Umpire & Manager argue but are both wrong, a breakdown
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Who do you think is gonna win the durby
Jimmy please do a breakdown of the rookie pitcher from triple A hitting a grandslam on his first at bat. Padres v. Nationals.
th-cam.com/video/lG-GXBlii_M/w-d-xo.html
Older play but do a reaction of this pleaseeee
The umpire got the call right, even though he was wrong.
Youre wrong bud.
Ump should have said, “You got 2 guys on third base and “I” fucked up??
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Lmao fr
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We might have seen manager-umpire fisticuffs if that happened, lol.
He did fuck up tho
Honestly, that's as good as a human umpire should be expected to perform on a chaotic play like that. He has one angle on the play and is watching for several things.
Ump did great, the coaches had no idea what they were talking about
This might be the first time I've seen an Ump make a wrong call and actually understand how it happened. Usually it's just baffling. This one actually makes sense.
Also this should probably be reviewable. I don't think anyone's getting this one right without a little help
No he's a dbag
Not really, if the ump knew the rules better (which at this level they should) he wouldnt have called 2 runners out.
@@lewisgriffin9684 why?
Honestly I’m impressed the ump made the call he made. Even though it was wrong. From his angle he was spot on.
Big facts honestly that's on the lead off runner for being indecisive and then that's on the dude behind him seeing him be indecisive and still following him anyways
@@olzzydlzzy6750 agreed 👍
He explained the rule and thought process to the coach well, too.
The lead runner was too aggressive the whole time on the bases and finally got caught. The trailing runner was not paying attention at all lol.
@@nukeboy4939 Yeah that's what I was thinking, he played with fire from the beginning
That ump made a terrific call. Even though he was incorrect , that is a near impossible call to make on the first attempt.
right??? as much as I ridicule umpires, gotta give props for what they're expected to do 100% accurately in these types of situations.
I think he did a good call from what he could see, from his point of view there was no way to see that hand go off the base during first tag, and there would be no reason to think the hand would come off, why would you do that?
@@RenaxTM91 exactly. And the ump was in a proper field position. He wasn't being lazy and not getting in position--it was just an instance of a play unfolding unpredictably and the ump can't have a perfect view every time.
I think the umps might have looked at the replay if the Indians said, "The lead runner was off the base when he was tagged, and should have been called out, and that would negate the out call on the trail runner."
Pos manager/3b coach man, ump did a good all factors considered, losers were just mad for mad sake
"JAMES GOD DAMN IT YOU AB-SO-LUTELY FUCKED THIS UP" is going to be my alarm clock from here on in.
Thanks Jomboy.
Then the motivational “C’mon James, you’re better than that shit” for any time a James fucks up
Jesus loves you!
Beautiful.
This comment would be better if your name was James.
@@82McKinley in this moment, we are all James
"no buddy fucking pays attention to you, james" hilarious
Dude got personal on James real quick! 😂
Buddy
@@RylzMunkister Lmaooo how did i fuck that up....
Nobody
Couldn't hold in my laughter at that point 😭
Interesting fact: every player and coach in the MLB has the same voice as Jomboy, which is why they all sound like him in this video
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 under rated comment.
Don’t forget all the umpires. There’s actually a voice-modifier serum they all use once they get a major league job.
“Hair lookin’ great and I don’t mean that.” Jomboy
that absolutely slayed me. The unexpected shade
It’s good and not good at the same time
Classic Jomboy.... worth every penny.
He looks like Titen from Megamind
YES! Was at the game and knew this would end up on Jomboy!
Hello verified user
Did you make appearance in the breakdown?
also was at the game, didn't think it would end up on jomboy but definitely makes sense
@@splak_5624 I figured after the walk off there was a good chance it would be or at least on almost a breakdown.
didnt know you were a baseball fan rob!
Jomboy’s lip reading skills need a rewatch every single time.
It's impressive
its like he's Batman
Just play the video over and over is how he does it. Anyone can do it
@@bobbyhill1368 But not anyone can do what he does adding the creativity, editing and everything else together that makes the videos great
This title reminds me of when me and my wife debated if something was a creek or a river and we were both wrong
K6!! My favorite borderlands streamer on my favorite baseball recap channel, am I in heaven?
