Tim Anderson ejected after botched pitch clock violation, a breakdown
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The eye contact thing is the weirdest part to me. Asking an ump to judge eye contact is going to create issues.
I feel like at this point there needs to be a space between when the batter is required to be set and when the pitcher is allowed to begin his windup, because otherwise there's no way for the ump to judge this consistently.
They have x-ray vision, doncha know? They can see right through the back of the batter's head!
From what I understand eye contact is one of the cues but they also have to take into account if the batter is set and Anderson was clearly not set at all before Webb began his motion. It's actually a rule and should have resulted in a ball instead.
Yea how about the umps just signal the pitcher he is good to go. Instead we have to wait on an eye contact you can't see. Everyone say thanks to Max for making this a joke already
Come on, man. Let the guys have their intimate moments
I think this would all be solved if the ump simply held a hand up to hold until he saw the batter was set and then it was ok to pitch. Then it would be simple to see who was milking the clock as well.
This is a good idea
Is this sarcasm? Cuz i thought that's exactly what they used to do. Or am I thinking about little league?
Cricket umpires do this. It's an incredibly easy fix
He was supposed to be doing this, just in his head without raising of the arm. Either he didn't do it, or he thought Anderson was ready.
Umps don't exercise, are you crazy? 🤣
I just enjoy how they put a rule in place to speed up pitchers, and now everyone's mad that a pitcher is going too fast lol😂
Exactly. They're mad at the pitcher for pitching "too quickly" but if he waits too long because the batter has to wiggle around like he has ants in his pants every at bat, then he gets penalized for it. Also, that pitch was delivered well after he'd stepped out. If he had time to step out, he had time to swing at it.
who's mad that the pitchers are working faster?
And the time wasted debating the calls inbetween pitches puts us right back where we started.
The clock nonsense is ruining the game.
I get that the rule changes is speeding the game up but it has ruined baseball and the strategies behind the game
This whole breakdown is basically “two miscommunications walk into a bar”
There will be many more growing pains to come.
combine that with the fragile egos of players and it gunna be a bad time.
I love how the fan minding his own caught a stray 🤣🤣🤣
No one is safe from Jomboy breakdowns
Came straight to the comments😂😂
You know your hair sucks when a guy wearing a LEATHER M&M’s JACKET right next to you goes completely unnoticed.
Obvious fan of The Misfits or Danzig
A judgmental New Yorker.. In other news, water is wet
He’s not ready but they’re looking right at each other. It seems like the rule is still confusing.
Tim needs to do his bat spinny, feet tappy stuff without looking at the pitcher...this is standard crap kids have done since age 5. If you aren't ready, don't look at the pitcher.
That is what I was thinking if he wasn’t ready why look at the pitcher even thou Tim Anderson wasn’t ready he’s still making eye contact
Thank you dude, if he wasn’t ready and still setting up then why did he look at Webb. Keep your head down then
its confusing because this entire thing is stupid and takes away from the sport
Part of being ready though is focusing your eyes on the pitcher/ball. So by putting “look at the pitcher” as a signal you are ready for the pitch you could be handicapping the batter. He is looking down at an object close to him- then he looks up, his eyes are adjusting to looking at an object far away from him and WOAH HERE COMES THE PITCH!
As someone else said- it should be “batter has to be set by 12 seconds remaining- pitcher can’t pitch until 8 seconds remaining. Or something like that.
Also- if the batter called time- the pitcher shouldn’t be allowed to pitch until the ump resumes the game…. Which he shouldn’t do until the batter says go. Wtf is that.
Imagine if the defense calls time out in football and then, without warning and without a specific amount of time lapsing, the offense just runs a play. Wtf.
I honestly thought after the first twirl, the batter was getting both hands on the bat and set. I bet Webb thought so too. Then he decided to twirl the bat a 2nd time when Webb was already pitching. Honestly batters have such a routine for spending like 19 seconds to twirl the bat, adjust feet, shuffle anything could be considered as " not set"
The rule isn't for the batter and pitcher to "nod to each other". Anderson turned his head towards the pitcher, and just because he then quit his motion after that, Webb had already started his pitching motion because Anderson was looking at him. A batter looking at a pitcher is the only gauge the ump truly has.
Good job MLB, forcing umps to pick up on a non verbal cue between pitcher and batter that is different every at bat.
Like how the fuck are yu supposed to pay attention to all the subtle things when they can barely call pitchs right??
Games take too long. Good job on MLB trying to fix their broken product.
right! the ump should indicate like they use too lol. im sure this change
@@mjbluth Good job MLB? No
@@mjbluth Absolute piss take
This “looking into each other’s eyes” thing is gna come into play during something big…
its really stupid ether its on the pitcher and the batter needs to always be ready or they need to scrap it.
