Brilliant quote and from the master author himself, no less.👍
Aye , well...
@@loairn The greeks referred to all those populations North of the Balkans as 'kelto'i which translates as hidden or unknown ..
It would have included the people we now know (thanks to the romans) as Germanic, Galĺic Slavic ..
@@loairn Roman name for Ireland was Hibernia, they were well aware of its existence and even annex it (just forgot to actually send armies to take control of the place).
Now the Roman name for the Irish raiders was Scotii, this actually lead for Ireland being known until the Middle Ages as Scotia and the Irish as Scoti, honstly this is a complex subject and ultimately irrelevant in the end because we are very aware of who lived in Ireland at that time and they werent Afro-Americans ...
These skeletons may have been visitors or even slaves. Who says they were even native Irish? Thanks for your videos. Really enjoy them
Because they were under the ground in Ireland, duh. These people said the same shit about Africans in Egypt despite them being bordering groups so who fuckin knows
Great video. As an historian, and genealogist for my family, I run into the whole parroting of bad information frequently. Usually it's different people with the same old stories repeated over and over again... and when you get to the bottom of it, they used the same bad source. I call it "sloppy copy". It can be truly tiresome to go over the same thing again and again, only to hear, "well, it doesn't matter anyway, because what can we really know about the past?" When that happens I have to restrain myself from strangling people with primary source documents.
Can I ask why the indefinite article before historian gets a n on the end. Shouldn't it be 'a' historian? Like a hand, a hat or a high five? I see 'an historian' everywhere and it's grammatically incorrect to me. Even my phone is telling me to correct it.
@@alexandermendez4653 It's a regional thing, possibly British? Some people do it and some don't. Depends on your accent and how strongly you aspirate the H, I guess.
And then you have people showing you a primary source that is just propaganda but they take it at face value
@@jayoungrit is absolutely NOT a British thing 😂 normally basic grammatical errors like that are non English speakers making a mistake or americans.
@@harlequinems I see it all over the place to the point that I don't think it's in error.
There is way too little actual journalism today. Sometimes these news outlets should be treated as a crime scene themselves.
They are mostly activists masquerading as journalists. They all have an agenda and that agenda has very little to do with truth.
It's churnalism.
Also there's a hidden comment here.
@@TechnoMinarchist it's mine
It is all about profit these days and they often hire the cheapest, person or get unpaid/poorly paid interns to write these article.
"In Ireland you've got more pubs than you have homes!" - Metatron
"That's offensive!" - Someone who isn't Irish
"It's offensive there isn't more." - Someone who is Irish
the Irish people were reached out to for comment,
None were sober enough to consent to an interview.
@@SockieTheSockPuppetI thought pub was the irish word for home.
@@SockieTheSockPuppet Thank you! I grew up in an Irish neighborhood in BKLYN. And when I did in fact visit Ireland about 10 years ago, it was just as if I was back home (and I'm Greek now living in Greece). The only difference was that the Liffey ran through the middle of Dublin instead of the Hudson that ran at the edge of BKLYN (just two blocks away). And of course, the amazing live music (like the violin 🎻). Was amazing! And, I must add, the driving on the other side. I tried to enter the cab on the right-hand side and the cabbie who was waiting otiside, exclaimed "you want to drive?"
I think that was a joke about stereotypes...
Articles like these always give me hope. I hope I can be a historian of sorts someday so it's good to see how low the bar is set
The bar is only set that low if you are one of "them"
It is also important to remember the sample size. Three people are not enough to establish an ethnicity. Ireland has experienced several waves of setelment. Picts, Celts , Norse and Anglos are all part of the Irish genetic heritage.
Well yeah, like most lands and peoples, they are a mixed people genetically. With that said, there are certain halogroups and genetic patterns that predominate there.
@@justinw1765 Actually, he majority of cultures and groups were quite homogeneous back then; a few mixed outliers will not change that.
@@wisedragon173 when your land has been invaded multiple times by various other ethnic groups such as stated in the original comment, I don't think "mixed outliers" would apply anymore and best believe in ancient times there was a lot of invading going on, how do you think that almost all of East Asia, Central Asia, and Eastern Europe ended up with mongol DNA with many even being related to Temujin AKA Ghengis Khan himself?
@@wisedragon173 I agree with what Cyborgchicken wrote.
Will point out that some groups were less mixed than others though. Scandinavians were generally less mixed, because there weren't too many other groups trying to invade their lands (though I think there was a Slavic group that did from time to time). However, they did bring back Celtic and other ethnic group folks, from when they would go raiding other lands and peoples, so there was some mixing going on.
There was a while when the Jewish Hebrews really tried to avoid intermarriage with other groups because of some of the teachings in the Talmud which specifically forbade intermarriage with the "gentiles". But even then, not all Jews held as much to the Talmud--some considered the Torah much more important.
Destabilizing the sense of national identity in Ireland might be strategic in the near future for absolutely no reason I can imagine.
@guyledouche5812you're on the ball with this lad. Wanna go after all whites
It surely is political, but I don’t do politics, I just tell it how it is, so message disrupted I guess ;)
Shut it down!
time for more migrants
@guyledouche5812show us where Jews are behind this
Thank you for this. There has been what seems to be a concerted effort over the last 10- 15 years in academia and the media in Ireland to dilute what it is to be Irish. With multiple attempts to re-write Irish history.
Funny how it dovetails with the usual suspects' attack on race generally, and white identity specifically.
and it all sounds suspicious.
These liberal leftist scholars went after the English first, and now they are turning on the Irish, who have already been subjugated by the English and have been denied the right to practice their cultural heritage for a long time. In an effort to "dismantle the... myths" of English nationalism, Cambridge University is teaching students that the Anglo-Saxons never existed as a distinct ethnic group. Liberal academics have long been critical of the term's link with "whiteness."
"...claimed that the study of Anglo-Saxon history is fraught with "inherent whiteness".