Was it a stream, a brook, or perhaps an esker?
Remind me to never go your house
@@anewt72690 Coulda been a crick, even.
@@timbowden1680 perhaps a tributary
Honestly the ump did a really good job with this one. Wasn’t technically correct but given his line of sight he handled it perfectly, which shouldn’t be taken for granted given the chaos and fast pace of the play
The umpire did a shitty job of this. I was at this game and close to the play and the third base umpire stared down Hernandez on the play and never watched what happened to the lead runner. He assumed what he was watching was a two runners occupying the same base play instead of actually watching the play develop. The home plate umpire would later offer help, but the third base umpire wanted none of it.
@@jeffreyhall8195 oof nvm then lmao
I wasn't at the game but it seems like the ump handled this well. From his angle he saw two runners on one base, made the right call for that situation, then saw a runner get tagged while off the base. Both are very reasonable things to believe based on his angle
I can't speak to if the third base ump declined help from the home plate ump. But at 1:14 in the video, the third base ump is clearly watching the play. He assumed there were two runners occupying the base because he couldn't see the lead runner take his hand off the bag; so he made the proper call under the circumstances.
I'd be interested to know what the home plate ump did in terms of offering help. Could you hear if the home plate ump said something like "the lead runner should have been called out before the trail runner"?
It’s funny that he says nobody pays attention to you James when his whole argument is that the first runner was paying attention and heard the ump call him out
Yeah, I didn't get that either.
When you put it like that it's funny. But I think his point was nobody is watching to see who he was talking about, which is still an asinine argument.
I had to rewatch the video to confirm but the lead runner never once looks at the ump to see where he’s pointing. Lead runner fucked all this shit up, if you’re on the bag, stay there until all the dust settles
He seems like one of those people who can't admit he's wrong
@@PulsingKrugotvoid lol right? Like you’re on third in a confusing play and just leave the base because you assume you’re out?
For once I have to defend the ump because that's a super difficult play to get right in real time
There’s a reason why the are replay reviews smart one
That's up to the teams to call for a review. If Cleveland wanted the play reviewed, then they should've called for one. That's on Cleveland.
@@kirubeltedros1467 ok so umps should just not make any calls because they can just look at it after the fact right?
@@alexbarboni6619 It's not an all or nothing issue. Some plays are harder to call in real time. Some are blatantly obvious.
@kirubeltedros1467 sure but the people contesting the call didn't even understand what they wanted reviewed.
It's amazing to me how much coaches don't know the rules they are arguing so lividly
In situations like this, especially near the end of the game, it's less about actually being correct and more about sticking up for your players to raise morale.
“Nobody pays attention to you james!” A theme that must be consistent in the life of James the MLB umpire.
“James, god damnit you absolutely fucked this up!” 😂😂
Every teenager named James has heard that speech after f-cking up dad’s car.
"Come on, James. You're better than that shit!"
Love sitting close down the third baseline, you hear some funny shit
This is one of the few missed calls where i dont really blame the ump
For real though, even in the replay I dont really care
Same, but a quick note to add on to why Tito was so mad, the same up called a blatantly fair ball as foul the game before. Honestly it's mostly MLB's fault for all these missed calls since they won't just let these calls get reviewed.
@@jason_shepherd reviews slow down the game and destroy what makes baseball beautiful. Now umps should be judged after every game and given a report card in a ways and be held accountable for their calls especially on the strike zone and knowledge of the rules.
@@texasPITBULL54 it adds like 3 minutes max. For a 180+ minute game that's nothing
@@texasPITBULL54 this play slowed down the game anyways...
"James, god damn it, you absolutely fucked this up!!" LMAO why did he look so disappointed saying that
6:14 I appreciate Jimmy immersing us in the experience by dubbing that slap over, really made me feel like I was there
Francona not saying “horseshit” is probably the most unexpected part of that reaction honestly
are you high? "horseshit" is a requirement to be in any manager's vocabulary
"Hair looking great, and I don't mean that". Like damn Jimmy, you could have at least made it a second sentence and given the guy a little hope.