👁👄👁 I am now ready for you to pitch to me.
@@zachemorgan exactly. The onus must be placed on one or the other at this point.
This is how the Mets will lose the World Series.. guaranteed
@@yeaRightAJthey making the World Series 😂😂😂
The rule was to keep the batter from constantly calling time out and quit delaying the game.
To me, it's a good pitch all day long. Anderson took his TO. He stepped back into the box, had his head up, made eye contact, took a swing, then stepped back out as pitch was coming. Once you're back in the box, no more stepping out.
Yep. This is not an issue. Probably why Anderson didn't make a big thing of it.
@@unprofoundwell, he did next time he was up. Talked sh¡t, struck out, whined his way to an ejection and then called everyone else “soft” 😂
@@unprofound that was the issue. Anderson said he thought Webb was quick pitching him.
Should be if the batter has used their 1 TO once back in the box they should get set. If they step out of the box (aside from a throw that would cause injury) it's an automatic out with a warning to the batter for their next at bat during that game. If repeated then ( of course automatic out ) plus ejection. Hurt feelings should never play a part in baseball.
Not to mention Anderson has plenty of time to grab the bat and put his foot down.If this is about some routine with hip thrusts before batting it's on Anderson to start earlier.If umps had put up with this stuff the pitch clock never would have worked as it did.
I'd love to see a series of MLB players reacting to Jomboy videos that they're featured in
It’d be great. Wish players would step up
@@legendofzelda2324 All they care about is that moola. Why open cans of worms.
@@patrickr2601 the “why open a can of worms” actually makes so much sense. You’re right.
That WOULD be pretty cool, I'd watch it.
There’s been a baseball player that came on and said how close Jomboy was. I’m not going to look it up but it’s out there.
They looked deeply into each other's eyes, but didn't fall in love. No pitch should be the correct call.
I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture
@@TippyHippy wtf why did this make me lol
@@anthonyrusso6696 cause your sick
MLB made this so convoluted, its insane
Americans love convoluted rules, just ask the NFL
The biggest part of the rule they seem to be emphasizing is the eye contact. If we’re going based on eye contact then Webb was more than okay to start when he did and the umpire was right. I don’t necessarily think that should be the way we interpret the rule. Right now as a batter I wouldn’t make eye contact until I’m pretty much set or coming into my set solely bases]d on how much of the conversation of the rule is centered around eye contact.
While Anderson’s obviously not set, he does look at Webb before Webb starts his motion.
The pitchers don't know what the batters, "set" is, once the make eye contact, here it comes, you can wiggle, move the bat around, move your front, have at it, I'm throwing the pitch once we make eye contact, and you're right, the batter did make eye contact with the pitcher.
@@WoodGuyfeet in box, looking at pitcher so he's alert
The eye contact thing is so romantic.
Hope no one's afraid of rejection.
Perhaps ejection though.
Whenever someone is yelling at you like that, it always tickles their fancy when you politely ask, "u mad little boy?" No matter their size! Sure does give them a nice chuckle.
“That guy” is Glenn Danzig, drawn from memory. Circa ‘83 Misfits. Great channel. Cheers to all
You sure got the right video?
How is the ump behind the batter supposed to know when the batter makes eye contact (Which anderson did do prior to the pitch)?
It’s a bad rule. Batter should have to identify a continuance of play, such as a thumbs up or a nod. Simply making eye contact handicaps the pitcher and creates situations like this.
its not only only contact but also being reasonably set, like I showed in the pitch prior, Anderson was ready compared to this one he clearly wasnt.
Thank you....great call
Especially since Tim was looking at the pitcher even when he wasn't set. There should be a like a head nod or something to signal they are ready. It's a new rule so there's going to be kinks in how it works, but that's something that needs to be addressed.
Anderson's 'set' includes a foot in the air. Just to put a cherry on top.
The eye contact rule is gonna cause issues. Cause it definitely looked like andwrson looked out at the pitcher so i can see why the call was made.
After the recent fight with Jose, I am not sure if TA will want to call anyone"soft" from now on.
He's supposed to take him to brunch and then ask him politely if he's ready for the ball before the pitch comes
This has to be one of the easier lip readings Tim Anderson made it so clear lol
You mean Jackie Robinson?
@@skankytrick Tim Anderson owns your pathetic franchise. 🤣
@Mao LeBron Indeed.
@@skankytrickCringe
@@Sodium8Chloride08 Say less.
Anderson was keeping eye contact with him that entire time. Pitcher is supposed to know when Anderson is gonna finish his entire intro? I’m fine with the call.
Completely agree.
Right there with you. Had to scroll farther than I thought to find this comment 😂
Totally agree. You can see tries to time his motion as Anderson seems to finish getting settled and then it almost looks like at the last second Anderson decides to do a whole nother bat roll like to get the pitcher crossed up.