So, the fact that the Anglo-Saxons were white is too much for liberal academics to bear. As a result, these intellectuals decided that the Anglo-Saxons are not allowed to exist and have to go. Nonetheless, many self-proclaimed educated and intellectual people fell for it, swallowing this nonsensical reasoning, mindlessly repeating it, and informing the English that they are not Anglo-Saxons.
@@arthurpendragon8192very (((suspicious)))
For your edification, my white brothers, and to join with the evidence already assembled over decades and even centuries, evidence from twin studies, expat data, IQ data, adoption data, crime statistics, socioeconomic data etc., I recommend these compilations of recent discoveries from the human genome project:
'A Troublesome Inheritance' by Nicholas Wade
'Human Diversity' by Charles Murray
They propagandized the West into believing whites don't exist and race is irrelevant so they could destroy the West and forever dominate the world via banking and media. You know who.
As to pubs in Ireland, I can attest that while visiting Dingle, the hardware store and the shoe store both had Guinness on tap. Moreover, the hardware “store” was a pub on one side of the room, and something like a cluttered (unattended) garage workbench on the other. It was fantastic.
When I was growing up and when I was a teenager those kind of pubs were normal in Ireland . they were always family run and were local hubs of business and information . They usually had a different kind of licence called a six day licence as opposed to a seven day licence and were always posted on a sign over the door.
A hardware store with guinness on tap? Sounds like my kinda shopping experience
I cracked up at the colors and microphone analogy. I need to remember that one. You’re dead on target again with this video. It may seem like all you efforts are thrown away by the willfully stupid masses, but they’re not without meaning. Don’t stop doing what you do, it’s refreshing and informative!
My father's Grandmother (who married a french man and is a story for another day) was an Irish woman.... If she was still alive today, i dont think the publishers of this article would deny her Gaelic culture for very long 😂 she taught my father to speak the old Irish when he was a young child, and i remember him and my Grandfather both saying that she was willing to fight anyone who insulted her heritage.... And this would have done it 😂😂😂
So she's basically proud of her ancestors being raped by Celtic invaders. A way to go.
What has Gaelic got to do with Celts?
@@nicktecky55 Gaelic is a collection of language types that belong to the tribes and villages of the Celtic peoples. Wasnt you paying attention?
@@nicktecky55 *facepalm*
There’s becoming less TH-camrs who do detailed content with structured arguments that are beyond just 10 minutes. Thank you Metatron, may your content survive the attention span decrease of the next generation.
It's because TH-cam desperately wants to be tiktok, so they are actively punishing content creators who produce quality video by not pushing their channels 😒
There's objectively more than ever before you just aren't looking in the right places and it's confirmation bias
@@nietzchepreacher9477 I have a feeling though long content will be on the decline due to the push for fast pace consumption content. Attention spans of the next generation are getting shorter from short content. It’s best we identify and perhaps exaggerate the problem to get the point across.
True, but it's not just about the attention span. It's about people not being able to think coherently.
Up till two decades ago, most of the internet was textual. You had to read a lot. You had to write on forums and email lists. Then broadband speeds made the internet audio-visual.
Today a lot of people act like illiterates when it comes to digesting or writing text, and can't even understand arguments in audiovisual format anymore.
If only, the Irish mythology hadn’t idk had a creation story that was 7 invasions of 7 different cultures. I mean imagine my shock to digging up Fir Blog bones and be upset that they weren’t Sons of Mill bones….
Shout out to Lugh Lámhada, the best God ever.
Problem is that some people dismiss the book of invasions since it was written by Christians.There IS a chance that there were multiple migrations that inspired the stories in the Book of Invasions. I mean look at the Native Americans, we have evidence of several different migrations but most people think all Native Americans came from the beiring strait.
@@tempestvenator9809 It was _written down_ by Christians, based on much older oral traditions. Exactly how accurately it recorded those traditions is anybody's guess.
Exactly. Glad to see you know Irish mythology 👍
@@brucetucker4847 Yeah that do be the clincher. Everybody is assuming a Christian bias (as if modern historians aren't already biased) so they tend to get all huffy and claim we will never know the true Irish mythology.... when oral traditions DO change and what the Christians put down on paper may have been what they got from the oral speakers of that time since the Christians were one of the few groups who actually bothered to write stuff down.
When I went to Ireland i visited a post office and it had a side door that led to a pub😂
Gotta love the Irish.
Gotta love the Irish indeed ☘️
@@metatronyt And their pubs.
@@Halbared Their pubs are amazing, Always packed, Full of the most interesting characters totally marinated in Guinness, Irish folk songs, They're just the best. I also find the accent quite sexy on a woman. The traditional old men also carry walking sticks which are used as weapons but i forget what their called now and I'd probably spell it wrong.
A truly superb people.
@@JustDaniel6764
Shillelagh, if I'm not mistaken.
@@wiederganger1959 Yes, Thats it. Spot on 👍
Thanks for discussing this. My ancestry is primarily Irish, Scottish, and English so I really enjoy learning about the culture and history of both sides of the Irish Sea.
From what I've read, some academics and media have been on a recent trend of deconstructionism lately at any cost. Similar to your recent discussions regarding Egypt and Cleopatra. I'm always really thrilled to see you standing for historical accuracy. Thanks for the great content as always, Raf!
Ya know what’s really sad?
People don’t do real fact checking the way they’re supposed to. They just take a Google search for its word don’t even bother to verify the validity of what’s posted. This is one of many reasons why there’s so much falsehoods out here and very few who call it out.
It is terrible... a great example was looking up EULAs, some sites say they are legally binding. Most say they are not. Or look up Hinduism. You can find articles that say they are monotheistic and some say polytheistic. Kind of hard to figure out when half the articles out there are in direct conflict with each are.
This video itself is a great example of that - the Irish are not actually Celtic, but this host keeps repeating that.