That's Jimmy's cousin
@@rocsti5402 really? Because that would make it so much better
But like how was the ump supposed to make it more clear lol
Excellent explanation of the rule. So many people who explain rules make mistakes, but I can always count on you to explain it right. And your humor makes these things so dang addicting.
8 minute breakdown? Let me get the popcorn
I was snacking on cheese popcorn as his video came up. I'll smash a handful for you.
@@michaelpipkin9942 smash that popcorn
@@user-ws1tg7jm1j don't forget to ring the bell
I'm sad by the lack of "Let's go" in this breakdown
Brief one at 6:37.
@@Wired4Life2 I'm pretty sure the starting pitcher at 6:15 says one too.
I think you are both right. Like Jomboy says, the let's go's are rampant
don't know where they going... still waiting for a VAMOS VAMOS!
I'm sad at the lack of "horseshit" lol
How about this: If you’re a professional ballplayer, and there’s any question, don’t come off the bag. (Of course, he didn’t leave the bag for any reason except momentum.)
Absolutely 💯 correct. Correct call. Hands down.
Yeah, didn't seem like the tag moved him off but more the other runner pushing him off from momentum. Still makes no sense why they were both trying to be on the same bag though. Weird.
@@cassiehale7869 The tag definitely moved him off. Watch the replay. He was planted on the bag before the tag... Doesn't even look like there was contact between the two runners. What momentum??? Literally the catcher pushing him off...
Momentum from the catchers mitt, yeah. But rule 6.01a1 gives him 3rd. If you watch frame by frame he is planted on the bag just before the tag. Tag definitely pushed him off the bag
@@rileyesmay,
You are an idiot. It is clear as day there is contact... the slow mo shows that they are literally moving in unison... the other runner is pushing against his head... see how his body shoves his head towards the ground. And you don't seem to understand how the laws of physics works... the glove contacted his side... which would not cause him to be shoved backwards... and the contact clearly had no sufficient muscle behind it to just shove him off the base anyway.
How is no one talking about that legendary snag off the bounce by that fan on the walkoff?? That was clean af!!!
Sad thing was that that was a reviewable play… all that had to happen was to ask to review it and the call would have been made right.
Cut to me in the stands with my hands making headphone signs.
IIRC they were talking about how it wasn't reviewable on the broadcast...
@@jason_shepherd Why?
Yeah but where's the fun in that??
@@pingu8290 ask the MLB
6:15 "Hairs looking great, and I don't mean that." Jomboy giveth, and Jomboy Taketh away.
#23 broke the cardinal rule: never give the ump a chance to screw you. Stay on the base until after the play is completely over, and time is called.
the tag pushed him off though. Rule 6.01a1 gives him 3rd after the play. Runner was just trying to stand up and the umpire called him out. He is entitled to the base smh
@@rileyesmay The tag didn’t push him off unless he is super weak, also you can’t stand up off the bag and not expect to get tagged unless the play is dead which it is not
Nothing better then when a coach that has been thrown out immediately throws out the ump. Chef’s kiss.
I knew this was coming
Padres reliever grand slam breakdown would be amazing
It’s only a question of when 😂
“Hair lookin great! And I don’t mean that.”
LOL
This is definitely one of your best yet. Awesome, hysterical, spot on
You know you’re a ⚾️ nerd when ur fav breakdowns are the rules explanations/is communicating
Check out close call sports
A rare time I’m on the side of the umps. Tough play to call
Thanks for the AMA today, Jomboy!
Your breakdowns are epic. MLB needs immediate reviews for questionable plays and calls and I nominate Jomboy for it.
I guess I don't get Tito's argument. Like yeah, the ump might not have been super clear on who was safe and out, but it's on the players to trust their own judgment and stay on the base until they know they're out
Tito is fired up and defending his players. He does it less than others, but a manager that doesn't get tossed once in a while isn't doing his job.
How much clearer can it possibly be? He pointed at the guy who was out, you can’t expect him to use names or anything clearer.
@@sethclerget oh i know that. You gotta stick up for your players and get them fired up. I'm just saying that the argument in and of itself is just weak
It's absolutely the lead runners fault. You fucked up getting in a run down and then let go of the base before anything was clear. Had he just stayed on it he would be safe. The ump did the best with what they saw.