Webb had already come set by the time Anderson stepped into the box. That is a clear violation of the Scherzer rule. Webb waited to start his delivery until Anderson broke eye contact, so the fact that he wasn't called just on the basis of having come set prematurely is a bad look for the ump.
the pitcher should know when he’s gonna finish his “intro” because he had literally already thrown him a few pitches 💀
MLB fixed something that wasn't broken.
He really screwed himself by jumping out of the box, makes it look like he's trying to game the system.
The eye contact argument kind of goes out the window with your still shot showing them starting at each other
exactly what i was thinking, like if that’s the cue and he’s in the box, kinda sounds like it’s the batters fault. especially right after his only time call
Yea the batter is in the wrong. Jomboy is on the wrong side of this one.
Sounds to me like you don't understand the rules. He doesn't even have two hands on the bat when the pitch starts. The new rules are bad.
@Bruce Vayne except his argument is all bout eye contact
@@danielromanski5609 How do you know he wasn't looking in his general direction?
I have always felt like the pitch clock is worse for batters than the pitchers
Perhaps if you look at single at bats in isolation. But at the end of the day Pitchers are doing a lot more work than batters/fielders & condensing the amount of time in which they have to put in that work makes Pitching a lot harder. You’re going to see a lot fewer guys throwing 100+ pitches & going late into games down the stretch. It’s worse for Pitchers than batters & the increase in runs early in the season & Spring training shows that.
Is that why the Giants scored 16 runs yesterday?
Always? Lol this a new thing
I hope they ban the pitch clock next year after this failed experiment. There was nothing wrong with the length of baseball games.
It isn't, the whole pitch clock thing isn't about making the games more watchable on length, it's about limiting the use of analytics in pitching and shifting that's killed offense and baserunning in the game.
If only this was the worst thing that would happen to him this season lol
Good stuff, Jimmy. How’s about the Chattanooga Lookouts getting no-hit but winning 7-5 for the next breakdown?
He stepped back into the box signaling that he is ready. How is the ump going to see the batters eyes?
That’s why the rule doesn’t actually say anything about eye contact the language is “reasonably set” which is pretty obvious when a batter is set 99.99% of the time
I'm sure we're going to see many of these this season. Umping definitely harder now.
Without it even being about an actual play
Gotta give umpires lot more respect now, it's truly insane how difficult umpiring seems now
Yep, just brought the umps into more decision, a lot of them arbitrarily making decisions. Too much like the NFL to me, open to interpretation. There is no greater sport than baseball and I may not be watching much this year
Imagine a robo-ump calling a play clock violation. Would it have called this play differently??
@@josephsimmons9241 I strongly encourage you to avoid the TV and read a book. I know that is difficult for people now. I know even a book is often biased and inaccurate but developing better judgement of content quality has been pretty much a past skill of mental processes. Or you could learn a new skill or hobby instead of operating a remote device because history and laziness and health decided it's too hard to get up and switch channels between various liars, crappy shows and things three networks are sponsored to show by corporations or Hollywood.
Imagine those old lazy farmers sitting on their wooden porches all winter and fall, waiting for a couple weeks to plant seeds. Imagine the good ole rocking chair getting a work out while farmer Smith waited for spring rains. Or waiting for months for mother nature to grow his crops. Then finally his community gets together and they all show up to harvest his field, the next farm fields, etc. Ten months of sitting and two months of real work. A hard life.
But now it's better. We can save walking and drive to the food store instead of out on a farm to pick vegetables, gather eggs, slaughter a pod or chicken. We can finger a remote or talk to anyone, anywhere, anytime with a few touches and even see them. No more hitching the mule to a wagon to ride into town to visit the general store or send a telegram.
We've come a long way towards laziness and ease. Finally, imagine how great it will be to spread this attitude through out the solar system.
I'm not saying we should go back in time. I'm saying humanity is not properly culling itself. 😅
I gotta say, Tim really did keep his cool through that whole thing. Usually these guys fly off the handle like maniacs.
yeah its usally cause of the roids these dudes aint using roids
Agreed!
tim kept his cool? wtf lol hes the only one freaking out
Kept his cool? He got ejected this game.
@@JackhammerPossessor He didn't freak out. He said ok and walked away quietly after he plead his case. He only got upset when the ump ejected him for talking to the pitcher when he wasn't actually talking to the pitcher. He was talking to the 3rd baseman. Cry baby ass pitcher is the one freaking out because he cant do his job with people talking around him. Maybe next game we could just leave the fans at home too.