@@jboss1073 watch the video and try again, since you won’t I’ll paraphrase. BEING CELTIC ISN’T GENETIC IT’S CULTURAL and yes, we most certainly are Celtic. When you’ve studied Irish history for 15 years then maybe I’ll listen to you but I’m guessing you’d also say Cleopatra was black right? Or maybe your the type to say that there was such a thing as the Moroccan Empire which spanned through into America. You complain about people not doing their research yet you come in here and say words that you want to be believed with NO evidence to back it. Show your evidence. I’ll wait.
@@IrishColin The video is not the boss of nature. In nature there are different peoples who name themselves different names. The Irish and Scottish never named themselves Celts in ancient times - the ancestors of the Portuguese did.
The video dispels the myth that the Irish are Celts, which they are not. That is a Victorian and Romanticist view which comes from Nordicism.
I would never say Cleopatra was black. She was of an Amazigh ethnicity. There was no Moroccan Empire in America.
I have plenty of evidence to show you if you want. Have you read Ancient Britons and the Antiquarian Imagination by Stuart Piggott where an academic first debunked this Victorian romanticist notion that British Islanders and Irish are Celts? What about its academic successor The Atlantic Celts - Ancient People or Modern Invention by Simon James, have you read that important work? Or how about The Celts - Origins, Myths and Inventions, by John Collis - a pivotal work for this discussion - have you read it? Do you know Patrick Sims-Williams is a Celtosceptic (meaning he rejects that the Irish are Celts) and he is the current President of the International Congress for Celtic Studies which regulates ALL academic Celtic Studies degrees? Did you know any of that and are you sure you are equipped to have this discussion?
What do you really need me to cite for you specifically that you don't already know, assuming you're familiar with the few works I've cited?
@@IrishColin By the way here is a prefect response for your attitude, by another person who agrees with me:
@kekeke8988
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@jboss1073
Then Somalis born in Sweden are true Norseman by Metatron's logic if only culture matters.
I'm surprised he's against blackwashing.
By the same token, Afro-British are just as Anglo-Saxon as everyone else.
What's his issue with Englishmen representing English historical figures?
You are defending the same "we can be Celts because culturally we're Celts" that the leftists defend in order to call Somali people "Swedish".
My grandfather comes from Ireland. If I were to send this video to him, I am sure he would love it. I do too. You're speaking the facts, without the cringey historical revisionism.
Great video! One aspect of the several migrations of people to the British Isles I recently found is that it's possible that the last land bridge between the islands and the continent didn't sink until 350 BC!
Actually, in Gaul, one small village still held out against the invaders.
awesome asterix, obelix, and getafix ahh good days
And love eating sanglier 🐗🐗🐗
I understood that reference
Un petit village gaulois entouré de camps romains. Ils sont fous ces journalistes ! *toc toc toc*
I came here to write almost the same thing. I grew up on those historical documents.
This is a topic that was interesting to me when I started trying to learn the Gaelic language. I always thought that the Celts were a unique ethnic group, only to find out that saying "Celtic" was more in line with saying "American". The Celts were so ethnically diverse as they spread across almost the entirety of Europe that not only is there no specific ethnic group for the Celts, there's barely a single cohesive cultural group for the Celts. The Celts of Scotland varied greatly from the Celts of Eastern Europe or France in terms of their religious and cultural practices.
It's one of the reasons why J.R.R. Tolkien completely left Celtic language and mythology out of LotR. He was frustrated over how fragmented and incoherent Celtic mythology was that he just ignored ALL of it, even though it played a huge part in the development of English culture.
"It's one of the reasons why J.R.R. Tolkien completely left Celtic language and mythology out of LotR. He was frustrated over how fragmented and incoherent Celtic mythology was that he just ignored ALL of it, even though it played a huge part in the development of English culture."
I'm going to debate this, as there are a few elements in The Hobbit & LOTR that clearly show an influence from either fairy or Arthurian legends, both of which are pretty hard to isolate from Celtic influence. In the case of Arthurian legend, it's hard to separate out b/c it was home grown in Britain, & generally theorized to have been inspired by shenanigans of an IRL Celtic warlord. In the case of the fairy stories... well we can see analogous legends & creatures down thru France & Spain... the common cultural heritage there being Celtic.
These elements would include:
* Hobbits - with a name derived from Hobs, a helpful house fairy, & with a lifestyle not in line with any Norse mythological creature
* the goblins from the Hobbit, which were subsumed in LOTR into the greater category of Orc... but Hobbit predates LOTR. Clear influence from George MacDonald & the 'color' fairy books... although obviously connectable to the kobolds, dark elves, etc. of Norse myth as well
* Aragorn's whole story just reeks of Arthurian influence rather than a Norse hero's tale, ala Beowulf or Siegfrid
* the whole blessed islands home of the elves / afterlife for Frodo to emo out in is basically Avalon - so Arthurian
* and of course, Tom Bombadil, more reminiscent of Robin Goodfellow or a Greenman than Loki.
Mind, I'll buy that he may have pivoted with LOTR away from the Celtic influences, because it was a right mess... but clearly they were involved in the sausage making at some point & not fully excised.
And I thought it was because the devil gave up trying to learn Gaelic after needed 20 years to learn how to say, “No,” in Basque! 😅😂
Well we have no survival of scottish celtic religion and limited info to go off for most of the celts to you actually have no way of saying that the had no cohesion that's literally just an opinion.. you're literally no better than the disingenuous articles.
That's really not the case at all, Irish and British Celts shared extremely similar religious and cultural practices to the Gauls of France to the point we have accounts of pilgrimages to France from Britain and young Gallic men travelling to Ireland to be trained as druids, our gods are almost the same and our mythology is almost identical. Also JRR Tolkien did include Celtic mythology in LOTR, heaps of it. He didn't include Celtic languages, apart from some Welsh in Sindarin, because he hated the Irish language because he didn't like how it sounded.