@@LudaChez Daniel Jones is a terrible player that can't hit or run and got called up due to injuries. The entire play, getting in the rundown, telling Cesar to come to third, to getting off the bag is all his fault. He is probably gonna be sent down soon
I feel like this should be an Oprah meme. "You're out! You're out! You're ALL out!"
Couldn't wait for this breakdown!!
LETS GOOOO!! Been waiting for some Jomboy!!!
I didn’t know the Pirates got blue jerseys!
They switched to their tears colored jerseys lol
Thats awsome
Nah this happened at third base. The Pirates enemy is first base
Yea..
@@aherrodlhs im sorry dude I like the cardinals and they suck so I feel you
It’s amazing that so many teams have no idea how to run the bases anymore.
Indians are the youngest team in baseball and even more so with all the recent injuries. It’s not an excuse for not knowing the rules, but they had a miscommunication of who should be taking off. You can’t read someone’s mind, you learn what to do by practice with said teammates.
Cesar probably didn't know that johnson was coming back to third, and couldn't go anywhere once he was there. Johnson is a very young player, and just made a rookie mistake. He shouldn't have gone in the first place
Was gonna request this after the ASG. I'm impressed you got it together this quickly with everything else you have going on!
Finally all the breakdowns that ive watched have hepled me for something, I underdtanded everything perfectly
“Classic sitcom miscommunication” 😂😂
9 years and this is the angriest I've ever seen Tito
Which is kind of crazy because the ump did a pretty good job all things considered.
Right?! He really got fired up! Never seen him ejected while at the park.
Too bad he was completely clueless
Everyone saying this should really just look back to any 2011 game he managed in Boston lol. The season of TF rage.
@@MongoLikeBeer How long ago was 2011 there, guy?
The narrative is that he's cooled off in his senior years here in Cleveland.
I’m from Cleveland and was hoping you’d cover this one. Thanks! Great job.
Hands down some of the best lip reading i have ever seen really amazing work.
"NOBODY FUCKING PAYS ATTENTION TO *YOU* JAMES" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just realized that my favorite breakdowns are the lip reading/voice over ones. Every time I see these players/coaches, I imagine them with Jomboys voice…..”I’m like that!”💪🏾
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
@@xploration1437 “That’s Horsesh!t!”
i was waiting for this. we were all waiting for this.
I’ve been watching your videos for a while, I’m Cleveland born Indians fan, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do a tribe breakdown until now. I have to say, the wait was so worth it.
When are guys going to come out and say "Jomboy showed I was wrong, I'm sorry"
Can you break down the Camarena grand slam? I know we’ve all seen it a thousand times already. Just some great positive vibes. I dunno, hope to see it x
way to go jomboy this was great! lip reading on point my friend! keep up the great work!
What do u mean Tito is wrong? That's literally exactly what Tito said he thought happened....
There was no horseshitting this breakdown. My disappointment is immeasurable.
Hey just wanna let you know I appreciate your videos. Hope you have a good time making them!
Wow what a great breakdown of the rule and how the confusion came to be. Thanks!! Really don’t watch any baseball but I love watching these breakdowns!
“Hair looking great (and I don’t mean that)” 😂😂
Lip reading skills 100 🤯
Damn, never knew that rule. Thanks
Great breakdown, great lip reading job for an extended convo
Man, you're mouth narration is just amazing! Even brings in the emotions! LOL
He should make one in that Padres game a few days ago
This is absolutely my favorite thing about not wearing masks.
I have watched most of Jomboy’s videos and have loved many of them, but this is the best one I’ve ever seen. Swear
Great job explaining this one! I was confused for sure, but you’ve made this make sense.
"Hair looking great... And I DON'T mean that" haha 😂 😂
I was actually at this game sitting in the deck above third base. It was something I had never seen before and I remember my family searched up the rules. However, we did not get the detailed video and explanation that you provided. We figured Herandez was out because he was the trailing runner. We never saw a replay of the leading runner getting tagged and the trailing one not. There truly was an air of confusion on what exactly happened. In the end, both were still called out and of course, we were all upset and then cheered on Tito after he gives a verbal beatdown to the ump once getting ejected. Luckily it didn't matter though with that walk-off. All in all, I'd say it was one of the best games I've been to. It was dollar dog night and we got to watch the fireworks afterward.