This is why cricket is much better at "getting set" than baseball. Usually the bowler / pitcher has a massive run up towards the wicket where they bowl (about 20m). In that time the batsman can get set at his wicket to be ready once the ball is delivered. Even for spin bowlers who spin slower balls and approach the wicket sloeer (like curveballs) have a run up of about 5m for batters to be set. It makes it way easier everyone to be ready and have consistent rate of overs (sets of pitches)
Looks to me like he was looking at him in the eyes...
From what I understand from Close Call Sports; Order is: Batter Set (Before 8 seconds), Pitcher Set, eye contact, pitch. Pitcher is set before the batter which is illegal.
@@ingiford175 It was his windup. Nobody was on
a glance in the direction != eye contact
@@rileyesmay You still have to come set no matter if you're in the windup or out of the stretch. Webb has his hands together ready to start his motion when Anderson steps into the box, so Webb has come set well before the batter is ready.
@Chris technically yes, but umpires have just adopted the "same motion and no advantage gained it's legal" for windup motions. He also broke his right knee before his left leg or foot moved, so technically it's a balk there too, but again umpires don't care because no advantage gained
Lip reading with JomBoy always a great way to start the day 😂
And then the players took their beef to the Twitter comments, A BREAKDOWN!
1:20 Is that Squiggy from Laverne and Shirley???
The second pitch began right at the end of the "hip thrust thing" about a full second before the leg came up. You count the one pitch from the left foot movement and the second from the leg lift. There was maybe a third of a second difference on timing between the batter and pitch in the two examples. Also, how is an umpire supposed to define a batter being set and a pitcher beginning a pitch when you are putting things in slow motion to determine exactly when a pitcher "starts" movement and a batter's bat is completely raised.
Too much expected of the umps. Rule needs to be that pitcher throws within the time frame and batter needs to be in the box for the pitch.
The rule is that the pitcher has to wait for the batter to be ready before the pitcher comes set. Webb was already set as Anderson stepped into the box, so Webb should have been called for quick pitching.
Isn't it a violation as soon as the pitcher comes set before the batter's ready? Either way, definitely a missed call. Feel like we're going to get a lot of these because the umps have to keep a LOT in mind as everything progresses.
yes. you are correct. that's immediately what I was thinking too.
And the pitcher was set early often it seems.
This was the windup. There's no way to say a pitcher can't stand there with their hands together waiting; that'd be ridiculous.
This was clearly an early motion though; but barely.
@@sfan2767 They actually can and have. The Mac Scherzer actually explicitly states that the pitcher cannot be set before the batter is ready
Yes, it should have been called as such
That “Too Weak” Line Is Really Hitting With Him Now Huh Lmao
This is going to be the most f'd up season ever.
already is. the moment the pitch clock was introduced in spring training, it was all over.
Baseball players did this to themselves. You don't have to readjust your batting gloves, stare into LF, scratch your junk, stretch, then take 5 or 5 practice cuts in between EVERY PITCH. so glad they put the new rule in.
Could’ve reduced that kind of thing (however often it actually happened) without a clock. Just make hitters stand with one foot in the box between pitches.
@@webgem14 they already tried that, It doesn't work.
@@webgem14 they already tried that. Players play their junk still. The pitch clock is good for baseball
@@johnlinks speeding up the game somewhat is definitely good for baseball. Having a solution that allows for pitches, at-bats, and games to be decided on plays that are non actual baseball plays is going to be bad for the game in the long run.
Then there is Framber Valdez with his Pedro Cerrano religious rituals between each pitch. It's on pitchers like him too.
He went to spin his bat a second time. He didn't do that before. I could see where the pitcher thought he was about to be set.
You can see Anderson clearly makes eye contact with the pitcher.
Excellent point.
He didn’t spin a second time. He lowered the bat before he even settled the spin because the pitcher was already set and initiating a throw prior to the batter being considered ‘alert’.
it really is a tricky situation but I think it will work down the line
I’m glad you did this. Wasnt able to watch the game, heard about what happened, now i got to see it all. Thanks jomboy 🙏🏼
Can’t wait to see Altuva’s routine when he gets back off IR. He adjusts each batting glove between each pitch and his helmet. He’s quick but still ……. Lot of moving parts.
Do a search on "nomar garciaparra batting ritual", he would get called out on strikes without the pitcher needing to throw a single pitch
With the clock, will there be enough time for his teammates to tell him which pitch is coming?
@@thepaperbowsershut up Altuve never participated in the pitch stealing and you can fact check that
@@thepaperbowsercan’t stand you keyboard warriors who do zero research and acuse great players
@@thepaperbowser get over it
The pitcher not starting his delivery before the batter is reasonably set has always been the rule. The Max Scherzer update was that the pitcher can't come set until the batter is in the box. This was just an old school quick pitch
Bingo!
And Webb was set before TA was in the box after the foul ball. That should have been a violation by Webb and wasn't called.