How exactly did Celtic myth play a huge part in the development of English culture beyond the Medieval popularity of the fantasy of King Arthur? John Barleycorn is thought to be a representation of Beowa ( an old English agricultural figure/deity) which is Germanic, Beowulf is Germanic thought to be written in England and not brought of with Norse 'North Germanic' settlers. Sam Newton gives good case for it being an Anglo-Saxon tale and its origination in East Anglia before the Viking settlements. Some have linked Beowa to Beowulf, but Beowulf is made of two words Beo 'bee' and wulf 'wolf' this Bee-wolf, a kenning for bear.
The Maypole is primarily found in Germanic areas of Europe so that probably is relic of Anglo-Saxon culture in Britain. Considering there was a 70 percent replacement on the east coast of Britain by Germanic incomers I doubt there was much influence by Celtic culture. See a 2022 study... Now what did have a big impact was Christianity spread by monks from Ireland.
As a fellow historian, I salute you sir! Salve!
The funny thing is that the bones discussed were found in County Antrim, which was the last county to be majority Irish speaking, if that isn’t an extra bit of irony then I don’t know what is
Thank you for always being level headed and thoughtful and deeply cynical. Your exposure of the myth of salting the earth in Carthage has blown my mind since I learned it. I've passed that one along to several other people. Well done with this too.
My pleasure and thanks for watching. More to come
As an Irish descendant - thank you for clearing this up 🙂
Keep in mind many hate the Irish, especially Brits and Jews
Three skeletons does not mean the Irish people aren't Celts. They could have been shipwrecked, early explorers, visitors. Many explanations. Leaping to conclusions is getting to be common now.
Or even slaves that shit was done everywhere in the world
But nobody sailed anywhere until Columbus sailed the ocean blue...
Agreed, its all part of this new woke multicultural narrative.
Metatron's point was that it wouldn't have mattered if the tested skeletons were fully representative of Ireland's early population. Being celtic is a cultural thing not a genetic one. It'd be like saying people in ancient Norway weren't Norse/Scandinavian because they didn't have Norse DNA.
A similar misinformation but in reverse happens for the Incan and Mayan people. People commonly believe all of the people died out or disappeared but that's not what happened. They interbred with the Spanish colonizers and their culture was gradually overwritten by Spanish culture. DNA tests in Mexico and many central American nations still find lots of Aztec, Incan, and Mayan DNA present in the population. There is still a bit of mystery into the speed that cultural upheaval happened under but it's not the "this civilization died overnight" claim articles often claim.
Wrong. the world started in 1776. There was nothing before
Some of my favorite videos are the ones that debunk stupidity.
The sad thing is that, as you mentioned, now there will be lots of articles which all stem from this one and give this idea unearned and undeserved credibility.
I'm at 4:05 and I'm already screaming: THANK YOU! I had this argument so many times... DNA vs culture. As non university educated guy, atleast not educated enough to be sure about his understanding of the matter, this was great boost to my confidence.
It's just annoying to meet Czechs, who believe they are not slavs even though they can talk to you only by a slavic language. And it's all because of these stupid articles about DNA, which most of the time doesn't even say what then they claim.
I don't want to shake your confidence my friend but just because a professor of archeology put his name to something outside his field of expertise doesn't devalue a University education, this was a University education correcting an untruth given by another, it happens all the time.
What this article should've done is consult an anthropologist, as the Celts are as Raf says a cultural group not a particular genetic make up, so can't be separated by a genetic study especially such a small number of them
@@hiddenhydewithinhim I am also from czech rep, I don't think you can deny that, but say for example I have ancestors from Germany and Austria from my dad's side, I don't have to use the slavic language at all, only with the bare minimum because I live here for now. But just because I was born here, and I do speak the language, does it mean I have to embrace the slavic culture as my own? No.
@valandil7454 I know, but man, leave me happy atleast a day. Debate about whether haplogroup R1a(in words of my opposition ''THE SLAVIC BLOOD'') is the only single good indicator to determine slavs, while I've been literaly booed on this matter by everyone was one of final nails into the coffin of my FB profile as I almost lost all hope in people, me and the universe. This video really helped me on deeper level to not feel either intelectualy isolated or as a complete idiot. :D
@@lopolik no, I didn't say that. There are two problems I have... if person is born Czech, without any other stronger relationship to another country, knows only Czech, is unwilling to learn any other language, but still claims he ain't slav, those are the people I'm pointing finger at, which I believed I made clear by ''even though they can talk to you only by a slavic language''. With these I've got problem. The other problem is when this person claims Czechs as a whole ain't slavs, because some article based on one of hundreds other differently ending researchs says we are R1b more than R1a, which as I said is different result with every research. And it doesn't matter, because even if we are just bunch of germans who were in 18th/19th century reeducated to Czech culture(which also ain't exatly true, right? even though people would claim it till end of days) we are today still speaking by the f** slavic language. I would expect from these city kids of no knowledge in traditional customs of country to atleast prove their point by showing me some of their deutsche, but that never happens, because they don't understand being slav as cultural thing, but as a blood thing and since this Blesk article tells them their blood ain't slavic, they ain't slavic. And in the end they can be whatever they want, even Clingons, I don't care, but they should stop telling me I'm not slav, because I don't know how they, but I only with Czech can visit any country they claim to be slavic and speak there pretty fine with my native lan.
Do Mongolians have Mongolian culture?
Do Mongolians have Maori DNA? Or do they have Mongolian DNA?
Thanks!
Welcome!
I was born in Ireland and had a discussion with a professor of Irish history who married into the family. He agreed with what you were saying but asked me to not discount the Viking input to our genetics. I am a carrier for Haemochromatosis and passed it on to my son, its common amongst the Irish and those with Irish ancestors.
Yep!