By far one of the funnies jomboy videos I’ve watched lmaooo pure comedy and great lip reading😂😂
Hahahah I just love the lip Reading and everything about this 😅🤣🤣🤣🔥🌟
Jimmy please do a breakdown on the rookie pitcher from triple A hitting a grandslam at his first at bat. Padres v. Nationals
no
-nats fan in pain
I want to know why the umpire stayed in the game. He was clearly tossed. That has to be a fine.
"Hair looking great and I don't mean that" 🤣😂
love your breakdowns youre the best bro.
As aformer umpire it always amuses me when players screw up and create chaos and then proceed to blame the umpire.
That was hard to watch
'Nobody fuckin pays attention to you James" has to be one of my favorite lines to an ump
This is probably my favorite channel on TH-cam right now.
“Hair lookin great and I don’t mean that” 😂
I think Francona wins the award for most swear words by a manager without "horse s***"
Jomboy you are the man! great breakdown! learned, laughed, 10/10 would watch again! lol
Great work jomboy. This is quality content. Thanks bro, only you could do this 😁
I think The umpire got it right from his perspective because he had an entire body blocking his view of that first Tag And he’s so calm trying to explain it to the coach and the coach escalates for no reason absolutely tomato
This is on Cleveland. Can't blame the ump on this one -- he called the right runner out -- then saw the guy who was on third take his hand off the base. Yes, he got it wrong -- but understandably. And only because the guy on third messed up by taking his hand off the bag.
Absolutely correct, both runners should have maintained contact with the bag until the play was called dead and the umpire explicitly told them which one was out.
yup. the trailing runner is 100% safe. the lead on runner was safe, but then took his hand of the bag (ump didnt see it) . they both occupy(he thinks) so the call is (both out.) in reality, the trailing runner NEVER left the bag , NOR did the base runners do anything illegal. the ref called the second guy out due to illegal base running. which is reviewable and wrong!
@@user-ll5eo2ip3z you didn't watch the video, did you?
@@user-ll5eo2ip3z Trail runner is out. Catcher tags 3rd base runner but is in contact with bag. After catcher takes glove off of him to tag the runner from 2nd that is when he takes his hand off the base. So the lead runner is still entitled to 3rd and the runner from 2nd is out.
@@matthewmaning4859 okay buddy but at 2:45 & 2:52 jomboy literately says "the trailing runner is safe"
situations like this make for the best breakdowns
This may be the best video I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen every one of your videos lol.
"He got off the bag cuz you called him out."
Maybe have your players touch the bag at all times?
Take the bag with them.
Rule 6.01a1 states the runner gets the bag they were pushed off of. The fielder obviously pushed him off with the tag if you look close enough. The runner gets 3rd and the runner from 2nd is out. The runner DID leave the area because the umpire called him out on a second tag when he was standing up after being pushed off the bag. He has every right to be pissed at the umpire. The home plate umpire should be giving the 3rd base guy help on the play and the runner goes back to 3rd...
@@rileyesmay How right you'd be if the lead runner was pushed off, he wasn't, stop liking your own comment.
@@Ng1Brad Watch it slowly. He is planted before the tag. The tag 100% pushed him off. How else does he just randomly get pushed a foot off the bag?
@@rileyesmay he didn’t pushed him. Unless number 23 is made out of paper there’s no way in hell Salvador touched him hard enough to throw him off the base like that. It was the momentum of him sliding back he lost grip of the bag. He didn’t get pushed off.
I love james Hoye, he is a good buddy of mine and my mentor. He’s the one that got me to want to got to the MLB for umpiring.
Learn so much from your channel thanks dude
i reached out before this play was even over hoping you'd break it down, good shit
You missed Bobby Bradley dropping the f bomb in his interview
i can only hear "james, goddammit, you really fucked this up!" in jackie gleason's voice after all that sitcom talk.
Jomboy your Batman-like lip reading is always one of the highlights of my day 😂😂🙏🙏🙏