@@JJP242 You've incorrectly posted this numerous times.
@@TheMattTrakker what did I say that was incorrect?
@@JJP242 some people just don’t see it because at 1:36 to me and as Jomboy said the pitcher is already in motion before Anderson looks up
Top of the year lip reading already. God I missed the baseball breakdowns. Back to business baby!!!!!
What I see is a pitcher raise his leg which is “motion” but since it’s not forward it won’t even count as a Baulk. It also takes a bit for him to move forward and actually pitch. The batter strayed moving too soon.
You talked about eye contact, then u talked about being comfy.
1:38 eye contact
1:38 pitcher starts motion but clearly after
Thank you!!!
Exactly. Webb took a deep breath, and Anderson looked right at him after the breath ended, then Webb started the windup. It's really easy to see
lmfao - "clearly after" but tags the same time. He waited for anderson to look up and threw it immediately. thats not the rule
I'm confused. He wasn't set, ya, but he made eye contact before he was set. Doesn't that mean the pitcher can pitch? I don't think I understand the rule.
Let’s just admit MLB killed the game of baseball
@@777Poker it’s way better off for it. No one needs to wait 30sec to a minute while a batter goes through some sort of “comfort” routine after every pitch. It’s definitely a change for the better.
@@777Poker man shut up, my god. Mistakes happened in baseball before the pitch clock, but those never ruined the game, huh?
No you understand it. Idk why people disagree with the call, he was in the box, he looked at the pitcher, the pitcher can go.
@@777Poker only fools are saying dumb stuff like this.
The speed of the game now is something I would have enjoyed when I played. I didn't like how slow the game was before. But if how Jomboy explained it is the new rule, there's going to be a lot of manipulation by the pitchers & batters. If it is still on the ump to judge 'eye contact' of a batter, who's eyes the ump can't even see, and the pitcher, why not just have the ump tell the pitcher when he can start his windup? If this is how the pitch clock rule continues, I expect there to be a lot of video replays trying to figure whether the batter or pitcher was in the right.
Why did he wall out of the box though? I think if he stayed in the box he would have more of an argument but he was like "oh he moved his foot so I'm gonna walk away." I get why the ump was wrong but it was a bizarre move by TA to leave the box
Batter was in the box with his head up while the pitcher still had the ball in his glove. Violation is on the hitter for stepping out. Good call.
I understand the hitter was trying to slow things down because he was getting quick-pitched the whole AB, but if you step-in and already used your TO, you gotta be ready.
He was coming off of a timeout. Sounded like the rule stated the pitcher can't start his pitch until the batter is set, seeing as the batter still has time. But Idk.
@@TheFudily batter loses time the moment he steps into the box
Pitch clock was at 12 when he looks at the pitcher, starts to step out at 11
The pitcher having his hand on the ball in his glove is the part that makes it illegal. The pitcher has come set before the batter which violates the scherzer rule. When Close Call Sports says an umpire messed it up, you know the ump got it really wrong.
As a White Sox fan, yes in slow motion Jomboy you're right. As a live play it's so close and quick I don't know how the ump is supposed to get that right. Tim backing out of the box as an ump I'd assume he's trying to call another timeout which he cant. They still need to work this new rule out more. At this point they might as well give the batter 10 seconds to get ready and then the pitcher 10 seconds. So if the batter isn't ready by the 10 second mark, too bad.
Exactly 🙌🏻
There's no need for that, just don't look up until you're about to be set. The moment the batter looks up in the pitcher's direction it should be go time regardless if the batter is set or not.
@@jenniferhamels1176 nah batter has to be set Logan had pitched to him already he knew he wasn’t set and pitched anyway
@@Tonyconstanza Whether or not he's reasonably set is subjective. Once he decides to look up, I'd assume he's reasonably set also. Otherwise, wtf is he doing staring at the pitcher while he bat windmills?
@@TheMattTrakker the pitcher can clearly see he only had one hand on the bat and his foot wasn’t even set pitcher knew what he was doing
In his defense Anderson made eye contact. If he wasn’t ready he shouldn’t be looking at the pitch while he’s preparing
Pitchers gotta wait for the batter to get set and make eye contact, but their pitch clock is still ticking down.
They have to really adjust this so that people can't play around with the clock.
When the dude with The Count hairdo realises he's been immortalized by Jomboy that's gonna be his hairstyle for life 😂 "Two, two balls two strikes bahahahahahaha"
The Eddie Munster look is coming back! Lol
Let's not overlook the sweet mustache!! 😂
But what about the M&M’s jacket old dude next to him is rocking? A lot going on in the front row.
I think if he had not stepped out of the box he would have had a better argument.