Got it too
I am descednant of Norman but my father side is also Gaelic and yet I born and raise in Ireland so I am Irish
Blood aren't everything to make Irish as heck I am 1/4 French by genetic yet I never speak French or even understand France more than what Irish can general know
The Irish are not Celtic, my friend. No ancient historian ever called them Celts. They were known as Hibernians.
@@jboss1073 Well me as Irish you got wrong
We use term Gael and it just mean Celtic and we are celtic as heck it even mention almost everywhere in Irish media
Dude, fantastic explanation, as always. Not only you adresed a subject that was causing the spread of "fake news", as you explained for us that cannot understand properly the talking of professors and scientists what were the discoveries that they've made and how important they (really) are, not only in this case but in all the others. Thank you for the fantastic lesson.
There were several waves of migration into Britain and Ireland from 14kya until about 1kya, with the Celts being just one group.
While I know it will upset some Irish nationalists, it really is fair to call them the British Isles and treat them as a single geographical region, precisely because of the regular waves of migration you talk about both from outside and within.
(If you have a better alternative name, I'm all ears...)
@@edwardcullen1739The British Isles is the accepted name for Britain and Ireland geographically, I haven’t met a person it upsets yet and I’m from the South, so practically everyone you meet is for the Republic.
@@Seanain_O_hEarchai Me as Irish, many Irish far as I remember doesn't really accept this terms and even in some Map book just call Irish-Britsh or British-Irish Isle depend you call
@@tiglishnobody8750 Really? I’ve personally never met anyone who doesn’t like it but maybe it varies. What County are you from?
No, the Celts were several groups.
There were at the very least two very distinct introductions of Celtic in Britain and Ireland, one introducing Q-Celtic and one introducing P-Celtic.
Most people only focus on the last migration, the P-Celtic one, but the first introduction, (which might have not been a migration at all and actually simply a linguistic shift) is very often ignored.
Yeah Celts! I am a proud Irish Celt and celebrate my Irish heritage. And yes, there does seem to be more pubs than houses in Ireland. - Kathy W
I am fascinated by this wave of arrogance in trying to discredit or outright deny an entire cultural heritage of a people using information based on assumptions rather than actual facts.
They went to marxist school, that is why
What cultural heritage? The Irish have only been incorrectly called "Celts" since the 16th century. Certainly no ancient Roman or Greek ever called them Celts, so again - what heritage?
@@jboss1073 I’m confused. Are you saying the Gaelic peoples aren’t a Celtic sub-group?
@@Seanain_O_hEarchai Yes. Gaelic people have nothing "Celtic" about their history. Their languages only started being called Celtic in the 17th century and only by a minority of scholars. John Collis, current Celtic Scholar, points out that languages are named after people, not the other way around. Hence Scottish and Irish cannot be called Celts even if they speak a so-called "Celtic Langauge" just like the Romans did not call themselves "Latini" for speaking Latin, they called themselves Romans after the place they came from, not the language they spoke, and the languages from the Romans today are called Romance, and their speakers today are not called Roman, so just the same Celtic speakers cannot be called "Celts".
Irish people are Hibernians and speakers of Hibernian and Scottish people are Caledonians and speakers of Caledonian. The name "Celt" is not a part of the history of those peoples.
@@jboss1073 But isn’t Celt more of a cultural grouping? The Priteni are often considered the original Celts on the Isle and their language and culture is derived from the same Proto-Celtic as the Iberians and Gauls, hence the relationship
(Rubs hands together)
Oy!
Exactly every single time
@@Mik3xcellence really now? Sometimes I clap mine together while laughing out loud, and other times I stroke my beard and wait
@@ryan.1990 Vey!
Open borders for thee but not for me
I don't know what the statute of limitations for murder is in the UK, but I think the police should have investigated even though it was 2000 years ago because the perpetrator may be dead by now, but there is also a possibility that it was The Highlander. There can be only one.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here we are
Born to do killings
Assassins of the universe 🎶
😅😂 - But wasn’t the Highlander from the Scottish Highlands?!?
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@@TraditionalAnglican Yes. But he traveled all over the world in order to kill other "immortals".
My DNA test showed markers in the haplogroup that first occupied Ireland going back at least 6000 years BCE. The marker bounced back and forth between Ireland and Scotland, then completely vanished the Isles around 1000 CE, suddenly re-appearing in Norway. To this day the area is named after my relative's farm, which is still operating. Their local stave church kept decent records, and I was able to find entries of my relatives as early as 1298.
Ydna I2 ?
You are not your ancestors
@@branthomas1621 We used the 'Human Genome Project' NatGeo service back before they sold it off to AncestryDNA.
It was a Helix co-branded kit, no longer available.
The Helix kit was far more detailed. They did give us a subscription to AncestryDNA after the sale, but it doesn't go into details as the original did.
@@branthomas1621 Sorry, they sold it off to MyHeritage, not Ancestry...
I got R-M153
Brilliant video, thank you! I've never actually studied Celts and thus was also having the wrong impression that it's more an ethnic group rather than cultural. But you've made a perfect sense. I wonder if the same is true for the Scandinavians, who are considered to be Germanic people (with obvious cultural and linguistic ties to the continent), but likely incorporate DNA of pre-Germanic inhabitants too.
Thankyou for explaining this simply. I had a hard time trying to articulate this issue. 🙏⭐
My pleasure and thank you for watching
As someone with many Irish Relatives, I'm so glad that you are willing to stand up for the true unadulterated history of Ireland. Too often is Historical revisionism tolerated or even encouraged by the mainstream Media and Hollywood. Seeing someone like you who stands for truth above Profit is amazing.
Its the agenda thats the problem.I am irish while my identity is not predicated on how celtic we are ,i still think there is a clear agenda to water down native irish ethnicity to fit in with diversty ,multiculturalism and inclusion.
Do tell me about the dastardly Hollywood revisionist history of * checks notes * Ireland😂.
Omfg they literally described the bones as very possibly the Milesians, which were already claimed to be part of Irish ancestry all the way back in The Book of Invasions.
When did they say that they were northern Iberians (where the family of the Mil/Champion came from, before “invading” Ireland)?
Thank you so much for mentioning the Cornish as many people over look us.
Nevertheless, there is a Celtic gene but as you say, it is not 100% needed for the Celtic culture to exist there, but all the Celtic nations have the same ancestry, although it can vary from its sources. For example, many people said that the Irish were not the same as the British Celtic people because the Irish actually came from Spain, and therefore were not Celts. However, what they failed to realise, was when the first great Celtic migration went west, a large group travelled south and headed towards North Spain, which is now Galicia (one of the Celtic Nations). Some settled in the northern hemisphere of Spain, while surprisingly others started travelling by ship or boat north towards Ireland.
Whereas other Celts went west through Gaul and then Northwest into Britain. In reality, the same amount of countries are traveled to get to Ireland. Some had a cross Gaul and Britain, whereas others had to go across Gaul and Spain to Ireland.
Not only Galicia, in certain parts of Catalonia and Occitania they even became the majority for a while, however the already existing culture was more powerful so they didn't make as big as an impact as in some other places.
@@Lii170 oh I know, but nevertheless, in small pockets, the Celtic culture still does endure.
You seem to have misunderstood the whole point of this video. Celtic is a cultural style, not a race. It's nothing to do with genes or ancestry and everything to do with politics and cultural beliefs and priorities.
English people with genes that come from Africans transported as slaves to the Carribbean are English - despite their genes.
Englishness is cultural not genetic. Just as Celtic is cultural not genetic.
@@AndyJarman you’re right it doesn’t necessarily have to rely on genes but nevertheless there is Celtic genes because when they did DNA tests on Britannic Celtic peoples and the English which were Saxons, they discovered the genes were not closely related at all. You are right the Celtic people were a culture, but also there was genetic identity’s as well. The group will often be genetic and cultural together, and by removing the identity of one can often erode the other.
Nationality can wear many hats. The people who arrived in England from African and asian countries are considered part of the nation today, but they are not connected to the historical origins.
For example, if someone was doing a dark age, Arthurian story, they would not put Asian or African individuals into it.
3 bodies (Skeletal remains) does not a nation make. D'oh!!! 🤯
I think Lepontic is the oldest Celtic language, based on inscription evidence, and it is P-Celtic. Also, Welsh has far more everyday speakers than Irish. It is much more of a living language that has been in continuous use for thousands of years. It's also the only Celtic language that is not endangered.
Oldest Celtic language is Lusitanian, as shown by its retention of the initial-P.
Ireland has far more Irish-only speakers. Good luck finding a non english speaking welshman
@mandowarrior123 It's bad to be multilingual?
@@ProleCenter Don't listen to jboss1073, he is spreading false information. He thinks Cleopatra was a Amazigh (Berber). The term Celtic was used by the Greeks to describe a culture that a bunch of tribes in southern Gaul (modern day France). These tribes spread that culture to Iberia and Ireland amongst others. It doesn't matter what they called themselves, what matters is that they adopted the culture that was known as Celtic. What you self identify as does not change facts or reality, I can't self identify as a monkey and have it come true. Using his logic then the Mexican and Southern American people wouldn't be Spanish if they didn't call themselves Spanish but hat wouldn't be true. They have the language and the culture as well as shared lineage from intermixing of the populations so therefore they would be Spanish no matter what they called themselves. A good example is you can be Columbian and Spanish at the same time, one is a cultural identity and one is an ethnic identity. The same goes for the Irish. Gaelic is heavily influenced by the Celtic culture.
@irishcolin By this argument the Irish and the Welsh are English. Is that your view?
Your channel is a breath of fresh air in this age of clickbaits and uninspiring journalism. We need more of your type of videos based on facts and science.
3 random skeletons can form the ethnic origins of an entire nation? Like, how? Okay, back to the show.
I feel this way with evolution..some old monkey skeletons don’t mean humans evolved from monkeys
@@Madanth0ny That's because humans didn't evolve from monkeys. The theory states that great apes and humans had a common ancestor millions of years ago. Very different concept.
@Badabingqb that just means you don't understand evolution.
Did you not hear what the Professor out of TCD said? There was other remains that have been located, showing there where already people in Ireland predating the Celts (different genetic make-up), not just based on the three skeletal remains found under a pub. Given there are archelogical remains in Ireland that predate the arrival of the Celts, there obviously was an entirely different ethnic people living there already.
. @SephoraBelle Did you not read that I made this comment when I heard only 3 skeletons and then proceeded to watch the rest of the video?..... I'm just sayin....
Professor Cunliffe is an absolute TITAN of prehistoric archeology. One needs big balls indeed to challenge him.
He's also an idiot that doesn't know anything about genomics. He's just a name. Nothing more.
Basketball or baseball
Mostly they are challenged by outsiders not dependend from them. THIS is science - question any so called authority if needed.
medicine@@johndorilag4129
I challenge him to a match of naked wrestling.
Love the humor with the lecture
I love your passion. I remember watching another video (from the Penn Museum, I believe) about modern excavations of Troy. He told the story of how they got some ground survey data from the plain surrounding the mound that suggested that there might have been a wall surrounding a lower city. They told some journalists and suddenly it was being reported that they had "found the walls that Achilles had dragged Hector's body around during the Trojan War". When the archaeologists finally got around to excavating they found not a wall, but a ditch (which using their method ground survey would have shown identical signatures to each other). The lesson he took from this was something along the lines of 'never talk to journalists'.
What the professors and scientists (in the article your video covers) were probably talking about is how the discovery of a link between the modern Irish and the ancient inhabitants of Ireland further disproves the migration/invasion theory of cultural spread that was the scientific canon in the mid-20th century.
I married an Irishman who went to school that taught in Irish , most of the family did the same. The family is Irish and they regularly speak Irish.