Agree 💯
I just want clarification on who was being soft here. Because Timmy “don’t call me Jackie, only I call me Jackie Robinson” Anderson has no business calling anybody soft. SELL THE TEAM JERRY
@@fernandobarrera6440 That happened like a year ago bruh no way ur still on his meat abt that
@Vuhzz
Y'all southsiders still bitching about Ventura and that dudes been dead for like 5 years.
Agree!!
I think the batter was fine until he stepped out. Once he stepped out
He has now taken his second time out.
There is no second time out he stepped out because he assumed the ump would call a violation on the pitcher
I haven't watched MLB since Paul Molitor was left the Brewers but this crazy drama going on in baseball has peaked my interest. I might have to start checking these games out this is bananas.
Umps need to start being fined
No it would be unfair for the umps
Absolutely not
this comment has been copypasted under every MLB video with a questionable/wrong call a million times, but hey keep it up
fired
Officials across all sports definitely need to be reigned in. Their power has almost become absolute. There is nothing you can do to fix a bad call you just have to deal with it
Man that pitch clock is faster than I thought it'd be. Surely it has to be harder on the pitchers' arms.
search Kirk Gibson Detroit tigers world series hit, look how fast they play without being crybabies about it
only if you are a power pitcher
“power pitcher” lol everyone nowadays throws 90 minimum
@@zachpawelek3995 Not about the speed its about the Mechanics. If youre throwing with alot of Weight to get to your Velo, youre going to suffer from the clock
They tested it in minor leagues last year and there was no increase in arm injuries
instead of ey contact if should say "batter must be in "ready" position with in the time limit. A ready position means that there are two hands on the bat and it is behind the batter's head."
Let's hope that attendance at games and tv/online viewership doubles this year because this pitch clock stuff is really screwing up the game just to get people who don't like baseball to stop saying "baseball is too slow"
Viewership is up. Most players and fans enjoy the pitch clock and pace of the game. Only players/fans making criticisms are those that don’t understand the rules. Umps have been correct according to the new rules more than 90% of the time.
The dude in the crowd has a devil lock, big misfits fan probably
it looks to me it was simultaneous between when webb started the motion and anderson got set. Every batter/pitcher has a different setup. I don't have a problem with this one, i think the ump was in the right(on the strikeout). Especially considering anderson just came off a timeout.
yeah, but Tim didn't ask for that timeout.
@@pigalleycatemanresu7321 What? Yes, he absolutely did ask for the time out. He stepped out of the box and put his hand up to the ump and nodded, to signal a timeout.
yea looks to me like your classic black athlete turned thug mid game because of any minor call out against him. Claim they are wrong for any reason and its like MF this and MF that and back to the streets instantly lol.
The umpire was wrong after the timeout. The Scherzer Rule states as a point of emphasis that the pitcher cannot come set before the batter is in the box, and Webb was set before TA was in the box. That was a violation by Webb that the ump missed.
@@JJP242 Nope, you're wrong.
I think Anderson should not look directly at the pitcher while he's getting set if he still needs a few seconds. Giving eye contact is giving the green light. You can get fully set while looking straight ahead before turning your head toward the pitcher (imo).
Just seeing the pitch clock is making my stomach churn.
Umpires just love throwing out Tim Anderson lol
Jackie makes it real easy.
@@SportsOdyssey2019 Seek Christ
@Timothy Noonan seek buddha
@@timothynoonan8591 You soft!
He makes it easy
Maybe if he said "I wasn't set" over "Eye contact" would've helped him. Because he was looking forward so in the umps mind he might not have even known Anderson was actually talking about being set
Exactly. How is an umpire supposed to gauge proper "eye contact" when the batter is facing AWAY from him? Seems like nonsense
The ump should have called Webb while he was delivering the pitch. Webb had already come set when Anderson stepped into the box, so Webb should have been called for quick pitching easy. I honestly think this is just an all around bad look for the home plate umpire and I don't think his post-game review would be very good.
Easy fix: Batter must be in the box by 10 seconds; pitcher can pitch at any point but only AFTER 10 seconds.
I mean this is going to be almost impossible to have 1 ump trying to keep his eyes on when the pitcher starts his delivery and when the batter is actually set when it's literally fractions of a second different. We're going to have to have a "New York" like the NFL does to get correct calls down to the field quickly before managers want to start challenging these kinds of plays and then we're right back to having extended dead ball time
Can you do one about DeSchlafani yelling at Vaughn at 1st base
Do you think we'll eventually see a "balk" rule, but for hitters? From Webb's perspective I could see sneaking one in on Anderson here, but from Anderson's perspective I could see going through my "routine" early, but not being set in order to try to get a quick pitch ruling. He was fast on him all at bat, so seems like something the batters could game.
finding loopholes in the rules has been part of all games since their inception
It already exists, a batter can be assessed a strike if they are not ready with 8 seconds remaining. The batter gets one time out only.