How do they discuss e.g. computer technology related topics? I suppose they use English words for what gaellic doesn't have or have linguists coined new words?
You honestly seem like a really good dude. An intelligent, honest, interesting, and charismatic one at that. Too bad more dudes aren't like you, the world would be a better place.
Thank you for the explanation of difference between genetic and cultural heritage. I have been puzzled about this and not understood it for years.
This reminds me of a book I have on the Anglo-Saxon conquest of Britain by Guy Halsall. He uses DNA studies to show that the Saxons/Angles/ Jutes arrived in small numbers and subjugated the indigenous Britons with less brutality as was once thought.
Yeah, the phenomenon is called acculturation. It happed in the Golden Islamic era when Arab science, language, religion and literature became the dominant force in North Africa and non-Arab speaking Middle East. Or in lands such as Russia where an amalgam of Finno-Ugric, Norse, Slavic, Turkic, Iranian and Greek population became the modern day "Russians".
Yep. It was a long term cultural pressure for the most part, like how american culture permeates today. Difference in bloodprice for saxon speakers and celtic speakers after invasion also had an effect
I really like these videos, truth and fact's, spoken in clear and well spoken manner. Please keep them coming, this is exactly what rational and sane people need in their programming.
My own initial thought with the claim that the bones are levantine is that they might have been traders, depending on the year they're dated too. Irrc, theres evidence that tin from the Brittish Isles was traded all the way to Egypt/Anatollia in the bronze age, so its not impossible that some traders arrived to Ireland and died, were buried, and managed to survive.
the copy+pasting of articles also has another purpose, to flood the web with the illusion of a consensus on a particular issue or topic. if a normie sees 25+ articles all stating the same thing, they will simply take it as fact. they do it not only because they are lazy, but because it pushes their cause.
Give it enough time and they'll be saying that we're not Gaels and never were
An English guy tried claiming that in a comment section. He said the English created the word "Gaels" so the Gaels never existed but are made up.
You're right, 'Celtic' is a reference to culture, not genetics. The first people in Ireland and the British Isles, were the neolithic peoples who built Scara Bray, Stonehenge, and New Grange. The second wave was the Bell Beaker people, whose DNA I share 100% of. These people were known as Celtic because of art, language and other cultural aspects.
Are you being raysist towards Mesolithic hunter-gatherers by not considering them "people"? :)
It's not even a reference to culture, it's a reference to a language family. The Celts of Anatolia were quite distinct from the ones from Gaul.
@@minutemansam1214 Where do you think the Tectosages, the Trocmii, and the Tolistobogii come from? learn the basic history before you comment on things. "The Celts of Anatolia" literally migrated there from Gaul. this is all reasonably documented as well
NO! The first people in Ireland and the British Isles were NOT "the neolithic peoples who built Scara Bray." As a retired archaeologist I assure you Palaeolithic stone tools manufactured by Homo heidelbergensis are commonly found in England. Just look up Clactonian tools and Acheulian sites in the UK. I found a Clactonian cleaver now in the British Museum in my back garden. These tools date to the end of the first Ice Age, about 450,000 years ago. The earliest evidence of humans in the UK are the footprints excavated at Happisburgh, Norfolk, dating to about 700,000 BP. There is a Neaderthal skull from Swanscombe in Kent. Humans disappeared from Britain during the Ice Ages, returning most recently about 10,000 years ago after the Devensian glaciation. Settlement was then made by the distinct Mesolithic culture which dates from the end of that Ice Age to about 4,300 years ago and is widely represented throughout the UK. (Look up Mesolithic tools in Yorkshire). So, sorry, you are very wrong. The first people in Ireland and the British Isles were not neolithic people.
its really a reference to both, its context specific
Excellent as always Metatron. I would love for you to conduct a similar analysis of the Spanish. Being from Northern Spain we have always viewed ourselves as a combination of Celts and Visigoths. Just curious to get your input. 👍🏻
Of course it’s someone from Oxford…
"emeritus" means "retired".
@@janetmackinnon3411 They should have said emeritus to avoid phonetic confusion. 🤡
You are outstanding and a breath of fresh air using Actual Quantifiable facts.
Thank you
We need more historians like you to protect world history keep up the fantastic truths it's an honour to watch 👍🇬🇧
Nothing is being protected here, he is ignorantly contributing to British Romanticists from the 17th century who stole the name "Celts" from the Iberians. Watch Celts and The End of Roman Britain and you will learn something up-to-date.
But he is confusing a few things. Culture doesn't make you a certain thing.
Are the Spanish and French Roman? They share a similar culture and language...genetics matter
@@PoetofHateSpeech so let's say I left Britannia and joined the Roman Empire and became a general did great deads became known in history and so was that because of my genetics or was it because I was part of the Roman empire culture 🤔 and so those terms France, Spain, did not exist back then they was called Hispania,Gaul. So in history the need for genetics is for Human movement in history across the world and not culture did that help at all.👍?
@@andrewyorke3352 You would be known as a Britain...go on, tell me an African can be a Russian lol 😆
@@PoetofHateSpeech wow what a Muppet did you just say that. again using modern day terminology go back to school 😂😂😂😂😂
The author did this on purpose. They didn't 'misunderstand' -- they twisted the content they were relying on in order to create click bait out of nothing. That's all that is. We see it all the time with popular science articles, you get people writing these who know nothing about the discipline, nor do they actually care about the discipline, so they take things out of context on purpose and mislead their audience, on purpose, for clicks. I've seen this many times. Such authors should be called out as the conniving liars they are. They should have so little credibility after publishing such articles that they can never get paid to write another one again. Yet the system rewards them, because they get those clicks. And the typical person who may be interested in the subject but doesn't know any better comes away believing utter rubbish, so the next person they tell about it can inform them that they've been had. Embarrassment and controversy ensues.