Great idea. Have two pre pitch routines to throw the pitcher off and potentially have them start too early- you’re onto something!
Good point. If something can be gamed it likely will be.
@@cyclopsvision6370 the ump shouldn’t get to force a batter to use his time out. Especially since they don’t want to make it so that the timeout is automatically called after 8 seconds to avoid an automatic strike. There’s been players who ask for time well before the pitcher starts his motion to avoid getting an automatic third strike and the ump refused to give it to them. I’m not for giving umps even more authority than they already have
2:20...eye contact, though. Anderson swinging the bat around and not set is on him, not Webb. He was looking at Webb at :12. He had 3 more seconds to get his feet set and bat upright. Webb took advantage of Anderson being lazy in the box. Webb doesn't have to wait until Anderson is 'comfy'.
its not only eye contact he also has be in his hitting stance. its basically 'hey lets not be assholes here'. quick pitching isnt allowed anymore
Pitchers are not allowed to have their hand in the glove until a batter is set after a time out. I have seen many warnings issued concerning this during the first week of play.
Agreed. This is the correct take. The batter not being set is not the pitcher's problem.
@@Defx10 it officially is the pitchers problem. That’s not a take, it’s the rule.
@@jomboy_ Go re-watch every single pitch in the at-bat. Jackie is wagging his bat and tapping his foot at every one of them, so why should the last one be treated any differently by the pitcher? He made eye contact, indicating he was ready. He also stepped out of the box a second time, which he can't do. The ump made the correct call.
I realize it may not be the "rule", but the earnest is on the batter to be set. The pitcher is the one with the clock.
You said that guys behind him I thought it was the old guy wearing a Kyle Busch jacket, I wouldn't think of him as a fan of his lol
I mean….Tim Anderson calling people soft…come on man 😂
That "soft" player struck him out twice. Tim is a crybaby b**** 😂.
After he walked away from a strike three call. Mf had time to get his second hand on the bat and do at least ~something~ with the pitch, but chose to walk 8 feet away by the time the pitch was called a strike. And immediately pitched a fit. He would’ve had a case for a quick pitch if he hadn’t bailed before Webb’s leg even went up, but being a baby about it cost him strike 3.
… and then yelled at Webb, was told to fuck off, kept it up, then got tossed. This is literally all on Tim. And if a quick pitch had been called on Webb, cause it ~was~ close, I guarantee you it wouldn’t have caused such a scene. TA’s attitude constantly costs his team.
@@jackieparmz agreed. Dude is actin like he needs his diaper changed. Just get in the box and try to hit the fckin ball.
This new rule is going to create dozens of these breakdowns per week. Hope you can keep up Jomboy!
Dozens? More than 24 per week? Jomboy ain’t got time for that…lol
This is the first weeks of brand new rules being introduced to the game. Everybody from players to managers to umpires are still getting used to things. I'm cutting them some slack for the first few months, they'll get used to things by the end of May and we won't see nearly as much of this. Umpires are probably also being told to be more strict now to force players to get used to things
@@brianhatfield2255 Yep. How many teams play per day? How many at bats per game? Definitely going to have dozens of offenders.
thank you!!! absolute bogus call and ejection. unlike that ump, you just don't miss
He was clearly ready. And he got his timeout for the at bat. He stepped out of the box after already using a timeout. He was clearly trying to ice the pitcher so to speak but he really wasn't in the right to just step out of the box again.
2:15 I mean... they're looking right at each other. lol
It's hilarious to me that Jomboy jumps on the one guy in the stands about his hair without even mentioning the old man in the neon yellow M&Ms jacket next to him. Sox fans of course know who that guy is, but to a casual observer it's not like you see a guy in a jacket covered in peanut M&M iconography every day.
Yeah that was definitely what caught my eye. I’d buy that old guy a beer. I bet he has some stories.
@@theknightswhosay He should buy you a beer. He's been sitting in the most expensive seats in the stadium for something like 20 years straight.
I am the other guy in the 80s sox jersey. the yellow jacket guy is our boss and by our i do mean eddie munster
@@anthonyugalde9560 is he fun at parties?
@@matthewweflen This is solely theoretical. I don’t think I’d ever be allowed in that area, although I did get similar seats in Dodger Stadium when they were mediocre.
That's that Glen Danzig Misfits hairstyle! Dude must be a fan. Check out Walk Among Us. Good oldskool punk with a sci-fi twist!
Not a baseball fan so not up on the new details, but if there is to a pitch clock, perhaps a batter clock is also appropriate. You only get x seconds to get set, or the pitch is good.
As someone who's been watching baseball for about 45 years, I cannot believe the game has come to this, where we're analyzing still frames to see if someone made eye contact with someone else within a pitch clock.
I mean, this is how it was before. People used to get in the box, and the pitch would come. It wasn’t until the late 90s when Nomar showed up that guys started doing a whole routine.
The only difference now is that the players need the umps to tell them to play, whereas “back in your day” the players used to just play on their own.
I mean obviously there is stuff that’s going to be silly that needs to be ironed out, but you can’t pretend their wasn’t a problem and this is some great injustice to baseball. Guys were up there stepping in and out of the batter box, taking off their gloves and putting them back on 3 times, doing yoga poses, saying prayers, 10 practice swings- it was absurd.
It was a similar problem to what is going on in the PGA Tour, and fans got tired of watching it. Baseball is still baseball, and once they iron this stuff out it will be an afterthought. Honestly, I already think the games flowing pretty well and these incidents are pretty isolated.
@@jayg339 You are absolutely correct there was a problem with these guys and there absurd routines, but a pitch clock is not the answer to the problem. Every game I have seen so far has felt incredibly rushed.
@@mattsmith9270 I think it’s tough because on one hand I would say instead of the pitch clock the umps could have the ability to call batters/pitchers for a delay of game, but the it might seem subjective if it happens in a big moment.
With the pitch clock, there is a set time that must be followed and it’s not left up to someone’s interpretation. Maybe they will adjust the time to be a little longer, or they will come up with another solution - who knows 🤷♂️ It’s a tricky problem.
Same. Just a sign of the 🤡🌍 times.
> Makes eye contact with pitcher mid routine
> Gets pitched to
...what did you think was gonna happen? He knows the pitcher is trying to go fast, and then mid routine he (albeit unintentionally) gave the signal that allows Webb to pitch
There's a lot of learning to be done still, but that one's on Tim if you ask me
The ejection call was wrong though, but the mp was definitely confused what was going on (and likely thought Tim was still mad at him after the previous at bat)
He soft
I was not ready.. I was looking pass his eyes, there was no eye contact. 🤣
The Scherzer rule means the pitcher can’t come set before the batter is ready. Webb was coming set way before Anderson was ready in the box, Ump messed this one up bad.
Seems like they are now trading off time from game to arguing and ejections. That being said it makes it more entertaining watching everyone confused and bickering.
Watching people arguing is definitely more fun than watching pitchers take a stroll every pitch or hitters doing the Garciaparra
Baseball highlights stopped being about the game, and more about fights and fans about 25years ago. Baseball is dead
So detailed that he even notices the hair of the crowd😂
Too bad they guy did not say something because we could have got the lip reading too
Is eye contact reviewable? 😂 How can the ump possibly make a judgement on eye contact? That being said, Anderson was looking right at Webb as he got ready, and then stepped back out right when Webb began his delivery. Didn’t even try. Seems like Anderson just doesn’t like the new rules. And also, he should know, if you keep running your mouth after the ump tells you to knock it off, you can get tossed…I think it’s hilarious that he called Webb soft when he spent 3 mins whining his ass off. 😂 Take it like a man, Timmy.
Once they install eyes in the back of the batter’s heads it’ll be easier for the ump to determine eye contact.
Im pretty sure this happened to Machado against the Diamond backs this past tuesday. I was hoping for a breakdown 👀
That was machados fault
That was so Manny Fault
As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for because you might get it. Machado got the fat contract he wanted, so now he's dropped the fake "I'm a mature team leader" act and has gone back to openly being a brat who will injure people if he thinks he can get away with it.
That one was a little different. Machado need to request the before the clock reached the 8-second mark, and replay showed he request time on the 8-second mark. Therefore the violation happened before time was called. The best way I can describe it is like in football when a coach tries to call a timeout to avoid a delay of game penalty but fails to do so before the play clock expires an his team is called for a delay of game.
Yeah, but Manny ran out of time, which is on him and only him
I was hoping you'd cover the Machado ejection after pc violation
The eye contact thing is very very little league. I had to have a conversation with the plate up while coaching 3rd because my batter had barely stepped in the box and didn't have his eyes up by the time the pitch was coming. For me, in little league, kids need to be able to duck away, someone's going to get hurt from a quick pitch
I think someone in the JM network said that maybe they should just ditch the batter's side of the clock stuff. forget the 8 seconds, forget the getting in the box and getting ready and making eye contact. just... pitcher has his timer, pitcher has to be doing this by then, that by then, etc. etc... batter's responsibility to be in there and ready to receive the pitch, but if he's not... oh well... ball or strike, whatever it ends up being.
I get that some pitchers (like this guy and Max Scherzer and all) will be trying to fuck with the batters in a less restricted clock for batters but... there's gotta be some way to make sure it's not that exploitable.