This is precisely why Ancient Aliens exists. My sis had been trying to get me to watch it, saying of course Aliens did it! I had to lecture her for an hour and tell her she was being fooled by people with bad motives, and she STILL doesn't believe me. It's so infuriating.
Bad information drives out the good. That's a downside of the internet: you can have stuff about ancient aliens next to a scientific article and you can't tell the difference. Or the scientific article is behind a paywall.
Agreed. Except that I'll raise you one: They're trying to make people lose belief in their own cultures on behalf of their globalist financiers, the same "movement" that influences the WHO and our politicians and corporations.
That I have to applaud basic logic and clear thinking is depressing in its own right. Bravo sir!
This was fascinating! Thank you for the in-depth review.
Thank you for making clear, that DNA isn't necessarily cultural.
I think the main reason these stories get so much traction is because, wouldn't it be like super interesting if we found some groundbreaking remains that changed our entire perceptions of everything?
that's not how science or history has ever worked though. It's pretty much a surefire way to identify the bs. Is it "groundbreaking discovery that changes everything"? Yes? Then it's a fraud
We already have those but they're being suppressed by the usual suspects, unsurprisingly.
@@BloodwyrmWildheart No we don't. You just got caught in the exact same trap. You WANT to believe in grand conspiracies, because it makes your reality more exciting. The evidence for or against these hypotheses matter less to you than the excitement of the lie.
Well yeah, that's the point. Clickbait articles are designed specifically to make you click on them. They are manipulative.
Actual historical research requires critical thinking and evidence-based methodology. All of which online article journalism on entertainment sites lack. They don't want to inform you of anything, they want you to click their link and see their ads.
In truth, reality is more boring and slow to improve upon or discover anything about than what most internet keyboard warriors want to think it is. You won't find massive discoveries changing our entire perspective in a single night. The chances of that happening are close to 0.
Above all else, the majority of people on the planet want to be entertained, and that comes at the cost of the spread of properly researched information, in favor of populism, uncritical thinking, and entertainment over education.
@@BloodwyrmWildheart ah yes, the "big whatever is suppressing X" is another red flag and safe assumption for bs. It has been used by each and ever single scam and fraud for centuries
Off topic a bit, but I always love seeing you come across a word in English that's new to you. English not being your first language, it's interesting to see how fluently you speak it, but are still learning words that most Americans would know. Keep seeking more knowledge. And keep calling out the historical lies! Stay noble, friend.
This reminds me of the national geographic article where a "journalist" heard a professor say "workers in this city in Mesoamerica piled up rocks to create fountains", and then wrote a great expose how "ancient Incan ruins prove they definitely discovered flush toilets!"
The thing about analysing a painting with a microphone actually had me lmao
regarding the "not calling the police after finding one skull":
Our holiday residence is on a former roman graveyard and my dad used to dig bones up when working there. So I guess it was not his first rodeo either xD
This should be basic common sense, but apparently many people believe these kinds of lies. Great video!
Good job, my man.
All my respect and gratitude for your work.
A point of information at 1:10 -- "Co Antrim" is short for "County Antrim" and would be pronounced as "County Antrim" when reading it. This may help you if you come across Irish counties in the future 🙂
I am a Cornishman and proud of it. My Surname is of the Cornish language something like farm/settlement/village on a hill. My surname is, apparently the old name of Tintagel on the North coast of Cornwall. A few days ago I ordered a DNA test kit and I am looking forward to the results following the test. I suspect that my ancestors come from a Spanish origin, although I have my father's fair complexion whereas my late brother had the more swarthy colouration of my Mother's side of the family. We shall see. Great video, as always, and I think the old saying, "a sheep born in a stable is still a sheep and not a horse" holds well for the skeletons.
I was at Tintagel on Sunday. I’m from Liverpool myself with my surname meaning friend of the Norseman / Woodcutter.
I've not been to Cornwall, it looks like a beautiful spot. I'm from the Aran Is in Galway, I did an ancestry test which came bk 8% Scottish rest Irish. Like you half my family myself included look like we're from the Med If we get a tan, the rest sizzle and burn
@@siogbeagbideach Greetings, celtic cousin. Yes my father's side of the family are probably part lobster, any hint of hot weather and we turn bright red. Now at nearly 70, I have learned to wear a wide brimmed hat and to cover up when in the sun, or stay out of it altogether. Growing up in Cornwall and only being three miles from my local beach, I spent all of my summers on the beach with my friends, I am bloody lucky not to have been covered in skin cancers. I have been so badly sunburnt that I have had huge blisters all over, well nearly all over. Duw genes.
@@duster. Dydh da! Blisters in the sun 🌞 I know I know! Bk in the 80s as a teen, I remember burning the bk of my knees and not being able to walk for a few days, at least we've wised up!
It'll be very interesting to see what comes bk on your dna test, if you remember come bk and tell me! the Scottish thing threw me for a minute but it was the loveliest surprise, I'd been using duolingo to learn a bit of Gàidhlig, it's not that different from Irish. Do you speak/ have knowledge of Cornish?
@@siogbeagbideach I wish I knew more of the Cornish language, Kernewek. Unfortunately the revival came too late for me to learn it. Obviously place names, surnames, like my own, gives you an insight as to what it is. I believe that the language has three genders, and tenses are difficult to wrap your brain around.
The DNA, saliva test went off to the labs yesterday and they reckon on 6 to 8 weeks for a result, but yes I will definitely post back here.
According to our most recent national census in Ireland, there's at least two houses for each pub in Ireland. Let's get the facts straight!
The simple fact that people may live in a pub doesn’t make it a house mate ☘️ 🍻😂
@@metatronyt It makes it a house and a home.
The people who regard the pub as home might be scratching their houses from the list of homes, thus being at the pub so much. But this still doesn't validate your bold claim. 😜
So there's two houses for every home ❤
Love for you to make a video about the Dutch. Our stamp om history is big for such a small country. You don't hear that much about us.
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